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Speaker 1: Welcome to us Up There podcast.

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Speaker 2: I am your active and attractive host Big Loan for

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Speaker 2: another episode of the fastest growing, the most littus podcasts

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Speaker 2: in the nation, in the world. I want to thank

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Speaker 2: everybody that's tapped in. It's a pleasure that I've been

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Speaker 2: able to provide some sort of assistance in your life,

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Speaker 2: whether that been entertainment or information. And you've invited me

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Speaker 2: into your households or into your cause, into your ears,

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Speaker 2: into your minds and hearts. And it's a long journey, right,

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Speaker 2: It's a lot to go into this, and I'm appreciative

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Speaker 2: and I'm proud about what we are. I want to

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Speaker 2: be clear to the youngsters following me, man, because every

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Speaker 2: day not even youngsters, grown men, grown women, grown people

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Speaker 2: from all walks of life, following the journey finding strength,

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Speaker 2: finding understanding, searching for information, looking to evolve.

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Speaker 1: People see that on this side.

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Speaker 2: And over the last couple of days, I've been presented

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Speaker 2: with information about a lot of people scamming this game.

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Speaker 1: And you would be amazed at some of the names.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not gonna say anything right now because I

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Speaker 2: got to do my own research, but boy, what was

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Speaker 2: presented to me was devastating, you know, and you know

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Speaker 2: it is for me to mention it this early in

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Speaker 2: the part. I definitely wouldn't mention something like that. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to thank everybody on Patreon. You know,

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Speaker 2: y'all been supporting me for a long time, and the

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Speaker 2: more and more people that come over there, I want

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Speaker 2: to welcome y'all. And for those that are not on Patreon,

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Speaker 2: I want to extend the invitation to come to Patreon,

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Speaker 2: where you receive the video without ads, you received the interviews,

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Speaker 2: you received the podcast every week video. That's the only

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Speaker 2: place you can get the video of what you're listening

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Speaker 2: to right now. So if you enjoy this show and

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Speaker 2: you want to see the clips and the videos and

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Speaker 2: the ins and outs that happen on screen, which we

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Speaker 2: put a lot into the production, you'll be able to

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Speaker 2: enjoy that over there without ass as well as tap

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Speaker 2: in with the gang. I went live over there the

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Speaker 2: other day, did extremely well, very interactive, like people was

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Speaker 2: asking me things. It was a vibe I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna do this so so much more right I'm waiting

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Speaker 2: on this building that I'm about to purchase.

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Speaker 1: That's my next move. And also let me say this.

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Speaker 2: Let me address a few things because I know my

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Speaker 2: look may come off as a hood to people. Just

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Speaker 2: let me y'all know, we got growing to do, We

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Speaker 2: got building to do. Ain't that exciting?

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Speaker 1: That shit is?

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Speaker 2: Like that shit is exciting when I wake up in

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Speaker 2: the morning and I hit the bus is gone, and

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Speaker 2: I hear the children getting ready, and I say, boy,

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Speaker 2: you get to get up today and figure out how

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Speaker 2: to help the world or take this shit to the

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Speaker 2: next level. You don't work yourself in a situation, so

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Speaker 2: now you get to literally draw. And with the same notion,

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Speaker 2: I tell myself long you don't put a lot of

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Speaker 2: plates on your bar. To you, it may look like

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Speaker 2: he gonna try to binge press a lot. And to me,

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long time, so I'm comfortable.

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Speaker 2: But for those of you out there that it's listening

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Speaker 2: to me and within the sound of my voice, I

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Speaker 2: thank you for stopping byy it's up there podcast Today.

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Speaker 1: We're grateful with humbled. We really really.

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Speaker 2: Feel chosen in some weird way because where I come from,

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Speaker 2: this ain't supposed to be possible. I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys in this space they talk, you know, but

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Speaker 2: I really come from this game. I really come from

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Speaker 2: a place where this wasn't supposed to be on the docket.

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Speaker 2: Me being in this situation is nothing but God's grace

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Speaker 2: and the universe allowed me to open my eyes to information.

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Speaker 2: And I was talking about on the Poor Mind Show

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Speaker 2: that I have a certain way that I think right,

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Speaker 2: because when you do grow up in the inner city,

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Speaker 2: the way you think is the only thing that can

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Speaker 2: keep you alive. Imagine being surrounded by allies and threats

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Speaker 2: in real time that are interchangeable, and you got to

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Speaker 2: figure out the dynamics of that every single day. Because

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Speaker 2: in our community, you hear a lot of times that yo,

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Speaker 2: they dude used to hang with him and he was

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Speaker 2: the one that done that, the bro. You see what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, And it be a lot of that as well.

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Speaker 2: So you come up out.

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Speaker 1: Of that, if you make it to where we are,

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Speaker 1: you come up out it there and saying damn, I

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Speaker 1: Aine got lucky. You know.

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Speaker 2: I like to talk to y'all as well about trying

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Speaker 2: to adapt to the space because I have to have

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Speaker 2: some level or an extreme amount of humility in this business,

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Speaker 2: because you know, you have to put yourself in situations

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Speaker 2: to be able to get certain interviews and deal with

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Speaker 2: certain people, and sometimes they come along with asking hey man,

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Speaker 2: like hey can you get on the show? And that

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Speaker 2: right there weird to me because I ain't never had

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Speaker 2: to ask nobody for nothing in my life.

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Speaker 1: But it's necessary at this point.

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Speaker 2: So there's a journey involved in that, and I'm finding

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Speaker 2: struggling that and I'm talking to y'all about it, right,

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Speaker 2: just because I think it makes for good conversation.

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Speaker 1: Some of it may be ego.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I think a lot of it possibly

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Speaker 2: is ego, right, I think a lot of it may

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Speaker 2: be ego driven. But here's the thing on both sides, right,

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Speaker 2: you have people who are receiving that request and thinking

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Speaker 2: that they're doing you in extreme favor by acknowledging the request,

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Speaker 2: right and so and granted in business, they are giving

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Speaker 2: you a boost and you are giving them a platform.

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Speaker 2: There's a marriage there.

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Speaker 1: But if there's a relationship there, I don't understand why

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Speaker 1: it feels funny.

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Speaker 2: I think from us, man, we're dealing with some sum's happening.

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Speaker 2: You know why I've been successful in this game? You

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Speaker 2: know why I've been able to thrive in this game?

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Speaker 2: It is because I built something that was able to

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Speaker 2: survive and thrive without you niggas.

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Speaker 1: Fucking with me, and without me fucking with you niggas.

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Speaker 2: I didn't place myself in a situation where, fucking what

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Speaker 2: you gonna get me the gold championship ring. I placed

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Speaker 2: myself in a situation where we're gonna bring the gold

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Speaker 2: home based on what we do in the gym. And

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Speaker 2: that's a harder fight. But once it's established, everything is grave.

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Speaker 2: They don't tell you that. Once you break those couple layers, man,

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Speaker 2: now everything is sweet and now you own something for

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Speaker 2: the rest of your life. Places your family in a

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Speaker 2: great situation, places you in a great situation if you

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Speaker 2: have information to go with that, and if you had

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Speaker 2: the information to hold on at the beginning. It tells

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Speaker 2: me that you probably would have the information to know

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Speaker 2: what it's worth on the back end. But I was

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Speaker 2: able to build me something that allowed me to go

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Speaker 2: without messing with too many people. I can still right

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Speaker 2: now do podcasting without dealing with rappers. Peers think about that.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole matter of fact, eighty percent of podcast

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Speaker 2: don't revolve around rappers. It might revolve around culture, music, culture,

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Speaker 2: but a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of these guys on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Think about how many people got podcasts just on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: on Apple, Spotify. iHeart all of these different apps, all

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Speaker 2: these different podcasts where they just talk about the music thing.

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Speaker 1: It ain't necessarily what they're able.

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Speaker 2: To get an interview from an artist, So that's a

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Speaker 2: different thing. That's a music commentary podcast, not a podcast

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Speaker 2: with rapper interviews. I'm one of the platforms that do both.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot out there it does both. But if

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Speaker 2: you can't cut the camera on by yourself without somebody

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Speaker 2: a rapper interview based podcast or interview based podcast, which

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Speaker 2: is cool, but I just think it's worth distinguishing when

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Speaker 2: we had these conversations, I want to start the podcast today,

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Speaker 2: Ben were coming in hot today. First, I want to

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Speaker 2: take a look at this fight, in my opinion, one

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Speaker 2: of the funniest things on the Internet. I want to

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Speaker 2: show you something. Pay attention. Let me lay some framework

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Speaker 2: think some people may not know what you're gonna take

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Speaker 2: a look at. Here are two guys who see this

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Speaker 1: See, it's a thing we got in us.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like, you know, I don't know what some

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Speaker 1: They instantly think.

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Speaker 2: He got ah, he got a bowl cut, he got

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Speaker 2: a mullet. I'll whoop his motherfucking ass. I know he

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Speaker 2: ain't right. It's something that happens when we encounter a

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Speaker 2: certain kind of individual that automatically make us think will

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Speaker 2: whoop them. So you see these two individuals push up

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Speaker 2: He come the gang. Now, this is why I knew right,

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Speaker 2: he'll pay attention to the screen. Those of you that's listening,

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Speaker 2: you have to come to Patron dot com. It's up

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Speaker 2: there Parker for the interview. We'll move on from this

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Speaker 2: in a second. I just thought this was extremely hilarious.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at the guy with the red

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Speaker 1: Listen, look at look at his feet. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Niggas ain't having no training, he ain't having no but

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Speaker 1: in his mind, Saaday and Sunday coming up out of him.

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Speaker 1: When I hit him this time, he going down and

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Speaker 1: it's boy over here just trying to hold him off.

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Speaker 1: The white The white guy is aggressively on the black

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Speaker 1: dude for starting to fight. But he come red short.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at it. That's all he gave him. He

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Speaker 1: cocked back that hard and gave him that little ship man.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, let's pilitic. Oh no, you see that

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Speaker 1: hold up? Run that back. Oh he almost knocked him out.

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Speaker 1: I didn't catch that. He almost knocked him out, man,

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Speaker 2: Let's see that again. He almost knocked a that. Hey

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Speaker 2: Then I'm finna show you that I'm gonna knock him die.

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Speaker 2: He slid out the picture when he come about this

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Speaker 2: shirt because I want people to know what coming out.

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Speaker 1: This shirt indicates.

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Speaker 2: Right when you see the white man come out of

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Speaker 1: See it supposed to be intimidating.

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Speaker 2: When I come out my shirt, show you I got

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Speaker 2: a little muscle, a little figure. You know, I'm working

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Speaker 2: with a little something. You show up to be knocked

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Speaker 2: When a nigga come out the shirt, that's the effect

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Speaker 2: they trying to get, like, oh you gonna especially if

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Speaker 2: you do it this way right here. A nigga come

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Speaker 2: out of the shirt like this right here. He done

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Speaker 2: practice that, that's his thing. Nigga, I know he ain't

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Speaker 2: he gonna come out he got a little muscle shirt

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Speaker 2: or something on. What the yeah, he trying to really

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Speaker 2: he got something. But the white boy, he ain't bluffing.

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Speaker 2: So what come natural?

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Speaker 1: And in our.

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Speaker 2: Culture that you know, all these little tips and taps,

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Speaker 2: That will go there go. Now, he's just trying to survive.

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Speaker 2: You done damned and knock my gal. I don't got

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Speaker 2: while you see me by myself, Man, I operate by myself, Cad. No,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's like, so I stay away from everything. I'm going

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Speaker 2: self defense mode. I don't care where we at in

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Speaker 2: I ain't playing with niggas. But when you gotta step back,

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Speaker 2: he not already he done crack this shit off. Man rushing,

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Speaker 2: but they playing, And I want the youngsters to pay attention.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of bluffing going on. It's costing

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of people. They life pay attention. Yo,

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Speaker 2: I thought that was funny, you know, to me that

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Speaker 2: was interested in looking at not even because all let

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Speaker 2: I said this, because really it was a funny fight.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna start every week bringing something from

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start being.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start trying to incorporate a few things to

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Speaker 2: So I hope y'all stay down with us, because we're

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Speaker 2: going all the way. I want to talk about this though,

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Speaker 2: the Baby. The Baby went on the shop with Lebron

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Speaker 1: When it was going through. I said, it's probably not registered.

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Speaker 2: You probably can't enjoy what's happening because there's so much happening.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let me switch these motherfuckers. I'm gonna be switching

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Speaker 3: these based on you know, the questions. This is the

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Speaker 3: color I'm gonna put the leg up.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 3: So now I sug like all jokesaph side like I had,

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Speaker 3: I had already ink the dealing with in the scope.

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Speaker 3: So once you ink the dealing, you know the check

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Speaker 3: is not coming. It's not coming yet. This corporate world.

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Speaker 3: This when I, you know, found this out. I found

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Speaker 3: So it took about thirty days or whatever a thought

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Speaker 3: ink the dealing. I started working on. The first project

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Speaker 3: ended up being Baby on Baby, where I got the

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Speaker 3: l a hat on the polls they made me do

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Speaker 3: for a year straight twenty nineteen. Everywhere I go to

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Speaker 4: But yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I got a text message either from a lawyer

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Speaker 3: be in the account, the check should have cleared. I

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Speaker 3: a Bank of America a team I had a Bank

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Speaker 1: At the time.

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Speaker 3: I tell him pull over. I go in and I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, you know, let you print it

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Speaker 1: I printed it.

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Speaker 3: I printed it, right, I see the balance on there,

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Speaker 3: but I printed. I go hot back in the truck

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Speaker 3: kind of like I want to go to the studio.

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Speaker 3: We go, I shine my phone light on the phone

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Speaker 3: and I'll see them, you know. And the initiat there

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Speaker 3: was only six figures, like I ended up. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is your advance exactly I ended up maybe I

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Speaker 3: don't know, maybe four months after I was getting that

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Speaker 3: have it have it work out that way. But I

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Speaker 1: So we go in.

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Speaker 3: I have my guy Jetson, who produced the song Shout.

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Speaker 3: He met us at the studio, and this is the

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Speaker 3: you know, the words of the hook of the song

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Speaker 3: is uh, I just signed a deal. Amone was Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was up now yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a couple of important conversations to behaved

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Speaker 2: getting six figures A show again, register How fast that moves? Register?

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Speaker 2: How much in four months? Do you really remember?

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Speaker 5: That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: I just popped my ship for two minutes and haveing

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Speaker 3: many seconds that song is I literally was just you

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Speaker 3: know when I say, don't maybe go hit the bank

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Speaker 3: and check it, uh and uh take out a hundred

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Speaker 3: to show you my pockets was different the day before.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't have went to the bank out the second

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Speaker 3: I could talk to this shit, I talked, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? But when I look at you know what,

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Speaker 3: I was blessed enough to be able to accomplish within

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Speaker 3: Like absolutely like these things as an artist, as a rapper,

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Speaker 3: like you know this, people will give their give their

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Speaker 3: hands this all American status board cover of double xxl Essen.

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Speaker 3: Now I did all that shit Jimmy fallon two three times,

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Speaker 3: like I didn't even I wasn't even familiar with how

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Speaker 1: New to you to even appreciate the magnitude of it.

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Speaker 6: Was anybody going like, dog, you're doing sn L.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly I was getting ready to say. So this

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Speaker 3: But it's a director of a lot of my videos.

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Speaker 3: James Rico from The Real Ghost. He's like, Bro, this

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Speaker 3: Like he like the only rapper that is. I don't

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Speaker 3: even think a rapper has ever even been on this

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Speaker 3: and there like not to mention like a rapper, like

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Speaker 7: He said, Kanye Snoop Snoop and Kanye Snooper had.

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Speaker 6: The biggest moment I ever remember snoopball Tommy, He'll figure I

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Speaker 6: was a kid.

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Speaker 1: I remember as a.

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Speaker 6: Kid, and but not not like you were in year one.

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Speaker 6: You were no rapper has hit SNL, like without five

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Speaker 6: six albums.

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Speaker 3: This is my fa this is my rookie year in

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Speaker 2: Hey, he's he did smoke it. Think about the baby

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Speaker 2: brun he was smoking it. He was on fire. Him

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Speaker 2: and Meg were making his he he being on He

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Speaker 2: had songs were dual leaper songs over here going platinum

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Speaker 2: no telling how much money he generated. He probably he

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Speaker 2: probably still in the green over there. I know he's

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Speaker 2: still in the green even though his last couple of

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00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: projects been doing what he's doing. He probably still in

437
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: the green because he made so much money in that

438
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: overhead with low Listen to what they gave him six

439
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: figures and then four months later he getting six figures.

440
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Showed that mean they investment looking good. But here's the thing,

441
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: you gotta believe in people. I want to send a

442
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: shout out to Arnold Taylor for taking him to ender score.

443
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: Shout out the real.

444
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Speaker 2: Ghost too, Shout out to Pete QC for taking these

445
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: dudes to these labels and operating as their own label

446
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: and investing in these young dudes dreams, because it takes

447
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: a lot for somebody to see a vision of yours,

448
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: like y'all don't see diamonds in the dirt like these

449
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: black men. It's something about the black men and see

450
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: these rappers before they able to be.

451
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: What the world appreciates.

452
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: They see that when it's still in the pot, when

453
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: it's still in the oven, they able to see that.

454
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: And I want to send a shout out to black

455
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Speaker 2: men for elevating other black men, whether that be rapper, athlete, entrepreneur,

456
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: financial advisor, construction work or bus driveling. We're gonna get

457
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Speaker 2: into Edbuny K Williams in just a second, but I

458
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Speaker 2: want to send a shout out to everybody out there

459
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Speaker 2: that provides service of any kind of any one. You

460
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Speaker 2: all are appreciated, But it take a special kind of

461
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: person to see somebody vision when it's a caterpillar and

462
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: watch it turn to a butterfly.

463
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Speaker 1: Pay attention.

464
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Speaker 3: There's an album in this project that dropp There wasn't

465
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Speaker 3: even an album. Then I dropped the follow up project, Kirk,

466
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean later on now, yeah, that

467
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Speaker 3: was dedicated to my father. I think I didn't. I

468
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: wasn't able to you know, appreciate you know, like my

469
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Speaker 3: accomplishments and my blessings early on, just because the amount

470
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: of like real life ship I was going through it

471
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Speaker 3: at the same time.

472
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Speaker 6: As an actor, is it hard to not take what

473
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Speaker 6: you're dealing with personally to work to the set like

474
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Speaker 6: you woulda because you're playing a character, right, but just

475
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 6: you're a human who's.

476
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 5: Going through shiit is.

477
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 6: It sometimes hard to separate.

478
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: The too damn possible for me. But that's just my process.

479
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Speaker 8: Like I I whatever's happening in my life, if it

480
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 8: could service today, channel it, I bring it in.

481
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Speaker 5: If you could.

482
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Speaker 6: If you could go back, by the way, when you

483
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 6: had that sparring match with Cancel Culture Culture, at the beginning,

484
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Speaker 6: you had a certain.

485
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Speaker 1: Vigor more than sparring was a heavyweight.

486
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Speaker 8: Man.

487
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Speaker 3: I got knocked the fuck out.

488
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Speaker 6: And then I noticed you did kind of you chilled

489
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Speaker 6: and away. If you could go back now, would you

490
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Speaker 6: do the beginning of it? Would you deal with it differently?

491
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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely. That's something I came like out out my

492
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Speaker 3: own mouth and said, you know what I mean, like

493
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: as of late, not even as of late, like you know,

494
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Speaker 3: like I would have maybe handled it the way here

495
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: I would apologize, but hey, I didn't mean to appolo

496
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Speaker 3: like I'm this type of person like I'm gonna fight

497
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Speaker 3: to the thing nail, like if I you know what

498
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean about like my character and me and my intentions.

499
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: I'm that's something I'll never let like, I'm not gonna

500
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Speaker 3: let you you know what I mean, make me I'm

501
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: not a bad personal play. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, Like,

502
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: my that's something I can't like I'm unfaltering on that.

503
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: Like you know, like I say, like, you almost gotta

504
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: make it your business to not like to not let

505
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: that shit, you know, get to you, cause once it

506
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: gets to you, it's almost like you know, it's a

507
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: NonStop game of figuring this out. That's what we have

508
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: to do anyway. It's to market ourselves to you know

509
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: what I mean, to make ourselves worth something. And you know,

510
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: if you look back on like I was the most

511
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Speaker 3: you know, and I hope this shit don't something I

512
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 3: too my own horn at the time. I'm looking at

513
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 3: it like this, But I was like the most marketable

514
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: artists in the world. Like when that shit happened, bro,

515
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: I had my own meal with Burger King, like like

516
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Speaker 3: a lot of the things like I say, like my

517
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Speaker 3: peers like doing now with.

518
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Speaker 2: Child And here's the thing, when you hear him mention

519
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: that I think it's extremely important for us to identify

520
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: something maybe that lend it to some arrogance. I probably

521
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: would have asked him that, like since shooting, because you

522
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: heard him say, I knew I was very marketable, right,

523
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: I had the burger king thing, gonna had all that going.

524
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: Man, that ain't no way they gonna do me like it.

525
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: I got the kids, I'm the.

526
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Sugar nigga with the big with the big animated guy

527
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: on stage, whemen, got everybody dance, and they ain't gonna

528
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: do me like that. Oh y'all gonna try to play

529
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: me like that. Y'all can't box me in like that.

530
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: And he's saying now that, oh, I didn't know how

531
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: powerful they were. I didn't know how not even powerful,

532
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: because they're not really powerful, but they're relentless. It's like

533
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: a fly fucking with a lion. It's like the lion

534
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: is way more powerful, but he can't get to the

535
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: little more. He's slacking it. He's just tedious, he's resilient.

536
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: He keeps flying in that same little spot.

537
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: And that's what these industry people, once you get on

538
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: their bad side, or the fans.

539
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: It ain't even the fans.

540
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: What it is is the people online are influencing things.

541
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Speaker 1: But here's the trick.

542
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: The people in the industry getting decide to not bite

543
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: into that. But if they don't like you along with

544
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: some of those narratives that's been created, they'll bite into

545
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: the narrative and amplify the narrative and then their voice

546
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: starts to get to other people. But I just think

547
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: it's interesting that he now looks at in that identifies

548
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: that man, I was so marketable there because his attitude

549
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: was different. Then it was like, man, nigga, I ain't

550
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: say it. I said what I said.

551
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: They know what I mean.

552
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: It was more like that, But I don't think I

553
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: think he was just caughting that tornado. Because they'll kiss

554
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: your feet in a way when you're winning. That'll make

555
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: them unrecognizable when you lose. They'll treat you a certain

556
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: way when you win. In my nigga, that associated what

557
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: we come from with love and family. It's business for them.

558
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: The minute you start losing, man, they'll be unrecognizable.

559
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Hey me, it's me, Shelley. It's me, Shelley. It's me,

560
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: it's me.

561
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm you know, they ain't answering the text, they ain't

562
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: answering the call. That's that motherfucker they used to tie

563
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: your shoe that motherfucker there used to wipe the sweat

564
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: off you when you wasn't even paying attention. But she

565
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: was doing that to be valuable in a business sense.

566
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: There ain't no real love in that. Sometimes we're confused

567
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: that because where we come from. But I wondered that ego, Linda,

568
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: that I would say, yeah, pay attention, let's look at

569
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: a little more.

570
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Love to see it, like I love to see the

571
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: shit like these are like things that like I was blessed,

572
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: unfortunate enough to be able to like accomplish, like my

573
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: first years of mainstream, like I had a meal at

574
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: Burger King and I shot the commercial. I still got

575
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, like I had so much going on, bro,

576
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Like you have no idea, Like I had so much

577
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: going on, you know what I'm saying. But it's you know,

578
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like if you become

579
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: wrapped up in the negative shit. We're so conditioned to

580
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: rolling with the punches with social media, whatever it is,

581
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: whatever room we come into, Okay, we know we gotta

582
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: adapt whatever space that we're in. We know we got

583
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: to adapt, whatever business it is, whatever game we're playing,

584
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: we gotta adapt, you know. And that's who's going to

585
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: excel like that's just how the world is and.

586
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Speaker 8: That's the problem.

587
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 9: No, they don't.

588
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Speaker 8: I was I was having a conversation with someone who's

589
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 8: going through it online right now, Right right now, I'm

590
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 8: definitely not gonna tell you and were what.

591
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: They're going through the online it's kind of public.

592
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 8: But we're talking about the concept of repercussions, right and

593
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 8: the people get no repercussions for what they do online.

594
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 8: You know, they could still go to the job, they

595
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 8: could still go home to the families. Nothing happens if

596
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 8: I say one one thing, one thing correct my life.

597
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: Hey be careful, you know.

598
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 8: And I've sat down in rooms of people who are

599
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 8: doing great things and I've said publicly to them, I'm like, hey, yo,

600
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 8: should should all of us just come off line and disappear?

601
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen to the internet if that happens, what

602
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: are these people are going to talk about?

603
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 8: If I'm gone, if all of us are gone, no Instagram, nothing,

604
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 8: the only time you see me is in this chair,

605
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 8: or if a caught me.

606
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen.

607
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Then this had this conversation because we have a partcast,

608
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting what I believe to happen

609
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: at that point. In my opinion, it'll amplify like a

610
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: new paparazzi. I guess that's what I should say. I

611
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: think what will emerge would be a new form of

612
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: the paparazzi. And people are probably making six to seven

613
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: figures by doing that because it now becomes an exclusive

614
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: pick again. Right now becomes an exclusive sighting again depending

615
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: on who it is. So that's my opinion on that.

616
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: Let's look at a little more.

617
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 8: You know, our existence is some people's livelihood.

618
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this. For those of you

619
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Speaker 1: who are unaware.

620
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: Rollo has been on the internet going viral over the

621
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: last couple of days in regards to his case. He's

622
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: been in jail. I think he will sendenced to ninety

623
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: six months. He was the rapper that was found with

624
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: a jet full of what they say was marijuana, so

625
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: he has a big case.

626
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Now.

627
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: He's a Muslim, He's someone that people revere as one

628
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: of the real ones, dog fool like I'm Raloh. He's

629
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: tied in with a bunch of Atlanta rappers and he's

630
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: been going viral because people has now put the snitch

631
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: jacket on his brother. Now, I don't got no favorites.

632
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and start there. I want to let

633
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: that breathe for a second because I want y'all to

634
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: know that I don't never take a side in regards

635
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: to these things. My main goal is to let the

636
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: kids know, right and also the other niggas that out

637
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: there in the street, to let individuals know what they

638
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: up against. A lot of y'all GOE signed up for

639
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: a job that you know you can't handle. You know

640
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: you ain't got the credentials. You know you ain't got

641
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: the criteria for this job that you're willing to take

642
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: because you need to pay. So your question would be,

643
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: how did his information get to the internet.

644
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Now, let me kind of summarize it.

645
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: One of Ralow's former associates got on the phone.

646
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: Call with Rauloh.

647
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: This phone call led to Raloh telling this brother that, hey,

648
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: you know, I might have did some things that was

649
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: uncalled for that didn't work. I might have tried some things.

650
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: He said some things on the conversation will take a

651
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: listen to. But the guy on the phone call says, Yo,

652
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: we don't cooperate under any circumstances. You dig what I'm saying,

653
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: and so now you have a situation where Rolloh is

654
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: behind balls trying to fight for his public image. If

655
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: you raad it, you read it, but if you didn't rat,

656
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: that's a fucked up place to be put in. Let's

657
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: look at what Rollo's form associate said and we'll go

658
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: from there.

659
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 10: Rest this shit on my page.

660
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 11: Y'all gonna believe who y'all wanna believe, or y'all gonna

661
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 11: believe what y'all wanna believe. Y'all gonna eat dick regardless,

662
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 11: and you know what I'm saying, and I'm alright with that.

663
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: It's cool.

664
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 11: But what I'm not gonna do is how motherfucker's questioning

665
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 11: my character in my integrity like I'm just a lying

666
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 11: ass nigga or even a hating ass nigga, because everybody

667
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 11: that know me, no, I don't supported this nigga to

668
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 11: the fullest damn there a decade. Now, you dig know

669
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 11: what I'm saying, So that what we ain't gonna do.

670
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 11: I ain't gonna let y'll play with my top like that.

671
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 11: I'm gonna let y'all hear it from the horse's mouth.

672
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 11: What he told, why he told and what his reasons

673
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 11: behind it was, and you know whatever, whatever he might say. Now,

674
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 11: all this this shit about this person in the shadows

675
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 11: pulling strings for him.

676
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 10: All this shit new information to me.

677
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 11: I ain't find none of this shit out until yesterday

678
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 11: when uh or or was it the day before yesterday

679
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 11: when we had when we when we talked on the phone.

680
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 11: That was the first time I talked to him in.

681
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 10: About five six months.

682
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 11: Cause I cut him off as soon as I read

683
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 11: the paperwork, as soon as I seen it with my

684
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 11: own eyes, I cut him off.

685
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 10: I ain't say shit.

686
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 11: I quietly removed every post that got to do with

687
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 11: him off my page. I changed my name from Famerica

688
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 11: John Doe to get though, and removed anything any existence

689
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 11: of this nigga.

690
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 10: I didn't say shit to nobody.

691
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 11: I didn't pull up on nobody and got damn spray

692
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 11: this nigga name, none of that. Certain people asked me

693
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 11: about him, I would say, oh, yeah, he doing good.

694
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 11: If other people who I know in the mix who

695
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 11: deserve to know what's going on, asked me about him,

696
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 11: I would say, hey, man, home ain't right. Them, knowing

697
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 11: me and knowing my character, they took it at face value.

698
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 11: I never had to show nobody shit, even though I

699
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 11: know the rules, I didn't have the paperwork at the

700
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 11: time I got the paperwork during rama done. I wasn't

701
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 11: gonna disturb the brothers fast, so I wasn't gonna put

702
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 11: it out there.

703
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 10: And even then I didn't put that paperwork out there.

704
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 11: What happened was somebody said free rollo in my comments,

705
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 11: and I simply replied, no, they can keep the rats.

706
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 11: The blog screenshoted it, posted it. It went viral. Now

707
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 11: you got all kind of strangers and dick eaters in

708
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 11: my comings talking about where the paperwork?

709
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 10: Where the paperwork? I rolled around the city for two

710
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 10: days showing anybody who wanted to see the.

711
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 11: Paperwork the paperwork. You did what I'm saying. I rolled

712
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 11: around showing niggas. I still didn't post this nigga shit

713
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 11: on the internet. You did what I'm saying. I pushed

714
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 11: up on people, a lot of people y'all know, real

715
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 11: well known people, real megastar rappers. I pushed up on

716
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 11: these niggas personally, the ones who are street niggas, who

717
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 11: are who fucked with Shouty.

718
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 10: I pushed up on them personally and pulled their coat.

719
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 11: You did what I'm saying, not no sideline shit, not

720
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 11: no stray bullets. I pushed up on them in person,

721
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 11: showed them what I had, and it was on them

722
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 11: whatever they decided to do after that. You did what

723
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 11: I'm saying. But you can't say a nigga didn't tell you.

724
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 11: I pushed up on several people personally. I never blasted

725
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 11: him publicly. That's what y'all glorified. Y'all glorify this shit.

726
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 11: Y'all vialified real niggas, and y'all glorified suckers who portray

727
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 11: to be real niggas. But anyway, man, piece of blessings all,

728
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 11: I'm gonna let I'm gonna let shout it do the talking.

729
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 12: I still love you.

730
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 5: How about uh, don't do the law? You know I

731
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: can't complain? Might her still?

732
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 10: Might he still DENI still keeping it solid.

733
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 5: You know, I like that you were supposed to whatever?

734
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 5: Do that?

735
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 12: Hey, So if I was to take accept of some

736
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 12: responsibility for the accusations.

737
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 11: The ah h, hold on, let let me stop you

738
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 11: right there. It ain't it ain't an accusation. I it's

739
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 11: it's it's it's in black and white brother, I'm i'm

740
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 11: I'm reading your lawyer pleading on your behalf, trying to

741
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 11: get this record sealed because of this information that you gave.

742
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: It's you saying that you never said that.

743
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 11: You didn't do it, but you had me believing for

744
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 11: five years that you kept it solid. Dog and and

745
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 11: and in the paperwork, it's say that in two months

746
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 11: y'all y'all got locked up in April, in June June

747
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 11: sixth you gave a prophet and you gave up information.

748
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 11: You gave 'em folk the code to your phone and

749
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 11: let them review it in your presence.

750
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: That what the paperwork say, ain't I.

751
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 12: Ain't opposed to that say belong to him. The document

752
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 12: that you're seeing gives from a prosecutionist conduct.

753
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 11: But okay, But so if you saying that you gave

754
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 11: them just the phone information because you knew nothing that

755
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 11: was in the phone, what about this shit on page twelve,

756
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 11: line twelve thirteen, where it's say he is cooperating against

757
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 11: heroin metha fetamine, he knows about shootings and the marine.

758
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 11: Where it's say he is cooperating against heroin metha fetamine,

759
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 11: he knows about shootings.

760
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: And the marijuana. That's what this, That's what the transcript say.

761
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not opposition that. I listen, when you

762
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 12: going now, they asked you of the questionsation they started

763
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 12: asking the kidding.

764
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 11: Uh you know the cold though, That's what I'm saying.

765
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 11: You know the cold. You ain't supposed to have had

766
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 11: no meeting with them folks in the first play.

767
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 12: All right, queen, I mean I.

768
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 13: Was uh uh ah a situation that, oh, I.

769
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 12: Guess you gut someum. I just only reason why you

770
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 12: know about this is the prosecution.

771
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: Just comes to him.

772
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 12: All these rap nig pay that money to get out

773
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 12: of here.

774
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 5: But I we ain't the rap niggas though. That that

775
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 5: what I please?

776
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 14: Please, I got caught with this shit on the plane.

777
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: Take what the fuck you thought I was gonna do?

778
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: Take your lip like shit, it's just some week.

779
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 11: Well okay, okay, look listen, I remember when all before

780
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 11: you got locked up.

781
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 5: I used to always tell you, hey, don't do this,

782
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 5: Hey don't do that.

783
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 12: Hey I agree with and.

784
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 11: You used to tell me, ah, it's just some weed.

785
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 11: So if it's just some weed, why.

786
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 5: You ain't just going there cheering up it?

787
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 15: Man?

788
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 5: This shiit say this is what Brian still say.

789
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 11: He said, if it comes out on June sixth, twenty eighteen,

790
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 11: and mister Davis gave information, and it says that's a

791
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 11: lot of information on a lot of people that are

792
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 11: wells out on Junie six eighteen, and mister Davis gave information,

793
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 11: and it says that's a lot of information on a

794
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 11: lot of people that are well known in this community

795
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 11: that would not be bowled well for mister Davis or

796
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 11: his security interest at all. Like who they talking about

797
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 11: though they say well known people in the community, like.

798
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 16: They talk about the people who I had to make

799
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 16: it look juicid, I had to add like these people.

800
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 12: Was always like people how ever.

801
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: Voted.

802
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 11: But I mean you tell you told me, you told

803
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 11: me your logic. You know what I'm saying, behind why

804
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 11: you did what you did. So at the very least

805
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 11: I could respect you, at least coming clean to me.

806
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 11: But my thing is, bruh, you had me in the

807
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 11: blind five years behind this shit like this shit man,

808
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 11: that shit, that shit crazy. I never would have never

809
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 11: would have expected that from you. Man, like at all

810
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 11: you feel me.

811
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 12: I look, I can, I'm a man. I'm gonna tell you,

812
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 12: but I understand. I didn't even think it. I mean,

813
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 12: I didn't even think.

814
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: This ever come up.

815
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 9: Like why'd you say?

816
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: Like why would you be?

817
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 10: Man?

818
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: This this? What this? What?

819
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: This?

820
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: What?

821
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 13: This?

822
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 5: What got me? You had me believing for five years

823
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: that you just.

824
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 11: Kept it solid that you ain't have know that you

825
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 11: didn't cooperate nothing.

826
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

827
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 11: All that's still cooperation. Whether you were working the move

828
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 11: or not, it's still cooperation. But my thing is you

829
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 11: you telling queen, but you running shit across, You running

830
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 11: shit across I heard, but you you ain't even ask

831
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 11: me like no, like I would have told you what

832
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 11: do not do that I would have.

833
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 10: I would have told you regardless of what.

834
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: Whether it would have benefited or whatever.

835
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 11: Man, everybody know what they signed up for when they

836
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 11: in this, when they in this lifestyle.

837
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: Bro a nigga just gotta take their lick.

838
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 10: They gotta eat that.

839
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 5: You feel me. It ain't like y'all niggas was facing

840
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 5: O like send it sight shit.

841
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 12: I'll show you that and they ain't.

842
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 10: Guess what I'm gonna do.

843
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 13: I'm gonna keep the most ice.

844
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 10: I'm gonna get everybody on there for you.

845
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: And if you don't want me to get on, I

846
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: just send it to you.

847
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 12: I have to take a picture of the most so

848
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 12: you can see the whole fight that Brian Steel was fighting.

849
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: All right, for me to break down a little bit

850
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: of what you just heard there, Rollo was on the

851
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: phone explaining conversation he had with the police. Now I see,

852
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: I can't excelate too close to home for me. Now,

853
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: I do know because I've been under investigation that sometimes

854
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: you do have to have a conversation with them. You

855
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: don't never gotta tell them nothing, but they sometimes like

856
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: they do, I need to talk to you about a

857
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: shooting that took place, and they will bring you in

858
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: somewhere and ask you questions.

859
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: You tell them, Y'll get my lawyer. That's the end

860
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: of the conversation.

861
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: They're saying that he had a prof This is a

862
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: meeting between law enforcement and an alleged person who has

863
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: information about criminal activity. This meeting is in hopes that

864
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: they come up with some kind of agreement that he

865
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: provides enough information that's fulfilling or gives them enough insight

866
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: that they're okay with recommending that he has a healthier sentence,

867
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: and so they'll talk to the judge about getting them

868
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: a lesser sentence. Now, what Rollo is saying is, Yo,

869
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: I did. What I was doing was trying to work

870
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: my move. Now Rollo is saying, some dude came to

871
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: him told him, Yo, I want to take the charge

872
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: for you, bro, I don't want you going down and

873
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: they working some kind of move.

874
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know, but I'm telling young Ni.

875
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out the streets because that's to me

876
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: when I look at my niggas, I guess my question

877
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: is how you know when a nigga ain't working to

878
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: move on them?

879
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 8: Like?

880
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: You don't have no way of knowing. Now I went

881
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: in there, I try to work my move. Fam.

882
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: I just don't know how if you are still operating

883
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: out side of the law, how you can even distinguish

884
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: whether or not if they allow people to talk to

885
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: the police and say that we just playing or we're

886
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: working to move.

887
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: My new question would be, how do you know the difference?

888
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 14: Then?

889
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: How do we know when a nigga investigates. Everybody's gonna say, now,

890
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: I was just working to move family. So I guess

891
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: it's about who go to jail if a nigga don't

892
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: go to jail like I don't. That's why all of

893
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: that over that little money man. Come on, man, like

894
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: we're making seven figures out shit. We make seven figures

895
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: out broken pallets. We making money off shit. Won't play

896
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: like that. Pay attention. So before it went extremely vile,

897
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Ralo kind of knew it was coming down the hill,

898
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: so we kind of came out and said this on

899
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: his Instagram. If I say I love you or forgive you,

900
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: it's only for the sake of our Lord, because I

901
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: want him to love and forgive me.

902
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: The day of judgment.

903
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: Misguidance has led our people astray for countless years. And

904
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: when a person know the truth and lead the people wrong,

905
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: it is the worst kind of person on earth.

906
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: I will forever lead our people.

907
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: From walks into the light, no matter how much lame

908
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: should a person say a dude to me, I was

909
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: forever staying on doing what's right by my Lord, and

910
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: I deeply apologize for any of the brothers, including myself,

911
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: that has led us and others in the wrong direction.

912
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: Let's never mix our religion with the streets, because that's

913
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: a invitation itself. But I never snitched, nor have I

914
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: gave up any of my plugs. I got more time

915
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: than any person on my case and I'm still locked

916
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: up while everyone else is out. I beg to you all.

917
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: I beg that you all go to my website and

918
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: read the truth. So if you tell and nobody go

919
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: to jailing, you get the most time and do get slippery.

920
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how they work, so I'm saying how

921
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: I telling, I got the most time. But at the

922
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: end of the day, when you win that and it's

923
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: like all of that blurred lying shit. Okay, So Rollo

924
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: reached out to ten ninety Jake. For those of you

925
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: don't know who this is, it's like some white dude

926
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: who goes over all.

927
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 1: The snitch paperwork. That's his one two that's his life thing.

928
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 13: Right.

929
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: They've now appointed him some cultural advisor. I don't know why,

930
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: but I know Ralloh scrambling to get his name clean.

931
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: So he run to the white boy like to me,

932
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna te I'm.

933
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: Gonna say this right now, and this don't got shit

934
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: to do with Rolloh or nobody else. Matter of fact,

935
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: this don't got shit to do with ten ninety j

936
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: But these white boys in the culture from outside the culture,

937
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: and they talking directly to the street shit. I ain't

938
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: talking about they talking hip hop. Hip hop welcomes everybody,

939
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: but they talking street shit. Ten ninety j Traplord Ross,

940
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: They talking street shit. They not appointed to my culture.

941
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: About who told who a killer? Who a murderer? Niggas man, Listen,

942
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: a lot of these, a lot of our culture, y'all

943
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: don't even have the criteria to understand. Y'all on the

944
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: outside looking in. I don't give a fuck how many

945
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: tattoos you win and got. I don't give a fuck

946
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: what band down and you winning? Grab you still on

947
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: the outside looking in, some of the shit that was

948
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: handed to us that we got to shake off of us,

949
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: y'all would never understand. So even in our common conversation,

950
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: a man from the UK can frame us, a man

951
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: from the UK can misrepresent us. Now we have the

952
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: same thing with ten ninety Jake, not saying he misrepresenting anything.

953
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that can't nobody from outside of our

954
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: culture understand the intricate details of the culture. And for

955
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: some reason, Black people will appoint anybody that agrees with them.

956
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: Ten ninety Jake is in a situation with all you know,

957
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: and I talk about whatever I want to talk about.

958
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Ain't no police paperwork on big loan.

959
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: You understand, period, right, But ten ninety Jake just had

960
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: came before that and said Boston Richard was a rat,

961
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: and he had posedly told and nobody went to jail.

962
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: That's another reason why I can't lend them that level

963
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: of respect. And that's what all due respect is because

964
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: I know, boy, the culture gonna, boy, we're gonna send

965
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: some warves at you. You gotta know how to stand

966
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: on it. And is it really worth a white dude

967
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 2: in our culture calling somebody snitch that might really try

968
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: to get him killed, Like if I really put some

969
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: pressure on a nigga, like academics make it uncomfortable for

970
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: ten ninety j Well, can I make them say I

971
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: ain't a rat? Or can I make them say one

972
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: of my opposition is a rat. You put pressure on Loom,

973
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: You don't get nothing out of that, but pressure brought

974
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: back to you. Hopefully we all get to just operate

975
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: into space without all of that. But when it comes

976
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: to these kind of things, I just think some of

977
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: those guys probably need to take a back seat. And

978
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 2: I want to be clear I don't care how much

979
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: time you've done. I don't care how many tattoos you got,

980
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: who embraced you. I don't care. I still believe you

981
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: to be disconnected on what it is and what it

982
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: was for us to be black people that grew up

983
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: in the the ghetto with generations of this activity. I

984
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: know dudes that I know they try to prop themselves

985
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: up because they've been to jail, or because they've been

986
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: shot and stabbed up. It's like, yo, somebody tried, you know.

987
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: I just I view that different. So a lot of

988
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: y'all have come out and kick this man. I did

989
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: twelve years. Man, Yeah, you didn't have no lawyer and

990
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: you copped out because you know nothing.

991
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: You nigga.

992
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: They gave you twelve years for a robever of a

993
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: gas station. But let's get back to this again. In

994
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: my opinion, the characters like ten ninety J, Trapplo or Ross,

995
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: they don't they cannot get. They can talk hip hop,

996
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: they can talk music, come and tear music interviews, but

997
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: when they go to talking about street shit, I ain't

998
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: talking about it because they'll go to say in the

999
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: paperwork said this, and the PaperWorks, he tweeted, this, It's like, Yo,

1000
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: some of this shit, you guys are interpreting. Y'all are

1001
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: not using all these things, you know, line by line,

1002
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: word by word, definition by definition, y'all are interpreting, right, So.

1003
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: What this meant? Was this?

1004
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 2: And what that one? It's like, yo, y'all putting y'all

1005
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: two cents in and it's a lot missing from y'all

1006
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 2: to be one of us. Now, after this, Raloh reaches

1007
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: out to ten ninety j because he's desperate at this

1008
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: point to get his name clear. I know that's probably

1009
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: feel bad you behind the walls them niggas said, what

1010
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: you're trying to clear that up? And I ain't even

1011
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: to be honest, I ain't even like Roloh calling this

1012
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: this white boy the king of paperwork. How is this

1013
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: nigga the king of this nigga not the king of paperwork?

1014
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: He do a great job on YouTube. I ain't even

1015
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: and I hate that. I don't want this to come

1016
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: off as a dish to Jake, because it ain't. This

1017
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: more about preserving and protecting our culture, Like nigga, these

1018
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: is streaked.

1019
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: This is ruining niggas lives. This rat shit.

1020
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: You understand, we can't leave that up to no nigga

1021
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: that ain't from culture to be dibbling and dabbling in

1022
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: that and being a judge and jewelor about who what

1023
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: win and say what and he interpreting shit, I ain't

1024
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: saying he if he were going all by the paperwork

1025
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: and straight down the middle, that's one thing. But you

1026
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: just called Boston Richie and Raloh differently, so they let

1027
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: me know how you can be you can be swindled,

1028
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: and I just got on to him, you know. So

1029
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: again we gotta do a better job and not only

1030
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: appointing people because we need to get outside out. But

1031
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: let's listen to what Raloh and ten ninety Jake spoke about.

1032
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 17: His brother has little words from one place to one another. Yeah,

1033
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 17: he had to probably go to do protus or some

1034
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 17: type of shit and reference to this matter. So honestly, bro,

1035
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 17: the brothers completely needs leading people into the wrong direction

1036
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 17: and still trying to save face at the same time. However,

1037
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 17: no person on earth was effected a bye the position

1038
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 17: my lawyer did my lawyer when or I made it

1039
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 17: look juicy, like I said, made it look juicy for

1040
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 17: these individuals to somehow, you know, show the misconduct that

1041
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 17: went on within this case.

1042
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 12: I ain't no nigga around this much.

1043
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 16: That's not gonna leave it about flaw work out. Yeah,

1044
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 16: so do you mind me telling it internet that you

1045
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 16: tried to take charge from me?

1046
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: And out of that.

1047
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 16: Nobody know that, I say, you my code defending he

1048
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 16: had nothing to do with our case out, So I

1049
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 16: don't know why the heck he acted like got un

1050
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 16: told him now my cold street, that's what I'm trying

1051
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 16: to classify the whole world that got just told on

1052
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 16: my coat.

1053
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: But what what I'm trying what I'm trying.

1054
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 16: To clarify that did I ever tell on you who

1055
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 16: tried to take the charge?

1056
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 12: Yes, but you could tell that the end there, I'm saying, answer.

1057
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 16: The question like did I?

1058
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 10: I just want to.

1059
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 18: Make sure entire your case it is wild. And immediately

1060
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 18: when I heard about the situation, I started looking at

1061
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 18: the paperwork. I got in contact with John Doe on

1062
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 18: hear and everything he's saying it.

1063
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm blowed away by it.

1064
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 18: But at the same time, I questioned, why not release

1065
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 18: all one hundred and sixty seven pages?

1066
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Why just bid by bid it?

1067
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 18: And I mean, yeah, if I seen his message, because

1068
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 18: I don't remember seeing his message beforehand.

1069
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: But if I saw a message.

1070
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 18: Saying, you know, I got paperwork on somebody give me

1071
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 18: some bread, I'm doing that fine the paperwork. I'm not

1072
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 18: paying you for paperwork because I'm not gonna stamp anything

1073
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 18: I can't find myself, because I'm gonna go directly to

1074
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 18: the source. And I'm gonna say right now, none of

1075
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 18: his paperwork is publicly available. None of you can get it.

1076
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: I can't get it.

1077
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 18: Only Ralloh and the people associated within the case have

1078
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 18: access to this, so nobody.

1079
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Can stamp shit.

1080
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 18: The fact that Raloh is saying, yeah, this happened, and

1081
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 18: this happened, but this is how it happened. It is

1082
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 18: confirming the paperwork.

1083
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: But this is the thing.

1084
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 18: John Doe recorded Raloh speaking, but edited out the pots

1085
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 18: he didn't want anyone to hear on what Ralo was saying.

1086
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 18: I calm into the Raloh's picture on Instagram. I was

1087
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 18: able to get in contact entire your case.

1088
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: Very mis situation.

1089
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's only one rule to this whole thing,

1090
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: and that is that it ain't no rule the term snitching.

1091
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: The term snitching is.

1092
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: Moved around so much in this new age that I'm

1093
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: just uncomfortable being a part of any criminal activity with anybody.

1094
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1095
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: Of course, now I'm we adults and we're trying our

1096
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: best to stay on the right side of the law.

1097
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: But what that what they've been able to do with

1098
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: the snitch word, The rebrand of the snitch word has

1099
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: been very interesting because it was no nonsense when I

1100
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: was coming up, and now it seems to have caughed out,

1101
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: like even with Takashi. You know, Takashi say, well, na,

1102
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: na them nigga tried to kill me, try to fuck

1103
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 2: my baby mama knee, what ippo gonna do twenty years

1104
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: about that?

1105
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: Then people got the same way.

1106
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: You know, it kind of do make sense that they're

1107
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: stretching the para, they're moving the gold post in regards

1108
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: to what snitching means. And I'm gonna be honest, I'm

1109
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: not I don't know how to feel about it.

1110
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1111
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: I was just talking to my mama and I was

1112
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: telling them, Man, I'm so proud of myself from getting

1113
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: away from what I was used to, the ability to

1114
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: be able to change, and when I look at this

1115
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: Rouloh situation and just how hip hop is reacting to snitching, right,

1116
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: I come from a game where I saw it happen.

1117
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: It actually happened to me, so I identified with it on

1118
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: a different level. But it's becoming scary how the lines

1119
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: are being blurred. This is what's important. This, in my opinion,

1120
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 2: is what's infectious. Once you get certain people to say

1121
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: certain things are okay. Now we don't know what snitching

1122
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: really is no more, because if I'm keeping it out

1123
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: the way gangster them. The mistake that Raloh made was

1124
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: even saying that I agree to give information. I know

1125
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: that he's saying he would work in the move, but

1126
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is if I'm in the street. Thank god,

1127
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm no longer in the street, But if one of

1128
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: my homeboys see down here, we call it warm. When

1129
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: a nigga get warm, we get to figuring out he

1130
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: might be a little warm. They might be owned to

1131
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: him right, somebody around him might be working. It might

1132
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: be we cut him off. Then he don't even gotta

1133
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: be hot. Me understanding a little bit about the underworld,

1134
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: that is the streets, and being in charge with certain

1135
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: things and being uninvestigation and things like that. But here's

1136
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: the reality that I must come to terms with and

1137
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: come to grips with. That's why, even though I've been

1138
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: snitched on, I'm no longer emotionally involved in hootiling and

1139
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: all that. Y'all out here bullshitting with the hooteling, and

1140
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: he tell he did this, so he told, he said,

1141
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: it's y'all done, got it done. Got slippery out there,

1142
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: it doesnet got foggy, y'all. It ain't even making sense anymore.

1143
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: So I'm no longer emotionally involved in it. And then

1144
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't have to be because I ain't operating in that

1145
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: space no more.

1146
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: Right.

1147
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: I still got own boys just outside, but I'm not

1148
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: operating in that space, and they know you can't come

1149
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: around me with none of that. I feel like I

1150
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: got out of that burning building. I ain't talking about

1151
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: the rapper, the weak ass, bouge ass don't even speak

1152
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: back to his fans, that kind of nigga. You know,

1153
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: when them them kind of rapping ass, I expect them

1154
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: niggas to go in there and tap right out.

1155
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I learned this in the street, and

1156
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: what the street taught me.

1157
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: Is that money, with Trump everything, it's still gonna be

1158
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: some women that's gonna sleep with him. It's still gonna

1159
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: be some niggas that's gonna ride with him. And when

1160
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 2: I say ride, I mean if you violate this shit,

1161
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: they gonna ride for that boy. Yeah, can all things consider.

1162
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: They still on the front line for that boy because

1163
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: he got that monopoly money, he got the Trump called

1164
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: over there. So it's still he's still gonna get women.

1165
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: And this ain't about Rollo or no rapper. I'm telling

1166
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: you what I learned in the streets, homie. They still

1167
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: gonna get women. Niggas still gonna really serve me. He

1168
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: ain't telling on me this how stupid the game is nowaday.

1169
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: The women still gonna fuck them, they gonna steal. It's

1170
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: just it's still room for them niggas in the streets now.

1171
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: And so when they allowed room for all that, they

1172
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: let me know check please. So now I'm getting into

1173
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: the weeze about it, right. Say you come from the street,

1174
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: say you get hot, you have five six good summers.

1175
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: Cause one thing about this game. You don't stay in

1176
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: this game.

1177
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: This game.

1178
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: You coming out the game, homie, you gonna catch a

1179
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: file or technical or injury something. You coming out this game,

1180
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: this hustling game. At some point you coming out of us.

1181
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: Most times you going to jail, something happened to deplug,

1182
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: send some bad shit, drop you back down to something

1183
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: gonna you, gonna you coming down the hill at some point,

1184
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: but it never does feel like it. I was, I

1185
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: was talking to my homeboy yesterday. I say, Yo, we

1186
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: gave too much the ball.

1187
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: In the street.

1188
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: Now, we gave too much energy, too much time. Like

1189
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: It's almost like you got the hot hand. He might

1190
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: be the best score on the court, but he can't

1191
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: stay in the game. I know real intelligent men that

1192
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: been behind balls their entire life. They might get two

1193
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: or three four years out here.

1194
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Some of my homeboys only get an eighteen month stand

1195
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 1: out here, and they go back every single time.

1196
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: He don't get a chance to structure life, homie. He

1197
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 2: don't get a chance to meet a woman and indulge

1198
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 2: in love.

1199
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: Homie. And I had to preach to the homeboys.

1200
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: Listen, these little niggas that got jobs and shit, they

1201
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: ain't swift than you.

1202
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: They just more structure than you. You don't get a

1203
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: chance to stay.

1204
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: Out here in love on your whole lady and being

1205
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: with your old lady because you out here a little

1206
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: bit and you gone back in that a pressure on

1207
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: her to hold it down. Now a pressure on her

1208
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: to hold it down. But you can't stay in the game.

1209
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: They feed you the rock. You can hit from any well,

1210
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: but it don't do you no good. When you get

1211
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: two three year run run up a million. Say you

1212
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: run up a million liquid and then gotta go sit down.

1213
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: And the fis got a new trick.

1214
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1215
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: See when I was coming up, they didn't get to

1216
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: take ah Lord, I saw that change.

1217
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Man.

1218
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: Now the fizz in the state far as the police,

1219
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: they come in to try to take all the money.

1220
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: They try to wipe a nigga ass out when they

1221
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: bring him back through the jail house, bring him out

1222
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: here that nigga been hustling. Back in the day, a

1223
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: nigga do a diamond, get out and still rolling. He

1224
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: got shit buried and put up.

1225
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: Nowadays, whatever tactics they got in place, they bleeding a

1226
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: nigga out.

1227
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: The lawyers high they need to file this. A private

1228
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: investigator costs this. This is what I'm telling niggas who's

1229
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: been through some of these things, where you gotta kick

1230
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: out twenty five hundred for and private investigate on your behalf.

1231
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: You got to kick out five grand for mental evaluation

1232
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: for somebody or just different things. Trying to plead your

1233
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: case in court. Man, that shit can get expensive. And

1234
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: so now I feel as though they've conducted some kind

1235
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: of coalition to be able to come and get all

1236
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: the damn now, all the money you made out the street,

1237
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: come dry that shit up. Now, if your team strong,

1238
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: you might be okay. But now you warm. I done

1239
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: saw one nigga get fifty niggas took down, and not

1240
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: because he told, because when they got on him, they

1241
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: got on due it and then they got on due

1242
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: it and they got on him and they just, Oh,

1243
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: you led us into the pipeline. You see what I'm saying,

1244
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: You let us right into. Now we got numbers and

1245
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: certain things on it. Man, that shit is deep. So

1246
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm just telling y'all the street thing is to me,

1247
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: we're giving too much the ball in it. And I

1248
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: know it's hard because this nigga's getting off out there.

1249
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm talking about niggas having some of my homeboy, they

1250
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: having three and four cubans like I got them. Niggas

1251
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 2: getting a fuck off, you understand. So I know that's rough.

1252
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: Loon come through what to come on. Man, you feel

1253
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: me and I know what it's like, but I got

1254
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: to breathe life into it.

1255
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: Though.

1256
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: I gotta stand on that because it's important that we know.

1257
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: We can't live in that house.

1258
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1259
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: That motherfucker made of straws. That house them made of straws.

1260
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1261
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: These people gonna tell my, nigga, these people gonna do something.

1262
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 2: They gonna put you in position where you can't stay

1263
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: on that streek. You own, that shit you fell in

1264
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: love with, having all them cars to create. They gonna

1265
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: put something in place right to knock you off their street.

1266
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: And once they knock you off once, now they put

1267
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: a tail on you. But you addicted. You going right

1268
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: back to that same spot, but you're gonna do it

1269
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: a little different this time. And when I say that

1270
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: same spot, some of y'all to say, nigga, he ain't

1271
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: talking about me. I ain't go back to the same block.

1272
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about the same block. When I say

1273
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: that same spot, I'm talking mental spot. See, you gotta

1274
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: learn how to revaluate your circumstances. You got to learn

1275
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: how to transcend your circumstances because you will be going

1276
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: right back to that same spot and just doing something different.

1277
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: It ain't what you was doing that got you anyway.

1278
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: It was the spot, no matter what you do in

1279
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: that spot.

1280
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So I'm.

1281
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: Trying to breathe life in the niggas and at some

1282
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: point I know it gets rough.

1283
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: Let's just use that analogy.

1284
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: You got the hot hand, you getting money, everything you

1285
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: pull in going out, and you getting profit on it.

1286
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: Everything straight is good. But this game ain't gonna allow that.

1287
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna call a time out of file. That Nigga's goal.

1288
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: That Nigga hit every shot he had on the court,

1289
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: but he wasn't in the game. But thet a second,

1290
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: you ain't been able to enjoy that money you know made.

1291
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: You ain't even know what.

1292
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: Life is like. That's why you keep buying the same

1293
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: chain over and over. So what I'm saying I had

1294
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: to tell niggas that why you buy the same tube

1295
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: and five times you ain't been nowhere. You ain't travel,

1296
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: you ain't bought no business, you ain't got no buildings.

1297
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: What were doing, homie? You know the cordiers A girl wise?

1298
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: Huh? You like it, don't you?

1299
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't really like them kind of watches, but I

1300
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: respect your hustle homie. But while we keep buying this

1301
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: kind of shit, you own anything, you know. I'm in

1302
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: the industry now home, I'm around these niggas that talk

1303
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: this money shit and they don't even own their house.

1304
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: They be renting their house and shit talk big money shit.

1305
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: I be confused. You don't own no house and you

1306
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: talking like that. For me, I don't understand it. But

1307
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: when I realized that in the streets, I was able

1308
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: to ball in the grand scheme of things, and I

1309
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: pulled it out and thought about life, and I said, damn,

1310
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm able to ball for two minutes, but then they

1311
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: take me out the game for twenty two minutes. I'm

1312
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: in a effective So I'm saying, because your presence ain't

1313
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: all you lose when you go to jail. You lose

1314
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: the connection with the children, the connection with your mother.

1315
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate that niggas had to lose. They loved ones

1316
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: in jail and got to swallow that. Knowing you the protection,

1317
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: knowing you the person that would have made sure that

1318
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: they was in a situation where nothing never happened to

1319
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: them while you was around. They say, Nah, don't be

1320
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: hard on yourself, bro, You just going through something. Yeah,

1321
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: but I'm dealing with the results. And I know for

1322
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: a fact nothing never happened when they was around me.

1323
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: But damn, I can't get next to them. They got

1324
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: me in this pine box and they just constantly out there.

1325
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: I'm losing shit. I'm losing shit. They disconnected me from life, nigga.

1326
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: They making me hard cold, They changing who I am, nigga,

1327
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: the loving spirit I got, the worry I am for

1328
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: them people that they doing harm to on the outside.

1329
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: It's bigger than going to jail, my nigga. It's all

1330
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: unless you just want you just in the way out here.

1331
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: You know, I don't never be talking to y'all. That's

1332
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: in the way. I be talking to the men. I

1333
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: be talking to them guys. Dog, I be talking you

1334
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I don't be talking to you

1335
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: niggas that you just you just out here.

1336
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: You go to jail.

1337
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: The family still rolling. Nobody ain't It's just cool. They

1338
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: just wait on Roy Rddy get out. Ain't nothing stopped.

1339
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: These people ain't worried. Right, I'm talking about the me

1340
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,480
Speaker 2: and them men. Right, It's like, dog, you disconnect from everything,

1341
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: so and I know it's rough. Bro, I gotta keep

1342
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: saying it because I'm telling you I know it's rough.

1343
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: Like one of my little niggas just up the hunter

1344
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: on me, just on a light day. It's not gonna

1345
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 2: make you proud. Bruh, up a hunter. I gotta breathe

1346
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: life into them on the spot. Non Bro, Look look Bro,

1347
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: bruh hear me.

1348
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: Don't hear me. He's showing up. Bro, I'm saying, Yo,

1349
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: hear me, hear me.

1350
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 5: Hit me.

1351
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: Though you ain't seen about that house, I would tell

1352
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: you go go go get yourself in that house though.

1353
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: You ain't see. Then call you how many cotonoes you got.

1354
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to cut into them with a Hondrey k

1355
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: looking right there, like you paid out some of that

1356
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: shit or you waiting on them people to and they

1357
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: call Bro with a hundred K. Now, that's part of

1358
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: your legacy. Nigga.

1359
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: Need to be effective with that money, you know what

1360
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm trying to teach effectiveness to the youngsters.

1361
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: So when you look at all of this snitch and

1362
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: shit in the culture, I try to tell the young

1363
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: niggas in the dog game, it's good too. Bought the

1364
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 2: money five and I say, dog game just is hustling

1365
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: anything you doing, right, But I do want to be

1366
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: clear that.

1367
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: A lot of you weed selling niggas.

1368
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: Y'all cool, and I fuck with y'all, but y'all really

1369
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: don't need to get mess with that dog food. It's

1370
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: that dog food. It's a totally different hustle. It bring

1371
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 2: a totally different customer. And I'm talking to the trenches

1372
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: right now. If you been around that dog, you know

1373
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: what kind of customer that bring you little weed selling niggas.

1374
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: Y'all ain't ready for the finistic. Come with the people

1375
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: that's coming for that dog. Ooh, that dog another beast

1376
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 2: in the street. But that's another conversation. Like Raloh private

1377
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: Jets ten ninety, Jake say Floyd Mayweather amounts of money elevation,

1378
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: he was doing this thing. I try to tell niggas too,

1379
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: all this tricking the police shit that you nigga be

1380
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 2: talking about, or tricking the system. Man, Listen, there's loopholes

1381
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: in the system, but there's not ways to trick the system.

1382
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: The system has been around for hundreds of years. They

1383
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: dealing with data, right, So when you go in there

1384
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 2: and you say I was trying to trick the system,

1385
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: and then you get tricked. And now they got paperwork

1386
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,440
Speaker 2: where you don't really trick yourself trying to trick them.

1387
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: You can't really trick them with the cooperation thing. That

1388
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: shit is sealed proof. They really got to go check

1389
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: out let and do our It's something to go with that.

1390
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, if Rollo was trying to play a trick

1391
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: on them, he really let them trick him. And his

1392
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: lawyer found out about the trick and like, hey, we

1393
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: need to try to do something about whatever that was

1394
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: right there. You see what I'm saying, It's like, damn,

1395
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: now it's homeboy, put it out. It's just I a'll

1396
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: let it be a lot to deal with for a

1397
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: nigga man. You know what I'm saying. Listen, young niggas,

1398
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: hit me when I tell you this. We don't got

1399
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: to be hustling like that. Homing White folks is selling

1400
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: banged up furniture. White folks is selling broken pallettes. Listen

1401
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: to what I'm telling you. People are selling banged up furniture.

1402
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: Furniture would not send it and things in it and

1403
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: don't send it. Niggas is selling pallettes in this big world.

1404
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: If we already got some paper and we can't find

1405
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 2: nothing else to do. Man, I got to say we done,

1406
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: and I them words be coming off as harsh, but

1407
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it gangster. For me, I feel like

1408
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: we done if we can't find nothing else to do

1409
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: with our money with all let we got.

1410
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, because you.

1411
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 2: Really, if you real street nigga, you running a fortune

1412
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: five hundred company. But I say this with all due

1413
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: respect to ten ninety Jake, he can't be the end

1414
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 2: all be y'all for street business, at least not for

1415
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: my people. You know what I'm saying. For y'all, they

1416
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,879
Speaker 2: call him the King good and all that. That's y'all business.

1417
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, damn man, we can't be so

1418
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: inviting as black people.

1419
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1420
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: And shout out to ten ninety Jake make a living home,

1421
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: but at some point I gotta say something about it

1422
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 2: for us allowing like a hen in the chicken house.

1423
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1424
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: We don't know how they feel about these things for real,

1425
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: we don't know what motivation they have.

1426
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what understanding they have.

1427
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: Let me be clear with this homie cause you done

1428
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: being shot nigga, or you done been to jail. That

1429
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: don't make you the same kind of individual as me.

1430
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: That don't make you a part of this culture in

1431
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: the same way as me. You don't understand the intricate

1432
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: details of this coachure in the same way that I do.

1433
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: Because you've been to jail, my brother, because you being

1434
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: shot stabbed, because they've done you bad in your neighborhood.

1435
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: That ain't got nothing to do with.

1436
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: How I feel about the culture or my understanding of

1437
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: the culture. So when I look at ten ninety Jake,

1438
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: or I look at trap Lord Ross, I don't know

1439
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: they backgrounds. I don't know they understand it, but I

1440
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: do know they influence on our culture. And I can't

1441
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: be so mad at them without speaking directly to us.

1442
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: I'll get to them.

1443
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to us while we're so inviting, while

1444
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: we gonna just.

1445
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: Let niggas come in our culture.

1446
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: They can ruin black men lives with the sound that

1447
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 2: they voice, with the right cold signs, and we just

1448
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: give that to them. Help me understand, engaging in content

1449
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 2: creation and being a part of the culture are two

1450
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: different things, and somewhere that somebody gotta draw the line. Unfortunately,

1451
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,839
Speaker 2: I come in with a little bit of that smun

1452
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 2: young so I'm gonna be to draw the line. And

1453
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: let me say this to the youngsters too. You build

1454
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: yourself up as a rapper. You know, you got big mansions,

1455
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: big cars. You haven't whatever kind of sex life you want.

1456
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: Like you, your life is a maculin. It's a lot of

1457
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: pressure and folk telling you come to the jail house

1458
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: and stay there.

1459
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 1: And while you see a nigga tap out, matter, boy,

1460
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: I got some shit out there, gone heal is nigga's time? Man,

1461
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: you feel me?

1462
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: So you must understand, man, that most these guys ain't

1463
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: gonna stand on it. And so after that, twenty one

1464
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: Savage you know, supposedly reached out to his lawyer, Brian

1465
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: Steal and say hey, what's going on? And I think

1466
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 2: Brian still said he didn't snitch on nobody but itself.

1467
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: Twenty one Savage Rollo had posted a broke my Heart

1468
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: twenty one Savage reached out to my lawyer to see

1469
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: was I did I tell or not? And then Savage

1470
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: said he didn't tell on nobody but itself. Here's the

1471
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: new question. I'm and I'm only speaking about this from

1472
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: dealing with it like a guy that's in the street.

1473
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm no longer in the street, so I'm speaking about

1474
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: this on a podcast to try to reach people that's

1475
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: in positions that I'm familiar with, right, So that's just

1476
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: for me to be clear about what's happening to him.

1477
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: But if I'm in the streets, this is why I'm

1478
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: telling people to get out of this because it's too

1479
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: blurri it's too much happening. Niggas gotta be scientists dealing

1480
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,799
Speaker 2: with this shit. Damn, nigga got to be a chemist.

1481
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: They already sending fitting all through where you got to

1482
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: have just a little bit on it because they don't

1483
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: want it without and on it. They don't fuck the

1484
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: whole market up out there in the street. They won't

1485
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: defending on it. They fucking with defending. They want that

1486
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: on their fo I'm talking to y'all out there. I

1487
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: know some people on over your head, but I gotta

1488
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: put this out. If it was a dude I was

1489
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: dealing with and they say, yo, he told something, but

1490
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: he ain't telling nobody told on itself. But damn did

1491
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: he tell inside the secrets. See, sometime it ain't about

1492
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: the person you told him that we put it in

1493
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: the time. Man, Now they checking times you told them

1494
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: about the stash by. Now every kow they pull over,

1495
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 2: it's the stash by. A lot of times they make

1496
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: these deals. And I don't know Rolo situation, but a

1497
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: lot of times that be these deals. Right, Well, this

1498
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: information is valuable, like how was you doing this? Like

1499
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: we was trying to catch.

1500
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: You, Like how was you doing this?

1501
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: Cause we know other people probably doing it like this

1502
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: and that'll make it easier for So the information is

1503
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,440
Speaker 2: important sometime and they'll cut a deal for some information.

1504
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: You understand. And when you look at America America, say yo,

1505
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: if you.

1506
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: Inside this building and you leave out of this bild,

1507
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: like if you work for the federal government.

1508
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: This is why I say the government know what they

1509
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: be doing.

1510
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: Because if you work for the federal government and we

1511
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: tell you how we're doing things in the CIA, or

1512
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: we give you information as to our plans in the

1513
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 2: next six months as it pertains to economics, war, anything

1514
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: like that, and you run out.

1515
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: And say, hey, they doing that in America, They're gonna

1516
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: say he a whistleblower, which is the corporate term for snitch.

1517
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

1518
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: So again, these are the blurred lines, and that's why

1519
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you.

1520
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: Man, if you ain't.

1521
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: Been down for a while and you ain't really got

1522
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: no money, young, I don't want you to start now.

1523
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: Don't start now, little homie. Don't let them folks tricky now, man,

1524
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: if you spreading on the ground now with the little

1525
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: bitty bank roll, say, little homing man. They selling banged

1526
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 2: up furniture and banged up palettes and grills and shit

1527
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: with dent center. Man, it's all kind of shit being

1528
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: sold around here, little homie. Let's figure something out. Though

1529
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: you feel me, this ain't the route.

1530
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: Though.

1531
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: You got your little eight ball, you got your two

1532
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: zips of that dog you think you man like. Listen,

1533
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm telling you let's do something else unless you ain't

1534
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: got no choice. I actually have sympathy for that as well.

1535
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Let's move on from this. You know,

1536
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: we spoke about this for a while. I think it

1537
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: was important. I think it was impactful. So let's move on.

1538
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 2: K Williams, the Grillo hosts, had a conversation about women

1539
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: and dating standards that took the internet by storm. Today

1540
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: we're going to take a look at that video and

1541
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: have conversation surrounding her interactions on this as well as

1542
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club.

1543
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 4: She said this, well, I think that I have taken

1544
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 4: on the range to protect and provide for myself, because

1545
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: what I'm not going to do, Ayana, is be without baby.

1546
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 4: It's not happening without so that would be without protection,

1547
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 4: be without protection, and be without the necessities of life.

1548
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 4: So so but but but I say that with an invitation,

1549
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 4: a Yanla, check me, show me the era of my ways,

1550
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 4: tell me how I might be missing it because I

1551
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 4: might be.

1552
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 19: Okay, I too am an out for woman, so I

1553
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 19: understand what that means, and I tell people all the time,

1554
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 19: I was a horrible mother.

1555
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 9: I was a horrible mother. I was a great father

1556
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 9: the universe.

1557
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 19: When I understand that I didn't know that and how

1558
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 19: to tap into that and the damage I did to

1559
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 19: my children, who I loved it all my heart. As

1560
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 19: soon as I discovered how off I was, I confessed

1561
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 19: it to them and asked them to watch me as

1562
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 19: I rebuilt who I was. And I'm still very alpha,

1563
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 19: but I'm in my throne and my crown is straight.

1564
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm looking forward to straightening my crown, doctor Jana.

1565
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 9: Let me ask you this. Let's get to the logistics.

1566
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: Though.

1567
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 9: Let's get to the logistics.

1568
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 4: We know that black women are earning college degrees faster

1569
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 4: than anybody else. Many of us are doing like like

1570
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 4: we're doing a yalla, We're getting those terminal degrees, those.

1571
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 9: Jds, md PhDs.

1572
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 4: We also are the fastest growing group of entrepreneurs along

1573
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 4: with Latino women in America. Pew Research said that women

1574
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 4: are now out earning men, out earning men and twenty

1575
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 4: two of the largest cities in America, including where I live,

1576
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 4: New York, DCLA. You name it when we talk, and

1577
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 4: I know that you've said that you cannot teach a

1578
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 4: man or tell a man how to be a man.

1579
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 4: So I will not ask you to indict men in

1580
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 4: this question. But I do want you to speak ayamla

1581
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 4: to how women need to, I don't know, position ourselves

1582
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 4: so that we can be in our divinity, so we

1583
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 4: can have our crowns right, how we can create and

1584
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 4: not build when some of us quite frankly, feel that

1585
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 4: the men that are available to us, and I'm talking

1586
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 4: about across the color spectrum, across the age spectrum.

1587
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 9: Trust me, I've done them all.

1588
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 4: They are not positioned to protect nor provide because of

1589
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 4: some of the statistics we just talked about.

1590
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 9: They're not earning the incomes, they're not having.

1591
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 4: The resources, and some of them are not even showing

1592
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 4: up in the leadership.

1593
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 19: Would you date a bus driver, You would you date.

1594
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 9: If he owns the bus, If he owns it. If

1595
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 9: he owns the.

1596
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 10: Bus, that's that's a problem.

1597
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 19: That's a problem because the standards and requisites. And I'm

1598
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 19: not talking about him laying on his sofa playing video

1599
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 19: games all day. I'm not talking about that. But the

1600
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 19: standards and the criteria that we use to measure men

1601
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 19: is off for who we are as women and who

1602
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 19: they are in this society. I would date a bus

1603
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 19: driver if he was if he loved driving the bus,

1604
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 19: if he was a man of integrity, if he was

1605
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 19: good to his mama, if he treated me well. I

1606
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 19: would date a bus driver. But we think that it's

1607
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 19: another human beings responsibility to give us what we need

1608
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 19: instead of us building together.

1609
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: I can build with a bus driver.

1610
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 19: I'd have my little stash over on the side in

1611
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,480
Speaker 19: my prenup, but I could build with a bus driver.

1612
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 19: So I think some of the criteria that we look

1613
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 19: for in the reality of today keeps us unhappy, keeps

1614
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 19: us angry, keeps us in balance, and then when the

1615
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 19: men show up, we want to beat them up because

1616
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 19: they're not living up to our standards in criteria. And

1617
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 19: it's not working, beloved, It's just not working. So it's

1618
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 19: not that it's bad or wrong, it's obsolete. It's obsolete.

1619
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 19: We have to come up with a new way of being.

1620
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 19: I don't believe in carrying a man. A man has

1621
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 19: to do for hisself. My son got his first job

1622
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 19: when he was nine.

1623
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:36,879
Speaker 5: Nine.

1624
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 19: Okay, because you're a black man, you will know how

1625
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 19: to take care of yourself. But I think the way

1626
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 19: we measure it, it's just obsolete.

1627
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 4: I think that's a factual analysis for whatever we want,

1628
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:52,879
Speaker 4: expect we're told.

1629
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 9: We were going to get.

1630
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 4: We got to look at the numbers and what's available

1631
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: on the marketplace. So you're certainly not wrong Anymore's let's

1632
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 4: let's tell the truth of shame the devil. We know

1633
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 4: what you got in that prenut with it would never

1634
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 4: be little, It'll never be small.

1635
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,520
Speaker 9: That's a big old mound of assets.

1636
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: So this whole conversation started like a firestorm on the internet.

1637
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 2: Ebide K Williams did come out and respond again framework

1638
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: would you date a bus driver?

1639
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: Is the conversation.

1640
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: We've heard her and Charlemagne pointed this out where it

1641
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 2: sounded like she agreed, but she then takes a turn

1642
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: and this is what she says on social media. I

1643
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: think that clip was filled with gems. I think they

1644
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: was having a great conversation. Here's what things took a turn.

1645
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: This clip then went viral on the internet and people

1646
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: started to say, ebonny k Williams, was this in a

1647
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: regular working class American? They attached that to celebrity behavior

1648
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: and entertain us, believing that they're bigger than the program,

1649
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,879
Speaker 2: that they don't understand how all of us make society,

1650
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: and so edmony K Williams. Even though she agreed, she

1651
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: came out with this to say on an Instagram pay attention.

1652
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,879
Speaker 4: So after the fifty thousand plus comments posted on social

1653
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 4: I only saw a handful that even considered the possibility

1654
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 4: of a bus owner being a more aspirational position and

1655
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 4: recognizing that I am actually speaking and pouring into the

1656
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 4: ascension of black men when I said what I said.

1657
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 9: But see, no, some of.

1658
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: Y'all were too busy naming and shaming me personally and

1659
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 4: black women in general as undesirable gold diggers and much worse. Now,

1660
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 4: I suspect that some of y'all are the same men

1661
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 4: that were bringing home cs and d's on your report cards,

1662
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: only to then be coddled by parents that said, well,

1663
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 4: that's okay as long as you're doing your best. Well, listen,

1664
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 4: I love and believe in the excellence of black men.

1665
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 4: So no, my dear c's and d's, or any other

1666
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 4: form of mediocrity is not okay. No, I will not

1667
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 4: create a soft place for you or anybody that I

1668
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 4: love to fall comfortably into the bigotry of low expectations.

1669
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say one more time, there's absolutely nothing

1670
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 4: wrong with driving a bus.

1671
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 9: My mother Gloria drove one for years.

1672
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 4: But could it be that Black America has been sold

1673
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 4: a narrative of average, regular and typical being good enough

1674
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 4: for us. Well, see, that's called white supremacy, and in

1675
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 4: this case, it takes the form of conditioning Black Americans

1676
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 4: to happily accept being a permanent American under class. But see,

1677
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: because I know the truth about black folk in America,

1678
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 4: no average is not and will never be good enough

1679
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 4: for me. And the gag is I don't think it's

1680
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: good enough for you either.

1681
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Now at this point, I'm thoroughly confused because I don't

1682
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: know how, And somebody helped me understand how White's premise

1683
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: it got in this conversation. And then I'm gonna be

1684
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: honest with Edminy K. Williams and my audience that I

1685
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: love so much out there that if you're talking to

1686
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: me in a certain tone, I can't receive what you're saying.

1687
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, if you're talking to me like this, it

1688
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: won't work. Out of the fifty thousand comments, it probably

1689
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: was just ten of you that had your own home.

1690
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: Sixteen of you drove your girl's car, so you would

1691
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: never be able to see what I'm saying. It's a

1692
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: different kind of thing when you want to date someone

1693
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: with no money.

1694
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: Like when she was talking, it sounded like some news.

1695
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this saying, you know, but I listened

1696
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: to it, you know, because I gotta respond to it.

1697
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 1: Now his way it gets slippery.

1698
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: She then made an appearance on the breakfast club, and things

1699
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: got interesting, and I am gonna address the bus driver thing.

1700
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: But let's get into the breakfast club interview.

1701
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 9: First, would you date a bus driver?

1702
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 4: And then the clip goes and then I did stare

1703
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 4: into the abyss because I wasn't really.

1704
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,839
Speaker 9: Sure where we were going.

1705
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 4: But okay, because she is an elder and she's also

1706
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 4: my sore and the defference, if you know, you know,

1707
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with you. So I honestly answered, y'all

1708
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 4: in that moment, if he owned the bus, and that's

1709
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 4: what I said, envy. But what people heard based on

1710
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 4: the comments that I said bus drivers when shit.

1711
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 9: People heard that I said that bus drivers.

1712
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 4: Broke, don't make no money and got no benefits, and

1713
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 4: that they were beneath me. That somehow was the interpretation

1714
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 4: of me saying that I will date a bus owner. Now,

1715
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 4: let me tell you what I actually said. And this

1716
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 4: is what the whole holding court shit was about. Go

1717
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 4: go check that out right now where you get your

1718
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 4: podcast Holding Court with W D. K. Williams, Feeder and

1719
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 4: Dustin Ross. I said a holding court, y'all. Let me

1720
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 4: tell you why ownership is it for me? It's not

1721
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 4: about salary. Y'all made it about salary. Y'all started debating

1722
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 4: one twenty five a year versus.

1723
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 9: One sixty year versus two hundred a year.

1724
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 20: Well, you did quote stats before you went into the

1725
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 20: thing with you talked about women. Women earn more money

1726
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 20: than men.

1727
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 9: I talked about black women buying more homes.

1728
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 4: We buy homes at single Black women are buying twenty

1729
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 4: percent of the market share of new real estate on

1730
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 4: the market. I know because I just closed last summer

1731
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 4: and it was a shit showing underwriting. That's another Cora

1732
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 4: laun Yeah. Even you guys do so much work on

1733
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club about what HBCUs. And I was devastated

1734
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 4: when my good friend Eugene Scott sent me a post

1735
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 4: Washington Post article that said black men are going to

1736
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 4: HBCU's one to two.

1737
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 9: It's two to one for black women graduating.

1738
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 4: So these are things we gotta look at because you

1739
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 4: have daughters, and you have daughters, and some of y'allity

1740
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: here got daughters. And if they're gonna want to partner

1741
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 4: and marry men and black men at that, and they're

1742
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 4: gonna want to build together as you two cite your

1743
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 4: marriages as examples of we gotta we gotta talk about

1744
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 4: how people can be equally yoked. So back to ownership, Charlemagne,

1745
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 4: I said, ownership is key for me. Why not because

1746
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 4: I'm a boujie bitch. This is not about everybody being

1747
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 4: a Harvard surgeon. This is about this book right here,

1748
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: bet On Black, you've reddish Charlamagne.

1749
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 9: Y'all were at the party. Y'all know what time it is.

1750
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 4: It's hard to be free in America as a black

1751
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 4: person when you don't own anything.

1752
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what this was. This was a small

1753
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: scale swindle. Let me explain my thoughts, right. I look

1754
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: at this and say, hold on, we cannot have this

1755
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 2: poverty understanding the economics. We cannot just be this one

1756
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: track mind and say is if he owns the bus,

1757
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 2: that's the only idea of ownership. He can own fifteen

1758
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 2: houses and drive the bus. And so this is us

1759
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: dealing with the ownership side of it. We gonna even

1760
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: talk about driving the bus later on, because I think

1761
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 2: it's even gonna come out that she doesn't even date

1762
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: black men, and that's interesting, all this black men build

1763
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: up talk.

1764
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: How does your man feel about that? Would have been

1765
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: my question.

1766
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: I can't wait to that had been my Okay, So

1767
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: how does sidebar really quick? How does your man feel

1768
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 2: about you wanting to build up someone other than him

1769
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 2: in such a way. I mean, I know he appreciates

1770
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: that you care about our people, but how exactly does

1771
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: he feel with you campaigning for me and to be

1772
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: so strong outside of and it doesn't apply to him?

1773
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 2: I would wonder that to me, that's a good question.

1774
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: But let's let's even deal with this a little more,

1775
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 2: just in regards to if ownership. Now, if we do

1776
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: take out a word that, hey, she's looking at ownership

1777
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: because ownership helps you sustain a certain level of lifestyle.

1778
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 2: Let's play into that a little bit, because now that

1779
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it, she did say if he owned

1780
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: the bus, So I guess that means if he owned

1781
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: the bus. However, he owns the bus. But let's let's

1782
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 2: look into this a little more. She's interested in ownership

1783
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 2: because she's saying it evenly yoked and not just living,

1784
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 2: but living a certain lifestyle. I guess, providing the best

1785
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: for the children, living in the best neighborhoods, things like that,

1786
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: which money is gonna have to be a part of

1787
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 2: the equation to be able to do those things. So

1788
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: I think pretty obvious financial driver. Let's just say he

1789
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 2: don't own the bus, but he drives the bus. Let's

1790
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 2: say he drives the bus for Beyonce, been doing it

1791
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 2: for twenty years, but Beyonce owns the bus. You know

1792
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 2: what kind of living there probably makes him to be

1793
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Beyonce's driver when she's on tour or Rihanna's driver. Right,

1794
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: that's too many scenarios, and a lot of times women

1795
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: get so focused on their business and so focused on

1796
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 2: their career that they'll lose their imagination.

1797
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: You wasn't who you was until you was who you are, Like.

1798
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 2: Right before this, I was a dope man right before

1799
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: this page right here that you own. I ain't lost

1800
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 2: my imagination in regards to that. I don't look at

1801
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: a bus driver and make that the end of their story.

1802
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: I come up under my uncle used to go and

1803
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 2: take scraps of metal down there, get them tools and fuse,

1804
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: and we had four and five different transitional homes going.

1805
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 1: So I come up under this kind of tute leitch

1806
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: what dudes is showing me? Now?

1807
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: We don't do that, you know, we hustling all the

1808
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 2: way out the door. How we come in is how

1809
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 2: we go out. And so what I'm saying is you

1810
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: might you might run in us dine now scraping metal.

1811
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: Now you see me dying there on the metal scrap site.

1812
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: You gonna thank loan going broke. You don't know this part, man,

1813
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: This is handed down game. Let's listen to a little more.

1814
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 4: And I mean that with my fiber and my being,

1815
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna prove it to you. My grandfather, carry

1816
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 4: James Williams, had a fourth grade education in Mount Pillier, Louisiana.

1817
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 9: My point is this, It's about skills.

1818
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 4: It is nothing wrong with driving a bus if that

1819
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 4: is your maximum skill set. I simply want to call

1820
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 4: Black America up to the excellence that I know we

1821
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 4: can occupy. I've seen it before. Entrepreneurship is the key

1822
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 4: to me. That's not just me talking. That's Earl Grave Senior,

1823
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 4: the the founder and visionary of Black enterprise. I'm about

1824
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 4: black enterprise, black ownership, and black liberation. And it is

1825
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 4: important to me a It's in my DNA, it's my

1826
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 4: personal legacy because my mama told me, y'all, nobody will

1827
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 4: pay you.

1828
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 2: Let me say this, man, these things again for her

1829
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: to have such a high education. This is why I say,

1830
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: sometimes we get blinded by a mission man. We gotta

1831
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: make sure we keep people around us to pull our

1832
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: cold tell That's why I'm happy that this conversation happened.

1833
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 2: It was definitely needed. But you cannot say ownership talk. Say, baby,

1834
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't own the bus. I drive the bus, but

1835
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 2: I own fifteen houses, but I drive the bus.

1836
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: So you can't be saying you never considered that.

1837
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 2: You never considered the fact black folk know how to multitass.

1838
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 2: You never considered the fact they made us multitass, they

1839
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 2: made us be them kind of individuals. But seem like

1840
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 2: you disconnected to the fact that we know how to

1841
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 2: drive a bus in the daytime and own the building

1842
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: in the night time. We know how to do that,

1843
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: but you never considered that in the same way.

1844
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: You said people never considered.

1845
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 2: And let me relax because this isn't a rant on

1846
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: the beautiful ebony k Williams. This is a response, and

1847
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to put some game, or at least my

1848
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 2: understanding out in the universe next to some of this conversation.

1849
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: Shout out the envy, Charlemagne, shout out the horrible decisions,

1850
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: great conversation, right, but you gotta give us a little credit.

1851
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 2: We know how to chew bubba gum and walk at

1852
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: the same time. You know what I'm saying. Just like

1853
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Charlemagne works at breakfast club but owns black effect, Just

1854
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: like Envy works at breakfast club but owns all of

1855
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 2: real estate. The car show thing. This is what you

1856
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 2: do sometimes. So where you see me at, you can't

1857
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: lose your imagination, sweetheart, Again, I was a dope boy

1858
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 2: right before this. Those that saw me in my missing

1859
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: may not notice me at my greatness. They may say,

1860
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 2: ain't no way if they didn't bad witness to it.

1861
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: You gotta come show them now this that this se him.

1862
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 2: They got the bad witness because where they saw me at.

1863
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: And when you think about love and your consideration is

1864
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 2: that low, like you can't even consider the fact that

1865
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,480
Speaker 2: y'o he driving the bus, but he owned six businesses.

1866
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 2: He own a trash company, own a building cleaning company,

1867
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 2: owned six barber shops. He owned one barber shop, He

1868
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 2: on a clothing store. He on an online store that's

1869
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 2: doing six figures. But I drive a bus too. I'm yeah,

1870
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: I got two hustles bad. I'm trying to get ahead

1871
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 2: this hustle. Right, he'll pay the bills. I just used

1872
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 2: the business money to just keep reinvesting because in five years.

1873
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: This part of my plan. Right.

1874
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: You done caught me in the middle of my don't

1875
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: You done caught me in the middle out on't be planning.

1876
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: You saw me.

1877
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 2: You caught me in the middle of what I was

1878
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: going through because I was headed to You caught me

1879
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 2: in the middle of my plan. And you judged me

1880
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 2: on that and said what damn cause you right down,

1881
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 2: you ain't even asked. I know how to multitask, sweetheart.

1882
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,879
Speaker 2: I know how to work a job in own houses.

1883
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,839
Speaker 2: I know how to do a podcast for a company

1884
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: and own a company. And so it be about the

1885
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 2: game that you understand. I pray, because of all of

1886
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 2: your academic achievements, that it doesn't blur your vision and

1887
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 2: make you lose your imagination and know the possibilities of

1888
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 2: human beings and ignore the fact that a plan can

1889
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: be in process.

1890
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 4: Let's pay attention, but you will pay you. And this

1891
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 4: is not about shaming bus drivers. But I want to

1892
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 4: be clear. If you are driving a bus today and

1893
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 4: that is the maximum of your skill set. I love

1894
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 4: and appreciate it for you. I have to, because it's

1895
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 4: an honest day is living. But I want to tell

1896
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,440
Speaker 4: you the truth, and this is not about hurting feelings

1897
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 4: or talking down or being an elitist. I need you

1898
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 4: to know that in ten years you may or may

1899
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 4: not have a job because AI artificial intelligence.

1900
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 9: This is the part nobody wants to talk about. They

1901
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 9: might not.

1902
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 5: And that's.

1903
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you're going there, Charlemagne, because this is

1904
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 4: the part of the conversation that people really are feeling

1905
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 4: triggered by. We all have to reassess constantly our skill

1906
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 4: set and how it's applicable today and how we might

1907
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 4: or might not be applicable tomorrow.

1908
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:35,719
Speaker 9: So this goes back to everybody conness.

1909
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 4: Well, my daddy drove a bus and he did this

1910
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 4: and this, and he was respectful and he was a

1911
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 4: good black man.

1912
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 9: He was a great black man. I'm sure. I'm sure

1913
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 9: all the bus drivers.

1914
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 4: Are saints, and none of them cheat, and none of

1915
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 4: them beat women, and they all are just God fearing

1916
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 4: men that show up and how they post to in

1917
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 4: this world.

1918
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 7: I believe.

1919
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 9: That's the narrative.

1920
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,759
Speaker 4: And all people that dare to own that dare to

1921
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 4: advance the skill set in a different kind of a way,

1922
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 4: not a better way or a worse way, a different

1923
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 4: kind of way.

1924
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 9: They all have full blown aids, beat their wives and

1925
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 9: will dialogue. That's the area.

1926
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 10: Is this that I'm saying?

1927
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,480
Speaker 9: It's very tyler parent, But eviny.

1928
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 21: What about the bus drivers that their goal was to

1929
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 21: own a home, and what if they came from something

1930
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 21: that necessarily wasn't the best education in driving the bus is?

1931
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: I think we got to broaden the conversation. I think drivers,

1932
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: and this.

1933
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 7: Is what bothers me to make it seem like bus

1934
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 7: drivers only driver.

1935
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Speaker 1: Why would you talk about drivers.

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Speaker 5: Drivers.

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Speaker 7: We could talk police officers, we could talk MTA workers,

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Speaker 7: We could talk all these different people that work at

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Speaker 7: these quote unquote average jobs. Now this is my problem

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Speaker 7: right now. You know, I do real estate, and I

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Speaker 7: do these seminoles all across the country, right me, get

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Speaker 7: thousands of people, the majority of people that own homes

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Speaker 7: and investment homes, all your quote unquote average workers, all

1944
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Speaker 7: your bus drivers, all your mptier workers. So they just

1945
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 7: don't drive buses, they have properties, they have I know

1946
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Speaker 7: a police officer that drives ferraris because it's not from

1947
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Speaker 7: his police job, it's from the houses that he owned.

1948
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't date a bus driver unless he owned his

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Speaker 7: own bus. A lot of people felt it, like, yo,

1950
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Speaker 7: that's disrespectful because just because I took a job, and

1951
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 7: a lot of people take those jobs for a couple

1952
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Speaker 7: of different reasons. One of the benefits, right, they know

1953
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Speaker 7: they can work for twenty years. After twenty years, they

1954
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Speaker 7: can retire it and they still get their retirement and

1955
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Speaker 7: they still get their benefits. So after twenty years they

1956
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Speaker 7: can most police officers the same thing. They get their retirement,

1957
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Speaker 7: they can still carry their firearm, and they can still

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Speaker 7: get their benefits. So I look at it as that's

1959
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Speaker 7: a great hustle. They worked for twenty years. At the

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Speaker 7: end of twenty years, let's say they started twenty one.

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Speaker 7: At forty one, they done work in the bus company,

1962
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Speaker 7: done being a police officer, done being MTA, and now

1963
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Speaker 7: they're just making money on top of money. So it's

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Speaker 7: value over values.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 9: If you let me stop you right there, did you

1967
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Speaker 9: think for one second?

1968
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Speaker 4: And I know you don't know me that well, we've

1969
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 4: had enough conversation you had you on Revolt Black News

1970
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 4: you talk to me about your father who was a

1971
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 4: leader and officer. Do you think for one second I'm

1972
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 4: about to push back on anything you just offered in

1973
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Speaker 4: that statement?

1974
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Speaker 9: You can, right, So I cannot.

1975
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Speaker 4: And so what I'm telling you is what you are

1976
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Speaker 4: applying now is not the facts that they were given

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Speaker 4: to me. Y'alla did not ask me, Evany, would you

1978
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Speaker 4: date a bus driver that also had a real estate portfolio?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you didn't consider it.

1980
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what's more alarming that you didn't

1981
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Speaker 2: consider the fact that, yeah, I'll date a bus driver

1982
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Speaker 2: because I know that the buck kind of bus driver

1983
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Speaker 2: I date or tracked or the kind of bus driver

1984
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Speaker 2: that I have would be a guy that has that portfolio.

1985
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Speaker 2: Right that you don't consider that your imagination, right, not

1986
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Speaker 2: the fact that and I don't mean imagination like viewing

1987
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Speaker 2: something that has no results or no evidence of we

1988
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 2: noticed to be the case. You shitn't cross from two

1989
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Speaker 2: guys that at work right now their own things outside

1990
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Speaker 2: of that black community. So again, your consideration wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: So of course she didn't ask it, but you didn't

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Speaker 2: consider it.

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Speaker 4: Y'alla did not ask me, hold on, now, Ebaney, would

1994
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Speaker 4: you date a bus driver that also has a litany

1995
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Speaker 4: of franchises, because you and your wife just about five rights,

1996
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Speaker 4: six Chris Crystals and Crystal Barkers.

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Speaker 9: Okay, she didn't ask. That was not the framing of

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Speaker 9: the question, Envy.

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Speaker 4: Had that been the framing of the question, I would

2000
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Speaker 4: have said, doctor Vines, I would have.

2001
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Speaker 7: Had properties that I own. Or do you get to

2002
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Speaker 7: know that man?

2003
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Speaker 20: He's y'all didn't listen to the whole ion land of you.

2004
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 20: Ebaney actually agreed with Ion. That was confusing me, well,

2005
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 20: because you actually agreed with Iana when she talked about,

2006
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 20: you know, you should be opened the date in the

2007
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 20: bus driver. You can build with a bus driver. You

2008
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 20: actually agreed with that.

2009
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 14: You agreed with Illa then also conflated more and said

2010
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 14: a loving man someone that loves what they does. There

2011
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 14: was a whole lot of other things. So she agreed that,

2012
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 14: of course I want to a loving man. I want

2013
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 14: a man that's passionate. I want a man with a plan.

2014
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 14: All the other things that came after the bus driver

2015
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Speaker 14: is what Ebany agreed.

2016
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Speaker 20: Yes, So I said, why let the grill put out

2017
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 20: a clip that is more salacious and out of context

2018
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,799
Speaker 20: when you actually did I'm not gonna.

2019
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 4: Throw the Grill under the bus, see what I did there.

2020
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 4: But what I am going to do. But what I

2021
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 4: am gonna do is say that we know the business

2022
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 4: that we are in. So you said something Charlamagne on

2023
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 4: the show yesterday, Well, like we're entertainers and we have

2024
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: to not over for hour and okay, So I want

2025
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 4: to be clear, my beloved Mama, I'm actually not an entertainer.

2026
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm an educator. I'm an advocate.

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Speaker 4: I happen to use the form of television, radio and

2028
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 4: podcasting to do my work. See, we can't conflate platform

2029
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 4: with purpose. So why did the Grill and the brilliant,

2030
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Speaker 4: talented team of journalists over there decide to use the

2031
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 4: bus driver clip, which is sensational and controversial, Because, let's

2032
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 4: be honest, the Grill is not getting the eyeballs.

2033
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 9: The breakfast club is getting.

2034
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 4: Revolt Black News is not getting the eyeballs the breakfast

2035
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 4: club is getting, or the view is getting or the

2036
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,799
Speaker 4: talk used to get because the nature not just Black

2037
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 4: culture of American culture, it's entertainment first. So when you

2038
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 4: start doing the work of educating around where artificial intelligence

2039
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 4: is taking the culture, where you talked doing the work

2040
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 4: about where criminal justice reformed. How this this summer the

2041
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 4: US Supreme Court, y'all affirmative action is we all know it.

2042
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 4: That ship is gone, know that, but no one is

2043
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 4: going to watch in the volume that we need to

2044
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 4: have the impact that I seek as a teacher in

2045
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 4: this world, Charlamagne, if we don't put out that clickbait,

2046
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 4: that's the reality a large and guess what what we

2047
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 4: know because we all sitting here today talking about this

2048
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 4: shit a week later?

2049
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 9: Is it work? It worked there?

2050
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 7: You came back and the next day people feel like

2051
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 7: you doubled down.

2052
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 4: You don't feel like I did. I stood ten toes down,

2053
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 4: I said.

2054
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 21: Was standing down? Though I think you completely like took

2055
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 21: a different time. That was exactly I thought. Thought it

2056
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 21: was tough to watch, and you know, I love you, but.

2057
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 4: No you know how but I feel you. But that

2058
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 4: has got nothing to do with it. Tend to told

2059
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 4: us that, So go ahead.

2060
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 9: I want to because.

2061
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 21: Ten toes down would have been like, Yeah, this is

2062
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 21: the choice that I'm made, This is my preference, This

2063
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 21: is the type of man I want.

2064
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 9: What I watched, were you talking.

2065
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 21: About people as a whole, even white supremacy, bringing up

2066
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 21: calls saying average like it. To me, it felt like

2067
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 21: almost attack on the working class and the people that

2068
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 21: were in them comments more than it was the man

2069
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 21: you're looking for.

2070
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 4: So let's address at Weezy. I'm glad you brought that up,

2071
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 4: because that is the turn that I took.

2072
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 1: So at this point, there's a good games is dating.

2073
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 4: Let's throw that over to the cycles. It's a preference,

2074
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 4: and who gives a fuck? Right, So now let's talk

2075
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 4: about my real work in this world, the work God

2076
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 4: has called me to do, which is to always sit

2077
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 4: in a posture of elevating, advancing, and offering options to

2078
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,839
Speaker 4: Black Americans for us to have a first class existence.

2079
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,839
Speaker 9: So when I talk about a permanent black.

2080
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 4: Underclass, that's something that I talked about in the response

2081
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 4: video that Weezy sighting. A lot of people felt a

2082
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 4: way about that. What the fuck does she mean a

2083
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 4: permanent black underclass? What I mean is the data. So

2084
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 4: I sent Charlemagne a bar graph from the US Census

2085
01:44:55,040 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 4: yesterday and it listed about fifteen different global identity. Again,

2086
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 4: you got to zoom out for this. This is not

2087
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 4: about black folks and white folks in America. This is global,

2088
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 4: biljo't we're raising today?

2089
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Well, what does America do without the working class?

2090
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 4: First of all, it's not about not having a working class,

2091
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 4: it's saying that why do black people. I'm so glad

2092
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 4: you asked this, why do black people disproportionately occupy it?

2093
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 9: Now?

2094
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: You made a very good point yesterday, CHARLOA ain't talking

2095
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 4: about essential workers? Okay, America found out if we didn't

2096
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 4: know before, how essential our bus drivers, our MTA drivers,

2097
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 4: our home health nurses, our custodians, our grocery store workers

2098
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 4: were during fast food, all of it during COVID, and

2099
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 4: god knows we were ringing those pots and shouting them out,

2100
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 4: and God bless our central workers. Nobody loves them more

2101
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 4: than your girl here. But you know what I don't

2102
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 4: love is that black folks died at a two to

2103
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 4: one rate of during COVID. That black folks were all

2104
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 4: ventilators more often during COVID.

2105
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 9: And part of the.

2106
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 4: Reason why that was the case, y'all, is because we

2107
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 4: over index in the blue collar working sector in the

2108
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 4: essential jobs. And many of us don't have the option

2109
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 4: that we all had, which was to our jobs virtually.

2110
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 4: So we are on the front lines in a way

2111
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 4: that disproportion. I don't understand we're dying because of it.

2112
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Speaker 4: That is my issue.

2113
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 2: Again, I don't understand how all this had to do

2114
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 2: with who you're dating, this dude that you're dating, being

2115
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 2: a bus driver, possibly being able to be a bus

2116
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 2: driver in something other than that, the fact that you

2117
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 2: are in a position to not consider that, to view

2118
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Speaker 2: the bus driver situation as not compatible with you for

2119
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 2: whatever reason. Now we get in the white supremacy and

2120
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 2: COVID and people dying and while we're working, what the

2121
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 2: fuck has happened?

2122
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 1: This sounds like talking points to me.

2123
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Man, This sounded like an old fashioned cloud chase to me,

2124
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 2: and I respect it. I'm in the game, so let's

2125
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: take a listen to.

2126
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 7: Disrespect these I feel like you're changing the goalposts right.

2127
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 7: What people were upset about was what you said, and

2128
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 7: everything that you said could absolutely positively be true. People

2129
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 7: were upset that they felt like that you were putting

2130
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 7: down the average person quote unquote average job and the

2131
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 7: person that was working the average job that they're they're

2132
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 7: what they do is not as good as what you do.

2133
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 9: That's a projection. That's a projection.

2134
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 7: So when you start talking about all this, and I

2135
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 7: read the comments just like you did, because I wanted

2136
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 7: to prepare myself when you came up here to understand

2137
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 7: what people were mad about and understand what people were

2138
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 7: upset about. So when you're talking about all this, this

2139
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 7: brother this and the black man is, and the white supremacy,

2140
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 7: this and this, that and the other, that's all to

2141
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 7: the side of how you felt about that quote unquote

2142
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 7: average job, right, and and I'll be honest with you, right,

2143
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 7: And one of the comments that I said, and maybe

2144
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 7: I'm not sure right, the guy was like, he was like,

2145
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 7: you talk about all this about lifting a brother up

2146
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 7: and lifting lifting this up and white supremacy and what

2147
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 7: you do for our people. And then the first thing

2148
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 7: the brothers said was but your fiance was white. And

2149
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there, like, how do you talk about how

2150
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 7: much you're uplifting and how much you are going for

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Speaker 7: black people? But that's not necessarily what you're even looking for.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, damn, let's not skip beat. So

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01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 4: I would love to know how you envy know what

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01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 4: I'm looking for.

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01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 7: We never had the conversation, but you just what people

2156
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 7: are saying on comments with I write and and I'm

2157
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 7: talking for them. I'm not a bus driver. I'm wonderful

2158
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 7: out their podcast the bus driver is and the average

2159
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 7: person or what keeps these lights on here on the

2160
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 7: breakfast cloud? They keep me, they keep me.

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Speaker 11: This is.

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01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:24,759
Speaker 1: About I feel.

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01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 7: So when you ship on the people that.

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01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,759
Speaker 4: Your dad asked wrong for framing, it is me shipping

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01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 4: on them. I know it.

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01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 9: First of all. I know it wasn't.

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01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 4: I think what you're saying right now irresponsible. I think

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01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 4: what you're saying is irresponsible.

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01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 9: I think how people think.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I want to I want to put

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01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 2: it in all jokes aside that I put the music

2172
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 2: in there. But that was a bombshell. That was a

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01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,879
Speaker 2: bombshell in the media world. Right there, Ladies and gentlemen,

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01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 2: for those of you who do not know, said, oh,

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01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 2: you're talking all the black man ship and you don't

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01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 2: need they black men. That's why I just ass how

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01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 2: does your husband feel about you want to build something

2178
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 2: up that you building up my replacement up? Or he's

2179
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 2: secured right, Let me guess he's secured.

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01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a problem with that, which he can't

2182
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 2: have a problem with that, so it just puts him

2183
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 2: in a crazy situation. So instead of me assuming on

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01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 2: my podcast, I would have asked, if I was there, hey,

2185
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 2: how does your husband feel about your position on that?

2186
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 1: And we would have went from there.

2187
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 2: But now you're starting to see Eny turn up a

2188
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 2: little bit because he feeling like, Yo, I got a

2189
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 2: few things on my mind about this.

2190
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 1: Pay attention.

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01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 4: What you are framing right now in this moment is

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01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 4: highly irresponsible because I'm going to if you listen, I'm

2193
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 4: gonna tell you because if you were to listen to

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01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,879
Speaker 4: all of the full Yalla interview, I mean the full sidebar,

2195
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 4: the full episode of Holding Court, Nowhere in any of

2196
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 4: that commentary did I say a cross or negative word

2197
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 4: about the working class of Black America, of a miracle

2198
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 4: broadly or black men. I'm gonna get to the why

2199
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 4: was my fianta and be let me finish this statement.

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01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: You know what people to get to.

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01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 7: I'm just because you didn't need to think somebody doesn't

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01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 7: mean you didn't hurt the community.

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01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 9: I can see anything about somebody like.

2204
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to hurt you.

2205
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 7: But if you hurt people, you hurt people to feel.

2206
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 7: If people feel away about you, they feel a way

2207
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 7: about you because those people that you talked about, or

2208
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 7: the people that buy your books, that listen to the show.

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01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 20: And what about words like average media mediocrity typical in

2210
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:27,600
Speaker 20: the bigotry of low expectations.

2211
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I think that hurt the working.

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01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 7: You can sit here and say no, I didn't hurt nobody.

2213
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 7: You hurt people out there and buy your books and

2214
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 7: follow you and support you.

2215
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 4: You asked me to be quiet, if y'all please, y'all

2216
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 4: asked me to be quiet.

2217
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 9: I listened to your full statement. I understand you minutes.

2218
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 7: And I just spoke for six to talk to you.

2219
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: We got off already.

2220
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 7: I'm just I'm just returning what you say. But act

2221
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 7: like I didn't speak.

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01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: You spoke for twenty Let her talk. Don't do that.

2223
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Let it so envy.

2224
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 4: This is where we're focus and go when I do.

2225
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,679
Speaker 4: What I do in the world is not to protect feelings.

2226
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 4: The candid with you, I understand it's clear from the

2227
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 4: energy that there is an emotional attack that you felt

2228
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 4: was on black men, the working class, and black America.

2229
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,679
Speaker 4: I'm going to hold the space for the hurt feelings

2230
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 4: around that. But more than I care about hurt feelings,

2231
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 4: I care about providing my people with facts and information

2232
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 4: that say that the current way of life for the

2233
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 4: majority of Black Americans is not serving us.

2234
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 9: I'm going off of the data and the facts.

2235
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 4: That I am not okay and I don't think it's

2236
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 4: okay that the vast majority of Black Americans again overpopulate, disproportionately,

2237
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 4: occupy spaces that are not ideal, that make us vulnerable.

2238
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 4: I talked about the COVID that make us vulnerable to death, disease,

2239
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 4: maternal health, all the things that y'all all talk about

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01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 4: in this show every day. Now, if y'all are okay

2241
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 4: with the current positioning of Black America that we are

2242
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 4: the lowest income, the lowest home ownership, the lowest educated group,

2243
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 4: then so be it, and let's just let's just stop

2244
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 4: talking now and keep on going about our business.

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01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 9: Ivy, I'm not okay with it.

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01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 4: So that is why I said what I said about

2247
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 4: addressing the bigotry of low expectations. It's the bigotry of

2248
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,839
Speaker 4: low expectations is the reason why I have to submit

2249
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 4: that black men are now going to HBCUs and college

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Speaker 4: and generally at half the rate of Black girls and women.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that's okay.

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01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 20: Shouldn't we address the system that puts We.

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01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 4: Are addressing the system, but first we have to name it, Charlemagne.

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01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 9: See, that's where people's feelings are getting hurts. The fact

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01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 9: that I am naming it.

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Speaker 4: I am saying that it is not okay to bring

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01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 4: c's and d's through to your home and then expect

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01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 4: to go on to higher education and acquire a higher

2259
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 4: skill set. And when you say that that is hurtful

2260
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 4: to people envy, I'm acknowledging the pain. But somebody has

2261
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 4: got to start telling the truth to our people. And

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01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,520
Speaker 4: some of y'all wonder why you get the political representation

2263
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 4: y'all get because some folks would rather hear things that

2264
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 4: make them feel good then understand and hear the things

2265
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 4: that are the truth. So let's talk about average, mediocre

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01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 4: at typical because because a lot of people felt a

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01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 4: way about it, well, I looked it up. I did

2268
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 4: the service of pulling it up out of Merrion Webster.

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01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 4: So this is not ebony shitting on anybody envy. This

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01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:15,480
Speaker 4: is simply to say, when you do something average, by definition,

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01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 4: it is a typical value. It is normal, and it

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01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 4: is standard when you are regular normal.

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Speaker 1: Man as a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see you taking that stance without all

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01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 2: the information. Even if that's all you would presented a

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01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 2: lawyer mind frame, I would I would a lawyer mind

2277
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: frame I would expect to say, well does.

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01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 1: He own does he own the how does he own anything?

2279
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 5: Like?

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01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 2: Want some more information. I just don't see you. That's

2281
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 2: the entertainer in you. That's not the lawyer's side. That

2282
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 2: was the entertainer fighting back or not fighting back. That

2283
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 2: was the entertainer responding to that, because a lawyer would

2284
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 2: want more information. In my opinion, you see now you

2285
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 2: going to the definition of average and reading it. So

2286
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: you're going back to saying all he is is a

2287
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 2: bus driver when we're saying, yo, Envy just made the point, Yo,

2288
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 2: I know a police got it, got Ferrari's you sitting

2289
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 2: you bigger than that? You sitting next to two guys,

2290
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 2: and you sitting next to four people that said work

2291
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 2: right now that own businesses.

2292
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 2: Edie K Williams, you're at work right now, but I'm

2294
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 2: sure you may own a business. So how do you

2295
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 2: catch somebody driving a bus or saying that because they're

2296
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 2: a bus driver is averaging typical.

2297
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: This is this conversation, and we're about to move on.

2298
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 9: Acceptable.

2299
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 4: When you are mediocre, that would have people real het

2300
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 4: it means ordinary, medium, commonplace, and.

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01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 7: Moderate and the big don't forget the biggo Tree of Lloyds.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna get to that. That's an academic study.

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01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 7: Okay.

2304
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 4: So so those of you that think that's George W. Bush,

2305
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 4: go do your reading. Go do your reading. But let's

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 4: talk about those words, Charlamagne. Nothing in there say you

2307
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 4: ain't shit. Nothing in there says it's bad or low

2308
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 4: or beneath.

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01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 7: Live applied the negative connotation.

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01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 4: That's a projection, and I'm not gonna stand for it,

2311
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 4: because you need to be honest with the actual semantics

2312
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 4: at which we're talking about. So when you say regular,

2313
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 4: hard working, every day people, Charlemagne, that is rhetorically not

2314
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 4: any different than me saying average mediocre work.

2315
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 2: Again, I really don't understand how this got to where

2316
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: it is, But we're gonna move on from there.

2317
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: And so after Ebony K.

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01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: Williams came out with all that, then we got Friend

2319
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 2: of the Show doctor Oumar Johnson. You know that's Friend

2320
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 2: of the Show, that's the home team. He came out

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01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 2: with a few words to Ebony K Williams. This is

2322
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 2: what he had to say.

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01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 15: Aby, Ebony K Williams, well spoken, sister. She made some

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01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 15: great points. But dear Ebony, that's not what you was talking, sweetheart,

2325
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 15: that's not what you was talking. You was on some

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01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 15: talented tenth bullshit and you try to take it back to.

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01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 1: The community this morning.

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01:55:59,680 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 5: System.

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01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 15: See, we can't talk out both sides of our mouth.

2330
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 15: We can't talk out both sides of a mouth. System,

2331
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 15: we can't talk out both sides of our mouth. I

2332
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 15: didn't disagree with much of what you said today, but

2333
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 15: that's not what you said the other day.

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01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 5: System.

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01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 15: You was talking down to working class blacks. You are

2336
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 15: a bourgeois. You are a bourgeois feminist. And I hope

2337
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 15: the god you wasn't engaged in a white man, because

2338
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 15: I thought somebody said you was engaged to a white man.

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01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 15: Eric Ebeny, I better than not find out your ass

2340
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 15: was swimming in the milk. If I find out your

2341
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 15: ass was swimming in the milk, I'm gonna lose a

2342
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 15: lot of respect for you, System, because what that tells

2343
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 15: me if you were with a damn Neanderthal snow puppy

2344
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 15: then you're telling me, at the end of the day,

2345
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 15: you are trying to condemn black men to justify dating

2346
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 15: white If you are an interracial dater, if you are

2347
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 15: a Buddy Hopper, then what you are telling me is

2348
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 15: your whole diatrad, your whole rent against black men driving

2349
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 15: the bus was a justification so you can date a

2350
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 15: white man.

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01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 1: I hope that ain't the case. I hope that ain't.

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01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: You spoke well today, my sister.

2353
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 15: You still didn't deal with collective work and responsibility.

2354
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh.

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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 15: I still heard a lot of Eurocentric individualism. I still

2356
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 15: heard a lot of Eurocentric individualism. And I don't know

2357
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 15: where you've been getting your reports from, sweetheart, but we

2358
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 15: got two million Africans with college degrees unemployed.

2359
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: We got two million Africans with college degrees.

2360
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 15: Unemployed because you was doing a whole lot of pushing college.

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01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 15: You was doing a whole lot of pushing college today,

2362
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 15: like in some form of upward mobility.

2363
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sister, eband K. Williams.

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01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 15: College is not an opportunity for twenty first century Africans.

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01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 2: I think doctor Uma made a good point. I just

2366
01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: wanted to play him. You know, he's friend of the show.

2367
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 2: Shout out Omar. I want to move on to DJ

2368
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,839
Speaker 2: Academics and NBA Young Boy. For those of you are unaware,

2369
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 2: Academics has found himself in a tiff with NBA Young Boy.

2370
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 2: He continues to do commentary surrounding beefs when he has to,

2371
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 2: when he does not have to live with the ramifications.

2372
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 2: For me, I often see Academics able to get away

2373
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 2: with the same things that people condemn Adam twenty two

2374
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: for so, I think this is an interesting conversation. Nonetheless,

2375
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 2: I hate to see the young man DJ Academics ruin

2376
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 2: his business in the way that he's been ruining his

2377
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 2: business to thrive in regards to business, he has not

2378
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 2: placed itself in a situation to thrive in regards to business.

2379
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 2: He has now compromised all his relationships while simultaneously trying

2380
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 2: to hold a podcast position, and he's made this thing

2381
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 2: a very very interesting obstacle. Let's take a look and

2382
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: listen as to how this beef came too and what

2383
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 2: we currently sit.

2384
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 1: This is where it all started.

2385
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 13: They look, how far of y'all not beef a squash?

2386
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 13: You're here, you're acting I might have forgot to tell

2387
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 13: the public. They look how far of y'all not beef

2388
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 13: a squash?

2389
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 2: So academics call themselves speaking on some beef that dirky

2390
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 2: the NBA young boy has. I continue to tell you, guy,

2391
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 2: they don't got the credentials to talk about these things.

2392
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 2: They don't got the credentials to talk about these things.

2393
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 2: Really don't know, man, got the credentials to talk about

2394
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 2: these things.

2395
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh, they beef over they got beef. They beef they beef.

2396
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 2: Listen, when we talk over here, we talk about the business.

2397
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: We try to stay surrounding the money. If it ain't

2398
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 2: about the money, we try to stay away from it

2399
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 2: unless it's something we can teach the kids on behalf of.

2400
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 2: And if a nigga got a problem with me talking

2401
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 2: about what can help the children, they they got to

2402
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:05,480
Speaker 2: come kill me about that. You understand, period. But academics

2403
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 2: now find themselves in a situation where young boy feelaware

2404
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 2: about him even saying, how you gonna say my beef

2405
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 2: over with? And I don't even fuck with you like that.

2406
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm getting sensitive to even talking about act because I

2407
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 2: can tell that like he's ruining his business over there.

2408
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 2: And I ain't really trying to tell no black dude

2409
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 2: down it was all funny games. When the competition is

2410
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's like oh oh we both rolling. It's

2411
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 2: like now it's kind of like yo Bro's it's getting

2412
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 2: ugly outside. For dude lost his Spotify deal, end up

2413
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 2: on Rumble. First week on Rumble, your girl, delete your account.

2414
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 2: So now Rumble that starts off on a bad foot

2415
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 2: where they looking at you like, man, damn, did we

2416
02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 2: just put seven figures into this?

2417
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 1: And so what I'm.

2418
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 2: Saying, Takashi when it got beat up and when it

2419
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 2: done an interview everywhere else except you, and you were

2420
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:55,920
Speaker 2: banking on him.

2421
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 1: That's you.

2422
02:00:57,160 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 2: You tanked your whole platform for Takashi six ' nine

2423
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: and then when he get into something, he run everywhere

2424
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 2: else and do an interview. If you had any sense, NBA,

2425
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:07,680
Speaker 2: young boy with telling you he ain't fucked with you

2426
02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 2: when he wanted done.

2427
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson and all that.

2428
02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 2: Them folks ain't coming to get down with you, and

2429
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 2: you've been promoting them, and not that you need to

2430
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 2: be swapping that, but you offending people what you're coming

2431
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 2: to every some time.

2432
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: You gotta pay attention to that. So young boy said this.

2433
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 2: Act your be along with his industry friends, I love

2434
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 2: this shi t It turned out the same way every time.

2435
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 1: Act you a fat ass whole.

2436
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 2: So the first question you have is do NBA young

2437
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 2: boy got a right to get upset from academics saying

2438
02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 2: him and dirt quote unquote beef is over with. This

2439
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 2: is somebody I ain't even spoke with. This is somebody

2440
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 2: that I leave on red. I ain't answered this phone calls.

2441
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 2: He gonna take and say that the beef over with.

2442
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 2: Now it almost feel like you're working with dirt and

2443
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:00,920
Speaker 2: I fuck with dirt. But it's like you working with dirt.

2444
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: You just you keep.

2445
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 2: Saying dirt, trying to bait him into saying something. Then

2446
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 2: you come out and say that now nigga got to

2447
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 2: say something. Now you're pulling me into it supposed to

2448
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 2: be my homann.

2449
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:14,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he got a right to be upset

2450
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 1: about that.

2451
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 2: Number One, you ain't got the kind of you don't meet,

2452
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 2: the kind of criteriay even know what beef is.

2453
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 1: That's number one.

2454
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 2: To even classify whatever we got going on as beef.

2455
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 2: That was your first mistake. Then your second mistake is

2456
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 2: saying that it's over with. You ain't never been involved

2457
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 2: with beef. And you ain't got the kind of credentials

2458
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 2: to squash nothing. You shouldn't be talking. That's how I

2459
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 2: look at it now. DJ Academics had his feelings hurt

2460
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 2: because he thinks in be a young boy's homeboy. But

2461
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 2: you can't play in with street guys. You can't be

2462
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 2: in the middle. You ain't my homeboy. If you everybody homeboy,

2463
02:02:55,400 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 2: that ain't my homeboy. This shit is common sense. Niggas

2464
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 2: escape to burning. I escaped the streets just to get

2465
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 2: way up here and let the internet nigga trick me

2466
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 2: into getting killed. This is why I try to tell

2467
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 2: y'all will make me the gold and yack. I'm coming

2468
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 2: through saying fuck these Internet niggas. Fuck any one of

2469
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 2: these niggas if they bourgeoi Z, if they think they

2470
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 2: done got so far gone where they can't be reached.

2471
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 2: Fucked these niggas. I done build something that ain't got

2472
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 2: to fuck with these niggas. You hear me, So I

2473
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 2: come through saying, Yo, we didn't escape the streets to

2474
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 2: get waded up here. Save our family live, lavish to

2475
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 2: let these internet niggas trick us in the dying or

2476
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 2: going to the penitentiary these niggas had it easy.

2477
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna make it back hard for us. They

2478
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: ain't never even had it hard. Commenting on how hard

2479
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 1: it is, commenting on how niggas getting through it when

2480
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 1: it's hard, when they ain't.

2481
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 2: Never had it hard, and y'all validating it. I don't

2482
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 2: validate none of these guys, big loan. I don't validate

2483
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 2: these guys. I'm the voice of the culture that don't

2484
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:06,840
Speaker 2: exclude nobody. I can't validate what they're saying. I can't

2485
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 2: vouch for what they saying. I know they ain't got

2486
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:11,400
Speaker 2: the kind of I know they don't got the kind

2487
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 2: of understand they needed to understand what people go.

2488
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 1: I know they don't.

2489
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 2: So now he can't speak on the beef when it's over,

2490
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:21,640
Speaker 2: when it's cranked up, when it's at the top nine.

2491
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 2: You can't speak on nothing. You really need to stop

2492
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 2: speaking on ship like that. Again, the criteria that ain't met.

2493
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 2: You can't speak on that. Let's listen to what academics

2494
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,640
Speaker 2: said after his feelings were hurt, after he realized NB

2495
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 2: a young boy just came out and quote unquote distance.

2496
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:41,280
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the video. Here's a video.

2497
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 13: Okay, I'm just play this because this is a video

2498
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 13: that starts circulating. Let me play what I said. It's

2499
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 13: gonna refresh my mind that I'm gonna respond to it.

2500
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 13: Far ya, Now, I beef a squash you here your

2501
02:04:54,560 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 13: act I might have figured to tell the public that

2502
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 13: Dirky young boy got beef, no more beef. Okay, I

2503
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 13: think it's a little bit out of context. So initially

2504
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 13: what I really wanted to say on the stream, and

2505
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 13: by the way, I can say the culture that's my guy.

2506
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 13: He didn't take me out of context because I said

2507
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 13: what I said. It was being facetious though I was

2508
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 13: fielding comments on here where people were assuming that everything

2509
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 13: Dirk is saying recently is aimed at Young Boy. I

2510
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:39,240
Speaker 13: know that Dirk ain't talking. Ain't talked about young Boy

2511
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 13: for about six months. He's trolled a little bit, but

2512
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:44,120
Speaker 13: he ain't talking about him.

2513
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:44,480
Speaker 5: Now.

2514
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 13: That's different than when Young Boy drops to this song

2515
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 13: like which was one of my favorite songs. I hate

2516
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 13: Young Boy, and obviously you have Dirk drop ah Dirk

2517
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:53,360
Speaker 13: beef when Nigga's on his block.

2518
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 2: First question I have there, And we're gonna go through

2519
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 2: a couple of these clips to try to provisse some understanding.

2520
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 2: First question, I have they what you mean to gout

2521
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:05,839
Speaker 2: a context? That's your words? How's it out of context?

2522
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 2: They're using your exact words. This is the same thing

2523
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm seeing dudes do this niche and thing. Well, now

2524
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't really like him. What'll say, brother? Then what

2525
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 2: you see? And I'm going by what came out of

2526
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 2: your mouth. Other than that, I don't got time in

2527
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 2: this world, in this game, in its volatile space, to

2528
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 2: have to comb through the details every time one of

2529
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 2: you suckers say something. So I'm taking you niggas at

2530
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 2: your word. It's appearing on that pay attention.

2531
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 13: And by the way, a lot of what young boy

2532
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 13: is saying, I don't think he's not necessarily focused on

2533
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 13: Dirk as Walt granted, did they officially or I'll address

2534
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 13: those two.

2535
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 1: I know fans these days are.

2536
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 13: Oh, we're we're ford k Trey, okay, go be Jahn

2537
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 13: morantho you want And there's something he's like, No, it's

2538
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 13: OTF squad.

2539
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

2540
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 13: So I get why people are like, you know, super

2541
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,080
Speaker 13: divisive about it. So for anybody who fell misled, I

2542
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 13: definitely want to apologize. So this kind of went out

2543
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:14,600
Speaker 13: the train or the chain of events that eventually happened,

2544
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 13: because some people send it to me Little Dirk, right,

2545
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 13: he liked Little Dirk went on his Instagram and liked

2546
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:31,960
Speaker 13: this particular pick or this. This is basically a Young

2547
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 13: Boy fan page saying this.

2548
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 1: He liked it.

2549
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 13: So now you know what everybody's thinking. Oh shit, I

2550
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 13: said it, Dirk liked it.

2551
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 1: Whatever.

2552
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 13: Now I am guessing, and I'm only trying. I'm trying

2553
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 13: to be very logical. I'm following the train of thought.

2554
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 13: By the way, I should let you know I've spoken

2555
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 13: to Little Dirk. This is gonna make you like as

2556
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 13: more I tell the story, you're gonna be like what.

2557
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 13: By the way, I've been on the phone with Young

2558
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 13: Boy at least twenty times. I've only ever talked to

2559
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 13: Dirk one time ever ever, like on the phone, like

2560
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 13: we have community with this agenda. Let me now be

2561
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 13: very straight, n be a young boy. You are not

2562
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 13: black balls. Let me just put this out straight. I'll

2563
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 13: get I work at Spotify, nigga, I get call Urted

2564
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 13: on the phone. They all admit you're on the front

2565
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 13: page of Apple Music. Trust me, I used to say

2566
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 13: you were a black ball my nigga, you're not no more.

2567
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 13: So let's stop it with the You're the anti industry guy.

2568
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 13: You just don't fuck with nobody in the industry. And

2569
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:40,400
Speaker 13: whether you like it or not, you know that's true.

2570
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 13: It's one thing if like I get it to you

2571
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 13: in the dirt situation, I don't even really want to

2572
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 13: touch it. That's why I apologize like I shouldn't have.

2573
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:48,880
Speaker 13: I don't want to touch that.

2574
02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:50,920
Speaker 1: But this whole.

2575
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 13: Industry friendship, Nigga, you're more industry than me. You signed

2576
02:08:55,560 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 13: to Capitol Records, You're an industry. I'm sorry. I'm gonna

2577
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,200
Speaker 13: tell the truth. Now here's the thing, because this is

2578
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:09,080
Speaker 13: what gets me perturbed about this whole thing, what young

2579
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:12,080
Speaker 13: Boy wants to say, and especially Yo. You know why

2580
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:15,360
Speaker 13: I'm taking it personally for anybody who's like, Yo, chill out.

2581
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,920
Speaker 13: I do love young I love him as a person,

2582
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 13: but I have to address this because don't kick your

2583
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 13: friends back in while trying to still portray an image

2584
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 13: that you want to keep.

2585
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm not against you. You know I'm not against you.

2586
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:28,720
Speaker 5: Bro.

2587
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 13: Call me when you were locked up and you asked me, bro, hey,

2588
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 13: everything cool with your guando, I'm like all right, listen,

2589
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 13: I'm ain't gonna pursue that shit. No more whatever shit. Then, Yo,

2590
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,600
Speaker 13: he said, well, why nobody fucking with him? I said, bro,

2591
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 13: I think it's because you're locked up. I was the

2592
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 13: one telling you. Other people weren't fucking with y'all. I've

2593
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 13: never gotten paid for y'all to do some shit post

2594
02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 13: you or note like that. I've done it off the

2595
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 13: strength you specifically. Now I'm gonna lie like the NBA

2596
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 13: labeled that's not even him, that's some other shit. And

2597
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 13: I'm being very yes, I'm let's I always tell people

2598
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 13: anybody whoever calls me out be prepared, academics will tell

2599
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 13: the truth and expose himself and exposed.

2600
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 5: Swear.

2601
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 7: I swear I don't like swim.

2602
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 13: So I've supported young boy because I genuinely like him

2603
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 13: for literally years, genuinely like him, genuinely like him. Let's

2604
02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 13: also address this because I Yo, this pissed me off

2605
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 13: so much. It's not the ACU bitch with his industry friends.

2606
02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:35,400
Speaker 1: Young boy.

2607
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:38,120
Speaker 13: You're more industry than Don't ever link me up with

2608
02:10:38,160 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 13: these industry dudes. They don't like me more than they

2609
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 13: all like you. They gave you some of the biggest contracts.

2610
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 13: My dude, I know this, I know this. I can't

2611
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 13: be you know the reason why I'm cool with the

2612
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 13: degenerous of this industry six ' nine. You know, when

2613
02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 13: me and you got cool and the industry wasn't fucking

2614
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 13: with you, there was a time they weren't fucking with you.

2615
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:03,280
Speaker 1: You're right.

2616
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 13: I made my career of taking the rejects of the

2617
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 13: industry and saying, oh, now I fuck with y'all. I'm

2618
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 13: gonna support y'all. So if you think i'm industry nigga,

2619
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 13: I worked at Complex when you body slammed your girlfriend,

2620
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:22,840
Speaker 13: and I remember that a sneaker shopping episode going up,

2621
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 13: and they said, that's just canceled. I don't have no

2622
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:31,800
Speaker 13: industry friends to be like linking up with. I talked

2623
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:33,000
Speaker 13: to a few rappers on the phone.

2624
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 1: I say all their names.

2625
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:36,200
Speaker 13: Me and twenty one savage're on the phone a lot.

2626
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:38,839
Speaker 13: Me and twenty one twenty one call me recently.

2627
02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 2: I all right, So a lot of y'all don't understand

2628
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 2: what industry means. Sometimes industry can mean your relationships or

2629
02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:50,160
Speaker 2: your placement in the culture, but sometimes industry can mean

2630
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:54,840
Speaker 2: your projection and your package. You know people's content. You

2631
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:58,920
Speaker 2: put an industry spin on everything. You don't look at

2632
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:01,240
Speaker 2: a nigga as a human being is always on some

2633
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 2: industry shit, the shy Rack, Grim Reaper.

2634
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 1: You know.

2635
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:10,680
Speaker 2: It's you know what I mean, These ain't human beings

2636
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 2: in your mind. These guys are.

2637
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 1: Some kind of right.

2638
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, I'm a human bro. Don't don't be

2639
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 2: saying my beef squash. Don't don't. Don't don't be speaking

2640
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:23,520
Speaker 2: on what problems I have with other men and shit

2641
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 2: like that. Don't do that, you know, And clearly you

2642
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 2: could tell his feelings is hurt.

2643
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 13: Because he called me twice and I didn't pick up.

2644
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 13: He's like, yo, yo, you've been ducking my call after

2645
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 13: the after you you said whatever you said about a

2646
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 13: Metro me and we talked. Twenty one is my man.

2647
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,400
Speaker 13: By the way, if twenty one said this, I'll be

2648
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:46,680
Speaker 13: I'd react the same way because me and twenty one

2649
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:52,600
Speaker 13: talk a lot another nigga, and you expect me to

2650
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:54,920
Speaker 13: never bump that other nigga's music because me and you

2651
02:12:54,920 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 13: were cool. We're not friends. I mean, it's we don't

2652
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:04,400
Speaker 13: got to talk any either of them. Like me, I'll

2653
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 13: listen to and be a young boy and little dirt.

2654
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 13: I'm not a fan. I made millions myself, not because you.

2655
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 13: If you don't want to call my phone and chop

2656
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:16,400
Speaker 13: it up with me, it's cool. We don't got to

2657
02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:20,280
Speaker 13: talk anybody. But not because you think we're like cool

2658
02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 13: and we talk means I'm picking any side in any beef.

2659
02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 13: This is music to me. Ah's fire. I ain't your

2660
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:32,480
Speaker 13: boys fire too. If you think I've picked a side,

2661
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 13: you need to realize that you're turning the industry into

2662
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:41,560
Speaker 13: the streets and you're in the wrong fucking business.

2663
02:13:42,680 --> 02:13:48,600
Speaker 2: No, academics, you don't understand that the chips have already failed.

2664
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 1: What they made. The streets is in the industry.

2665
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys keep trying to say

2666
02:13:55,480 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 2: you guys are mixing it now age the streets are

2667
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:05,800
Speaker 2: in the industry. These are street guys. A lot of

2668
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 2: these guys are street individuals. A lot of these dudes

2669
02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 2: done being charged with, you know, certain kind of crimes

2670
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:15,520
Speaker 2: that'll let you know they level of involvement in certain things.

2671
02:14:15,560 --> 02:14:18,240
Speaker 2: But this ain't just you're in this business. You can't

2672
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 2: be doing that. No, some of these street guys gonna

2673
02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:22,800
Speaker 2: take what kept them alive.

2674
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:24,280
Speaker 1: So long into this industry.

2675
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 2: And then when you start giving me, when you start

2676
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 2: to resemble a snake and you start to hissing, rattle

2677
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:35,520
Speaker 2: and right, it's niggas got to hey, that's a snake.

2678
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:38,480
Speaker 2: Kill him now, don't wait till he get over here

2679
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:41,680
Speaker 2: and bite me. I done had that happen before. But

2680
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:43,560
Speaker 2: they say, if it looked like a duck and it

2681
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 2: walked like a duck, and it talked like and they

2682
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:48,760
Speaker 2: quacked like a duck, the damn it this a right.

2683
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:51,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know what he gets out there saying.

2684
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:54,720
Speaker 2: Some of these dudes gonna say, look, bro, if you

2685
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:58,800
Speaker 2: rocking with me and you saying we friends, that's a

2686
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:01,760
Speaker 2: different thing. And then if you really pay attention, Dirk

2687
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 2: another street nigga, so dirt really looking at act like

2688
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:07,360
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, being this business. But I can't really

2689
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 2: mix it bling with you because you be saying you

2690
02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 2: and dude friends. So I don't know how far that go.

2691
02:15:12,920 --> 02:15:15,160
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying just on some so you

2692
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:18,120
Speaker 2: sitting in the middle and nobody don't fuck with you.

2693
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:22,600
Speaker 2: Then you go fuck with Takashi, double down on Takashi,

2694
02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:24,160
Speaker 2: and he stopped fucking with you.

2695
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:29,360
Speaker 1: Man, you done made some mistakes. Man, you gotta stop drinking.

2696
02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:33,080
Speaker 2: Though, A psay that you gotta stop drinking and think

2697
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:34,680
Speaker 2: about your position and where you at.

2698
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:40,440
Speaker 1: Make some better moves. Bro, the streets brought you to

2699
02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:41,920
Speaker 1: court with federal charges.

2700
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 13: The industry is all about dick riding and all about

2701
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 13: moving along with what's hot. Don't conflate the two. I

2702
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:54,840
Speaker 13: want to say it one more time. This goes for

2703
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:58,480
Speaker 13: a little Dirk, This goes for your boy, this goes

2704
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:03,320
Speaker 13: for even drink. Well, now, Drake's special because it's my favorite.

2705
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,880
Speaker 13: If any of y'all gotta be with another nigga, and

2706
02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:10,280
Speaker 13: you expect me to never bump that other nigga's music

2707
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:15,800
Speaker 13: because me and you were cool. We're not friends. We're

2708
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:20,560
Speaker 13: not cool. Stop talking. It's fine, there's no picking aside.

2709
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:27,360
Speaker 2: So what I would say is that act doesn't understand

2710
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 2: how culture equity works and how his cachet was built, because,

2711
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:34,199
Speaker 2: in my opinion, Drake messed with you because of anybody

2712
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:36,080
Speaker 2: else kind of wire messing with you. I don't think

2713
02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:39,920
Speaker 2: Drake really enjoys your content or looks at your pardcast

2714
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:40,680
Speaker 2: or nothing like that.

2715
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:43,039
Speaker 1: I just think you hot. People fuck with you. So

2716
02:16:43,160 --> 02:16:43,879
Speaker 1: I fuck with you.

2717
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 2: So now Metro don't fuck with you, all right, that's

2718
02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:49,280
Speaker 2: my That ain't nobody I really mess with so but

2719
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:53,520
Speaker 2: future fuck with it. So future fuck with Metro. Future

2720
02:16:53,560 --> 02:16:56,879
Speaker 2: fuck with Drake. Drake fuck with this person. That person

2721
02:16:57,040 --> 02:16:59,800
Speaker 2: likes you kind of boxing yourself out.

2722
02:17:00,280 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 1: And it ain't about the money.

2723
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:03,879
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the legacy, what you're able to provide,

2724
02:17:03,879 --> 02:17:08,080
Speaker 2: the culture, your reach, you know. And I also want

2725
02:17:08,080 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 2: to speak on this that I think has happened. I

2726
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:13,800
Speaker 2: don't have any proof of this, so we're gonna say alleged,

2727
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:19,720
Speaker 2: but I believe DJ Academics is leveraging the NBA young

2728
02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:23,040
Speaker 2: boy in Takashi's situation, in his deals. I think when

2729
02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:28,480
Speaker 2: he's in those meetings, he's probably doubling down and guaranteeing,

2730
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:30,840
Speaker 2: like I got an NBA young boy, like these guys,

2731
02:17:30,959 --> 02:17:33,440
Speaker 2: Takashi's gonna come. We're gonna make sure. I think he

2732
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:36,720
Speaker 2: may be leveraging those relationships. And if that's the case,

2733
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:38,960
Speaker 2: you're mixing business impersonal.

2734
02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:41,039
Speaker 1: You did it first.

2735
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:45,080
Speaker 2: Really, this whole shit is mixed business impersonal, because if

2736
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:48,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't rapping me and Academics would never cross pals.

2737
02:17:48,560 --> 02:17:51,360
Speaker 2: If you know, most of these rap guys. You wasn't

2738
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:53,720
Speaker 2: somebody that would have bought none from or ran into

2739
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:56,480
Speaker 2: on any kind of circumstance. So you met me doing

2740
02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 2: business even though it's personal. We might be friends, but

2741
02:17:59,760 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 2: it's blended. It's blended because in my opinion, these guys

2742
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 2: are coming out dudes like n be a young boys.

2743
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:10,760
Speaker 2: They saying, man, this nigga keep trying to turn into

2744
02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:15,640
Speaker 2: step farn. Now we want to see Steve. We like Steve,

2745
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:18,320
Speaker 2: my nigga. You keep showing up like Steph Farn. We knowing,

2746
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:20,039
Speaker 2: Come on, man, what Steve at man?

2747
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:21,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2748
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 2: We know you ain't really cut like, stop it, man,

2749
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:28,440
Speaker 2: Stop mentioning beefs. Just do good, good interviews. You got

2750
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:32,560
Speaker 2: a big platform. Control that, but stay out of all

2751
02:18:32,560 --> 02:18:34,720
Speaker 2: that other shit. But these street guys letting you know,

2752
02:18:34,760 --> 02:18:36,519
Speaker 2: they pulling away from you a little.

2753
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:42,760
Speaker 13: Bit makes me upset. You know what, Now I gotta

2754
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:50,760
Speaker 13: give personal information, young boy. It's your choice not to

2755
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 13: participate in the street. You're not getting black boy, my guy,

2756
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:57,480
Speaker 13: you don't want to participate. Dirk's doing big features with

2757
02:18:57,480 --> 02:18:59,000
Speaker 13: people you don't like because he's trying to go up.

2758
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:04,680
Speaker 13: Dirk's having his label spend marketing dollars. Most of Dirk's

2759
02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:07,400
Speaker 13: projects get comes through all the blogs. They spend money.

2760
02:19:07,520 --> 02:19:07,760
Speaker 5: Trust.

2761
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 13: I'm telling you what happens when y'all used to see

2762
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:14,040
Speaker 13: me posting young Boy. Every time I'm posting just for

2763
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:17,280
Speaker 13: the fans, it's nothing. I stop posting because I don't

2764
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:22,680
Speaker 13: want listen Jack Carlow on Pace to sell fifty or

2765
02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:25,720
Speaker 13: one twenty again, and you're not gonna break one hundred

2766
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:28,279
Speaker 13: till you get another hit. By the way, my critique

2767
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:32,000
Speaker 13: on the album was he needs a song to stick

2768
02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:35,039
Speaker 13: because right now, when you see him selling sixty two,

2769
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:37,840
Speaker 13: this is just his raw fans. Nobody sells an album

2770
02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:40,560
Speaker 13: off they're raw fans. They sell an album off a

2771
02:19:40,560 --> 02:19:43,520
Speaker 13: big single. They sell an album off some trumped up

2772
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:48,039
Speaker 13: like feature. That's what it is. So I don't know

2773
02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:50,880
Speaker 13: if because I gave that commentary, I don't know if

2774
02:19:50,879 --> 02:19:54,480
Speaker 13: he saw that commentary and felt like, oh, Actus picking size.

2775
02:19:55,320 --> 02:19:58,440
Speaker 13: He's saying that I need a single, brother, That is music.

2776
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:02,600
Speaker 13: I operated the music business. You need a single. You're

2777
02:20:02,680 --> 02:20:05,280
Speaker 13: gonna continue to sell less than a hundred k until

2778
02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:07,920
Speaker 13: you get a single. I know you are hot, but

2779
02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:10,960
Speaker 13: you you could sell an album sixty two thousand every week.

2780
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:13,840
Speaker 13: Y'all didn't think Young Woy went too far with he's

2781
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:15,960
Speaker 13: an accurate bitch, so don't please don't sit here and

2782
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:18,960
Speaker 13: be accurate making it worse. If young boy don't want

2783
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:21,120
Speaker 13: to talk to me or fuck with me, what does

2784
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:24,800
Speaker 13: that do? I lose zero dollars? Oh, okay, I don't

2785
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:26,800
Speaker 13: have to be on the phone anymore. Okay, cool, I

2786
02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:27,280
Speaker 13: don't care.

2787
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:28,840
Speaker 5: I don't care.

2788
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:32,959
Speaker 2: See that's the and see that's the true feelings right there.

2789
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:35,000
Speaker 2: That's how you really feel. That ain't hurt. That's how

2790
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:37,880
Speaker 2: he probably really feel. So then why would you why

2791
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,440
Speaker 2: do you want the relationship? Then why do you hold on?

2792
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:44,800
Speaker 2: Because you need the guy? Now here's what I found

2793
02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:47,920
Speaker 2: as I'm getting in the industry. It's a little harder

2794
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:51,160
Speaker 2: to trick the street guys. Some of you guys. It's

2795
02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:53,680
Speaker 2: on the other side. They may got degrees and everything.

2796
02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:55,960
Speaker 2: You're doing the hell of a thing. But sometimes the

2797
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:58,680
Speaker 2: street guy catch on to the Oh he running the

2798
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 2: fifty two fake out. He tried to run a fifty

2799
02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:05,000
Speaker 2: two fake out. So I'm on to him. I'm gonna

2800
02:21:05,000 --> 02:21:07,680
Speaker 2: pull away from him a little bit. I ain't gonna

2801
02:21:07,720 --> 02:21:12,160
Speaker 2: do it show. Hopefully he'll get the message. I didn't

2802
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:15,360
Speaker 2: come out. I ain't did just show Dog. I went

2803
02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:18,360
Speaker 2: over here and did Elliot Wilson, I did Billboard. Now

2804
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:22,840
Speaker 2: I ain't dead. George, you got some interviews with me.

2805
02:21:22,840 --> 02:21:29,480
Speaker 2: I don't drop them interviews. Bro we friends. Let me

2806
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:33,880
Speaker 2: let all your industry niggas know this. If you don't

2807
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:36,160
Speaker 2: want to see Loan win, we not friends on me.

2808
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 2: There's some a lot of big players in this game

2809
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:42,800
Speaker 2: want to see me win. Them my homeboys. But if

2810
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:45,440
Speaker 2: you just trying to control Loan, which they don't play

2811
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 2: with me like that. But if you just trying to

2812
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:51,880
Speaker 2: use Loan when you want to use Loan and use

2813
02:21:51,959 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 2: my platform, come on, man, you know that ain't how

2814
02:21:54,120 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 2: that work? How is that how that work? Because I

2815
02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:01,120
Speaker 2: don't know how much money you niggas got to begin with.

2816
02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:03,880
Speaker 2: I know ain't about to act rich and talk rich.

2817
02:22:03,959 --> 02:22:05,800
Speaker 2: I know it takes ten years for us to see

2818
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:09,240
Speaker 2: what's going on. I ain't even paying attention to you

2819
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 2: niggas right now. All the private jetting and whatever nigga's

2820
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:14,960
Speaker 2: doing don't mean now, because I know it takes ten

2821
02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:19,280
Speaker 2: years to see the results. See y'all keep pushing up

2822
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 2: on me because I know y'all making somebody company money.

2823
02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:27,200
Speaker 2: That don't mean you got no paper because you got

2824
02:22:27,320 --> 02:22:30,440
Speaker 2: access to certain things and you you in certain areas. Man,

2825
02:22:30,480 --> 02:22:32,720
Speaker 2: I ain't going in the trick bag. I know better.

2826
02:22:33,520 --> 02:22:37,520
Speaker 2: I've been through enough, feel me. You know, at some

2827
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:39,840
Speaker 2: point you hate to see academics have to go through

2828
02:22:39,879 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 2: this with young Boy because you know he's a true fan.

2829
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 2: He a lover, really loves young Boy. But you can't

2830
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:49,040
Speaker 2: play both sides with the streets. It don't work like that.

2831
02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:51,720
Speaker 2: For those of you listening to the podcasts, come to

2832
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:52,680
Speaker 2: Patreon right now.

2833
02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:52,840
Speaker 1: Man.

2834
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:54,560
Speaker 2: We got a lot more to talk about over there.

2835
02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:56,600
Speaker 2: I gotta I'm fin the crank up over there Patreon

2836
02:22:56,680 --> 02:22:58,840
Speaker 2: dot com. It's up that podcast. I see y'all some

2837
02:22:59,200 --> 02:22:59,680
Speaker 2: skid it