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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Ali here with Matt Williamson and Matt Um. There's

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Speaker 1: the thing here on CBS Sports about the I guess

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Speaker 1: it's the all a f C North team, and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to us to pick our all a f C

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Speaker 1: North team. I'm fine with that. Let's do it and

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Speaker 1: then look at what they picked here. I gotta agree

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Speaker 1: with everything with every one of their picks here. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. Um, you're just gonna start a quarterback? Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta take Lamar. I believe so. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a conversation, and I really feel like

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Speaker 1: those waters are changing. I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: for what Burrow might become. I think Baker kind of

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Speaker 1: is what he is at this point, but you know,

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Speaker 1: loaded with you know, people around him. Um, not that

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Speaker 1: you know, downplay what he's capable of. He's a good player.

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Speaker 1: Um and Ben's at the end, but I I think

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Speaker 1: Ben's could be better this year than last. If you

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Speaker 1: gave me, okay a quarterback just for this year and said, okay,

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Speaker 1: which one do you want to start your team? With

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Speaker 1: like if Roethlisberger on Cleveland's roster. Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about that last week. I would fear the Browns

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Speaker 1: might be like a four team win team, right, running

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Speaker 1: game exactly and fair enough weapons. You know, the bench

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be quite as good, But I think that that

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Speaker 1: would be that I would think the Browns would be

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Speaker 1: a better team. I mean, I'm they wouldn't trade Ben Baker,

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Speaker 1: of course, you know. I mean we know all those things.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, if I'm building a team from here forward,

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Speaker 1: I might grab Burrow out of the four of him,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's a really good prospect.

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Speaker 1: But I think Lamar has to be the one that

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Speaker 1: is the best player right now one year ago, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's a lot different, and we're

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Speaker 1: not building our team around Lamar. We're just picking a

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Speaker 1: quarterback here. I think it's got to be him running back.

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Speaker 1: They only picked one. They took Chubb. I think I

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Speaker 1: can't argue with that. Boy. It's a good group. J K.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins is like fourth, pretty darn good. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think Harris could unseat Dub Trubb. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that could, you know, because he's gonna have more.

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Speaker 1: There's just more there as a receiver. Chubb's an elite

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Speaker 1: ball carrier and he's a great player. They just gave

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Speaker 1: him money and have many qualms with it, even though

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Speaker 1: he's a running back. I mean, he still a hunt

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Speaker 1: who isn't bad. I mean, if he's your fifth guy

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Speaker 1: or Edmund, you know Edwards is your six guy. Pretty

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Speaker 1: loaded group. And I still think mixing could be in

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Speaker 1: the conversation is the best one to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: I was reading something about the Bengals today and they

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Speaker 1: I think Zach Taylor said, they don't know if they

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Speaker 1: have a guard any They still haven't settled on the

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Speaker 1: start two starting guards yet. That's a bit of an issue.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of an issue, especially in this division,

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Speaker 1: in this division with really good interior. D you Lineman,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's problematic. The wide receivers is that's a

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Speaker 1: tough one. It's a tough one. Um, they're taking two

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Speaker 1: or three. It took three. I'm taking Odell okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: third one. From me, I think it's Claypool, Johnson and Higgins.

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Speaker 1: I can't put Odell Beckham on a team when he

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Speaker 1: plays six games a year, I just can't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a lot different than the others. He's a lay

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Speaker 1: a full season since two thousand and fourteen, I know,

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Speaker 1: and he hasn't been great since. I mean he was

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Speaker 1: not nothing good with the brown not being great with

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Speaker 1: the Browns, not what he wasn't with New York. His

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Speaker 1: first year of the Browns was flat out bad. Last

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Speaker 1: didn't see much of him. I mean, I'd much rather

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Speaker 1: have Higgins, Chase, Claypool, Deonte, maybe even Bateman over Odell

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Speaker 1: to build a team around the term. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: don't know Beham is. I just you know, if he

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Speaker 1: had played all sixteen games last year, Okay, I get it,

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Speaker 1: even at the level that he played that last year

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Speaker 1: because he was he was fine, like yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: just can't play sixteen games anymore, No, I mean that's undeniable.

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Speaker 1: Does does Landry cross your mind at all? He's reliable

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Speaker 1: and he's so boring. Yeah, but he's a Steeler, would

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Speaker 1: love him, you know what I mean, He's just Landry

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Speaker 1: or juju. As I was about to ask you who's

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Speaker 1: the better. I think I'd rather Juju. I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think he's more juice, yeah, a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: I think he helps you in different ways too, and

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Speaker 1: blocking and those kind of things. Yeah, so Landry bigger body. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't but like Jamar Chase on that list yet, No,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boy wouldn't even talk about how about Boyd verse

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean if Juju Juju played with that

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Speaker 1: Bengals team lest year, he would have finish with ten catches.

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Speaker 1: But oh yeah, you know, yeah, it'd be their number

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Speaker 1: mean I didn't want to want to leave Claypool off

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Speaker 1: the list. No, No, talent wise, he might not number one.

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Speaker 1: I mean a year from now he might be the

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Speaker 1: easy one. He and Chase are probably the two guys

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Speaker 1: that you look at and go highest upside. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they have the highest ceilings. No, I agree,

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Speaker 1: tight end Um gotta be Andrews. Yeah, kind of by default. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not the best group, even though the Browns are

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Speaker 1: paying their too tight or their tight end room sixty

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Speaker 1: in the in the division. This is optimistic, But could

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Speaker 1: friar Mouth be number one a year from now? Potentially

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Speaker 1: and Andrews have to have a down year and he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he doesn't, doesn't doesn't blocked anybody, and

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Speaker 1: but that wouldn't be that brood over hurdle for a

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Speaker 1: friar Mouth to get over since he's gotten really nothing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they named a flex option just some skill guy, just

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Speaker 1: a skill guy who's not a quarterback. It has to

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Speaker 1: be one of the running backs they picked Mixing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would too. Yeah, I mean I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I would. I wouldn't trade Nausey for Mixing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna put you know, Jamaar Chase in the

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Speaker 1: still fit that mold. I'm fine with that offensive line

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Speaker 1: left tackle Stanley with an asterix. Yeah, I mean Joanah

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Speaker 1: right to left. But I'm gonna go Stanley. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: everybody else in division. Um, let's just do two guards,

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Speaker 1: be con the guards. Both Cleveland guys are good. I

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Speaker 1: Bengals guys. I would take the two Cleveland guards. Can

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Speaker 1: Kevin Dotson get work his way into this conversation? I

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Speaker 1: absolutely think so. I think you can expect him to.

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Speaker 1: I think he has more upside potential, maybe than than

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Speaker 1: any of those guys. Teller's got a lot to work with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fourth throng picked too. I say, yeah, he's when people

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Speaker 1: progress and what the Bills drafted Bills Bills took him

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Speaker 1: and traded him, traded him. Okay, who's your center? I

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Speaker 1: think it's got to be Trader. That's who they picked.

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Speaker 1: If that's not a great that interior brown is pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good. Trader is just okay, it's fine. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: Trader might be the weak link in their offensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's a top ten center to me. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's not on Yeah, he's not boy not every division,

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Speaker 1: but he'd win it. No, but I think that interior

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Speaker 1: line would be your choice. Yeah, I can't argue with that. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The Green could unseen him a year

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Speaker 1: from No, I don't think you know two years from now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe defensive front, who are your two edge guys? Pretty easy? What? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And Myles Garrett pretty good place to start to probably

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Speaker 1: real quick. I threw this out there on my podcast

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Speaker 1: really think even without what, the Steelers edge guys might

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Speaker 1: be top ten the league. Without what. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that pairing is pretty darn good. I think if you

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Speaker 1: have three of them. Yeah, yeah, I mean Garrett's definitely one.

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Speaker 1: don't know that that the the Ravens really have anybody

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Speaker 1: that I'm not accounting. Clay Campbell's an edge, No, he's

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Speaker 1: not an edge Houston. I'd rather Ingram in Houston. I

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Speaker 1: mean he would you throw Clowney on that list. He

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Speaker 1: always a rookie, right right? Anything they go about ten deep, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. I mean i'd have Ingram over Clowney, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Garrett wouldn't be a bad starting point for a defense

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Speaker 1: interior defensive line two or three two cam to it, right,

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Speaker 1: that's who they picked. I'm not sure he was even three.

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Speaker 1: I would consider Campbell and that. Yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 1: closer to those guys, especially at this point in his career. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean he could line up all over, but he's

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Speaker 1: a you know that you're gonna line him up on

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Speaker 1: the edge as much now at five and say hey,

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Speaker 1: you'll get the quarterback. He's not a quick twitch, you know,

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Speaker 1: edge vendor type guy. Now he may be third for

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Speaker 1: me though, Yeah, I think so. But the accles aren't great.

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Speaker 1: Geno's gone. Browns are kind of looking. There's some guys

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Speaker 1: like Matta bout Gay that could be better than this year.

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Speaker 1: I haven't really done anything right. The Browns drafted one

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Speaker 1: what the second third round last year, the Missouri kid.

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Speaker 1: You know, they could be better, but it's got to

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Speaker 1: be Camon to it. I mean, Tyson wouldn't be that

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Speaker 1: far off. Yeah, he's a quality player. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he would be in the mix. Yeah, is it? The

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Speaker 1: Steelers guys? They picked Devin Bush and Anthony Walker from Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know who the hell I say. I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about him. I mean, I I know Bengals

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Speaker 1: fans are more optimistic about their linebackers than anybody you know,

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Speaker 1: But that kid, they can't They're not better in show

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Speaker 1: Bert no queen, I know he was bad, but at

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Speaker 1: least last year l J. Fork got hurt. Right, they're

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Speaker 1: in trouble a little bit. They'd be Queen to step

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Speaker 1: up in a bit. He's got to be that instrumental

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Speaker 1: guy for them. I'm looking here. They got Malik Harrison,

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Speaker 1: I just I just think that he's the perfect Like

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Speaker 1: him because he was exactly what they wanted. Yeah, Chub's

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Speaker 1: thought Harris was turning soon or something. He turned in

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Speaker 1: the spring. Okay, that's a big deal. So two next years,

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Speaker 1: tear off their bodies for their age. I mean of course,

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Speaker 1: who in the league would you trade him for. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking contract age. The Giants call you right now

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Speaker 1: and say we'll send you a Sa Kwan for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can make that trade. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to count on. We just killed Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham for a sort of the same thing. Do it

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Speaker 1: for McCaffrey, he's coming off a big injury too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a special player. I do it for Kamara. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty short list. Elliott, No, No, not. Henry's

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Speaker 1: a lot of weird tear there. Henry's Henry Nelliott. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the there at the wall time. In

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Speaker 1: terms of carries. None of the rookies from last year.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. No, but it's not a bad conversation. Gibson's

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Speaker 1: two unproven. Yeah, I'm just thinking, like first round running backs.

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Speaker 1: Eckler is not every down enough for me, and certainly

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even consider him. And that would be my

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Speaker 1: word with McCaffrey a little. He could handle the wear

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Speaker 1: and tear, but he wouldn't touches two years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would not be a super physical You have to change,

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Speaker 1: You have to change how you use your running backs

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Speaker 1: and your whole scheme, you know. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: great player. I probably would do it for McCaffrey. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do it for McCaffrey, I do it for Kamara.

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Speaker 1: Might be about it, really, I mean might change a

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Speaker 1: year from now if I see Antonio Gibson be awesome,

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Speaker 1: I might consider that. But you also then have a

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Speaker 1: year of watching the right Yeah. I mean, youth is

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Speaker 1: so important at that position. Uh, you know, it's different

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Speaker 1: than wide receiver like Deante and Claypool are really good

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Speaker 1: young players are bright futures. But if you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: me a twenty seven year old receiver that I know

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Speaker 1: is good, of course you make the trade. You know,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill or want Ad or something dig somebody like that,

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Speaker 1: because they just fade away slower. But having a rookie

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Speaker 1: running back, you're gonna be pretty special. I don't think

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Speaker 1: if Harris comes out last year at this time or two,

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Speaker 1: you know, in that draft, he's probably a chief right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they would take him over the way he catches the football,

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Speaker 1: he'd be a much better in past protection. He'd be

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Speaker 1: your short yardage back. They kind of liked the bigger

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Speaker 1: been the first back selected and the Steelers would not

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Speaker 1: consider trading him for Edwards Hi, not even not even Limps.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's still a good young player, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Dobbins is a conversation still. I really

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Speaker 1: like Dobbins. Acres wouldn't have been about Jonathan Taylor. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. He's pretty good. The fumbles are still an issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Harris will always be a better receiver. But

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Speaker 1: Taylor caught gonna run. He's he's fast, faster, faster, he

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Speaker 1: might be stronger, more explode, He's more explosive. Taylor's a

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Speaker 1: conversation more I think about it, you know, just those

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Speaker 1: last year backs for the Steelers. I'd rather have Taylor

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Speaker 1: than Dobbins. Yeah, Taylor be a good Steeler. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he would fit in around here. The Rooneys would

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Speaker 1: like him. Tomlin would like him, you know. And he's

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Speaker 1: got home run and he can catch enough. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I make that trade, but that would be a

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Speaker 1: tough one from you. Again, the thing that we died

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Speaker 1: him on at least I did last year was the fumbles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was the only real different between from me

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Speaker 1: to be a better receiver, not knowing landing spot. He's

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Speaker 1: in a bad spot to catch passes in Baltimore. So

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Speaker 1: are the wide receivers wide receivers and everyone is not

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Speaker 1: a tight end. Yeah. Interesting conversation though, I mean you

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Speaker 1: start looking at how you judge things against the rest

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Speaker 1: of the division or the league, or you know their

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Speaker 1: respective positions. They gets a couple of guys that are highly,

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Speaker 1: highly valuable. Would you trade f Oarmouth for any of

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Speaker 1: the young tight ends not named Pitts or Hawkinson? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have to let me think on that though. Kelsey no, Kiddle, no,

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Speaker 1: Waller No. Yes, kid is still young enough. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a superstar um if he misses some games.

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Speaker 1: So what imagine this offense with Kittle um tight ends? Hawkinson? Yes, Pitts, Yes?

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Speaker 1: How about like Faant No, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. Maybe r Smith maybe, But I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he necessarily fits what they want to do, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's ever gonna be a great blocker.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could come up with more, just because

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough of Friar Mouth to say that

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Speaker 1: he's a star, you know, I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's in this conversation where I mean I would rather

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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard and then Friar Muth. Right now, he's just blocked.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's certainly some guys would rather have,

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Speaker 1: Like at Johnny Smith Higbee. I wouldn't trade Higbee for him.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the contract to remember, right, right, right

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Speaker 1: right Smith contract. That's a good point. That's a good point. No,

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Speaker 1: I would not make that trade for Johnny Smith or

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Speaker 1: Henry So that's interesting. I'm sure we could come up

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Speaker 1: with like eight names, probably but definitely Kittle. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lelly.

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Speaker 1: We want to thank Jacob Breck for keeping us on

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