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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Colts Podcast. I'm Jeffrey Gorman today

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Speaker 1: joined by JJ stank. If it's only Lara Overton on

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Speaker 1: assignment this morning, she will be back next week. JJ

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Speaker 1: boyle boy, it's kind of I'm glad you're sitting on

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Speaker 1: a couch to start this official podcast. Let's get it

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Speaker 1: out right now. The elephant in the room is one

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Speaker 1: of the most disappointing losses in a long time for

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Speaker 1: a Colts team. And I'm comparing this one going back

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty in the playoff game up in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: led by Philip Rivers, a high offense day and stuff

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Speaker 1: like this point kind of a comparison like that, but disappointment.

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Speaker 1: I want to start there because that one was a heartbreaker.

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Speaker 2: I thought about that, Jeffrey, of like, where where does

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Speaker 2: this one kind of rank?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: And I thought about the twenty twenty one loss to

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars, Right, okay, but that game you just got beat.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't a we beat ourselves. We you know, had

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Speaker 2: these you know, critical mistakes, critical moments. That was just you.

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Speaker 2: You got you got boat raced by a team that

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Speaker 2: had won win that year. Right, So I think actually

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Speaker 2: that Buffalo game is a good comparison because you're right

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Speaker 2: there with the Bills to win a playoff game in Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: biggest game the Colts have played in years in that game,

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Speaker 2: and it came down to a couple of mistakes in

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Speaker 2: that game, you know, missed field goal, what was the

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Speaker 2: Komoko Terrey uh off side? So that probably is a

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Speaker 2: good comparison, but just in terms of the like the

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Speaker 2: the gut punch nature of that game. Like, I think

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Speaker 2: about that Jacksonville game because I think if the Colts

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Speaker 2: win this game against Denver, they are cruising right to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, cruising and maybe it's not over Denver, maybe

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Speaker 2: it's over the Chargers. Who knows, but that they are

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Speaker 2: in really good position. And now you the division is gone,

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Speaker 2: the Texans clinched. You have a very narrow but still

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Speaker 2: possible path to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that too, and it is possible,

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Speaker 1: but like.

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Speaker 2: But you had it in your control, and you know

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Speaker 2: you like the plays we're gonna be thinking about for

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Speaker 2: a long time. Are gonna be Jonathan Taylor dropping the

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Speaker 2: ball before the goal line. You're gonna be thinking about

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Speaker 2: the double pass, You're gonna be thinking about Marvin Mimm's

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Speaker 2: sixty one yard return, like, those are the plays that

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Speaker 2: are the reasons why we're sitting here right now being like, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, the playoffs are unlikely at this point.

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Speaker 1: First time since two thousand and seven for a Colts

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Speaker 1: team to have under to have an opponent under two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards and lose the game. Yeah, since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seven. That kind of shows you what that afternoon

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Speaker 1: in Denver was all about. Because let's just go over

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Speaker 1: this thing you talked about the tailor dropt at the

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Speaker 1: goal line. Where does that set the tone after that point?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, you were there, you were in the stadium.

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Speaker 1: As far as setting a tone, We're all saw it

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Speaker 1: like wow, scratching and said, hey, we all miss a

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Speaker 1: stop sign now and again. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all turn on red sometimes when we're not supposed to.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I equated to. It has, you know,

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Speaker 1: a heavy degree of boy, we needed that one, but

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Speaker 1: that's a professional who does that for a living. Had

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Speaker 1: a brain, you know sort of thing. But the tone

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Speaker 1: after that, we saw it, because boy, oh boy, they

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Speaker 1: start rattling off twenty four straight points welcome to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't want to belabor the whole,

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Speaker 2: you know, the mistake part of it, because Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 2: took accountability for it, sure did.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 2: He left no room for excuses, He left no room

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Speaker 2: for explanations. It was just I screwed up. It won't

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Speaker 2: happen again. It never happened before, so he kind of

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Speaker 2: left it there. So I want to leave it there.

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Speaker 2: But I do think to kind of contextualize it being

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Speaker 2: up in that press box in Denver, that crowd was dead,

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Speaker 2: that they went into that game, that the Broncos team,

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Speaker 2: every fan in that stand where an orange and blue

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Speaker 2: was this is the biggest Broncos game since Peyton Manning

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Speaker 2: won him a Super Bowl, well, since the defense won

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Speaker 2: him a super Bowl and Peyton, let's be honest, Peyton's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Peyton won the Super Bowl. That

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Speaker 2: defense was yeah, sure, but regardless, that was the biggest

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Speaker 2: they were falling flat on their face in that game.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nix looked overwhelmed and overmatched. Anthony Richardson was punishing

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Speaker 2: there he goes, there he goes, and you're and that

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Speaker 2: crowd was just the life got sucked out of that

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But then they they splash the replay up on the

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Speaker 1: You hear that, mom, he hear that.

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Speaker 2: You hear that murmur from the crowd of like, oh okay,

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Speaker 2: to will it into existence, right yeah. And then when

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Speaker 2: when the official comes out and says the runner dropped

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Speaker 2: for a touchback, place goes nuts like they just scored

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. And while that didn't turn the game to Denver,

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Speaker 2: because the Colts were able to get get a punt

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Speaker 2: on their next possession that the defense held up, they

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Speaker 2: gave the offense a lot of chances. What it did

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Speaker 2: was it meant the Colts didn't have momentum. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: then kind of no team had it. And then when

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Speaker 2: set up the go ahead touchdown. And then when they

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Speaker 2: got it for good was on the Benito the double passes.

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Speaker 1: Where does the let let's talk about it, because this

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Speaker 1: is another professional and highly paid and grated his craft.

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Speaker 1: The Pittman fumble. I mean that also you're talking about

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Speaker 1: The more the more you.

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Speaker 2: Look at that one, the more I just want to say,

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Speaker 2: that was a good play by p J Yirck.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: I mean the guy, the guy stuck his helmet right

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Speaker 2: known for having ball security issues with the ball in

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Speaker 2: his hands. I think you give credit. You know, those

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that one so much. But the

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Speaker 2: thing that stunk about it was the way that it

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Speaker 2: at that point was like you get a completion, Okay,

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Speaker 2: first down, Bam, balls out, Denver gets it back yep,

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Speaker 2: and that was another gut punch right there, because Denver

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Speaker 2: then they get a field goal out of that. They

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Speaker 2: after the cross interception, so you get this this momentum

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Speaker 2: we're in really good shape still, and then you get that.

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Speaker 2: The defense holds up really well right there. But ultimately,

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Speaker 2: like the short fields, the sudden changes, it just wound

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Speaker 1: JJ. What does Alec Pierce mean to this offense? The

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Speaker 1: reason I'm bringing this up is he was out, he's

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Speaker 1: in concussion protocol, you know, saying our prayers for Alec

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Speaker 1: that he that he's okay, ready to roll. But like,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean for this offense? Because obviously we

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Speaker 1: see ten, we see ad Mitchell getting more reps and

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Speaker 1: such like that. Alec Pearson in training camp, we were saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, boy, he's gonna be a competition in everything.

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Speaker 1: This team, in my opinion, changes when fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Is completely I think that's a really good point and

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Speaker 2: one that I've thought about a little bit more after

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Speaker 2: this game is that losing Alec for the entire second

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Speaker 2: half I think really impacted this offense. And it's not

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Speaker 2: just that you know he is your downfield threat, right,

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Speaker 2: but this year Alec Pierce has been the guy when

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Speaker 2: you throw it up to him, I kind of expect

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Speaker 2: him to come down with it more than anyone on

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Speaker 2: on that ball where he got the concussion on where

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Speaker 2: it's that that deep shot into the end zone. That

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Speaker 2: ball's in the air and I see it's going to fourteen,

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Speaker 2: I'm expecting him to come down here in a way

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Speaker 2: to see Ady Mitchell, Mike plays, Michael Pittman, those guys.

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs has made some of those plays this year.

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Speaker 2: But when that ball's in the air to Alec, I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking he's going to catch it. And to take that

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Speaker 2: who when you need to play, when the Colts needed

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Speaker 2: to play against the Patriots, who did they throw the

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Speaker 2: ball to Alec Pierce? Taking that guy out of this offense,

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Speaker 2: I think did have an impact, and it also it

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Speaker 2: compresses things, makes it a lot harder on Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Denver can play coverage differently when you

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Speaker 2: don't have the threat. I saw Patrick's are ten lined

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Speaker 2: up over aut Pierce a lot in this game, which

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Speaker 2: tells me Denver said, we don't want fourteen to beat

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Speaker 2: us downfield. We're gonna put the best quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: NFL over him and just take him away. That's a

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Speaker 2: sign of respect. But when you take that guy off

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Speaker 2: the field, you can do so much more with your defense,

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Speaker 2: with Patrick's or ten with your coverages that I think

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Speaker 2: we saw really impact.

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Speaker 1: Overall, No big mystery. They stayed away from side of

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Speaker 1: the field for the majority of yes, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Not the one time they threw it even got an intercept, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I want to I want to zero in

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Speaker 1: on Anthony Richardson, Boyle boy playing a great first half

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Speaker 1: the way they did. You talk about what that twenty

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Speaker 1: to seven lead would have been, would have been had

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Speaker 1: that touchdown counted and the momentum. Give me your overall

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Speaker 1: on the big fellow. What what did you like about

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Speaker 1: what he did? What what are some things that you

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Speaker 1: saw in the second half. He goes, you know, you

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Speaker 1: got goose egg in the second half. On the road,

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Speaker 1: it's usually a tough, tough hill to climb. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I couple things on this that I have been thinking about.

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Speaker 2: One is, I think the game got away from the

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Speaker 2: Colts in the second half. Obviously after the JT fumble

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Speaker 2: them to come back from that. Having said that, I

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Speaker 2: think you want Anthony Richardson to be able to be

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Speaker 2: able to pivot and Okay, if we got to throw

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Speaker 2: to win right now, because Denver's not letting us run it.

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Speaker 2: We're getting holding penalties on running plays. You want, you

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Speaker 2: want five to be able to get there. But right now,

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Speaker 2: at this stage in his career, I think it's also

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Speaker 2: okay that he's not there. This is this is not

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Speaker 2: a red flag warning lights that he is not there yet.

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Speaker 2: He's still a very young quarterback. He just started as

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Speaker 2: what thirteenth game in the NFL. That is okay. I

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Speaker 2: am not worried about that. But what I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: Finish and possibly find yourself in a playoffs atmosphere in

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Speaker 2: Ahead, he's so good. Yeah, he's having such a good season.

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Speaker 1: I know it's tough, but get us there. Okay, how

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Speaker 1: we do that?

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Speaker 2: All right? So it starts with winning out. You go

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Speaker 2: three to zero, you at least put some heat on

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Speaker 2: the La Chargers. They're the team you're chasing. Now, you're

436
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Speaker 2: not really chasing the Broncos. Yes, if Denver loses out

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Speaker 2: and you win out, Denver has the head to head tiebreaker.

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Speaker 2: Now okay, here, I'm trying to figure out where to

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Speaker 2: go with this. First, Let's start with the Chargers. The

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Speaker 2: Chargers are eight and six. They just got boat raced

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Speaker 2: at home by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They lost forty

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Speaker 2: to seventeen. If the Denver Broncos beat the Chargers, that

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Speaker 2: game's at Sofi Stadium on Thursday night, Thursday night this week.

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Speaker 2: That games at Sofi where the Charger is just lost

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Speaker 2: by twenty three points. If Denver goes in and wins

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Speaker 2: that game and the Colts beat the Titans, now you're

447
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Speaker 2: talking about just a one game gap, because guess what,

448
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Speaker 2: the Colts will own every tiebreaker over the Chargers in

449
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Speaker 2: head to head. If there are multiple teams involved, the

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Speaker 2: Colts will own the tiebreaker based on conference record. So

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Speaker 2: that means the heats on the Chargers to win one

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Speaker 2: of their last two games if they or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: they would need to win both of their last two

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Speaker 2: games if they lose this game to Denver. So the

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Speaker 2: Chargers finish the season, though they got a kind of

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Speaker 2: a pillowy soft end of the season. They go to

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Speaker 2: New England, they go to the Raiders. Those are both

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Speaker 2: road games, so you know, bit of chance there, but

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Speaker 2: those are, let's be frank, those are two of the

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Speaker 2: worst teams in the Patriots and the Raiders. So if

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Speaker 2: the Charger, if there's any shot at the Colts making

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, the Chargers probably gotta lose on Thursday night

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Speaker 2: to the Broncos. The other route here, the one that

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Speaker 2: is more difficult to and look, there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of detours that the Colts got to follow right now,

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Speaker 2: but the Colts have to win out. All these are

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Speaker 2: what the Colts winning out. Here's how the Colts can

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Speaker 2: still make the playoffs at nine and eight. With the

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Speaker 2: Broncos going nine and eight, a third team has to

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Speaker 2: go nine and eight, So Let's say the Colts, so

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Speaker 2: the Broncos have to lose out. So Broncos lose on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: they lose on the road to the Bengals. They lose

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Speaker 2: at home to the Chiefs to end the season. Not

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Speaker 2: impossible to envision based on how Denver kind of played

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Speaker 2: against the Colts in the game. If that happens, the

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Speaker 2: Colts go nine and eight. Obviously, if it's just the

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Speaker 2: Colts and Broncos at nine and eight, Broncos make sure.

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Speaker 2: But say the Cincinnati Bengals, so they beat the Broncos

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Speaker 2: in that stretch. Let's say the Bengals win out. That

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Speaker 2: means the Bengals are nine and eight, the Broncos are

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Speaker 2: nine and eight, the Colts are nine and eight, the

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Speaker 2: Colts make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Why how's that? Because you get Denver. Explain that one.

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Speaker 2: It goes to conference record as the tiebreaker, the top

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Speaker 2: tiebreaker because Denver, because the Colts have not played Cincinnati, right,

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Speaker 2: So there and Denver Denver. For Denver to do that,

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Speaker 2: they would have to have wins over And I don't

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Speaker 2: think the Broncos have played the Bengals this year either.

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Speaker 2: They played the Ravens. So yeah, no, So that that's

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Speaker 2: why is that Denver would not have wins over the

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Speaker 2: Colts in the Bengals. The Bengals have not played the Colts.

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Speaker 2: So it goes to conference tiebreaker, conference record tiebreaker, which

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Speaker 2: the Colts, if they went out, they will have a

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Speaker 2: better conference record than the Broncos and the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: And there's nine and eight Broncos and there's nine and

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Speaker 1: eight Colts and the Colts.

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Speaker 2: The same, by the way, goes for if the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: up to nine and eight, or if it's Broncos Chargers Colts,

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Speaker 2: the Colts would which is possible, not unlikely, but possible. Actually,

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Speaker 2: if it's Broncos Chargers Cults too, the Colts would get

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Speaker 2: the six seed. So a lot it would have to

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Speaker 2: happen here, like a lot. But it is not over yet.

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Speaker 2: And I think the thing that if you're still rooting

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Speaker 2: for this, which I totally understand, by the way, if

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Speaker 2: like you're a Colts fan and you're just like, I

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Speaker 2: can't I can't get my heat around this yet, totally

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Speaker 2: get it. But it's my job to kind of look

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Speaker 2: at this stuff and kind of be aware of it.

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Speaker 2: So if you're looking at this Thursday night game, you

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Speaker 2: probably want the Broncos to win because now you put

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Speaker 2: the heat on the Chargers. And look, if the Chargers

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Speaker 2: beat the Patriots, you go and you beat the Titans

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Speaker 2: and the Giants, you go into Week eighteen. There's a

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Speaker 2: chance that the Colts are kicking off against the Jags

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Speaker 2: at four to twenty five to play at the same

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Speaker 2: time as the Chargers, because the NFL might want those

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Speaker 2: games playing at the same time. So you know, if

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Speaker 2: the Colts go beat the you know you want to have, right,

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Speaker 2: you want those games kicking off at the same time.

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Speaker 2: So the Chargers game means something, the Colts game means something,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we could be really scoreboard watching that

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Speaker 2: game Chargers in Las Vegas. That hey, I mean, stranger

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Speaker 2: things have happened absolutely. Twenty twenty one, the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: went into the final week of the season being like,

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Speaker 2: there's no way the Cults are losing to the Jaguars, right,

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Speaker 2: and they snuck into the playoffs. Stranger things can happen, man,

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Speaker 2: the stranger things can hand.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit confusing, but if you

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Speaker 1: do want to find out what the latest is the

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Speaker 1: playoff chances, follow JJ on Twitter on Twitter x if

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Speaker 1: you will at JJ Stankmans. Of course you can read

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Speaker 1: them on Colts dot com and watch them as well.

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Speaker 1: Keep us updated the next three weeks. Because we keep winning,

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Speaker 1: everybody's going to be asking. That's the bottom line. Here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. Win. That's what you have to do. Most

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Speaker 1: important thing to do. You'll win. You go into Lucas

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Speaker 1: Oil Stadium, you take care of business this week, you

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Speaker 1: go on the road, come back to Lucas, take care

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Speaker 1: of business. So it is there's still a slight chance.

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Speaker 1: But this crazy NFL. JJ I'm really optimistic and I

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Speaker 1: hope that Shane Stikeen's in the back right now telling

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Speaker 1: his guys, Hey, we got to play with our pants

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Speaker 1: on fire, because anything can happen in this NFL. We

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Speaker 1: have to have a three game winning streak to really

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Speaker 1: put a cherry on this season. Obviously, you said it earlier,

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Speaker 1: like Joe WRIGHTSID said, you want to finish with a

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Speaker 1: winning record. You want to finish on a high note.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, don't forget you can get

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Speaker 1: into the dance and if you have a chip in

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Speaker 1: a chair, anything can happen in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and look like I understand if you don't

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Speaker 2: want to be opt if you're if you're watching this,

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Speaker 2: you're disappointed, I don't want to hear this. You like, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: that's how you should feel right now. You should be disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm just gonna say, don't don't just pack it

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Speaker 2: in yet. If we get to week eighteen and the

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Speaker 2: Colts are sitting there at eight and eight and the

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Speaker 2: Chargers are sitting there at nine and seven, just it

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Speaker 2: could it could mean something. And maybe you're sitting there

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Speaker 2: at home watching this or listening to this in your

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Speaker 2: car or whatever, and you're thinking, does it really matter

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Speaker 2: if the Colts make the playoffs at nine and eight?

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Speaker 2: Does it feel like you back in and you go

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo, you know, or you go to Pittsburgh, or

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Speaker 2: you go to camp, whatever it might be. But it

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Speaker 2: does matter. It does matter to the fifty three guys

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Speaker 2: on this team. It matters to the coaches, it matters

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Speaker 2: to the front office, and that that it'll count for

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Speaker 2: something if you do make the playoffs. It's a big if,

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Speaker 2: but it is.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: The odds are very low. I want to make that clear.

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Speaker 2: They're very low. A lot has to happen, but don't

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Speaker 2: pack it in just yet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, time for the Homer portion of this. Who wants

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Speaker 1: that we do? I'm going deeper than that. Even Listen,

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Speaker 1: if you have a three game winning streak and you're

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs with a drive because the Chargers

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Speaker 1: are helping you somehow, who wants to play Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: and the Colts offense right there on a three game

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Speaker 1: hot streak. I'm saying. I'm just saying, if you want

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Speaker 1: to find some optimism there, it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think any team that makes the

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Speaker 2: playoffs is going to be a tough opponent.

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Speaker 1: It is going on the road, like you said, to

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Speaker 1: potentially Buffalo or something.

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Speaker 2: But I think I think Buffalo is the best team

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, so that would be tough. I think Buffalo, though.

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, I don't think Buffalo is scared

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Speaker 2: of any team in the NFL. Give me went into

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Speaker 2: Detroit and won forty eight forty two. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't think Buffalo would be scared of any team coming

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Speaker 2: into their house.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's flip the switch, because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the AFC right now, but we can talk

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Speaker 1: about the NFC about who we think over there. If

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Speaker 1: I take away Philly and I take away Detroit, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I take them away. Who am I still leery of

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Speaker 1: of a team that can come out of the NF

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Speaker 1: screen Bay, Okay, okay, Jordan Love and the boys.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen those stats about Jordan Love during Toyotathan?

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 2: Google? Google Jordan Love Toyotathan. It's one of the funniest

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Speaker 2: things I've ever seen?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: How good he is during Toyotathan? He's got He's got

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Speaker 2: like twenty five touchdowns and three interceptions. This makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: This means absolutely nothing. But since we're on a colts

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Speaker 2: podcast talking about the Packers and Medals, will bring up

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Speaker 2: his stats during hired him?

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Speaker 1: Yet they should? Yeah? Yeah, uh how do you come

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Speaker 1: up with the stats?

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, but I I kind of like the Packers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like what they're doing. Their defense is really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're they're kind of coming on strong about Sammy Darnold.

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Speaker 2: What about Minnesota that you know what? Minnesota's fun? I

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Speaker 2: think they're gonna have a good defense that NFC. Man,

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Speaker 2: it is we're not even talking about Washington with Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: Maybe rolling into the playoffs. Uh, you know Tampa all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden they have just speaking of the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: how Tampa went in and won that game. That's one

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Speaker 2: of the more impressive wins this year against a Chargers

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Speaker 2: defense that's really good. To put up forty on them.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield man, say what you will.

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Speaker 2: There are some there're some good teams, yeah, in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: And you know, while we're talking about the Colts trying

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Speaker 2: to sneak into the playoffs as a seventh seat, there's

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Speaker 2: not a single team in the NFC. It's can sneak

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Speaker 2: into the playoffs right right? You know those are teams

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Speaker 2: that are tuned up. And but okay, just to zoom

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Speaker 2: out a little bit, how funny is the NFL that

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Speaker 2: a year ago we're looking at the AFC and you're

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Speaker 2: looking at Alan Mahomes, Jackson Burrow, Herbert Lawrence Tua. You're like,

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Speaker 2: my gosh, how are you stroud it coming off last year?

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Speaker 2: My gosh, how are we going to compete in this conference?

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Speaker 2: And now the AFC looks a little bit weaker. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they got the best team in Buffalo. But then you

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Speaker 2: go over to the NFC and you're like juggernaut, juggernaut.

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Speaker 2: I think Philly might be the best team in the

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Speaker 2: NFC right now because all those injuries to Detroit. Detroit,

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Speaker 2: though they're a juggernaut on offense, Philly's a great team.

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Speaker 2: That Vikings are a great team, The Packers are a

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Speaker 2: great team. You got Washington coming on strong, Tampa looks

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Speaker 2: really good, like and all of a sudden, here come

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Speaker 2: the La Rams of Sean McVay, you know, potentially out

646
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: of the West like that NFC is gonna be loaded

647
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: in a way that we thought the AFC was gonna be.

648
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: So never never assume you know a lot about how

649
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: a season's gonna go, about the strengths of a team

650
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: of a conference, of a division, because it can flip

651
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: real quick.

652
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I remember, I don't remember. Well, I shouldn't say this, boy,

653
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting old. But there was a certain play that

654
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: Jake Plumber completed a touchdown pass for the Cardinals that

655
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: sprung in upset in week sixteen ninety seven and allowed

656
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: the Colts to get the number one overall pick and

657
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: obviously Peyton Manning. So like anything can happen, is my point.

658
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: At the NFL, especially over the course of the three

659
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: games which is a marathon. So I like your optimism

660
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: and staying up. But at the end of the day, boy,

661
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: you're getting my juices flowing because nothing beats playoff football.

662
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: And now we're talking NFC and we're talking about AFC

663
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, but that's going to be coming up in

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Speaker 1: a weeks. I hope we do talk a lot of playoffs. Yeah,

665
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: through that, whether the Colts are part part of it

666
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: or not, I want you please to do that. I

667
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: talked about the give us hope section there when it

668
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: comes to the playoffs. But JJ just foundationally speaking, foundationally

669
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: speaking of the Indianapolis Colts, I want some names, and

670
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Colts fans you're gonna know him, but just give me

671
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: a handful of names that you're encouraged about. The foundation

672
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: of young players. I know Quenton Nelson is a great

673
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: foundation piece here, but I'm not talking about q I'm

674
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: not talking about Zaire Franklin right now. Some young foundational

675
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: pieces to look forward to because twenty twenty five is

676
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: right around the corner. Obviously we're gonna get through twenty

677
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: twenty four and this playoff season, but I'm saying like

678
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Speaker 1: next year, foundationally.

679
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: Speaking, yeah, I mean we already talked about Anthony Richardson

680
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: and how I think he probably deserves that that next shot.

681
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: Josh Towns is right up there. You've got a really

682
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: good left tackle in Bernard Rayman.

683
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Speaker 1: Nice.

684
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: I think you've seen some good things out of Macknsalvaz.

685
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: So you've got young tackles on either side that I

686
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: think you should feel pretty good about. Defensively speaking, you know,

687
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: I think you've seen some flashes from Layatu Latu this year.

688
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: We talked about Nick Cross, Jalen Jones, I think has

689
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: had a really solid season. So you've got some guys

690
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: there that you know, you you you could look at

691
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: next year is could they take another step for it?

692
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: We talked about Alet Pierce, same thing. Uh, these guys

693
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: are all in rookie contracts, so they're gonna be inexpensive

694
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: to build your team around. With your vets like Quentin Nelson,

695
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: DeForrest Buckner, Zire Franklin, Uh, you know, Michael Pittman, those guys,

696
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. So you know that the Colts are gonna

697
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: have some work to do this offseason, certainly, but it's

698
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: not a baron cupboard, and it's a team that with

699
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: some you know, some of the right moves in the offseason.

700
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely could go ahead and be a contentment.

701
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: With short your thoughts. I know I'm coming out of

702
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: left field, but Mark Lewinsky, are we giving him a

703
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: second consecutive at a boy? After his performances saying and

704
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: what do you do with a guy like Glow who's

705
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: in his thirties And I know he's you know, on

706
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: the thing, but boy, you have a veteran presence.

707
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: He's yeah, you don't what to forget about Will Fryes though, Yeah,

708
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: when when Will Fryes got hurt? He was playing some

709
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: of the best football in the NFL for.

710
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: For another foundational piece, for gosh, a guy.

711
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: Who his contract is up, he's gonna be a free agent,

712
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: but you know you could could you bring him back

713
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: coming off the injury. It's a pretty serious injury that

714
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: he had. But you know, he's been in the building.

715
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: I've seen him around here, walk past the training room

716
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: here in Springsteen blasting. There's Will Fries and they're getting

717
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: some work here, you know, and also just a good

718
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: guy to have around the locker room too. Could you

719
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: bring Will Fries back to you know, maybe be a

720
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: right card next year. We'll see how that plays out

721
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: in the off season.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you mentioned it. We'll we'll get into this in

723
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: the off season. But Dio Dangbo is another guy that's

724
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna he'll be a free agent free agent Will Fries.

725
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: You want to who am I missing on that? Because

726
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: we will have plenty of time.

727
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it right in front of me,

728
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 2: but Moley Cox, Julian Blackman, uh, Ryan Kelly, I think

729
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: I would have to pull that up in front of me.

730
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: But we'll got plenty of time to talk about We

731
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: will have plenty of time to talk about that.

732
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Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Obviously a disappointment that comes in,

733
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: but we're still looking at the bright skies and and

734
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: the blue skies of Indianapolis being Hey, let this team

735
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: do what they have to do the final three weeks

736
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: of the season to take care of business, and whether

737
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: that means a playoff birth or not, you really do

738
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: want to go into twenty twenty five. I'm not overlooking

739
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: these playoffs, but I'm just saying I'm the upswing like that,

740
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: and especially to get five home and at the rate

741
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: that he needs to, so I know I'm encouraged after this.

742
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: I know it's a different podcast, and if we end

743
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: up going Nicolet will end up beating the Broncos. But

744
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: I am encouraged. I'm I'm encouraged about this team this year.

745
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged about this team next year with the leadership

746
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: and to watch an Anthony Richardson grow.

747
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: I will say this though, like I don't know if

748
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: right now I like your optimism. I don't know if

749
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: right now I'm feeling encouraged. But I think we can

750
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: realistically look at this, like when you kind of remove

751
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: the emotion and the negative just oh, god sucked feeling

752
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: about losing that game, I think you can kind of

753
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: take like a realistic look at this and say, Okay,

754
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: it's maybe not as bad as it seems, but right

755
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 2: now it is okay. If you're listening to this, you're

756
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: watching this in your feeling like I don't want to

757
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: hear these guys talk about it. Yeah, there's a lot

758
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: of your sunshine and rainbows.

759
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it.

760
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: We'll be right here for when you're ready to come back.

761
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 2: But right now, if you're just like I don't want

762
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: to hear this, that's fine.

763
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: I guess it is. I gets appointed we're disappointed, and

764
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: we even talked about that coming up as like, oh

765
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: this show today, we wanted it to be so different.

766
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: So great stuff. Man, let's do this and let's keep

767
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: this thing rolling. We're gonna be coming at Yell off

768
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: season as well. Follow him on Twitter x at JJ stankomits,

769
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: and of course you got the latest and greatest from

770
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Colts dot com that always keeps you up to to

771
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: the latest as far as Colts happenings go. Okay, I

772
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: just want to end on a high note. I call

773
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: it what would JJ do wwjj D. I'm switching gears

774
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: on this because I found something out about you this

775
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: morning that I was uh, you know, it was pretty

776
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: like an a boy JJ way to go. You got yourself.

777
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I want you to sell the community of Colts fans

778
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: out there in Indianapolis on why pickleball is such a

779
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: great winter sport. By the way, coming off a huge

780
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: win the other night, I think you were over at

781
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: where'd you play that one?

782
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: Where you uh so I was able to sub in

783
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: for are our PR team?

784
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: How about that duo? That's what I'm talking about.

785
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: We we Matt Contey and I ran the table. We

786
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: went fun.

787
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: You're like Glewinsky. We picked you right off the street,

788
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: like there sit you into the starting lineup.

789
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: And like like Mark Lewinsky, I was training as well,

790
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: you know, playing a little pick a ball? It's great, Go.

791
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: Ahead, sell us. Why why should everybody play, especially this

792
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: winter because there's a plenty of indoor courts.

793
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, why should everybody play pick a ball? It's fun?

794
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it's like I like it

795
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: because I was never good at tennis, so I was

796
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: just like, I'll pick you know, pick this up. It's

797
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: super easy to get the hang of. You don't need

798
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: to be really skilled at it. You just you know,

799
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: you need to pick up a paddle and go have

800
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: some fun.

801
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: I see you as a Greg Maddox type guy. I'm

802
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: taking that analogy as a picture. He's gonna pick his spots,

803
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: throw a little curve on here, throw a little Scroogey

804
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: on here. Is at you with the with the.

805
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: So uh uh Greg, Greg Maddox is probably a little

806
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: too generous for me. But I will okay, I am

807
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: going to actually take this in a different direction because

808
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: I want to share this. I know Lara occasionally on

809
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 2: this podcast has been like I had this really weird

810
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: dream last night. Yeah, so I had this really weird

811
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: dream last year we got that. You want to know

812
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: where because if you've made it to this point of

813
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: the podcast, thank you, by the way, you're a diehard.

814
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: So this is where my brain went last night. I

815
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: have no idea why. I legitimately had a dream that

816
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: I was watching in Oakland Athletics versus Toronto Blue Jays

817
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: game in probably two thousand and two. I was wearing

818
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: a Barry Zito jersey. Remember Barry Zito big over her ball,

819
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: one of my favorite pictures growing up. But Mark Mulder

820
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: was starting for the Oakland A's and Carlo still Gotto

821
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: hit a five hundred foot home run off him.

822
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Just a tank in your dream.

823
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: In my dream, I'm dreaming about Barry Zito, Mark Mulder

824
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: and Carlo still got I love. My brain is like, hey,

825
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: you know what you need to do. You need to

826
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: remember some guys. Remember those guys. And I woke up

827
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: in a great mood thinking about ah remember, and I

828
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: woke up with a cold. I'm all congested. Just you know,

829
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: my kids are yelling.

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00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: At meat dream.

831
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Speaker 2: But ah, man, remember those guys. These guys are awesome.

832
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Where did Dougado Chase take that shot? Where did he

833
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: take him? It was? I mean was for some reason?

834
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: It was at Chase Stadium. I think it's because I

835
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: went to bed watching a highlight of Mova and hitting

836
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: a tank at Chase Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Employer.

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00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I follow account on Instagram. That's just like old

839
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: home runs.

840
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Can I ask?

841
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: Can I ask why are we talking about? I have

842
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: no idea.

843
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: What can I ask our controlled studio owners before we

844
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: say goodbye to Ava and a man? Can you help

845
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: me with this? I don't remember my dreams.

846
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: Like once or twice, rarely do once or twice a year.

847
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: I'll wake up and I'll go, wow, I had you,

848
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: But I don't remember my dreams a youngster. When I

849
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: was young, I did. I remember dreams and stuff, but

850
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't. This was So what does that mean about me? Yeah?

851
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Regular dreams, you know, but.

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00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: Like I most like ninety nine percent. But I guess

853
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: if I'm, you know, remembering some guys like tomorrow, I'm

854
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: gonna wake up and be like, I had this awesome

855
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: dream about Vinie Castilla, I.

856
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: Will I love the Baseball Off Sea's a baseball podcast

857
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: with you. Let's get out of here before it gets

858
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: too late. JJ s it already got too late. It

859
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: is a little bit at Twitter ax. You can follow

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Speaker 1: him at JJ Stegmitz and of course at Colts dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Let's go. It is time, three games,

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Speaker 1: the run starts. There's a white out this weekend at

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Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium. Go on the road to the Big

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Speaker 1: Apple and after that right back at home. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: We got to take care of business, most important thing.

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Speaker 1: Win three in a row. But it starts this weekend

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Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. Thanks for staying up late and

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Speaker 1: watching this thing, JJ. Good stuff. As always, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you all next week.