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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with the.

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Speaker 1: Story of the week in Kentucky a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: this man had overdosed on drugs and his family brought

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Speaker 1: him to the hospital. So shortly after arriving, the doctors

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Speaker 1: told his relatives that he lacked any reflexes or brain

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Speaker 1: activity and they had to make the really difficult decision

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Speaker 1: to take him off of life support. So the doctors

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Speaker 1: then told the family that he had requested to be

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Speaker 1: an organ donor upon his death. Can you explain that

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Speaker 1: process for everybody between you know, a patient dying and

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Speaker 1: then them getting their organs harvested, Well.

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Speaker 2: You can opt into being So we have this system

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Speaker 2: that's different than a lot of other countries, which is,

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Speaker 2: no one in America is an organ donor unless you

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Speaker 2: decide that you want to be an organ donor, or

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Speaker 2: your family decides if they want to donate your organs.

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Speaker 2: So I know a lot of you have probably had

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Speaker 2: that question asked to you when you're getting your driver's

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Speaker 2: license and or some kind of legal documentation like that.

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Speaker 2: So he probably had it on his driver's license that

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Speaker 2: he wanted to be an organ donor, so don't ask

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Speaker 2: the family. Then you know he wanted to be an

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Speaker 2: organ donor, would you consider donating his organs? And then

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Speaker 2: the family agreed to it. So the next process is

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Speaker 2: that they're going to see if these organs are good

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Speaker 2: enough to be transplanted into a person that needs them. Now,

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Speaker 2: in America alone, there are over one hundred thousand people

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Speaker 2: that are on this transplant list for various different organs, livers, hearts, kidneys.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people need an organ, and I

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Speaker 2: do hear a lot of people asking the question, well,

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Speaker 2: this person was was a drug addict, why would you

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Speaker 2: want their organs? But if their organ works fine and

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Speaker 2: you have one that's failing and you're going to die

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Speaker 2: because of it, you will take an organ from someone, right.

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Speaker 2: So part of the procedure is that they have to

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Speaker 2: biop see the organs to make sure that they look

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Speaker 2: good under the microscope, they look healthy and viable and

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Speaker 2: that they're going to last inside of the person that

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Speaker 2: they're going to transplant them into. And so that's how

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Speaker 2: they figure out if these organs are good or not

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Speaker 2: because a lot of times people say they want to

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Speaker 2: donate their organs, and let's say they die from a

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Speaker 2: really bad infection or something, and they say, okay, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to use your organ or cancer or something

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Speaker 2: like that. So the next process, unfortunately is a little

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Speaker 2: bit morbid. But once a person is declared brain dead,

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Speaker 2: they're still kept alive on the machine, which means that

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Speaker 2: their heart is still beating just because the machine is

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Speaker 2: doing it. Their body isn't doing it anymore because they're

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Speaker 2: technically considered dead, okay, And then that's how they have

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Speaker 2: to harvest the organs, because if they allow oxygen to

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Speaker 2: stop going into the heart, it's going to be the

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Speaker 2: same effect as like a heart attack or something. There's

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Speaker 2: going to be death to the heart muscle and it

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Speaker 2: won't be good anymore. So they keep the blood pumping

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Speaker 2: through it so it's good to take out for a transplant.

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Speaker 1: So about an hour later, after he goes back into

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Speaker 1: out and tells his sister that he's quote not ready yet.

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Speaker 2: So I think what happened this is because I know

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Speaker 2: that the articles have been worded a little weird. I

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Speaker 2: think they declared him dead. They said, well, he'd be

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Speaker 2: an organ donor. Yes, okay, So they were taking him

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Speaker 2: I was saying, to buy up see the organs. In

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Speaker 2: this case, they were trying to take his heart. So

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Speaker 2: they were doing a cardiac cathorization, which is when they

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Speaker 2: As he was being wheeled to this room back there,

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Speaker 2: the sister said that his eyes were following her as

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Speaker 2: if he was still alert and awake. They and they

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Speaker 2: assured her that he was having reflexes. So when he

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Speaker 2: So that's the first alarm. And then I guess some

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Speaker 2: the transplant surgeons were like, I'm not touching this dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so essentially, he was awake when this

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Speaker 2: He seemed to be semi conscious. They even said that

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Speaker 1: It's horrible. So after all of this goes down, they

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Speaker 1: and make sure he's comfortable, but understand that he's probably

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Speaker 1: not going to live much longer. She has been caring

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Speaker 2: He's still alive.

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Speaker 1: He's still alive. So she's been caring for him for

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Speaker 1: three years, and she didn't find out all the details

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Speaker 1: a hospital employee contacted her and told her exactly what

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Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes. So this story just makes me

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Speaker 1: sad for many reasons. It's like, you're living through you

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Speaker 1: know this already trauma, thinking that your sibling has died,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they undergo this horrific,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's totally back to normal. He's not

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Speaker 2: Well, this reminds me of a story that we talked

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Speaker 2: about back in May of this year, or maybe even

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Speaker 2: was it. Yeah, it was on May twenty, first episode

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Speaker 2: that we talked about it. It was the first thing

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Speaker 2: waiting a little bit longer to take people off life

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Speaker 2: And it was really really addressed it, like very very

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Speaker 2: striking study that said that they compared all of these

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Speaker 2: patients and most of them ended up dying after they

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Speaker 2: were taken off of life support, right, but they said

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Speaker 1: So is so high, I know.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's like, it is scary because if they

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Speaker 2: strongly reiterate that organ harvesting is ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 2: the time a really good thing. And there's one hundred

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Speaker 2: of stories like scare the shit out of people and

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Speaker 2: which makes sense because it really does sound horrific. But

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Speaker 2: I think this is just like a freak once in

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Speaker 1: You know, I can see that, and you know, the

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to think that there's a whole entire

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Speaker 2: more often you would hear about it because anybody that

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Speaker 2: longer need their organs. Nobody's trying to hurt anybody, and

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Speaker 2: people wouldn't brush this under the rug. Ever, So the

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Speaker 2: It would be happening all the time if it was happening. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still an organ donor. This story sucks,

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Speaker 2: but I just think it's just like a freak thing

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Speaker 2: and it's not the norm. That's all I want to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it doesn't help because I feel like we get,

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Speaker 1: and all this. I think that this story isn't helping

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Speaker 1: that cause. But you need to understand that donating your

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Speaker 2: So and I personally know someone that had two heart

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, let's get onto some celebrity. So we

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Speaker 1: have some updates about Liam Payne. So last week we

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Speaker 2: So the bottom line is that his cause of death

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Speaker 2: So now the question is, with the further information that's

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Speaker 1: Was he suicidal?

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Speaker 2: Did he have suicidal ideations, the history of depression, any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we did a really, really thoroughly detailed

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Speaker 1: But scary, It is really scary. This episode is brought

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Speaker 2: just thousands of articles that occurred way before Mother Knows

438
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443
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Speaker 2: have it on sale right now, but.

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Speaker 1: It's fifty five dollars for the year, So that's a

445
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Speaker 1: really great deal. And it's, you know, like Herpes, the

446
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Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving. So yeah, it's it's not

447
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Speaker 1: like a one time thing. It's just like we update

448
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Speaker 1: the website every day and stop. So I think they'll

449
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Speaker 1: definitely love it. And you can visit the Grossroom dot

450
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Speaker 1: com for more info and to sign up.

451
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Speaker 2: Okay, true crime, all right, So.

452
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Speaker 1: Not surprisingly, this next story happened in Philadelphia. So around

453
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Speaker 1: four am, about two Saturdays ago, this guy was shot

454
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Speaker 1: multiple times throughout his body. So a car with a

455
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Speaker 1: group of three guys had picked up the victim and

456
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Speaker 1: pulled up to the ambulance bay at a nearby hospital.

457
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Speaker 1: They got out of the car and ran in, begging

458
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Speaker 1: the nurses to help the victim in the car. So

459
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: they came out with a hospital security guy and they were,

460
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Speaker 1: you know, working to help the victim and try to

461
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Speaker 1: get him on a gurney. In the meantime, the three

462
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: other guys noticed that a cop car pulled up up

463
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: and freaked out and jumped back in the car. And

464
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Speaker 1: then we're trying to flee. And when they were trying

465
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Speaker 1: to flee, they hit all three nurses, giving them serious injuries.

466
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Speaker 2: Do you know one of our really good friends works here.

467
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Speaker 1: No.

468
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really sucks and it's so scary. I mean,

469
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Speaker 2: she wasn't there obviously at four o'clock in the morning

470
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: or whenever. This happened. But these three nurses, they were

471
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Speaker 2: all three male nurses. One of them is in critical

472
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: condition after getting this injury, had internal injuries. I mean,

473
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 2: obviously getting hit by a car. But how messed up

474
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: is that that someone that you go in and recruit

475
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Speaker 2: people to come help your friend, and you're just like, oh,

476
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: the cops are coming, and me, MEI me, it's gonna

477
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: get in trouble, like if everyone else around here, like

478
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get away from this. It's so messed up.

479
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Speaker 1: It's really messed up, and it just like on so

480
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: many levels it doesn't make sense to me, Like if

481
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Speaker 1: you like, of course you're going to get questioned if

482
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Speaker 1: somebody is shot, what are you thinking?

483
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Speaker 2: So I was thinking that too, Like you cared that

484
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: much about your friend to drop them off to get

485
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Speaker 2: some help, but then you're not doing anything, like you

486
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 2: almost ran him over to and killed the nurses. I mean,

487
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Speaker 2: it just doesn't make any sense.

488
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Speaker 1: No, And it's like really shitty for these people that

489
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: are trying to save a life that you just have

490
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: total disregard for human life and you're like, fuck this,

491
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm selfish, I'm gonna do what I need to do,

492
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: and guess what, idiots, you got caught anyway, So like,

493
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Speaker 1: what was the point of hurting.

494
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: And in a lot more trouble?

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah a lot, yeah, significantly more trouble. Oh that you

496
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: know what, They hit their friend too, So it's like

497
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Speaker 1: you took all the straw.

498
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Speaker 2: They actually hit the guy.

499
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Speaker 1: They hit three of the nurses and the victim. So,

500
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Speaker 1: my god, you take all these steps to try to

501
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: help your friend out when you either could have just

502
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Speaker 1: called an ambulance to where the shooting happened, or just like,

503
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Speaker 1: if you were so scared of getting in trouble, just

504
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Speaker 1: drop them off and put them on a bench. Somebody

505
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: would have found them, right. So you're taking all these

506
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Speaker 1: steps and then you just completely undone the good deed

507
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: you tried to do and made it a thousand times

508
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Speaker 1: worse for yourself.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a moron.

510
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: So they idd the they turned themselves in so good ones, idiots.

511
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Speaker 1: It's like so rude.

512
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Speaker 2: This next story is so outrageous.

513
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Speaker 1: All right, So this ten year old had intentionally dropped

514
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Speaker 1: a two month old baby on the ground, which gave

515
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Speaker 1: the baby serious injuries. And then I guess, upon investigating,

516
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: like why would this child do this? I'm thinking Lucia

517
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Speaker 1: is ten years old. I can't imagine a world in

518
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Speaker 1: which she would just take a baby and intentionally try

519
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: to hurt it. They found out this kid was talking

520
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 1: to this woman on roadblocks who was instructing the child

521
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Speaker 1: how to kill the infant, and also the adults in

522
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Speaker 1: the home.

523
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Speaker 2: Did they say who this lady was? Is she just

524
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Speaker 2: like a Rando stranger or is she like the kids?

525
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: At like? What's going on there?

526
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Speaker 1: So at the end of this news article we're referencing,

527
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Speaker 1: it said that the connection between the adult, the child,

528
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Speaker 1: and the infant were all unclear. So at first I

529
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Speaker 1: was thinking this was the sibling of this kid, but

530
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: that's also not clearly established. But regardless, why is there

531
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: no measures in place to avoid this from happening? This

532
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: is a child's game.

533
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: I hear about this often, that there's especially older people

534
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: that are playing and taking advantage of children. It's usually

535
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: like a sex predator scenario when we hear about adults

536
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: talking to kids on roadbox. In my personal experience, whenever

537
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: my kids get blocked on roadblocks, which happens from time

538
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: to time, believe it or not, it's all whenever I

539
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 2: read like the comments that they left. I think I

540
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: laugh out loud because they're just so like not violent,

541
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: not threatening. It'll just it'll it'll be like, for example,

542
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: one time, Luccio was talking to Lillian about something with

543
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: dinner and getting daddy and blah blah blah, and it said, like,

544
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: I guess the word daddy automatically triggered this like inappropriate

545
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: sexual content or something. It was ridiculous, and Gabe and

546
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Speaker 2: I actually, you know, I'll send pictures to him once

547
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: in a while and we kind of laugh about it

548
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: because we're like, okay, whatever, right. So I haven't personally

549
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: experienced that with my kids playing, but I do tell

550
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: them all the time that they don't know that the

551
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: people that they're playing with, if they're adults or not.

552
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: But to think that some of the things that she

553
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: was saying to this child to do to this this

554
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: little baby were to drown the baby in a bathtub,

555
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: burn the burn the baby, drop hot water on the baby,

556
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: or drop the baby on a solid tile floor, and

557
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: was closely telling it and yes, and was also telling

558
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: the child to cut their parents the parent's throat while

559
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: they were I'm laughing because you just can't even believe

560
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: that this actually happened. They said cut the parent's throat

561
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: while they were sleeping, the adults in the house. And

562
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: also they said to put alcohol aerosol spray all over

563
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: the sheets and to set them on fire. And apparently

564
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: the kid did put the aerosol right on the sheets,

565
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: but never lit the fire. How was that not picked

566
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: up by any kind of algorithm or whatever? Is outrageous.

567
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm constantly hearing criticisms from parents of

568
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: children that play Roadblocks that there's not enough safety features embedded,

569
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Speaker 1: considering it's a game intended for children, and that.

570
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: There's not compared to you know how the kids have

571
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: the mess in your kids? Yeah, that one's like very

572
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: anybody that they're friends with on there has to be

573
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: approved by me. I could see every one of their conversations.

574
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: I could control who they talk to, what time they

575
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And the thing with Roadblocks, this is

576
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Speaker 2: how it is from what I understand, And you guys

577
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: could correct me if I'm wrong. But it's the kids.

578
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: Could they all play together? Right? So they play this

579
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: game right now called Dress to Impress, and they're the

580
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: girls were doing it this weekend. Two of my kids

581
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: are in their bedroom playing with kids that live across

582
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Speaker 2: town and they're all playing together, but they all could

583
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: see what each other's playing. Well, there's a fun function

584
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: that you could chat, right, so you eat. This is

585
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: where the problem lies. You could either chat with everybody

586
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: there or not chat at all. But the kids that

587
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: are not chatting at all, then they can't talk to

588
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: their friends, even which that's what.

589
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking to.

590
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: And then most parents, including myself, are like, okay, well

591
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: you could just talk to everyone, because I want you

592
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: to be able to play with your friends, and then

593
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: that's where the problems happen.

594
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: But to me, it's like you coded this entire game

595
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: out and you can't figure out how to code a

596
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: feature that's like you could only talk to your friends,

597
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: or you could only or you have to talk to everybody.

598
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: This doesn't even make sense to me from a developer standpoint.

599
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: And even if they did that though, there's not really

600
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: there's not really a sure way to know or like

601
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: a messenger kids. I only let's say Jen's like, oh

602
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: I want my kids to talk to your kid. I

603
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: have to approve that. She has to approve it. It's

604
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: like this mutual thing that the parents know who the

605
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: kids are talking to. Even if they made friends, it's

606
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: as easy as adding a friend on Instagram. On on roadblocks,

607
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: there's no you don't know who it is. They know

608
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: who their friends use, their names are their real friends,

609
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: but they could add other people that aren't their real friends.

610
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: This team, there's just no way around it for right now,

611
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: at least the way they have it set up.

612
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: And there's been lots of problems. It's not like this

613
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: particular situation. I haven't heard anything this severe, but there's

614
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: a lot of issues with child predators on this game,

615
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: and I don't see why they even want to take

616
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: on the liability of something horrible happening and being associated

617
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: with their platform. Do they really not care? It just

618
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: seems very weird to me.

619
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: They are making probable I can't even imagine the am

620
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: out of money these people are making. It's outrageous.

621
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Speaker 1: Well, they found the lady. She's been arrested, and one

622
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: of the cops working on it said they had worked

623
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: in law enforcement for forty years and have never seen

624
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: anything like this, which I'm like, this is awesome and

625
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: really telling of the society we're living in today.

626
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really it is really alarming, but you

627
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: have to take into consideration, Like, you know, Luce's ten,

628
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: and I'm like, if an adult online was telling her

629
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: that stuff, I think that I can't imagine that she

630
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 2: would just do it. Like so there has to be

631
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: some level of, well, what's wrong with this kid that

632
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: he's trying to hurt this baby? How did that conversation

633
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: even come up? It's just very weird.

634
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: You don't know how the conversation came up. I mean

635
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: you kind of don't know, like the mental state of

636
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: the child. Like there's a million factors at play here.

637
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

638
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Medical news a couple of years ago, this man who's

639
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: now in his early thirties had noticed a bump and

640
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: some hair loss on the top of his head, and

641
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: over the course of five years, the bump had become

642
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: tender to touch. So he finally went to the doctor

643
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: and they noticed that the skin above the bumped move

644
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: really easily, which sews me up to think about. But

645
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: it turns out for about twenty years this man had

646
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: been practicing breakdancing, more specifically headspins over and over and

647
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: over again, so he developed what's called a breakdance bulge.

648
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't understand why this is shocking, you know what

649
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, just dancing. The guy should have just the

650
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: guy should have just walked in and been like, hey,

651
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: I do these headspins and now I got a bump

652
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: on a bald spottle on my head. Like it's just duh,

653
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: overuse of anything.

654
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: If if you if you're like my dad, he was

655
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: a mechanic, right, and he was on his knees all

656
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: the time. He has these huge disgusting cows is on

657
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: his knees right like that. Normal people don't get that,

658
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: don't do those types of jobs. It's just overuse of

659
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: anything is going to cause a tissue reaction that in

660
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: that In this case, he had this bump and when

661
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: they took it out, it was all fibrous tissue, which

662
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: was just the body's way of kind of because think

663
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: about this. You're not supposed to be putting weight on

664
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: the top of your head, no, right, it's it's it's

665
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: not ever supposed to happen. So the top of your

666
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: head isn't strong enough to hold your two hundred pound

667
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: body upside down, right, So your body's going to start

668
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: producing things that that make it thicker and help protect it.

669
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: So every single time it happened. It makes it like

670
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: a little bit stronger and a little bit more hearty

671
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: because this pert that's it's the coolest thing about the

672
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: human body is that it adapts to the different jobs

673
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: we have and the different anatomy we have and everything

674
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: like that. So I it's it's pretty cool.

675
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: But it's just also kind of like, uh, well they said,

676
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: despite this, you know, I guess condition being really well

677
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: known in the break dancing community, there's little to non

678
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: medical literature about it. So yeah, I mean, I listen,

679
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: I'd never thought about it because I just didn't know

680
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: that that people did it that much that it would

681
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: I just never thought about it. But if someone came

682
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: to me and said, oh, with the you know, I

683
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: guess they went there.

684
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't. They had to have telled them

685
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: some history. I could see you walking in with this

686
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: bald spot and this lump and being like, look, I

687
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: just look up and it's happened. Right then. You would

688
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: as a doctor, you would be like, Okay, well we

689
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: need to look into this. But as soon as they

690
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: say what they're doing, it's just like okay.

691
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, do you think the infamous Olympic breakdancer Rake

692
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Gun has this issue as well.

693
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: Does Is she really a breakdancer? That was actually like

694
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: hilarious all those memes there. I saw that someone has

695
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: a skeleton on their lawn that's dressed up like her.

696
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

697
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: But is she actually a breakdancer or I thought she

698
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: just was going to make a mockery of the whole thing.

699
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think her.

700
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: She doesn't look like she's got any skills like that.

701
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 2: She definitely doesn't have any bumps on her head.

702
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: I feel like her story was that she learned it

703
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: like two days before and then one or something nuts.

704
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

705
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: She didn't win, did she? Oh?

706
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I thought she did.

707
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. Everybody was freaking out, so well,

708
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: everybody's just freaking out because people dedicate their entire lives

709
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: to being Olympic athletes and she just like cut the

710
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: line kind of and I guess she, I guess qualified

711
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: and made it and it made a mockery of it.

712
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: And I don't even think that that's her fault. That's

713
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: their fault. But let's just like not go on and

714
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: tanted about that right now.

715
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: All right, this next word is what I was reference

716
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: saying earlier with the organ donation. So this woman, Jennifer

717
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: was born with this rare condition. Can you explain what

718
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: it is?

719
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Yes, citis and versus. It's the condition I always say

720
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: is like my dream autopsy, and it's when your your

721
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: organs are not on the right side of your body,

722
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: so everything is kind of not in the normal anatomic place.

723
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: And she ended up having this condition which I never

724
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: really heard of, called primary ciliary dyskinesia, but it makes sense.

725
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: So the ccilia are these little hairs that are inside

726
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: of your respiratory track. That's what happens when you cough.

727
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: It's like those little hairs are kind of pushing debris

728
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: and bad things out of your lungs and it they

729
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: weren't working correctly. So what happened was she was getting

730
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: this increased mucus and kept getting asthma, kept getting pneumonia,

731
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: and she got to the point where she was on

732
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: oxygen and she was very very young, and she was

733
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: thirty two, and they said you have to get along transplant.

734
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: And she obviously like, if somebody told you that too,

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: you would say that scares the shit out of me.

736
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, but then it got

737
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: to the point where she couldn't even breathe barely, so

738
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 2: she finally was like, I have to do this, you know. Yeah.

739
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: So then unfortunately, this woman that had a brain aneurysm

740
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: had died, so that's who she was able to get

741
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: the lungs from. So after her transplant surgery, she kind

742
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: of said she broke the rules and found the family

743
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: and contacted them, just thanking them for changing her entire

744
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: life despite the tragedy they had gone through, and they

745
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: had found her on Facebook and messaged her and then

746
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: they planned to meet. So Jennifer flew out to meet

747
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: her donor's family and when she was there, she just

748
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: felt this immediate bond with them. She became very close.

749
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: She was invited to their others, the donor sister's wedding,

750
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: and at the wedding, she became really close with the

751
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: brother and now they're married.

752
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: Isn't this se she was the other sisters? Okay, yeah,

753
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: it is. It really is. It's like such a cute story.

754
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: I am curious though, how because when I first read this,

755
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: I thought, I've talked to a lot of people that

756
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: have had transplants and stuff. And it's very hard to

757
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: figure out who you get it from most of the time.

758
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why, if they're certain rules,

759
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: or if that's just donors prefer not to give their information.

760
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the reason is, but I guess

761
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: she was able to send a letter to the family

762
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: because maybe you can send a letter and say thank you.

763
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: But she said she put these like easter eggs in

764
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: it that gave them enough that if they googled her,

765
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: they were able to find out who she was, which

766
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: I thought was really cool. And I'm a fan of

767
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: breaking roles in some circumstances, so I thought I was

768
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: just like, I would totally do this too if I

769
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: really wanted to know. And it is cool because they

770
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: you know, there's a love story out of it, but

771
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: also the family gets to have this continuous connection with

772
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: their loved one that died. So I think that that's

773
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: and this is like the prime example of this girl

774
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: was thirty two years old and needed lungs. Right, that's

775
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: why you should be in because otherwise this woman that

776
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: had the aneurysm would just be dead underground, and this

777
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: girl would be dead underground too, right, I mean.

778
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: This is the absolute worst inherited quality I have from anybody,

779
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: is my crying for mama. Because when I read the

780
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: part that said the sister that had passed away was

781
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: always trying to set the brother up with somebody, and

782
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: this like cosmically happened, I just started crying off.

783
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: That is so sad.

784
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I know, it's so touching. It's so cool that they

785
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: got married. Their wedding pictures are so cute, and it's

786
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: so he's crying right now. It's Jesus sorry, alrightry into

787
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: some toilet pictures.

788
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: There's this help is ridiculous, by the way, this is.

789
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Why people have hypochondria, including myself. There's this health startup

790
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: out of Austin that's selling a camera that you can

791
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: clip inside of your toilet and it'll take pictures of

792
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: your poop and tell you if you have got problems

793
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: or hydration issues.

794
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: Why can't you just look at your turns? Listen. A

795
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: camera inside a toilet is just a terrible there's always

796
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: sure badge and butthole is like right there.

797
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: So there's obvious concerns that there will be pictures that

798
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: are not meant to be taken uploaded on this app.

799
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: And they're claiming that they have all these security measures

800
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: in place and that everything's anonymous. But if everything's anonymous,

801
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: how is it syncing up to your account to tell

802
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: you that something's going on?

803
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: What? I just don't understand.

804
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: What if you just know the basics that if you

805
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: have diarrhea, that's not good, and if you have constipation,

806
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: that's not good. And if your pay is too dark,

807
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: that's not good. And if it's a weird color, that's

808
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: not good. Like I just saved you a bunch of money, Okay,

809
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: why do you need to take a picture of it

810
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: every day?

811
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: I just just get in like a little too personal.

812
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: It just is there has to be a line drawn,

813
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: and it needs to be drawn here.

814
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: I think we're getting to a point where we're knowing

815
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: too much in our personal homes without medical advice, and

816
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: it's not a good thing. It's like my number one

817
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: problem with WebMD. Right. It's like like a couple of

818
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: months ago, I had eaten some pineapple, right, and I

819
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: texted you and I was like, my tongue looks really

820
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: crazy and it was like wavy and everything. You were like, oh,

821
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: that just happens with pineapple, right. But when you google that,

822
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: it's like basically like, you have tongue cancer, right, and

823
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: you shouldn't know things like that.

824
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: Could I make a WebMD that's like totally blows off everything.

825
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: I'll get sooth though on the first day, because it'll

826
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: be this one person that has tongue cancer or something. Yeah,

827
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: just like it's just the pineapple end zyme digesting your tongue.

828
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: You're fine, You'll survive, Like that's aknown thing.

829
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it like, I'm sure so many people go

830
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: through this, and then somebody like me that's just like

831
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: so freaked out by anything medical. Ironically, I just start spiraling.

832
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: You know.

833
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: We had this really awful comment in the grosser room yesterday.

834
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about it. I wrote this article

835
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: about this woman that got all these bad surgeries because

836
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: she had this really bad doctor. And I just was

837
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: asking our community, like, have you ever had a bad

838
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: experience with the doctor? And somebody wrote that they went

839
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: to the doctor and they got blow work done and

840
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: the doctor said, will you either have hand, foot in

841
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: mouth or leukemia? And it was a long weekend and

842
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: they didn't get the results until after that was a Friday.

843
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: They didn't get the results till the following Tuesday, and

844
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: she was like, I was spiraling out of control, thinking

845
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I was dying.

846
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you hear stories like this from time to time,

847
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: even my mother in law. Actually, she had went to

848
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: the hospital and got diagnosed with having a tumor on

849
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: her kidney, and they told her that she had kidney cancer,

850
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: which I've always been taught in school, you never ever

851
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: tell people that they have cancer until you have a

852
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: formal tissue. Well, in this case, it would be a

853
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: blood work, but you have like a formal diagnosis from

854
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: some kind of lab, right, they told her that she

855
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: had cancer. And then so my mother in law got

856
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: the surgery done and got the kidney removed and everything,

857
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: and it turned out to be a benign tumor. But like,

858
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: for a couple weeks, she thought she had cancer, and

859
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: it's just there's no They should have just said, there's

860
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: a tumor, there's a chance it could be, but there's

861
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: also a chance it could be benign, Like let's just

862
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: do this, And they were flat out told her that

863
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: there was nothing else it could be. But kiddy answer,

864
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: it's just so irresponsible. Yeah, it really is irresponsible.

865
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: But back to the toilet camera. I just feel like this,

866
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does this have to do about toilet

867
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: I just can't stop thinking about that comment. But back

868
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: to the toilet camera. I think this is setting up

869
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: this environment where it's going to you know, it uses

870
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: AI technology to diagnose your poop. I think it's going

871
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: to give somebody a bad reading. It reminds me of

872
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: that penis app we were talking about a couple of

873
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: months ago. Yeah, and how was if you haven't listened

874
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: to that episode, it was like you could take a

875
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: picture of your genitals and we'll tell you if you

876
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: have like what an STD or something.

877
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

878
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: I just think it's going to give many false readings

879
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: and maybe tell someone they're fine when they're not, or

880
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: tell somebody something's wrong when they're not. And I just

881
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good idea.

882
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: The worst part that it's not a good idea is

883
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: that it's four hundred and nine nine dollars and if

884
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: you want to sign up for their their startup company,

885
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: you can get it for cheaper for two hundred and

886
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars. Like that, just it seems like so

887
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: much money, Like you could get a camera on your

888
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: front porch to protect your entire house for for how

889
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: much to one of those things cost a hundred bucks?

890
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't even know how much they cost.

891
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Like this news article that wrote this up, I too

892
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: have concerns about the privacy and the user data. And

893
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: they said their technology will filter out pictures that aren't

894
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: meant to be there. But I'm like, so somebody's just

895
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: got like a picture of your butthole or your genitals unsolicited.

896
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: I feel this way about even the Amazon Alexa and

897
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: all that shit, like why would you introduce anything like

898
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: that into the privacy of your own home? And then

899
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: it's going a step further to introduce that technology into

900
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: your bathroom, Like they're every single human should have a

901
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: way that they're disconnected from all of that. You do

902
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: not have to be connected in every single way for

903
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: every single thing. It's just it's not good. That's how

904
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: I look at it. Like you need to have like

905
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: safe spaces, right like when I go into the bathroom

906
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: and shut the door, like that's that's like my private space,

907
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And you're letting people into that,

908
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: and it's just it's weird, and you know, for you

909
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 2: always have to talk about like the benefit and the risk, right,

910
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: the risk of something being terrible with this is far

911
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: greater than any benefits you're getting by some camera looking

912
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: at pictures of your poop.

913
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't I see what they're trying to do, but

914
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: I don't.

915
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: Like it's just like, it's just not that difficult. Like

916
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: we've been a species of humans for thousands of years

917
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: and people have figured out when they're having like poop

918
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: and p issues. Like it's just we're not that stupid.

919
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: We can't be that stupid.

920
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: No, just okay. Other death news, So this undertaker from

921
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: England has been sentenced to seventeen years in jail after

922
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: pleading guilty to sex crimes with dead bodies. Some of

923
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: those included making indecent images and arranging or encouraging the

924
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: commission of sexual offenses against a child, a dog, and

925
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: a dead body via social media apps.

926
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: The grossest part of this story is that there's some

927
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: other person that's involved with this, that they were meeting

928
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: up and talking about having sex with dead bodies and

929
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: things like that, and you just think, like, how does

930
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: the conversation ever come? When you meet a person that

931
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, in some part of your friendship,

932
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, I have friends that we bond because we

933
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: like to collect plants and stuff, Like, how does it go?

934
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: How does it go to? Like, oh, let's like talk

935
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: about the joy of having sex with dead people?

936
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: Well, apparent, it's really weird. It's really weird. And apparently

937
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: this guy had been sentenced in twenty twenty two and

938
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: his case was just recently referenced in this case against

939
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about this guy, David Kohler.

940
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: So he was the hospital maintenance man who for fifteen

941
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: years was assaulting over one hundred people. I think they.

942
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: Figured out, Yeah, so like did how.

943
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: Does this happen? How does it come up? And you know,

944
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: of course they were questioning the facility this most recent

945
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: or the guy we're talking about that just got sentenced

946
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: to seventeen years, So they're talking about the facility he

947
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: worked at, and like how did they basically let this happen?

948
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: And they're just like, well, there's no proof he did

949
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: it here, Like well, where else was he getting access

950
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: to dead bodies?

951
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know. I mean I don't know because

952
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: this took place in the UK. You're saying, right, yeah,

953
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: so I don't know what the deal is there. I

954
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: don't really one hundred percent know what the deal is here, honestly,

955
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: but I know that in the article they were saying

956
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: that any person could just be a funeral director and

957
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: they could just have bodies in their house and in

958
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: their garage. And I mean that kind of happened here too,

959
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: a little bit, like there's people that live in the

960
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: funeral home that they that they run out of their

961
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: home and yeah, people, you know, there's a few around

962
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 2: us that they have. I mean, you don't think about

963
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: it because you go to a funeral, but they have

964
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: to have some kind of refrigeration system somewhere where they're

965
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: storing bodies while they're working on them and stuff. And

966
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 2: I but I feel like there's a lot of regulations

967
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: here with that. Maybe I'm wrong, though I don't one

968
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: hundred percent know, but and in the UK too, but

969
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been cases where there's regulations and people

970
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: are certified funeral directors and stuff, and this stuff still happens.

971
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: Like it's the same thing as a pedophile working at

972
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: a school. Like when you have these weird sexual desires,

973
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: then it wouldn't be unheard of for you to get

974
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: a career where you had access to that, you know

975
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: what I mean?

976
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that. Actually, so I've been finishing up

977
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: with Matt Murphy's book and he was talking about Rodney Ocala,

978
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, the serial killer, and apparently because this all

979
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: happened in the seventies, he was able to get this

980
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: other alias while he was on the run and he

981
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: was working at a children's like an all girls camp,

982
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: like summer camp, taking pictures her ific. But Netflix just

983
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: put out this movie called Woman at the Hour that

984
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: just came out on Friday about him, and I don't know,

985
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: I watched it and I thought it was fine. But

986
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: after listening to the exact real life, you know, how

987
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: they figured out this guy was on this dating show

988
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: in the seventies versus how they did it in the movie,

989
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: I just thought the real story was so much more compelling. Yeah,

990
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: and they barely touched the surface with it. But I

991
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: guess when somebody's doing horrific things for years and years

992
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: and years and thinking they have victims of up to

993
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: one hundred people, it's impossible to like even touch the surface.

994
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, totally, It's definitely interesting. But let's get onto

995
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: questions of the day. Every Friday at the at mother

996
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: nos Death Instagram account. You guys could ask us whatever

997
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: questions you want. Just head over to our story on

998
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: Fridays and we have the little question box up. Can

999
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: you explain why balloons are the worst choking hazard in kids?

1000
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: Well, just because they put it in their mouth, I mean,

1001
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be I feel like it would be super

1002
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: rare to find a balloon in an adult's mouth. But

1003
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: when you put the balloons, what they do is the

1004
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: balloons are usually inflated, and then a kid usually three

1005
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: four two, you know, little little kid with sharp teeth

1006
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: will bite on the balloon and when the balloon pops,

1007
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: it's all of a sudden, a flat piece of rubber

1008
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: that air can't get through it gets They could inhale

1009
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: it very quickly. It's very thin, and just inhaling it

1010
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: could suck it right down. And unfortunately, if you notice

1011
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: that a child is choking like that, unless you're physically

1012
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: able to stick your finger down their throat and get it.

1013
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: It's not like if you do the heimlook or something,

1014
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: it's not coming up. It's stuck because it's just so

1015
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: thin and it covers the airway, and then it just

1016
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: causes an asphyxial death. So I just hate balloons so much.

1017
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: I hate like thinking about I never had a case

1018
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: personally of it, but seeing the autopsy pictures of just

1019
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: like this little tiny throat with a balloon in it,

1020
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: I just I just like don't like them all.

1021
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: Right. Next, do you ask for any medical history like screenings?

1022
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: I guess when you're doing an exam.

1023
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 2: No, I would say, I would say not probably. I've

1024
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: like No, I would say, it doesn't really matter because

1025
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 2: we're looking at it, you know, if you're gonna find

1026
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: it anyway. Yeah, if we go like, let's say we

1027
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: look at a sixty year old person and they have

1028
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: a tumor in their colon, we're not going to go

1029
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: back and see if they've been getting a colonoscopy every

1030
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: year or something like that. That's not what we would

1031
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: really care to do or look into. I don't. I

1032
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: don't think it really matters for dead people as much

1033
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: as it matters for live people. I'm just trying to

1034
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: think of any other circumstance. Even with breast cancer and stuff.

1035
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's just more of a clinical thing

1036
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: than than what would matter in pathology. Even if we

1037
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: have a woman that never had mamograms or something. It's

1038
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: just like, at this point, if you're dead or you

1039
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 2: have cancer from it, there's not really much you could

1040
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: do to say were they having screenings or not. That's

1041
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: more just for the clinical side. I would say, all.

1042
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Right, least, what's your favorite fall activity?

1043
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: I like haunted things. We went to the one in

1044
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: our town, you know, the one that wouldn't let us

1045
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: advertise there, which I pitched them for out adult just

1046
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: like totally walk through it, and there was just like

1047
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: a bunch of like, you know, kids just pretending to

1048
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: be dead in all these different scenarios, which was it

1049
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: was very cool though, Wait I said something there or yes,

1050
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: I said something, you say. I just was like, oh,

1051
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: I could totally see why you didn't let my podcast

1052
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: advertise here. It's just like not the appropriate situation. I'm sure,

1053
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: like just.

1054
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: Whatever, You're just so different from me.

1055
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: I just what am I going to do? Just like

1056
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: let the like it's just ridiculou If it made sense,

1057
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: I would just let it go. It just doesn't make

1058
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: any sense. So it really wasn't like it wasn't like

1059
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: when I did the garden tour, right, maybe that might

1060
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: not have been appropriate. I could understand that, Like I'm

1061
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: a normal person, I understand stuff. But when you're talking

1062
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: about death like Halloween, whatever, I just whatever. We don't

1063
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: need to go on about it, but I want to

1064
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: go on. Me and Gabe usually go on a good one,

1065
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: like we usually go with other Maria and Friday. Actually

1066
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: we've done that a couple of years too, like like

1067
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: an adult one that the kids would they would just

1068
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: shit themselves if they went to it. They would cry

1069
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: so bad. Maria doesn't even really like Halloween.

1070
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't. There's this, you know, I feel like I

1071
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: say this every week. There's this misconception that I guess

1072
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: because I have tattoos and we have this podcast about death,

1073
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: that I'm just like obsessed with Halloween. Like it just

1074
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: can't be further than the truth. I just I think

1075
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: when I have kids, I'll get really into it because

1076
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll have kids and they go trigger treating and stuff.

1077
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: But right now, like I don't really like horror things.

1078
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: I feel like the stories we talk about are real

1079
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: and really scary, so I don't want to like keep

1080
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: triggering my brain like that, just watching really scary movies

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Speaker 1: over and over again, and it's just not really my thing.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's not like I think people

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Speaker 2: I'm like Halloween because or yeah, I like, but that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I like Halloween or Christmas or

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Speaker 2: anything because I like anything that involves creativity and crafting

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Speaker 2: and decorating. So for I mean, really I could go

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Speaker 2: nuts with with Halloween or with Christmas or anything because

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Speaker 2: I'm just like into that, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily it's the same thing. The death thing

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Speaker 2: is around us every single day, so it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: it's more intriguing to other people because it's you know,

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Speaker 2: I have I have skeletons in my house every day,

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Speaker 2: not I'm not gonna go buy a plastic one. Well

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Speaker 2: I have a pink plastic one, but beside that, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to go buy plastic ones to put outside

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Speaker 2: like I'm around them all the time, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's cool if that's your thing. But my thing's Christmas.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, but uh yeah I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't really do like halloweeny activities like that. I guess

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Speaker 1: when it's like nice and crisp and fallout. I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a basic bitch and going to the

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Speaker 1: farmer's market or getting a pumpkin coffee and just I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been baking bread and a pumpkin coffee

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Speaker 1: is like, legit the best, even though are my pumpkin

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Speaker 1: coffee today had a bug in it when I finished

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Speaker 1: drinking it and at the very last stip, I was like, cool,

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Speaker 1: this bug's just floating in the cup. But that's not

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Speaker 1: their fault. That just happens sometimes, pretty disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so I guess you noticed that this is

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Speaker 2: an early news episode. We had so many stories this

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Speaker 2: week that we had to and like, the week's not over,

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Speaker 2: so we decided we're going to do two episodes this week,

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Speaker 2: which we're going to do probably more often because we're

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Speaker 2: cuting a lot of story. So today News episode, another

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Speaker 2: one's coming at the end of the week. So stay

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Speaker 2: tuned for the rest of those stories, and keep sending

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Speaker 2: us your stories when you find them, because we really

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Speaker 2: enjoy that and we just can't possibly find every single

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Speaker 2: thing that's happening in the world, So when you guys

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Speaker 2: help us out, it's really awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you guys have a shocking story that's

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Speaker 1: thematic to Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentine's Day, just send it

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Speaker 1: whenever because we try to make a list of them

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Speaker 1: so we could fill them in around the times of

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Speaker 1: the year so we could have fun little episodes that

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Speaker 1: are thematic to what's going on. But we like to.

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Speaker 2: Keeople die from Halloween candy, and we have a bunch

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Speaker 2: of stories. We're gonna have a special episode on Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I actually have so many stories for our

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Speaker 1: Christmas episode that I think we're gonna have to either

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Speaker 1: do two parts or we're just gonna have to cut

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot.

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Speaker 1: But submit those to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com and

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Speaker 1: we all love to review them, and please leave us

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Speaker 1: a review.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, bye, Thank you for listening to Mother

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Speaker 2: nos Death. As a reminder, my training is as a

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Speaker 2: pathologist's assistant. I have a master's level education and specialize

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Speaker 2: in anatomy and pathology education. I am not a doctor

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Speaker 2: and I have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or

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Speaker 2: alive without the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show,

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Speaker 2: my website, and social media accounts are designed to educate

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Speaker 2: and inform people based on my experience working in pathology,

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Speaker 2: so they can make healthier decisions regarding their life and

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Speaker 2: well being. Always remember that science is changing every day

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Speaker 2: and the opinions expressed in this episode are based on

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Speaker 2: my knowledge of those subjects at the time of publication.

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Speaker 2: If you are having a medical problem, have a medical question,

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