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Speaker 1: Sure, it's no Welcome to the naughty and I shall

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Speaker 1: I'm your head stroup shooter, and it is Thursday, which

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Speaker 1: means ourday. Friend Mark Lupo joins us, Hey, Loopy, are

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Speaker 1: you there? Loopy? Lou is here?

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Speaker 2: Hello rab Hey Loopy, you're on vacation. Where in the

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Speaker 2: world are you?

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Speaker 3: Naples, Florida?

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Speaker 2: Who you with?

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Speaker 3: With my parents, my brother and Kevin, We'll all enjoy.

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Speaker 1: The show to day and go for a lovely drive

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Speaker 2: What are you planning to do? How long you're there for?

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Speaker 3: We're here for a week. It's my brother, my mom,

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Speaker 3: and Kevin's birthday, all the same kind of week. So

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Speaker 3: we're doing dinners and drinks and beach and pool and

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Speaker 3: all that fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm jellous.

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Speaker 1: Send I love to your mummy and all your family.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump into the show. What time is it?

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Speaker 2: My friends?

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Speaker 1: Big story at the top of the show, I love

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Speaker 1: this some truth here a truth bomber. Sophia Viagara, who

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Speaker 1: I adore, says that it would be absurd to feel

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Speaker 1: as if her good looks hadn't helped propel her to stardom.

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Speaker 1: She argues that her looks are quote my passport to

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Speaker 1: the world. Sophia is crediting her beautiful looks of me.

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Speaker 1: She looks fabulous to the fact that it opened the

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Speaker 1: feel bad about it. The actress said that she's aware

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Speaker 1: and I like this part, it was her personality that

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Speaker 1: It would be absolutely absurd to deny that this didn't

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Speaker 1: help me or makes me feel bad, she said. My

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Speaker 1: big boobs and my body opened doors to me. They

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Speaker 1: were the passport to the world that she so wanted

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Speaker 2: I like when people tell the truth here.

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Speaker 1: We have certain advantages, we have certain gifts, and that all.

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Speaker 2: Is part of the package of being you.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Mark, I love the story, and

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Speaker 3: I especially loved the idea of the passport to the

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Speaker 3: She knew that she had disadvantage, she took advantage of it.

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Speaker 3: And I agree that. You know her personality, her abilities

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Speaker 3: That's why we're so interested.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, And success came to her a little

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Speaker 1: of people, she said, would have given up. So when

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Speaker 1: I always reinvent myself. I just refuse to go away.

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Speaker 2: Success is built upon? What's the secret to your success?

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Speaker 3: I think this is what we have in common. It's

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Speaker 3: And you always see this, do the work, And I

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Speaker 1: Consistency, that's the key word, is it. I also like

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Speaker 1: And if you can find joy in the process. If

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Speaker 3: And that's when you look back on all the times

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Speaker 1: My favorite memories of those hard moments. When I think back,

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Speaker 1: smart for you to say this. You're gorgeous, Like, I

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Speaker 1: Do you think your good looks have helped you?

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Speaker 3: You know, I take care of myself and I think

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Speaker 1: Oh it is. I don't know if that's a good

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Speaker 2: I've noticed the different.

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Speaker 1: Oprah said that too, and she's Oprah if Oprah, so

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine for the rest of us.

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Speaker 1: I love that Sophia Vagara is just telling the truth

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Speaker 2: They couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's so true, and that's all we love her

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Speaker 3: is because she's genuine, she's real, and she tells it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell it like it is now. I want you

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Speaker 1: vote on our pole. Today's pole is Sophia Vigara. Says

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Speaker 1: it would be absurd to not think her looks propelled

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Is she telling the truth here? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Loopie, what are you working on?

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Speaker 3: Have a bombshell story if you buckle up. Okay, So,

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Speaker 3: Cher's daughter in law is claiming the singer is a manic,

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Speaker 3: let me explain this is pretty serious. So Scher is

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Speaker 3: Elijah Allman's conservator. This is coming from Elijah's wife. So

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Speaker 3: singer's attempts to control all mends financial decisions would jeopardize

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Speaker 3: his continued recovery from substance abuse. Now, in the documents,

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Speaker 3: the petitioner has never known the security, go to her

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I know people who have worked with

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Speaker 2: The right intentions. Her son, she believes needs some help, although.

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Speaker 1: It should be pointed out he has been paying his

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Speaker 1: To get a conservatorship over somebody should be really really hard,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to find it themselves. I love to

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Speaker 1: believe that I'm available to help people. I really want

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Speaker 1: to believe that. I think it's the truth. But you

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Speaker 1: I think there are certain facts. It's a job, it's

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Speaker 2: And now it's time for our nicest of the day.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, surprise this list. It's Travis Kelcey. Oh. He

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Speaker 1: You get a rob, you get a roub, you get

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Speaker 1: I was always ready to fight Mark, and I still

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Speaker 1: Not Even Nice with Rob and Mark show, a production

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Speaker 1: birthday to Kevin, Jonas and your mom Doris and Jonathan

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