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Speaker 1: Punch scooped me up off my feet and slam me

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Speaker 2: We're in a four on fistfight.

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Speaker 4: Big sang it again. I do a big, big, big

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Speaker 5: We are now joined by a very special guest from

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Speaker 5: pick to a sixth time first team All Pro, A

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Speaker 5: bearded wonder with a pension for taking off of his shirt.

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Speaker 5: This man was voted one of the Sexiest men Alive,

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Speaker 5: not by GQ South Africa, but by People magazine. As

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Speaker 5: Jason Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: In the house, thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 5: Now, I have known this guy for years, years and

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Speaker 5: who I am to my law bunch of podcasts, to

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Speaker 5: parade to now you're it, bro. People are lining up

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Speaker 2: You've been proud of We're there for the come up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and and you deserve everything, bro, I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 5: We told him that we had a jersey signed by everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, she's really doing this to me right here,

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Speaker 1: I think if I still want to play, I'm going

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Speaker 3: Because because right now you got Earthluens saying they shouldn't

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Speaker 3: Things that you go through toughen you up. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: the General. Uh, what's your prediction? I know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: I think both of these teams are the pinnacle of

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Speaker 2: The best man's speech? I don't know if you're going

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Speaker 5: If you're, it's going to be Travis right, everyone's gonna

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to set him out because I knew

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if you're going to retirement or best My.

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Speaker 1: I've learned that it's it's crazy what it opens up

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, Uh, what it opens up opportunity wise, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I know the love you have for your brother, and

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Speaker 3: I'm saying you are fuck all that you're talking about

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Speaker 5: But it is crazy to think about Travis' career where

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Speaker 5: So I've seen Shaq recently get a lot of people

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Speaker 5: So the incredible thing about doing a podcast with you, Shaq,

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Speaker 5: How many assistants do you currently have?

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Speaker 2: Over twenty? Holy? Holy?

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Speaker 3: And that's because my favorite word in life is delegation.

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Speaker 3: I want to do a podcast, Damn Damn, call my boy, Shane.

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Speaker 5: Shack, How how do you deal with business owners or

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Speaker 5: They're trying to help people hire so they can build

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Speaker 3: We still can't beat beat Mike. Hey, Horace Grant, you

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Speaker 3: come get this old treadmill and get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: He takes it around the corner from my house and

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Speaker 3: dumped it in somebody else's yard. That's what he does.

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Speaker 3: He takes it around the corner and dumps it in

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Speaker 3: somebody not at the back of the yard, in the front

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Speaker 3: of the yard on the main street. So when I

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Speaker 3: drove by my mom's like, is that tread bill that

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Speaker 3: I just hope my boy to get rid of? So

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Speaker 3: rockyp gotta.

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Speaker 5: Go third chance. Sorry, So here's my idea. Yes, one

447
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Speaker 5: of the highest selling shoes for every sneaker company is

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Speaker 5: the Dad shoe. But I don't think any shoe has

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Speaker 5: officially marketed themselves as the Dad shop. They're just known

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Speaker 5: as And I think Jason Kelsey would be the face

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Speaker 5: of the Dad shoe.

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Speaker 2: If you need something, I mean, listen, do you like

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Speaker 2: this idea? I love it. I love it too. One

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Speaker 2: percent is I'll ask, but I think you'd be.

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Speaker 5: Putting the deal together I start, you know me, I

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Speaker 5: don't try to win the deal I just want to be.

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Speaker 1: A part of it, facilitating. Beside, the materials were better

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Speaker 1: when Reebok was there. I mean, really, listen, I think

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Speaker 1: Nike was phenomenal. They have started to go very cheat

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Speaker 1: interesting and I wear Nike cleats that they stopped making

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Speaker 1: ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't wear any of the Nike cleats, the jerseys.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I I respect Nike as a brand. Rebok everything

464
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Speaker 1: was better a thing.

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Speaker 5: Oh thanks, So I think it was it was either

466
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Speaker 5: Aristotle or I think it was either Aristotle or Mike

467
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Speaker 5: Jones who said back then they didn't want me.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm hot, day all on me.

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Speaker 5: I would imagine that you got ignored for a lot

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Speaker 5: of your career by a lot of different things than people,

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Speaker 5: and I think they've all come forward, and I.

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Speaker 2: Was curious what that experience is, Like, what do you mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're not really asked to come to Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl radio row as a singer. Different, you're not asked

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Speaker 5: to work with brands as I.

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Speaker 1: Don't hold any grudges like that. I mean, yeah, you

478
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Speaker 1: got to earn it. You got to you know, the

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Speaker 1: as a as a young offensive lineman who hadn't done

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Speaker 1: anything yet why would anybody want to have me do

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Speaker 1: anything like that? Right, So you I'm very prideful of

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Speaker 1: where I have come and how far I've come. Right,

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Speaker 1: And you just talked about offensive linemen. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot offensive linemen that get notoriety at all

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Speaker 1: at all. So for me to represent a group that

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Speaker 1: largely you know, they put a lot of work in

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Speaker 1: for not a lot of attention. You know, we're at

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Speaker 1: a time where offensive linemen, some of them, have the

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Speaker 1: best personalities in the NFL, and podcasting all the media

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Speaker 1: now it allows these guys to show that and it's

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Speaker 1: it's I think it'll be really good for that position.

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Speaker 3: off as alignment? Because my question is how did he

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Speaker 3: get to be the great tight end.

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Speaker 2: That he is.

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Speaker 1: You start out a quarterback, that's why quarterback. And he

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Speaker 1: played basketball. Most of the best football players I know

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Speaker 1: played basketball again.

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Speaker 3: Especially what especially because I played football in high school,

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Speaker 3: not as my love, but I was a tight end

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Speaker 3: and we had a play called all of You.

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Speaker 2: Yeah said he would have been a time.

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Speaker 1: I have never understood why NFL teams don't just have

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Speaker 1: somebody who's seven foot for red zone situations is to

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Speaker 1: fill the.

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Speaker 2: Ball to exactly.

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Speaker 5: We were texting during the year and you were like,

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Speaker 5: I really like brotherly shove.

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Speaker 2: I'm done with the name tush push. Yeah. Yeah, but man,

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Speaker 2: the debate was not stop that's nice, but hold on Pushes.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's got a nice I mean rhymes. It's

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Speaker 2: also dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, Oh yes, he does Chuck. You mean debating

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Speaker 1: in terms of like how fair it is or the name.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the name. I mean the name is

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Speaker 1: you can call whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a quarterback. Sneak to me, you want to

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Speaker 1: call push brotherly shove?

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Speaker 5: What you said on your podcast again New Heights, which

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Speaker 5: obviously all of you guys have watched, as you said,

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Speaker 5: and I love this. It's an about was it an

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Speaker 5: assembly of men?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Organized mass, organized mass.

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Speaker 1: I stole that from another scotsman named Richie Gray Rugby.

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Speaker 1: His title he goes around to different teams. His title

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Speaker 1: is collision Expert. Wow, pretty cool title, right, But all

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Speaker 1: he does is focus on how to uh like improve

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Speaker 1: the angle and ways to tackle better ways.

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Speaker 5: I have to imagine other teams have brought this guy in.

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Speaker 5: He was He's been all over So then why did it?

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Speaker 5: Is it a combination of you and Jail? I mean,

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Speaker 5: look and Landon's huge?

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Speaker 2: Ami alatta? Why did it work so much more with y'all?

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Speaker 1: I think it's more organized with the way Stout coaches

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Speaker 1: it than most teams. This isn't a play you rep

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Speaker 1: in practice, so hurt people? Yeah, it's or the quarterback

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't just want to expose that right,

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Speaker 1: and Stout is very detailed how he coaches it you

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Speaker 1: even when you're walking through he very detailed in how

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Speaker 1: you're walking through it. I think most teams just kind

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Speaker 1: of line up and run it. From an offensive lines perspective,

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Speaker 1: you call it a wedge block, but you're not detailed

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Speaker 1: on how that wedge block is done in the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be in tune with how the offensive

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Speaker 1: line is doing it. So I think we're very detailed.

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Speaker 1: And then plus, because you don't get times to practice,

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Speaker 1: we've run it so much that our rep count versus

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Speaker 1: the defense who's not practicing it is. You know, we've

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Speaker 1: run it probably four or five times as much as

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Speaker 1: anybody in the league at this point.

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Speaker 2: Ye, so that helps.

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Speaker 3: The number one high school in Cleveland Heights offers you

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Speaker 3: a coaching job in Cleveland Heights. Yes, a college offers

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Speaker 3: you a head coaching job. NFL team offers you assistant

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Speaker 3: head coach job. Do you take it?

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Speaker 4: Mom?

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Speaker 2: In Cleveland Heights nice football?

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Speaker 1: If it was if it was a number one school

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, I might take it.

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Speaker 2: I'm the familia, my wife, I'm my in laws, help out.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm Philly right now, and Lease and Ed we

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Speaker 1: would be lost without their help with our girls and everything.

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Speaker 2: So Cleveland Heights would be something. Though.

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Speaker 1: NFL that's a big time commitment. College, No, not interesting,

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Speaker 1: it's too much. You gotta recruit, you got to coach. Shoot,

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Speaker 1: you'll never be with your family. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: best two levels of coaching or high school where you

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Speaker 1: get to develop kids and really form them and help

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Speaker 1: them grow into men and offer that guidance. And then

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Speaker 1: in the NFL you get to compete at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: But it's still a time commitment in the NFL. But

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Speaker 1: that's where like financially, it kind of makes sense with

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Speaker 1: the time commitment.

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Speaker 5: I know you're a sports fan. I like to ask

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Speaker 5: this question, what do you remember from Shach's career.

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Speaker 1: I remember the most dominating big man I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: play the game, and not only I remember, I remember

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Speaker 1: it two different parts because I remember the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: I remember the second half of the career, which was

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Speaker 1: incredibly dominant in the paint and just overwhelming power at

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Speaker 1: all times. But I also remember ah leticism in Orlando

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Speaker 1: where he's.

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Speaker 3: Running that Michael Michael said, I had no athleticism. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he's young. He doesn't remember Orlando. That's when it comes down.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't remember any stripes. Yes, that's right, he doesn't remember.

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Speaker 1: It was the movie.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of the name right, blue Chips, Blue Chips.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't around for you.

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Speaker 3: And your brother have discipline that I'm familiar with. So

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Speaker 3: my question is was your dad hard on you too?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Very hard. He was hard. He was honest, he

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Speaker 2: was you have a connection. You have a connection. Bro,

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Speaker 2: We're from the same plan.

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Speaker 5: So I'm studying as a new dad, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: how hard do I have to be on this kid?

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Speaker 2: I would actually love for your It's different. I'm new.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Yeah, I don't. You both just were like nah.

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Speaker 1: Because giving parent advice, I think I think, I think

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Speaker 1: you love your children and you and you you're you're

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Speaker 1: honest with them and you're and you keep them accountable.

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Speaker 1: But I've read books and I've tried like all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I think most parents are just figuring it out.

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Speaker 1: And if you approach it with the overall mentality that

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Speaker 1: you love them and you and you're gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna, You're gonna hold them accountable and and and

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Speaker 1: and and keep them uh uh and be honest with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's important. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: To me, I've never I've never ever had to spank

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Speaker 3: my kids like I've I was a high level juvenile delinquent.

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Speaker 2: I was a follower.

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Speaker 3: So basically, my my dad's disciplining was first developing me

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Speaker 3: to a leader. And he was always saying, you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna be out here getting in trouble like I did,

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Speaker 3: and he would touch me up and I'm glad he did.

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Speaker 2: Left to ch chickens, scalions cheese. What do we gonna

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Speaker 5: Helmans, you can talk.

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Speaker 3: The chicken salad sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Johnny I went viral and as still going left, Court

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Speaker 2: asked me, if I open up to a woman emotionally emotionally,

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Speaker 2: So my question is, and I hope I'm not being dispectful.

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Speaker 2: Do you open up to your wife what? I open

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Speaker 2: up in? What way? Look emotionally? Yes? Yeah, I'm an

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Speaker 2: emotional person, got it? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Shaq went viral because he said, in no circumstances should

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Speaker 5: you because they'll throw it back in your face.

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Speaker 2: I get it. I am.

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Speaker 1: I have the I would love to hide it, but

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Speaker 1: I'm bad at hiding it. Like for some reason, I

656
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 1: cry like a baby when I gave I gues speaks

657
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: to the team. I'm I have great respect. This is

658
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: another thing. Somebody said something about it in the paper

659
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: about it. It's like toxic masculinity or you know, this is

660
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: what's wrong. We can't be emotional in front of people.

661
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: And I have nothing wrong with people that are emotional,

662
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: but people that can control their emotions and release them

663
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: at the right time or in the right moment. That

664
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: is a great sign of self control and self so

665
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't have that. I am very emotional, unfortunately, And

666
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's sometimes it leads to these incredible highs

667
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and it's like it gives me stronger. Yeah, and then

668
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like I should probably stop being a little baby.

669
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: But it's the way it works. Yeah.

670
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: But I was explaining like a comedian friend of mine

671
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: asked a question, who do you think talk to?

672
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: And I was just playing to him as we're blessed.

673
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So the problems that we think we have

674
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: are there really problems. On the way over here, I

675
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: saw seven homeless people. This is Super Bowl weekend. I

676
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: flew here profit all my boys hopefully I'm in a

677
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: sweetneck to tailor's. So my my little problems are they

678
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: really problems? So I'm able to go home and be like,

679
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 3: shut the hell up. Yeah up, wine house is seventy

680
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: thousand square feet.

681
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: You got a shot.

682
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: And then I can hear my father talk manu because

683
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: now when I was married, I don't want to my

684
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: wife hardly deal with a lot. Yeah, I crazy babies,

685
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: this and that and that, the internet, and I don't

686
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: want to put more pressure on here. So that's why

687
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: I've never you know, That's what I always held it

688
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: to myself. But for some reason it's going viral and toxic.

689
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: Man that I wouldn't call it toxics, just that I

690
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: care about people and and I'm blessed, I'm super blessed.

691
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: Is really a problem to me?

692
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: That's you. Well you just explained to me, is you

693
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: have the self awareness and can First of all, you

694
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: can control that emotion, and now you can look at

695
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: it reflectively and say, life ain't that bad. It's pretty

696
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: damn good, right, and and and then certain emotions I

697
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: can deal with. But I don't love him driving me crazy,

698
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: Like I explained to him. When my sister passed away

699
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: and Kobe passed away, it was my fault, not their death.

700
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: It was my fault because as the leader, as a guy,

701
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: I could have called said Kobe, what's up. I could

702
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: have called my sister and said, hey, I love you,

703
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: but I'm working like so it's my fault that you

704
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: didn't take time to take two minutes just to say

705
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I love your issue.

706
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: So I deal with that every day. But it's again,

707
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: there's people would way more problems than me. So I'm

708
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: not gonna sit up there and say I deal with it.

709
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: I deal with it and then you just move on.

710
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: But it's going like it's been. It's been on every

711
00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: talk show that the World, Star, hip Hop, the View. Yeah,

712
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: and they all got something to say. But well it's

713
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: just as you know, none of that means nothing. It's

714
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: a bunch of people saying nonsense. Yeah, but I could

715
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: tell by you your brother. I think Gronk is in

716
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: that category. I could tell who was raised by I

717
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: could know, I could grow, I can tell like I

718
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: could tell like.

719
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: Just by what do I seem like? Yeah? You you

720
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: like that too? Like you?

721
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure like you have,

722
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: like you know, great discipline. Now when I say a

723
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: great father, it's not about this. It's about being somebody strong,

724
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: like like my father. Even though I got spanked a lot,

725
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: he always had a message. The message, a message that

726
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: still resonates with me today. I was telling him, when

727
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: my chef makes a sandwich, one slice of turkey, one

728
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: slice of cheese, and some helmets many, you know, my

729
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: chef will get like bro. Growing up, I couldn't have

730
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: seven pieces of turkey. Yeah, take that one slue of

731
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: turkey cheese. His helmets, man, A, helmets don't matter. But

732
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: that that's just the way it is.

733
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 5: If you had to designate someone the Shack of the NFL,

734
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 5: and not just current but all time, old time, who.

735
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: Would have that designation? That's a good question. Thanks.

736
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: So, first of all, I did we did. We did

737
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: do a team of building uh an NFL team from

738
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: other sports, and Shack was on my team.

739
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: I just want to say that, So how old are you? Okay,

740
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: so you're young. I was getting ready to call you big.

741
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: So, man, I don't SAP trying to think of the

742
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: similar size. I mean, nobody, nobody was.

743
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Is Aaron Donald's dominant, but he's not.

744
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: I think of a big, overpowering Domican Sue, but I

745
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 5: don't think he dominated as much as Shack did. Sap

746
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: was really dominant. Reggie White is a good that's it.

747
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 5: That's the one. It's a great one.

748
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: And that's it. Refriger is not at your level.

749
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I would pick a tackle, but most tackles

750
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: don't exactly but they don't. It's not the same level

751
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: of But you were going to talk about Reggie White there. Oh,

752
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: I think it's rare. I think that's the best one.

753
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: You knocked out of the park with that different different ray.

754
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Ray was very explosively powerful, But in terms of the

755
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: explosion and just the overwhelming force and the athleticism combined

756
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: with it, I don't know.

757
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: That there's the reason.

758
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: The reason that it's like Reggie is you had clips

759
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 5: that nobody else could do, that you could go through chest.

760
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: Reggie has clips where he's knocking an offensive lineman into

761
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 5: the quarter of a lineman like Larry Allen.

762
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: Also went arly over night because it was a moment

763
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 3: for me to happen. It was like I was scared

764
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: when I first saw Michael Jordan. So my question is

765
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: anybody high school college bros. Anybody like like when you

766
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: first see him, Like, oh my god.

767
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: I think the first time you play any of these greats,

768
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: there's a certain level of fear, and hopefully it's a

769
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: healthy fear, right, I don't subscribe to the like you know,

770
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: if you're afraid that that's necessarily a bad thing. There's

771
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: one of the reactions to that. I've played a lot

772
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: of my best games where I am like, it's a

773
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: respect that this duo can beat me, so you prepare harder.

774
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: The hair on your neck stands up a little bit higher.

775
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: For me, it's always when I played the big the

776
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: big guys that I've never seen before, played against the

777
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: DOMINICANSU when he was in Detroit, Aaron Donald and with

778
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: the Rams, uh and there's been a bunch of those guards, Linvall, Joseph.

779
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: The list goes on. Whenever you're playing those players.

780
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: And you know that they are the best at what

781
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: they do in the world, there's a healthy amount of

782
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: that for sure.

783
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: You know, when I stopped being scared, so I was scared,

784
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: like the intro the thing was crazy. Yeah, so he

785
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: came based on he shot a jumper and I was

786
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: right there. I was like, okay, yeah he.

787
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Was he was.

788
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: He was right there and I was like, right, I

789
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: didn't block it, but I was like, okay, he's human.

790
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: But like you know, the first couple of players a game,

791
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: you looked at him and every shot he made, I

792
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: was like, god, damn.

793
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Into your credit. It is usually that first.

794
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: It's it's leading up to the game and said this

795
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: I was just gonna feel And then the first time

796
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: you hit him that you was like, Okay, this is

797
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna be good.

798
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: I got this. So we talked about this at tn T.

799
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: Recently you started coming into the Undertaker theme song, and

800
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 5: so they would go pitch black at the Staples.

801
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: Center, dong, and you would come out.

802
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 5: Did I read or hear that you would look at

803
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: the eyes of the other team and see if they

804
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 5: would get afraid?

805
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and would would people like lower their heads so

806
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: on this part right here, oh say this part heavy

807
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: time and the.

808
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: Land free like you look real and so so so

809
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: so if I look at you and you put your

810
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: head down, I got you. First of all, I got

811
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: you anyway. But if I make eyekind, if I do that,

812
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: now only got do one more thing to make sure.

813
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: First play the game. I'm trying to get offensive out.

814
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: Oh you're purposely trying to throw a boat.

815
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the boat, and I hope it hits you here

816
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: here or here. So so now you know I'm not

817
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: playing I'm coming.

818
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: To kill you. So but yeah, so follow up question.

819
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: Sacramento Game seven, Bloody D looked away, looked away terrified.

820
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not just uh no free. He looked at me

821
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: like this he was, and I knew we had him.

822
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: Was there ever someone that you looked at and they

823
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: were looking you dead in the face, No fear.

824
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan, Wow, Tim Duncan. Like I was looking and

825
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm bouncing and he's.

826
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: Gone, let me go. He's bouncing.

827
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: Like what about when you were like Miami and Kobe

828
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 5: was in La did you look at him?

829
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's position we love, but it's like different position.

830
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, for me, it was I'm

831
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: gonna get one before you get one, because we had

832
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: the same arguments. Oh, you you can win, but you

833
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: can't win with our Shack. You can win, but you

834
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: can't win with our Kobe. So the fact that he

835
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: has two and I have one, I went crazy in

836
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: my house. This was again like I'm, you know, similar

837
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: to you and your brother. That's a respectful competition thing,

838
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: and I don't ever want nobody to have one up

839
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: on me. So the fact that he has four, I

840
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: mean five and a half four, it drives me crazy

841
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: because when I went in Miami, I got a two

842
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: million dollar check. The next day they said, hey, we

843
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: want you to go to because you know they called

844
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: they said, hey man, we want you to go to

845
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: Superman Premiere Color. Remember that after I wanted Miami. They

846
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: wanted me to go to Superman premiere. Yeah, so so

847
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: look I told him, I said, no, I don't want

848
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: to go to Superman premerre. He's like two million. So

849
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: we had one, got me playing I'm in l A on.

850
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: The Red Company. Yeah.

851
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he got paid more than the guy that played.

852
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: So I was there and I was like, yep, I

853
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: got one, and then I kind of I was kind

854
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: of done, but then he won and then he won again.

855
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: I was like, That's why I was like, I met

856
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: my last three years. I was championship, championship changed because

857
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: if I can get five and he got fired. But

858
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: the fact that he got fired and I got four

859
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: draws me crazy.

860
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: He really does.

861
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 5: I'm excited for you, Jason, and that when I watched

862
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: your documentary, I was taken aback at the point where

863
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: you were so worried about what you were going to

864
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 5: do in retirement, where you were looking at raising cattle.

865
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: I got I got twenty head of cattle, and now

866
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: the uh no, there it's a it's like a.

867
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm scared, scared. I live on a farm in

868
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: Georgia with no animals, but.

869
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: I'm you're afraid of the animals, which animals?

870
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Any animal? Bro? What the hell am I going to

871
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: do with a cow?

872
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not no offense. I know I'm not the

873
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: guy who want to get the cows and do the meat.

874
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to do that. So the fact that

875
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to touch him and play with him

876
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: and feed.

877
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: Them, are you is it? What?

878
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: Is it?

879
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Just crop crop land? What do you doing? The bro?

880
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: He's got like basketball hoops out there. It's it's a

881
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 5: drone racing field. That sounds that sounds pretty fun. I

882
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: got fres of trees. But I I just know I

883
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 5: see the way that you're attacking like life right now

884
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: now with the podcast and everything. Yeah, it's like you

885
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 5: weren't even looking for it and it happened.

886
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm set up for It's incredible.

887
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of opportunities and things that are going

888
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: to be available to do in retirement. But I'm also

889
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: cognizant after talking to everybody that's played, that none of

890
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: that is going to be the same as playing.

891
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: So that's why he DJs. This is actually a really

892
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: good conversation. Yeah.

893
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 5: The reason he did he always said it's the closest

894
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: he's ever felt to walking out at Staples and there's

895
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: twenty thousand people.

896
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: Just because you're live in front of a bunch of people, Like,

897
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: what makes you feel that way?

898
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't like to use the D word, but when

899
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: I stopped playing, I was doing I've never done before,

900
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: talking to neighbors.

901
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: And again.

902
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: I had another year in Boston, but I had the injury,

903
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: so I didn't have any deals or anything. So I'm

904
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: just at my house. I like, I usually like wake

905
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: up at ten to go to practice. I wake up

906
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 3: at ten, be like, I don't have nothing to do

907
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: to that. Yeah, so I'd go to like I was

908
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: actually looking for people to go hey, check because I

909
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: didn't have it. So one time I went to this

910
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: tournament and tso was go for me. It was one

911
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people out there, and that when it came out,

912
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: it felt like it felt like it felt like Kobe.

913
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: Next time you cross Scotty peeping up, throw't aloud, and

914
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: they just felt like that. So then I used to

915
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: DJ and high school and college. I said, so now

916
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: I'm like one of the biggest DJ. But that's why

917
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: I did because I actually lose money DJ. But that

918
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: hour hour and a half. That the banging and the

919
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: jumping up and now five's that like adrenaline.

920
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 5: We will never understand. So that's what you've heard from

921
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: former players is you'll never get to.

922
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: Touch I was just talking.

923
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Most of the guys I've talked to have said something similar,

924
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: and I think Chris Long said it really well, which is,

925
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: when you're playing, you're like this with your your You're

926
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: you're winning the highest the highs, you're losing the lowest

927
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: lows and your emotions and the way you're riding it

928
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: or like this and this and this right, and then

929
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: once you're done playing, you're like this, and they they

930
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: it feels weird and it takes a while to get

931
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: used to that. I mean, I've never done it. I

932
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: haven't done it yet, but it's coming. And I think

933
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: that's I thought he did a good job of explaining

934
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: that was you almost feel like you're you're like it's

935
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: it's like, why am I not having that that that

936
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: insane high that I had when I was playing football?

937
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: So I think you need to DJ is why I

938
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: don't know that I can do.

939
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: I can play saxophone, shut up, I haven't done well

940
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: baritone saxophone.

941
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: I can play out this done a few notes on stage.

942
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: Who does DJ? Who wants to DJ? I got him?

943
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: Got him if he opened up for Taylor's with You

944
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: know that's crazy.

945
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: He does this every time he's in his phone. He

946
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: finds the song and then he finds what the hook

947
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: is based off of. That's like his favorite thing to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

948
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: he's all into it.

949
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: So my advice all we do.

950
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 5: By the way, at backstage at TNT, everyone we're watching

951
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 5: the games, but it's shock being like, when's the last

952
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: time you heard this?

953
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: My advice to you is, if you are going to retire,

954
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: accept it. Enjoy your family.

955
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: Brother.

956
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: I made a lot of mistakes to where I lost

957
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: my family and I didn't have anybody.

958
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: That's not the case for you.

959
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: So enjoy your beautiful wife, enjoy your beautiful kids, and

960
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: never dwell on what we had. What we had is

961
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: what we got. You got the ring. People know who

962
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: you are. Enjoy it because again I was. I was

963
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 3: an idiot and I've talked about it a long time.

964
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: Lost my whole family. It's been one hundred thousand square

965
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: for the house by myself. That's when I got But

966
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: again the way I was raised up. Yeah, man, up,

967
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: deal with it. But you know so. So that's my advice.

968
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming, brother, You're the man, A big fan

969
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: of your us. Thank you so much. Tell mom and

970
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Dad and hopefully I'll see you at the super Bowl

971
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: and tell miss Taylor Swift. I just want to shake

972
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: her head. I think you mean. I don't want no

973
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: picture or none. I just want to say that I

974
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: met a legend. All right, thank you, brother, appreciate.

975
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: We do have some more problems money, no problem.

976
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: What happened the clip that continues to spread around the

977
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 5: world of when I asked, do you open up emotionally

978
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 5: to women? And you said no, you shouldn't do that

979
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 5: else you'll throw it back in your face. Shannon Sharp

980
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 5: brought it up to your good friend Monique, and Monique

981
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 5: had this.

982
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: To say, how do you take advice from a man

983
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: who has no woman?

984
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: And I love Shaq, but how do you take advice

985
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: from my brother that has no one?

986
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: She said, I love my baby, I love my brother, Shaq,

987
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 5: but who do you open up to?

988
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: So she she did disagree with me. The answer my

989
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: beautiful sister, and I love you too. Monique.

990
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: First of all, let me address this. We can have

991
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: respectful disagreements without getting personal. And I would never get

992
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: personal with miss Monique. I'll never get personal with a

993
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: woman on air on social media.

994
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: I love Monique, she knows I love her, but I'm

995
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: going to address her questions. She used the word pill

996
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: up talk. I don't pill up talk.

997
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: She used the word shack. Doesn't have a woman, really, Monique, Monique?

998
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Really?

999
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: But who do I open up to nobody and let

1000
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 3: me tell you why. Because my remedy to success is

1001
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: I have sayings like, for example, on the way over here,

1002
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: I saw seven homeless people, bro who am out of complaint.

1003
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: I flew here private, I got my whole crew with me.

1004
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 3: We got a million dollar a week. So, in other words,

1005
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: before I started getting off side, I said, shut it up,

1006
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: man and figure it out. So, therefore, all the problems

1007
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: that I have, I have to define that they're really problems,

1008
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: and they're not. There's people with far worse problems than

1009
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: I got, and I feel for those people. So I

1010
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: don't and complain because again, I was raised by a

1011
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: drill sergeant, and I'm glad he raised me.

1012
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Either way, he raised me. So to answer to my

1013
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: beautiful sisters. Mounique.

1014
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 3: When I have problems, I have to define if they're

1015
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: real problems, and most of the time they're not. He

1016
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: said something about me, she said somethingboy.

1017
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that guy.

1018
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm here and the reason why I'm here because so

1019
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: many people depend on me. My mother depends on me.

1020
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: I ain't got time to be solved. My father told me,

1021
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: you don't play well, your mama gonna lose a house.

1022
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: Imagine that pressure. So I'm not gonna be there, be

1023
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm gonna get my mama in new house.

1024
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 5: The only time where I think I've seen you emotionals

1025
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: when you went through that awful stretch with family loss. Yes,

1026
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: do you go to family in times like were you able?

1027
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 5: Or do family members come to you.

1028
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna be emotional about my sister and Kobe

1029
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: k It's my fault. What I mean by it is

1030
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: my fault. I could have been a bigger man and

1031
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: be like baby sister, I love you, Cole, what's up,

1032
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 3: my boy?

1033
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: Like when you're a leader, you don't have to wait,

1034
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: and in those moments you look at the situation and you.

1035
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: Always think you have time. I always think you have time, like,

1036
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: I need to start calling you more. I know I

1037
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: see you every Tuesday, but I need to. I can't

1038
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 3: take dry and see you every day, and you're gonna

1039
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: see me.

1040
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 6: So that's why you say I love you all the time.

1041
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 6: But I respect that's gonna always be with me. But

1042
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 6: then again, but then again, I'm not gonna be at

1043
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 6: home pillow talking. Tell us somebody. It's just something I

1044
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 6: deal with, and I deal with it my own way.

1045
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: To talk on that pillow. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yes, exactly.

1046
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: But now game the clip that went viral, this is

1047
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: just me. Yeah, you don't have to use my method.

1048
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: You asked me what I do, and I say no,

1049
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: But I like it because people can agree. I disagree,

1050
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: but this is who I am and I'm not going

1051
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: to change.

1052
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not asking other people to do the same.

1053
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 3: I'm just saying this is not nothing I do because

1054
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm taught to be a man's man. Man. Yeah, if

1055
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: you got problems, deal with it. Don't put those problems

1056
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: on your wife.

1057
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: And your kids. Deal with it.

1058
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: Sucker that I love you too, my sister, and I

1059
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: appreciate the back and forth. And you know I always

1060
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: got your back, baby, I love you.

1061
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1062
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: Is.

1063
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 5: The thing I respected about Monique is that it was

1064
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 5: never an insult to you. That was just her read

1065
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: on the situation. And you know what, because I watched

1066
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: the whole interview, she talked about how her recent relationship

1067
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 5: saved her life, and so I could tell that's sharing

1068
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: with her man is important to her.

1069
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: It's not important to everybody.

1070
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: And I think, and I hope I don't get in

1071
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: trouble of this. I think women are way more and

1072
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: more shold the man they are. And as a woman,

1073
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: you're supposed to invite to your man because he's supposed

1074
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: to take care of him, because a man's three jobs

1075
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: to protect, provide, and love. So, baby, if you've got

1076
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: a problem, you come to me, but me not having

1077
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: a woman.

1078
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: Come on Monique.

1079
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 5: As always in a comment section, you can ask doctor

1080
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 5: O'Neill uh, And of course you can tweet or instagram

1081
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 5: message our handles for the Big Podcast with Sheck Marcus

1082
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: from Orlando. Okay, Dear doctor O'Neill, my wife caught our

1083
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 5: sixteen year old son trying to place sports bets with

1084
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: my account. When she confronted him about it, he said,

1085
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 5: he learned it from me. She wants me to talk

1086
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: to him, but I feel like I'm being a hypocrite

1087
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 5: if I do. How would you handle it? This is

1088
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 5: a tough one.

1089
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: This is a reward or punishment type of answer. Let's

1090
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: go with the reward. He's a good student like you.

1091
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: All A's and All B's sixteen, about to be seventeen,

1092
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: about to be eighteen.

1093
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: Talk to him like a man.

1094
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you say boy, girl, son, boy, So you say, son,

1095
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: I know this is what I do.

1096
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Well.

1097
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: First of all, you messed up by using my account

1098
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: without my permission. Now you got to do a certain

1099
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: amount of chores to pay me this money back. And

1100
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: this is why I do it. I do it because

1101
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: I pay all the bills round here. I'm allowed to

1102
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 3: do it. You're not allowed to do this yet. So

1103
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: the fact that you do it behind my back, I'm

1104
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: upset with you, but I'm still proud of you. Got

1105
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: all A's boom boom boom bo. But you gotta do

1106
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: this now, he's a bad kid. You gotta punish him

1107
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 3: all the way. Cut grass wash dishes, do this, do that,

1108
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 3: and then you give him me and send him. Say hey,

1109
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 3: when you get your brave drop when you get eighteen,

1110
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: maybe we can do something together. So like when I

1111
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: like punish my kids, I my dad went all the

1112
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: way with me.

1113
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: I don't go all the way like I get him.

1114
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: Someone saying like, for example, clean your room up, but

1115
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: you're planning playing playing the PlayStation take it away. You

1116
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: clean your room up twenty days in a row. I

1117
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: get your new PlayStation five. Dad, it's not even out check.

1118
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: I'm dad, I can make it.

1119
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: I'm sack.

1120
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: So a lot of times I take the punishment and

1121
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: use a motivation rather than going I don't know what

1122
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: type of kid he is, so I can't say go

1123
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: hard or go solve. That's why I had to give

1124
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 3: you both scenarios. But sixteen seventy's not a kid.

1125
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: Spankings are over. Just have an adult conversation.

1126
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 5: Now, I am not a doctor, unlike doctor O'Neil, but

1127
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to give unsolicited doctor lefko advice.

1128
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Mine is not official.

1129
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 5: If you are having a hard time not gambling yourself,

1130
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 5: I think that you need to also have a conversation

1131
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 5: because if this is something that you are trying to

1132
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: hide from the family and you feel bad that your

1133
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 5: son's doing it and you don't want to say anything

1134
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: because you don't want to stop. It's an epidemic in

1135
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 5: our country right now. And I do think that you

1136
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 5: need to have a conversation with yourself.

1137
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: I need to get the true definition of addic from you.

1138
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: So if I gamble every day, that makes.

1139
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: Me not gamble. An attic for me is this you're losing.

1140
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 5: If you're losing, you know that you shouldn't, but you

1141
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 5: need to get that bet in okay, And it's not

1142
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 5: even about the game.

1143
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: You don't even need to watch the game.

1144
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 5: I know people bro that don't even watch the game,

1145
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 5: but they have to have money out there.

1146
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: Because they need that rush. And I learned from a

1147
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: lot of gambling addicts.

1148
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 5: You know what, they say that that rush of maybe

1149
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: losing is bigger than the win, which to me is

1150
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 5: some scary Well.

1151
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: Can you be an addict if you win all the time?

1152
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: I still think if if you're out of your kids

1153
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: birthday party and you're not paying attention because you're trying

1154
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 5: to get these games, if you're not living life and

1155
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 5: you're focused in that app I think it's an addict.

1156
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: What do you think? I don't know. Well, when things

1157
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: are great. The addictions hide themselves, Like when I'm out here,

1158
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: I was on one gamble O lows. But how do

1159
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: you gamble? Are you gonna put a bet on the

1160
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: Super Bowl?

1161
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 3: No?

1162
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know how to gamble like that.

1163
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: So what is not white guy gambling? Yeah? I don't

1164
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: know how to white guy gamble. So what kind of

1165
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: black guy gambling are you doing out here?

1166
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Shane, producer of the podcast Big Podcast, Number one podcast.

1167
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: I bet you one hundred dollars. Uh, Travis Kelsey don't

1168
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: get a touchdown like we just I don't do the

1169
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 3: uh send the No, I don't.

1170
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know yours? Are yours? Are happen or

1171
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: not happen? Not happen? So do they have those bets

1172
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: and bags? Yes they do.

1173
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 5: They're called money line bets. So you could bet Chiefs

1174
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: to win or Niners to win. You and Travis are

1175
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 5: so different in the type of white guy, in the

1176
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: type of white guy.

1177
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: All right,