Speaker 1: Yep, yep, there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: welcome to a rerelease. That's right, our first re release
Speaker 1: of a episode of My Mama told me. Now, I
Speaker 1: know a few of you. All six of you have
Speaker 1: been listening to this podcast for nearly a year now.
Speaker 1: Our first release was about a year from now, and
Speaker 1: we thought it would be fun for those who have
Speaker 1: not made it all the way through the M M
Speaker 1: T M vault. It's sort of like teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,
Speaker 1: but we mixed the letters up. That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: But we have a vault filled with amazing episodes, and
Speaker 1: so we thought it would be really fun to re
Speaker 1: release one of my absolute favorite episodes featuring one of
Speaker 1: my absolute favorite people, yes Or Lester, where we talked
Speaker 1: to him about one of maybe the most provocative conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories we could have picked, certainly for one of our
Speaker 1: first episodes. We did not have to start this way,
Speaker 1: and yet we did. Now. I love this episode and
Speaker 1: I think you'll love it too, So please enjoy, and
Speaker 1: as always, if you want to send me drops, if
Speaker 1: you want to send me your conspiracy theories, if you
Speaker 1: want to say slightly Neggie things to me, like many
Speaker 1: of my fans apparently like to do. You can send
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Speaker 1: podcast on Apple podcast or wherever you do that stuff.
Speaker 1: It doesn't just have to be Apple, although Apples the
Speaker 1: one I check. Everything else doesn't matter to me. That
Speaker 1: ain't Cannon as far as I'm concerned. So do that
Speaker 1: on the Apple podcast app and do it before I
Speaker 1: get upset. Okay, bye, bitch. It's so weird how like
Speaker 1: the person you are in high school, unless you make
Speaker 1: drastic changes, is kind of just who you forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you carry the one on that personality. Yeah. Absolutely. They
Speaker 1: used to do those episodes of like Ricky Lake where
Speaker 1: they would be like I used to be a dork
Speaker 1: in high school, but now I'm fucking hot, and like
Speaker 1: they'd come out, you remember, and they'd like yell at
Speaker 1: the person who bullied them. But even when they would
Speaker 1: come out, you could still see a dork in them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, because a loser would
Speaker 1: be like I gotta get Ricky Lake to show someone
Speaker 1: who hasn't thought about me in twenty two years. You
Speaker 1: mean that this lady with the whole family, you're gonna
Speaker 1: yell at her because she was mean to you when
Speaker 1: she was sixteen? Girl? The fucker racist? You can't tell me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a spectacular
Speaker 1: I'm wonderful, a beautiful, big tittied episode of My Mama
Speaker 1: told me the podcast where we died Deep Deep go
Speaker 1: underground into the world of black conspiracy theories, and we
Speaker 1: worked to finally prove that Jaden Smith can in fact
Speaker 1: talked to fish. That Nigga died his eyebrows blonde for
Speaker 1: a reason. Humans didn't tell him to do that. A
Speaker 1: fish told him that. A trout named Harold said, Jaden,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a fish. You should look more
Speaker 1: like a fish. Make your eyebrows disappear into your face.
Speaker 1: We know you can talk to fish, Jaden, and we
Speaker 1: are going to prove it. I'm Langston Kerman, I'm your host.
Speaker 1: As always, I'm having me I'm having a weird day.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Today I discovered that and I didn't
Speaker 1: know this, and I'm a very ignorant person. Apparently the
Speaker 1: phrase time these twins is racist and no idea. This
Speaker 1: whole time, I just thought I never knew that that
Speaker 1: Siam was a real place. I just thought that was
Speaker 1: the name that they picked for those twins that are
Speaker 1: stuck together. But as it turns out, we were driving
Speaker 1: my wife and not driving past a restaurant they claimed
Speaker 1: to sell Siamese food, and I said, well, why are
Speaker 1: they selling Siamese food? What is Siamese food? Is that
Speaker 1: like when two chickens are pressed up against each other
Speaker 1: and they cook it? Anyway, I didn't know, and she said, no,
Speaker 1: Siam is a real place. And then I said, oh no,
Speaker 1: that means that that word that white people came up with,
Speaker 1: it's just me. It was just two kids apparently born
Speaker 1: with their elbows stuck together. And then white people are like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna be your country's thing forever and
Speaker 1: always name the evils of America. Well that covers that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this my next guest. He ain't evil.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. He's a lovely human being. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited that he's here. You know him from Oh Man,
Speaker 1: you know him from Black Monday. It's a hilarious show.
Speaker 1: That he both writes on it and has a Didn't
Speaker 1: you know him from Duncanville? You know him from writing
Speaker 1: on black a m huh. You know him from trolling
Speaker 1: Jimmy John's on the internet because he told me, and
Speaker 1: I'm quoted here, he fox the subway and he doesn't
Speaker 1: think Jared did it. That's what he said. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll find out more about that when I invite him
Speaker 1: on Please welcome my hilarious desk. Mr Yes and Lester
Speaker 1: every dollar. Yeah. Let me let me clarify something I
Speaker 1: didn't say. Jared didn't do it. I said he did it,
Speaker 1: and I don't care right fair enough, you're like this
Speaker 1: bug me give me my five dollar foot loan. I
Speaker 1: was specifically, I'll go to subway, get come back home.
Speaker 1: Look at cabinets on wayfair. I don't care if a
Speaker 1: woman comes to these. I'm anyway. My kids needs a
Speaker 1: cabinet regardless. What's that guy's doing with me? Now you're
Speaker 1: talking about botuses. If you find a kid in your cabinet,
Speaker 1: you're gonna send it back now. Now you got a kid,
Speaker 1: You got a kid. And what they don't tell you
Speaker 1: is is that like you can also you don't gotta
Speaker 1: keep the kid. You gotta you can tell the kid,
Speaker 1: and then that's to come up for you. You could
Speaker 1: do then It's like you didn't pay nothing for the cabinet,
Speaker 1: right you You could do the right thing or the
Speaker 1: wrong thing with that. That's your choice. Why are you
Speaker 1: making this up an issue for Wayfair? They're just doing
Speaker 1: good business? Oh my god. Like, first of all, and
Speaker 1: I know this is the conspiracy we're talking about, but
Speaker 1: I will say the thing that always cracks, like, especially
Speaker 1: with that one, I was just like, you think you're
Speaker 1: the one who cracked the case. I'm saying all these people,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you think you think Wayfair didn't think enough
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, let's name it exactly after murder
Speaker 1: children and kidnapped children. Make it twelve thousand dollars. But
Speaker 1: no one will suspect the thing. I hope a fifteen
Speaker 1: year old doesn't come on the website like it's just
Speaker 1: so crazy. It's so it is wild that they were
Speaker 1: like the biggest way to crack this code is I'm
Speaker 1: pointing out this one's named Rebecca, so there's probably a
Speaker 1: lady named Rebecca in here. It's like, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's how you If I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: kidnap a kid, I'm probably not gonna do it that.
Speaker 1: But well, it's like you're not the same name, the
Speaker 1: same name, like if any it's more to me it
Speaker 1: reads more like, you know how like Disney animators are
Speaker 1: like all right, make sure the pastor has a boner made.
Speaker 1: Like it's like a like it's gross and weird, but
Speaker 1: like there's nothing. There's not kids behind the boards of
Speaker 1: Disney like you know, doing like weird sex stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: It's to me, it's it's more like that, like it's
Speaker 1: just some weird guys, Like I'm gonna name these kids.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this after the lady I follow home and
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, now you're weird for sure, but there's
Speaker 1: not a kid in there. You just got some ship
Speaker 1: to work out. Yeah, so anyway, that's great. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you're here. Dog good. Yeah, you know, me and
Speaker 1: you just worked together on the b T Awards, So
Speaker 1: there's a time catching up since the dog. Fine, I
Speaker 1: moved in the middle of this, which has been a nightmare. Kay,
Speaker 1: bro Like, and this is gonna be on a racist tip,
Speaker 1: but I gotta say so hold on, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: that's how they get go ahead. So my girlfriend Chelsea,
Speaker 1: who you know you worked with her on Hilarious Lankston
Speaker 1: Kerman was an actor on, so she hired movers for us.
Speaker 1: They end up being Russian, which whatever, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not ideal in these times, but here we are.
Speaker 1: It feels like they should like that we got a
Speaker 1: preface with us, so you know we're Russian, like gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna come through with the accents and all that.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we were really Russian. We're like
Speaker 1: we're like old school, like you know, James Bond, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't own nothing but track suits. That's
Speaker 1: that's the kind of energy I'm coming with. But like
Speaker 1: to the point where it was like an older dude
Speaker 1: who was balding and then like clearly like his nineteen
Speaker 1: year old son. And it was like one of those
Speaker 1: things where I was just like for the sun, I
Speaker 1: was like, what you do, like work on like one
Speaker 1: of them troll farms, like you know what, Like you're
Speaker 1: you're a Moore, you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 1: don't know how to use a phone, bro, Like young
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial boy, you should be you should be hacking our
Speaker 1: our government. What are you doing? You would have a
Speaker 1: better life back in Russia just sitting in one of
Speaker 1: them rooms, you know. Anyway, I digress. So they show
Speaker 1: up and like, what would any other time be, like, oh,
Speaker 1: Walmart gigantic like Walmart store size eighteen wheeler, like the
Speaker 1: gigantic ones. We have a one bedroom apartment or like whatever.
Speaker 1: It's unnecessary, but all right, yeah, they load up half
Speaker 1: my apartment. They're like, all right, that's all we can
Speaker 1: fit for y'all. And we were like what. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, sorry, we have a whole other household on
Speaker 1: the truck. So we're just squeezing y'all on. It was
Speaker 1: just like all right, we gotta take this ut. So
Speaker 1: that's so my point is, it's like we were so
Speaker 1: scared of them being Russian that we took the l
Speaker 1: on them being bad movers. You know, this wasn't based
Speaker 1: on like culture. This was just too bad movers who
Speaker 1: packed you guys in together. No, man, that it was
Speaker 1: because here's the thing it felt like, and honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be real, this is where the race part comes.
Speaker 1: It's like it felt like they knew that we couldn't
Speaker 1: say nothing because they're Russian. Yeah that makes sense. Like
Speaker 1: the kids, it was like a lot of like long
Speaker 1: looks at us and we're like, all right, just hired
Speaker 1: to scrab it you you both have very ethnic names.
Speaker 1: Is They probably looked at all the reports and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna we'll do whatever. Yeah, we'll do
Speaker 1: whatever we want. Are we gonna give them their own truck?
Speaker 1: It was so crazy, but I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like their time, and like I mean it
Speaker 1: for you, like online and stuff, Like I hate the
Speaker 1: argument that people are like Russians did all this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Russians planted seeds, but like Russians weren't at the voting booths,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like they just convinced y'all.
Speaker 1: They were just sending out blasts and then a bunch
Speaker 1: of y'all wanted this to happen. Yeah they didn't. They
Speaker 1: didn't do anything that specially, Yeah exactly. It wasn't great.
Speaker 1: So like I'm usually just like yeah, Russia, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: but this time I was like, oh, I feel like
Speaker 1: I know I can't do nothing right now. First they
Speaker 1: came from my national election and I said nothing. Then
Speaker 1: they came from my furniture and I drew him motherfucking line.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that it is so funny. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I was. Yeah, I was. I was scared. But
Speaker 1: you know, goodness, that's all life is. Bend dog. I
Speaker 1: don't do nothing. I don't know, but I mean, you're
Speaker 1: like out there exercising at all. I don't do nothing.
Speaker 1: I run and then I come back inside. That's pretty
Speaker 1: much it. It ain't it's not that deep, but you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta figure out ways to stay saying and all
Speaker 1: of this. I figured if I somehow could get buff
Speaker 1: before the industry opens back up and they have to
Speaker 1: talk to me different, then I'll have saved my career somehow.
Speaker 1: It's not working, as you can plainly see. But no,
Speaker 1: but your face is definitely because here's the thing you have,
Speaker 1: because are you You're a drinker. I drink. I used
Speaker 1: to drink a lot more Now I'm like very occasionally
Speaker 1: I'll drink. Okay, see, I was gonna say, as someone
Speaker 1: who used to drink and doesn't anymore, I noticed I
Speaker 1: can tell when people stop their face. And so I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, yeah you stopped, yeah you stopped, or
Speaker 1: your working out a lot, but it's probably a mix
Speaker 1: of both as well. I'll take it. I used to
Speaker 1: be a fatty. Now I'm not what I can get.
Speaker 1: Speaking of fear, we're talking about fear. I had a
Speaker 1: little bit of nervousness going into your conspiracy theory. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest. Oh you have. You've presented one that arguably
Speaker 1: is one of our most challenging to enter into in
Speaker 1: today's era in but I'm very excited to introduce it
Speaker 1: because you were. You also were the fastest person of
Speaker 1: all time to respond to the question of what would
Speaker 1: you like your conspiracy theory to be? No one has
Speaker 1: fast It's alwayst as if I'm always thinking about it.
Speaker 1: It felt like you had the email drafted already and
Speaker 1: we're just waiting for someone to ask what you're thinking about, yasir,
Speaker 1: and you you asked, and it's beautiful. You said, my
Speaker 1: mama told me Rusher and Sierra used to be hermaphrodites,
Speaker 1: And boy, oh boy, did my jaw dropped. And before
Speaker 1: we go any further, because I want to hear all
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Before we go any further, I want to
Speaker 1: be clear for our listeners at home that that word
Speaker 1: is not a word that we use for people. It
Speaker 1: is an outdated word. The correct terminology is inter center sex.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly. However, at the time that we were growing up,
Speaker 1: that was the word that that conspiracy theory sort of
Speaker 1: came out of. I never heard the word intersex until
Speaker 1: like three years ago, and unfortunately, everybody was just running
Speaker 1: around calling Sierra and usher hermaphrodites. So please, yas there,
Speaker 1: tell me more about this conspiracy theory. So, and this
Speaker 1: is where we get into the like, this is where
Speaker 1: we get into the weeds of it a little bit,
Speaker 1: because so many conspiracy theories, as someone who genuinely loves them,
Speaker 1: so many conspiracy theories usually have a thread of like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, Like it's not that you can follow it perfectly,
Speaker 1: but you can tug on it and get back to
Speaker 1: where you started. Right. This one, truly the only thing,
Speaker 1: the only thing I can think of, because I really
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time, and here's the thing I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't as smart as to like go research it.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I wasn't reading your book studying
Speaker 1: your science because like here's the thing. It's like it
Speaker 1: was I think, well, you know, and I hope this
Speaker 1: doesn't step on any other ones. But we're roughly the
Speaker 1: same age, a few years older than you. But this
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory hit the ground running around the same time
Speaker 1: as Marilyn Manson had his ribs removed, so he, you know,
Speaker 1: give himself head. And then that little Kim backstage one night,
Speaker 1: you know, gave blowy Jay's to so many dudes she
Speaker 1: had to get her stomach pump so like, so it's
Speaker 1: like number one is like a sixth grader who has
Speaker 1: no concept of sex as is like you know, like
Speaker 1: I feel like sixth grade girls get it because they
Speaker 1: have to. Like we just live in a society sadly
Speaker 1: that like if they don't have the knowledge, dudes take
Speaker 1: advantage of them, and sad these usually older men blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. So like usually thank goodness, women have like
Speaker 1: a a better a better grasp all these things sex
Speaker 1: until and I mean this from the bottom of my heart,
Speaker 1: I feel like no man knows anything about sex until
Speaker 1: he actually has it. Like it doesn't matter how many
Speaker 1: books you've read, it doesn't matter how many stories you've heard.
Speaker 1: It's like, once you're actually in the act, you're like, whoa, there,
Speaker 1: we have no concept of like where things actually go
Speaker 1: or what it's supposed to feel like, it's just all theoretical.
Speaker 1: And then you get inside of a person and you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take it easy. I think I get
Speaker 1: it now, and even then, and even then I would
Speaker 1: say like I think at like time number ten, it's
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh, I got it. Like well, that's
Speaker 1: why we're also trash at it in the beginning, because
Speaker 1: we didn't know anything to start off with. And then
Speaker 1: that's tacked on top of the fact that we're not
Speaker 1: smart enough for intuitive enough to figure it out quickly,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like men are. We're not
Speaker 1: sitting there studying and figuring it out. We're just like
Speaker 1: looking at it and being like, oh, that's different than
Speaker 1: I thought. And then we like, you know, run and go,
Speaker 1: come and try to figure it out again the next time.
Speaker 1: Oh god, um, so as you know, as you so
Speaker 1: eloquently stated, so it's like you don't know anything. So
Speaker 1: it's like not only that, not only do you not
Speaker 1: know anything about the act, like being intersects. It's a
Speaker 1: very that's a very nuanced conversation for even for even
Speaker 1: for the most expert mind in terms of like what
Speaker 1: that means not just for the person, but for society
Speaker 1: at large, you know. And then like the Marilyn Manson thing,
Speaker 1: it's like you clearly don't know enough about anatomy to
Speaker 1: know that that's impossible. It's that didn't help that much,
Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, And then it's like pray, it's just like
Speaker 1: you didn't extend to your spine. You got rid of
Speaker 1: the other part that if you couldn't do sit ups before,
Speaker 1: you're not like doing them better because your ribs are smaller, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not the issue here, bro. So that would be
Speaker 1: funny if you just saw a dude with like a
Speaker 1: fourteen pack. It's like, oh, I got I got my
Speaker 1: ribs removed. I got one removed, and now I'm super
Speaker 1: buffin dick, stay wet, don't matter who's sucking it. I
Speaker 1: got my dick. It's so sad. So So anyways, as
Speaker 1: I was saying about tracing the threat, the only thing
Speaker 1: I can truly truly think of is that they are
Speaker 1: both phenomenal performers and dancers. And are like for the
Speaker 1: sadly for the sierra of it all is that she,
Speaker 1: especially at the time, was so toned and so like,
Speaker 1: you know, like because there's the thing. It's like Janet
Speaker 1: Jackson was that toned. Angela Bassett was that toned, and
Speaker 1: like those conversations never came up, but I think that
Speaker 1: they were already in like they were already in the world. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, what to your point, it wasn't just
Speaker 1: that she was toned. She also was like hanging out
Speaker 1: with bow Wow. So she was taller than that's right,
Speaker 1: and so it's like, oh, this big, strong, tall lady
Speaker 1: and she's not even that tall, but at the at
Speaker 1: the time it was she was like six eight and muscular,
Speaker 1: and so a bunch of high school kids were like,
Speaker 1: this bitch, gota penis, which is like so so like
Speaker 1: because it a actually it's spotlighted on us shore and
Speaker 1: then went to see and it was just it was
Speaker 1: one of those things again that like the usher of
Speaker 1: it all never made sense other than I think it's
Speaker 1: my theory. You know. I went to very went to
Speaker 1: very hood schools till till high school, and uh so
Speaker 1: there's like all like middle school stuff, and it was
Speaker 1: truly it just felt like one dude hated that his
Speaker 1: girl like that, and he just told everyone that he
Speaker 1: was half girl, which is so crazy, but already gotta
Speaker 1: pussy on his hip, so fuck him. Because that's also
Speaker 1: the other thing that like was so especially as you
Speaker 1: you know, get older and learn about people's bodies, but
Speaker 1: like the thing that used to always throw around and
Speaker 1: be like, actually the clip is a penis. Actually, but
Speaker 1: his penis was a click, and Sierra's clip is a
Speaker 1: penis and you're like, what where to god, It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, and you're like it can't be okay, But
Speaker 1: at you know, at sixth grade, you know, in the
Speaker 1: sixth grade, you're like, oh my god, right, your whole world,
Speaker 1: your whole world is crumbling. And then you're thinking about
Speaker 1: the one crew drawing that they show you in textbooks
Speaker 1: and you're like, well it did kind of look like
Speaker 1: a tiny little dick and I don't know what to do,
Speaker 1: and you nailed it again. Because it's like this is
Speaker 1: also the rise of the Internet. Like this is when
Speaker 1: like the internet first hit schools and like there was
Speaker 1: no way to block anything, right, Teachers had no idea
Speaker 1: what like a firewall was like you could just you
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. And also it's like so
Speaker 1: much of the Internet truly owes what it is to pornography,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, pornography built the Internet, and so because of that,
Speaker 1: you could find all that stuff easier. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: truly the first two things I ever saw online were
Speaker 1: a porno site and then cartoon network dot com pictures
Speaker 1: of Dexter's from Dexter's lab that you could print out
Speaker 1: and color yourself. Those are the first and then the
Speaker 1: third thing I did was print out Bone Thugs and
Speaker 1: Harmony lyrics. I put them in a binder. I love that,
Speaker 1: I do love. I hope it happened exactly in that order.
Speaker 1: That first first you watched them porn you came, and
Speaker 1: then you came to your sense and you were like,
Speaker 1: you know what I that that was a lot. I
Speaker 1: need to color. I gotta color something. I love Dexter's lab.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna color. I can't color without music. Who did
Speaker 1: I listen to? Of course Bone Thugs and Harmony, And
Speaker 1: you sat there and you colored Dexter and you listen
Speaker 1: to Bone Thugs, and you you let your your come
Speaker 1: soak into your pants. Well here's this is even sadder thing.
Speaker 1: Look that point is at the school library looked at
Speaker 1: moren then got scared and then downloaded the Dexter's Lab
Speaker 1: thing and then printed, but then went home and then
Speaker 1: you know, thought about porn clearly, right, So the the
Speaker 1: Dexter's Lab was more sort of like to cover up
Speaker 1: your your tracks, right right, I just because I remember
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the Internet was, and I saw
Speaker 1: his commercial that was like, go to cartoon Network dot
Speaker 1: com and download a picture of Dexter, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what I gotta do that. If the TV's telling me
Speaker 1: to do it, I'm taking Nexter. Oh my god, I do.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I do think that so much of
Speaker 1: this came out in an era where there were no
Speaker 1: The Internet was sort of like the wild West. It
Speaker 1: was like Deadwood almost, just like a lawless town without
Speaker 1: any organization, and there was nobody to fact check anything.
Speaker 1: Whereas now if some sort of conspiracy like this word
Speaker 1: to come forward, it would be immediately at least refuted,
Speaker 1: if not fully dismissed. There'd be a hundred people being like, no,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, that's not true. Here's proof of
Speaker 1: that thing. But we were kids and they were just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you gotta dick under there, and we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually didn't know. Because truly, back
Speaker 1: in the day, like someone telling you something was equal
Speaker 1: to books. This presentation. I would like to cite Steve.
Speaker 1: Steve told me that if you turn to Steve verse eight,
Speaker 1: he mentioned, you know what I'm saying, someone could just
Speaker 1: be like because I mean truly, like if you were
Speaker 1: in a classroom and someone ran in and said, like
Speaker 1: someone bombed the CNN center down town, unless you like
Speaker 1: got to the news and me you just because also,
Speaker 1: most people back in the day didn't lie about stuff
Speaker 1: like that for the most part, you know what I'm saying, people,
Speaker 1: I mean, people clearly lied about like assurance, SIRA being
Speaker 1: interset like, but like mostly people it's just like news
Speaker 1: was news. Yeah, there wasn't as much of a trend
Speaker 1: of like doing it for the trolling wasn't the same thing.
Speaker 1: You were actually actually crazy if you were doing something
Speaker 1: like that. And now it's a little more of a
Speaker 1: gray area where it's like you either are crazy or
Speaker 1: you're the funniest motherfucker I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't always know which one. Yeah. So, like when
Speaker 1: someone told you something, you were just like, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean because it's also if you think about it's
Speaker 1: probably low key. How like every religion started, it was
Speaker 1: just something being like, this is what happened. You went
Speaker 1: all right, okay, so follow you. Hey, y'all. Hey, Steve
Speaker 1: said some stuff, So I'm gonna follow him. I'll cite
Speaker 1: him occasionally if that will help the group. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to ask is it a long line of Steve's
Speaker 1: or is it one Steve who's been eternal. I like
Speaker 1: to think it's a generational thing. Steve and then Steve
Speaker 1: the junior and Steve the first, and we go down
Speaker 1: the line. All right, I like that. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and then we'll be back
Speaker 1: with more Ya lesser and more. My mama told me
Speaker 1: we are back. Yeah, we're back, baby. We are back
Speaker 1: here with more Yasa lesser, and we are still talking
Speaker 1: about the history of the sex of both Usher and
Speaker 1: the era and where that all comes from. This is
Speaker 1: the question I wanted to ask, did at any point well,
Speaker 1: first of all, who specifically do you remember telling you
Speaker 1: this or is there a person specifically like a group
Speaker 1: of dudes, but I'd be gladly to say all name name.
Speaker 1: So they also here's the thing, and I this is
Speaker 1: like such a weird detail to remember. It was all
Speaker 1: the tallest dudes in my grade. So it was like
Speaker 1: it was all the dudes who were like, you know,
Speaker 1: five ten and sixth grade. One of them was named
Speaker 1: I swear to guy. His name was Brittain but it
Speaker 1: was b r I T t O N and like
Speaker 1: he only wore he was just like it was crazy
Speaker 1: because he wasn't particularly good looking, but he was just
Speaker 1: like so fresh, like he was always like I don't
Speaker 1: know if this made as to Chicago, but just always
Speaker 1: like an Apollo and like some like Tommy Hill figure
Speaker 1: like Carpenter Gene or some rebox. He was just always
Speaker 1: losty like that. Then there was this other dude, Timmy,
Speaker 1: who like less fresh, I can ask less wrong. They
Speaker 1: were like trying to figure it out, but he was
Speaker 1: he was like six three, Like they were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to have him play for like the
Speaker 1: high school team in sixth grade. Like it's like crazy.
Speaker 1: They were trying to do that that thing that people
Speaker 1: do with like Dominican kids, R yeah him up instead
Speaker 1: of bump him down like he's he's old. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: it was it was Britain and Timmy and then the
Speaker 1: last dude was Edward and Edward. I remember, like, so
Speaker 1: Edwards was like so many weird I'm gonna leave out
Speaker 1: the dude the last dude's names because I don't want
Speaker 1: to put him on blast, like Edward's kind of Edwards cousin.
Speaker 1: The cousin's dad broke out of prison while we were
Speaker 1: all on school, Like we were at school and like
Speaker 1: a news bulletin came up and they were like so
Speaker 1: you know, like they like said a dude and the
Speaker 1: kid who it was like started crying and we were like, nigga,
Speaker 1: this is incredible, Like your dad got out of jail. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's like no, I'm the one that put him in.
Speaker 1: Oh God, coming to kill me? Why are y'all cheering?
Speaker 1: Please stop this? Oh my god, that would have been
Speaker 1: worth it. But so then the last dude was Edward,
Speaker 1: and Edward was always wearing a Reggie Miller Indiana Pacers,
Speaker 1: Jersey Love that. All those were the dudes they're like
Speaker 1: there like Loki like mobbed on me, like just like
Speaker 1: rolled up on me and was just you know, ushers
Speaker 1: or her Ma, Like I didn't I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, if you're telling me to tell
Speaker 1: people like you guys seem like cool dudes, I repeat, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: look I got no qualms about repeating something that just
Speaker 1: heard from three people that barely talk to listen. I've
Speaker 1: ben't figuring myself out enough to feel confident to tell
Speaker 1: you know that's not true. So yeah, I'll go tell
Speaker 1: more people and will create a violent and dangerous admens
Speaker 1: to be around the school, more so for people that
Speaker 1: are struggling with their inter sexuality. So thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for choosing me to be your mouth. Oh and
Speaker 1: then for high school, it was because that's when the
Speaker 1: Sierra thing was happening, right or maybe right before. But
Speaker 1: it had to have been Mohomie Mark or Mohomie Eugene
Speaker 1: because they were because they were most likely was Eugene,
Speaker 1: like we all worked at McDonald's together, and Eugene, like Mark,
Speaker 1: was from Detroit, so he and he had like the
Speaker 1: older brother who rapped and like we were always just
Speaker 1: like trying to get Mark. He was like varsity basketball
Speaker 1: freshman year high school, like man, like Mark is doing it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But like I was the
Speaker 1: weird kind of like our kid who was trying to
Speaker 1: be funny. And then Eugene was just like this spacey
Speaker 1: like weirdo. Anyway, So those are people that told me
Speaker 1: about it. And then like again, like I'll say this
Speaker 1: the Usher thing, I fully believed. I just like fully
Speaker 1: believed it from the the Sierra thing. Right, Well, that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump in here because that that actually is
Speaker 1: really fascinating to me because it wasn't one that I
Speaker 1: think that I heard when I was growing up. Oh interesting,
Speaker 1: I had heard a lot of speculation about his sexuality
Speaker 1: and him, but not a lot about like the possibility
Speaker 1: of him having you know, multiple sex sex organs. But
Speaker 1: I will say that it fits within a a world
Speaker 1: of theories that you know what I mean, or a
Speaker 1: type of theory that made perfect sense to me. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't me reading that and going get the funk
Speaker 1: out of here. It was more like I could see
Speaker 1: that I can see how we as kids would have
Speaker 1: accused him of being intersex or whatever, you know, hurtful word.
Speaker 1: We were then, but even in right, you know us,
Speaker 1: you got a Cybes ding dong. That's right, they fused together. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't want to tell nobody because he's say it
Speaker 1: helps his dancing. That's how he danced so good, because
Speaker 1: that's all. That's part of it, which is so crazy
Speaker 1: that they were always but that's how he could do
Speaker 1: that so good. It's just like, I'm sorry him having
Speaker 1: both like anyway, sorry, no, it helps him move his
Speaker 1: hips in a way that a man never should be
Speaker 1: able to. So crazy. But so with that, most of
Speaker 1: the research that I attempted to dig up about this,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot about Usher. It just there isn't
Speaker 1: a lot. Whereas with Sierra there's a ship ton and
Speaker 1: of her literally having to go on interviews, multiple interviews,
Speaker 1: and deny the possibility that she's intersect And the worst
Speaker 1: part about it is, and I didn't realize this until
Speaker 1: I'm like digging all this stuff up, she was fucking seventeen.
Speaker 1: She was a child. This was a child being like
Speaker 1: ha ha ha nah No, I'm not a boy and
Speaker 1: a girl mixed to other like y'all say over and
Speaker 1: over again. Anyway, here's my song good he's about having
Speaker 1: sex with an adult man that was written by by
Speaker 1: an adult man, Jazzy. But here's what I'll say that
Speaker 1: I feel like not to say that it's proven, but
Speaker 1: I feel like the part that we can take from
Speaker 1: this is that this is all the Usher thing is
Speaker 1: so infancy Internet that and then remember I was like,
Speaker 1: I think it was just the spotlight was taken from
Speaker 1: Usher then flashed on us. I think that I think
Speaker 1: that that's the through lines you can follow, is that like,
Speaker 1: as that rumor went on, they just attached it to
Speaker 1: whoever they could, and she just happened. Because I was like,
Speaker 1: what two thousand two, two thousand, one thousand four is
Speaker 1: when she came out, and I think it was pretty
Speaker 1: immediate that people like, this is not a traditional quote
Speaker 1: unquote traditional woman, whatever the means. I will say that
Speaker 1: even because I don't know enough, and because as I
Speaker 1: felt like this is important, especially in terms of this subject,
Speaker 1: I wanted to dig up exactly why hermaphrodite is a
Speaker 1: problematic word, right, And so what I uncovered is that
Speaker 1: basically hermaphrodite is not actually a thing that happens in
Speaker 1: a human person that here hermaphrodite refers to a organism
Speaker 1: that's able to hold both genitals or like a male
Speaker 1: and female sex organ at the exact same time equally,
Speaker 1: which doesn't actually happen in humanity, right. Intersect people actually
Speaker 1: is more complicated than that, Like you said before, It
Speaker 1: like ranges from anything from like a person who has
Speaker 1: just like undefined genitals, a micro penis and enlarged clitterists.
Speaker 1: Labial fusion is one of the things undescended testicles or
Speaker 1: a labial mass, which they you know, if they dug
Speaker 1: under there, I guess they could find testicles underneath. So
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of ship that sounds like me I
Speaker 1: personally connect with the labial Yeah, man, keep digging, keep diggings,
Speaker 1: You're gonna find what you're looking for. So it's like
Speaker 1: all these why so that even the implication that like
Speaker 1: these two people are sort of this same thing is
Speaker 1: like a super ignorant thing because they could be a
Speaker 1: million different kinds of intersex. But it's also like, and
Speaker 1: you know, there's two things that play a It's a
Speaker 1: child learning the concept of what hermaphrodite is in terms
Speaker 1: of whatever attribute that is to it, to an animal
Speaker 1: or organism right, learning that and then being reducing it
Speaker 1: to like, oh, that would be like if a dude
Speaker 1: had a dang dong and had a little had a vagina,
Speaker 1: that would be And you're like, that's it could not
Speaker 1: be more wronging, like, that's what it is, right, See
Speaker 1: you teach you, I hear you. But I'm also I'm
Speaker 1: hearing what I'm saying, and what I'm saying sound more
Speaker 1: like what I like to say, so I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with it. So it's like you have that already at play.
Speaker 1: And then the concept that like, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this would be funny that let's say the I don't
Speaker 1: know what the most common form of inter sexuality is, right,
Speaker 1: but let's just say we just take the most populous
Speaker 1: form of intersexuality is right, that two of them would
Speaker 1: make it as R and B stars dog, it's like
Speaker 1: such a crazy saying. So that's the other thing that
Speaker 1: I n covered is that that intersects people only represent
Speaker 1: one point seven per cent of the population. So the
Speaker 1: fact that it's already impossible to make it to the
Speaker 1: whole celebrity, but two of them would, under the dark,
Speaker 1: the cloak of night, make it to that level, and
Speaker 1: you a nigga who's on the inner meant coloring Dexter's
Speaker 1: lab pictures uncovers this truth about her is insane. It's wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, but it basically lacks I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: just like it doesn't matter if it was, if it's
Speaker 1: two thousand two nine. It's just like niggas have just
Speaker 1: been bored forever. We just needed something to talk about, anything,
Speaker 1: to talk about, anything other than learning that that little
Speaker 1: girl's got broad shoulders. Let's say that she's, uh, she's
Speaker 1: a man now. It's like now she's probably just growing
Speaker 1: into her body and also very talented at the exact
Speaker 1: same time. But also like here's what I'm saying, Like again,
Speaker 1: not to speak on I don't want to speak on
Speaker 1: traditional gender norms, but in the realm that we are
Speaker 1: existing right in a business, the music business, that relies
Speaker 1: on gender norms at the time, at the very least
Speaker 1: at the time, Sierra is just because she has nice shoulders.
Speaker 1: She's one of the most hyper feminine people who's ever
Speaker 1: list But sure like outside of like wearing a white blazer,
Speaker 1: it's like a very dude, he's a buff man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like so crazy that we've picked truly like the
Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum for a hyper femininity and masculinity,
Speaker 1: and we're like, both of them have both parts. Next question.
Speaker 1: If anything, if we needed a starting point at our
Speaker 1: most ignorant level, we could have said rue Paul, who
Speaker 1: already was playing the line. But instead we were like,
Speaker 1: who's that motherfucker that that looks like a man and
Speaker 1: talks like a man and dances like a man. That's
Speaker 1: a lady too. It's like, what do you do? Why
Speaker 1: said he's part lady? Next question? Okay, but stop browling
Speaker 1: at me when you said it she part man? You
Speaker 1: heard one us put the record all told me when
Speaker 1: she talked about Rolando Nigga's left you know sound part
Speaker 1: and the way she's saying that. So one of the
Speaker 1: things that I think is hugely fascinating from this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And like I said, Sierra, So with part of the
Speaker 1: Sierra argument was that number one that the claim and
Speaker 1: maybe you heard this, was that not only was she intersex,
Speaker 1: but that she had announced it on the Oprah Winfrey Show.
Speaker 1: That there was like this hidden episode where like Sierra
Speaker 1: had come out and like said like, hey, Oprah. I
Speaker 1: am in a an intersex person and this is my truth.
Speaker 1: The episode does not exist. But everyone claimed to have
Speaker 1: seen this episode, and everything that I uncovered was like
Speaker 1: a bunch of people being like, yeah, my cousin said
Speaker 1: he saw the episode. It was wild, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like the fun out of here. Because that's also
Speaker 1: a holdover from pre internet, is that it was because
Speaker 1: that's also the Tommy Hill figure thing. Remember that exactly
Speaker 1: what I thought about. Yes, and then Tommy hill Man,
Speaker 1: Tommy Hill figure went on the open with Your show.
Speaker 1: He said he was niggas never wear his clothes. He said,
Speaker 1: if he's a nigger, James Hill shoot him in the streets.
Speaker 1: It's like Tommy Hilpiger never said that. But you're also
Speaker 1: like the dude who's first and only model for a
Speaker 1: very long time was Aliyah Aliah is literally responsible for
Speaker 1: the successful Tommy Hill figure. But like, it's just so
Speaker 1: weird that we can say back in the day, you
Speaker 1: could say anything and be like, what it happened, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: it is on Oprah, and maybe that's why she's an
Speaker 1: op Yes, Oprah let a bunch of I love this
Speaker 1: Oprah Let A bunch of bullshit ride because she wanted
Speaker 1: more ratings and more attention, and she was willing to
Speaker 1: let the black community tank itself for the sake of
Speaker 1: entertaining white people and letting her fake stories sort of
Speaker 1: circulate to make herself more popular in the white community.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, now that we're on this, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. Oprah probably started all this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every hey tell him Tommy Hill was just on the show,
Speaker 1: and that's the era that she got a ding dong
Speaker 1: hiding in the pan. Make sure you mentioned the Oprah
Speaker 1: Winfrey Show every Tuesday at eight, because it's also like
Speaker 1: I'll say this, like Oprah had wild moments right, like
Speaker 1: she had the clan on and like you know, there
Speaker 1: was ship just to that bigger moments, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: Jerry Springer or Jenny Jones. Like the chances that two
Speaker 1: major things happening on her show and no one it
Speaker 1: wasn't at least news. That's the thing that we just
Speaker 1: we just forego or four went to the news the
Speaker 1: way that was just like, well, you know he said
Speaker 1: that he's know someone who saw it, and it's just
Speaker 1: like like we all wouldn't everything else made it to us,
Speaker 1: right like any other Like the Mark Ferman tapes made
Speaker 1: it to us, like so many things, so many things
Speaker 1: that that was a home video shot in the dark
Speaker 1: in nineteen whate whatever it was. There's a reason that
Speaker 1: all these things make it to us, and it's because
Speaker 1: they existed, not because like there's some secret conspiracy not
Speaker 1: to show us the lost Sierra tapes. God, I mean,
Speaker 1: I wish I was better at deep fakes, because it
Speaker 1: would be funny to just do deep fakes of Tommy
Speaker 1: Hill figure on Oprah and Sierra On making their little
Speaker 1: announcements like I found them. I found that. Everybody said
Speaker 1: they weren't real, but I found the tape. That's so funny,
Speaker 1: So okay with the usher one one of the more
Speaker 1: fascinating parts of that, because like I said, I wasn't
Speaker 1: finding a lot of information about any accusations about him
Speaker 1: being intersex, and even accusations feels like a weird urnam
Speaker 1: in this case, because it's, yeah, sure, you're a smarter
Speaker 1: man than I am, right words, But so it all,
Speaker 1: as far as I could tell, and this was my
Speaker 1: own digging, As far as I can tell, most of
Speaker 1: the accusation or sort of like criminalization of Usher came
Speaker 1: out of exactly what you said, which is, this is
Speaker 1: a dude who sexier than me, and I don't like
Speaker 1: how that feels, so I'm going to undermine it. And
Speaker 1: then in two thousand and ten, he does that song
Speaker 1: with Nicki Minaj a Little Freak. I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: the lyrics. Of course, to back uh, he talks about
Speaker 1: being bisexual. It certainly like hanging out with bisexual people
Speaker 1: and like group sex and that whole thing. And in
Speaker 1: an interview afterwards with MTV, they asked him, like a Usher,
Speaker 1: are you into group sex now? And he's like His
Speaker 1: response was basically like, you know, I get into it
Speaker 1: from time to time. I like hanging out with bisexual people.
Speaker 1: And that's when the Internet is like, Oh, this motherfucker
Speaker 1: up to something he ain't. Oh he he on some dirty, nasty,
Speaker 1: filthy ship, which I think then spawns because of our
Speaker 1: homophobia and transphobia and all the phobias. It moves into
Speaker 1: Oh he's got multiple like sex organs and his body
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's crazy, I mean, And here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say. Granted, the news didn't hit until like, you know,
Speaker 1: four years ago or something. But if we had known
Speaker 1: Usher was getting all them poor ladies sick back the day,
Speaker 1: there's no way we would have assumed he was intersex,
Speaker 1: like he's just not. He's just given. He's given every
Speaker 1: woman he meets Herpy's what we would have accused him
Speaker 1: of was being a bad guy, and then that would
Speaker 1: have been the excuse for why our girls shouldn't have
Speaker 1: sex with him. It was like, not, you don't want
Speaker 1: to funk us, or he's a bad person. You want
Speaker 1: to you want to your skin to turn green. He's
Speaker 1: got diseases. Girls stick with me. I can't move walk sideways,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty good. Look I can't move walk sideways,
Speaker 1: but I promise you'll get home safe and healthy. You
Speaker 1: won't cough tomorrow. So I'm glad you brought that up
Speaker 1: because in two thousand seventeen, just for anybody who doesn't know,
Speaker 1: Usher got sued for twenty million dollars because a woman
Speaker 1: and then three people after that accused him of giving
Speaker 1: them herpies without notifying them ahead of time, that he
Speaker 1: knowingly gave them herpies and didn't tell them, which is
Speaker 1: a crime, which they never proved that he had herpies
Speaker 1: or that they had herpies. In fact, I think that
Speaker 1: one of the women they proved she did not in
Speaker 1: fact have herpies, but was just saying it and letting
Speaker 1: it ride. But I didn't realize this, and this is
Speaker 1: a very fascinating element of it, is that one of
Speaker 1: the accusers of the four is a man. Had no idea.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, there was a dude in that group, and
Speaker 1: he never revealed his name or his identity. He went
Speaker 1: by John Doe, as they do in you know, court
Speaker 1: cases where you don't want to keep your identity secret.
Speaker 1: And so I think that that just added to like
Speaker 1: sort of this weird dance of like what the funk
Speaker 1: is going on with Usher? And so there's all these
Speaker 1: different historical moments that people refer to when they talk
Speaker 1: about Usher sexuality. For example, his ex wife to make
Speaker 1: a foster in two eleven tweeted after their breakup that
Speaker 1: gay men quote unquote gay men who look and at
Speaker 1: straight should identify themselves with bright wrist bands, which who boy,
Speaker 1: I hate when I hear an idea that I had first. Uh,
Speaker 1: she was like, clearly, you're tripping. This is wild. That
Speaker 1: is so fun. It's just like also like you know,
Speaker 1: the Holocaust to happen. Yeah, I know that, like we
Speaker 1: just as a species, we shouldn't do things to identify
Speaker 1: what is different. Just leave it alone. You just gonna
Speaker 1: have to guess. And you know, there was a small
Speaker 1: part of her that was like, well, I'm not putting
Speaker 1: patches on their shoulder, I'm just wristbands tattooing them. I
Speaker 1: just want a wristband so that they don't trick me.
Speaker 1: But that's why I don't like the logic of it,
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, the easiest thing to get off,
Speaker 1: it's a wristband, like you just cut them off, like
Speaker 1: the gay like these secret gay agents aren't just able
Speaker 1: to take the wristband off in the morning after a
Speaker 1: nice shower, Like what are you talking about, Tamica. Well else,
Speaker 1: I just like it's just like I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want the world to know I'm gay or bisexual, but
Speaker 1: I gotta put all my wristband. You know. That's what
Speaker 1: Tomka says, you know Ta mak a Foster Usher's ex wife.
Speaker 1: Oh but see that was another thing that I remember
Speaker 1: pointed to about the conspiracy of us was just not
Speaker 1: even the intersex thing. But of his sexuality. It's because
Speaker 1: Tamika was older than him by like ten years or something,
Speaker 1: and people are like, no man loves a woman years
Speaker 1: older than him unless he gave You're like, are you sure?
Speaker 1: Like every time every like someone older than him, he
Speaker 1: gave something wrong with his brain and would be like
Speaker 1: a woman that old, look at it, what is she
Speaker 1: in our mid to late thirties? She's done. It's so sad. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that that happens. Then in two thousand thirteen, I
Speaker 1: believe it is did he does an interview where it's
Speaker 1: like one of Diddy's parties, and this is one of
Speaker 1: those where he starts videotaping the parties and he has
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart hosting this party and he's interviewing with Kevin Harden.
Speaker 1: Usher walks into the building and he's so happy to
Speaker 1: the Usher, and he starts talking to Kevin on the
Speaker 1: microphone with Usher and he says out loud in the interview,
Speaker 1: he says, oh, I love this this dude, he's my bro.
Speaker 1: We used to wake up together, I mean damn. Pause,
Speaker 1: and then everybody just started laughing because Diddy had implied
Speaker 1: that him and Usher used to sleep in a bed
Speaker 1: together as partners. That one's that's hard. That's a stretch
Speaker 1: for me a little bit. It's it's not evidence of anything, right,
Speaker 1: because I would just assume it was just like even
Speaker 1: my head went to, oh yeah, like a hard night
Speaker 1: of party, and you wake up and it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's Diddy over there, Like I didn't, it's not he
Speaker 1: was like and then I woke up to the soft,
Speaker 1: the soft warmth of his breath on my neck. I mean, damn.
Speaker 1: Pause and then Usher. He used to kiss me real slow,
Speaker 1: and he would say good morning, Papa, and I would say, hey, Usher,
Speaker 1: oh damn, you caught me and Kevin Harts just like, okay, naive,
Speaker 1: where are you all right? Get over here? Why'm a
Speaker 1: tweet about this? And get in trouble to? How about
Speaker 1: how about a smash the dollhouse over both y'alls head? Okay?
Speaker 1: And then the last one, and this is this is
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, is that in they asked Jenny McCarthy,
Speaker 1: of all people in an interview, why are they interviewing
Speaker 1: Jenny McCarthy. I have no idea why are they asking
Speaker 1: her questions about Usher? Even less clear, but in an
Speaker 1: interview with Jenny McCarthy, she was asked if she thinks
Speaker 1: Usher is attractive to what She responded by saying, is
Speaker 1: he for sure straight? Is he? By I think he's hot?
Speaker 1: I would definitely be interested. I would have that unsure
Speaker 1: flag of which team he plays for. For real, guys
Speaker 1: that are really well kept like that and aren't really
Speaker 1: with that many chicks. I tend to have a question
Speaker 1: mark because I remember and I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, but I remember because I moved to l
Speaker 1: A in two thousand five, and that was like I
Speaker 1: was from Georgia whatever, but was like the I feel
Speaker 1: like peek Zenith like quote unquote metro sexual movement right,
Speaker 1: and the whole idea when you really, you know, reduce
Speaker 1: it to its core, was that like if you're a
Speaker 1: man and you shower and have a T shirt that
Speaker 1: ain't wrinkly, you half like I'm sorry, what like if
Speaker 1: you got a haircut and the best we could have
Speaker 1: half you want of these half gay niggers running around
Speaker 1: God secrets, motherfucker Like like so because like that's like
Speaker 1: her saying that, and it's like, first of all, when
Speaker 1: we talk about problem with white women, it's like the
Speaker 1: woman who lied on Emmett Till and then Jenny McCarthy.
Speaker 1: She's like, it's right, they're the same to me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she I mean, you fucking she did the vaccine. She's
Speaker 1: like one of the source materials all her. And the
Speaker 1: thing is that, like it was bad information and bad
Speaker 1: science coming from a blonde hair, blue eye, white lady
Speaker 1: with big breasts, like who's already had some semblance of
Speaker 1: fame and who had a child that's afflicted not from
Speaker 1: the thing that she's saying, but because she can point
Speaker 1: to that every white person believed her. She's she is
Speaker 1: lit to your point, she is literally the most dangerous
Speaker 1: weapon that the white community could pull out in those circumstances.
Speaker 1: She is both victim and big, tittied and blonde. She
Speaker 1: can go crazy with whatever she wants to say, and
Speaker 1: she did. And so like the idea that like someone
Speaker 1: who is so not just on the wrong side of history,
Speaker 1: but just like actually in their soul and in their
Speaker 1: atoms is incorrect. Like she's not, she's not built the
Speaker 1: way a human is built in the sense that like,
Speaker 1: I feel like her molecular polarity spends opposite of us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just like, you're
Speaker 1: so wrong on everything, and so it's like the fact
Speaker 1: that she went on TV again using the weapon of
Speaker 1: blue eyes and breasts and blonde hair to be like,
Speaker 1: oh he must be. Then of course everyone's gonna now
Speaker 1: is going to question it, and she made it popular
Speaker 1: in a way that it's and ending it with he's
Speaker 1: too well kept. That's crazy, it's insane. But yeah, well
Speaker 1: I think we agree. Jenny McCartney is uh spawn of Satan. Yes,
Speaker 1: yes we do. We're gonna take another break and then
Speaker 1: we'll be back with more and my mama told me,
Speaker 1: and we are back. Yeah, ah, we are back here.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh that is I mean, sincerely. In in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of heartbreaking things to have ever happened,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever a point where I got
Speaker 1: to enjoy it the way other people did. Like I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, I was just like, oh no,
Speaker 1: this young king has to do this, you know what.
Speaker 1: And I feel bad about it now, but I legitimately
Speaker 1: thought it was the funniest thing I had ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life. And then other people had to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know that's not good, right, you know, like he's
Speaker 1: he's really gonna struggle for the rest of his life
Speaker 1: because of what he just announced in front of five
Speaker 1: thousand people at a church. I was like, Nope, this
Speaker 1: niggas hilarious. Here's here's what I'll say, because to pretend
Speaker 1: that I didn't laugh, like I was pretty on board
Speaker 1: with like, oh, like this is heartbreaking until he went
Speaker 1: women women women, and I was just like, you didn't
Speaker 1: have to do that. Bar Well, he's a showman, so good.
Speaker 1: I still check in on him on Instagram. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: just got in that fight with the lady at the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter around He's still working. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: say I appreciate him in the sense that he's just
Speaker 1: like he's not like what's her name, bad baby or whatever,
Speaker 1: or it's just like you try to like make a
Speaker 1: whole new career or whatever. Do like, but I do
Speaker 1: like that he's like, y'all not gonna forget about me, right,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like I'm just gonna keep being myself.
Speaker 1: But now I get what myself is. Whereas I totally
Speaker 1: agree I think the bad babies of the world are
Speaker 1: like a gross human being who then tried to did
Speaker 1: a bad thing and then tried to manipulate that bad
Speaker 1: thing into a completely different career that you didn't deserve
Speaker 1: and should not have. She's just like, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep yelling at people and it'll be under different contexts
Speaker 1: and perhaps you'll like that. Good for him. I'm proud
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Speaker 1: Langston's sister Jia, who's ten years old, describes new conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory she uncovers on TikTok. Yeah, so this is how
Speaker 1: it works. I'm gonna play you some audio clips of
Speaker 1: my sister explaining a conspiracy theory to me, and I
Speaker 1: just like for us to unpack exactly what she's talking about,
Speaker 1: what is she what she's stressing about, And keep in
Speaker 1: mind she is genuinely afraid of what's happening in these clips.
Speaker 1: She is not at all doing this for a prank
Speaker 1: or for some silliness. She is ten and she means
Speaker 1: it Okay, here we go. Okay, So my thing about
Speaker 1: Chucky Cheese is that I don't trust abouty more. I've
Speaker 1: heard too many stories about them. They're basically as saying
Speaker 1: that as a strike of midnight, the robots get off
Speaker 1: their stands and start walking around seeking for children to
Speaker 1: eat or to just torture them. All right, yeah, there
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Uh So, I just had to
Speaker 1: be clear. She's afraid that the plot of toy Story
Speaker 1: and Mannequin exists only at Chuck E Cheese Cheese when
Speaker 1: it is empty, closed, and so they just go around
Speaker 1: me like, oh, if there's a spare kid in here,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna wait. It was either
Speaker 1: eat or torture or torture. It depends on the kid
Speaker 1: in the day, I guess, uh in which may again,
Speaker 1: I guess catches them or whatever. I don't know. But yes,
Speaker 1: at the strike of midnight they come alive and they
Speaker 1: eat and or torture kids. Also, like, does she know
Speaker 1: that they've they've gone under Chuck E Cheese. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she has no idea. She thinks that Chucky Cheese is
Speaker 1: the most thriving business of all time, as far as
Speaker 1: she's it's her favorite place. So she's like, nah, Chucky
Speaker 1: Cheese is dope, and I hate to find out. It's
Speaker 1: as if your favorite person got canceled for her, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like it's your hero going down.
Speaker 1: And she's like, funk, I love Chucky Cheese, but I'm
Speaker 1: hearing about these robots eating and kidnapping children. But again,
Speaker 1: like this is it's like the wayfaier thing that I
Speaker 1: want to, like, ASA, hold your sister and be like,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be you that figured this out right,
Speaker 1: You're not the one. And I will say that she's
Speaker 1: a she's smart enough to know that she's not figuring
Speaker 1: out she but she doesn't know who to trust on
Speaker 1: the internet. So she, like us when we were kids,
Speaker 1: it's just subscribing to these people who then tell her
Speaker 1: something wild and she's like, hey, y'all, I got some
Speaker 1: bad news. I'm hearing from Jelsey thirty three that that
Speaker 1: they're kidnapping kids at Chuck E Cheese. I'm hearing from
Speaker 1: Chucky Eat Cheese hater that some wild things are happening
Speaker 1: there at Chuck E Cheese. Why would he say it?
Speaker 1: If it okay? Just the last thing real quick. It's
Speaker 1: just like the idea that people still go, yes like that.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I got you know, like I can't go.
Speaker 1: Other people go. But because you're done't thinking that stroke
Speaker 1: of midnight thing you gonna catch not today fail. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play you some more because she she goes
Speaker 1: on to describe exactly because I was very curious, how
Speaker 1: is it that these people are are these chuck e
Speaker 1: cheese robots are coming to life? And she explains that
Speaker 1: as well. They just found a man that was downstairs
Speaker 1: doing like spells and voodo on the robots for them
Speaker 1: to kidnap children. He was using a Luigi board. Plus
Speaker 1: he had like this circle and he was sitting in
Speaker 1: the middle with candles, and it was very dark and
Speaker 1: spooky down there, and he would just sit in the
Speaker 1: middle and start doing his things. Ah, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you were going to bring robots to life, that
Speaker 1: is how you do it. Yea. So she's not It
Speaker 1: seems as if this isn't a dig. It seems as
Speaker 1: if whoever told her the story wherever she had it from,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the vocabulary for pentagram. Yet he was
Speaker 1: clearly that's what she's describing, right, They didn't know, they
Speaker 1: didn't know like the actual terms of witchcraft, so they
Speaker 1: were She was just like, yeah, they got a ugi
Speaker 1: board and some candles and a circle and a circle.
Speaker 1: Because it's also like the other thing you want to
Speaker 1: say is that like usually for like the demons and
Speaker 1: like the Satanic, you know, conjurors, it's like they're pretty efficient,
Speaker 1: Like they're not bringing Augi board and the pensigram like
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they it's usually one thing, like
Speaker 1: they either got like a pencilgram with like a book
Speaker 1: of spells, or they got like Augi board with like
Speaker 1: a book of spells. But like then maybe like you know,
Speaker 1: like a lock of hair or whatever. But like we
Speaker 1: just need her to know that's like overkill, like if
Speaker 1: you got to bring thick, your thick, your your method
Speaker 1: to whatever madness you're trying to create. Because the other
Speaker 1: question is is are they putting souls into the into
Speaker 1: the robots? Is that what she thinks is happening, Is
Speaker 1: that how they're transferring souls from hell or they just
Speaker 1: bringing them to life and they're just bloodthirsty. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just think that she thinks there just they become become alive.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the concept of like the transference
Speaker 1: of a soul is man that's a little too sophisticated
Speaker 1: for so for her, it's just like they are not alive,
Speaker 1: and then a man in a basement makes them alive,
Speaker 1: and then they seek out children to eat and or torture.
Speaker 1: Got you all right? Cool? All right, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: you the last clip, and this one, I think is
Speaker 1: when she explains the Chucky Cheese employees handle what's happening
Speaker 1: with these kidnappings and these robots. Oh wait, so the
Speaker 1: way the Chucky Cheese people are aware of it, just
Speaker 1: real quick, they are. In fact, she'll she'll explain it
Speaker 1: all okay, perfect well really there was another person who
Speaker 1: found an article about how it said that the workers
Speaker 1: when it turns midnight, they have to go put on
Speaker 1: like a little cute chuck E Cheese outfit because if
Speaker 1: one of the robots sees you working there and it's midnight,
Speaker 1: they're basically come and hurt you or murder you. But
Speaker 1: if you wear the costume, they'll think you're one of them,
Speaker 1: so they won't attack you. And what they're attacking you
Speaker 1: for is they think you're like a robber or someone
Speaker 1: that's trying to mess with the play store. And when
Speaker 1: you walk up towards one of them, they always look
Speaker 1: down at you because there's a hidden camera, I guess
Speaker 1: in one of their bodies, so they can like scan
Speaker 1: you whatever to make sure you're not guilty of anything.
Speaker 1: Does that make sure you're not guilty of anything? I
Speaker 1: first of all, this is she is adorable in a
Speaker 1: way that like, that is so cute, and it's like
Speaker 1: I just haven't heard a child talk earnestly in such
Speaker 1: a long time, Like it's so sweet to hear. Even
Speaker 1: though it's like, you know, oh, it's haunting. I'm not
Speaker 1: able to get her to stop believing you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's real cute that she thinks it's real. But okay,
Speaker 1: because I also the other thing to ask her is,
Speaker 1: at this point, everyone knows that midnight the robots come back.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows there they are apparently have been articles written
Speaker 1: and it's not in these clips. But she also explains
Speaker 1: that the part of how they uncovered it was they
Speaker 1: found fingerprints of children on the windows leading towards the basement.
Speaker 1: Unrelated to the fingerprints they might find of children any
Speaker 1: other time it checked on a slide at a booth.
Speaker 1: These were apparently clearly kidnapped fingerprints. That's opposed to other
Speaker 1: so there's also windows in the basement. I guess. So, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just a reporter here. Okay, yeah, I mean thank
Speaker 1: you number one for bringing us to light in a
Speaker 1: way that I never would have guessed. Because the thing
Speaker 1: that's funny to me is that now the robots are
Speaker 1: sophisticated enough to like have cameras that do full body
Speaker 1: scans to know if you're like one of them or not,
Speaker 1: but also if you just dressed like them. The technology
Speaker 1: it can't penetrate the costume. They just can't tell the
Speaker 1: difference between. But last thing, they they eat and torture children,
Speaker 1: but they also defend the place from robberts. Right, y'all
Speaker 1: got a weird moral code here and chuck e cheese.
Speaker 1: You're like, wow, it really is all shades of gray. Like, listen,
Speaker 1: we'll kill a child, but we will not let you
Speaker 1: steal our pizza recipe. That is, my friends, is why
Speaker 1: we will defend YEP. It's so crazy, that's so funny,
Speaker 1: And this is apparently circulating all over TikTok, and specifically
Speaker 1: for you know, in the network of kids who otherwise
Speaker 1: should just be watching dances and weird things. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is the scariest part is like, you know, you think
Speaker 1: that your little sister is on the internet watching people
Speaker 1: learn to like do the Savage dance, and secretly she's
Speaker 1: learning about murders and mayhem. But what I will say
Speaker 1: for right now, luckily, is that it's attributed to a business,
Speaker 1: which is hard. But for the most part, most part,
Speaker 1: it is just a ghost story. Like it ain't pizza Gate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, well, that's a different
Speaker 1: kind of pizza Gate. But well that that is the
Speaker 1: that is a slightly endearing part is that essentially what
Speaker 1: she is doing is pizza Gate, but for kids. And
Speaker 1: so the endearing part of it is that like, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't attached to a real person who then becomes
Speaker 1: criminalized and now we have to spend the next twenty
Speaker 1: years trying to unpack for other real people. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like this fictional character that she thinks comes to life.
Speaker 1: That's harmless in the grand scheme of conspiracy theories. Yeah, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but I I just because to me, like, I think that,
Speaker 1: like so much of growing up weirdly is that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like so it's like again,
Speaker 1: it's like the Usher Sierra thing. It's like you know
Speaker 1: how they say, like babies see more, they see more
Speaker 1: things because they don't have language to dictate the things
Speaker 1: that they see, and they don't see Wow, I hadn't
Speaker 1: heard that. You haven't. Yeah, it's like a really interesting thing.
Speaker 1: So I'll do a quick example, real quick. But they
Speaker 1: have this thing called the green dot test, right, And
Speaker 1: so they take a village, you know, let's say in Brazil, right,
Speaker 1: I forget where it is exactly. They have like over
Speaker 1: forty words for the word green, because that's how nuance
Speaker 1: they see. So they give them a chart with nine
Speaker 1: green dots and one is off by like point zero
Speaker 1: one of a hue, right, and say which one is different,
Speaker 1: and they can point to the one that's different every time.
Speaker 1: But this same the same village or a group of
Speaker 1: people don't have a word for the color blue. So
Speaker 1: when you hand them the chart with the same chart
Speaker 1: but one of the dots is blue and ask them
Speaker 1: which one is different, they physically can't see it. Their
Speaker 1: brain can't register it because they don't have the language
Speaker 1: for it. So if you do it to someone like us,
Speaker 1: who has the word blue, but we don't have the
Speaker 1: nuance of the color green, we we fail the same test,
Speaker 1: but in opposite So that's why they say like babies
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. So I want to say all
Speaker 1: that that it's like to the Usher thing, the Sierra thing,
Speaker 1: even to the like the thing with your sister, it's
Speaker 1: like we're all weirdly trying to define a world through
Speaker 1: the prism of like a very limited language, right, So
Speaker 1: because like what she's actually talking about is just like
Speaker 1: the greater fears of like probably technology of like an
Speaker 1: unknown world, and like what does that mean? What is
Speaker 1: what you know? Like what is the idea of murder
Speaker 1: and torture? All these words that she hears, but she
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily understand the concept of them. Man. And it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with like the Usher thing and the
Speaker 1: Sierra thing, is like not understanding that like sexuality, gender,
Speaker 1: all that stuff is fluid and isn't binary, and like
Speaker 1: you know, flows in very different ways, and because you
Speaker 1: don't have the way to define them that you kind
Speaker 1: of just like start inventing things. Yeah, to your point,
Speaker 1: I think it's just us trying to bring everything closer
Speaker 1: to ourselves, and we do it in sort of like difficult,
Speaker 1: ignorant ways sometimes, but it's not always malicious. It's just like,
Speaker 1: this is the only way I can begin to understand
Speaker 1: the world or the feelings I'm having is to express fear,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how to articulate what the real
Speaker 1: fear is. So there's motherfucker's in Chucky cheese basement trying
Speaker 1: to kill me, and I'll just start there, and then
Speaker 1: you know, the likes it out to be clear, the
Speaker 1: Usher Sierra thing like that. We can't, we can't. We're
Speaker 1: not copping that one to like childhood ignorance, Like there
Speaker 1: was Brittain and Edward and Timmy hates you usuer. He
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Speaker 1: if he ever gave you one, they were a little wet.
Speaker 1: It was just a little bit wet, and you know
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