1 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 3 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And it's eleven thirty on a Tuesday morning, 6 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and that can mean only one thing. It is time 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: for Mick Shots on a rainy Tuesday morning here at 8 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, inside the s to BBC Mortgage 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Studios inside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Bill Jones, 10 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and the star of the show, Mickey Spa 11 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: of course, who just a moment ago informed does he 12 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: won't be here next Thursday. Nicky the show on Tuesday 13 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: tell us that I don't know why it is a 14 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: rainy day here, and so it's a disappointing day in 15 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: that I came down the stairway here in the atrium 16 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco, looked out across the playing 17 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: field and did not see any football players out there. 18 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Now we're inside, I guess strength and strength and conditioning 19 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: moved inside. That's what they're still doing. And then the 20 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: coaches now can actually be on the field and do 21 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: some position drills with the guys this week before they 22 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: start OTAs next week. So hopefully the rain goes away 23 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: and we'll get to watch uh some OTA practices that 24 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 1: will be good, and they're only going to have six 25 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: of them, by the way, they're allowed nine or ten. 26 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: In the past, it's been ten OTAs and the way 27 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett would do it, and of course we didn't 28 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: have OTA's last year with Mike McCarthy as the head coach, 29 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: but the way Jason Garrett would do it, there would 30 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: be nine OTA practices and then the tenth OTA quote 31 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: unquote practice was when they had the high school kids 32 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: come out here and they and the players would coach 33 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: the kids. It was a great day, but organized team 34 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: activities for those of you who don't recall what OTA 35 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: stands for, So that was that was the final organized 36 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: team activity. But they cut down on him this year, 37 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: only six. And somebody asked Mike during the press conference 38 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: on Saturday, why only six, and he goes, no, I've 39 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: got nine days. Well he was counting the three mini camps. 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: So after the OTAs, they're going to have mini camps 41 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and I think what he was thinking was, because they're 42 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: going to have to start training camp a week early 43 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: because of the Hall of Fame game, that he wanted 44 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: to give the guys that much of a break, So 45 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: give them almost a month off before they I think 46 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: there was another factor in there too, and that has 47 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: to do with the players Union and how much voluntary 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: or obviously it's the mandatory three day minicamp, but how 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: much of the voluntary offseason program that they are going 50 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: to participate in. I think it was sort of a 51 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: compromise for because there are a lot of there are 52 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: some teams in the league where players are not reported 53 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: back in mass like they have here. H and almost 54 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: in en mass Yeah, and right, and so the Frenchman, 55 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: the Frenchman, that's the only six years of French That's 56 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: the only thing I think I remember. Dmos had something 57 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: to say about that. There you go, that's exactly right, 58 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and I'll see if I can find it here. But 59 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: there was a letter that I was reading just a 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: couple of days ago that was tweeted out from the 61 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: players Union, one of the players reps Um explaining why, uh, 62 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: you know, the player's position on it, and part of 63 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: it was they felt like last year without a that's 64 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of bos you don't have at no, no, no, no, 65 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: well we we now they're going at it now that 66 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I got a play that the play was better last year? 67 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Did he watch the Cowboys defense here? It was a 68 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. We talked about that, We talked 69 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: it out. There was a new one that came out 70 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: this week that an explanation I gotta find it talking 71 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: about one came out talking about yeah, ever since and 72 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I talked about it about injuries had been reduced, and 73 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: it's like, well, they sure didn't count the Cowboys injuries, 74 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: nor did it stop any in infections from Corona either. 75 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Maybe seems like, yeah, the guy still got it regardless. 76 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know. Did the letter point out that 77 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: they were going to take care of the poor guy 78 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: from Denver that was working on his own and tours 79 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Achilles and then now they're now they're offended that Broncos 80 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: would have the nerve to say, well, we're not covering 81 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: this contract. And then they released the guy, They released 82 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: John James, and then not only that, and then they 83 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: had another guy get hurt. Well about the week they 84 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: had no quarterback playing at all right during the season. 85 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: During the season. I mean, so when you're talking about 86 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: it didn't affect the teams at all. I mean, I 87 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: don't know about OTAs and doing the regular season, but 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: I'd say everything was affected last season. You can't say 89 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: that anything really whooked to our satisfaction. Injuries and infections. 90 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: This was JC Trenor yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, he's 91 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: got a job and did you but this he wrote this, 92 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: It was published yesterday day. It's a new one, May seventeenth, okay, 93 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: as we begin phase two of the off season today, okay, 94 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: And this, of course is phase two Mickey alluded to 95 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: off the top, where the coaches can actually work with 96 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: the players and so forth. It's important to view the 97 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: program from the player's perspective. The end of the regular 98 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: season to the beginning of training camp spans twenty nine weeks. 99 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Many people suggest that players should participate in their team's 100 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: off season program to avoid any risk of non football injury. 101 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: But if players were truly to eliminate all risks NFI 102 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: during the off season, it would mean only training for 103 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: those nine weeks when we have protection at the facility. 104 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to move on down here as it relates 105 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: to what you were just talking. Last year was the 106 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: first time most players got to experience not attending in 107 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: person off season programming. For many, it was eye opening. 108 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: This is gonna get this is gonna get this is 109 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna get going here players felt better physically and mentally 110 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: in the injury data supports those anecdotes. Now, as we 111 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: stare down the start of the twenty twenty one season, 112 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: players are realizing they do actually have a choice in 113 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: how they prepare for the season, and that the voluntary 114 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: offseason program truly is voluntary. One might say more players 115 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: than ever are making business decisions about this nine week 116 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: period in a way that they never have before. Less 117 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: than half of all NFL players showed up for Phase one, 118 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: and players and players on more than half the teams 119 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: in the league of negotiated new rules for the remaining 120 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: voluntary workout periods. When the public starts taking attendance today 121 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: meaning yesterday, I hope it's noted that players who are 122 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: attending will be doing it on their terms. Our player 123 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: leaders proposed changes to their team's programs, such as shortening 124 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: the number of weeks of the offseason program and decreasing 125 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: the number of practices, as well as decreasing intensity by 126 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: converting practice to walk throughs and removing eleven on eleven periods. 127 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: These are significant improvements for our membership. Players are now 128 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: viewing the offseason the way our union intended. Each individual 129 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: player has the right to decide, is my team's program 130 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: a valuable enough experience to me that it's worth volunteering 131 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: my off time to participate, considering the CBA to find 132 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: offseason The majority of players answer that question with a 133 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: resounding no. The onus then shifts to each individual team 134 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to create a new offseason program that will cause a 135 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: player to answer that question with a yes. The league 136 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: office has shown zero leadership on the subject, so there 137 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: is no uniformity across the NFL, putting gms and coaches 138 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: in a tough spot. There's one more paragraph here. The 139 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: NFLPA will continue to support our players and exercising the 140 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: rights our union has earned for them, even when it's 141 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: not popular among the public. It is a win in 142 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: itself that for the first time in a long time, 143 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: players truly like they have a choice as to whether 144 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: they attend voluntary offseason practices. Um I do recall us 145 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: making many jokes back in the day about OTAs or 146 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: we call them just many camps back in the day, 147 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: mandatory or not right, And Tom would always say, well, 148 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, voluntary, but you should show up, 149 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: and you're gonna show up. So if this regard, I 150 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: can see how the Player Association is saying, Okay, we 151 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: finally have a chance to flex our muscle and have 152 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: some decisions. As far as some decision making power in 153 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: this situation, I can see them using this as an 154 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: opportunity for that. However, would I beg to differ. Injuries 155 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: and infections still ran rampant last year, and I don't 156 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: know if the OTAs had jack to do with that. 157 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I really have to say that, you gotta I think 158 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: that OTAs and injuries, I don't think it had anything 159 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: to do with how it ran out during the season. 160 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: It was just a kookie year, and this is the 161 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: Players Association's opportunity to flex their muscles and get get 162 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: a foot in there as far as decision making this concerns. 163 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: As far as having the six OTAs rather than the ten, 164 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: I think that was a part of the compromise that 165 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: he talked about. Yeah, and we'll see then how many 166 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: guys show up? What do voluntary mean? Darren Hamburg. So 167 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for the players Association to flex their muscles. Yeah, 168 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: and they're trying, they're trying to curry and they're trying 169 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: to curry favor with the players of course for having 170 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: a seventeenth game. And it's like, you know, well we 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: got stuff, you know, we got more financial uh considerations 172 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: for giving them the seventeenth game. And now everybody's seeing 173 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: the seventeenth game and it's like, oh what what what 174 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: do we get? You know, and it's a big pool 175 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: of money, but it doesn't show up probably in your paycheck, 176 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: so to me. So where do they think these guys 177 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: should do their strength and conditioning? They just don't need it. 178 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: You know, we're going to go back to the seventies 179 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: when guys did nothing in the odd season, did it 180 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: on their own, Yeah, came in on their own. So 181 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: now doing it on your own is better than doing 182 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: it here with under under jurisdiction of the trainers and 183 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: here as you know, Everson uh and you know, Mickey, 184 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: it's a whole different deal than a lot of other 185 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: places around the league because it's a great place to live, 186 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: and you know, and and players will come here and 187 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: stay in the off season here, and so it's really 188 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: convenient for the Cowboys and the facility with the facility 189 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: here too. But if you're someplace else, you know, other 190 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: cities in the league, so you don't have to fly in. 191 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: I get I get that in I get that part. 192 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: But again, you're telling the whole league to do this. 193 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: You know now now they want to they want to 194 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: file a grievance for Juwan James after he tore as 195 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Achilles because basically they released them and said, you're on 196 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: NFI and we're not responsible for you. You could have 197 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: been here working out like you were until this stuff 198 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: came out and the guys decided to stay home and 199 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: work out on their own. I just think you don't 200 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the days of showing up for training camp and getting 201 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: ready for the season are over right it that's your job. 202 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's voluntary or not. For your 203 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: own good. You need to be in tip top shape 204 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: when you report the training camp, not go to training 205 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: camp like the old days and all of a sudden start. 206 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be like that. In regards 207 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: to that the onness is on the players. If you're 208 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: going to use this letter as ammunition for whatever your 209 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: offseason schedule is going to be, then you really have 210 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: to You have to get your workouts in and it's 211 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: up to you. I think I could do it if 212 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: I played. You know, I would love to come and 213 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: work out with my guys, but if I would be 214 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: serious about my workout and I'm gonna be in shape 215 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: when I get to train the camp, I always was. 216 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: But I'm a defensive back. You know, wide receivers. We're 217 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: all about the same running backs. But when you start 218 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: talking about big guys, start talking about linebackers in linemen, 219 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: that's a whole other story. I don't know what it's 220 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: like to go through an off season without being supervised 221 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: on your workouts and you're like two hundred and eighty 222 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: pounds at six feet four inches. To me, that's a 223 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: different ball game. For small guys like us, we can 224 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: come in and shape all the time. And I always 225 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 1: did see. And my point is the strength and conditioning. 226 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: I get backing off on the intensity of the OTAs 227 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: because I always thought, you know, you put your helmet on, 228 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: you got a jersey, shorts, you got your cleats on, 229 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: and you're gonna go out there and you're gonna end 230 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: up competing, right, and boys will be boys. Right. If 231 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm out there competing, I'm gonna dive for a pass, right, Well, 232 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I ain't got a shoulder pad on, and I'm gonna 233 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: hurt my shoulder. Or if I'm a dB and I'm 234 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna try to go up and knock a ball down 235 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: and I fall, I ain't got a shoulder pad on. 236 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: I get backing off on that. There's ways to do 237 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: those OTAs, and I think Jason Garrett did that last year. 238 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: They the competition part of it, the physical part of it. Yeah, 239 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: two years ago. Sorry, they backed off and again you 240 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: know you're okay, you're supposed to come off the ball, 241 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: touch and then stop. Well, okay, I'm this undrafted free agent. 242 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna probably give it a little bit more 243 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: because I got to impress somebody. Right, I get that part. 244 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: But you can do the OTAs as almost a walkthrough 245 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: or a little bit better than a walkthrough without getting physical. 246 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: But the strength and conditioning thing, I don't stamp because 247 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the health club. Now. Is that safer? 248 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Especially if you haven't been vaccinated, Is it safer? Probably not, 249 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: because you're coming here and they're still kind of testing guys, right, 250 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, Well we'll see how this whole thing out. 251 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I would call before the pandemic, you had quarterbacks and 252 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: other leaders of teams. They would fly in groups of 253 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: guys and they would all work out together, sometimes on 254 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: different teams. Well, we'll all work out there, like if 255 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: they went to the same school with the same college, 256 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: like UT guys get their workouts, you know, cal Berkeley guys, 257 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: they will all get together in Oakland get their workouts 258 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Which that's very, very beneficial 259 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: for specialist guys. Once again, we're talking wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, dbs. 260 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: But when you're talking about the center, when you're talking 261 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: about a middle linebacker, when you're talking about the defensive end, 262 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where they're going to get that kind 263 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: of work. And if Back has done that, you know 264 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: in that month long period between the end of the 265 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: mini camp and the start of training camp, Attack has 266 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: gotten his receivers together last back last year, right last year, 267 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: but he's done it even in previous to last year 268 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: and that month before just to because I mean, you 269 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: got a month off in between. I've never really totally 270 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: understood why. You know, you've got training camp starting on 271 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: July twentieth, Why are you shutting it down on June 272 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: twentieth and giving him a month off to get out 273 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: of shape period? Until it should be the other way around, 274 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I understand, given some time, but 275 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: give him a couple of weeks. You know, the thing 276 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: always took a couple of weeks before training camp has 277 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: always taking least a week or a couple of weeks before. Yeah, 278 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: So I could see the whole offseason program getting pushed 279 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: back to the point where you're leading up more to 280 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: the season. You know, maybe that would eliminate and then 281 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: that would eliminate the slower start to training camp because 282 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: you remember last year or the year before, you had 283 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: to have those three or four kind of acclamation days 284 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: before you actually practice football. Have you ever heard of 285 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: a big, a group of big defensive linemen and linebackers 286 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: getting together having them Yeah? Who leaving no backyard work? 287 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Who's leaving that sack Martin's place? Come on, guys, I 288 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: got a football field back I got in ten yards. 289 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: That's all we need. We can just dig up a 290 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: bunch of dirt and have something. But I think we 291 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: saw an example of it last year on this team, 292 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: the lack of the offseason program with a bigger guy 293 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: like Don Terry po I think Don Terry Poe would 294 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: have been in much better shape to start the season 295 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: if there was an offseason program. Now he was. He 296 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was terrible the year before. Don't bring that, it's just 297 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: to kick somebody else, pick somebody. I agree, though, you 298 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: you have to um, you have to know that the 299 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: different positions, they have to be treated in a in 300 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: a certain manner. And like I said, the big guys, 301 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: they're the ones that are gonna suffer. The are the 302 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: ones that suffered here. I don't know about the round 303 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: the league, but we know that we had major problems 304 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: with our big guys, especially offensive lineman. You know, we're 305 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: still worried about our offensive tackle. Hopefully they look good, 306 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, they look coming up, they look real good. 307 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: They look good. They look good now. And because now 308 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: they're together, you know, I don't know what it would 309 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: have been like last year at this time, you know, 310 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: considering that they couldn't get together that much. So this 311 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: year is going to be different. Uh, you know, protocol 312 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: is being laxed a little bit more now. And I'm 313 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: very surprised that this letter came out and that it is. 314 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: It helds so many restrictions for the teams. It changed. 315 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: It changed the tune because previously it was worried about COVID. 316 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: He didn't mention any Now you noticed that that was 317 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: very carefully worried letter. Yeah, it was now about you 318 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: can see this is their opportunity to flex the muscle. 319 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: They're just using this right now as just a starting 320 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: point to where, hey, we got your players backs. You know, 321 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: this is why you pay your your dude union stuff. Well, 322 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: and it's also trying to uh provide some points that 323 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: see the owners didn't win on this, right, right, we 324 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: had our way. What's important? Ever, have you ever been 325 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: in a I know you have. Have you ever been 326 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: in a union? So summers when I was in college, 327 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I worked at a factory and we had to join 328 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: the union every summer because it didn't carry over to 329 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: the next summer, right, And the union was pretty strong. Yeah, 330 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: And it was like a steel door factory. We made 331 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: steel doors, and I saw guys just jacking around, right. Well, 332 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: the union would support them. They couldn't, you know, they 333 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: couldn't suspend them, couldn't fire them. And it's like, how 334 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: come this guy's not working? And then something had happened. 335 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: They go run to the union, right, right, So my 336 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: last year before my senior year in college, they go 337 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: on strike, and I'm going, I need to make money. 338 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't need to strike because when you return and 339 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: get better pay in September, I'm not here, right, And 340 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: so we had to to earn strike pay, and I 341 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: think we got like one hundred and thirty dollars a week. 342 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: We had to go out on the picket line, right 343 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: and sit out there for however many hours, and people 344 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: are driving by. Yeah, you lazy bums go to work 345 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there going like I want to work. 346 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: They won't let me, you know. And when they went 347 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: on strike, when they went on strike, and it was 348 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: like a midnight thing, it was it was like a party. 349 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: They were celebrating and everybody who's drinking beer sitting on 350 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: didn't have a barbecuegree all out there. Oh yeah, yeah, 351 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: it was like an episode of the King of Queens, 352 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: just like but even when we did it, Yeah, there's 353 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: a difference between I've been through two strikes, right, and 354 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: so in eighty two, yeah, I'm still twenty two years old. 355 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was still on my little free agent contracts, 356 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: still living the home of my mom, the home of 357 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: my mom in Hempton Park, and so you know that's strike. 358 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: That's why you had fourteen inners. Oh mom had. It's 359 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: very that's very true, Bill. But what what I had 360 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: was it was a casual, you know, strike for me 361 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: because I'm still at home with my mom. So it's 362 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: not like the bills are just you know, in the 363 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: dating me, I'm not even thinking about what Drew Pierce 364 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: is going through, Harvey Martin's going through, Bob Brune is 365 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: going through, you know, Danny White's going through. These guys 366 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: have families and bills. Well, I found that out in 367 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: eighty seven when I was the union rep here in Dallas. 368 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: Now I got my two kids, you know, I got 369 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: a a house, note two cars, you know, and it's 370 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: a different story. Your mentality going into a strike is 371 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: totally different than when you're just a twenty two year 372 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: old just kind of at that channel. Oh oh, we 373 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: don't strike. To me, it's a break, it's a vacation. Yeah, 374 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: I'm still living house people. I'm going hanging out with 375 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: my boys. You know, I have no bills. Mentality its 376 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: totally different anymore. Eighty seven, you missed three or four paychecks. 377 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: Then in eighty seven, yeah, we went. We we went 378 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: three games, yes, and there was one week nothing happened, 379 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah. And then in eighty two I was 380 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: called after we came back from the strike. I believe 381 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: we got a check when we came back for missing Yeah. Really, yeah, 382 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: we did a small check. It wasn't it didn't cover everything, 383 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: but it was a small check for that. We got 384 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: nothing like that in eighty seven. And you talk about 385 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: union meetings back then, could you imagine trying to say 386 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: something against Gene Upshaw. You know he wants to fight 387 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: you right there in the meeting. I don't know if 388 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: that was going on with you guys, but you know, 389 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: it's like football practice in the meetings. You you say 390 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: something out of line. Hey, hey, wait a minute, I'm 391 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: a union I'm a union guy. Can you please ask 392 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: the question? You know, it was it was still the 393 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: wild wild in the newspaper reporters union. There wasn't a 394 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Gene up show. We had a guild that we didn't 395 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: have notice. Yeah, I don't know what's worse there. Yeah, 396 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: and they did nothing, I guarantee you, and I'll never 397 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: forget the day when when Techs walked out there where 398 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: the guys were picketing, and he wanted to argue with 399 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: you guys about what do you do? And he would 400 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: try to talk sense in every or his sense and 401 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: to everybody. It was the funniest thing you ever seen. 402 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: It was like Winston Churchill came out to make this speech, 403 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, and these guys were naboy throwing stones at 404 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: the bus when the replacement players came in and rocking it. Now, 405 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: that was that nineteen eighty seven strike was the most 406 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: unique moment. I mean it was you know how it 407 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: is if it drags off for a long time, you know, 408 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: the enthusiasm kind of wanes a little bit. So you went, 409 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: we went out. We went from like you said, you know, 410 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: everybody out there a party and having a good time, 411 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and the energy levels up and you know they're scabbing 412 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: And remember Tony Dust, said Captain Scabb to Randy White 413 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: next day. The next day he asked the crossover at 414 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: the other captain's camp because of his contract. Yes, well, 415 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: let's be real that that had nothing to do with it, 416 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: because I had the same contract, did you. Let's not 417 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: get into that. I'm set that spect. Let's not get 418 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: into it. We're not getting into that contract, No way, 419 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: not doing it. Was such a great theater too well, 420 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: and they they they they incorporated the neighborhood. People came 421 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: in and helped carry signs that were living out there 422 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: in those apartments that lasted. Next thing you know, I'm 423 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: out there by myself. I'm selling cigarettes or something. TV 424 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: TV cameras were gone, and they were gone. Everybody was gone. 425 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: And the only phot the only confrontation I remember was 426 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: Randy White pulled into a Don's Smerick right in his 427 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: truck and they uh, door set and I don't know 428 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: who that got in front of the truck. They were 429 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: going to stop him from going in, right. He he 430 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: he puts the thing in neutral, right, and he starts 431 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: reving the engine and all of a sudden he pops 432 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: the clutch. That big old truck. Jump stop those guys, scatter. 433 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: I just saw yesterday the golf. We had some good, 434 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: good talks, but now those weren't the good times. At all, 435 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: not at all. All right, Hey, we have to take 436 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: a break. We have to take a break. And what 437 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: do you think about taking phone calls for the first 438 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: time in over a year? 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Get yours today at Dallas Cowboys 485 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets, and we now know when those 486 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: games are going to be played. We do, starting at 487 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: home Monday, September twenty seventh against the Philadelphia. You've got 488 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: a printed up schedule right there, all right, you need one, 489 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: I can get you. I don't have mine with me 490 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: right now. I don't have it memorized, So okay, I'm 491 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: looking Cowboys, okay quickly, since it's already been hashed and rehashed. 492 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: What sticks out to you on the schedule um the 493 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: fact that they've got to do that three games in 494 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: twelve days again around Thanksgiving and and starting and then 495 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: starting with that away game the Sunday before Thanksgiving in 496 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City. They've got to play four away games in 497 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: five games. That is it, Spags. I'm looking at it 498 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: right now. I saw it this morning and I'm thinking 499 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a problem. I mean, you got the 500 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: home game versus the Raiders. Great, that's Thanksgiving Day, but 501 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. And you got to play a 502 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: dark night game in New Orleans, the worst place in 503 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: the world to play a night the worst place in 504 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: the world to play a game. That doesn't matter who's 505 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: playing quarterback, not the Saints. That that I told you guys. 506 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: It sounds the people start to sound like an engine. 507 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: It's like they just transform into some some engine that 508 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: just you can get louder and louder. It can have 509 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: John four Cade playing for him. It doesn't matter John 510 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: four Cade. Remember that. At first I didn't, but now 511 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: it's coming back to me a little bit. What era 512 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: was John four Cade? So he was at Old miss 513 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: when I was in Jackson, Mississippi. He was the quarterback 514 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: in the early early eighties. I remember intercepted him and 515 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: then he ended up being on I don't know if 516 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: they had practice squads or whatever. And then at the 517 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: one year he had to be the quarterback there for 518 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: the Saints. And honestly say, as this day began, I 519 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: didn't he didn't think up well, I got a name 520 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: that I want to bring up before we get to 521 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the mini camps. Did anybody watch the FCS Championship games 522 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: Sam Houston State against Sale of the game, I saw 523 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown, all right. There is a wide 524 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: receiver at sam Houston State that transferred from Howard University, 525 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Jaches Ezzard. He was a player of the game. He 526 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: was the MVP. He was the MVP of the semifinal game. 527 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: The semifinal game, I think he had two receptions for 528 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: touchdowns and he had a kickoff return for a touchdown. 529 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: And in this game he had two catches for touchdown. 530 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Ten catches for one hundred and eight yards. Uh two 531 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: were for touchdowns in the game, and he returned a 532 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: punt for a touchdown that got called back by a 533 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: BS block in the back. This guy, he's he's five 534 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: nine one ninety two and he runs a four four 535 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: three and they can't cover him. They had to double him. 536 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: And that's why the guy that caught the touchdown, I think, 537 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: day a day, that's why. And he the quarterback. Schmid 538 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: drilled it between three guys, right, but they're worried about 539 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: this ball going going to dezard Uh. Even before they 540 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: got into that, he could have scored. The quarterback Smith 541 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: went to the wrong receipt right because he was wide 542 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: open the back of the end on the end cut. 543 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what he was looking at. You know, 544 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: that's the guy you gotta look at. Right the quarterback 545 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: anticipate that he would be double and the safety went 546 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: with the other guy right there. And also and also 547 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: on that last drive to set up the touchdown, he 548 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: caught the pass on fourth down coming back diving on 549 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: that past he's diving here. The ball comes this and 550 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: he almost had another touchdown with a one handed behind 551 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: the back catch that he didn't hold on to quite 552 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: long enough. Although the coach exhausted, right, he was exhausted. 553 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: So I checked I checked him out. He's he played 554 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: this year as a grad student student assist. He's got 555 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: an eligibility a grad transfer. Uh, he can have one 556 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: more year of eligibility, can they all can? Or if 557 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: if he decides not to and looks like he would 558 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: go into the supplemental It was my question yeah, so 559 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: he could not check that out supplemental draft or what 560 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: he also could do he could transfer to Alabama and 561 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: win the Heisman troll, right and get another year. Yeah, 562 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: so I don't know if you can do that second 563 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: transfer like that, but he's got another year of eligibility 564 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: to do that. So, I mean, they just change the 565 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: rules where everybody can transfer, and this is a guy 566 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: that he's a graduate student, he's immediately eligible. Everyone can transfer. 567 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: This whole transfer portal has just changed the whole So 568 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: check this out. In twenty seventeen at Howard, thirty four 569 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: catches eight ninety five, he averaged twenty six point three 570 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: yards a catch, and in twenty eighteen, forty catches for 571 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: one thousand and sixty four average twenty six point six 572 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: yards a catch at twelve touchdowns. Twelve touchdowns. So the 573 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: question is, and nobody recruited him from an SBS school, 574 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: all right, nobody? So what would you do if you 575 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: had his choice? There? Okay, you can you can go 576 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: make yourself eligible for the supplemental draft in July. Okay, 577 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: And obviously the rules on the supplemental draft to team, 578 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: it's the same draft order as this year. But teams 579 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: would you would give up? Like, for instance, if you 580 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: wanted to draft him in the first round, you give 581 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: up your first round pick for next spring. Okay, would 582 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: Jacksonville do that and add him to the Arsenal for 583 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence with the top pick? I doubt it. I 584 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: don't know if Jacksonville will do it. But if I'm 585 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: the player, if you're the player, do you think you 586 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: were the first championship and I was the VP? You 587 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: gotta strike while the iron is hot, yes, and you 588 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: can't wait for another season like this lightning in the 589 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: bottom again to happen. I don't know what's going with 590 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Is he coming back? How many players are 591 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: coming back? How many would turn it? Can they repeat? 592 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to back any that al I did. Right, Well, 593 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: you need to go down to Sam Houston State and 594 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: advise this kid. Should he should come out right now? 595 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: Strike while it's hot and regardless of what happens. Don't 596 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: you know I went undrafted free agent. If I'm bald 597 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: him like this kid, I'm going to come in and 598 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: make somebody's team. That's just all this to it. So 599 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking if supplemental draft I would give up 600 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: a third for him, I'd take a chance on a third. Oh, 601 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: I was definitely, he's definitely. What about the teams that 602 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: have multiple first and second round draft picks? And if 603 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: you have that, yeah, absolutely, And who who did the 604 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: trade to got all the draft picks? It wasn't Miami, 605 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: was it Miami? They traded around? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Miami did, 606 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: because that's who San Francisco traded up with. And then 607 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: they moved back up to six with Philadelphia, but they 608 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: still have probably multiple picks for next year. And then 609 00:35:53,520 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: the quarterback trade um with Darnelda right vitud So if 610 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: I had, if I had an extra one, I'm telling 611 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: you what they were comparing him to Steve Smith Senior. 612 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of like strong legs, you know, a great balance. 613 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: It's kind of like what the Cowboys were looking at 614 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: when they traded for Amari Cooper. Okay, you're giving up 615 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: your first round draft pick next year or for now. 616 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: This is an established player, already established as a Pro Bowl. 617 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: But on the flip side of that, you knew within 618 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: just over a year's time you're about to have to 619 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: pay him one hundred million dollars. Now with this guy, 620 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: if you use a let's say you used a first 621 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: round draft pick on him. You have him not only 622 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: for this season, but for four more years at a 623 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: relatively decent price. It's not free agent money, you know. 624 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: And if you evaluate him as a guy that he's 625 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: your first round pick, you're getting him six months early. 626 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: You're getting in a season early. Yeah, no, absolute, why 627 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: not use it for if he if you evaluate him 628 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: as a first round pick, then why not use your 629 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: first round pick next year? I was just, let's be 630 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: real impressed. They put the best defensive back on him, yes, 631 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: all over the fat, yes, and he made him look 632 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: pretty bad. So if you're the Cowboys, Michael Gallop is 633 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: a free agent after next year, I don't think you 634 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: can afford a first or a second, but I do 635 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: a third. You know what I would do leave Michael 636 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: Gallup alone. I would do, you know what, even with 637 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: this guy's my special team's returner, right, and I got 638 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: another special team's job that that should be filled. Michael 639 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: Parsons should be the punt protector because I'm gonna snap 640 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: him the ball and let him run. They were stuff, 641 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: So they were doing a drill out here, and it 642 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: was kind of a special teams deal where they were 643 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: trying to simulate tackling, and so once you did that, 644 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: then you had to go to the other line and 645 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: you had to take the ball and run and the 646 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: guy had to try to raise up with you. Right, 647 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: he put a move on one poor guy. No paths, right, 648 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: but he put this move on this guy. And I'm going, well, 649 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: that's why in high school he ran for twelve hundred 650 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: yards as a junior. We'll see. Now that's not fair either. 651 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: I must say my first drill. Okay, as a Dallas Cowboy, 652 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: we're working on covering out routes his defensive backs. I 653 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: don't know who swipp flip the switch. But when I 654 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: get up there, all of a sudden, instead of ain't 655 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: going down and out like the other twenty five other 656 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: guys did, they want to come out and up? Come on, man, 657 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: what's going on? Then Gene stalls in my face, calling 658 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: me a boy, and all of this, like, okay, it 659 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: was extremely unnecessary that I bet was No, No, it 660 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: was should not do that. Whatever it was, whatever they 661 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: were doing. Do you remember who the receiver was? It 662 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 1: didn't matter, he didn't make the team. I'm still here. 663 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm still here for years. I'm still here, Okay, minicamp, miniamp, 664 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: tell me about miniamper So, just you know, looking at 665 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: the draft choices, the guys they drafted looked apart. Now 666 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how well they're going to play there 667 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: out there in shorts and whatever, but they looked apart. 668 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons looks like a linebacker. He moves like a linebacker. 669 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: And when they went to very short session of Lebanon eleven, 670 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: uh and then seven on seven. The eleven on leven 671 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: was mostly running run game, and he has this ability 672 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: with all that muck in front of him to see 673 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: the angle, where to go to find the ball players, 674 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: the ball carrier. It was, it was, it was just 675 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: it was amazing to watch, right, and he was always 676 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: kind of like in this right spot at the right 677 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: time the other thing, and maybe this is the way 678 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. But when they were doing individual drills, 679 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: first one in line, every time you go behind me. 680 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: The best part about it when they went to their 681 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: position drills, There's only three linebackers out there, so it 682 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: was like private lessons, right, and guess who was running 683 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: the linebacker drills. George Edwards defensive assistant last year, right 684 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: or consulted whatever they called him. He was taking care 685 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: of the linebackers. So I noticed that right away, very 686 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: vocal running the drills. Dan Quinn was working with the 687 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: defensive lineman the whole time. Whatever they were doing, he 688 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: was down there. And by the way, he's got a 689 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: pretty good nickname that I think he should get some 690 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: advertisement for it, because they call him d Q. Okay, 691 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: I told you that last week. DQ. That's what'd be 692 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: calling these draft picks, the DQ do Derry Quayenne advertisement 693 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: right there. Well, the guys and q do. The guys 694 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: have picked up on him because when they referred to 695 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: him as yeah, well d Q said, and it's like 696 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: d Q uh so, yeah, he was running those drills. 697 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: But the guys looked the part uh Kelvin Joseph. He 698 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: looks like a cornerback. And and and he's really quick. 699 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: Anybody wearing number twenty four, yeah right, And he had 700 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: the right number, twenty four okay, okay, okay, And and 701 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: he just runs a lot faster than idea. And he 702 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have the big interception or twenty four. 703 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: He was covering. He was covering guys. They they didn't 704 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: get past him. Um, he's running. He's running like what 705 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: low for threes? Yeah? Yeah, at four two nine. I 706 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: see that. It's not just the speed though, it's the 707 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: it's the hip movement right, and he's he's very fluid. 708 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: That's what you want. Jabril Cox fourth. I don't know 709 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: how this guy lasted to the fourth round. I mean 710 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: he told you what he's like. Uh, linebacker. They had 711 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: him on the week side Michael Parsons as the middle 712 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: and when they went seven on seven, Um, they there 713 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: was a deep pass, the ball got tipped and Cox 714 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 1: caught it. He picked it up and they were thirty 715 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: yards down field, So he dropped that far with those receivers. 716 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: Think about where they played. You know, you played in 717 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: the SEC, right, and you're looking at balls going down 718 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: the field. You're accustomed to that. This is nothing new 719 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: for you. You know you're gonna get in the way 720 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: of plays. And when you have a linebacker that's a 721 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: customer being down the field the way he did all 722 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: season his whole career in LSU, playing against all these 723 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: SEC teams, it's nothing new to him. Ball skills or 724 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: something that's that's it's something he had to have the start. 725 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: He played one year at LSU. He was at North 726 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: Dakota State before that, playing up the road in Frisco 727 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: and nationale hip and three years and three years and 728 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: so he's an example of a guy getting back to 729 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: that wide receiver from sam Houston State. He's here's an 730 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: example of a guy who played winning national championships at 731 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: the FCS level and then during COVID decides, okay, I'll 732 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: go ahead and transferred national champion. And what'd that do 733 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: for his draft stock? Nothing? He got drafted in the 734 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: fourth round. Well, he looks the part, and the other 735 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: guy that looks the part is quintin Bohanna. I was 736 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: looking for some dump truck to come in there, run Terry. Well, yeah, 737 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: there there you go. And that's said because Don Terry 738 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: was so good God coming out of college. Please. So 739 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: he's six four six four, three thirty or three twenty 740 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: seven whatever. He probably ate breakfast and he's three thirty 741 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 1: and it's a good three thirty and he can move. 742 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: And we need this guy to be good because he's 743 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: a great interview, right, somebody at somebody asking him about 744 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: clogging up the middle and whatever. He goes, Oh man, 745 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: he goes, linebackers love me, you know. And he was 746 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: just everything that everything that he that he that he 747 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: had to say, it was somewhat funny. Uh. And they 748 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: were talking about, well, what do you need to prove 749 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: on He goes, well, I got to get stronger. He goes, 750 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: I was strong in college. Now I got to get 751 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: NFL strong and and so he understands it, uh, and 752 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: talk about private lessons because he was the only like 753 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: nose tackle that they had to work with, right, oci 754 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: O Digazuo is a three technique, but yeah, this Bohannan 755 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: guy keeping and he kind of dinged his shoulder. Uh. 756 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: And he came out and they didn't have another defensive 757 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: tackle to go in there. So d Q turns his 758 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: hat around and goes and plays nose tackle right and 759 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: always do a stand up and go like this. Right. 760 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: They asked Bohannah about it, and he goes, yeah, he goes, 761 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 1: you know these coaches, they get older and they still 762 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: think they go back to the old days. Right. And 763 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: then he went back in right a couple of plays 764 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: later and he goes, yeah, he goes, I had to 765 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: go get DQ and tap him out. Tell me about 766 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: the kids from Kentucky. How do you look the other kid? 767 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: Bohannah's from Kentucky. But right, Joseph was a guy I 768 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: was talking about twenty Yeah, and I'll tell you another 769 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: guy who looks the part is the Chauncey Golston. He's long, 770 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, his arms are forever. He's tall, slender, and 771 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: he's pretty quick. They had him working at right right 772 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: defensive end and you know, he said, I can play 773 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: both whatever you whatever you want, I'm being on that 774 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: defensive end side. He's more. I think he's he's a 775 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 1: defense the way his legs are built, it's a defensive line. 776 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: He's too he I think at the at the Pro 777 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: day he was two seventy. He got down to two seventy. 778 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: I think he played more at two seventy. That's good. So, 779 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of Tyrone Crawford as far as 780 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: what his commensions were coming out of college, you know. 781 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: And then the guy that everybody was so worried about 782 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: because they took him in the third round, Nashan. Right, 783 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: he's tall, he's skinny, but he can move and he 784 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: was interviews to his interview was great, and he's been 785 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 1: having this back and forth thing with Richard sh Yeah, right, yeah, 786 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: what is going on? Well, he said he noticed that 787 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: what the media made a big deal of him, saying, I'm, 788 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, more more athletic. And he goes, and I 789 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: didn't mean anything by it, So he goes, I made sure. 790 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Instagram. He said, yeah, 791 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: he said, m m hey, no offense. Yeah, and and 792 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: Sherman was evidently okay with him. All I understand, but 793 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: he could move. You asked about hip hips. Oh my, 794 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: so he broke up one pass and again, take this 795 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. He's playing against guys that aren't 796 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: going to be in the league, right. The two quarterbacks 797 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: were basically here on a tryout basis, And the reason 798 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: they were here on a tryout basis is they needed 799 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback to do mini camp because they wouldn't let dnut. 800 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: They thought Denucci would be able to be eligible and 801 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: he wasn't, so they brought those two guys in. And 802 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: the receivers you know who know. And the wind is 803 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: blowing on Saturday. They may have a problem out there 804 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 1: with a wind tunnel away. The new building is there, 805 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: but anyway, he makes a diving interception and and and 806 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: I liked what he had to say afterwards, and he goes, yeah, 807 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: he goes, you know, I make the diving interception and 808 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm used to being down. He goes, 809 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: I had to think, Oh, I can get up and run, 810 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 1: and he did. So keep an eye on this guy 811 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: because you know, if if you need a guy to 812 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: body up any and he can run, that's a tall 813 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: guy to get the pass over. If he's cover actually 814 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: knows who he's covering and what to do. To me, 815 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: what's as important is just having the mindset and the 816 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: culture to change. Because they talked about it, cowboys are 817 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: looking for more playmaking defensive backs. Well, how do we 818 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: get to this position to where we don't have any 819 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: playmaking defensive back? And they don't mean tackling, they don't 820 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: mean making plays on the running back. We're talking about 821 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: making plays on the ball deep down the field. We're 822 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: talking about recognition by safety. Instead of him being caught 823 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: up on a twenty yard incut, you have to be 824 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: ready for that post route that's coming behind you. So 825 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: the recognition of the schemes that are becoming at you, 826 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: that's what's important. It's not about you know how fast 827 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: you can run and what you're looking drills? Can you 828 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: make plays on the ball. That's the culture that needs 829 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: to be continued. I'm sorry it was continued, it was discontinued. 830 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: That's the culture that needs to begin again around him, 831 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: the one, the one undrafted free agent. Can we save 832 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: it for the next segment. Okay? Remember that? Okay, that's 833 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 1: our tea. I better writing down one undrafted remember three 834 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: two minutes the next Everson Walls undrafted free agent. Okay, 835 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: and Gary Jackie Flash requested that we give the phone 836 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: number again because we were a little quick on it 837 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 1: the first time. Eight eight eight eight five five two 838 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: two nine seven. That's eight eight eight Jackie Flash eight 839 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five five two two nine seven and 840 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent that caught Mickey's eye. 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It was a safety 882 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: from Purdue, Tyler Coyle, six foot two oh nine, undrafted. 883 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: He looked like he knew what he was doing back there, 884 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: so we'll keep an eye on him. Also, one of 885 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: the guys I didn't mention Mukuamu. Is that how I say, 886 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: Israel Mukamu you can call him is he is? He 887 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: six four two twelve and they moved him to safety, 888 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: and he looked like a safety. I mean he was 889 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: fluid and his physical presence was pretty impressive. So keep 890 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: an eye on those two safeties. I like him, And yeah, 891 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't think many people knew about him because J. C. 892 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: Horne played opposite him at South South Carolina, right, and 893 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: so when you watch jac Horne you probably saw him 894 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: in practice. It must have had a great defense in 895 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: South Carolina, right, Yeah, they got a good defense, got 896 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: a great defensive backfield didn't work out, didn't really work 897 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: out for them, as far as I was going to say, 898 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: they weren't very good. Now, the running back that we 899 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: were talking about for South Dakota State, his name is 900 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: Davis Isaiah, and he's a freshman from Joplin, Missouri. One 901 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy eight yards on fourteen carries and that 902 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: eighty five yard go ahead touchdown. I had a feeling 903 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be enough. I just knew it. And the 904 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: way the game was going and the announcers, oh, they 905 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: backed him up. They got a long way to go. 906 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: It's like, no, it only takes one place. Now, the 907 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: eighty five yard was amazing. This is a kid here, 908 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: he's a true refreshman. If I'm not mistaken. Now, that 909 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: was a very good runner and a very good ball game. 910 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,280 Speaker 1: Don't sleep on the I still say one double at 911 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 1: a class, guys, that's you got a lot of heart 912 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: coming from thost. I finally remember the acronym, so I 913 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: can say FCS now with you know, because I never 914 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: knew is a FBS. It's so FCS. I got it. 915 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm moving on from one double A and I tell you, guys, 916 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: I have to go back to this schedule. And we 917 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: started talking about how it was around Thanksgiving, coming out 918 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving, and that that stretch of the three games 919 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: twelve days. So you're still looking at three NFC East 920 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: games in a row, two against Washington UH and one 921 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: against the Giants in New York. So two of those 922 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: three games on the road. That part right there just 923 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: makes me extremely nervous for the last five or against 924 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: the East. There goes the Eagles, Yes, there go the 925 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 1: Eagles as the last game. All right, let's get more 926 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: in the draft here. In a second. But we've got 927 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: Philip from France. All right, Hi, how you doing? We 928 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: are good? Okay. I'd like to say one one thing 929 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: to mister Walter. I wish to see you soon in Campton. 930 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm not um old enough to watch you play, but 931 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: I do some research and I love it. I just 932 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: very quick questions after this rookie minicamp, how many UM 933 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: of our rookies or drafted rookies we'll make the team 934 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: UM for next season? Thanks for taking Michael, take care 935 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: and be safe. Bye bye, thank you. What does Philip 936 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: good for being the first ever caller on BIX shots? Uh? 937 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: Do we have any awards that we can calls? We 938 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: didn't know we had listeners lessons? Yes, right, let's come 939 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: up with something. So how many of these draft picks 940 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 1: make the final roster? Well, I was thinking if out 941 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: of eleven, if you can get seven to make the team, 942 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. And then get practice squads too. Yeah, 943 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: and a couple of practice squads, I would think, you know, 944 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 1: unless somebody they get released and somebody picks them up. 945 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: You know they think we're talking. Yeah, I think all elevens. 946 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: You got Tyler Coyle making me too. As the undrafted safety. 947 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: He's going to knock off one of those veterans in 948 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: a one year deal. We'll see how how well he 949 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: does when se that big boys, we're talking draft picks, 950 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: but also, like you said, undrafted free agents. One of 951 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: them might just slip in there. Yeah, so yeah, I 952 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: could see. We got we got two undrafted free agents 953 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame, so come on, yeah, 954 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: we gotta give them some tried, tried. And speaking of that, 955 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys opened the preseason against the Pittsburgh Steelers in 956 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game on August fifth. Man, you 957 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: tell me the famers. Oh my god, Cowboys in Steelers. Yeah, man, yea. 958 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: And your buddy Jimmy Johnson's going into Ja Jaj's going in. 959 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: You know. We talked man, me and Jimmy. Cool. Yeah, 960 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: we talked. You got a hold of them. I got 961 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,919 Speaker 1: a hold of them. Yeah right, that was interesting. Good. 962 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Actually, he yeah, we saved that 963 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: for next week. Yeah, next Tuesday. What I'm here? Yeah, 964 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: that's right, not the following Tuesday. Thursday, Yeah, Thursday. But 965 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: the other thing on those drafted players and one of 966 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: the reasons that the Stephen Jones cited that they wanted 967 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: to go ahead and use those draft picks is because 968 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: of where where they are with the salary cap, and 969 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: so these drafted players have a better chance. There's more 970 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: of them that have a better chance of making the 971 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: team this year than in past years because of where 972 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: they are in the salary cat they're squeezed. Yeah, and 973 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: they would have to knock off somebody that's you know, 974 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: the salary based salary. I mean you could say five 975 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars if you if a rookie, you know, a 976 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: sixth round draft Bohannah makes the roster, and you release 977 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: a guy that's making you know, a veteran minimum of 978 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: one point one million. Well, and and if you look 979 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: at it, though, the two guys they signed in free agency, 980 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: right Carlos Watkins and Brett Urban. Watkins is in his 981 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: fifth year and Urban is eight years. But after that, 982 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: Terrell Basham, he got a little bit of money, he 983 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: got more money, and then the rest of the guys 984 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: they might knock off. I might be a second year guy. 985 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: So it's not really like you're saving who heck of life. 986 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: They don't have, Like there's no Um Thomas the linebacker, 987 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: the veteran last year, like he's not Joe's not here anymore. 988 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: So they already got rid of Antoine Woods and Woods 989 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: is gone. So there's a reason that Woods was let 990 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: go because they took care of their business in the 991 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: draft getting these defensive linemen, so that that move was 992 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: made then and then guys like Noah Brown and and 993 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: Um Wilson, Cedric Wilson, who's would make the same amount 994 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: as Woods was. If you're the fourth and fifth wide receiver, 995 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: better be careful because you never know if Hooku can 996 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: play or he's worth keeping, or if you have a 997 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: rookie free agent that can come in and take your spot. 998 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: And you save a million dollars because when I looked 999 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: at the salary cap, every millions going to count. You know, 1000 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: it's not like you say, oh, it's only a million. See, 1001 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: that's where the Cowboys are out on the Sam Houston 1002 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: statewide receiver US using next year's first round pick because 1003 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 1: you have to pay a money this year. They don't. 1004 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: They don't have the money to spend the first round pick. 1005 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: In the third round, fourth round, you will be able to. 1006 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: But again, those are blind drafts, like you write down 1007 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: I want and we wanted fourth and then however, the 1008 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: order is the you know what's like bidding on a house, right, 1009 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: that's right? All right? One more thing on the schedule, Um, 1010 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys go to New England on October seventeenth. Who will 1011 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback be for the Patriots in that game? 1012 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: The Patriots now have what's the date? A game that's 1013 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: October seventeenth, six sixth game of the season, sixth game 1014 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: of the season. The Patriots yesterday signed Brian Hoyer. So 1015 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: now they've got Cam Newton, their first round pick, Mac Jones, 1016 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, and Brian Hoyer their four quarterbacks in camp. 1017 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: So who's going to be playing quarterback for the Patriots 1018 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys go in there on Sunday October seventeenth. 1019 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I still see Cam Newton, Mac Jones. Why they signed 1020 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer? Maybe so the Cowboys don't get them? Oh 1021 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: so nicky Nicky says, the Cowboys are still in the 1022 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: marketing for a backup. Oh, I think they are. I 1023 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: think they should be. I think they're waiting for somebody 1024 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: like that to get released. You don't jump the gun here, 1025 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: but you want them, you want them now. If it's 1026 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: a veteran, veteran doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You like 1027 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: them for the start of training camp, not the end 1028 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: of training kiss. Yes, And that's when most of those 1029 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: guys will get released. At the end of training Well, 1030 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton got released this week last it was the 1031 01:01:50,880 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: week after the draft, Joe Burrow. But somebody, I would 1032 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: think some of these other teams are going to release. 1033 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: How much money do you have to spend on it 1034 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: at that point if you don't have a job? Two million, 1035 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: a million and a half. I mean, the Cowboys have 1036 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: two million to spend quarterback. They could make that okay, 1037 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: because they're gonna ask my question. They're gonna have because 1038 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: because I was I was saying, you know, AJ McCarron 1039 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,919 Speaker 1: had a history with nuss Meyer at Alabama, and I thought, okay, 1040 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: a J. McCarron might be a guy that they could 1041 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: bring in. Not that he's got many NFL skins on 1042 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: the wall to speak of, but he got signed by 1043 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta for one point two million dollars, So that was 1044 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: the market. That's the market for those quarterbacks now. Yeah, 1045 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: and especially the closer you get the training camp and 1046 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: you don't have a job. One point two looks good. 1047 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys are sitting there with four quarterbacks. Yeah, 1048 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, with with Dak and Garrett Gilbert and Danucci 1049 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: and Cooper Rush. Okay, and you don't want you don't 1050 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: need five quarterbacks in camp. No, so somebody would get 1051 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: somebody would go, would get released. If you got a 1052 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: veteran that's kind of proven that you think, Okay, this 1053 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: this guy. While you're gonna say there's competition, he's probably 1054 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: my guy. So yeah, I mean, Jacksonville has a bunch 1055 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks now, and they had signed h Blaine Gabbert, 1056 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: who was their backup last Papa Bay. Tampa Bay. I'm sorry, 1057 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Yeah, yeah, Tampa Bay's got a bunch, and 1058 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: they had signed another guy the week before, Ryan I think, 1059 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Bryan Griffin. I think, yeah, that's it. Yeah, so yeah, 1060 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: they may release one of those guys and you never know. 1061 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Um and there was another veteran that just got signed 1062 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: um Well. And then Tampa also drafted Kyle Trask, the 1063 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: rocky second round draft pick out of Florida. So yeah, 1064 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,439 Speaker 1: some of these, some of these guys, they're gonna there's 1065 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: definitely gonna be quarterbacks available at the end of training camp, 1066 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: and I would imagine kind of, you know, betting on 1067 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: that right now and just kind of say, okay, let's 1068 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 1: hold tight. We got enough to go to training camp. 1069 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: But if something happens, here's what we can do. Okay, 1070 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: that does it for this edition to Mix Shots. I 1071 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: can't wait till next week's show where we get to 1072 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: hear about Everson's conversation with Jimmy Johnson. Oh boy, that's 1073 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: a great tease. Don't miss this, all right, Remember we 1074 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: get Jimmy to join us and they can. Please, we'll 1075 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: see it and we'll see what kind of what kind 1076 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: of pull Everson has. You guys want it. I did 1077 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: it to make the moves. I'm here. You get Jimmy. 1078 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: I'll still be here, so y'all make the move. Don't 1079 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: put anything on me. Hey, we'll tell him. We'll put 1080 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 1: him in the Mix Shots Ring of Honor. That's right, 1081 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's right. And Philippe goes into the Ring 1082 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: of and we need to talk about about the Hall 1083 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: of Famer, that's right. Yeah, okay, No, that would be 1084 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: very cool. Yeah, him about the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 1085 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: maybe someone who's recently talked to him could ask you 1086 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: into okay. We continue with more mix shots next Tuesday 1087 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: at eleven thirty, where we will take more of your 1088 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:18,919 Speaker 1: mini phone calls. I'm not coming up next week. I'm not. Yeah, 1089 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: I forgot Chris waited for you. This has been a 1090 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 1091 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Football Club.