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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, Happy Friday,

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Speaker 1: Everybody Happy Sino to Mayo as well Chris Brown and

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Speaker 1: with Chris Trepasso. It's the Prison Chris Show here on

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Speaker 1: a Friday, One Bills Live, taking you up until three

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Speaker 1: pm and heading you into the weekend. And I was

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Speaker 1: talking to Chris earlier before we came on the air.

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Speaker 1: I have officially given up on trying to celebrate Sinko

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Speaker 1: to Mayo anywhere out in public because it is virtually

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Speaker 1: impossible to get within a mile of a Mexican restaurant

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Speaker 1: without having to wait an hour and a half. And

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the breaking point for me was

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Speaker 1: two years ago. My wife and I are like, look

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Speaker 1: sitting down at some place like we had not gotten

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Speaker 1: a reservation. Like the day kind of snuck up on us.

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Speaker 1: Because usually if you're gonna make a reservation on Sinco

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Speaker 1: to my own to a Mexican place, you gotta do

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Speaker 1: it like a week or two in advance, and we

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Speaker 1: had not done that. So I was like, well, let

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Speaker 1: me just go get takeout for us. You know, I'll

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Speaker 1: be back in a half an hour. Call the order

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Speaker 1: in which you know the place is like ten to

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from my house. Call the order in figuring

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Speaker 1: all right, by the time I get there, I'll probably

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Speaker 1: only have to wait ten fifteen minutes get there, And

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Speaker 1: I stood there for an hour and the place was

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Speaker 1: a zoop. They had an open patio outside, they had

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Speaker 1: music going. I mean, it was nice, you know, they

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Speaker 1: were blowing it out. And I get why. It's like

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Speaker 1: a big revenue day for the Mexican places. And I'm

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Speaker 1: a Mexican food junkie, but I'm standing there for an

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Speaker 1: hour and I'm as I'm standing there with other people

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Speaker 1: like rolling their eyes for how long they're waiting. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can do this anymore. I just

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Speaker 1: I don't have the patience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 3: So last year, my wife, her sister, and our best

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Speaker 3: friend were at our Mexican restaurant in town and the

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Speaker 3: only seat was outside on the patio a lot of

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Speaker 3: the places they do with the big bands, right, and

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Speaker 3: we were right in front of the band so we

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Speaker 3: could We were literally texting each other at the table

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Speaker 3: because it was so loud, but usually communicate yes to talk,

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Speaker 3: so we were like we can't do this anymore. We're

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Speaker 3: making some nachos at home tonight, you're I mean, for

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Speaker 3: as much as it's fun to get to those restaurants

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Speaker 3: any other time of the year, today's usually.

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Speaker 2: Not the best idea.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. So I did sinco da quatro last night,

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Speaker 1: just made some tacos at home, and that'll have to

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Speaker 1: be my fill of it. And that's the way I'm

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Speaker 1: playing it, because I mean, look, I like to do

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's blown up more like in

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Speaker 1: the last seven to eight years. I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: it seems like all of a sudden it went from

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Speaker 1: like here to here, like way up in popularity. And

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing, too, is this is right

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Speaker 1: around the time where the weather really starts to change,

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Speaker 1: and so everybody in Buffalo comes out of hibernation and

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Speaker 1: this is their first excuse to go out and really

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Speaker 1: tie one on if they want, or fill their bellies

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Speaker 1: to the hilt with Mexican food. So I think that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I was gonna say that, And

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Speaker 3: I think it just kind of like jives together, like

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Speaker 3: nicer weather, Mexican food, a corona.

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Speaker 3: They really align, So I do think that we get

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Speaker 1: Like you say today, don't let me discourage you, like,

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Speaker 1: if you want to have fun tonight, go ahead. But

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Speaker 1: I've just had some tough experiences in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, so I do either sinco daquatro or hit

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Speaker 1: my Mexican places of choice a little bit more sporadically

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Speaker 1: at different points of the year. I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 1: are going to talk draft, obviously with Chris being here

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Speaker 1: as he is the CBS Sports NFL Draft and player analysts,

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Speaker 1: so we'll be dicing up some stuff with the Bills class,

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Speaker 1: probably rifle through the division as well. When our good

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Speaker 1: friend Eric at Hoolme comes on in the second hour

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Speaker 1: of the show. He recently put a piece up on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com grading each of the teams in the division.

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Speaker 1: Chris put together a piece on cbssports dot Com about

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Speaker 1: grades for every player in the in the first round,

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Speaker 1: so we'll dice some of that up too, and grade

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Speaker 1: to quickly go around the NFL not too much earth

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Speaker 1: to that slower time. Yes, we'll have OTA's coming up

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Speaker 1: here rookie mini camps, but as we kind of make

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Speaker 1: biggest news that came down it came down late yesterday

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Speaker 1: another defensive tackle signing a giant contract, Dexter Lawrence for

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Speaker 1: the Giants, all pro player four years, ninety million dollar

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Speaker 1: does this mean that there's no way they're getting a

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Speaker 1: deal done for Saquon Barkley because they've paid Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: now they've paid Dexter Lawrence. Is there enough money left

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Speaker 3: He's on the franchise tag this year. I think Joe Shane,

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Speaker 3: that's way more important than a running back, even a

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Speaker 1: They're already throwing a lot of money around to some

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Speaker 3: Probably, I think around twenty five million, which seems high

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Speaker 3: again for the defensive tackle spot just looking at the

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Speaker 3: the floor of the defensive tackle spot has significantly been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing for sure, the franchise tag value for

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Speaker 1: to put the tag on. Deebo Samuel isn't a big

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Speaker 1: but Deebo Samuel claims this is his opinion. He says

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are the most hated in the NFL for him,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Obviously, he's still a little bit sore

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Speaker 1: about how the NFC title game went last year when

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Speaker 1: they were a mass unit. I mean, everybody was hurt.

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Speaker 1: They were down to their third or fourth quarterback. His quote,

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Speaker 1: we lost the NFL Championship because we played with ten people.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's sucky circumstances. I mean, it's not all

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Speaker 1: lousy circumstances three weeks after the DeMar Hamlin situation. They

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Speaker 1: got to play the Cincinnati Bengals, the same team that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Bills are actually pretty banged up in

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals game too. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 3: more national media, no day Kwon Jones being that late

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Speaker 3: So I don't really blame Deebo Samuel for having kind

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Speaker 3: years ago losing that close NFC title game to the

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Speaker 1: And when you think about it, their quarterback situation is

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Speaker 1: still yeah, it's pretty up in the air right now,

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Speaker 1: Like is Trey Lance ready to assume him the role?

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Speaker 1: When's Brock Purty going to be ready and healthy? If

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Speaker 1: and when he comes back, does he step right back

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there's been a lot of different quarterbacks that

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Speaker 3: I think it's too like a young excited rookie that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one other point too, Anthony Richardson has an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going to be interesting is downs. As you know,

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Speaker 1: Now there has been some mixed opinion on the Kincaid pick,

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Speaker 1: You gave him an average grade on this pick. I've

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Speaker 3: So, evaluating an entire draft, you obviously watch a ton

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Speaker 3: But in my mind when it happened, I thought they

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Speaker 3: We didn't get to see it a lot earlier in

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Speaker 3: I think the Bills have always placed a priority on

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Speaker 2: At his age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know that's a guy. I think what

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Speaker 1: But I but he's listed as a tight end, and

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Speaker 3: the slot? Is it a linebacker? Is it a safety?

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Speaker 3: The Bills can really mix and match.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they could go double slot. I mean King k

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Speaker 1: could be on one side and you have one of

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Speaker 1: those other guys on the other, and then you really

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Speaker 1: got to make some difficult decisions. We want to remind

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Speaker 1: you that it is obl fan Mailbag Friday, So any

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Speaker 1: question you have on the Bills, the draft, free agency,

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Speaker 1: the cap or the league get large. You can call

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Speaker 1: us at eight h three oh five fifty local number

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Speaker 1: to get on board, or one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five point fifty if you're making a call

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Speaker 1: from outside the local area and we got open lines

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Speaker 1: for you. So any question you got under the sun,

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Speaker 1: Chris and I will do our best to answer those,

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Speaker 1: Or you can hit us up at one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: on Twitter if that's an easier way for you to

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Speaker 1: fire off a question and we'll get them all answered

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Speaker 1: for you through the course of the show. The other

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted your take on, Chris was I know

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Speaker 1: you were a big fan of the Dorian Williams pick,

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Speaker 1: but more importantly, what has been your review of what

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Speaker 1: the Bills have said about the pick, Because initially, the

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Speaker 1: night the pick was made, Brandon Bean says Matt Mulano's

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Speaker 1: backup for right now, he's going to be outside. He's

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Speaker 1: not going to be part of the middle linebacker competition.

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Speaker 1: And then by the next night, after night two of

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Speaker 1: the or the end of the draft, when he's doing

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Speaker 1: the draft wrap up, he said, wow, we haven't ruled

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Speaker 1: it out yet, so he may or may not be

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Speaker 1: part of the middle linebacker competition. It's just going to

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Speaker 1: depend on how quick on the uptake he is with

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Speaker 1: what is a more complex system than the read and

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Speaker 1: react scheme that he kind of played at Tulane. What

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Speaker 1: do you make of the decision changing in terms of

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Speaker 1: Dorian Williams's future and where he might line up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first off, I absolutely love the pick. I had

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Speaker 3: a second round grade on him. I do not think

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Speaker 3: he is Terrell Bernard two point zero. I had a

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Speaker 3: fifth round grade on Terrel Bernard. Dorian Williams on film.

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Speaker 3: I think he plays like a middle linebacker, like your classic.

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Speaker 1: He's got a physical style, very.

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Speaker 2: Physical takes on blocks.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I love that he was still good in coverage. He's

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Speaker 3: not just a downhill Brandon Spikes type player. Being only

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Speaker 3: six foot, he has arms that are almost long is

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Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmonds, which is remarkable. He's five inches shorter, very

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Speaker 3: very long player. The changing of the comment from Brandon

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Speaker 3: Bean to me, I read that as initially the Bills

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Speaker 3: are like, all right, at the very least, he's Matt

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Speaker 3: Milano's backup, But watching his film, I mean, if I

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Speaker 3: can come away with this take, I'm sure the Bills

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Speaker 3: did as well. He's an inside linebacker. And to further

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Speaker 3: that point, I think, I mean, I certainly do not

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Speaker 3: know the Bills scheme as well as Brandon Bean or

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, nowhere close. But in today's NFL we know

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Speaker 3: the Bills play nickel more than any other team ninety

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Speaker 3: plus percent of the time. There's two inside linebackers that

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Speaker 3: have to do a lot of different things, and I

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Speaker 3: think with Milano and Edmunds, over the last five years,

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Speaker 3: they've had two interchangeable players regardless of what formation, where

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Speaker 3: the tight end is, where the slot corner or the

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Speaker 3: slot receiver is, they could flex out and cover those players.

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Speaker 3: So it's not as what it used to be, where

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Speaker 3: there's an inside middle linebacker that's just between the tackles

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Speaker 3: run stuff, and your weak side guy gets to run

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Speaker 3: and chase. I think you almost need two players that

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Speaker 3: can almost be interchangeable, like the Bill's safeties are. One

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Speaker 3: point from Brandon Bean, he's kind of done this media tour.

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Speaker 4: This week.

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Speaker 3: He was on Chris Long's podcast and he mentioned specifically

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Speaker 3: kind of an evolution of the Bill's scheme that we

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Speaker 3: kind of talked about before the draft, that maybe this

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Speaker 3: is what they'll do if they don't pick someone like

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Speaker 3: Jack Campbell, who was that bigger Tremaine edmund sized linebacker.

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Speaker 3: He mentioned that at times, for as good as Edmunds

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Speaker 3: was in coverage over the last five years, it was

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Speaker 3: almost unfair for him to face a five foot ten,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty pound slot receiver way too quick

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Speaker 3: for him, even though he was long and athletic in rangy.

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Speaker 3: He kind of spoke to Dorian Williams will be able

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Speaker 3: to match up just because of his size and the

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Speaker 3: quickness that comes with it when he's dealing with a

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Speaker 3: very quick slot receiver or a smaller trade end or

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Speaker 3: a running back that is either lined up in the

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Speaker 3: slot or out of the backfield. So I think the

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Speaker 3: Bills understood, we love the range of Edmunds, his size

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Speaker 3: in the middle of that defense, but actually we're going

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Speaker 3: to just see so many more slot receivers, smaller running backs.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's actually better and it's okay to have two

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Speaker 3: smaller linebackers because Dorian Williams is just going to naturally

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Speaker 3: match up better with those smaller, quicker receivers on the outside.

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Speaker 3: That to me was the biggest testament or indicator that

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Speaker 3: we might see Dorian Williams on the field earlier rather

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Speaker 3: than later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, it's not like anything's a sure thing.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be dropped into what is going to

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Speaker 1: be a very heavy competition, you know, with Bernard Specter,

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Speaker 1: I think Klein is basically veteran insurance. If all else fails,

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Speaker 1: they would go with Kline. I don't see him as

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Speaker 1: an active part of the competition because then you got

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Speaker 1: too many cooks in the kitchen. The young guys aren't

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Speaker 1: getting enough reps to prove themselves. They know what Klin

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Speaker 1: can do, and I think if all else fails, he'll

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Speaker 1: be the guy, and maybe even on a part time

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Speaker 1: basis with that, if it comes to it. But I

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Speaker 1: think the other guys are going to be the ones

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Speaker 1: that are going to be rotating through and getting the reps,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully they each get enough to kind of prove

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Speaker 1: themselves worthy or unworthy, because you can play yourself into

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Speaker 1: a job just as quickly as you can play yourself out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. Is this

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Speaker 1: a three man race or is this a four man race?

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Speaker 1: Is it just dots and Bernard inspector or is Williams

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Speaker 1: part of that mix too. It'll be a thing to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on through OTA's and mini camp to

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Speaker 1: kind of have a sense as to how deep they're

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Speaker 1: gonna make that competition going in to training camp. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty the number to get on

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Speaker 1: board one eight eight eight five fifty two five point fifty.

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Speaker 1: You got a question for us? It is OBL Friday

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Speaker 1: Fan mail Bag Day. So any question you might have

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Speaker 1: on the draft, the Bills, the division, the league, get large,

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Speaker 1: the salary cap, fire them away. We're here for you.

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Speaker 1: Open lines at eight oh three oh five fifty. Chris

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Speaker 1: and I take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to your questions, whether it's on the phone

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Chris Trepasso with you here on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: OBL Fan Friday Mailbag is open as well as a

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Speaker 1: line for you at eight oh three five point fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight a eighty five point fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Any question you got on the Bills, the draft, the league,

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Speaker 1: the cap. Whatever it is, you let us know, we'll

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Speaker 1: do our best to answer it for you, and we

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Speaker 1: go to the phones. Leading us off today is Noah

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Speaker 1: in New York. What do you got for us? No,

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Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how are you Thanks for taking the call?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So overall like the draft, liked what we did with

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Speaker 5: what we had. I would pick twenty seven. I think

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Speaker 5: in kid's going to be a stud. One position that

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Speaker 5: was not addressed, and that what I think is a

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Speaker 5: level concern and I'd like to kind of get your

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Speaker 5: guys take on it, your feel on it. Is the

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Speaker 5: position of right tackle. I have not been impressed with

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Speaker 5: the play of Spencer Brown. I know it's a position

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Speaker 5: that might require a little patience. I know he's a

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Speaker 5: little young. Not impressed with this play. I think that's

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Speaker 5: a big liability on the line. I love the guards

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Speaker 5: we drafted. I love the attention being spent on the interior.

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Speaker 5: I think that was a big, big point he tried

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Speaker 5: to make there, especially when you got a guy like

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Speaker 5: Quinn Williams in the division. But I'm worried about right

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Speaker 5: tackle guys, and I don't think he has much competition

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Speaker 5: so i'd like your guys take on that. And my

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Speaker 5: main worry from this not only comes from the play

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Speaker 5: I see on the field, but also the comments made

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Speaker 5: from Brandon Bean for the end of the season. I

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Speaker 5: just think there's such a disconnect between what being says

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Speaker 5: and I'm a being guy. I'm usually behind him, but

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Speaker 5: you know, I think in his press conference after the

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Speaker 5: Bengals game, he discussed how he liked what he saw

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Speaker 5: at Spencer Brown, and I just think that's a big

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Speaker 5: liability and I don't think he has much competition, and

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Speaker 5: I think we only have Question Bary behind him. So

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Speaker 5: I think that's a position we were gonna need this

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Speaker 5: year to be strong on the line. And i'd like

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Speaker 5: your guys take. Is my concern pretty valid there? Or

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Speaker 5: am I kind of shooting from the hip? I'd like

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Speaker 5: your guys feedback on that. But thank you guys, and

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Speaker 5: go Bills. I'm still hopeful for the year at thank

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Speaker 5: you all right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks though I appreciate the call. Good question. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the reason, the main reason, at least in my eyes,

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Speaker 1: as to why Brandon Bean is trying to be patient

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Speaker 1: with Spencer Brown is for two reasons. Number One, the

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Speaker 1: guy came in and during full blown Covid really didn't

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Speaker 1: have a training camp his rookie year, and then I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: he's the twenty one class still. Covid, though restrictions, not

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Speaker 1: a real training camp, and for an offensive lineman to

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Speaker 1: not have a real training camp, that's really costly because

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Speaker 1: that's really the only time where the pads are on

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Speaker 1: and you're hitting, and he didn't do that. Not to

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Speaker 1: mention the fact that his FCS, his last FCS season

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Speaker 1: in college football was canceled, so he didn't play his

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Speaker 1: last year of college and then didn't have an NFL

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Speaker 1: full scale training camp and then had to jump in

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Speaker 1: and play right tackle, and so I think that stunted

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Speaker 1: his growth his rookie year, and then last year, right

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Speaker 1: before training camp he has the back surgery and so

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Speaker 1: he can't do anything for another training camp. So if

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Speaker 1: you look at it, the guy has never really had

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Speaker 1: a full scale ramp up to the regular season. He's

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Speaker 1: just kind of been dropped in out of the sky

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Speaker 1: to figure it out on the fly. So I think

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Speaker 1: the deck in some ways has been stacked against him

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Speaker 1: each of the last two years. Hopefully he can get

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Speaker 1: through OTA's mini camp and come into training camp fully

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Speaker 1: healthy and participating fully. I think that will do him

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Speaker 1: a world of good. Second part, Yes, question Berry's here.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't forget about Tommy do guy in an ACL

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Speaker 1: last year in Week three, missed the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: There hasn't been anybody in this building that I've seen

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Speaker 1: more through the course of the offseason than Tommy Doyle,

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Speaker 1: and he looks ready, So I think I don't know

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Speaker 1: what his outlook is physically, whether he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a full participant at the start of training camp, knowing

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Speaker 1: the injury happened in Week three down in the Dolphins game,

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Speaker 1: when he basically played the last ten snaps with a

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Speaker 1: torn ACL because they had nobody else to put on

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Speaker 1: the field, and he said, I'll finish the game. That's

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Speaker 1: his stiffest competition coming into this season. How much of

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Speaker 1: a competitor he can be is going to be predicated

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Speaker 1: on his ACL timeline. But I think the guys loaded

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Speaker 1: for Bear, and he does want to push Spencer Brown,

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Speaker 1: who's his draft class mate. But I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: look back at his college tape in Miami of Ohio,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a very very good right tackle

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Speaker 1: for them, I think he was like all MAC, first team,

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Speaker 1: All Mac, I want to say. So, how he comes back,

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Speaker 1: I think is going to be pretty instrumental in how

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Speaker 1: much Spencer Brown gets pushed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is kind of interesting with Spencer Brown

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Speaker 3: as a draft analyst, I remember watching that previous season.

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Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, he didn't get his final season at

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Speaker 3: Northern Iowa because of all the COVID stuff. So I

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Speaker 3: think with Spencer Brown, the fact that he played as

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Speaker 3: a rookie and wasn't like atrocious. He was actually ahead

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Speaker 3: of schedule because six foot eight, barely over three hundred pounds,

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Speaker 3: he kind of looked like a tall tight end out there.

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Speaker 2: And I remember writing in my scouting report.

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Speaker 3: Like this is a two or three year project that

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Speaker 3: might pay off and he could be a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: player because of the nastiness, the lengthy athleticism was through

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Speaker 3: the roof. He had one of the best Pro Day

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Speaker 3: workouts we've ever seen at the right tackle spot. When

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Speaker 3: I saw him on the field and when October or

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Speaker 3: November as a rookie, I was like, man, this guy's

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Speaker 3: ahead of schedule. So he was ahead of schedule playing,

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Speaker 3: But it hasn't been that surprising to me, just because

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Speaker 3: I remember watching him and watching the film that Spencer

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Speaker 3: Brown hasn't been this dominant player from year one, was

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Speaker 3: not pro ready and to everything that you brought up,

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Speaker 3: Chris about getting a fall off season, being healthy, being

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Speaker 3: able to work out, add some more weight to his frame,

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Speaker 3: being able to do that this year, I think that's

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Speaker 3: what Brandon Bean is banking on, being the GM who

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Speaker 3: drafted him and realizes, look, we weren't really even expecting

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Speaker 3: him to be a high caliber player probably until the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing, too, is if you look at

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Speaker 1: the history of some of the draft picks of the

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Speaker 1: Bills over the last several years, it hasn't been year

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Speaker 1: two where they take off more often than not, it's

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Speaker 1: been year three. Devin Singletary is an exception because Frank

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Speaker 1: Gore got hurt and he got thrust into the lineup

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Speaker 1: even more than they anticipated right from the jump. But

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is an example of this. That guy didn't

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Speaker 1: take off until year three when he really kind of

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Speaker 1: hit critical mass in terms of being a playmaking option

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Speaker 1: in this offense, with like nine touchdowns in his third

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Speaker 1: NFL season. So he's an example of that, There's another

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Speaker 1: guy that I'm trying to think of, and his name

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Speaker 1: is completely slipping my mind. Tarren Johnson year three, like

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Speaker 1: he completely took off in twenty twenty. Obviously everybody remembers

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Speaker 1: the one hundred and one yard interception return against the

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Speaker 1: Ravens in the playoffs, but year three was like his

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Speaker 1: takeoff year. He was promising in year one, year two,

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Speaker 1: but in year three, like he was a different player.

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Speaker 1: He was like a top five slot guy in year three.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because nowadays, at least since the

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Speaker 1: new twenty eleven CBA, there's less time on the field

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Speaker 1: with these coaches to practice with these players in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: and half the time that they are practicing, it's not

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Speaker 1: real football because there's no pads and in a couple

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Speaker 1: of the first two phases there's no contact, so it's

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Speaker 1: not football yet. And I think that's lengthened the learning

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Speaker 1: curve for guys to really hit it and really understand

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Speaker 1: the NFL game and instead of that year one to

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Speaker 1: year two jump more often than not, especially with middle

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Speaker 1: round draft choices, seeing them reach critical mass in year

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Speaker 1: three as opposed to year two. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: the hope with Spencer Brown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good points.

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Speaker 3: And how about Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds. I mean

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Speaker 3: they took the big year three jumps early on. Obviously

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Speaker 3: with Allen and Edmunds, we weren't really sure are they

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Speaker 3: the future at those two critical positions, and they certainly

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Speaker 3: were covid I think certainly cannot be kind of like

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Speaker 3: overstated at how important of an impact that they had

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Speaker 3: on a lot of these, you know, twenty twenty, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one, even twenty twenty two draft picks. And I

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Speaker 3: think too this aligns with the Bills general philosophy, and

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Speaker 3: Spencer Brown certainly falls into that you're probably not going

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Speaker 3: to get year three or a jump until year three

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Speaker 3: when you're picking these highly athletic, big, high upside type players.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's been the philosophy where they're able

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Speaker 3: to be a little bit patient because they've had a

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Speaker 3: solid veteran core for a long time. It's not surprising

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Speaker 3: that the big, you know, crazy athletes at whatever position

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Speaker 3: it's been, whether it's Beinn Edmunds or Allen or Spencer

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Speaker 3: Brown or Dawson Knox, it's not just one or two

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Speaker 3: years it's actually in that third season where we see

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Speaker 3: them become, you know, legitimate stars at their respective spots.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. Obl Fan Friday mailbag

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Speaker 1: is open eight oh three oh five fifty open line

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Speaker 1: for you there if you want to jump on one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Mike in Lakeview next. What you got for us? Mike?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Chris, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 6: The two questions I have is if the first one

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Speaker 6: did you hear if they're going to have seats for

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Speaker 6: everybody in the stadium? Are if they're going to be benches?

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Speaker 6: And was with the virtual reality to get to your seat,

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Speaker 6: there's gonna be like twenty thousand less seats. How are

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Speaker 6: they going to be able to let that go this

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Speaker 6: summer with you know, knowing who's going to be in

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Speaker 6: the stadium and who's not going to be in the

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Speaker 6: stadium and get left out by seniority. And then the

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Speaker 6: third question I had was on defense. Do you see

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Speaker 6: them going to the three to four from the four

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Speaker 6: to three with the addition of the piece in the middle,

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Speaker 6: with poona Ford and Dayquar coming back and all that

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Speaker 6: and I'll hang up and listen to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mike, thanks for the call. I mean I

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Speaker 1: would say I'll say this, to my knowledge, it's chairbacks

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Speaker 1: throughout the stadium. There will be to now, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: the capacity is supposed to be somewhere between sixty two

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Speaker 1: and sixty three or sixty and sixty three thousand is

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Speaker 1: the range of total seats. But there are also going

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Speaker 1: to be pavilion areas where people can come in and

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Speaker 1: stand and congregate for the majority for the game. Like

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Speaker 1: I know, it's commonly referred to in other stadiums like

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Speaker 1: Dallas and others as standing room only sections, but it's

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Speaker 1: more of a congregation area where they will allow people

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Speaker 1: to come in and they're restricted to that area for

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Speaker 1: viewing the game. I mean, they can go round and

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Speaker 1: walk wherever they want, but that's going to be their

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Speaker 1: best vantage point to view the game. And they don't

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Speaker 1: technically have a seat, but they can be in the

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Speaker 1: building and I've obviously watched the game and they're just

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Speaker 1: it's like hanging out at a bar watching a game. Basically,

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Speaker 1: in some of those designated pavilion areas, which have full

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Speaker 1: view of the field, you're out amongst the seats, but

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Speaker 1: from some of the renderings you can see they'll be

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Speaker 1: in a standing area. They won't have a seat per

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Speaker 1: se so that will kind of take care of how

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Speaker 1: many thousand I don't know, and I think you're when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about twenty thousand. It's not a twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: seat difference. This stadium has been far fewer than eighty

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Speaker 1: thousand seats for a long time. You're thinking of the

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Speaker 1: capacity crowds in the early nineties when they were breaking

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Speaker 1: attendance records. Since they put the dugout suites in and

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Speaker 1: some other luxury premium seating, the capacity is down to

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Speaker 1: about just over seventy thousand of the general seating seats,

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Speaker 1: so it's only about seven a seven thousand to eight

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Speaker 1: thousand seat difference total, and with those pavilion areas as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, it's probably even less than that in terms

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Speaker 1: of total patrons who can come in the doors. The

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Speaker 1: other question was do you remember the third three four oh,

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Speaker 1: the three four four to three poona Ford is not

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Speaker 1: in Seattle because they changed to a three to four.

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Speaker 1: It's not a fit for him. So him coming in

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Speaker 1: the door here is because he has an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get back into a four to three system, which I

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Speaker 1: think he would agree is a better scheme fit for him. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean he is someone that played that zero technique

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Speaker 3: right up on the center or the one technique right outside,

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Speaker 3: like the outside shoulder, but he is a up the

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Speaker 3: field pass rusher, good run defender from that three technique

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Speaker 3: spot kind of like I think he'll start as the

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Speaker 3: backup to at Oliver. Sean McDermott's not going to change

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Speaker 3: his scheme. I mean, he is retaking the reins, but

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Speaker 3: he's been a four to three guy for a long time.

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Speaker 3: And I think we have to remember Sean McDermott rotates

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Speaker 3: defensive lineman more than any other coach in football. Last year,

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Speaker 3: the Bills had nine defensive lineman play at least thirty

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Speaker 3: percent of the snaps, and Daikwon Jones led the team

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Speaker 3: or led the defensive front players sixty one percent of

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Speaker 3: the time. So there's not any Kyle Williams playing ninety

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Speaker 3: five percent of the snaps. He will keep those guys

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Speaker 3: rotated up front, which I think is a smart or

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Speaker 3: a reason why the Punaford signing was so smart.

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Speaker 4: Read after the draft, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's he's got long arms because his frame is so wide,

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Speaker 1: Like his arm length isn't long, but because he's so

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Speaker 1: wide and broad shouldered, he looks longer. And I think

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Speaker 1: it kind of almost lured the Seahawks into a false

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Speaker 1: sense of security that he would be able to two gap,

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Speaker 1: and he really can't.

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Speaker 4: He's small.

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Speaker 1: He's small and short, and that's what made him not

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Speaker 1: a fit in the Seattle scheme that they were playing.

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Speaker 1: So now that he's in a four to three here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, I think he'll be a much more productive

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Speaker 1: player for the Bills. We have to break here, but

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Speaker 1: more of your phone calls and your tweets on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live about your questions, Bills, draft, league cap, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is. We're here to answer him. Eric head home

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Speaker 1: from NFL dot Com coming up an hour number two.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned here on One Bill's Live. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Christiapasso with you

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Speaker 1: on a Friday here and obl Fan Friday mailbag is open.

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Speaker 1: Any question that you might have hop on the phone

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Speaker 1: lines eight O, three oh five fifty be happy to

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Speaker 1: answer them. Back to the phones, we go into Dennis

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina. What do you got Forst. Dennis?

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Speaker 7: Hey, So first thing, I think next week you talk about, uh,

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Speaker 7: you have some robbing issues that your house, so you

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Speaker 7: that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the birds, the birds I fit I fixed at Dennis.

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Speaker 1: I use I use bird spikes.

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Speaker 7: It worked, Okay. So I'll work for a pest control

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Speaker 7: down in North Carolina and we use a this that

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Speaker 7: you put on your house and it will not when

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Speaker 7: they look at it, they thank that you like a

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Speaker 7: fire in a flame and they go away.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 7: All right, So so maybe you could look into that

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Speaker 7: and Okay, now to the good stuff. Footballs Okay. So one,

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Speaker 7: I'm really excited about the tight end. I called and

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Speaker 7: I told you, uh, ken k would be great. I'm

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Speaker 7: excited about him. And is Buffalo or Brandy being gonna

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Speaker 7: draft more uh or not draft but sign more free agents?

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Speaker 7: Undrafted free agent stays out there, and are they gonna

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Speaker 7: get more money like restructuring more contracts because you know,

867
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 7: like the punafore signing and the other uh, the running

868
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 7: back signings. It's awesome, but we're you know, Brendan Bee's

869
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 7: doing a great job. I'm super excited. I can't I

870
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 7: can't wait to football I'm like stalked about it all right.

871
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, last question? Uh so how can I find

872
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 7: the mail the fan mail bag? Where can I find it?

873
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 7: Sometimes I'll try to find out where I can read

874
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 7: well other people write about and you respond.

875
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: To yeah, so we out. Yeah, we usually just do

876
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: the answers on the air, Dennis. But all the questions

877
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: that sometimes people submit on social media at the Twitter

878
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: handle at one. Bill's live on Twitter, so that's where

879
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: you can find that. But thanks for all the questions.

880
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: We'll try to answer him here one at a time.

881
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for the birds suggestion, by the way, but I

882
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: got that figured out with the bird spikes. They can't

883
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: land where they were trying to nest on my patio.

884
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: But you want to know about free agent signings. I

885
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: don't think you can ever rule that out with Brandon

886
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: Bean because sometimes somebody gets cut somewhere else. It's a player.

887
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: Maybe Brandon's had his eye on and he finds a

888
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: way to make it work and bring somebody in. They

889
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: are pretty tight against the cap though, and they got

890
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: to get their rookie Pool signed. I was checking out

891
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: our good friend Mike Janitti on spot track and he

892
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: had the Bills at about just under five million in

893
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: cap space, and they still got a rookie Pool to sign.

894
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: That's gonna get gobbled up pretty fast, even though the

895
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: Bills were drafting very low in most of the rounds.

896
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: And I know he also likes to have about a

897
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: five million dollar cushion in the regular season. Now, in

898
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: the regular season only the top fifty one salaries count

899
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: towards the cap, so that will change how much. Only

900
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: they know with all their calculations. I'm not doing a

901
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm not doing an accounting ledger for that, but suffice

902
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: it to say they don't have a lot of money

903
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: right now. I think the restructuring for the most part

904
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: is done. I suppose if an unusual opportunity crops up,

905
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: they may go to somebody with their handout and say, hey,

906
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: can you help us. It's gonna mean getting this guy,

907
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: which would probably be like an over the top type

908
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: player if somebody became available. But beyond that, I don't

909
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: know that any major signings coming down the pike just

910
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: because they are so tight on the cap.

911
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think edge rusher if they are a

912
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: little bit unsure, and it seems like Brandon Bean is

913
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: actually more sure than I was expecting that Von Miller

914
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: will be able to be back on the field earlier

915
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: and not into November or you know, even later. Having

916
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: torn that that way, Yeah, he's been talking directly.

917
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: But he kind of indicates, oh, yeah, when we have

918
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Von back, and it's like, oh, really, we're gonna have

919
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Von back. Okay.

920
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: There are some veteran edge rushers who are still available

921
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 3: that seem pretty viable players well into their thirties. Melvin Ingram,

922
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: who's been just a thorn in the Bill's side on

923
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: multiple AFC teams, the Dolphins, the Steelers, the Chiefs, justin Houston.

924
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: Frank Clark is out there as well. The only other

925
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 3: option that I see, and I think what you said

926
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: is spot on in terms of a restructure. I don't

927
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: think that is in the cards for anyone else on

928
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: the Bills roster at this point. An extension of day

929
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: Kwon Jones would probably lower his twenty twenty three cap,

930
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: and I could see that being just kind of an

931
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: inconspicuous middle of the summer deal. He is up there

932
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: in age, but he was so good last season and

933
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 3: so integral to the Bills run stopping efforts. We again

934
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: saw you know how much of an impact he had

935
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: when he was not on the field in that playoff

936
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: loss to the Cincinnati Bengals. If they extended him, then

937
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: that would free up some more space. If they're suddenly

938
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: enamored with Justin Houston and he wants more money, or

939
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: they get news on von Miller's time line being a

940
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: little bit further down the road.

941
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's squeeze in Nick and Buffalo here before the break?

942
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: What do you got for his? Nick?

943
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: Hello?

944
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on Nick? What do you got?

945
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: Thank you?

946
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 8: Listen.

947
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: I'm curious about money that draft choices get.

948
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: What's the amount of first round gets to the seventh round?

949
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 7: Do you have any idea?

950
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: Well, it depends where they're picked in the round. Yeah, Like, well, yeah,

951
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of slotted. So like, for example, Dalton king Kad,

952
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: who was the twenty fifth pick, is not going to

953
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: make the same kind of money as the tenth pick

954
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: in the draft. So it varies pretty significantly from one

955
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: pick one pick to the very next. I mean it's incremental.

956
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: You know, if you're only two picks away from the

957
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: guy in front of you, and those picks like here

958
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: we go. Jalen Carter signed his contract. He was the

959
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: tenth pick in the draft to the Eagles. It was

960
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: a four year deal worth almost twenty two million dollars.

961
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Kincaid's deal is going to be probably in the team somewhere.

962
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be twenty two million dollars. It might

963
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: be four years and seventeen and a half, you know,

964
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. I'm just ballparking. I haven't looked at

965
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: what the salaries were of last year's class, but basically,

966
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: they take last year's class and it increases incrementally at

967
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: a set percentage for everybody in round one, round two,

968
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: round three, round four, round five, and it's obviously a

969
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: sliding scale. The later you're drafted, the less money you're

970
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: gonna make. And I think the only exception in round

971
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: one would be a quarterback. Like, if a quarterback's taken

972
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, the premium position that it is might bump

973
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: his salary a little bit higher than maybe even a

974
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: guy one or two spots in front of him that's

975
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: a non quarterback. That's the only kind of difference that

976
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: you would see out there.

977
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, really quick, squeezing this in on spot Trek Dalton.

978
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: Kincaid's cap hit for twenty twenty three based on being

979
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: the twenty fifth pick two point four million dollars.

980
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: So not big.

981
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it slides down with each pick. And yes

982
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: there is a difference Nick between the first round the

983
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: seventh round. It's pretty big. I don't have the numbers

984
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: in front of me right now, but suffice it to

985
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: say that each round the numbers go down. We have

986
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: to take a break here because when we come back

987
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: in our number two, our good friend from NFL dot Com,

988
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Eric Edholm, is going to join us. He recently put

989
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: out the grades for each of the teams in the

990
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: AFC East with their respective draft class picks he liked

991
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: for those teams picks he didn't like. Chris and I

992
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: will weigh in with our opinions as well. Next here

993
00:49:48,360 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: on One Bill's wat. This One Bill's Live presented by

994
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Calllida Health. All right, Happy Friday, everybody, hour number two.

995
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live, Chris Capasso with you. Please

996
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: to be joined now by NFL dot Com league draft

997
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: writer Eric Edholm, who recently put together draft grades for

998
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: the a f C East. He's kind of doing all

999
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: the divisions quite frankly. You can find them all at

1000
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: NFL Dot. I think the AFC North just went up

1001
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: today if I remember right, But he's kind of making

1002
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: his way through the divisions here and handing out draft grades. Eric,

1003
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: how you doing.

1004
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 8: I'm doing well. Yeah, I just finished my last batch.

1005
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 8: Those should be going up soon here.

1006
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: So it's, as Chris knows, is.

1007
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 8: A pretty good feeling to put the past draft behind

1008
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 8: you start working on the next year's guys.

1009
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Never too soon, right, Yeah, No days off for you

1010
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: guys for sure. With that, there's just way too many

1011
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: people to look at on tape. I don't know how

1012
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: you guys get through them all. There's only three hundred

1013
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: and sixty five days. But let's start with the Bills

1014
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: in the AFC East. For obvious reasons, you gave them

1015
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: an overall B plus grade. I guess my first question

1016
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: to you is looking at their draft class, Eric, because

1017
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: I asked Chris the same question earlier in the show.

1018
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: Is there a pick here that you felt the Bills

1019
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: got their best bang for the bucks so to speak?

1020
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, good question.

1021
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 8: I'd probably go down to their second round choice of

1022
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 8: Cyrus Torrance, who I think you know, at least we'll

1023
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 8: be in the mix to possibly.

1024
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: Start it at right guard.

1025
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 8: And you know, I mean considering there was a time

1026
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 8: when a lot of us looked at the first round

1027
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 8: talents and thought there aren't a lot of them, and

1028
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 8: so you're gonna end up putting second round talents at

1029
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 8: the end of round one in your mock drafts and

1030
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 8: things like that. And I think I had a couple

1031
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 8: with Osirius Torrents, you know, on the back end, maybe

1032
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 8: even to the bills for that matter. So you know,

1033
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 8: I figured he'd probably goes somewhere between twenty five and

1034
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 8: forty five for them to get him. You know, in

1035
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 8: the latter fifties there at a need of position. I

1036
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 8: know it probably goes a little bit against what they

1037
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 8: typically do with offensive lineman, but that to me says

1038
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 8: they probably had a really big grade on him and

1039
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 8: felt like, you know, this is a player who could

1040
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 8: step right in for him.

1041
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 4: And I loved him at.

1042
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 8: The Sea Bowl practices and he played well after coming

1043
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 8: from Louisiana and transferring to Florida.

1044
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: I just there were so few questions with him.

1045
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 8: I felt like it was it was gonna be a

1046
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 8: good pick no matter who he went to.

1047
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: But at that landing spot, I really liked it all right.

1048
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 3: Moving to the next pick, Dorian Williams, the linebacker from Tulane.

1049
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: He's been a lightning rod in Western New York. From

1050
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: some comments that Brandon Bean, the GM said right after

1051
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: the draft, he similarly sized to Terrell Bernard, the third

1052
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 3: round pick last year that didn't see the field very much.

1053
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: Without me telling what I think about him, I want

1054
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: to hear your honest opinion how you evaluated him.

1055
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 2: Did you think it was too early too late?

1056
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: Do you think he can play and start and not

1057
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: be a liability, be a good player in his first season?

1058
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I understand that he could be a

1059
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 8: maybe a polarizing player in some respects, but athletically speaking,

1060
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 8: you really don't have any questions. I know the frame

1061
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 8: is a little bit on the smaller size, you know what,

1062
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 8: six ' one, about two hundred and thirty pounds, but

1063
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 8: really long wingspan and I think will help them kind

1064
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 8: of disengage from blocks. And obviously you saw the testing numbers.

1065
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 8: I think pretty darn good across the board. Maybe the

1066
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 8: jumps could have been a little bi bigger, but you know,

1067
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 8: if you run sub four or five as a linebacker,

1068
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 8: that to me kind of fits the modern you know

1069
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 8: type cast for that position. So you know, it's gonna

1070
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 8: be fascinating to see what they do to replace Edmonds

1071
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 8: and you know, figure out how they're going to deploy

1072
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 8: their linebackers and whether Bernard has an edge having a

1073
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 8: year's worth of experience, or whether somebody like Williams can

1074
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 8: come in. But you know, I I mean that that

1075
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 8: Cotton Bowl win I thought was a big game for him.

1076
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 8: You know, I felt like he showed a little bit

1077
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 8: more in coverage. He's obviously got the ability to get

1078
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 8: into the backfield and knife in there and make some

1079
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 8: plays as well track down guys from behind. So I

1080
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 8: just feel like that plus some solid character grades and

1081
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 8: a really good special teams background, you know, to me,

1082
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 8: it made a lot of sense at that position in

1083
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 8: the draft. I thought, you know, third round, fourth round

1084
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 8: was a very good place to grab him.

1085
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: So the day three picks for the Bills, Eric it's Shorter,

1086
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: Broker and Austin. Shorter looks like you know, in round five,

1087
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: low risk, high reward, potentially Broker, probably in the guard mix,

1088
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: even though he played some tackle too at Old Miss.

1089
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Short Arms, and then Austin seems to fit the prototype

1090
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: of what the Bills looked for in a corner long player.

1091
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: Taller has zone experience, So maybe just rifle through the

1092
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: day three guys and maybe who you liked there.

1093
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I thought justin Shorter.

1094
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 8: You know, obviously he was a highly recruited player out

1095
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 8: of high school. Went to Penn State, didn't you know,

1096
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 8: get enough time there, went to Florida.

1097
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: I think he always left.

1098
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 8: You wanting a little bit more when you watched him,

1099
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 8: and there was a need for you know, a screaming

1100
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 8: need for Anthony. Were just going to have a number

1101
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 8: one receiver last year he was it by default. But

1102
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 8: the physical tools are there, you know, in an offense

1103
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 8: like this, where there are so many mouths to feed,

1104
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 8: and you know obviously they're they're a pass heavy team,

1105
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 8: it makes a lot of sense where he could be

1106
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 8: a you know, a low volume, high yield kind of player.

1107
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 8: I'm not, you know, sort of like Gabe Davis in

1108
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 8: that respect. So, you know, I think that that was

1109
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 8: a pretty smart value at that point, given with his

1110
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 8: physical traits. You know, as you mentioned, I think Broker's

1111
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 8: probably you know, an interior guy. He has a little

1112
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 8: bit experience to tackle, so there's at least a way

1113
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 8: for him to make the roster. I think coming out

1114
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 8: of training camp you mentioned with Austin, I think the

1115
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 8: length and the playmaking DNA, if you will, is certainly

1116
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 8: something that that makes them attractive at that phase of

1117
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 8: the draft. And you know DB's I mean, safety wasn't

1118
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 8: quite as deep, but certainly corner was this year. And

1119
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 8: so I thought some really interesting talents both slipped down

1120
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 8: to Day three at that position, and also a couple

1121
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 8: undrafted guys, So I thought, we're certainly going to be picked.

1122
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think obviously if he can contribute, meaning Austin,

1123
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 8: if he can contribute on special teams, that also gives

1124
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 8: you another, you know, reason not to cut him or

1125
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 8: not try to stash him on the practice squad and

1126
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 8: leave him exposed. But yeah, I mean again there was

1127
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 8: they just seemed to be pretty good purpose and and

1128
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 8: value with all their picks. I thought maybe a running

1129
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 8: back and a defensive tackle could be on the menu.

1130
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 8: What do they do right after the draft? They signed

1131
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 8: a couple of veterans at those positions. So that's how

1132
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 8: you know your your scouting is in sync. Right, We

1133
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 8: didn't check off these positions let's let's go get the veterans.

1134
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: We like it though, spots.

1135
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: All right, let's move to the Patriots because they're trying

1136
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: to keep pacing this suddenly really competitive AFC East.

1137
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you've been doing this for a long time.

1138
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: With the draft, Eric, you almost have to accept that

1139
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: the Patriots are gonna do some strange things. I see

1140
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: that you gave them a B minus, the second best

1141
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: grade in the AFC East. Just a quick summary, maybe

1142
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 3: a few picks that you really liked that the Patriots

1143
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: made in this draft, and then some of those head

1144
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: scratchers because it was a big class like it normally is.

1145
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some that were pretty surprising.

1146
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: And it's tough with these grades.

1147
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 8: It's gonna end up kind of being biased towards teams

1148
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 8: with more selections, fairly or not, that's kind of the way.

1149
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: It ends up being.

1150
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 8: More cracks at the at the plate or whatever. But

1151
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 8: Christian Gonzalez I thought was a really good pick and

1152
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 8: smart they trade down and get them there. Keon White

1153
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 8: kind of a classic Patriots pick, you know, high floor,

1154
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 8: low ceiling. Marte Mapu their third rounder looks a lot

1155
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 8: like Kyle Dugar. So we were on track for a

1156
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 8: pretty normal draft, and then it took a little left

1157
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 8: turn with a kicker. They traded up for a three

1158
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 8: theoretically three interior offensive lineman, although I guess you know,

1159
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 8: they could try City soal kid from Eastern Michigan outside,

1160
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 8: and then it kind of swung back towards promising. I

1161
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 8: thought the you know, Jamario Douglas and Kayshawn Butte were

1162
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 8: interesting picks in round six, so you know, and I

1163
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 8: think they did get the best punter in the draft.

1164
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 8: I'm not as sure about the kicker, but some good

1165
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 8: value early, some head scratchers in the middle, some potential

1166
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 8: lottery tickets late, and all in all, I thought I

1167
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 8: liked it more than I.

1168
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 4: Didn't like it. It is the best way to say it,

1169
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 4: I guess.

1170
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Patriots have never been good about drafting receivers high,

1171
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: so they might as well wait later anyway, so if

1172
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: they miss again, it's not as catastrophic. I want to

1173
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: jump down to the Dolphins. As we know, they didn't

1174
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: have a lot to work with after losing a first

1175
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: round pick as punishment from the league, and then the

1176
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: other one given away in the trade for Chubb to Denver,

1177
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: So you know, they didn't have a lot to work

1178
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: work with. How surprised were you that they waited until

1179
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: round seven to fortify their offensive line ranks for a

1180
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: quarterback who I think we can all safely argue might

1181
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: just be one concussion away for going away for a

1182
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: long time, if not forever.

1183
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a really interesting development obviously. You know,

1184
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 8: they they've they've put resources in there with Tron Armstead,

1185
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 8: and you know, they've they've used the draft to try

1186
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 8: to help that position out as well. But I thought

1187
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 8: they might keep kind of carpet bombing it and try

1188
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 8: to get as many bodies there as possible. I I

1189
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 8: know that, you know, certainly there they're undrafted. Pre agent

1190
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 8: class was made up of a number of tackle guard

1191
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 8: you know, I think even one center, I mean several

1192
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 8: players of that position.

1193
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: So they're just doing it in a little different way.

1194
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 8: But I hear you, man, I I that did concern

1195
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 8: me a little bit, not that Cam Smith can't help them,

1196
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 8: and especially of Xavian Howard's you know, maybe one year

1197
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 8: from from from being off the roster, So you know,

1198
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 8: I can see the reason behind that pick, and you know,

1199
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 8: certainly there are other selections too. You think to yourself, Okay, right,

1200
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 8: they could have used the tight end certainly a speedback

1201
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 8: as well, but that was probably the most concerning element

1202
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 8: of it.

1203
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 4: Even if I'm not a big you have.

1204
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 8: To draft this position and otherwise you're going to get

1205
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 8: a bad grade. I don't want to take that stance,

1206
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 8: but in extreme cases, like you said, that's kind of

1207
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 8: the deal.

1208
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes.

1209
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: One more for me on the Jets, the only other

1210
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: AFC team or AFC East team.

1211
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: That we haven't talked about.

1212
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Joe Tipman and Carter Warren kind of

1213
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: doing the opposite of what the paid or of what

1214
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: the Dolphins did to kind of fortify the offensive line

1215
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 3: in the middle of the draft, second and third round.

1216
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: What was your thought on Will McDonald at fifteen. Did

1217
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: you like that as just doubling down on the eddresser

1218
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 3: spot after picking Jermaine Johnson last year or were you

1219
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: kind of like me that thought This is almost pointing

1220
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 3: to them not being happy with what they got from

1221
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: Jermaine Johnson and having to kind of dip in to

1222
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: that well again at that same position.

1223
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1224
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously there's a whirl where both of them

1225
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 8: can be on the field at the same time, but

1226
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 8: it's hard not to think.

1227
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: That a little bit.

1228
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 8: And all the Jets' rookies, I mean, they had a

1229
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 8: brilliant class right offensive and rookie and defensive rookies.

1230
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: Of the year. You know, Breze Hall might have won

1231
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 4: it had he stayed healthy.

1232
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 8: So you know, they had three instant impact guys and

1233
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 8: a few others who really contributed. Johnson would be the

1234
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 8: one who would rate us a little bit of a

1235
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 8: disappointment after year one. I don't think they've reached that point,

1236
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 8: but certainly it felt to me like when Pittsburgh leapfrogged them,

1237
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 8: New England traded down three spots, they picked Broderick Jones

1238
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 8: that certainly could have been their guy. You know, they obviously,

1239
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 8: as you said, they took Warren the tackle in round four,

1240
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 8: but Jones felt like a player that New York had

1241
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 8: done a lot of work on and maybe thought they

1242
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 8: could still get even if New England stayed at fourteen.

1243
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: So you know that didn't work out. You've got to

1244
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 4: have a plan. B.

1245
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 8: Pass rush was something I thought they probably had to address.

1246
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 8: But I mean I almost would have liked Tipman more

1247
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 8: at fifteen than McDonald. I just still have my concerns

1248
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 8: about that size of a rusher, you know, even if

1249
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 8: he does have length and great get off and all

1250
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 8: that stuff, and did play out a position in college,

1251
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 8: you know, kind of more in the trash than you'd

1252
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 8: like to see for a guy with his speed. But

1253
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 8: even still, I did feel like it was a reach

1254
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 8: and did feel like, even in this draft class where

1255
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 8: you may not be able to get to to fifteen

1256
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 8: or sixteen first rounders, that one was a little bit

1257
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 8: of a stretch for me. But they probably couldn't swing

1258
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 8: a trade and just said, all right, we like this guy,

1259
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 8: why aren't we taking him here? So, you know, to

1260
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 8: each their own, I mean, but that's just how I felt.

1261
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, little it smelled a little bit like a panic

1262
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: button push kind of thing, like, oh my gosh, Steelers

1263
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: are going up. Oh my gosh, they took our guy.

1264
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, who do we pick? Like it was,

1265
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: It's that's what it felt like.

1266
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1267
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, round five they get a ban of Canada. The

1268
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: running back from Pitt who if you watch his tape,

1269
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: you love him. He's put together, you know, I mean,

1270
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: he's not super tall, he's you know, he's compact, strong,

1271
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: muscular frame, had some fumble issues here and there at times,

1272
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: doesn't for a guy that's got the frame that he has. Eric,

1273
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: I was surprised that he went down on first contact

1274
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: as much as he did. At times. It surprised me

1275
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: a little. I understand he's probably you know, insurance in

1276
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: case breeze. Hall's not ready right at the start of

1277
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: the season, but like, give me kind of a thumbnail

1278
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: sketch on him. I don't mind where they took him,

1279
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: but he's He's not a perfect prospect by any means, right.

1280
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 8: I think I agree with you completely on that one.

1281
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 8: I mean, I really liked this. It's hard not to

1282
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 8: like a tape of a guy who could rip off

1283
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 8: long runs and run with some spirit like he does.

1284
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 8: And you know, I think they're in a situation where

1285
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 8: they've spent some pretty good draft capital now at running

1286
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 8: back with correct me if I'm wrong.

1287
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 4: Carter in Hall were both second rounders, so you know,

1288
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 4: and there's questions with both.

1289
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 8: I mean, Hall's coming off the ACL Carter seemed to

1290
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 8: take a little bit of a step backward last year.

1291
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 8: Some of it was roll, some of it was you know,

1292
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 8: just maybe scheme a little bit, but or just usage

1293
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 8: I guess how they employed him, but but I think

1294
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 8: they needed a little insurance there, and it's nice to

1295
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 8: be able to get that kind of talent in round five.

1296
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 4: But you're right, I mean, for a guy.

1297
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 8: Who you know, seemed to seeholes open before they they did,

1298
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 8: they did, you know, to find creases and run through

1299
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 8: them and make some big plays. You'd like to see

1300
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 8: someone a little better contact balance like that. But I

1301
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 8: still was a fan. I thought he was. He's a

1302
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 8: good complimentary back and might end up you know, contributing

1303
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 8: early if Hall's still kind of recovering or they don't

1304
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 8: think he can can you know, handle the workload. I

1305
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 8: just can't wait to see how the schedule lines up,

1306
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 8: because we have a couple of rookies like that around

1307
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 8: the league who are you know, maybe not first or

1308
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 8: second round draft picks who may end up having a

1309
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 8: play because of suspensions or injuries or other factors, and

1310
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 8: you know he might be on that short list.

1311
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: All right, last one for me, Eric, I know you're

1312
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: a Chicago guy, so I got to ask, are you

1313
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: were you fine with them passing on Jalen Carter and

1314
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: picking Darnell Wright in the first round.

1315
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1316
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 8: Right, wasn't my favorite offensive lineman in this class, but

1317
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 8: I also agreed with the assessment that at his best,

1318
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 8: he looks like he could be the best out of

1319
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 8: this group, you know. I mean there were some games

1320
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 8: that really stood out, others not so much. And you wonder,

1321
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 8: you know, does he need to be pushed a little bit?

1322
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 8: Is he always maximizing his talent? I would argue no,

1323
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 8: but I could see it. I got it, and I

1324
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 8: think you know, you heard Pete Carroll the other day,

1325
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 8: and the Seahawks were a big Jalen Carter team. Everybody

1326
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 8: thought five was where it started, you know, ten was

1327
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 8: where it ended with the Eagles.

1328
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 4: That was kind of the range for him. And you

1329
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 4: heard Carol kind of say.

1330
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 8: We were comfortable with who he was, meaning they did

1331
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 8: the evaluation on Jalen Carter, and as how I read

1332
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 8: it was maybe didn't feel entirely comfortable. We haven't heard

1333
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 8: as much from the Bears about that pick. I don't

1334
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 8: think maybe they did. I didn't see it, but I

1335
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 8: imagine there were a few teams that felt that way.

1336
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 8: To me, Philly is perfectly built for Jalen Carter. If

1337
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 8: you miss on him, it's not a big deal. But yeah,

1338
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 8: well that that decision will be viewed for a long

1339
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 8: time in hindsight.

1340
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: The last guy I wanted to ask you about Eric

1341
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: was devon a chain. Obviously one of the fastest running

1342
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: backs in the entire class, but only five to eight

1343
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: and one eighty eight and he enters a crowded backfield

1344
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: in Miami. I know that McDaniel's not shy about cycling

1345
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: guys through, but is this guy a return man as

1346
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: a rookie and then gets little bits and pieces of

1347
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: action here and there, or does McDaniel maybe split him

1348
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: out and get him in space, Like is he just

1349
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: kind of like a new toy and that'll be used

1350
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: here and there.

1351
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 8: I could see that the toy usage at first. I

1352
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 8: think they definitely want to get that speed on the field.

1353
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 8: I mean, you have Raheem Moster, who's you know, been

1354
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 8: a good warrior for the Shanahan system, whether it's Sam

1355
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 8: go or here or in Miami, I should say Jeff Wilson,

1356
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 8: same thing, right, Two guys who know the uh, know

1357
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 8: the drill, know the expectations, understand they're going to be

1358
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 8: in a timeshare in that position, and here comes a

1359
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 8: chain the you know, arguably the fastest guy in college

1360
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 8: football last year at least play speed, and you know,

1361
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 8: it's hard not to get excited about that big playability.

1362
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 8: They have had some issues at that at that backfield,

1363
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 8: and they had four guys and it was never clear

1364
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 8: maybe sometimes who the number one truly was or what

1365
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 8: they felt about some of the reserves.

1366
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna work out a nice rotation.

1367
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 8: They did it in San Francisco where they had three

1368
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 8: guys where they.

1369
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 4: Were healthy, all working together.

1370
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 8: Uh, and I think a chain is going to have

1371
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, look, he if you watch the

1372
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 8: LSU game, he was a possessed guy running inside too,

1373
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 8: not just these outside pitches and you know, schemed up

1374
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 8: touches and whatnot.

1375
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he gonna do it in the NFL

1376
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 4: that much.

1377
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 8: Probably not, but you know, draws, screens, you know, outside

1378
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 8: zone and certainly all that stuff has to be in

1379
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 8: play with him. And yeah, maybe eight to twelve touches

1380
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 8: the game. He could give you some firepower.

1381
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: Eric, Thanks very much for taking the time here on

1382
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: a Friday. We appreciate it. Enjoy your Cinco de Mayo

1383
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: and we'll catch up with you down the line.

1384
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: Thanks Eric, all right, boys, have a great weekend. S.

1385
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Eric head home from NFL dot Com. There,

1386
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: senior draft analyst putting together the division by division grades,

1387
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: and just so you know how it all shook you out,

1388
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: the Bills were a B plus from Eric, highest grade

1389
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: in the division, followed by Patriots B minus, C plus

1390
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: for the Jets, and a C minus for Miami. I mean, look,

1391
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: a Chane makes a fast team faster, So I understand it.

1392
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: I just I'm thinking, come hell or high water, I'm

1393
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: getting an offensive tackle for my quarterback who is maybe

1394
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: one cushion concussion away from his career ending. Did you

1395
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: see the press conference when to admitted he contemplated retirement

1396
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 1: last ye Well yeah, but I mean even this offseason

1397
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: he talked to his family again, like, eh, should I

1398
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: hang it up? After? You know? Two three concussions? As

1399
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: far as Bills fans are concerned, I know the Dolphins

1400
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: only documented two. The Week three thing was number three

1401
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: for me as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not

1402
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: even a doctor, but they go. I understand the corner pick.

1403
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: Cam Smith totally fine with it. I actually like him

1404
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot as a player. Xavier and Howard fought through

1405
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: a groin injury for more than half the season. He's

1406
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: kind of getting long in the tooth. You know. Byron

1407
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: Jones is out the door or whatever. He's never gonna play.

1408
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. And then the guys that

1409
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: they've drafted in recent years. Cater Co, who great undrafted

1410
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: prospect playing nickel for them last year, but Nick need

1411
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: him isn't anything to write home about. He's kind of

1412
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: like a reserve guy. And for my money, Noah Igbinogaane

1413
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: was a miss in round one a few years ago.

1414
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: So Cam Smith in round two. I mean, you could

1415
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: do a lot worse than him. I thought he was

1416
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: a good I thought he was a good prospect. I

1417
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: think he will help them there. And I mean he's

1418
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: got a good shot to be their third outside guy,

1419
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: like somebody gets hurt on the outside. He's the first

1420
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: guy off the bench. But a chain puzzled me a

1421
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: little bit. It seemed like a luxury pick.

1422
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

1423
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: And I liked all those three picks before the offensive

1424
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 3: lineman Elijah Higgins, the tight end wide receiver convert.

1425
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: He's big, he's good after the catch.

1426
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 3: It's interesting and it ties back to our conversation at

1427
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 3: the outside of the show about the forty nine ers.

1428
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 3: If there's one thing that has held the forty nine

1429
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: ers back, it has been the health of their quarterbacks.

1430
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 3: And Jimmy Garoppolo and Tua, I think you would put

1431
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 3: him in a similar category in terms of mobility and

1432
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: size and inability to avoid hits inside the pocket or

1433
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:40,839
Speaker 3: just outside the pocket.

1434
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: It felt they both get hurt exactly.

1435
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: And it felt like to me that Mike McDaniel, having

1436
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 3: experience at firsthand in San Francisco, he should know better

1437
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: than almost any Earn your lesson, learn your lesson and say, look,

1438
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: we have the talent at receiver and tight end and

1439
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: we can throw any running back in the backfield and

1440
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: they're going to produce in this zone blocking scheme. But

1441
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: if our quarterback goes down, it ultimately sunk the Dolphins season.

1442
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 3: Last year, I liked the picks, but why I kind

1443
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: of gave them a lower grade was because of what

1444
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: you just pointed at and what Eric talked about. They

1445
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: should have addressed offensive line earlier than they did. The

1446
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 3: seventh rounder, Ryan Hayes is not someone that's going to

1447
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 3: play right away. He's a developmental guy, just It shows

1448
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: that it's not always just about picking the players. You

1449
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 3: have to prioritize need positions and the valuable positions. An

1450
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 3: offensive line makes the running backs go. And they ultimately

1451
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: picked a running back ahead of the offensive lineman.

1452
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean Tua was the highest rated passer

1453
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: in the league when he was healthy, and the Dolphins

1454
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: point scoring potential went down precipitously when he was out

1455
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: of the lineup. They averaged just over twenty four points

1456
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,520
Speaker 1: per game with Tua in the lineup, they averaged sixteen

1457
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 1: with him out of the lineup. That's an eight point

1458
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: swing too, And that's the difference between winning and losing

1459
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: football games in this league where over three quarters of

1460
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: the games are decided by seven points or less. I mean,

1461
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: that's a huge swing, it is, And so you got

1462
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: to do everything in your path to keep him on

1463
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: the field. And a five foot eight, one hundred and

1464
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: eighty eight pound back whose speed is his biggest calling card,

1465
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: is not going to be in there on third downs

1466
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: to pick up a blitz. No, he's gonna get run over.

1467
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: Guy's gonna get steamrolled. So that's why the pick was

1468
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: so puzzling to me. I get the playmaking ability, and sure,

1469
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: if he's their full time return man on puns and kicks, okay,

1470
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: they're getting value out of him there, But is he

1471
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: touching the ball more than five times a game on

1472
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: offense with Mostard and Jeff Wilson there, I don't know

1473
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: if he is.

1474
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 3: What's concerning to me too about the Dolphins is toront Armstet,

1475
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: who they traded for left tackle.

1476
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: From the Saints. Very on one leg last I was

1477
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: gonna say he's an elite tackle.

1478
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: He almost didn't play in the playoff game against Buffalo

1479
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: because he was so injured.

1480
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: In and Austin Jackson's a bust.

1481
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: So those are their two starting offensive linemen.

1482
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: They don't have a project ye type that feels like, hey,

1483
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: by year two or year three, he can be an

1484
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: All Pro or Pro Bowl type player. To then just ignore,

1485
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: essentially ignore offensive line in the entire draft, not pick

1486
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: one until round seven, I think was on kind of

1487
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: a negligent way to attack the draft. And when you

1488
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: already have Tyreek Hill and you have Raheem Mostered and

1489
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: Jeff Wilson and Jalen Wattall, you have enough speed. You

1490
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: proved like you just mentioned twenty seven points a game

1491
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: or twenty four points a game. Being in that range

1492
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: is enough to win a lot of football games. It

1493
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: was the classic example of a team just not I

1494
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 3: iding the right positional value in the draft.

1495
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: Ye. It just it really puzzled me because I'm like,

1496
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: two is your ticket to winning football games, because if

1497
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 1: you can keep him up right, he is the catalyst

1498
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: of the offense you got. But if he gets another concussion,

1499
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be his third concussion in less than a

1500
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: calendar year. If it happens before you know, weeks five,

1501
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: and that's not good because they get successively worse if

1502
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: they're in close proximity and the effects are longer lasting.

1503
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: And as I said, the guy talked last said, this offseason,

1504
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: I sat down with my family and we talked and

1505
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: contemplated retirement. He knows damage that's been done to his

1506
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: brain already. He gets another one early in this season,

1507
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: he may not play the rest of this year and

1508
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: or ever.

1509
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: Again avoiding offensive line in the draft until round seven.

1510
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 3: If next year too gets hurt, there will be a

1511
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 3: built in excuse for Mike McDaniel for their GM Chris Kers,

1512
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: Oh hey, you're leaving the NFL in passer rating quarterback

1513
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: got hurt. Again, nothing you could do, but in reality,

1514
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 3: it's no, you could have picked an offensive lineman. You

1515
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 3: could have signed one in free agency, not trot out,

1516
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: you know, into his thirties, toront Armstead, who's had injury

1517
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 3: problems in Austin Jackson, a former first round pick that

1518
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: has been in pretty big bust and not a good

1519
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: pass protector of liability in that regard.

1520
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: So that's where injuries.

1521
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: Aren't always just hey, you know, a built in excuse

1522
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 3: if you're not addressing those need positions, and then it

1523
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 3: ultimately falls on to you if one of those players

1524
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 3: does get hurt that you've seen get hurt in the past.

1525
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even their guard leam Miikenberg was battling

1526
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: injuries all last year too. That guy has a tough

1527
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: time staying healthy. I mean, I know he was a

1528
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: second round pick, he's got some talent, but that guy

1529
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: can't stay on the field either, and they're backups behind

1530
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: their starters. Well, it's it's the case for a lot

1531
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: of teams around the league because there just aren't enough

1532
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: linemen to go around. Quality lineman anyway. But that's another

1533
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: guy with a problem. So now you've got your left

1534
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: tackle and your left guard who can't stay healthy, mostly

1535
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: Armstead because he's old, Eikenberg because he's got a history

1536
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: of injuries, and that just compromises the whole lot. Also,

1537
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: so no guards, no centers, and no tackle until round seven.

1538
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: It baffled me. It baffled me. We got to take

1539
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: a break here when we get back. More of your

1540
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: questions from the OBL Friday fan mail bag on the

1541
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. But if you have a question in mind,

1542
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: you want to hop on the phone lines, there's an

1543
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: open line for you at eight h three oh five

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the

1545
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: number to get on board. Chris and Chris back in

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: a second Here on one Bill's Live, presented by co

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: Lout of help. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 9: Back here on one Bills, Chris Brown, Chris trapass it

1549
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 9: with you on a Friday. OBL fan mailbag is open

1550
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 9: and we're gonna dive into that now. First question on

1551
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 9: the board comes from Bill, who says, looks like Brandon

1552
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 9: Bean is back in complete control. Do you think the

1553
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 9: loss of Joe Shane was bigger than all of us realized?

1554
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 9: Like losing Brian Dable on offense was the adjustment just

1555
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 9: more under the radar. Thanks and have a great day.

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01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you're getting a Bill with respect

1557
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: to Bean being back in control. I don't think he

1558
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 1: ever lost control. He's the GM. I think he valued

1559
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: Joe Shane's opinion, otherwise he wouldn't have hired him as

1560
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: an assistant GM in the first place. I think he

1561
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: thinks a lot of him as a scout and a

1562
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: personnel man, you know. And Joe's moved on because the

1563
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: success he had here with Brandon Bean led to the

1564
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: opportunity that he got with the Giants. But I don't

1565
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: think you put the you credit the draft class success

1566
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: to Joe Shane, you credited to Brandon Been So I'm

1567
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure what you're getting at there.

1568
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: Losing Brian Dable on offense was the adjustment, just more

1569
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: under the radar. I mean, the offense was every bit

1570
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: of successful production wise under Can Dorsey last season, and

1571
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: I would expect Dorset to be an even better play

1572
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: caller this year. So I don't know. I'm not really

1573
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: sure where Bill's coming from.

1574
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the Bills to lose assistant gms in

1575
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 3: back to back years, Dan Morgan, Yeah, and then Joe Shane.

1576
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: It's not like the Bills have dropped off and become

1577
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 3: like a wild card contender barely winning you know, half

1578
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: of their games. They've maintained that elite level status in

1579
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 3: the AFC conference. Like having lost those two key pieces,

1580
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: they still have, you know, Malik Boyd and Terrence Gray.

1581
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 3: Brian Gain who was a GM for a season in Houston.

1582
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: An assistant GM in his past as well.

1583
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they still have a lot of the Lake

1584
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 3: Dawson higher level, Yes, higher level executives got that are

1585
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: very well versed in personnel on the draft side and

1586
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 3: on the veteran side. That they've been able to withstand

1587
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: losing some of those key guys and again been a

1588
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 3: double digit, you know, regular season win team throughout from.

1589
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: One Bill to another. This Bill Bill t says Bills

1590
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: open at home or on the road. Is it a

1591
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon game or a prime time I've already stated

1592
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: what I think is a tailor made Week one game

1593
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: that the NFL will have. I do think the Bills

1594
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: will be in prime time in Week one. Tell me

1595
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: what you think of this. Chris Bills at Jets Sunday

1596
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: night like one.

1597
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that because of the Aaron Rodgers.

1598
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: In terms of Homer away, They've been at home two

1599
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 3: of the last three years, obviously on the road last year.

1600
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: It's hard to really pinpoint.

1601
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: What that would be.

1602
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: That does kind of feel like a Sunday night Chris

1603
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: collins Worth type game.

1604
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just division games are usually jammed at the

1605
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: front and back of the schedules. Anyway, this is a

1606
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: layup for the league to just get kick the Aaron Rodgers.

1607
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: You know, circus off with a bang. MetLife Stadium will

1608
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: be in a froth, and you know, Jets fans might

1609
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: be among the most annoying this offseason since this trade

1610
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: has happened, because they're ready to crown themselves division champs.

1611
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: I even see some writers out there out of New

1612
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 1: York saying the Bills aren't even gonna make the playoffs.

1613
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: Keep it coming, That's all I got to say. Keep

1614
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: all of that coming. I love all of it. You

1615
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: want the hype, you can have it, Take it all

1616
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: because I love the Bills laying in the weeds here.

1617
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: Love it.

1618
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 3: What's so interesting about that idea about Aaron Rodgers week one,

1619
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 3: to not have like a layup game where they should

1620
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 3: be favored to win, to have a big AFC East

1621
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 3: game against the team that has won the AFC East

1622
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 3: last three years. It is such a wide range of

1623
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 3: outcomes where if the Jets win that game, then there

1624
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 3: will be like the They'll get pumped up even more,

1625
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 3: the New York Daily News will have some crazy cover

1626
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 3: on the back pages. But if they lose, then you

1627
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 3: could start to see the media circus to say, hey,

1628
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 3: look like Aaron Rodgers will probably win some games here,

1629
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 3: but if he can't even beat.

1630
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 2: The Bills in Week one, like what were the Jets doing?

1631
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 3: So that media is so kind of fickle on either

1632
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: side to give the Jets a huge test out of

1633
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 3: the gate, which certainly would be facing the Bills.

1634
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: I really like that idea.

1635
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the air of curiosity for Rogers with

1636
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: the Jets will be at its peak, yes, heading into

1637
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: Week one, So why not feast on that, you know,

1638
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: with your television partners and put him in prime time.

1639
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a Sunday night or a Monday night

1640
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: road game. I think I still think the kickoff game

1641
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: is going to be Chiefs Eagles because they do play

1642
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: each other, it's a Super Bowl rematch, it's in Kansas City.

1643
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. You can recognize the champs all

1644
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: over again, you know, on the kickoff game. That makes

1645
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. I don't know if

1646
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: it's a lock, but it seems.

1647
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 3: Too They could play right right, I mean, angles I

1648
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 3: could see because of like the rivalry that's kind of

1649
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 3: started the tray.

1650
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 4: That's fair.

1651
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: But I know in recent years when they've had the

1652
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: chance to reboot the Super Bowl, they've done that at times.

1653
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: They didn't do it when Tampa won because that was

1654
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: Bucks Bucks Cowboys in Tampa.

1655
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: And Cowboys are gonna try and think it will be

1656
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.

1657
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: But yes, I think the Bengals are a candidate as well,

1658
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: in addition to the Eagles. Andrew asks on the mail bag,

1659
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: I love the fact that the Jets are getting all

1660
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: the attention this season. Takes a load off the Bills. Yep,

1661
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 1: we're just talking about that. Now the Bills can go

1662
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: out and play their game. Question, why is Frank Clark

1663
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: still available on the free agent market? Shure the Bills

1664
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: pick him up only if he's cheap enough. I think

1665
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: that could be part of the issue. You know, maybe

1666
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: Frank Clark doesn't want to go for cheap, but teams

1667
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: are running out of money here too. The Bills couldn't

1668
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: give him a lot of money even if they wanted to.

1669
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: That's number one, number two, And you can tell me

1670
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: what you think of this, Chris. I think there's an

1671
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: injury history there that's starting to become a concern now

1672
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: that he's on the wrong side of thirty. If you remember,

1673
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: he missed playoff games because of a groin injury just

1674
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: last year, and he was not the same player. And

1675
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: I know that personnel executives do recon on this. How

1676
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: much does Frank Clark take care of himself? Does he

1677
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,879
Speaker 1: do preventative maintenance or is he just a gifted athlete

1678
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: that has just taking care of his body for granted,

1679
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: And now that he's on the wrong side of thirty,

1680
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: those injuries are cropping up all the more teams will

1681
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: try to find out how diligent is this guy about

1682
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 1: taking care of his body, because once you're on the

1683
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty, if you're not doing that, you're

1684
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be in the league very much longer.

1685
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's probably what the Bills are doing right now,

1686
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 3: or they probably already have done that. I'm sure they

1687
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 3: have those different type of scouting reports about the preventative

1688
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 3: measures that these or the recovery measures that a lot

1689
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 3: of these veterans are making. We are kind of at

1690
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 3: like an impasse though, where someone like a Frank Clark

1691
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: or a Melvin Ingram or a Justin Houston who were

1692
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 3: once high caliber guys in their primes feel like they

1693
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 3: still deserve five six seven eight million a year. In

1694
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: terms of contenders, the Bills aren't the only team that

1695
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 3: don't have a ton of money, so there's probably not

1696
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 3: major offers on the table. Usually June, maybe close to

1697
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 3: training camp, maybe even into training camp, the realization hits

1698
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: for those veterans that hey, I'm not going to sign

1699
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 3: for seven million and I'll just try to win a

1700
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So I think if we do see anything

1701
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 3: along those lines with a veteran at the edge rusher

1702
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 3: spot that I mentioned earlier, it will be closer to

1703
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: the actual startup.

1704
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean a lot of agents for players like

1705
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: that even at this point in time, say hey, Frank,

1706
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: our best bet now is to wait until some team

1707
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: incurs an injury at the pass rusher spot in training

1708
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: camp or in the preseason. And that's when we swoop

1709
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: in because we have a little more leverage because they

1710
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 1: have a desperate need to fill that role. If God forbid,

1711
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: somebody has a major injury in training camp for a

1712
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: team that's considered themselves a contender now suddenly need any

1713
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Oh, here's Frank Clark. Yeah, we'll take them. Well,

1714
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you three and a half million. What

1715
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: h Yeah you want them or not? Okay, you know,

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01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: And then you got some leverage there because they have

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01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: a need and there's not a ton of people walking

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: around out on the street. Uh, let's go to Daniel

1719
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: who asks where would be the best place to park

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,879
Speaker 1: for Micah's softball game at Salem Field? Yes, charity softball

1721
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: game for Micah Hyde at Salein's Field. And you can

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01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: really just it's like there's a lot of Bion's game. Yeah,

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 1: there's a lot of park if you're looking for a freebie,

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01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: I guess you get there early and park somewhere down

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01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: on Exchange Street because you can park on the side

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: of the road in some places over there, but otherwise

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01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: hit one of the lots I mean, it's I don't

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01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 1: think it's going to be bustling metropolis, you know, on

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01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: the weekend down there in early May, because festivals aren't

1730
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: in full swing yet and all that stuff. So getting

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: a good seat or a good parking spot, I should say,

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01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: should not be hard at all. Karch asks. Could Reggie

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01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: Gilliam's role be filled by the tight ends and running

1734
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: backs on this year's team, giving the Bills more athletic

1735
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: options than using a fullback. First of all, I'm gonna

1736
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,520
Speaker 1: defend Reggie Gilliam here. Yeah, he's a really good athlete.

1737
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam is not your mom and dad's fullback that

1738
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: you know. No offense to Jamie Mueller, but they're not

1739
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: like Jamie Mueller anymore, you know what I mean. Reggie

1740
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Gilliam is an athlete. I think he played some tight

1741
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: end in college Toledo, right Toledo, played some tight end

1742
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: there and was kind of an athlete for the Rockets,

1743
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: And so I think here he's a more athletic fullback

1744
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: than I think people give him credit for. All you

1745
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: gotta do is go back to that Week two touchdown

1746
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: yet against the Titans. Guy had to make a guy

1747
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: miss on the edge by the sideline. Did that Yeah,

1748
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: got hit, kept his balance and still got into the

1749
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah.

1750
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 3: I think with Gilliam it's gonna be like he's that

1751
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 3: one player feel similar to me of what happened with

1752
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 3: Levi Wallace, where it felt like the Bills were always

1753
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 3: trying to like replace him, but he just kept beating

1754
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: everyone else out.

1755
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: I think they like him too much. Just signed the

1756
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: extension last year.

1757
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: He just signed the extension.

1758
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 3: I think he's such a unique type that you just

1759
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 3: kind of label him as he's kind of like tight end,

1760
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 3: h back, full back, can be a lead blocker, could

1761
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: probably take a handoff in short yarded situations, can run

1762
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 3: those routes underneath the contact balance is there.

1763
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,520
Speaker 2: He's someone that's so unique.

1764
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 3: That I think on paper, you're like, oh, a tight

1765
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 3: end could fill in his role, or a running back.

1766
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 2: He's not going to be easy to beat out.

1767
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: On his fifty three men ross, not to mention he's

1768
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: a force on special team. Yeah, we got to take

1769
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: a break here. A couple more questions on the obl

1770
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,200
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1778
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Speaker 1: so get online and check it out. One last question

1779
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: from the mail bag comes from Bill's News Consolidated. Could

1780
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: having too much competition at a position such as middle

1781
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 1: linebacker ever hurt the evaluation process in deciding who starts.

1782
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: What do you think of that, Chris, I think it could.

1783
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: I think early on in training camp, those every single

1784
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 3: rep is going to be so valuable that early on

1785
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 3: because it's not a super long training camp like it

1786
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 3: used to be. You don't have four preseason games anymore.

1787
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 3: You have to kind of make a quick decision, and

1788
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 3: like I want to say that that first impressions will

1789
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,919
Speaker 3: be very key for a lot of these younger players,

1790
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 3: and there are a lot of younger, you know, second

1791
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: line defenders that are gonna have to learn next to

1792
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 3: Matt Malana.

1793
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: The middle linebacker spot is going to have three maybe

1794
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: four guys. If Doorian Williams is a part of it,

1795
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to will that list down fast.

1796
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1797
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: It reminds me of all the three man quarterback competitions

1798
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: of all the training camps during the drought, and you

1799
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: had to go from three to two pretty quickly because

1800
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: you go from evaluating to deciding we got to get

1801
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,959
Speaker 1: somebody ready to play week one, and there's a cutoff

1802
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: there that coaches have to employ because if they don't,

1803
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: then whoever they ultimately decide upon it's not going to

1804
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 1: have enough reps to be ready to play in the

1805
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: regular season when things go a little bit faster and

1806
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: the calls have to be made a little bit sooner

1807
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: and get I get everybody lined up. You got to

1808
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: make a check. So this if it starts at four,

1809
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: it's going to go down to three in a week,

1810
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: and then it may go down to two before you

1811
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: even get to the first preseason game because you just

1812
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: don't have enough time to get the guy you want

1813
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 1: in there ready to go. Yeah.

1814
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 3: That is definitely the most fun training camp and preseason

1815
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 3: battle to watch this year at Saint John Fisher and

1816
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 3: then in those preseason games.

1817
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much middle linebacker and the right guard

1818
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: spot are going to be the two biggest position battles

1819
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: for sure. Chris, thanks for your help. Have a great weekend.

1820
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: You guys have a great weekend too. We'll see you

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01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: next week.