1 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into Jack's Am. It's June tenth, and Mandatory Mini 2 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Camp is kicking off right now at the Miller Electric 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Center three days this week that we will see the 4 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: guys out there getting ready for this offseason program or 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: getting into this offseason program. We saw some pretty great 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: turnout during OTAs, but of course just a little bit different. 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: This is the mandatory portion. Welcome in. I'm Kinnannie Stevens, 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Brian Sexson, John Ojer are with me today. Is we're 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: going to talk things out. Big thing number one is 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: it's mandatory Mini camp now, not a ton different, Brian 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: from OTAs, and we have seen pretty good turnout, but 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: you do have to be here and after this offseason, 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: you definitely want to be a part of this, and 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: that's why we saw such good turnout earlier as well. 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really the only difference is the word mandatory 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: and that the veterans are record wired to be here. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: I think in recent years we've seen coaching stabs cancel 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: these or turn them off on the third day. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see Liam's approach. 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: My guess is is that they'll practice all three days 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: because in this transition there has been a lot to 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: get done, John, and a lot that the coaches want 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: to see before they switch it off until training camp 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: at the what the third week of July. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mandatory, so let the record show we're here, 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: so we're covered, and that's really the only difference. It's 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 4: still unpadded work eleven on eleven. It's more competitive than 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: it was before OTAs began. Other than that's what it is. 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: I don't expect them to back off this week because 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: I feel like they've had a plan that it's involved 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: thirteen on field practices to get ready. I think Thursdays 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: may be a smid shorter. Beyond that, it's OTA's which 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: is learning, not much evaluating, and trying to get ready 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: for training camp. 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Our second big thing today is going to be run away. 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: We look at different position groups this time of year 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: and some new face. We've seen a lot of new 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: faces added to this roster. Their running back room is 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: one that's going to look a lot different compared to 40 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: last year. John. We've seen a lot of additions and 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: I feel like this could be one of the most 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: competitive groups in terms of what we see in training 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: camp going into the season. 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd put it with you know, offensive line in 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: terms of the competitive level, Look, this team wants to run. 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: It feels like there is such an emphasis on it. 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: Usually teams that really really emphasize it run better than 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: the teams that don't. There's a will thing in the NFL. 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 4: There's a stick to it. I think they're going to 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: stick to it. In talking to offensive line coach sewn 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: Sean Serraht last week, he doesn't doubt that it's going 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: to be a tough offensive line emphasis on run blocking. 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: So once we get there, then we will see the 54 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: running backs come into play. And I do think it's 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: competitive and I think base Shelle Tooton has a chance 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: to start. 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: You know, they have to get better at it, and 58 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: if they do, I think it tends to an opportunity 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: to get right back into the thick of the AFC 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: South with Houston. They're an inability guy to convert on 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: third and short really has cost this offense. I'm really 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: interested in this room, and I know what you've said 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: about Tutin, and I know what happened last year in Tampa. 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: The guy that I'm interested in the most is Travis 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Etn because of what he said and I know this 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: is the time of year where you can say almost 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: anything and it all sounds so trite and wrote in 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: so many cases, but you have such competition in that 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: room now he has to be motivated by his circumstances 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: final a year of his deal. He's clearly as a 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 2: former first round pick, the most talented guy in the 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: room and the guy who has provided improved that he 73 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: can provide touchdowns and yards and big plays. Well, we've 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: watched big Speed be unable to pull away from him 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: in recent years, and now we know what Tuton's impact 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: could be. John mentioned he might start this year. I 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: think Travis etn is X factor. Call it what you want, 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: but a guy who could give this team a lot 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: this year if things line up for him, and. 80 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Will certainly be motivated in that contract here and maybe 81 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: a little more involvement in the passing game coming up 82 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: as well. Our final big thing camp competition. We talked 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: about the running back group. That's obviously going to be competitive, 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: But Brian, when you're looking elsewhere on the roster, what's 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: another position group where you feel like there's going to 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: be some great competition come camp? 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: Well, I think the middle of that defensive line to 88 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: listen to the defensive line staff last week talk about 89 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: Eric Armstead moving back inside and what they've seen and 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: heard from him since. 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Those guys aren't in full pads. 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: But what I got there last week asking Josh heinz 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Allen about Mason Smith is that he's worked hard, he's 94 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: been coachable, teachable. 95 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 5: And that his motivation level is very high. 96 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: He understands what's at stake for him in his career 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: in year two. And then you mix into Von Hamilton 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: and Jordan Jefferson, there's a lot to like about the 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: inside of this defensive line. 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: Group if they all come to play. 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 5: John Yeah, where we see competition? Where to start? I 102 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 5: think it's gonna be a lot. 103 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: I think I left tackle walk a little Fred Johnson 104 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: all over the offensive line, running back, I think safety 105 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 4: with Andrew Wingard and Caleb Ransaw the outside corner on 106 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: the other side. I'm not sure it's competition as much 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: as trying to figure out when and where Travis Hunter 108 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: will line up, how Jordan Lewis will compliment that linebackers 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: all over the place. 110 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 5: This is uh, you know. 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: I think the guys that people have penciled in the 112 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: veteran guys most of them probably start, but it's gonna 113 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 4: be interesting. And I don't think all of the guys 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: that people are penciling and will start, So it's gonna 115 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: be a good camp. 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna evolve as it goes along, which 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: will be exciting for us to see. So stay with 118 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: us here on jag Zam. We'll have more live views 119 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: of mandatory mini camps coming up after the break anyday's 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: episode of jag Zam. Rocky by Fresher from Florida. It 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: is always in season. 122 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 6: A big part of that is Travis. He puts into work. 123 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 6: Like I said, he loves football. And when you got 124 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 6: guys like that that truly love what they do, you know, 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 6: we make we make the time to get everything that 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 6: we need accomplished done each and every day, and I 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 6: think I think that's something that you'll just continue to 128 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 6: get better at. We'll continue to get better at as 129 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 6: far as making sure that we make the most of 130 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 6: every opportunity that we get. So whatever meeting it might be, 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 6: whatever time we get out on the field, also walkthrough 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 6: we just make sure we maximize the moment. 133 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: Edgar Vennant wingh in on Travis Hunter, who works with 134 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: the wide receivers a lot more than he's been working 135 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: with the dfense so far from what we've seen, but 136 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: always good things. Whenever he's on either side. 137 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: Of the football. He's fun to watch. It's hard not to 138 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: have your eyes on him. 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: And what's interesting is how many eyes are on him 140 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: have not been on Brian Thomas Junior. You know, talking 141 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: to people, they're like, oh, I forgot about Brian Thomas Junior. 142 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: You don't forget about him. 143 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure that's what coach is hoping people will 144 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: do forget about BTJ, but I don't know if they will. 145 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be fantastic next if they just single high? Yeah? 146 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 5: Right out? 147 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: Well, if it is remarkable after the rookie season that 148 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior had that your first round draft pick 149 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: could overwhelm, that could be a bigger story than that 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: in the spring. 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: If you had said to me last. 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Fall that that was possible or last spring, I wouldn't 153 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: thought it would be. 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: But doesn't it feel Brian, And like we've covered this 155 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: a while, certain guys are quiet in the off season. 156 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm to the point where I would be stunned if 157 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: he's not a fourteen hundred yard guy next year. 158 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: I think he's going to have an explosion. 159 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: And you're talking about Travis Hunter and BTJ just feels 160 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: like more of a wh I say, guaranteed, But if 161 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: he's not an all pro level guy and the best 162 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: player on the offense outside Trevor Lawrence next year, I'd 163 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: be surprised. And that's no knock on Travis Hunter. I 164 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: just think Travis is going to be the explosive, make 165 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: a play, but consistency what makes this offense run. I 166 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be number seven. 167 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend of mine who is 168 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: a scout in the NFC, and he told me he 169 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: thought that Brian Thomas Junior could be Jamar Chase, he 170 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: could be Justin Jefferson, he could be that, Oh my god, 171 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: how do we stop this guy? How do we match 172 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: up with this guy? Fourteen fifteen hundred yard guy? Whatever 173 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: he wants and he doesn't say very much. 174 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: I get the idea that BTJ might be just fine 175 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: with not having the midweek spotlight on him and not 176 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: doing the pressers and then being on NFL primetime at 177 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: night catching balls and being able to talk on the field, 178 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: So he may flourish in this because it don't me wrong. 179 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: I think he likes, like anybody in the NFL, the 180 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 4: recognition of being great. But I don't necessarily think he 181 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: needs the midweek stuff. 182 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: And I think what's cool and what I've seen in 183 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: his evolution is it now looks really easy to him. 184 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: He always looked athletic, he always looked like he was 185 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: learning and getting better as things went along. But now 186 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: it looks like it's old routine already, which is interesting 187 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: to see in a second year player because you don't 188 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: always see it picked up that quickly. And it's now 189 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: to the point where I expect him to do crazy things. 190 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not as awed by it, because that 191 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: is who he is. 192 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: I said to somebody the other day. 193 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: Last year he was adjusting to the National Football League 194 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: to playing on Sundays. 195 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: This year, the National Football League will adjust him. 196 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's gonna be. I think you're gonna 197 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 4: see accelerated. And he was good last year, don't get 198 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: me wrong, but I think you're gonna see as good 199 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: as he was last year. Most rookies outside of the 200 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: running back position aren't close to having the field vision 201 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: or the awareness in the moment that they will in 202 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: the future. I'm not saying Brian Thomas wasn't good in 203 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 4: those areas last year, but it usually accelerates. 204 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: You learn what you didn't know as a rookie. 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: So it's exciting stuff. And he is when you look 206 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: at national rankings and all that stuff, which I love 207 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: that kind of steph Brian. 208 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you top three, top five. 209 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: You see him mentioned, but there's often not. He's still 210 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: sort of a well kept secret nationally in a way, 211 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: so I think the secret will be out since So 212 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: we got. 213 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: To talk to some of the position coaches last week, 214 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: which is exciting for us because it's new staff, so 215 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of getting to know them a little bit. And 216 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: John loves to talk to an O line coach, so 217 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Sean Sarah has. 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: It was fun. 219 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: They always have a lot to say, and he talked 220 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about the competition on the line and 221 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: what he's expecting out of walker little. 222 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 5: Over position. 223 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 7: He ends up at the slidest BIS and go in 224 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 7: there and be, you know, a seventeen Games starter for 225 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 7: multiple years, and you know, and that's what we see 226 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 7: in him and Anton. They're both they're both capable of 227 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 7: going to either spot, and they're both capable of starting 228 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 7: seventeen games for us going into the playoffs, playing in 229 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 7: these big games, and it's very helpful. And we brought 230 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 7: guys in that have been in these situations, and a 231 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 7: guy like Patrick McCarry who comes in, you know, he's 232 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 7: been kind of like a blue guy around is with 233 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 7: the Ravens, who's played all these positions and he's played 234 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 7: in all these big games and he's just you know, 235 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 7: it doesn't matter if a guy goes down, you're gonna 236 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 7: move him over and he's not gonna bad or not. 237 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: I can go play, which is interesting. 238 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, let's be good for those guys. 239 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: John, I feel like this regime is definitely doing the 240 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: offensive line differently because they're bringing in young players, yes, 241 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,239 Speaker 1: but also a lot of veterans that have played multiple positions, 242 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: so that the depth will be players that can plug 243 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: and play in different spots. 244 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 245 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: He was asked last week, what like the what the 246 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: defining trade of the offensive line will be. 247 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be many. 248 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: The one he chose to speak about was versatility because 249 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 4: there are so many guys who can play different spots 250 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: as an offensive line coach. 251 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: They love that. 252 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: He mentioned usually o line coaches are looking for the 253 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: fourth guy who can snap. You know, offensive line coaches 254 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: are always trying to figure out if they have enough 255 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: centers because at some point, if guys get hurt, you 256 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: can't start the play without a center. 257 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: But he said they have plenty of them. He was 258 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 5: also interesting in. 259 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: He has zero doubt that, even though they haven't seen 260 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: it in OTA's yet, this is going to be a 261 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: tough group. 262 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: They can run block. 263 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: The emphasis on that area is something every team says 264 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: they emphasize it. The previous regime really had the attitude 265 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: Brian of they were going to run when the run 266 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: was there, but they weren't going to overpower the opponent. 267 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: I think these guys may be a team that runs 268 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: even when you know it's coming. There's a difference in 269 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: philosophy there, and I think you're going to see an 270 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: improve in the running game because of it. 271 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: I went back and watched a lot of the year 272 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers games this offseason, and I love the way 273 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: they run. If that's the approach, man, it's going to 274 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: be fun to watch this group. And I think because 275 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: we've talked about it at nauseam that they will be 276 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: much more successful on third down and short offensive line coaches, 277 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: and you remember Mike Maser. I mean, these guys, they're 278 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: just a different breed. They're just the way that they 279 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: talk and the intensity with which they speak. 280 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: I just I love listening to them. 281 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: And I think the thing that stands out the most 282 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: about this group was what they said in the early days, 283 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: and that is what you think will happen or should happen. 284 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: Probably won't. 285 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: If I was commissioner for a day, which everybody wants, 286 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: I would have offensive line coaches in addition to the coordinators. 287 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 5: We talk to the. 288 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: Media every week, because they really are the beyond those two. 289 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: If you think about it, they're usually the storyline. 290 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: Now. 291 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: I don't think most offensive line coaches would want to 292 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: do that. 293 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: They like being in the cave. 294 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: But I think when you can talk to them and 295 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: get a feel for their position group, it's often as 296 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: valuable as the coordinators. 297 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 5: So it's project Goodell, make it. 298 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Happen, Make it happen, Ozer says, So we got to 299 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: talk to quarterbacks coach Spencer Whipple as well. A lot 300 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: of talk about Trevor learning this new system, but a 301 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of focus has actually been on Trevor's footwork and 302 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: what he's seen from him so far. 303 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 8: It takes a you know, a downloading process that takes 304 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 8: say playing on the field, those reps that come up 305 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 8: in terms of practice, and so he's done a great 306 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 8: job of the self evaluation piece, saying right away, hey, 307 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 8: I did feel. 308 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: A little bit quick here. 309 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 7: Maybe I could, you. 310 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 8: Know, sit on this a little bit more and let 311 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 8: bet work so whatever it may be. And I think 312 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 8: that just goes back to his approach in terms of 313 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 8: growing and getting better each day. That's his main focus 314 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 8: and that's what he's done and that's why it's been such. 315 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: A a pleasure to work with him. Brian Trevor himself 316 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: is that he wanted to work on his footwork. All 317 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: the reports back at this point are that it's been 318 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: going quite well and just the improvement as things have 319 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: gone along. 320 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out. I mean, I don't think 321 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: we're going to find anything this week about it. You know, 322 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: get to whatever portion of the preseason he plays, and 323 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: to me, I won't be watching his feet. I don't 324 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm looking at specifically, but I'll be watching 325 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: his comfort level when he hits that back foot, and 326 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: according to coach Cohen and the entire offensive staff that 327 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: deals with the passing game, his decision making and his 328 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: ability to calmly make a play all based on his footwork. 329 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: I guess that's the only way we can judge it. 330 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got a lot of questions people saying, well, 331 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: exactly what are they doing with his footwork? I don't 332 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: think we'll ever know, because they're not going to sit 333 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: there and discuss, well, A, we want it this inch. 334 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: But I think the thing. 335 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: To take away that they're doing is it's as much 336 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: timing as it is footwork. From my understanding, meaning Liam 337 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: Cohene has talked about it often and Spencer Wioplo did too. 338 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: They just want the footwork to dictate the decision making 339 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: and make it feel as reflexive perhaps of this is 340 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: where the decision is going to be. They want to 341 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: take as much thinking out of it as possible, and 342 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: Liam keeps on talking. 343 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: About it's a gray game. 344 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: They want as many things to be black and white, 345 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: so on the decisions that he has to make, there's 346 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: a clearer head making it. So I probably didn't explain 347 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: it well enough right there, for Well, it's not an 348 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: easy thing to explain, but that's the spirit of it, 349 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: is trying to have the footwork dictate the decisions so 350 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: that anything you can do to make it a little 351 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: easier in the pocket is going to help to me 352 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: accuracy everything there, because you're just better when you're more comfortable. 353 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 5: It's about making him comfortable. 354 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: And and the bedrock of comfort is knowing where you're 355 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: supposed to be and where when you're supposed to be there, 356 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: and the footwork is all part of that. 357 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, check in quickly. I do want to talk about 358 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: the defense. 359 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: Obviously. 360 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: Coach Campanelli has been one of the newer faces, very prominent. 361 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: I just feel like his personality is very strong, which 362 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: is great for the players, and they've really taken to him. 363 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: I know Josh Heinz Allen has talked about it, but 364 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Bill Sheridan, one of the defensive assistants, talked a little 365 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: bit about his work with camp at BC and how 366 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: he's grown in those years since he was at Boston College. 367 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 9: You know, even if he's at BC, you know, super 368 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 9: like passionate and uh and to bury the football coach 369 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 9: all but when I I came. 370 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: Back here, you know been here. I don't know, maybe 371 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: eight weeks. 372 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 9: And you know, the nice thing is he has been around. 373 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 9: I was standing the defensive coaches in the National Football League, 374 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 9: Brian Flores, mcdangio, Jeff Halflee, and so in the time 375 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 9: I've been here, even like if I say, like the 376 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 9: first show three weeks here, I was like, oh, this 377 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 9: guy has been paying attention and his football and. 378 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 5: He was skywalketted John. 379 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I remember Josh heinz Allen speaking last week. He said, 380 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: you know how much he's enjoying working with this new staff, 381 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: and these are coaches you want to lay your body 382 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: on the line for. It, believes the direct quote he used. 383 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: But that's high praise. That's not something they just say. 384 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 4: Well, a couple of things about camp I don't pretend 385 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: to know him very well. I talked to him a 386 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: couple of times face to face, a couple times off 387 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 4: the record when he first got here. But Sheridan was 388 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 4: interesting talking about him because you got the impression that 389 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: Sheridan knew very quickly. Some people were put on this 390 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: earth to coach. Yeah, a lot of people coach, not 391 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 4: people are successful at it. But this guy was meant 392 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 4: to do it. And there's no doubt that Sheridan thinks 393 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 4: the Camp you know, is going to be an NFL 394 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 4: head coach and knew is going to be a great coordinator. 395 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: The most interesting thing about Camp. 396 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: I interviewed him one of the first days he got here, 397 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: turned the recorder off and I asked him about his 398 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: scheme and this is off the record, but I don't 399 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 4: think he'll mind me sharing this. 400 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 5: And he kind of. 401 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: Scoffed, and you know, we talked about scheme of bit 402 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: and he goes, you know, Johnny, Scheme's fine. It's how 403 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: much these guys know you believe in him. And that 404 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: resonated so much in every player you talk to about him. 405 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 4: That's the first thing they say, he's meant to do 406 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: this after last year. These players clearly believe that this 407 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: guy is in their corner, this guy cares about him, 408 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: and I'd be really surprised if there's not a pretty 409 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: significant I don't know about stats, but you're gonna see 410 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: a difference in the defense. 411 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: O hope. 412 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: So because last year it was so bad, I can't 413 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: add much on Camp other than I love what Josh 414 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: heines Allen said last week when he smiled. 415 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: And said he's a lot great. I mean, that's exactly 416 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: what I want to hear. 417 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: I can't add something about Bill Sheridan, a former Jaguars 418 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: assistant coach once coached with Bill Sheridan at Michigan, and look, 419 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: you know these older veteran guys that come in, and 420 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: there have been a number of them through the years, 421 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: Nobody pays a whole lot of attention to them. But 422 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: this coach called me when Sheridan was hired and said 423 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: that guy will make a big difference with a first 424 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: time defensive coordinator. So to see Bill Sheridan and delicted 425 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: to him last week and to hear him talk about 426 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: Campanelli and the way that he coaches, that's good credibility. 427 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 5: I looked here, sorry, Yan. 428 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 4: Interesting thing that when I was sitting with Sheridan, even 429 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: beyond Campanelli as a play caller, he. 430 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 5: Kind of gushed, is the right word. 431 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 4: We couldn't say enough about how the players are responding 432 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: to camp. 433 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: In the NFL. That's everything. 434 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: If these guys don't believe in you, you got no chance. 435 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 4: And these guys believe in this coordinator can't. 436 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: Fake that, that's for sure. Stay with here on Jagsam 437 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna check in around the AFC South, see what's 438 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: going on with the Texans, move the Frey, move the freight. 439 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: Magellan Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville and 440 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: you can visit it at Magellan Logistics dot com. Welcome 441 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: back into jags am Mandatory mini camp underway. First of 442 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: three days here. Not a ton different from OTAs, but 443 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: you do have to be here. That's mandatory. So we're 444 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: gonna check in on some of the other teams around 445 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: the AFC South. We've already talked about the Titans and 446 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: the Colts, so now it's time checking on the Texans. 447 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: They're having mandatory mini camp this week as well, and 448 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: so far CJ. Stroud has not been throwing. We'll see 449 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: what happens in mini camp. Obviously that's maybe a little 450 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: more ononus on him participating, but there'd be a little 451 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: dodgy about it. Tamiko Ryan said, it's just, you know, 452 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: general soreness and kind of deflected and got a little 453 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: fidgety when the media is asking about it. So I'm 454 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: curious he gets beat up a lot. He was sacked 455 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: a ton last a few ton fifty six is a 456 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: ton a literal Ton physically metaphorically, we're making it up. Anyway. 457 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: He gets sacked all the time. I'm not surprised he 458 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: was banged up. Probably a lot of stuff goes off 459 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: in the off season. But at this point to not 460 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: be throwing is interesting to me because as we saw, 461 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: you know, Trevor had an off season surgery early. Obviously, 462 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: now he's thrown shoulder, but still and to be at 463 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: this point and not be throwing with her team I 464 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: did my spidy senses are going off well. 465 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Obviously Kenny Richardson up in Indianapolis who has shoulder issues 466 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: after complaining of soreness, and they don't know when he's 467 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: going to be ready to play. 468 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: But here's the interesting part. They just they overhauled everything 469 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: John in Houston. 470 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: The offensive line is they traded Laramie Tunsel, they bring 471 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: in Cam Robinson. He's not the only offensive lineman. Stefan 472 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: Diggs is now in New England. Tak Dell is not 473 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: likely to play this year, let alone be able to 474 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: practice at any point in the future. And they fired 475 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: Bobby Slowick and they brought in Nick Calli to be 476 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator from Los Angeles. 477 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: I mean so much is different. 478 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: You'd want to have your quarterback throwing, even on a 479 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: pitch count at this point to get the most out 480 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: of his reps before camp begins. 481 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm a Texans fan. I'm probably not panicking 482 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 4: over all that because a lot of teams change stuff 483 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: at the same time. It's for Stroud not to be 484 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: throwing in many camp. Maybe there's nothing wrong, but it's 485 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: fair for people to wonder why. 486 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 5: Because he was good last year. But I don't think 487 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 5: he made the jump that they expected. 488 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: I mean, we all saw as a rookie and you 489 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: expected sort of an acceleration. 490 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: It didn't really happen, so. 491 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: I would think I obviously it's just ODDI if if 492 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: Trevor wasn't throwing, it would be the A block B 493 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 4: block problem of this show. So in perspective, that's certainly 494 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 4: something to watch for a starting quarterback, not to throw 495 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 4: a manikin. 496 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: And we should mention as well, cause he's got some 497 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: new targets he's throwing too. Obviously, Nico Collins probably out 498 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: for the year, but Christian Kirk, a familiar face to us, 499 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: is now in Houston, and you know he's not throwing 500 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: with a starting quarterback. Obviously, Christian Kirk's of that. He'll 501 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: be fine, but when you add some new additions to 502 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: the offense, it's we know it's big for Trevor Lawrence 503 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: to be working with his new receiver, so you'd imagine CJ. 504 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Stroud would want to do the same. But I hope 505 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is healthy. We'll see what he can bring 506 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: to that team down there, but it'll be interesting to 507 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: see him in a Texan's uniform. 508 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think most people will watch this show that. 509 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: Many many players come through here where you think, Okay, 510 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: they're gone. 511 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: It's fine. Christian is a guy everybody like I. 512 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: I hope he can have personal success without texting successes. 513 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: My guess is if you really pulled Christian aside and 514 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: said where would you love to I think he would 515 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: have loved to have been here with Trevor, with this team. 516 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: I think he liked this franchise a lot. Circumstances don't 517 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: always allow you to finish your career where he want to, 518 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: but good luck to him. 519 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: This great kid cap figure was twenty seven million dollars. 520 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: It goes that way. Nico Collins will be CJ. Stroud's 521 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: favorite target. Because he's that big play guy. But this 522 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: guy here could easily be his favorite receiver, the guy 523 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: that he trusts, who will always be where he is 524 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: supposed to be, because Christian Kirk always was. 525 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: But unfortunately for Christian always yes when he's on the field. 526 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: But he has not finished the last two seasons. So 527 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 4: I hope for his sake that dead doesn't become what 528 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 4: defines the end of his career, because that was also 529 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: a big reason the cap. 530 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: Yes. 531 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: Had he been fully healthy, I do wonder they wouldn't 532 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: have tried to figure out something. But you don't finish 533 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: two seasons in a row deep into your career, it 534 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: becomes an issue. 535 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us. We'll tell you what's coming 536 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: up the rest of this offseason and when training camp's 537 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: going to kick off. Welcome back into Jagvam, our final 538 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: jagxam of the off season. When we come back to 539 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: you guys in a few weeks, it will be training 540 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: camp and we'll officially be the next year, so we'll 541 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: see real football, John, how much pads hitting. 542 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 5: Well, we'll got four or five days at the start. 543 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: If you're to sort of go through the acclaimation period, 544 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: the acclamation period. 545 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 5: I want an acclamation period, right, the last thirty one 546 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 5: years haven't done it for you? Well, in life, I 547 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: could have used an acclamation period. They just threw me 548 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 5: into the pool. We're all good and this is what happened. John. 549 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: What's your favorite part of training camp? 550 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: The end, because it means the real stuff is really here. 551 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying that facetiously, but you really do training camp 552 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: to get to the games, obviously, But in this case, 553 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: the favorite part will definitely be watching the offensive line, 554 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: watching the defensive line, finding out if everything we're talking 555 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: about is real. 556 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 5: There'll be an energy this year. 557 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 4: There always is, but with this new regime offensive line, 558 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 4: there'll be an energy watching that stuff is this summer. 559 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: I like following the storylines. 560 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: You get on a guy, you're watching him, whatever position 561 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: it is, and then you get to the preseason games 562 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: and see if what you've seen on the practice field 563 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: can translate whether they really have a chance or if 564 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: they're just like one of many flashes in training camp 565 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: where they make a play but they can't sustain it. 566 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: So I like to see them on Saturday nights, right, 567 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: preseason game. 568 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Yes, we get to see it every night, every day. 569 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean throughout the year and throughout that month and 570 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: kind of get to know them a little bit and 571 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of see them as they evolve and as the 572 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: team evolves together as well, especially with the new coaching staff. 573 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: It should be very fun. So enjoy your summer break. 574 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: We'll enjoy our summer break, and we'll see you back 575 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: in late live. Let's start training to cont