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Speaker 2: Welcome in. Got some topics today about coaches and quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and I want to start. John Middelkoff will joined us

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Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes. I want to start with the

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Speaker 2: Broncos and Russell Wilson and Sean Payton's thirty five thirty

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Speaker 2: three loss to the Commanders. They had Hail Mary at

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Speaker 2: the end, and had they converted the two point conversion,

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Speaker 2: we would have gone to overtime. But I had said

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Speaker 2: this before. I didn't think Russell played particularly well. Eighteen

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Speaker 2: of thirty two, three hundred yards, had a really really

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Speaker 2: bad pick. He does not have the juice he had previously.

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Speaker 2: And I thought there were large portions of the game

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Speaker 2: that Sam Howell was much more mobile, much more of

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Speaker 2: a playmaker, and was frankly better from the pocket. And

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Speaker 2: Sam How's not as good as Russell Wilson shouldn't be. Also,

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson as Sean Payton a coaching edge. And I

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Speaker 2: said this before, is you don't have to be better

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Speaker 2: friends with your coach. You don't have to be Belichick

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Speaker 2: and Brady didn't have dinner for twenty years, but there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of things they did have in common.

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Speaker 2: Both were driven, aspirational, no nonsense adults. Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton have the opposite personality. One is harsh, authentic

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Speaker 2: to the point, doesn't beat around the bush, doesn't care

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Speaker 2: about being polished, and is willing to be intense vocally.

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Speaker 2: And then there's Russell Wilson, who is polished, optimistic, refined.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it's okay for a quarterback to

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Speaker 2: be more optimistic than pessimistic because people make mistakes. You

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Speaker 2: play with young guys, you want Brady try to be optimistic.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes optimism can veer away from realism. And so

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Speaker 2: in order for Russell Wilson and Sean Payton to work,

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Speaker 2: they have to win games. You can't go zero and

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Speaker 2: two to start the season, both games in Denver. You

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Speaker 2: can't lose to Sam Howell and Ron Rivera as a favorite.

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Speaker 2: You can't lose back to back games as a favorite

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Speaker 2: against the Raider and the Commanders. And so this relationship

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Speaker 2: only works because the personalities are so different. It only

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Speaker 2: works if they win these close games and they're zero

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Speaker 2: and two. The very first day he had the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: he did. Sean Payton acquired Jarrett Stidham for a pretty

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Speaker 2: healthy backup quarterback salary, which told you when he got

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Speaker 2: to Denver, the first thing he did was look at

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson film. How do I know, because he told

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Speaker 2: me that was the first thing he was going to do.

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Speaker 2: He was going to look at all his plays. What

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Speaker 2: does he do well? What doesn't he do well? Let's

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Speaker 2: avoid the latter, let's go toward the former. So he

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Speaker 2: obviously saw stuff on film where he wanted somebody who

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Speaker 2: could sit in the pocket and make throws. Remember in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans, once Drew Brees got older, they had Taysom Hill,

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Speaker 2: they had Jameis Winston, they had Teddy Bridgewater. He was

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Speaker 2: cycling people through as Drew Brees aged. Well. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: is thirty four, and he looks like he's thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: He just simply does not move as well as he

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Speaker 2: did four years ago. I don't know if some of

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Speaker 2: it's confidence emotional, no major surgeries. Thirty four. He plays

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Speaker 2: much much older than his age. Brady obviously played much

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Speaker 2: younger than his age. Aaron Rodgers largely plays younger pre

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Speaker 2: injury than his age. But this thing doesn't work, and

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Speaker 2: you know, again, the hail Mary makes this game look

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Speaker 2: more competitive. Very early on Denver scripted plays had some

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Speaker 2: success that Sean Payton doing the work. But when you

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Speaker 2: get to late first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, early

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Speaker 2: fourth that's quarterback play, that's pre snap, that's you quarterback

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Quarterbacks I don't even like Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: had very very good fourth quarter, late third quarters today,

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Speaker 2: just on athleticism and some big time throws. So I

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Speaker 2: think this, I think they're headed for major turbulence in

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Speaker 2: Denver next year, starting next year for five years. This

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Speaker 2: is a massively punitive contract to the Broncos with a

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Speaker 2: think there's there's nothing wrong with being optimistic, but I

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Speaker 2: think it gets frustrating when somebody's really optimistic and there's

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Speaker 2: obvious problems. I mean, I like optimistic people. I don't

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Speaker 2: like negative people. But you know, if the walls are

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Speaker 2: caving in, you know we're in the middle of an earthquake.

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Speaker 2: I don't want optimism. I want to figure out a

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Speaker 2: so I think we're looking at a situation here in Denver.

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Speaker 2: This is only going to get worse. The schedule's only

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Speaker 2: going to get tougher now they go on the road.

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Speaker 2: And again, if you watch the game, and I did,

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Speaker 2: I thought Sam Howe played more confidently. Really really hard

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Speaker 2: to figure out. Never seen a quarterback have it lose

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Speaker 2: it without a major injury pre thirty five years old.

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Speaker 2: Never seen it. I have no comp Speaking of quarterback trouble,

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Speaker 2: you can blame the coach or blame the quarterback. Justin

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Speaker 2: field right now doesn't look like a franchise quarterback. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you can't see the field or anticipate.

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Speaker 2: But they spend some money on that offense. The offensive

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Speaker 2: line isn't great, but it's not as bad as others

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Speaker 2: in the league. I mean, you can watch the way

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Speaker 2: they coach him. They so badly want to control the clock, run,

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Speaker 2: speed the game up, shorten it. DJ Moore is a

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Speaker 2: really good player. If they got good tight ends. Luke Getz,

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Speaker 2: he's a respected offensive coordinator. It just doesn't work. So

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a situation in Chicago. You got to

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Speaker 2: blame somebody. Somebody is done after the season, is it.

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Speaker 2: Matt Eberflu's the head coach that was Bill Pollion's choice.

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Speaker 2: The ownership of the Bears called Bill Pollion and said,

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Speaker 2: kind of run our coaching search and Matt Eberflus. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm a believer that if you have a young quarterback,

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Speaker 2: higher an offensive coach, if you have a veteran quarterback, okay,

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Speaker 2: then you can go defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's pretty clear evidence that the Jared Goff's

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Speaker 2: career was saved by Sean McVay. Brock Perty's career has

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Speaker 2: been elevated by Kyle Shanahan. Shane Steichen has done wonders

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Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson, who barely played college football. I think

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Speaker 2: young quarterbacks need substantial guidance and a softer landing after

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Speaker 2: bad outcomes, and sometimes defensive coaches can be tone deaf.

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Speaker 2: Matty e Nflus maybe a good coach. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he's good for justin fields. But it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't work at all. It's it's just bad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can it's like Zack Wilson of the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Zach isn't just the only reason the Jets lost Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons ate him up, but it doesn't work. Zack's not

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Speaker 2: a He's not a franchise quarterback. Now, Justin's bigger, stronger arm,

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Speaker 2: maybe bigger athlete. Both are really mobile. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Greg Cosell came on my show this week and said,

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson and Justin Fields don't see the field particularly well.

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Speaker 2: They just leave completions in the pocket. Somebody's got to

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Speaker 2: take the blame for this because we're now, what is

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields? He is five and twenty two in twenty

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Speaker 2: seven starts. I mean, these are winnable games at home

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Speaker 2: against Jordan Love, on the road against Baker Mayfield. Again,

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Speaker 2: faster than ever. And also, remember this is the best

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Speaker 2: college quarterback class I've ever seen. Michael Pennox, Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, Bo Nicks, Travis, Jordan, Drake, may Riley Leonard

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Speaker 2: here we are again. It's like a repeat of last week.

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Speaker 2: So Brandon Staley's defense could not stop Ryan Tannehill the

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Speaker 2: last time he had the ball in the fourth, Nor

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Speaker 2: could they stop Ryan Tannehill in his big possession in overtime,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill. When an offense that's searching for a second receiver,

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Speaker 2: you can blame Justin Herbert. But Justin Herbert has averaged

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Speaker 2: more points in his first three year starting than any

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Speaker 2: It's not an offensive problem. That's not the problem. Brandon

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Speaker 2: Staley and Brian Dabele interviewed for the Chargers job. Brian

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Speaker 2: Dabele is who I would have hired. Staley was cheaper,

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Speaker 2: and he was on the Rams staff, and perhaps the

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Speaker 2: Spanos family felt like, you know, we can pluck him

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Speaker 2: away and slow down the momentum of the Rams. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what they were thinking. But Brandon Staley had much

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Speaker 2: less experience in football. So much of the Rams' success

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Speaker 2: about plucking people from his staff. We know that Daboll

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Speaker 2: I just think they hired the wrong coach. I watched

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Speaker 2: this defense, Bosa Derwin, James J. C. Jackson. They've drafted well,

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Speaker 2: they could probably use another interior defensive lineman. By and large,

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Speaker 2: this is an experienced defense that brought back almost all

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Speaker 2: it's Miami, but again the last two big possessions by Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee can't get a stop. So the Spanos family has

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Speaker 2: not going to run him in season. Plus they made

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Speaker 2: many mistakes on third and long and coverages. You can

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Speaker 2: see it on television. They just can't make big stops. So,

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Speaker 2: Millman this week. He comes on for Sharper square, and

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Speaker 2: he said, this is a major coaching mismatch, which is why,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I thought Denver would win today. I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a coaching mismatch. But Brandon Staley, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're that front office right now, the Spano says Tom

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Speaker 2: to let's go the GM. I can assure you they're

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Speaker 2: not happy, and I do believe one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: they brought Kellen Moore over not only did they feel

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Speaker 2: it was an upgrade, but they were concerned on what

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Speaker 2: they saw in the first two years of Brandon Staley's defense.

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Speaker 2: And my guess is Kellen Moore, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it would happen at the end of the season or Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: This team is just simply too talented to be zero

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Speaker 2: and two. There's too many good players on this roster.

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Speaker 2: There's almost no holes. I've been reluctant for years to

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Speaker 2: embrace the Chargers. This is the year I finally did.

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Speaker 2: It's just inexcusable. Ball is back in full swing and

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Speaker 2: I didn't love that reversal on the I would have

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Speaker 2: I would have let it go. I got to tell

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Speaker 2: be overly critical of Belichick because he is the smartest

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls. But the Niners have the best personnel in

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Speaker 1: Well, he's an Ivy League Shanahan, right, the Ivy League guy.

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Speaker 1: The Shanahan family have known him for twenty years. He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight, when you juxtapose these two teams, it was

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Speaker 2: The question was can Miami play physical football like New England?

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Speaker 2: It was like, Wow, Miami can play power football too

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Speaker 1: No, I mean San Francisco today, I thought I had

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Speaker 1: got to be pretty flawless in terms of not turning

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Speaker 1: You can say all their guys don't get open, but

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Speaker 1: You can't really cut Mac, but they're kind of just

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Speaker 2: And the other thing was in New England's heyday for

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Speaker 2: I think they're a team that lacks speed. They don't,

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Speaker 2: they're not Their schemes aren't smarter. They're not fooling people.

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Speaker 2: They're turning the ball over.

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Speaker 2: They never had to be the most athletic team or

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Speaker 2: They got no playmakers Kendrick Bourne's Devonte Parkers. And they're

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Speaker 2: as I came into the season, Sam, I'm about fifty

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Speaker 2: But I don't love what I see as a passer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought today it was bad, Like you

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Speaker 2: my takeaway is you got to win that game against

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield, and Baker Mayfield was far

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Speaker 2: more productive. Like they've that offensive line for Chicago. It's

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Speaker 2: not elite. It's not it's you know, it's not Philadelphia John.

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Speaker 2: It's not that bad. There was time today to make plays.

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Speaker 1: He's not very good, Colin. It's it's just that simple.

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Speaker 1: He's not right now, he's a low level NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Of all the thirty two starters, he's much closer to

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Speaker 1: He didn't even mess with him. He was not even

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the good quarterbacks win. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 2: five and twenty two. Come on, Dan Marino didn't win

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Speaker 2: super Bowls. Dan Marino won a lot of games, okay,

427
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Speaker 2: and not always not with always you know, great person. Well,

428
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Speaker 2: Brett Farv won a lot of games without Pro Bowl

429
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Speaker 2: wide receivers. There's three or four plays in every football

430
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Speaker 2: game that high end quarterbacks make Mac Jones tonight on

431
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Speaker 2: that final drive. Some of those play he just doesn't

432
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Speaker 2: move well enough. And I think what happens John in

433
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Speaker 2: situations like this is for instance, Herbert, I saw some

434
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Speaker 2: stat in his last like four starts, you know, he's

435
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Speaker 2: sixty six percent completion percentage, ninety eight passer rating, thirteen

436
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Speaker 2: hundred yards. They're zero to four, and nobody looks at

437
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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert and says it's Justin's fault. They're putting up

438
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Speaker 2: twenty six twenty eight a game. This is different. You

439
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: may not love the coach, but what happens when you

440
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: don't love the quarterback. So here's the thing. I think

441
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Speaker 2: it would be a tougher decision for Chicago. But if

442
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Speaker 2: you're the GM and you're the owner, and you have

443
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Speaker 2: a draft coming up with six to seven first round

444
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and all of them, I mean, Drake may sder Sanders,

445
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Michael Pennix is having a season crushing it.

446
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, all of these guys look like modern

447
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: Even bon Nicks looks better this year. So I do

448
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: think it's easier to move off. It's easier to move

449
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Speaker 2: off justin fields than maybe any other year. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry their offensive personnel, John, It's not that bad, it's not.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a two prong question. Now, one do

452
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Speaker 1: you leave justin fields. It's an easy one because you

453
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Speaker 1: just watch him every week. Even the fans will agree

454
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Speaker 1: he's not good enough. It's not one of those that

455
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Speaker 1: it'll be universal. It is growing by the week. I mean,

456
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Speaker 1: my mom can tell the guy is not a very

457
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Speaker 1: good player at this point, this GM and coach didn't

458
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Speaker 1: draft him. Then you look at the coach and the GM.

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Speaker 1: Are they the right people to do this moving forward?

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Speaker 1: They traded for Chase Claypool last week pick thirty two.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw that viral video going around. That's

462
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Speaker 1: a good example a good organization. Okay, the pickslong Gaunt

463
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Speaker 1: cut the guy after week one? What are you gonna do?

464
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Speaker 1: Lose more games? You're already losing. How do you allow

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Speaker 1: that to happen? And to me, you just questioned the

466
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Speaker 1: operation there. Obviously, Eberflus, is he good enough? I got

467
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Speaker 1: no clue. So you're gonna draft Pennix because they're gonna

468
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Speaker 1: be in position, not just with their pick, but remember

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this with Carolina's pick, so even if

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Speaker 1: they're at like three and six, they could easily maybe

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Speaker 1: get up a spot. They're gonna have a ton of options, right,

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Speaker 1: But are these people the group to do it? We've

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Speaker 1: seen them make moves. The draft one was relatively easy.

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Speaker 1: They had Carolina, you know, kind of bent over a

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Speaker 1: barrel on that one. But some of these other moves,

476
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Speaker 1: it's like, do they know what they're doing? Especially the

477
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Speaker 1: defensive coach You always talked talk about this, So I

478
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean people in the NFL, it's always

479
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Speaker 1: easy to say, well, just tank for this guy. Well

480
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Speaker 1: that's true for the fans, but we see coaches all

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Speaker 1: the time. Todd Bowle is a good example. O Tampa

482
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Speaker 1: just sucked. Try to get Kayleb Williams. Todd Bowle's not

483
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Speaker 1: thinking like that. Mike Evans and those guys aren't thinking

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Speaker 1: a lot. Baker's not thinking like that. So they're not

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be a ten win team,

486
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Speaker 1: but they're gonna try like hell to be eight nine wins. Right,

487
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Speaker 1: So the Bears are just gonna suck because that's the

488
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Speaker 1: quarterback not any good. But do the other if if

489
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Speaker 1: they were in position with better personnel, would they be

490
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Speaker 1: doing better? Like are these guys capable? We see it

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Speaker 1: with Brandon Staley right clear, he's not good. He's been

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Speaker 1: given a team that if you flip flop him and Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, well, the charge are gonna win thirteen

494
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Speaker 1: games and Titans would win what fucking five? I mean,

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Speaker 1: they'd be terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's great example. I want to I want

497
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Speaker 2: to pivot to that because Brandon Staley got into it

498
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Speaker 2: again with a reporter on the postgame press conference, and

499
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Speaker 2: he is feeling the heat. And I know the Chargers

500
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Speaker 2: in house don't love Staley snipping at reporters. He comes

501
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Speaker 2: across as sort of a know it all and condescending.

502
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Speaker 2: McVeigh doesn't. I think you've said it before. Brandon Staley's acting,

503
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Speaker 2: pretending to be a coach, and Sean McVay is a coach.

504
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Speaker 2: But it was another example today where Ryan Tannehill's final

505
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Speaker 2: drive in regulation, they couldn't make a stop. Ryan Tannehill's

506
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Speaker 2: driving overtime, they couldn't make a stop. Not only do

507
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Speaker 2: they have a Bosa on the edge, but they returned.

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Speaker 2: I think like ten starters, they're not and they have

509
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Speaker 2: two draft picks both especially two of from USC the edge.

510
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Speaker 2: They are good players. I mean they they Tom Selesko

511
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Speaker 2: is one of the better drafters in the league. First

512
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Speaker 2: four picks. Yeah, he just doesn't miss. Now, you could

513
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: say Khalil Mack was overpaid, but the truth is at

514
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: that time they needed somebody like having two pass rushers.

515
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Speaker 2: Herbert wasn't making any money. Your left tackle Rashaan Slater's

516
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: not making money. You can pay two pass rushers. I

517
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Speaker 2: don't think the Spanoses will eject Staley this year. But

518
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Speaker 2: let me throw this at you. Did they hire Kellen

519
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Speaker 2: Moore with an eye on making him the coach? Because

520
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: the Spanouses don't pay a fortune, you don't have to

521
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Speaker 2: pay Kellen Moore twelve million dollars, I would guess today

522
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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore the coach next year. I don't know if

523
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Speaker 2: they replace him mid season. But like when a coach

524
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Speaker 2: is arguing with the press and calling them out by name,

525
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Speaker 2: like to me, that feels personal and defensive, Well, I.

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Speaker 1: Think sometimes they're gonna be different. Sides do arguments sometimes

527
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Speaker 1: when it comes to play calling or individual player. I

528
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Speaker 1: think everyone's in agreement here. The Chargers don't have a

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Speaker 1: good enough coach for the team that they have, and

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Speaker 1: most people thought this offseason, Yes, Sean Payton in your backyard,

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Speaker 1: He's already in LA. He likes it. He clearly loves

532
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Speaker 1: your quarterback. Anyone that follows this team knows he was

533
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Speaker 1: never gonna pay him money. That's not the way they operate.

534
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Speaker 1: Look at their last several coaches, McCoy, Anthony Lynn, and

535
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Speaker 1: these guys on the on the hierarchy of NFL salaries

536
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Speaker 1: are near the bottom if Mike, aren't they I mean

537
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Speaker 1: they're the cheapest. So yeah, I think Kellen Moore, I

538
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Speaker 1: think there's a chance you're oher to four to OHO

539
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Speaker 1: and five and you keep losing games which you can't

540
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Speaker 1: pick them to win moving forward, just because you can't

541
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Speaker 1: trust the head coach and the defenses and shambles. But yeah,

542
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Speaker 1: I could see them, you know, kind of pulling the

543
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Speaker 1: trigger because there was clearly pressure coming into this season.

544
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Speaker 1: He feels it. Think about some of the moves they made.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on Khalil Mack, but a big reason

546
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Speaker 1: they wanted Khalil Mack because this guy had coached him,

547
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Speaker 1: helped make his name with Khalil Mack back when Khalil

548
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Speaker 1: Mack was good. They gave up a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: He makes a lot of money. I love Khalil Mack

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Speaker 1: as a young player. He's a shell of himself. He's

551
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Speaker 1: not very good, right j C. Jackson. You spend a

552
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Speaker 1: lot of much that's not working out now he got hurt,

553
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Speaker 1: but so you allocate a lot of resources. It's not working.

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Speaker 1: Your head coach has nothing to do with the offense

555
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Speaker 1: or the quarterback. So if the defense sucks, what's he

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Speaker 1: really doing. He's not like some raw ram motivator. Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: Nick saban Deon Sanders. That's not a deal, right. I

558
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Speaker 1: think he's in major trouble. I mean I because he's

559
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Speaker 1: not that expensive to fire. Real It's not like you're

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Speaker 1: firing Andy Reader Sean Payton where you have an eighty

561
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Speaker 1: million dollar payout. I think there are a couple losses

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Speaker 1: away from just just doing that, you know, and almost

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Speaker 1: and almost getting a free interview Colin with Kellen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting I'm looking at some numbers right now.

565
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Speaker 2: So if anybody's watching this on YouTube, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: some numbers because, as you know, they threw for almost

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Speaker 2: five hundred yards and tonight again, I think the Chargers

568
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Speaker 2: have better personnel overall than the Patriots do defensively, and

569
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Speaker 2: remember the Patriots were missing two corners and one got hurt.

570
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Speaker 2: Threw for two hundred and forty nine yards and an

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Speaker 2: interception against New England. Against the Chargers of more talented defense,

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Speaker 2: he almost threw for five hundred yards and three touchdowns. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: Tua struggled to a dropped a couple of snaps. Tua

574
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Speaker 2: was pressured. So there's a prime example, is that to

575
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Speaker 2: a one. But he he sputtered for a while. He

576
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Speaker 2: wasn't perfect a lot of the stuff with yards after catch.

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Speaker 2: He almost got double the yards against the Chargers that

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Speaker 2: he did against New England, and the Chargers have better personnel.

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Speaker 1: Well, think about this. You watched the Bengals the last

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Speaker 1: couple weeks. You go, well, if Joe Burrow's gonna look

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Speaker 1: like this, yeah, they're gonna lose like they He's got

582
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Speaker 1: to play better. I don't know if his CAF's issue.

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Speaker 1: He just looks off the eye test. It does not

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Speaker 1: look like Joe Burrow. Now last year he started slow, whatever,

585
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Speaker 1: But it's understandable. If Joe Burrow's gonna play like crap,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna lose. Well, Herbert's played well, you know,

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Speaker 1: they keep scoring points. He looks like a really good

588
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Speaker 1: quarterback and they keep losing. The Dolphins last week Okay,

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Speaker 1: it turns out maybe the Dolphins fourteen win team, this

590
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Speaker 1: Titans team. I mean, how many guys were the Titans

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Speaker 1: would start for the for the Chargers. And to me,

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Speaker 1: it's just simple. It's a coaching It's like Patrick Mahomes

593
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Speaker 1: versus Justin Fields. The mismatch is so so wide that

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Speaker 1: of course they lost. Because Mike Vrabel is an elite coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have their defensive interior defensive lineman for Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: He had a Simmons good Jeff, he's a star.

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00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got about two or three other guys

598
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Speaker 2: that you would obviously get run. But it was a

599
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: lobsided game today. And I think, even though I was

600
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Speaker 2: reading something on the internet yesterday about it, like the

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Speaker 2: wise guys like the Titans simply because they thought it

602
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Speaker 2: was a coaching one of the worst coaching mismatches in

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Speaker 2: the league this year. So, I mean, we might as

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Speaker 2: well talk Dallas and the Jets. I think I think Dallas,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's not a lot of great quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: this league. There's about six great ones and another six

607
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: good ones. Anybody that's not on that list is not

608
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Speaker 2: beating Dallas this year. Now, Jalen Hurts can Daniel Jones can't.

609
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Speaker 2: He can't beat him. Sam Sam Hall can't beat him.

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson can't beat him. I mean I look at

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Speaker 2: Dallas and I go up and down their schedule, and

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Speaker 2: the way I look at that defense, John is there's

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Speaker 2: about six quarterbacks in this league that can beat him,

614
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Speaker 2: and another four or five that if they get protection,

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Speaker 2: you know it'll be a close game. I think Dallas's

616
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Speaker 2: defense is gonna win twelve games. I think Dak is not.

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Speaker 2: The story. Is Micah Parsons the best defensive player in

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 1: Well, he had a play today on I think his

620
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Speaker 1: first sac He was at full speed in half a

621
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Speaker 1: step on a little stunt. It's like, what are you

622
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Speaker 1: supposed to do with this here? I was way too

623
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: young to really remember, you know, watch LT's prime, but

624
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Speaker 1: that has to be some of what it looked like.

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: The speed, the violence, closing ability, how you can move

626
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: them around like a chess piece. I thought this last

627
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: year in the second round, they went toe to toe

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Speaker 1: with the Niners, who are clearly, if not the most

629
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Speaker 1: but right there now with Dallas is the most physical team.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are violent on defense and the Cowboys

631
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Speaker 1: were ready to win a championship on defense, but Dack

632
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: through the two picks and that the game was tight.

633
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: Perdy didn't play that well because it's hard against the Cowboys.

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00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: This defense feels even a little bit better. Maybe Micah's

635
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Speaker 1: five percent better. All the guys have played together a

636
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Speaker 1: little longer. They kept Dan Quinn. I'm with you. I

637
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Speaker 1: picked Dallas to win the East at the beginning of

638
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: the year, not because I don't think highly of the Eagles.

639
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Speaker 1: I think both of them are thirteen fourteen win teams.

640
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Speaker 1: But I've seen what the Niners do. Separating with an

641
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: elite defense, in an elite pass rush, it just takes over.

642
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Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Wilson, listen, has he improved it? Who knows?

643
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: You weren't gonna find much out this week. Probably have

644
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: a better idea next week, but he's playing Belichick. But

645
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: that team, I'm telling you, if they just need to

646
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Speaker 1: get the four game stretch, if they stay healthy like

647
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: Eli gott like Joe Flacco got whe Dad could just

648
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: under control. They don't need the wild card game where

649
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: he throws five touchdowns every week. Can he just play

650
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: a couple games stretch where he's not throwing the ball

651
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Speaker 1: to the other team, and they can win a Super

652
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Bowl because that's how good the defense is. The same

653
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Speaker 1: with the Niners. The Niners could have won several Super Bowls.

654
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Their defense was right there. Jimmy just let him down

655
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Speaker 1: a couple times.

656
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Speaker 2: Well, look at this. So here are the quarterbacks. The

657
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: Cowboys face Dobbs Arizona win.

658
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: He can't beat it.

659
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: Now, Mac Jones, Patriots with no number one receiver win. Now,

660
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: brock Perty's got a shot because of his personnel. Herbert Okay, Stafford.

661
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: I don't think they have enough weapons. Cooper Cup is back.

662
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. Jalen hurts, Yes, then Daniel Jones, Bryce Young,

663
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Speaker 2: Sam Howe, Geno Smith, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Gonna win a lot of games. They're gonna win a

665
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Speaker 1: lot of games. But they got three games. You know,

666
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Speaker 1: if they if they somehow split with the Eagles in

667
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: that Niner game on Sunday Night Football, I think it's

668
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Speaker 1: gonna be a coin flip game. If they can somehow

669
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Speaker 1: go two and three, you're looking at the number one seed, right,

670
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: And if they go one and three, you're maybe looking

671
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Speaker 1: at the wild card, right. So it's gonna and I

672
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: think all these games, the Niners played the Eagles. Obviously,

673
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the Nighters play the Cowboys, and the Eagles play the

674
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys twice. You know, it's these games are gonna come

675
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: down to a fumble here who doesn't throw a pick?

676
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: And it's gonna decide because all three have number one

677
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: seed talents, right. I think clearly the Niners have the

678
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: most established head coach right now in terms he's the

679
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Speaker 1: play caller. Also, McCarthy say this, when you have that

680
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: good of a defense, it hardens your team because you

681
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: practice against it. And now this team, so the Cowboys

682
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: to me just look a little bit better than they

683
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: did last year, and they were pretty good last year.

684
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: And the Eagles. You and I talked about this anytime

685
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Speaker 1: you change. If we got we went to the store

686
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Speaker 1: and got a set of ingredients, you know two X

687
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: I cook a meal, and you know Gordon Ramsey cooks

688
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: the meal. Even though it's the same ingredients, the meal

689
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: is gonna taste different. So just because the players return

690
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: new coordinators doesn't look the same, right.

691
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also think dan Quinn they'll be they'll

692
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: be fine. But yeah, no, I Dallas is I haven't.

693
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Speaker 2: I hadn't as a player team. I also think Philadelphia,

694
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: we can circle back to Thursday. Philadelphia is pulled back.

695
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: They dot they don't know quite what they are. And

696
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: it's interesting because you know, they have a power running

697
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: quarterback and they signed into a big contract. And it's

698
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: like when Russell Wilson signed his big deal, he didn't

699
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: want to run anymore. And then Jalen Hurt signs his

700
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: big deal, and my takeaway is if he plays only

701
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: four more years, that's worth the contract. He's a power

702
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: running quarterback, lean into what he is. It's almost like

703
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: some of these guys that run around when they signed

704
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: the big contracts, they think, okay, that's for a pocket quarterback.

705
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: It's like, no bro like Lamar Jackson today. I always

706
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: thought Lamar throws it better than people give him credit for,

707
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, but I watched him today and he is

708
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: just a pain in the ass to defend. He's just

709
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: he's just difficult. And Baltimore is a fascinating team because

710
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: none of these injuries I don't know than JK. Dobbins

711
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: are season ending injuries. I don't know how much of

712
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: you watch today.

713
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Speaker 1: I think both they look good. They look good. Lamar good,

714
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean he was dynamic.

715
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: I thought he was dynamic, and I think, you know,

716
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: you start looking around at who can beat Patrick Mahomes.

717
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: You take out the Chargers because we don't like the coach.

718
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: Forget Denver, Cincinnati sputtering, Buffalo makes too many mistakes. You know,

719
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: I look around it and I'm you know, Baltimore is

720
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: one of those teams like if Obj was healthy, Zay

721
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: Flowers plays well. Baltimore is just goofy enough counter to

722
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: what the league is. Do you find them to be

723
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: a legit kind of AFC championship team. I think they're

724
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: so different they're hard to prepare for.

725
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these type players have come

726
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: into the league, really starting with Tyreek Hill and Deebo

727
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: and I think Waddle's like this. I think Zay Flowers,

728
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: he's a really dynamic player, and you put him on

729
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: that offense, he can he can do a lot like

730
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: you can play a receiver. You put him in the backfield,

731
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: you can get him end to rounds. He's added a

732
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: new el because you know, Baltimore is always going to

733
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: be solid on defense. Their culture of toughness when Lamar

734
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: is running around. Because I like what you said about Hurts,

735
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: I missed on hers. I thought he was I didn't

736
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: like him in college, but I said, hell, if you

737
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: can't play quarterback, he could just transition to become a

738
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: running back. His instincts as a runner or elite. What

739
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: do you do right away? When he came in the NFL,

740
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: he was a dynamic runner. Well, now it feels like

741
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: clearly they've told him be careful. Last year, you hurt

742
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: your shoulder. Lamar, today's run around like it's twenty nineteen.

743
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Now Hurts is kind of feeling his way out. It's

744
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: like Jalen either. They called some quarterback powers. Well, if

745
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell him he can't run fast, don't call

746
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: those plays anymore. But that's a huge element of why

747
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: he's a fifty million dollar player. So now they're kind

748
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: of caught in no man's lamb. He's thinking he's not

749
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: running as fast. He's never gonna be. He's more of

750
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: a rhythm player, kind of like Russell was in his peak.

751
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: He's not just gonna sit back and throw forty times

752
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: and go thirty seven to forty. That's not his style.

753
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: It's blended in with the runs like Lamar, and he

754
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: can outplay Mahomes in the Super Bowl. But when you

755
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: take away one of those elements, new play callers clearly

756
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: not as good as Shane's ssiching. It's just it just

757
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: it looks a little weird. We're listen, the Ravens kept

758
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: talking We're gonna spread it out and throw. I've watched

759
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: the first couple weeks. They're just kind of playing Raven

760
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: football again.

761
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I like, I think Baltimore leans into what

762
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Lamar is, and I think what he is is the

763
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: fastest human being that's ever played quarterback. And if you

764
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: don't use that at silly and I still think Lamar

765
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: throws the ball better than people give him credit for.

766
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: You know, I was, I was thinking about it's you know,

767
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: I this weekend was an interesting weekend because you know,

768
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: there wasn't and nothing blew me away. I mean, I

769
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: can't hit a pick. I'm oh for nine on my picks.

770
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: I got Carolina tomorrow. I can't for the life of me,

771
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: I can't get a pick. Was there anything this weekend?

772
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Colorado almost lost the Colorado State was the

773
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: only surprising thing I saw this weekend. Was there anything

774
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: that took you back this weekend? Or like I thought,

775
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: green Bay Atlanta. The line was one you know, I

776
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: don't I don't take much into it didn't shock me

777
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: that Seattle went on the road. Gino played pretty well

778
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: in one. Was there any did you have any takeaway

779
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: to you this weekend college or pro that it was

780
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: like a woe moment?

781
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Speaker 1: Well, one thing I might be wrong on and I

782
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: might have talked to you out of this because you

783
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: were loved them, and I was like, you know, I

784
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the worst team in the league.

785
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: And it was the Rams a lot of you because

786
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: you liked a lot of the young players. Their young

787
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: players look pretty good. Yeah, and the one thing they

788
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: have is a big time head coach who is a

789
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: fantastic play caller who's just awesome. I mean, Sean mcvazis

790
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: stud his quarterback went healthy, is a pretty freaking good player.

791
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: And you know, the Niners essentially won by ten. He

792
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal with no time left, but to

793
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: make it a seven point game. RAMS team is pretty good.

794
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: If they had Cooper Cup on this squad, they're gonna

795
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: be able to score on a lot of people. If

796
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Stafford playing healthy, they have some young speed on defense.

797
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Number zero young the pass rush they drafted. He's flying

798
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: around Sean. I thought I misread that squad. They have

799
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: a little more talent than I thought, and obviously I

800
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: thought the quarterback was breaking down last year. He looked fantastic.

801
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: He looks like the version of the guy that they got.

802
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they are more in the wild card mix and

803
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: not in the Caleb Williams sweet stakes than I realized.

804
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to pivot on that take.

805
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, so they have a rookie receiver from BYU.

806
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: He's fantastic.

807
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah so he's He's got twenty five catches and two.

808
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Broke a record most ever in NFL history first two games.

809
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: So I think they're moving off Van Jefferson, who one

810
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: of the picks today by Stafford was Van Jefferson didn't

811
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: run the right route, he didn't go vertically. He kind

812
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: of like faded on it. So if Cooper comes back

813
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: as a one, now they have a two. By the

814
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: way two two out, well looked like a bust. Now

815
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: he's productive. You know what they do and they told

816
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: me they were going to do this. They just put

817
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: him in motion so you can't get your hands on

818
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: him fast and he gets a running start. He's just

819
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: too fast. So now they have and Tyler Higbey's a

820
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: very nice tight end. So now they have two two

821
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: at well Cooper Cup the rookie from BYU, And now

822
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, now it's a real offense. Will

823
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: say this, here's a prime example. What I talk about.

824
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Ten of the top eleven O lines were offensive coaches.

825
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: So Rob Havenstein, the right tackle is very good, and

826
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: they drafted a very good left guard out of TCU.

827
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: Everything else. They got a left tackle playing right guard.

828
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: They got a guard who's a backup center now starting

829
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: at center. They have an undrafted guy planning left tackle.

830
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: It's a prime example. Sean McVeigh twice, Jared Goff's first

831
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: year with him, and this year has basically taken an

832
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: offensive line that was a bit of a wreck and

833
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: solved it in a single off season. McDermott five years,

834
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: can't get it right. Tomlin six years, can't get the

835
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: O line right. Twice because the Niners didn't get as

836
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: much pressure as you think they would against an O

837
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: line outside of right tackle that's viewed as poor.

838
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: They've i mean, we're getting to Colin. They weren't getting

839
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: any pressure so they've heard blitzing Fred Warner.

840
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: So it's like the Rams in two starts have done

841
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: a great job of production. You look at these defensive coaches.

842
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: They Andy Reid one off season got the old line right.

843
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: McVeigh did it with Whitworth. Mcveigh's done it. This is

844
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: the difference between offensive and defensive coaches. The ability because

845
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: during camp I was following the Rams offensive line stuff

846
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: through the athletic I was following the young reporter.

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Speaker 1: It was a mess.

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Speaker 2: They were giving you like six different options and then

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Speaker 2: they ended up starting noteboom and a guard. They just

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Speaker 2: bailed on the tackle and they're good and highly functional.

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Speaker 2: So I again, if Cooper cup comes back and plays,

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Speaker 2: what they'll be in the NFC is around a wild

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Speaker 2: card berth because let's be honest, Dallas is probably better

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Speaker 2: than we all thought Detroit did Detroit today, I think

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Speaker 2: you're right. I think the Rams will be viable. I

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Speaker 2: think they'll be a wildcard team in the race.

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Speaker 1: I think the NFC is a lot like college football

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Speaker 1: where the Cowboys Niners in the Eagles, they'll figure it

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Speaker 1: out that there's just so much more talented. All the

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Speaker 1: other team are essentially like the Georgia's and Michigan's and

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Speaker 1: then everyone else is kind of buying, you know, for

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Speaker 1: spot four through seven, and we got Atlanta, Green Bay, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, Detroit. They're all kind of in that world.

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Speaker 1: You know, there'll one team may win a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: but I don't see any of those teams beating the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and definitely the Cowboys in the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, John Middlecoff, great stuff. Appreciate it, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring in Dave Wanstat tomorrow. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the Bears because I I really think it's

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Speaker 2: a I think it's gonna get really ugly talk radio.

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Speaker 2: Chicago's one of the last cities in America, Philadelphia, Boston,

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Speaker 2: New York where talk radio has influence. That is all

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Speaker 2: people are going to talk about for the next seventy

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Speaker 2: two hours. It's justin fields.

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Speaker 1: Well, could he could he get could he get benched?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes at some time this keeps going at this level,

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Speaker 1: you just ride it out.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll ride it out, but I think listen,

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Speaker 2: it's it's you know what happened?

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Speaker 1: John.

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Speaker 2: There's too much social media, there's too much video out there,

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Speaker 2: there's too much film. You have proof now. I went

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Speaker 2: before we came on tonight and looked up two different

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Speaker 2: he appears to be looking at them, and he won't

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Speaker 2: let it go. There's just too much out there that

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Speaker 2: works against him. Five and twenty two wide open receivers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Baker Mayfield looks so much better today than

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Speaker 2: justin fields. And again, talk radio is not the be

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Speaker 2: all end all, but everybody listens to it. In Chicago,

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