1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are continuing our 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: coverage of the war in Israel. In the past few days, 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: we've seen and heard some of the most depraved acts 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: of violence imaginable. Hamas terrorists invaded Israel to attack not 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: soldiers but civilians in the most horrific ways. We've all 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: seen the videos. We've watched the posts on social media 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: of Hamas terrorists paratroopers descending on a music festival filled 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: with unsuspecting young people. We've watched those young people running 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: from mad men's viewing bullets at them, and we know 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: they killed and kidnapped as many as they could from 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: that festival. We've seen the graphic photos of young children 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: and babies burned to death. We've heard reports of decapitation 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: of the most innocent of life, little babies, elderly murdered, 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: women taken hostage, women raped, children raped. These are barbaric acts, 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: and they're happening before our eyes. It is so unimaginable 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: to us, and yet we find the rate of anti 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: Semitic rhetoric online increasing over four hundred percent in this country. 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: We read the student letters from universities in support of Hamas. 21 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: If you go online today, you will see numerous posts 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: claiming the things I just spoke about never happened. We 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: knew we had to share the truth with you, and 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: to do that we wanted someone who is on the 25 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: ground in Israel. And I'm honored to be joined today 26 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: by former advisor to the former US Ambassador to Israel, 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: David Friedman and the author of the book Let My 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: People Know, Rabbi ariya am I saying I said that wrong, I. 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Gotta get it right, Okay, but it's very close. 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: Rabbi Lightstone, Rabbi, thank you so much for being here. 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 32 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how you made it through that introduction, 33 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: just for counting those words and the images that I 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: think go through all of our minds. As you say 35 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: that it's almost like reviewing a horror film than talking 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: about something that's happened in the. 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: Last five days. 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: It is, and honestly, am I think the biggest shock 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: to me is this anti Semitism that we're seeing that 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: we thought could not possibly exist, and certainly not in 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: young people. I think it's so shocking to me because 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: I am a part of Generation X, you know, and 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: we are the generation that I think one of the 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: last generations that really learned about the Holocaust, learned about 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: anti Semitism, learned about why this can never happen again. 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: And then we went into this generation where they started 47 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: to have this indoctrination and these other discussions. They started 48 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: to get away from talking about this. And man, we 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: have seen some really strange things coming out of universities. 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: What is it like for you to watch this coming 51 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: out of American universities. 52 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a lot to unpack there. I think 53 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: the first thing is context, which are so correctly alluding 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: to what we've seen in the last five days is 55 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: the worst status station that the Jewish world has felt 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: since the actual Holocaust, and that is from a context perspective. 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: You know, the slogan after the Holocaust that you learned 58 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: growing up, that I learned growing up, that was inculcated 59 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: my mind was never again. My step grandfather was a 60 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: survivor of Auschwitz. He was a hero, an incredible person, 61 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: and he took it upon himself to tell students in 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: high school andledge about his story of what Auschwitz was like, 63 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: and he began every recounting of his time during the Holocaust. 64 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: But the following thing, he said, all of you know 65 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: of the phrase seeing is believing, He said, that is 66 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: not true. I saw it, I lived through it, and 67 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: I don't believe that it happened. Because so many of us, 68 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: thank God, have this soul, and our soul is incapable 69 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: of comprehending the fact that somebody could decapitate a baby. 70 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Our soul is incomprehensive. It is incomprehensible for our souls 71 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: to believe that somebody would go through a music festival 72 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: and murder people while smiling. If you read the recounting 73 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: of the events, it wasn't the anger that they performed 74 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: these acs and it was the joy that they performed 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: these acson And that is just so horrendous. Now, at 76 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: that same time, I think you're hitting on something. 77 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: That's far more terrifying, which is the. 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: Fundamental question I've asked myself since I first heard my 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: step grandfather's stories when I was eight or nine. Where 80 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: was the rest of the world? Where were they? And 81 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: as I walk through in Dearborn, Michigan in New York City, 82 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: in Chicago, in LA and San Francisco and Sydney, Australia, 83 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: and you have forget our college campuses. 84 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to that a minute. 85 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: Actively cheering on rooting for Camas and when somebody is 86 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: rooting for Commas today. Look, maybe three weeks ago you 87 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: could have made a freedom fighter argument. It would have 88 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: been intellectually bankrupt, but you could have made that argument 89 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: in Okay, but within forty eight hours of a program 90 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: where I will say the horrific details because people need 91 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: to know the horrific details, but the raping of women 92 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 3: next to dead bodies and then killing them, decapitation of children, 93 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: the kidnapping of four year olds, the kidnapping of Holocaust survivors, 94 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: all these things, and then holding a rally in support 95 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: of those people. We share sidewalks with those people, We 96 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: go out to eat in the same restaurants as those people. 97 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: They could be our coworkers. 98 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Explain to me how your soul is compatible with that person. 99 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: It is unfathomable that we share the same air. 100 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: It has been shocking to me. I mean, you mentioned 101 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: dearborn Michigan, and obviously I campaigned for governor in this 102 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: state and we met people across the entire state, and 103 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: we met some families that I would tell you I 104 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: absolutely loved meeting them, and they had a lot of 105 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: the same conservative values as we do as Christians, as 106 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: you do as Jewish people, and our discussions were about 107 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: our children and the love that we have for our children, 108 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: wanting to keep our children safe. Some and I'm not 109 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: saying all, but some have reached out to me since 110 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: the campaign, since this, since this war began, and I 111 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: don't like calling I know Israel is at war, but 112 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: I want to be clear. This was an act of terrorism. 113 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: This was not an act of war. What Hamas did, 114 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: this is not war. This is sick and depraved and 115 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: it is unlike anything we've ever seen before. And yet 116 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 2: I've had these people reach out to me and say 117 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: you're dead to me, how could you come out on 118 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: the side of Israel? And I don't understand how you 119 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: could ever come out on the side of people who 120 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: go I can't even call them people, these monsters that 121 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: go in and shoot into a crowd of young people 122 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: and rape children. And I think that the you know people. 123 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: It's funny because I saw these posts online of women 124 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: who are like when how could we still have men 125 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: raping women at this point in the world. Haven't we 126 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: gotten past treating women like this? I'm like, well, that's 127 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: what you're seeing here. I mean, there are This is 128 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: so far beyond that. But that's where the mindset is 129 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: of so many young women and men in the United States, 130 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: because I think we've lived such privileged lives, such protected 131 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: lives that you can see one part and kind of go, 132 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: oh gosh, how can that happen? There are reasons that 133 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: they rape these women and then kill them because they 134 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: believe that once they are unclean, they will not go 135 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: to the Promised Land, they will not end up in heaven. 136 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: That it's exactly right. 137 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: This is not only was this an act of terror, 138 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: but really what it was not Israel's not a war. 139 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: We are now in the war of a civilization. And 140 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: I mean that in the truest forms. If you look 141 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: at Black Lives Matter in Chicago and you saw their 142 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: meme where it has BLM stands with Palestine coming down 143 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: on a paraglider. Now, the paraglider is what the terrorists 144 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: went on to kill people. And I like the fact 145 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: that they tweeted at that meme because I've always known 146 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: who they were, and now they're telling us that, which 147 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: is right. Rashida Tlieb your I don't mean to pick 148 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: on Michigan. I like Michigan, I really really do. But 149 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: your you know, venerated congresswoman was asked by an enterprising 150 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: Fox News reporter for seventy one seconds. I believe I 151 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: counted seventeen times. Do you have a comment on the 152 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: decapitation of children? That is not a politically sensitive topic 153 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: to ask about. I think we're all against decapitation of children. 154 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: Jewish children, non Jewish children were against that. I'm fairly 155 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: positive this was something that all Americans could rally around. 156 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: And she no comment? Did that? And this this war 157 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: of civilization? 158 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: If you no comment, which is sort of where I 159 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: was going to in the beginning, I now understand what 160 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: regular Germans were doing when the Nazis were around. This 161 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: was all it was, no comment, that's all the same comment. 162 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: That's right. But they're out there and they're saying exactly 163 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: what I said when I started this. These are not true. 164 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: These things did not happen. And I mean, I just 165 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: think back, gosh, we're seeing this, we're seeing history replay. 166 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: You know, we always say, history repeats itself if you 167 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: don't learn, and you think you've learned, But we stopped learning, 168 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: Like I said, we stopped learning because we stopped teaching 169 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: about the Holocaust, we stopped teaching about World War Two. 170 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: And so you see this and you go, man, oh 171 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: my gosh, this is how it happened. I see how 172 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: it happened because and now I think it's even more 173 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: you can see it play out in real time because 174 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: you have social media. You have people making these posts 175 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: and they're going, this is propaganda, this is not real. 176 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: And you see these young people and you're like, man, 177 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: I can see how you would have been converted to 178 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: the Nazi side because you see these young people going, 179 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: but they're right. They've been oppressed, they've had this this 180 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: these the Israelis have been horrible to them, and they're 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: somehow making it okay because there has been a conflict 182 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: for years between the two sides, which we know, they're 183 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: making it okay to go in and attack citizens, attack 184 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: regular people, attack babies. I mean, where how did we 185 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: get here? And how do we stop it? 186 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: So how do we stop it is probably the question 187 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: that we need to focus on. We'll spend look Israel 188 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: just commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of the home Keeper War, 189 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: which is the scariest time in Israel's history up until 190 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: two days ago, five days ago, and I remember reading an. 191 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Article just a week ago. 192 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: They're still doing the post action report on what went 193 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: wrong for the Homekeeper Ward to have gone as poorly 194 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: as it had gone. We'll spend the next fifty years 195 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: figuring out how five days ago happened. That doesn't bother me. 196 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: Other people will have a chance to do that. What 197 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: do we do now in. 198 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: Order to be able to restore I will call it 199 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: normalcy to the world. 200 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: And how do we find, you know, moments of humanity 201 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: in this So I want to share one moment of 202 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: humanity and then maybe talk a little bit about I 203 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: think how we can go forward the moment of humanity. 204 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: And I saw this clip yesterday and I get choked 205 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: up just thinking about it. So I put pardon me 206 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: if I'm moved. In one of the live streams of 207 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: the movie party, the music party, it had these police 208 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: officers who knew immediately that they were outgunned, who knew 209 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: immediately that they were out maneuvered, and who knew that 210 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: they were likely. 211 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Not to make it. 212 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: And I'd say that a normal rational human being would 213 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: figure out how to run away, right, It's called flight 214 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: or fight. And they took the civilians that they could, 215 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: mostly young men and young women, and stood in between 216 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: the terrorists and these people, giving him an extra couple 217 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: of seconds or minutes to be able to run away. 218 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: And they saved countless lives that way. And you saw 219 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: in the live stream their bodies riddled with as they 220 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 3: continued with their last dying breaths to usher the civilians 221 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: behind them. And if you look at the face of 222 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: the police officers, which I don't know whether I hope 223 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: that their parents are or their parents didn't see because 224 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: they're twenty four and twenty five and twenty six years old. 225 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: But how do you raise a child to be a hero, 226 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: How do you raise a child to have given so 227 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: much to other people because you put on a uniform, 228 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: That uniform doesn't make you superman, That uniform doesn't make 229 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: you superwoman. What was that about them that enabled them 230 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: to do that? So that's the glimmer of humanity that 231 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: you can see there and say, there's something so incredibly 232 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: godly about those people to have thought of other people 233 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: above themselves. We don't see nearly enough of that in 234 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: our times. And then look at the exact converse, the 235 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty degrees diametrically opposite. The people who 236 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: run Commas are sitting in Doha, Qatar the four seasons, 237 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: dining on whatever they're dining on, driving their Lamborghinis, eating 238 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: their luxury, whatever else it will be, while directing their 239 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: civilians to get in the way of the fighters. That way, 240 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: they become the first line of bomb fodder when Israel 241 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: appropriately strikes back against Gaza. How do you understand those 242 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: two one caring about human life and the other disregarding 243 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: it so blatantly that it's not called out. 244 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: And because of that we live in the post truth world. 245 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: Because somebody can point there and say, now Hamas is right, 246 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: Hamas isn't right. To be extremely clear, Kamas is a kleptocracy. 247 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: It is a bunch of thugs who run a mafia organization, 248 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: who steal money from the Europeans and the other Arab 249 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: countries in the name of ideology. 250 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: There's no ideology. 251 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: These guys are all frauds and they're all cowards, and 252 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: that's exactly what they are and anybody with a brain 253 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: can see that. So now let's get to the college campuses. 254 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: Because we spoke about people with a brain, So now 255 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: let's talk about people without a brain. Which is the 256 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Ivy League system of the United States of America. They 257 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: have not I've asked two people to do a study 258 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: on this. I'm curious how many of the universities put 259 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: out statements within one week of George Floyd's death, how 260 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: many of them put out statements, and what those statements said, 261 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: and how many of them put out statements about the 262 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: massacre of twelve hundred Jews, including twenty two Americans. And 263 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: there is not an equivalency in between that one hundred 264 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: percent of the universities put out statements about George Floyd, 265 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: a highly controversial circumstance, and roughly ten percent of them 266 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: put out statements about the massacre of twelve hundred Jews. 267 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: And I am I want to be honest about this. 268 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm pleased because I knew who they were, and now 269 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: the rest. 270 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Of the world knows who they are. They are frauds. 271 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: They do not teach kids morality, they do not teach 272 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: kids common sense, and they don't teach kids the difference 273 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: between right and wrong, and we should know that because 274 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: we're paying for that. We subsidize these systems, and we 275 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: live in this world where these elites tell us what 276 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: to do. 277 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: These elites are wrong. We know that they're wrong. Everybody 278 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: knows that killing babies is wrong. If they can't admit that, 279 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe now we can finally understand that they're wrong about 280 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: so many other things. 281 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 282 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, it's interesting because as you 283 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: listen to what these young people are coming out and saying, 284 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: and remember that when BLM became an organization, I think 285 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: it was during Obama's administration when we first started seeing BLM, 286 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: and they got in with the Teachers' Union, they got 287 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: in with our school systems, and they started having courses 288 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: that they were actually coming to our k through twelve 289 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: schools and talking to kids about this. And one of 290 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: the things they love to talk about is colonialism and 291 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: these colonists, and they they talk about Israel as these colonists, 292 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: and you've got to go against these people because they 293 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: are pushing the Palestinians out of their land and they 294 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: are keeping them in these open air prisons, and you know, 295 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: this is the conversations that were These are the conversations 296 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: we're hearing online. And you can go back to early 297 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: videos of the founder of BLM who is talking about 298 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: this that Israel is the colonists, this is the they 299 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: are the new slaves. This is and if they're saying 300 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: this on videos years ago out loud, then certainly they 301 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: were taking this into our schools. And now we see 302 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: this repeated, this rhetoric repeated, So I keep saying, gosh, 303 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: are we at a situation where we had kids that 304 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: went from learning to being indoctrinated to being radicalized, Because 305 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: now we see people angry like, yes, this should have happened, 306 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: and they are young American children who have never seen 307 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: any type of war or conflict or understood anything like 308 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: that in their lives. So when you hear these stories 309 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: of open air prisons and colonists and you know they 310 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: are the oppressors, what is your response to that? 311 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: The response is sort of making the same determination as 312 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: our schools try to indoctrinate kids to decide that a 313 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: boy can be a girl and a girl can be 314 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: a boy. You can say anything that you want, It 315 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: doesn't make it true. Gaza is not an open air prison. 316 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: Gaza has a border with Egypt as well. Why does 317 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: Egypt not open that border. 318 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Let's just ask that question. Today. 319 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: Israel has asked for all civilian gosms to retreat from 320 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: the battle area. It's a congested area. It's not an 321 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: open air prison by any stretch imagination. Egypt has closed 322 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: the door. Now I hope they changed their mind. They'll 323 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: save a lot of lives if they open that. But 324 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: why isn't Egypt have an obligation to open that door? 325 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: Where did all these rockets come from? Where did all 326 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: this weaponry come from? If it's an open air prison, 327 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: I will tell you exactly where it came from. Billions, 328 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: tens of billions of dollars going to Gaza. 329 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: They could go into building Gaza to look like Singapore. 330 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: It's got the nicest beach in the entire Mediterranean Ocean. 331 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: It could look like Singapore. 332 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: It's one hour drive south of Tel Aviv, the strongest 333 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: tech market in the world outside of Silicon Valley. It 334 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: could be a hub, the bridge in between Israeli tech innovation, 335 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: Western Europe and the Arab Gulf. 336 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: It could be that hub. It could be Hong Kong 337 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: to China what Hong Kong was when it was free. 338 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: It could be that, and instead it's a kleptocracy where 339 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: the leaders live in Katar, and the way they keep 340 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: cashing the check from the Europeans and the Arab nations 341 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: is by saying that their people are oppressed. 342 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far into. 343 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: The details, but why are they not responsible for that? 344 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: That? 345 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean sovereign nations have borders, maybe notre correct well, 346 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: but we see countries like Czech Republic, we I mean 347 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: Egypt is not opening their border. We see countries that 348 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: they have borders. They keep their borders strong because they 349 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: want to protect their sovereignty. And so you're telling me 350 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: that Egypt is doing this. Why are these leaders who 351 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: are in Qatar, Why are they not Why are they 352 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: not being held accountable for the poverty and for the 353 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: living conditions in their own where they control the area, 354 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: where they control the land across that border. 355 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: It's the bigotry of lowest expectations you could possibly imagine. 356 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: I remember when I worked for the Trump administration. There's 357 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: a determination that the Trump administration would stop funding UNRA, 358 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: which is the UN refugee relief organization, which essentially perpetuates 359 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: the problem. Every other refugee in the world from every 360 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: other crisis gets resettled. Only the Palestinians have perpetual refugee status, 361 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: which means that there is a doctor living in Beverly 362 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: Hills who still qualifies as a Palestinian refugee even though 363 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: their net worth is worth far more than myself and 364 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: most of the people who live in your entire state. Right, 365 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: this is somebody who is still qualifies as a refugee 366 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: on the official un refugee roster. 367 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: It's insane. It's a self perpetuating cycle. 368 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: It's the textbooks that come from UNRAH that have the 369 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: mathematical problem that says, if one Jihati can kill eight Israelis, 370 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: how many Jihadis do I need to kill thirty seven Israelis. 371 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: That's what they teach in math the third graders paid 372 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: for by Western governments, including ours. That's what we pay for. 373 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: We pay to teach hate. We pay in order to 374 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: exacerbate the refugee problem. And this is when we cut 375 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: off funding from UNRAQ. There was an assumption that other 376 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: countries who said UNRA is so critical, what's step up 377 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: and pay the money instead of the United States of America. 378 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: And shockingly enough, none of those other countries stepped up 379 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: to pay the money, because it turns out that America 380 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: is just the biggest sucker on the world stage. Ever, 381 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: so we don't pay the money, and then all of 382 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 3: the intelligence people come back and tell the President that 383 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: you know what will happen if UNRA is not funded 384 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: by the United States of America. The Palaestins will have 385 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: to kill Jews. Now, just understand what the option is. 386 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: I can go to school in a U unfunded school, 387 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 3: or I can kill a you. I can't open a lemonade, 388 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: stand right, I mean there's no there's no Do you 389 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: understand that the extremes of either I send you to 390 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: school to indoctrinate you to hate people, or you physically go. 391 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: Out and kill people. 392 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: Those are the only two options that the world has 393 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: for Palestinians. It is so embarrassing. Palastins are intelligent. Palistins 394 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 3: or bright. Palstins are ingenious. Palestinians are able to do 395 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: hard work and all of these wonderful things. 396 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: If we raise the bar. 397 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: One of the best things that Jared Kushner and David 398 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: Friedman did in President Trump's Deal of the Century that 399 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: came out January twenty, twenty twenty, said, we believe in 400 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: the Palace and people, even if your leaders do not, 401 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: and we would like you to come to the table. 402 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: Just do the following things. And it laid out ten 403 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: things that they needed to do to be treated like 404 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: regular people who would join a communic nation. And some 405 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: of them are pretty basic. Maybe don't have a law 406 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: where you get paid more money the more Jews that 407 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: you killed. That's a bad law in twenty twenty three. 408 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: It was a bad law in twenty twenty, right, and 409 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: that law is still on the books. 410 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: President. 411 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: I think that I want to go back to that 412 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: really quick, because I think that's the part that people 413 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: are missing. This is not a territorial dispute. This was 414 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: to kill Jews. This was their plan. This is about genocide. 415 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll tell you why I'm here. My kids 416 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: looked at me. We're Americans. We're not as ready. We 417 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: happen to be here. We came here to work for 418 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: President Trump. My kids are doing fantastically well in school, 419 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: so we kept them in the great schools so we 420 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: would continue to succeed. But we're Americans, we are not Israeli. 421 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: And my kids looked at me and said maybe we 422 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: should get on a plane and go to America. And 423 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: I turned to them and I said, please tell me 424 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: what you think happened this weekend. They said it was terrorism. Said, fantastic. 425 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: What is terrorism supposed to do. It's supposed to terrify 426 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: you said, we don't run from anything. Said, we are 427 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: here and we are strong. And the Israeli next to 428 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: me and the Israeli on the other side, they can't 429 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: go anywhere. They're not looking to go anywhere. What message 430 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: does it send if we leave. So we're here not 431 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: because we're brave and not because we're strong, but because, 432 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: like hello, were going to be intimidated by a bunch 433 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 3: of people who took paragliders and shot women while they 434 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: were sleeping. We're not going to that, which is why 435 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: I brought this evening my kids down to an army 436 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: base to meet. 437 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: Men. 438 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: They're not young men. These were all in their late 439 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: thirties early forties who will be going into Gaza when 440 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: the full scale ground operation happens. For my kids to 441 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: meet these people so they'll see that they are regular people. 442 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: A dentist, we met a doctor, we met a startup founder, 443 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: we met two physical therapists, and my kids schmoozed with them. 444 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: They spoke to them and found out that they've got 445 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 3: kids at home waiting for them to come home, and 446 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 3: their dads and their brothers and their fathers. And they're 447 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: good people who the only thing they want is to 448 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: protect their wives and their children and their parents. And 449 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: I told my kids, they do not care whether you're Jewish. 450 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: They do not care if you voted for right. They 451 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: do not care if you voted for left. The concept 452 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: of never again after the Holocaust is one that they've 453 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: signed up for. And they asked me to give them 454 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: a little speech, and I said, I can't give you 455 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: a pep talk. You've given me a pep talk. The 456 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: entire purpose of being that I have right now has 457 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: been elevated because I drove two and a half hours 458 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: to drop off some kevlar bests. 459 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: I really feel, you know, these. 460 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: Are These are the people who want to stand in 461 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: the way of bad people, stop bad people from getting 462 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: to good people, and the enemy on the other. 463 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: Side is exactly Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll 464 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast, what is it 465 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: like on the ground there so many families have lost 466 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: so much, but you sound so positive about staying and 467 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: being together. We see people leaving the United States just 468 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: to go join on the front line. So what's the 469 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: attitude like on the ground. 470 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: Well, the five days feels like five years at this 471 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 3: point in time. Saturday and Sunday felt not like nine 472 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 3: to eleven. I was in New York City on nine 473 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: to eleven, and I remember just feeling bewildered and lost 474 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: and directionless. And maybe it was nine thirteen, it might 475 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: have taken us to nine fourteen. And I'm like, we're America, 476 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna be fine. We got we got punch. But 477 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: my goodness, have they awoken somebody that they did not 478 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: want to wake? And you remember the George Bush line 479 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: when you know he stood there at the at the wreckage, 480 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: and when George Bush threw at that first pitch during 481 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: the World Series, there was just this feeling of unbelievable. 482 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Erica's back, Israel's beck. 483 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: Here's something that everybody needs to know because it's going 484 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: to be a really rough couple of weeks. In terms 485 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: of messages, They're going to be palaceding in children who 486 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: are going to die in Gaza. They're palaced in children 487 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: who have already died in Gaza. They're going to be 488 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: innocent women who are going to. 489 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Die in Gaza. 490 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: There are already innocent women who have died in Gaza. 491 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Let me be exceptionally feared to everybody who listens and 492 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: cares what I am going to say. On October sixth, 493 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: the day before this massacre, not a single one of 494 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: them were in jeopardy. Not a single one of them 495 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: had a bad life because of Israel. Any oppression that 496 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: they had was because of their theocratic, kleptocratic leaders living 497 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: off the lamb and Lamborghinis in four seasons in Doha. 498 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: That's not an Israel issue, That's a them issue. After 499 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: this massacre was perpetrated, Israel has one choice, and one 500 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: choice only in the Middle East. You can be strong 501 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: or you can be dead. Israel discovered what happens when 502 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 3: it fell asleep at the wheel dead the Holocaust. Never again, 503 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: Israel will restore deterrence because the last time this happened 504 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: was fifty years ago, Young Kipore War. The will of 505 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: the Israeli people today is not to buy fifty years 506 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 3: of quiet, to buy five hundred years of quiet, and 507 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: Israel will go with the vengeance that has not been 508 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: seen in at least fifty years in the Middle East 509 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: in order to deter anybody else from ever trying this again. 510 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: And those of us who are on the side of 511 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: good will understand and support and root for Israel's complete 512 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: and total success. And that doesn't make us less human, 513 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: because in our hearts we will cry for the fact 514 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: that there are innocent Palestinians who will die and be 515 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: injured and have a difficult life because of their leadership. 516 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: None of this has to do with Israel. All of 517 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: this has to. 518 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Do with their lifeleadership. 519 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say that, because as I was 520 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: watching this unfold, I was thinking that what you just 521 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: said would be the same reaction here in America, that 522 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: Americans would come together. We've been torn apart for several 523 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: years now by party, but within party, I mean, it 524 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. There have been people on different sides of issues, 525 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: and I thought this will be the time when everybody 526 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: says it's time to come together and take care of 527 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: this and make sure that we support our allies. And 528 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: I think we've even seen. I mean, you talked about 529 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: Rashida Talib. We've seen we saw even here in Michigan, 530 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: Governor Gretchen Whitmer struggled with the first message that she 531 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: put out, and I know you commented on that, and 532 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: I think that I look at that, and I think, 533 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: where did our leadership go? How did the country that 534 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: is the leader of the free world end up with 535 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: leaders who waffle, who don't know how to respond? And 536 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: I think that we talked about the this generational crisis 537 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: where young people haven't learned, and I think that our 538 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: leaders are putting their messages in the hands of young 539 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: people who are just getting out of college. And you know, 540 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I look at Michigan and a few weeks ago, 541 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: the governor had a big Twitter campaign on Barbie and 542 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: that went over really well. Everybody loved it. It was fantastic. 543 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: You know, how cute that she has this Whitmer Barbie 544 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: going everywhere when it came to this message, because I 545 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: believe it's because she is close to these communities, whether 546 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: it is the teachers' union or the universities. But also 547 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: her staff is like, oh no, we can't say that 548 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: we're with Israel, and so she put out this message 549 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: that was so obtuse, you know, like we couldn't even 550 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: tell what she meant. We don't know what she was 551 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: talking about at first. How do we get leadership back 552 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: in the United States. 553 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, two comments on that. Number one is it's not 554 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: my job to poke give people. I really root for 555 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: all Americans When my kids and I wake up every morning, 556 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: we hope that Joe Biden will be the greatest president 557 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: in the history of the world, because that'll be good 558 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: for America. And I'm fine being wrong, I really am. 559 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: As long as America is winning, it doesn't need to 560 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: be r or d. So far I have not been right. 561 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: Those prayers have not yet been answered. Although all credit 562 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 3: President Biden. Since this massacre, he has given the correct speech, 563 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: and he's brought the carriers into the Mediterranean. And I 564 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: hope that he'll continue to be strong because I root 565 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: for people living over me winning elections, which is fine. 566 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: I really really do hope that that's the case for 567 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: Governor Whitmer. You know, we spent time in Israel. She 568 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: knows the issues. It's not like she doesn't know the issues. 569 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: And to have a tweet that can't choose him between 570 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: good and evil. To me is just disappointing because that's 571 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: not a leader, that's a politician. 572 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: And while we're. 573 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: On this particular issue or follow up tweet, should not 574 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: have gotten her out of hot water. To recognize that 575 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: Israelive suffering is fine. To not call out the evil 576 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: that caused the suffering is like a cancer doctor treating 577 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: the symptom but not the disease. You wouldn't go back 578 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: to that cancer doctor again because they won't save you. 579 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: If you can't call out the disease, then you can't 580 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: address it. And that's the difference between leadership and politicians. 581 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: We have a lot of politicians who are very quick 582 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: to pull test what something will say. We have very 583 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: few leaders who are willing to say something because it's 584 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: the right thing for the country and or their state, 585 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: or their city, or their school board. Look at the 586 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: school boards. These are being fought on the most loafual basis. 587 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: And this is why I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic because I 588 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: think for quite a while many of us got complacent. 589 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: We've done well, many of us financially, we are comfortable. 590 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: Many of us we are okay, and we were letting 591 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: other people run our country. And I think we sat 592 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: there and said, wait, this direction is not the country 593 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: that I want to raise my kids. And I don't 594 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: want a girl in my pardon me, I don't want 595 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: a boy in my girl's bathroom. I don't want you 596 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: whatever else. It would wind up being taught to my 597 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: kids that because they're white, they're bad kids. I don't 598 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: want people being taught anything because they're specific race. I 599 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: want my kids learning about World War two. I want 600 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: all of these things. So it starts at the school board, 601 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: it starts at the cities, and then it goes to 602 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: the states and into the federal government. It's going to 603 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: take a long time to change the leadership structure. 604 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. 605 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: You are a spectacular example of the leadership that this 606 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: country needs because you come at things from a fresh 607 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: perspective and you're willing to say the truth. 608 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: President Trump. 609 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: One of the reasons why I think he will be 610 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: one of the most successful presidents of my lifetime is 611 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: because it came from the non political class. He was 612 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: able to call things out from what they were. Was 613 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: he perfect, of course, not what a human being is perfect, right, 614 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: but he saw things differently. The way Middle East piece 615 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: happened was because there wasn't an attempt to do things 616 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: the same way over and over again and expect a 617 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: different result. So I'm optimistic that that's caused a sea change, 618 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: and that sea change hurts. 619 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: It really really does hurt. But we'll get through it. 620 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: Because it's America and it's the greatest country in the 621 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: history of the world, and will somehow figure it out. 622 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Well, we will figure it out as long as we 623 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: have voices like yours. And we are so honored that 624 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: you joined us today and talked about this, and I 625 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: know that you. I just want you to know that 626 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: all of us who are here that are watching this 627 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: are just so impressed with you and your family and 628 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: that resolved to say we're not running. We're not going 629 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: to let them scare us. I mean, that's what the 630 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: American spirit is. You don't run, you stay. And the 631 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: fact that you said that it just means so much 632 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: to me. So, Rabbi Aria Lightstone, we are so pleased 633 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: to have had you on today and talk to you 634 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: about this. It is just an honor to have had 635 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: your time today. 636 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: Now the honor is mine. 637 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 3: Am I allowed to leave one last message for anybody 638 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: watching or listening, if you're on if you're on the 639 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 3: side of good and not on the side of evil. 640 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 3: So I'm just going to ask you to do two 641 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 3: things if you don't mind, actually three things. One is 642 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 3: prey there. This is precarious time for all people in Israel. 643 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: It's a local call, but. 644 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: If you're in America, it's a long distance call, and 645 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: that's fine. You should pray from. 646 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: There also, so so you know, do your best. 647 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: The prayers help, and the prayers resonate, and the people 648 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: here feel those prayers. 649 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: The second is. 650 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: The Israel will win when the United States stands with it. 651 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: Call your congress people, call your senators, call your president. 652 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: Do something. 653 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: Be uncomfortable. There are people here. I was at the 654 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: front lines literally an hour ago. They are uncomfortable there. 655 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: If you want to stand with good against evil, be uncomfortable. 656 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: Do something more. If you would normally send an email, 657 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: go to the office. You would normally go to the office. 658 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 3: Insist that you see the member themselves. If you normally 659 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: see the member of themself, go to an rally. Do 660 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: something that makes you uncomfortable, to say, battle in between 661 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: good and evil. You can't relax. You can't sit on 662 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: the side. And the final thing is is do something 663 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 3: today in memory of those people who are not here today, 664 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: something else that you wouldn't normally do something in Judaism 665 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: is called a mixa. In our conservative things, it's called 666 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: the value. Do something that would that makes this world better, 667 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: because the world got darker. So bring some light to 668 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: the world. It will mean an enormous amount coming from here. 669 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: So thank you so much for giving me the opportunity 670 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: just to share a little bit about what I've been experiencing. 671 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: I really appreciate. 672 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: Well, I just I feel like I have to add 673 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: a little bit to that because you're saying be uncomfortable, 674 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: so meaningful to me. We got a call from a 675 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: very close relative who is Jewish and her daughter is 676 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: in a situation where all of her friends are having 677 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: to put away their necklaces and anything that signifies that 678 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: they are Jewish. And this is in Florida. And when 679 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: you are uncomfortable, you protect those little kids. I think 680 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 2: that is so important across the world right now, little 681 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: kids are putting away their Star of David because they 682 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: are so afraid of someone knowing that they are Jewish. 683 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: Because we're seeing so much anti semitism today, so I 684 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: like that be uncomfortable. 685 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. 686 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: And thank you all for joining us on the Tutor 687 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 2: Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go to Tutor 688 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: dixonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe right there, or you 689 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: can check out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 690 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts and join us the next time. 691 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: Have a blessing.