WEBVTT - Thomas Calabro 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.480 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.480 And Daphnews and Niga an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:22.119 He was so excited he's here. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.760 How he Michael, I have to share something adorable before 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.200 we start. I signed in after Thomas. And when Thomas 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:32.919 wrote the sign and sheet, it said why are you here? 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:33.840 And he wrote for fun? 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:39.199 Yeah, Well, we don't wreck it for you. It was 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:39.880 his objective. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:40.240 We'll see. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.760 We won't bring up too many bad memories. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.360 If you, if any, we will be grateful. We're grateful 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:47.360 for any memories at this. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.400 Point because we're finding that it wasn't meant to be 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.680 a memory test. It was really meant to be like 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.800 going down memory lane, but it's turned into be a 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:56.680 memory test for all. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.200 Of this well because of the age that we all are. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.120 But what we did do for you, which we I 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.480 don't think we did as much for the others as 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.360 we asked fans for their questions get out of here. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.040 Yeah, there's a lot of questions. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.800 You like Thomas him a lot. We don't really know 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.680 anything about that time. We better get questions. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.800 We're gonna wind out everything about you. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.200 Yeah, we just want to know what we ask everyone, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.039 which is the. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.559 Audition the audition, right, Okay? 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:26.919 Good? 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:33.160 So for me it was it was my fifteenth network 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.600 test after the first series which was two years previous, 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.199 which was which was Dreams Street. So you remember thirty something, Yes, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:46.559 the same executive producers Edswick and Marshall. Wow, I forgot 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:51.080 your last name exactly, So that's why I fumble that. Anyway, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:52.559 So I was on the map and I was going 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.280 back and forth. I was doing a lot of directing 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.240 in New York, but I was running out of money 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.880 directing and doing plays for nothing there and producing, and 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:06.160 so I kept flying back and forth. And then they 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.960 wanted me to go to network for this show, for 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.160 what's the show? We are on melrose Place, And I 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.040 booked a commercial and I literally said, I won't do it. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.080 I have to do the commercial because that's guaranteed National 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.520 Networking to make me thirty k for at least, so 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.519 I'm not going. And then they said we'll pick you 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.760 up at lunch and bring out They did, and I 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.960 remember that year they were doing a lot of musical shows. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.640 I don't know, yeah, you remember they because something was 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.840 some movie was popular with musical instruments. Anyway, I was 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.120 walking down the I think it was in Aaron Spellings, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.200 and I walked by everybody waiting to audition, walked right 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.200 into the room, read left, and found out later on 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:53.240 the shoot that they booked me. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:55.160 Why are you. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.440 Shooting the commercial? You found out? 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.000 Yeah, I went back to finish shooting and. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.720 Yeah, that's when they she didn't have to do a 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.079 song and dance. Sounds like it wasn't like part of that. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.560 I did, not singing and dancing. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.640 No, but you had a scene they had read. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:09.040 Yeah, I don't remember. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.079 What did they have you read with Josie Nope? 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.560 Really anyone? 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.480 Susan Edelman, I think it was right. She was our 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:17.680 casting direct person. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.720 Oh so you never got mixed and matched with anybody? 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.519 No, no, never. And here's the thing. When Susan called 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.000 me the audition for Michael Mancini and I read the script, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.079 I went, I don't want to I want to do 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.919 that Billy roll, and she went, shut up, you're too 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:35.080 old to be playing Michael. Yeah. So that's how I 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.960 end up reading for Michael manci who was pretty boring 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.920 the first year, you know what I mean? Maybe? 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.720 Yeah, only the first year because I. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.000 Was thirty three and Joe was twenty, So you're talking 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.720 to Grant about like Jenny and that, you know, age difference. Yeah, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.360 and how inappropriate it was. I think we were more inappropriate. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.480 Yeah, well she was legal, though at least she was legal. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.880 I thought I thought Jens legal. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.040 Didn't realize. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.240 You are the oldest. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.040 One of the things we noticed in watching the early 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.280 episodes that's hilarious is that Josie's constantly trying to get 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:13.960 you to pay attention to her and make out with her, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.680 and you're like, oh, I'm too busy. We're like, have 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:17.280 you seen her? Do you remember that? 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.240 Look? Josiet most beautiful woman ever to walk into a 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:22.960 makeup trailing. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.839 Exactly need to do anything, for sure? 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.839 Remember, But Michael Man, did you found ways to avoid 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:32.400 her all the time? 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:32.960 Sorry? 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.000 We got three women, one question at a time. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.680 You start, Did you notice that that she was in 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.440 the writing that you never gave her enough attention? We're 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.719 on episode eight or nine now, and like you're barely 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.480 giving her attention because she's about to have a baby. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.359 You know, no, I didn't, because I always you know, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.200 I fall in love with my character and then I 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.000 make everything he does the best thing he can do, 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.240 and he was doing the best he could given his 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.839 schedule as a medical student. Yeah, I mean that was 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.599 our arc for the first season. Yeah, right, basically I'm 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.800 too busy to pay attention to the relationship. Yeah, did 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.280 someone else question it? 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:13.400 No, that was it? 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.120 And then do you remember when it changed? 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.159 Yes? Doesn't everybody know what it changed? I think it 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.520 was pretty clear to me that the whole show changed 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.360 when they brought Heather in. Yeah. We went from kind 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.080 of soap operas, kind of real life to over the edge. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:31.279 Well, it was very. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.720 Sweet watching the first episodes. Like we talk a lot 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.800 about the structure, it was a very traditional structure. There 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.640 were two sort of related storylines, but it really was 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.719 eight nice kids trying to make it. Yeah, every single script. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.800 So it was maybe the first thirteen. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.240 Marcia did a guest star as your coworker on thirteen. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.520 I came in fifteen. Heather came after that. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:58.160 But my question to your question is do you remember 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:02.000 just playing it. Was it like a sudden thing or 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:06.320 was it subtle? These changes kind of like because I 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.760 know you had an affair with you know, the Kimberly 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:10.520 and all that. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.160 But in season one. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:18.000 Seven marriages, five women twice with Joe and twice with Laura. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:18.800 That's hysterical. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.040 Did you have seven marriages on the show? 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:21.560 That's right. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.200 I love that. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.280 Buddy in the last episode could have gone so far. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.520 So here let me tell you though, I think it's 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.640 pretty interesting, is that Marsha and I at the end 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.000 of thirteen, or when she first came on the end 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.400 of the first season, we decided to make a choice 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.920 when we were working on a scene together where I 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.560 was explaining my Marriagabal problems to her. She was my confidante, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.320 you know, at work, and we decided to do a 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:56.159 couple of takes flirtatiously. I found out later the producers 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.919 picked up on that, but the network didn't want to 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:03.240 go with that, right, so they didn't take those They 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.320 didn't air those choices. But we thought it would be 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.760 fun and we thought it might maybe could go somewhere. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.560 But because I was we were the staid couple, everybody 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.480 looked up to it and went to a for advice, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:18.600 you know, and the network said, no, we can't do that, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.000 And then the next season they changed their mind, and 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.080 that was the first affair. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.600 Interesting because that was right around thirteen, which is the 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.280 original order. So there was an order for thirteen episodes 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.640 that at some point they weren't you know, you guys 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.240 were waiting. I wasn't there, but so I hear those 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.240 guys were waiting for your pickup for the back nine. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.520 We went later, we went more than thirteen, but we 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:38.640 were finishing. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.200 Out the season because I planned the marriage that I 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.840 had a delay with Liz until afterwards. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.760 Because they had a real marriage. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.200 Oh yes, the real And then so Marsh's character Kimberly 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:54.120 came in around thirteen, and then I think that's totally 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.600 when the whole show started to have that sort of 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.800 graduate show. But it's so interesting that you triggered that 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.520 specifically with that storyline. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.680 I wouldn't say that I think they saw the potential 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.720 I did. I think it was a better match for 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.200 all the talents, you know, to do that. Obviously it 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:14.640 was right because it turned out to be great for 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.400 all of us. I just think it fit better. I 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.640 think they were going for something, but it wasn't quite 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.080 working right. We were low rated. I mean, we weren't 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.960 doing great. And then Heather comes on. That's because of 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.320 her history in business, you know, she brought that with 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.080 her and we kind of it became we all jumped 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:33.760 on the same train. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.200 Yeah, well because the writers made us made this new train, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.520 because they saw what was happening with the matings. And 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.920 even before Heather came on, I know, Amy left and 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.480 then you started to change, and I feel and then 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.320 she came on and just took it off. I think 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.880 it was really smart of the writers obviously, Yeah, but 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.080 I was just curious because because I looked, I looked 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.400 ahead a little bit and I saw you know you 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.360 and Marsha. It wasn't it was later is in the 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.000 twenties in the episodes, So you guys were already bad 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:06.800 because Heather. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:07.480 Came in nineteen. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.199 I think that's when I come in. You come in nineteen. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.720 You inta was already with us, right. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.040 I don't think so. I think so I came in 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.600 for nineteen and twenty and like my character was stirring 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.880 it up a little bit too, like panting that seed, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:25.520 like because of the sister. Yeah, Like, and then I 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.960 didn't stay. But right after is when Heather comes. Yeah, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.679 and that sort of that tonal shift kind of was there. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:34.280 Yes, stay. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.520 It was during the first season, yeah, but it was 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.800 like halfway through the first season was like a gradual 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.720 working in, and then they brought in this ultra villain. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.040 I think they really felt like the show needed a villain, 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.239 and it was Heather. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.760 So broad Heather in in twenty one. You ended up 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.560 doing thirty three that first season, so they must have 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.960 known and they started shifting because you had brought in 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.760 like an edge of your energy that you brought in 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.520 different energies. So we're already sort of moving in that direction. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.679 So I guess what we're are saying. We love you 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.640 and your memory, but it's a little off. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.000 My mind. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.280 We didn't bring you into correcting. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.000 Part of the engine of the new train. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:15.280 You. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.480 Yes, Heather came on, but the train was always already 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.480 moving in a new direction, and that was that was you. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.560 Tomas. I never I'm not sure when he showed up 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.400 at the station, but you're anyway. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.599 So I think I know the answer to this. Was 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.520 it more fun to play Michael good guy work in 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.840 his hardest or Michael bad guy never knew what he 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:34.320 was going to do? 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.080 Question? I've been asked no less than five million. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.840 Times, but tell the truth, no answer this. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.760 Would you rather be a reactive character or inactives? 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.400 As simple as you guys are fun. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.760 Instead of getting slapped across the face, I'd rather do 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.600 this slap. Yeah. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.680 So do you have any again not a memory test. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.720 Do you have any favorite storylines or like favorite eras 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:56.680 of what Michael did? 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.120 Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question too, when I've been 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:00.959 asked and you know, first thing that comes up with 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.280 you me and Jacket. You know that I forgot the 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:05.800 namn name of it, but you know what I'm talking. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.840 There was an office it was something. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:16.640 Burns the reception, So that was one thing. Breaking up 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.840 with Marshall was always fun to do because I was 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:25.400 just so abusive. It's terrible, just terrible everyone. Yeah, but 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.160 you know, I have to say I never had an 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.560 un fun day at work. I always loved it. Oh, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.920 it was always an absolute pleasure. I'll never forget Josie, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.480 Like season two or three, she's like, oh thank god, 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.319 I only have two scenes this episode. You guys are right. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.800 She like every close up on the end of the day. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:49.520 She had all her every time. I'm so surprised you 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.679 didn't say, can you just do this without me? But 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.679 I really tried to embrace everything they gave me, no 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.280 matter how crazy preposterous it was because. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.280 Your background is theater. You came from New York, you're 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.640 living in New York. You did theater, you directed, I 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.760 think theater. You I know that you went to Fordham, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.160 you understudied Denzel Washington. You know, you did Shakespeare, and 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:14.680 I remember this part of you. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.040 So I remember. Then you come to hear and you're 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.040 on this hit show. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.280 And it's like the opposite of you know, Shakespeare or 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:22.720 a play. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.120 I mean, actually it's kind of it's kind of pop. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.520 Shakespeare up to popcast. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.760 It's kind of sort of like in the Iago he 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:30.720 did write every scene three. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.640 Times and we did the same scene. Yeah, yes, over there. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.439 I'm just wondering what that was like. And for you 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:37.719 as an actor. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.320 You know, it's this thing. I don't think of it 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.319 that way, you know, Like I said, I fall in 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.120 love with every script I read that I'm going to do, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.800 and I fell in love with this. And we had 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.480 such a great situation, the fact that we're all sitting 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.280 down and laughing about what we did thirty years ago. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.760 It was a good the cast, the crew, I mean, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.160 it was golden. It took me a while to get 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.000 used to the business in Court and he knows this 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.520 better than anybody. I was not good to be around. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.800 When we were doing publicity, I thought it was stupid, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.560 miserable who needs this work? Speaks for itself? Because I 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.360 was an actor from the theater in New York. Not 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:17.560 an unusual you know pattern there. But once, you know, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.000 I think it was about the second year, I thought, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.120 what are you doing, Collaboro. You love doing this show, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.720 and you're making it harder for you to continue doing 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.400 it because Spelling's going to blow you out of here. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.680 Remember he wanted the one of us all to like, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.480 you know, say happy birthday to the Japanese Emperor woman 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.160 or somebody. And I was like, I'm not doing that, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.520 and I never forget the whole crew came over and 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.480 came over and surrounded me and said, Thomas, we want 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.880 you to stay on the show, so will you go 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.000 please do that? And I started getting me thinking, what 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.920 am I doing? Say happy birthday? Who cares if you 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.079 know him or not? You know? Or Tracy help? No, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.400 not Tracy help, Missy. You know I made her life 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.040 a little too miserable. I'm apologizing to you right. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.439 Friend, tell her I'll text her right now. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:02.920 Apologize on you. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.680 Remember when Grant was on the show. Remember we were 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.560 shooting the opening credits on Melrose Avenue at Johnny Rockets 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:14.200 and he almost got in a fight with somebody, so. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.400 He was very reasonable fighter. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.200 Con right, she was Queen Chad McQueen and he came 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.800 up on a motorcycle and they were like rumbling during 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.960 our photo. Yeah, completely forgotten as life imitates art. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.560 Yes, I don't have any recollection. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:39.440 So I have a question. There was a reunion magazine 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:40.720 shoot that we did. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:41.760 What was that two. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.480 Thousand and nine, ten eleven, twelve something? While right, it 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.840 was about at least ten years ago and you didn't 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.120 join us? Was that? 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.600 Like was that were you still sort of in this dress? 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.480 Were you still and if it's if you don't want 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.360 to answer, you don't have to either, but like was 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.160 that you like were you unavailable or whatever? Like we 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.840 missed having it? Like that was I think when I 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:05.520 why did you? 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.160 Yeah, like, okay, I'll tell you why I didn't do 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.440 it because I didn't think about seeing all you guys 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.520 together and having that kind of fun that would have 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.520 made it attractive to me. And I regret it, you know, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.080 like I do, I just do. I told my wife 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.640 you know later shit, when you guys call me from dinner, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.760 I was like, oh, flip, I didn't use that word, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.520 but you know, I shoot, you know that I should 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.640 have gone what am I doing? But I'm not into 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.520 looking back that much, you know what I mean. I'm 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.160 kind of done. So when it comes to they want 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.800 to do interviews, I turned down, I think pretty much 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.920 all of it because I'm like, oh, do you want 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.800 to talk about this? I'm not really I'm not interested. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.960 You know what The shift is though for me, Like 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.240 I had the same thought. But it's fun to talk 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.440 about that time in our lives, like it was our 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.880 twenties too, I think your early thirties. You said you 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.960 were thirty then, so it is our twenties and thirties two, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.680 and we're all together doing this thing in this time 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.960 in our life. So that's what's been really fun remembering 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.840 that time, the nineties and what we were doing in 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.920 that crazy time. And we had such an exceptional thing 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.880 because we were out in the middle of nowhere. Remember 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.479 hanging out in the production office between scenes. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:16.760 It's so rare. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.760 That casts and crews would hang out between scenes, but 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.840 we did because we were It was almost like we're 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.840 on location because we're out in Stanley Creta in the 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.840 middle of nowhere, like you would golf all the time 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:32.360 with the crew guys right like you car would drive away. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.400 We were so close. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:34.480 I think that's really rare. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.320 It is, and that's that's why I say, for I'd 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.000 miss seeing you guys, but doing a photo shoot for 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.640 People magazine, I'm not interested. Yeah, I'm just not for. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.440 That entertainment weekly. But it was super. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.120 You were so for me. That's all the same magazine. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.640 But now think about it, if it comes up again, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.640 just think of it. That's background for all of us 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:56.360 getting together. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.040 Probably You're absolutely right, Like we've said it a million times. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.120 We feel so lucky that the group of us were. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.120 It was just such a nice and magical time and 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.439 looking back on it now has been so fun, like 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.080 especially through the podcast and everything and these you know, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.000 random reasons for a reunion. It's just such a great 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.760 excuse to get together and like revisit the friendships. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.680 But I am curious because he has an answer. Your 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.879 answer was you don't look back, you don't like to. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.880 Is that in general, Thomas, is that kind of like 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.399 just with life in general? 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.360 Forget the show. I'm just curious or if is it. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.919 You know about a career thing that you did too 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.320 long ago or what is that? 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.159 No, No, I don't know what to know. It's just 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.760 who I am, you know. I just like, like, what 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.600 the heck, it's all that's done stuff, And you know, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.720 I like to wake up early in the morning and 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.080 enjoy the day. You know, what do you do? 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.920 What is a day like with Thomas? 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.040 I mean not with Tom, not with you, but as 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.320 you like, what are you up to now? 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.520 Yeah, I mean if you got the house and ocean 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.240 side on, working on I'm working on the house over here, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:11.200 you know, visiting with my children. I'm playing tennis, doing yoga. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.439 Oh you are some love us traveling. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.399 We travel a lot. We enjoy traveling a ton. And 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.400 occasionally I get a call and I do with put 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.240 a little project four episodes of this or six episodes 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.680 of that or something like that. Yeah, but I don't 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.000 want to It's like more like a paid hobby now 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.280 than anything. I'm just not as interested as I used 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.680 to be well doing it, pursuing it. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:33.560 Yeah. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.200 I even think, first of all, series don't work like ard. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.600 You'd never do thirty two or thirty three episodes again, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.760 like people are lucky to get eight or ten episodes. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.200 But I physically couldn't do it. Like we worked ten 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.680 and a half months a year, fourteen to sixteen hours 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.560 a day. I couldn't do that anymore. I remember Deborah A. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.520 Dair coming to Deborah Dare coming and it was like 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.440 five in the morning, and I was like, oh, I'm exhausted. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.879 She goes, but you're twenty. It doesn't show and I 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:02.000 was like what And I'm like, oh, now, now, I. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.880 Totally I totally agree the energy and stuff, but you 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.480 look really fit and you're do you have this is 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.000