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Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, and welcome to the final edition of Colts

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Speaker 3: Roundtable Live, our full hour Colts breakdown every Monday night

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Speaker 3: of the regular season. Obviously, this will be our last

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Speaker 3: and tonight's show airs until seven pm. We've we've got

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Speaker 3: Coming up in just a few moments, we'll hear from

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Speaker 3: Colts owner and CEO Carly urse Gordon as she held

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Speaker 3: a press conference earlier today announcing that Colts General Manager

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Speaker 3: Chris Ballard and head coach Shane Steikin will return for

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth season. This comes after the Colts

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Speaker 3: concluded the season on Sunday with the loss in Houston

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Speaker 3: that dropped their record to eight and nine. It was

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Speaker 3: also the team's seventh straight loss to end the season.

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Speaker 3: The Colts will miss the playoffs for the fifth straight year.

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Speaker 3: Ballard will enter his tenth year as Colts GM, while

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Speaker 3: Steichen will be in his fourth year as the team's

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Speaker 3: head coach. As we all know, Sunday was the conclusion

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Speaker 3: of a very disappointing season for the Colts. They started

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Speaker 3: the NFL's top scoring offense. They also had the lead

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Speaker 3: and that also coincided with the Jaguars and Texans not

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Speaker 3: games to end the year. Both of those franchises make

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Speaker 3: the playoffs in twenty twenty five. The Colts were also

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Speaker 3: as we all know, notably quarterback Daniel Jones, Sauce Gardner,

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Speaker 3: As relates to Sunday, Rookie quarterback Rightley Leonard started the

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Speaker 3: give Jacksonville the AFC South title. Alec Pierce had a

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Speaker 3: Ballard and Shane's siking and now the team progresses in

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Speaker 3: the off season. Now with the full attention onto the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty sixth season, To.

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Speaker 4: Our fans, my sisters and I want to extend our

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Speaker 4: heartfelt gratitude for your loyalty and support as always, but

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Speaker 4: particularly this season, you're right to be frustrated with how

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Speaker 4: We experienced a lot of progress, which gives us optimism

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Speaker 4: a team. Then adversity struck. But no matter what the

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Speaker 4: Chris will continue as our general manager and Shane will

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Speaker 4: have been very clear with Chris and Shane that giving

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Speaker 4: At the same time, there were moments during the season

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Speaker 5: You've seen the sense of urgency. Does it come with

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Speaker 6: Or how did you I mean, what do you expect

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Speaker 4: So I've been a sense of urgency. Yes, is certainly

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Speaker 4: Which complexity is because.

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Speaker 6: There's a there's a decision. The decision, it sounds like,

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Speaker 6: there's also just an overall Chris's kate nine years of

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Speaker 4: So I would say so even it all plays into

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Speaker 7: Carl James Ward the ATLA, where do you think this

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Speaker 4: So I think that what we s based on what

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Speaker 4: we had, Like I said, the tale of two seasons,

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Speaker 4: what we saw on that first half is we were

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Speaker 4: I believe in the team.

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Speaker 7: R I hope you stay opiers.

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Speaker 3: Year or dead.

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Speaker 4: Uh well, I think I think the hope is always

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Speaker 4: You know that's on Chris and Shane to you be

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Speaker 6: Hardly a uh very both as well.

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Speaker 5: Everything about this year for you live you know airsprit,

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, like I said, I'm I'm pissed, and

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Speaker 4: I think as we evaluate it, we're going right back

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Speaker 6: Kevin felling on some about how much did I guess

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Speaker 6: And you don't you go out too for Trump?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's it's certainly one of the components out of

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Speaker 4: And I think we were able to see some progress there,

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Speaker 7: That was what do that? What Carly, when you look

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Speaker 7: at Chris and Togs confidence in them to get it down?

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Speaker 7: Or where did that confidence them on when giving his

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Speaker 4: So that's similar to what I think Stevens said, which

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Speaker 9: This?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess if you look how much you look

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Speaker 2: the mobility to get out of trouble. We moved him,

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00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: We literally opened teams up, stretched him, deepening, you know,

438
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: and then we were able to gash him. With JT.

439
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, when we lost that ability in some ways,

440
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: we totally fell apart. I don't think we have any

441
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: choice here. I think we have to play the odds

442
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: that he will heal and that he will be ready,

443
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: if not in the beginning soon after. Because you don't

444
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 2: have a number one. You don't have a number one

445
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: for two years, so you don't have a lot of

446
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: trade capital or draft capital. So your best bet, I think,

447
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: is to go back with Danny. I think yesterday was

448
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: a big thing, you know, despite the game, and we

449
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: can write it off and all that, but I was

450
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: really happy with Riley, and I think that gives us

451
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: another option depth wise, you know, along with AR five.

452
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: So you know, to me, we we attempt to start

453
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: the season the same way we started it this year,

454
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Speaker 2: with the idea though that Danny is the guy and

455
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: then whoever the two is, as they are five or now,

456
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Riley is definitely in the mix. If one of those

457
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: guys has to play early, he has to play. But

458
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't think you can deny his value. It definitely MVP.

459
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: Even as we sit today at the end of the season,

460
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: he still has the eighth best QBR in the National

461
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: Football League. Pierce is a must. Pierce is the one

462
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: game changer we have besides JT. You know again, he

463
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: led the league two years in a row in yards

464
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: per catch this year twenty one to three. I think

465
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: what's close to that. A year ago he hit the

466
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: thousand yard mark, and my god, if you added the

467
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: pis that he's attracted, you're probably around fifteen hundred. Just

468
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: an amazing year, an amazing complete receiver. Now an absolute must.

469
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we could lose three or four guys that

470
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: are just guys, but we cannot lose a guy like Pierce.

471
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: The biggest disappointment after a great first half, JT still

472
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: finishes fourth in the league in rushing, number one in touchdowns,

473
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: but we went from number one to number seventeen. We

474
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: never got him one hundred yard game in the eight

475
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: losses out of nine, so that has to be reworked.

476
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: One of my biggest disappointments in the offensive staff is

477
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: when we did lose Danny and we knew we were

478
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: going to play with subpar quarterbacks, that we did not

479
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: adapt and develop a running game that he was center focus.

480
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: We just continued to do what we did, and that's critical.

481
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to win with Taylor

482
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: not gaining one hundred yards week after week after week,

483
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: and then you're exactly right. I think there's no question

484
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: that Warren has to be a guy that we have

485
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: to exploit. He's got multiple talents. He can run the seam,

486
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: he can run the layer routes. I think what we've

487
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 2: got to do a better job of is getting him

488
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: involved in the quick stuff, in the drive routes, in

489
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: the option routes, snap option, various things like that, along

490
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: with playing him at fullback more, you know, just utilizing

491
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: him differently. But I mean, I think those four guys,

492
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: along with an offensive line and everybody else will have

493
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: a role, really are the pillars of your offense. And

494
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: assuming Danny comes back and he comes back healthy, you know,

495
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: hopefully you can find those heights that thirty points a

496
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: game plus that we had in those that first half

497
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Speaker 2: of the season.

498
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Speaker 5: Yeah, very well, head coach. And just to add, you know,

499
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 5: some context to some of the points that you made,

500
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: I think that you know, you really have to split

501
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: this season in two parts, right, you know, before Jones

502
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 5: is injury and after and you have to recognize and

503
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 5: remember that we were eight and two. We were putting

504
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: up historic type numbers offensively, and you get Daniel Jones

505
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 5: back healthy, you would expect that to continue.

506
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Now.

507
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: I know there's an if, there there's an asterisk there

508
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 5: with the Achilles. He does have some injury history. But

509
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: you know, I think Riley Leonard really proved himself. You

510
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 5: know that he can play and he can be a

511
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 5: very serviceable backup slash starter if need be, which I think,

512
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 5: even though it's one game in a sample size, that

513
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 5: lets you breathe a little bit easier knowing, well, what

514
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 5: if Jones isn't quite ready, you know, for week one,

515
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 5: and it's week three or four to get him back

516
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: fully healthy.

517
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 6: You know.

518
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 5: I think in the run game, you know, I look

519
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 5: at run, you know, and effectiveness in like three different parts.

520
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 5: One is time and score. You can't run the ball

521
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 5: if you're down fourteen in the third quarter and the

522
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 5: other team knows, you have to pass the ball. And

523
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: that's what we did so well early in this season,

524
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 5: that mantra of throw to score, run the win. But

525
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 5: the last seven games, you know, we weren't ahead in

526
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 5: the third quarter. In the fourth quarter, we could pound them.

527
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: So one having leads and that's complimentary football. Offense, defense,

528
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 5: special teams is what made our running game so effective

529
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 5: through the first ten you know. Then I think schematically,

530
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 5: you know, and Coach mentioned it. One thing I would

531
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: like us to do next year is have a full back,

532
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 5: whether it's Warren back there in the eye position or

533
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: whether you bring somebody else in. That just is makes

534
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: defenses a lot harder for their run fits. That opens

535
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 5: up different gaps. It seemed like whenever we did it,

536
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: we were effective. And here's the other thing. There aren't

537
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 5: a lot of teams right now in the NFL that

538
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: operate with a fullback, so defenses don't practice against it,

539
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 5: they don't see it. Yeah, And I think when you

540
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: watch the really good run, you know, you think about

541
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 5: Shanahan and what they do in the forty nine ers.

542
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: I mean, how many times as you check back there,

543
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: you know, as a league guy, motioning fitting in different

544
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: inserts makes it harder for the defense. So I think,

545
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: you know, schematically, there's some things to look at in

546
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 5: the offseason. And I think the third one individual effort.

547
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: And I think you know you got you know, Hall

548
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: of Fame, Pro Bowl or Quintin Nelson there and Ryman

549
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 5: in the left side. You know, I know on the

550
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 5: right side we had more injuries. I think Travis did

551
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: some nice things, but you know, Bordolini and Gonzolvez, those

552
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: are two pillar guys. You think think this was really

553
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 5: both their first year, right. The more they play, the

554
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: more experience they get, the more they play together on

555
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: those combo blocks. I think all those three things helped

556
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: the run game to Alec Pierce. I agree priority number one.

557
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 5: What impressed me so much is he's always been the

558
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: deep ball threat, but how much he's worked to be

559
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: more of a possession receiver inside the numbers, those inbreaking routes,

560
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: those digs. I mean, he and he really has just

561
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: kind of a special juice and you really saw it

562
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 5: the last part of the season, and you heard it

563
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: in his comments today when they had the open locker room.

564
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: You know, he was talking about resigning free agency and

565
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: he said that, you know, Daniel Jones being back here

566
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: would be a big part of him wanting to come

567
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: back to Indy. So obviously there's a lot of synergy,

568
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: you know, with those two guys. And but at the

569
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 5: end of the day, Matt, you know, you said, you know,

570
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: stay healthy, and I think you know, you can do

571
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: all you want preventive injury stuff, but sometimes you got

572
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 5: to have Lady Luck on your side. And unfortunately, yeah,

573
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: you know, we really didn't have that for the Colts

574
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: in November and December. So high level for me, those

575
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: are kind of my New Year's offensive resolutions. I think

576
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: we have the core of what we need back. It's

577
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 5: getting guys healthy, re signing Pierce. You know, I know

578
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: we'll get into it when I think about free agency signings.

579
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: I think that's something that, you know, we need to

580
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: look at more on the defensive side of the football.

581
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: You know, I've been preaching that fullback thing forever, and

582
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: I think you really need to get a fullback. I mean,

583
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: if you ever, like Joe said, if you want to

584
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: study the forty nine ers or even the Ravens over

585
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: the years, that fullback is key. And even though Warren

586
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: can do it, you want him at the tight end

587
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: in that situation so that the play pass with him

588
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: downfield is there. I do believe this to dovetail off

589
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: what Joe said. If we get Danny back healthy, keep Pierce,

590
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: and keep this offense intact, I think we can get

591
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: back to that thirty points a game. I don't think

592
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: this offense needs a con of outside ian players coming

593
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: in to make the difference.

594
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: All right, great stuff so far. Again, that's Rick Venturi

595
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: and Joe Wright. S'm Matt Taylor. This is Colts Roundtable

596
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: Live on ninety three to five and one oh seven

597
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: to five the Fan this evening with you until seven.

598
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: Those were the offensive new year's resolutions. Let's go to

599
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: the other side of the ball and talk about defensive

600
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: resolutions here on this January the fifth, and we kind

601
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: of pick up where we left off on offense to

602
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: begin with here on defense, stay healthy, right, I mean

603
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner and Charvarius Ward, de Forest Buckner, those guys

604
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: combined to miss twenty four games this season. And then

605
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: earlier today you had Ward in the locker room, and

606
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: rightfully so talking about, you know, his big picture future

607
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: having those three concussions, and you know kind of what

608
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: that means for him going forward personally. Number two, find

609
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: a more consistent pass rush. The Colts end the season

610
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: with thirty nine sacks, but only four in the left

611
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: five games. They end the season kind of right in

612
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: the middle in terms of total sacks in the NFL

613
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: for the season. Tweak the secondary, not give up so

614
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: many big plays through the air. The Colts allow fifty

615
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: seven passing plays over twenty five yards that ranked tied

616
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: for twenty fifth this season. And I haven't yet had

617
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the time to add up how many completions they allowed

618
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: over fifteen, but I'm sure that number, you know, as

619
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: the season went on just continue to grow. Higher and higher,

620
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: and then any other resolutions you guys have. So Joe,

621
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna kick start with you, how do you rank

622
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: my resolutions? Put him in order, and certainly submit anything

623
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: else you have for the defensive side of the ball.

624
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, I think that's a really good list. And again,

625
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: you know, every team in the NFL has injuries and

626
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 5: they account for but it just seemed like the Colts.

627
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: I mean, your injuries are to your marquee guys and

628
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 5: marquee times. When we think about Jones, you think about

629
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 5: Buckner missing, you know, all those games. I mean not

630
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: only his play, how good he is against the run

631
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: in the past, you know, we saw what it was

632
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: like when Buckner's not in there with Grover, but just

633
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: as leadership on the defensive side, and for as much

634
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: investment as we made in the secondary, we just never

635
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 5: got to see all those guys play together, you know,

636
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 5: justin Wally, I mean nobody said his name since August,

637
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: you know, maybe outside of us and a few others,

638
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: but you know he was going to be in there

639
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: to start, right and you know, so one and getting

640
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 5: him back, I mean that's a bonus. You know, he

641
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: kind of had a red shirt ear right there, but

642
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: with Ward and Sauce and we never got to see

643
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: that secondary all play together.

644
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 2: Now.

645
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: I think, you know Ward, you know, he spoke earlier

646
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: today and I think there's unknowns on his future. He

647
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: was open and honest about that. I think the same

648
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: goes for Buckner. But I think at the end of

649
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: the day, while our offense I think should and will

650
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: stay intact, I think you're gonna see a lot of

651
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: changes defensively, and I think part of it's going to be,

652
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Speaker 5: you know, do guys decide to retire. Part of it's

653
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Speaker 5: going to be do you make changes in terms of

654
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Speaker 5: bringing in free agency? And to me, that's where I

655
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Speaker 5: think the Colt should spend their money in the offseason.

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Speaker 5: And the biggest area though, the biggest area for this

657
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Speaker 5: defense is the pass rush. It's the ability to have

658
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Speaker 5: a guy on the edge that can win one on

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Speaker 5: one battles, that's an ambient player that puts fear in

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Speaker 5: the other team's offensive lineman and quarterback and offensive coordinator

661
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Speaker 5: and head coach and doesn't let him sleep that closer.

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Speaker 5: That guy that can just win. And you know, the

663
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 5: Colts had a lot of you know, pressures and sacks.

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Speaker 5: Their numbers were, you know, decent when you press them

665
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Speaker 5: against the NFL, but almost all of that was bringing

666
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Speaker 5: a fifth guy, a sixth guy, bringing blitzes, you know,

667
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Speaker 5: and we were five on four when and that's what

668
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: the game comes down to. Two minute drills, fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: So many times you're rushing four guys, you're dropping seven,

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Speaker 5: and we just did not find consistent pressure. And you know,

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Speaker 5: for me, there's a couple of good guys out there.

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Speaker 5: You know, Trey Hendrickson, we know kind of the saga

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Speaker 5: down in Cincinnati. He's a free agent. The other guy

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Speaker 5: that I really like is Jalen Phillips. You know, Philadelphia

675
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: traded for him. You know, he's really he's i think

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Speaker 5: fourth in the NFL and pressure since he came over

677
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Speaker 5: to Philly from Miami. He's a guy that's younger. He's

678
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Speaker 5: going to be a free agent up this year. So

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Speaker 5: in my mind, I'd love to see the Colts spend

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Speaker 5: some money, even if it costs you a lot, because

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00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: when you do go to free agency sometimes you got

682
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Speaker 5: to pay or maybe overpaid. But get a guy that's

683
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: just a game wrecker stud there on the edge. I

684
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Speaker 5: think if you do that, it does so much in

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Speaker 5: terms of helping the secondary. You know, when you can

686
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Speaker 5: get a guy that can get those first wave rush sacks, pressures,

687
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Speaker 5: affect the game and most importantly be a closer. Because

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Speaker 5: when I look at our defense, you know, in the

689
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Speaker 5: fourth quarter, it was in this offense defense together, but

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Speaker 5: we just did not and go back to yesterday, You

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00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: go back to Kansas City, you know, you go back

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Speaker 5: to the Houston game, the Seattle game, the ability to

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Speaker 5: have somebody just close the game on defense with a

694
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Speaker 5: huge sack, a strip, sack of fumble, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I think that we're gonna have to look outside the

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Speaker 5: building to try to bring one of those guys in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought. My biggest disappointment I think on this

698
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: football team, other than the total historic collapse, is how

699
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: the defense just slid off the table. I found the

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Speaker 2: defense from what I saw at Grant Park schematically and

701
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Speaker 2: personnel wise, and what I saw in December and January,

702
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Speaker 2: to me, it was unrecognizable. To be honest with you,

703
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Speaker 2: I mean, yesterday we couldn't stop a JV team and

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Speaker 2: just like most of the season, in the second half

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Speaker 2: of the season, you know, when we had to make

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Speaker 2: one stop at the end against their JV team. We

707
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Speaker 2: couldn't even do that. So you're gonna have to address

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Speaker 2: this defense. I don't think because we talked so much

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Speaker 2: about quarterback play, I don't think that we have talked

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00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: about how bad and how much this has to be addressed.

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Speaker 2: And I would say to start with what has to

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Speaker 2: be addressed is anything that revolves around the passing game.

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Speaker 2: We are thirty first at the end of seventeen games,

714
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Speaker 2: thirty first in past defense, twenty sixth on third down,

715
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Speaker 2: which dropped us to twenty three total. And then this

716
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Speaker 2: is the most important statistic Joe mentioned it, twenty sixth

717
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: on defense in the fourth quarter. Now, no matter what,

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Speaker 2: if that doesn't change, you are never going to be

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Speaker 2: an elite football team. You're never going to be an

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Speaker 2: elite football team because games, no matter how good you are,

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Speaker 2: are going to come down to the last four minutes. Now,

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Speaker 2: health is a problem, There's no question about it. The

723
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Speaker 2: two injuries that scare me the most over my years

724
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: in coaching are concussions and that we're talking about ward

725
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: and neck. We're talking about buck to be honest with you,

726
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Speaker 2: So those are two critical guys that I think we

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Speaker 2: have to account for in the event that that doesn't

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Speaker 2: work out. I'm not a portrayer of doom, but that's

729
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: realism to that. I mean, you know, Sauce will be

730
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: all right. He's got soft tissue injury, he'll be fine,

731
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Speaker 2: but those two guys were not sure. Now, once we

732
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Speaker 2: lost Buckner, who was heart and soul of the defense,

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Speaker 2: we lost the only guy, the only guy in the

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Speaker 2: front seven who's an impact guy who impacts the game

735
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Speaker 2: and changes the game. Nobody else in there. So to me,

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Speaker 2: there's no sacred cows to start with. And as far

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Speaker 2: as staying healthy, it's great, but you have to be

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Speaker 2: lucky in many respects. You know, that's a fairy tale

739
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Speaker 2: because the NFL is really a game of attrition and

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Speaker 2: it's really how you handle it, what your depth is,

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Speaker 2: and how your coaching staff approaches that, which I didn't

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Speaker 2: think they did a really great job. Again, I think

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Speaker 2: it starts number one. You know, I think we lost

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Speaker 2: our way. I think Lou lost his way. We started

745
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Speaker 2: out in Grant Park, you know, with Wally and Ward

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Speaker 2: and Kenny as a big man demand type team and

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Speaker 2: even Jalen. I'm we were going to play Manda Man,

748
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Speaker 2: Manda Man, Manda Man, variations of Manda Man, Nickels, Dimes,

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Speaker 2: you know. And as we lost Wally, you know, and

750
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Speaker 2: then Ward was out and we traded for Exauce and

751
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: he was out all of a sudden. We didn't have

752
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: the shutdown guys. But that's not an excuse because teams

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00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: play without shutdown guys all the time. My twenty seven

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Speaker 2: years in coaching, most of it was without shutdown guys.

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Speaker 2: And I thought we did and I think this has

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Speaker 2: to be addressed schematically. What are we going to do.

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Speaker 2: You can't just say that if I have two shutdown corners,

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Speaker 2: I can play great defense. You've got to be able

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00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: to adapt around that. And what we became as the

760
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Speaker 2: season went on is we became simplistic. We were either

761
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Speaker 2: Manda Man free with no underneath help, no nuance, or

762
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Speaker 2: we went back to that area zone, which was horrific.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was horrific. No matter how good your

764
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: linebackers are or are not, when you play area zone

765
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Speaker 2: and you're not matching receivers underneath, you're gonna get killed

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Speaker 2: under there, like we did thirty first in the league.

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Speaker 2: And it's accentuated if you really don't have a good

768
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Speaker 2: pass rush. So I think we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: really rethink again most disappointing part of it for me,

770
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Speaker 2: rethink our defensive concept. When it comes down to coverage.

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Speaker 2: We've got to develop what I call in between coverages,

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Speaker 2: where if you're playing zone, you're matching people, you're not

773
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Speaker 2: letting all these guys wide open in there the middle

774
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Speaker 2: of the field. You've got to close it off. And

775
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Speaker 2: then when you play Man, you got to play different

776
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Speaker 2: variations of Man. Again. Hopefully, if it's a perfect world,

777
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Speaker 2: you get Wally back, you know, you get Ward back,

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00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: and you get Gardner back, and then you can play

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00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more Manda Man or a lot of

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Speaker 2: Manda Man regardless. You know, well, as far as the

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00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: front goes, with the exception of Buck, there's just not

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Speaker 2: a lot of impact. I mean, you know, we talk

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Speaker 2: about a lot too. I mean, he eate and half sacks.

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Speaker 2: To me, they're the quietest eight and a half sacks

785
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. They're not He does

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Speaker 2: not change the game. Pay does not change the game. Really,

787
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: nobody really does. And so when you add that, those

788
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: statistics mount up because of the combination of not being

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00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: able to cover and not having impact rushers, particularly on

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Speaker 2: the edge, like all the really good When you look

791
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: at the really good teams, you know they play good

792
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: defense and they have edge guys who changed the game.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with Joe along with some schematic changes,

794
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Speaker 2: because if you don't change schematically, it won't make any difference.

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Speaker 2: If you have five Ronnie Lots back there, you're going

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Speaker 2: to give up tons of yardage. So that's that to me,

797
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 2: is a must, and it can't be overlooked, it can't

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Speaker 2: be brushed off. But we've got to spend our money

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Speaker 2: on defense. I think we'll be able to sign Danny

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Speaker 2: Neil because of the Achilles. I think we'll be able

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00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: to sign him to a reasonable contract, and we got

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00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: to get pierced. But then we've got to be able

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00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: to spend money on defense because I think when it's

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Speaker 2: all said and done, that is a combination right now

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Speaker 2: of scheme and lack of talent.

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Speaker 3: All right, A lot to unpack right there. Rick Venturi

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Speaker 10: We know where capable of so I think that's before anything. Obviously,

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Speaker 10: the season didn't in the way we wanted it to.

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Speaker 10: You have to always draw back on also the good stuff.

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Speaker 10: You look at the bad first, and you have to

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Speaker 10: figure out why that happened, and why we lost seventh

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Speaker 10: straight and why we lost the games that we lost.

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Speaker 10: But you also need to look at the peak of

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Speaker 10: our season, why we're beating teams. We're playing complete games,

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Speaker 10: playing compliment in football, every phase was playing well and

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Speaker 10: if one phase wasn't playing well, the other would pick

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Speaker 10: the other one up. And that's what we didn't do

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Speaker 10: on the games we lost. And it's a simple formula.

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00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 10: The games were winning. Offense played well, defense played well,

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Speaker 10: and special teams played well, but none of them, none

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Speaker 10: of us had to play great or be superman out there.

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Speaker 10: When we all played well, we won games together. But

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Speaker 10: the games we lost, we didn't play a complete game

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Speaker 10: at all. So I think that's the whole story of

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Speaker 10: the years. When we do the simple things right, we

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Speaker 10: were able to we were one of the best in

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Speaker 10: the league.

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Speaker 3: That's Colt safety cam bying them from earlier today on

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Speaker 3: balancing the seven game losing streak to end the season

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Speaker 3: versus the Colts eight and two start to begin the year.

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Speaker 3: The Colts know what they're capable of when they played

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Speaker 3: better football together, when they had the majority of their

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Speaker 3: pieces healthy on defense, like we talked about in the

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Speaker 3: previous segment. Buying them, by the way, started every game

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Speaker 3: for the Colts in his first year after signing with

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Speaker 3: the team in free agency, but the Colts lost defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle to Forest Buckner to a herniated disc and his

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Speaker 3: neck a week before the bye. Cornerback Charvarius Ward played

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Speaker 3: in just seven games, dealing with three concussions, and then

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Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner only had two starts with the Colts due

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Speaker 3: to calf injuries after the team gave up two first

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Speaker 3: good ones. Aaron has done just that. He's asking, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Joe writes, Alec Pierce is our top free agent on offense.

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Speaker 3: Who would you say is our top free agent on defense?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Nick Cross for sure and a really good question. You

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Speaker 5: know you just heard from buying them. But to me,

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Speaker 5: that's got to be a key priority in bringing back

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Speaker 5: you know, his partner back there on the safety position.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Cross is a guy that you know, he's

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Speaker 5: got four years of NFL experience, but he's only twenty four,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's so young when he entered the league.

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Speaker 5: He's durable, played in seventeen games both in the last

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Speaker 5: two seasons, over a hundred and twenty tackles both years.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's got three sacks on the air force fumble,

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Speaker 5: he's got a pick. So Cross is a guy, Matt

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Speaker 5: that I think is an emerging talent with a lot

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Speaker 5: of experience but only twenty four. And to me, he's

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Speaker 5: got to be our key guy on the defensive side

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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff right there. This is coming from Hank.

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Speaker 3: He's asking, Hey, Rick Venturi, did Riley Leonard show you

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Speaker 3: enough over the course of this season that he can

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Speaker 3: be the team's backup quarterback next year, possibly over Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 3: who is still dealing with an eye injury.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can only say this. I think yesterday, despite

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Speaker 2: all the other things, it was mission accomplished with Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 2: I mean we wanted to accomplish two things. We wanted

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Speaker 2: to see what we had and we wanted him to

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Speaker 2: get significant reps in real games and not have to

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Speaker 2: try to make decisions based on preseason second halves that

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Speaker 2: are almost insignificant. I thought he passed the test really well,

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Speaker 2: and I was particularly happy Matt with the first half.

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Speaker 2: The eight for thirteen one hundred and thirty plus two

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Speaker 2: tds and one hundred and thirty five passer rating. Now,

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Speaker 2: the reason I say first half that was against the varsity.

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Speaker 2: That was against They're really good players in a really

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Speaker 2: good defense. We did attack Smitty over there and Pierce

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Speaker 2: has burned him to death. But I was really happy

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Speaker 2: with that. I was particularly interested in one thing, how

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Speaker 2: he delivered the ball with velocity, uh and accuracy. And

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Speaker 2: I thought he passed that test. He didn't have a

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Speaker 2: lot of tight window throws, but I thought he threw

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Speaker 2: it is something that can only improve. And I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what. The kid has everything else, the leadership, the charisma,

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Speaker 2: the smarts, the athleticism. I remember telling Chris Ballard when

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Speaker 2: we drafted him, which I was really high at the time,

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Speaker 2: because I always said, if you if you, if you

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Speaker 2: put if you put competitor in the in the in

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Speaker 2: the Google and you look for an explanation, Riley Leonard's

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Speaker 2: picture will come up. I said, you either have drafted

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Speaker 2: Alaner or Montana. Now I don't want to get in

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Speaker 2: to hyperbole, but just remember this. Montanna was a third

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Speaker 2: round draft pick out of Notre Dame. He wasn't a one.

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Speaker 2: He had a lot of the same strengths and assumed weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: They didn't think he had a strong arm, They didn't

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Speaker 2: think he could do those things. Now, in no way

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Speaker 2: I'm putting him in that category. But I am putting

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Speaker 2: him in that category now for a quicker backup than

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 3: All right too, Notre Dame quarterbacks right there. I like

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Speaker 3: the comparison, and really good showing in his first start

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Speaker 3: there from mister Riley Lennard, who did a nice job,

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Speaker 3: especially in the first half like you talked about against

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Speaker 3: one of the best defenses in the NFL from the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Colts Roundtable Live on ninety three to

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Speaker 1: Colts breakdown. Here's Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts

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Speaker 8: I think I got to see it all late out

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Speaker 8: in front of me, and there's so many different variables

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Speaker 8: that go into that decision in each Yeah, So I

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Speaker 8: think it's really hard to say, like what the priorities

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Speaker 8: are because I think, you know, you're looking at fifty

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Speaker 8: different variables at each place, you know. I think it's

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Speaker 8: it's really it's really hard to say that before you

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Speaker 8: kind of know what you what you're comparing.

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Speaker 3: That's Alec Pierce talking about his future of the NFL

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Speaker 3: and as possible return to the Colts. He is a

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Speaker 3: free agent, just wrapped up his fourth and final season

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Speaker 3: on his rookie contract. Drafted by the Colts in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, and what a year he had. As we've discussed,

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Speaker 3: he goes over one thousand yards first time in his career,

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Speaker 3: only needed forty seven catches to do it. Also led

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Speaker 3: the NFL and yards per catch him back to back

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Speaker 3: seasons this year does so at twenty one point three

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Speaker 3: yards per catch. He's also the first Colt since Roger

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Speaker 3: Carr in nineteen seventy six to have less than fifty

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Speaker 3: catches in over one thousand receiving yards in a single season.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back here to Colts Round Table Live.

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Speaker 3: We're closing out the show here Matt Taylor with Rick

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Speaker 3: Venturi and Joe Wrights, and we want to dive back

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00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 3: into the mail bag one final time. We have a

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Speaker 3: really good question coming from Ben that we'll pose to

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Speaker 3: both Joe and Rick. Ben is asking, hey, fellas, do

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Speaker 3: you think that we will show the same aggressiveness this

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Speaker 3: offseason as we did last year when it comes to

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Speaker 3: player acquisition? Last year we had urgency to get back

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs and should we have even more after

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Speaker 3: missing the postseason for the fifth straight year. Joe Wrights,

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Speaker 3: I'll start with you.

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Speaker 5: I think yes and yes, and I think you do

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Speaker 5: it because you know you have an offense that can

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Speaker 5: be one of the NFL's best right now, and so

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Speaker 5: I think you know the time is to spend money,

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Speaker 5: especially on the defensive side, and do it. And you

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Speaker 5: know positively, Matt, you know the Colts. I think they

998
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Speaker 5: got forty six million a salary cap space. You know,

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Speaker 5: obviously we talked about some other guys maybe discerning retirement

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Speaker 5: that could free up more money there. They've done a

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Speaker 5: good job structure in the cap where there's not a

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Speaker 5: lot of dead money, you know, if certain guys potentially

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Speaker 5: move on. So I think yes for sure. Coach, what's

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Speaker 5: your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think on offense, but I think

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Speaker 2: yes overall. There's no question about it, and Chris did

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Speaker 2: that from the beginning at the of the offseason all

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Speaker 2: the way through the regular season. It didn't all work out.

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Speaker 2: Injuries killed it, but it wasn't for not being aggressive.

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Speaker 2: I think we should do the same thing. I think offensively,

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Speaker 2: make sure we sign our key guys. We talked about that. Pierce,

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Speaker 2: get Danny back, whether it's a fullback. I think tweaking

1013
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: the offense along with that, I think we can survive

1014
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: and be good. I think defense we need a rework job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we need to, particularly the front seven.

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Speaker 2: If the corners come back healthy, we'll be fine. So again,

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Speaker 2: as I said before, I think it's going to take

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Speaker 2: a tweaking of the defensive system. I don't think we're

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Speaker 2: in the right direction right now. I think we have

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Speaker 2: to tweak that but we've got to get better players. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: we're going to have to spend money to change bad money.

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Speaker 2: But that's the way it is. I think again, if

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Speaker 2: we can recapture the offensive skill that we had in

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Speaker 2: those first ten games, and we can reshape this defense

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Speaker 2: and get it back from the mid twenties, you know,

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Speaker 2: get it back into that top twelve thirteen, then we

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Speaker 2: will be a playoff team.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. A very busy and important

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Speaker 3: offseason for the Indianapolis Colts starts now having missed the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And that's the mailbag segment tonight. Thanks to everybody for

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Speaker 3: do it for us tonight. We of course squeezed in

1042
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Speaker 3: as many questions and as many thoughts as we could

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Speaker 3: until our time expires this evening, Rick Van Turrey and

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Speaker 3: Joe writes, you guys are absolute rock stars. Man, Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for your time, your knowledge, your insight,

1046
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: your experience all season long. I love this show. I

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Speaker 3: love you guys individually, So thanks again for a great season.

1048
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Speaker 3: Can't wait to work with you guys on some Colts

1049
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Speaker 3: content here in the off season. I know you'd want

1050
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: you both would want the Colts season to continue in

1051
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, but enjoy some downtime from football coming up.

1052
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Speaker 3: And thanks so much for everything you guys did all

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Speaker 3: season long.

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Speaker 5: Well thanks, Matt, really appreciate you. You obviously are the

1055
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Speaker 5: point guard that makes it easy for Coach and I.

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Speaker 5: So I think this show is great, and I think

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Speaker 5: just the camaraderie we got and just the insight, and

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Speaker 5: so thanks to you and Coach, thanks to you as well. Well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys. I think this show. I think over

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Speaker 2: the years we've developed this into one of the one

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Speaker 2: of the great ones. Matt is he's the greatest. There's

1062
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Speaker 2: no question about it. I enjoy every second of it,

1063
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Speaker 2: and hopefully next season it's much longer.

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Speaker 5: No question, Mary will be our last show next year.

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Speaker 5: February twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: There you go, write it down, brother, from your lips

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Speaker 3: to God's ears, the football gods. That is, hopefully things

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Speaker 3: are better for the Colts in twenty twenty six. All

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Speaker 3: right again, we heard from Colts owner Carly Urse Gordon.

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Speaker 3: At the top of the show. We played part of

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Speaker 3: her press conference from earlier this afternoon. If you miss

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Speaker 3: that in its entirety, that is available right now on

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Speaker 3: Colts dot Com and the Colts Mobile app. But that's

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Speaker 3: going to do it for us tonight and all season long,

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Speaker 3: Colts Round Live this show. We'll come back next September

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Speaker 3: in the regular season. But until then, thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for listening tonight and all season long.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm Matt Taylor and this has been your home for

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Speaker 3: the Colts ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 3: the Fan. Good evening,