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Today Bloomberg Lahos student Grosso and Greg Sture 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: discussed the latest developments in the different legal challenges to 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: President Trump's Executive Order on immigration, which has been struck 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: down by a federal appeals court and could go all 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the way to the Supreme Court. They speak with Stephen Vladik, 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: a professor at University of Texas School of Law, and 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: lies A goyte Nay, co director of the Liberty and 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice. Steve 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: pick out one thing in the original travel band that 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: you think would have to be changed, uh, for for 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: it to survive a court challenge. I think the first 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: thing is that a new executive order would have to 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: clarify what to this point has only come from the 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: lips of the White House Council and the Press Secretary, 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: which is that the executive Order on its face, does 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: not apply to so called LPRs, lawful permanent resident aliens, 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: green card holders. Um. I think that's no brainer. I 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: also think frankly that if they really want to insulate 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the executive order from some of the more structural challenges 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: to it, you know, I think they need to reconsider 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: the list of seven countries and the original executive order 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: and the exception to the refugee ban for members of 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: religious minorities. Um. More diversity on the list of countries 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: and the elimination of a religious exception might actually make 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: this much more uh consistent with the Constitution's protections against 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: religious discrimination. So those two me are the two easiest steps, Liza, 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Assuming that this will be challenged as well, would the 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: government still have to provide evidence to refute claims made 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: by people like Secretaries of State mad linol brighton John 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Kerry that Trump's executive order would be ineffective in making 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: the US less safe. Yes, I think there is going 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: to be a need for the administration to put on 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: evidence and support of whatever revised order comes out unless 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: that order looks extremely different from the order that has 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: already been issued, and we know that's not going to 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: be the case. Trump has already said that it's going 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: to differ very little. And the problem for the administration 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: is that there have been so many statements that the 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: President made while he was a candidate and after he 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: was the president, suggesting that the underlying purpose behind this 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: executive order is to try to keep Muslims out of 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the countries. But that's the background to all of this. 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: And so in order to refute this evidence that that 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: there is religious animus behind the order, there needs to 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: be something more than just a wrote invocation of the 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: words national security. There will have to be some evidence 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: as to, you know, why the countries were chosen, whatever 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: those countries may be on this in this next executive order, 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: and what the security threat is from them. And as 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: Liza Goytine, co director of the Liberty and National Security 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: Program at the Brennan Center for Justice, and Stephen Vladika, 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: Professor at University of Texas School of Law, speaking with 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg La host Jon Grosso and Greg Sture, you can 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: listen to Bloomberg Law weekdays at one pm Wall Street 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Time here on Bloomberg Radio Now. 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