1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: And Rivers is back into the gun. Quizzonberry is his 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: center and he is going to throw on this down. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Fires are intercepted again, picked off, return to the forty 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: down the side on It's funny eart on. Here comes 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Rik Harris going in all the way. Touchdown Riders first 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: down of gold. Rivers good protection, packed again, intercepted by 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Eric Harris his third, but a flag is down on 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the far side of the field and it's an offside 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: against Oakland, and that's gonna take the pick away. Rivers 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: throws cast caught me and touch Standler gets the touch 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: d They're down in a long one. Jacobs clack in 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: the game, no rookie from the touchdown. Rivers airs it out. 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Allen Pecks his packs intercepted by Carl Joseph, and there 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: you have it. Karl Joseph with the game deciding interception 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: of Phil Rivers, one of three picks thrown by Rivers. 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: He had another two that were taken off the board. 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: It was like a Joe Namothan nineteen seventy four performance, 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: uh for the great Charges quarterback who wasn't so great tonight, 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: And it wasn't so great for the Chargers who fall 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: to the Raiders to twenty four at the black Hole, 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: araucous black hole. Here I am in the throw throwback 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: podcast garage, as legally obligated for me to call it that. 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: With the great Mark Sessler, Mark, this is a fun 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: a f C West showdown, a little sloppy, but an 25 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: enjoyable game and a great atmosphere. As I said, well, yeah, 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean it. This is what you think of when 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: you when the Raiders are going to be a team 28 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: that is a factor in the a f C. And 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: they certainly are right now at that at this point. 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: And it was Eric Harris with the two early picks 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: that made up for a Raiders team that really didn't 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of offense for the first part of 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: this game. Early pick and then the second one to 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: drive later. It was you know, Rivers had three two 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: picks in his first five passes, and that second one 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Eric Harris for a pick six. This was a strange game. 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I you didn't you go in with three hours of 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: pregame action listing all the offensive players that are going 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: to be a big factor. Very few of them were, 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: very few of them were. I mean, it just really 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: was quite I thought the Raiders secondary down the stretch 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: and that second in the fourth quarter played a good 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: job game. I thought it was interesting. Everybody knows by 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: now it's one of those stats that that get thrown 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: out wildly and repeatedly. Um going into a new week. 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: But a week after the Raiders had four touchdowns in 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: a win, and each of the four touchdowns where by rookies. 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: It happened again. Uh, not all scores, but the fact 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: that the rookie class, the baby Raiders as I'm calling them, 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: had a big impact in this game. Max Crosby, a 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. He was living in Philip Rivers face 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: in this night, on this night, right down to that 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: last a on the inner interception that Hurry decided it 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: and Josh Jacobs, who was quiet for most of the evening, 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: had the big touchdown run to put the Raiders ahead 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: with two minutes to play, less than two minutes to play. 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: So again, you gotta give it up, you gotta give 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: it up. Sessler to the Mayok Mayock Routen brain trust, 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: which just hit a home run in their first year together. 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: And I think one of the big stories in the 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: NFL season continues to be a Raiders team that was 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: largely written off as a joke, even all the way 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: through the hard knock season last year, during the four 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: and twelve and no victory lap here Mark, But I 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: feel like there was a lot of hate on the 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Raiders last year. I think they went four and twelve 67 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: and everyone was just having so much fun saying that 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Ruden couldn't hacken in the modern NFL anymore. But what 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: they should have been realizing was when you tear down 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: an entire organization, you gotta kind of throw out that 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: first year because what they need to do is tear 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: it up, tear it down before they can build it up. 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: And they've built it up pretty quickly to the point 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: where they're gonna be playing all of in football in December. Yeah, 75 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I think I think it was the Gruden personality and 76 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: the persona and the Monday night aspect of Gruden that 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: when he rolled in and rolled back into coaching for 78 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: the first time in a decade after probably three or 79 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: four years in a row where there were rumors of 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Gruden being corded or wanting to come back only if 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: he could get the quarterback of his choice, and he 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: rolled into Oakland and it was you know what, Gruden 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: and car just don't seem like a match. Gruden and 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: player X don't seem like a match. And Mayock rolling 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: in from television, these two TV guys. And you know, 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: we've looked around the league at a couple of teams 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: trying to do things differently, and I think that the 88 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: the Gruden Mayock pairing was probably something that people didn't 89 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: really want to work. I was certainly critical of it 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: a year ago, and they've absolutely turned it around. And 91 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you're getting stories now of Gruden as the coach being 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: someone that has I think absolutely turned the switch up 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: on this team. And you're right, it's the rookie class 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: and you get these you get these teams where the 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: rookie class flips and it works, and you get this 96 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And it's the Chargers that hours ago 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: we were looking at it saying they they are the 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: a f C team that we now trust. They're getting healthy. 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: You know, Bosa is absolutely a Defensive Player of the 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: Year candidate, and this is the Chargers team that you 101 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: have to be concerned about. Not that this was a 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: bad performance by them necessarily, but here you are, You've 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: lost your four and five and you are not necessarily 104 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: a team that I can trust week to week at all. Yeah, 105 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was a tough performance by Los Angeles 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: because for the reasons you just said, and we speculated 107 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: the possibility of them going on a run, and who knows, 108 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: at four and six, maybe they still have it in them. 109 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: But once you get to that six lost range and 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: you're before and it's before Thanksgiving, you've really backed yourself 111 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: into a corner. Uh, Philip Rivers, and you you know 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: we mentioned Joey Bosa. He was completely erased in this 113 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: game by Trent Brown. He had his first tackle with 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I think it was midway through the third quarter. You 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: just never heard his name. But Philip Rivers, this is 116 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: one of the worst games I've seen him play. And 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: the fact that it happened in primetime in a big 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: division showdown, that hurts. I just want to go through 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: mark the seven play drive that the last charges drive 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: of the game, because it was wretched. Because what happens 121 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: is the Raiders get the touchdown from Jacobs to go up. 122 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: Then Daniel Carslon, because this is what kickers do, they 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: blow it. He pushes the extra points. So instead of 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: it's it's two point game and you could just picture it. 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: You can picture of the Chargers kicking the field goal 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: are winning, although it's hard to picture of the Chargers 127 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: doing that because they're usually one that missed. They missed 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: the field goal. Uh up down two points, But that's 129 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: beside the point. It never got to that because with 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: a chance, all they had to do is get into 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: field goal range. Seven plays. Here it comes Rivers incomplete, 132 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Shotgun Rivers incomplete, deep pass, Shotgun Rivers incomplete, short past 133 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, then a penalty back to first and ten 134 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Rivers incomplete, shotgun Rivers incomplete, Shotgun Rivers incomplete, and then 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: finally shotgun Rivers intercepted by Karl Joseph Keenan Allen the 136 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: intended receiver. I think that's over seven with a pick 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: that is wretched. Yeah, And in the Raiders secondary, like 138 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: we mentioned, I thought showed up big time at the 139 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: end and you saw Rivers trying to fling passes. Two 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: guys like Andre Patten. They just didn't really have the 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: weapons tonight. Mike Williams, you know who. I think he 142 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: had a good game last week, two catches, Keenan Allen 143 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: shows up as always, but they just didn't have This 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: is a different offense too, when you have at this 145 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: point Melvin Gordon with twenty two carries and a bunch 146 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: of touches on the night and Austin Ekeler. This is 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: not his offense anymore. And I guess I would have 148 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: to ask if that's the way they want to go 149 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Well, okay, I see that, Melvin Gordon looks, 150 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: he looks again and maybe think. I don't know if 151 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: it will be by the Charger's probably not, but I 152 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: think he might end up getting paid anyway. I don't 153 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: know if he'll get the contract if he was hoping 154 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: last summer, but if he continues to play the way 155 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: he's playing the last two weeks, he's going to be 156 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: a very good free agent. Uh. You know, target for 157 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: anyone but the Chargers. You know they lose Russell o'koung 158 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: as well. I mean it's I don't know, it was 159 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: just so Chargers. I mean, this is their seventh um. 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: This is how many losses now six losses. All the 161 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: losses have been by a touchdown or less. And just 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: when they start to get healthy, now Okong, he leaves 163 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: with a growing injury in the first half. Uh, they have, 164 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, a ton of penalties. This game had twenty penalties, 165 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: by the way, which continues to be a thing in 166 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: our league. Our league, and it's a league you know 167 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: that you and I know well we we've toiled in. 168 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say on the field necessarily, but this is 169 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: a very a f C West prime time matchup, and 170 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, there was caution. I thought when we got 171 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: a little hot on the chart just coming out of 172 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: the Packers game on both sides, was was that really 173 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: the Packers team from last week? I don't think so. 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: And was that really what we could expect from the 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: Chargers going forward? Definitely not, because when have they really 176 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: ever done that week after week? They are a hot 177 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: and cold operation right now. They've got a lot of talent, 178 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: but a night like tonight, they basically could not add 179 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: up to the some of their parts. The Raiders, to me, 180 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't care what's going on. They're a fun team. 181 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, this was not the Derek Carr of the 182 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, but he is certainly playing like 183 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a good quarterback and I believe I trust him down 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: the stretch to guide this team. I think they're gonna 185 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: be right on the edge of the a f C 186 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: playoff picture going right into late December. It's a successful 187 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: season no matter what happens, unless the wheels fall off. 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: But I just don't see it happening. They have the 189 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: Bengals at home next week, then they go to the 190 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: meadow Lands to face a bad Jets team. They have 191 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: a tough game and Arrowhead, but that could be measuring 192 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: stick game. Then you get two more home games against 193 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: the Titans and Jags. So they are set up here 194 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and I think they could be seven and four two 195 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: weeks from now. It will be interesting to see I 196 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: think two teams. If I had to guess, um, the 197 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: Raiders and Bills are going to be fighting for that 198 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: last wild card spot. I would not be surprised at all. 199 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts from your notes, Mark before we move on, 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: because of course we have Kevin Harland coming up after 201 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: this discussion. I think we're both just a little edgy 202 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: and excited about that interview, which you know, I wouldn't 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: say that we don't know what's not going to happen, 204 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: because it already happened and we can promise it that 205 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: it's exciting. The you know, the this is the final 206 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Chargers Raiders game in Oakland and I and I know 207 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: that I'm much more sensitive than some about teams moving 208 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: from city to city. I think the Raiders organization is 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: lucky that they have a national fan base that would 210 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: follow them if they became the Moscow Raiders. I believe 211 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: that you'd still have people dressed in silver and black 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: in Eastern Europe, deep Eastern Europe. I just believe they're 213 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: lucky that that's the case, because this is kind of 214 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: crazy that we're not going to have a Raiders team 215 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: in California for the first time ever at this point. 216 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: And that's to me. I get it, that's the NFL 217 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: moving forward with its business. But I'm goin to kind 218 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: of miss this field with its dirt and it's grime 219 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: and it's a bit of a messy stadium. I get that. 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: But the fact that they're leaving northern California to me, 221 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: is problematic and it's being a bit maskes masked over. 222 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: It's a total dump that facility and the Raiders and 223 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: the and the city of Oakland. They could never get 224 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: on the same page, and the NFL, for whatever reason, 225 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: wasn't able to step in the way they had to 226 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: or needed to or should have or whatever to get 227 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: it done and keep that team there. So it is 228 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: what it is, and we're not even talking about the 229 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: Chargers side of it. It's two teams with strange stories 230 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: on that front. Um, Like Luke Wilson says, Mark, it 231 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: is what it is and it's not what it's not. 232 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: But at least they have the team now, and we've 233 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: talked about it on the show. It's such a credit 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: to Raiders ends who are filling that building for every 235 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: home game. And this could be uh the last primetime 236 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: game ever at that stadium unless something gets flex. There's 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: always the chance of a flex, and the fact that 238 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: they are in the playoff race makes you think it 239 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: could be. And that is a thought, by the way, 240 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: to the people at NBC. You put a Sunday night 241 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: football game with a lot on the line, I mean, 242 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: that would be a great environment for al. Chris and 243 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: Michelle totally agree. I mean, the crowd was a massive 244 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: factor tonight. I thought, just it's you can't say that 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: about every NFL stadium, It is certainly true of the 246 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: black Hole this evening. Neither Joe buck Buck nor Troy 247 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Aikman have been to West Point. That was a a 248 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: weird aside in the game, very weird, unnecessary, potentially uh Strangely, 249 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman said that Richie Incognito does things as a 250 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: guard that he hasn't seen since Larry Allen, his Cowboys 251 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: teammate that went to about forty seven Pro Bowls and 252 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: was elected to the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's 253 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: that felt strong a lot happening. But at the same time, 254 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: whether or not you believe that Richie Incognito deserved another 255 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: chance in the NFL, well he got one. So you 256 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: got to give it up again to the Mayok Rooten 257 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: team because that was not a move that was greeted 258 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: with any level of enthusiasm. And I'll take Eigman's word 259 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: from for it as a former quarterback in the Hall 260 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: of Famer himself, that they have one of the best 261 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: guards in the league and Incognito not bad. Big old 262 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: d g a f by the Raiders. They don't care 263 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: what anyone thinks or what anyone says. They're gonna go 264 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: do it their way and so far, when it's working, 265 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: it's working, and they look like champions tonight. In terms 266 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: of their decision making. We'll see how it plays out. 267 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: It is what it is and it's not what it's not. 268 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: I will say one thing. Kevin Harlan actually texted me, 269 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear this interview really yeah, and the question 270 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: there too that I asked me. He He said, thank you 271 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: for the for cutting through the haze and the fog 272 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: of war to ask the true question. He referred to 273 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: our interview as the fog of what. Well, just he said, 274 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was a lot coming at him and 275 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: these guys that were on too interview with our with 276 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: our podcast, you suddenly have four males coming at you 277 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: with their questions. He said, thank you for asking the 278 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: question that mattered the most to me. I asked the 279 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: question I asked too. So I don't know which one 280 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: he was referring to, but it was one of the two. Well, 281 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: that's exciting. So that is potentially if you were planning to, 282 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, click out of this podcast originally, now you 283 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: got to stay in there because Mark changed just changed things. 284 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: He changed the temperature of the entire industry with one question. 285 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't normally bring that up, but I just thought 286 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: it was it was relevant from an industry giant it 287 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: was the right thing to do, all right. So that's it. 288 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: That's the Raiders. They're playing relevant football the Chargers. Was 289 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: this a dirt knap game? No, not at all, because 290 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the chart is as annoying as the Chargers can be 291 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: with their miss kicks and all their business. They're gonna 292 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: find a way to, Like two weeks from now, we're 293 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: gonna be hyping them up again and talking about how 294 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: edgy and talented they are too. So I'm not in talent. 295 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to bury them yet. Now it's of 296 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: band laws. Thus they got the Chiefs next week, who 297 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: have their quarterback back. All right, So there you go. 298 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Now let's throw it. Mark and I as well as 299 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: West and Greg got a chance to speak with the 300 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: great Kevin Harland, who is obviously one of our very 301 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: favorite broadcasters in the league. So enjoy that and we 302 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: will see you on Sunday night. Now a police matter. 303 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: State troopers come on the field and the cat runs 304 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: into the end zone. That is a touch town and 305 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: the cat is elusive, kind of like Barkley and Elliott, 306 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: but you didn't know where to go. Look at their 307 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: trying to corner them, and they got him in the 308 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: end zone. There are State troopers all around this cant 309 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: which now climbs up into the stands and the fans 310 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: are running for their lot. Now that goes back down 311 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: the field again and it's running in the back of 312 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: the end zone and it runs up the tunnel. Oh there. 313 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: It is the call of the year so far. And 314 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: if someone's making the call of the year, you know 315 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: it's got to be Kevin Harland, one of our very 316 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: favorite broadcasters in the game right now, maybe our favorite. 317 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: And we're so lucky because for the first time he's 318 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: joining us here on the Around the NFL podcast. Kevin, 319 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: what's up? Well, thank you for your kind words. Great 320 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: to be on with you, guys, Thank you very much. 321 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: It's it's it's fun to join you. And in the 322 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: aftermath of the Black Cat at the stadium in the 323 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: in the middle ends, So is it is it like 324 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: you hear when players when there's a big play and 325 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: they have a huge game and they're like, oh, yeah, 326 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: it looked at my phone and it's just blowing up. 327 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't even like pick up my phone without the 328 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: mentions piling up to the point where my battery is 329 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: running out. Does that happen to you when you have 330 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: a viral hit like you had today this week, Well, um, 331 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: you know what happened in the first half in the 332 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: game was a good game because the Giants were driving 333 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: again and they had a lead over Dallas. And so 334 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're so focused, especially in radio, where you've 335 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: just you've really got to keep your focus. You're gonna 336 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: get messed up with all the sub packages and substitutions 337 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: on on both sides of the ball. And and and 338 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: here was an important drive and they had just completed 339 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: an important play to Evan Ingram, their their their young 340 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: emerging tight end, and the cat was standing at the 341 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: fifty watching it. Then they stopped play. And that's when 342 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: we diverted our attention to the cat and watched its 343 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: movements down so as it was really and so it happened, 344 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: and then and then I forget what the Giants did. 345 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: But but but you know, the game's going on. It 346 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: was in the first half, and I never looked at 347 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: my phone unless I called my wife at halftime to 348 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: say good night. And that's what I was doing. I 349 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: was calling her and I go, what are at least 350 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: texts on you? As I put my I put my phone. 351 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: I put my phone in the in in my briefcase. 352 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: So um I called her and and and and she said, hey, 353 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: people are texting me about this. Can't call. They can't call. 354 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: And then it just from that. And then I still 355 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: put it away after the call with her because I thought, 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they're in trouble, okay, and so you never know. 357 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Don't be humble by the way, Kevin, you're being too humble. 358 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: The greatness and we we talked about it on to 359 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: our Tuesday episode. Was not just It wasn't like you 360 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: were calling the game and then you went to the cat. No, Harlan, 361 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: he won full flex on the entire industry because you 362 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: called two events at the same time. You called the 363 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Ingram play as it was developing, and you called the 364 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: cat when you throw the sponsor read in. You had 365 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: to have we had to have like known in the 366 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: back of air had this is magic? Oh well you 367 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: know listen that Howard dinner off is our was was 368 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: her producer, and he was giving me the card because 369 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: the Giants at the other end, we're about ready to 370 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: enter the cd W red Zone. C W people, you 371 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: can count on that check. Uh So I had it 372 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: right there. And then I'm looking at the cat and 373 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: the card is in my hand, and I get a 374 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: nudge and so I read the card as it turned out, 375 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: So we didn't want to miss a sponsor a couple 376 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: regardless of who was scoring the cat or the giants, 377 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: it's been so good for the league. I think that that. 378 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: You know, we all have kids, and they absolutely loved 379 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: watching this wildcat run around the field. Would you it 380 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: was good for you as well? Would you be an 381 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: advocate of saying the NFL introducing more wild animals into 382 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: game situation, maybe an angry deer, two hundred mice or something. Well, 383 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: if we can have the cats chase the mice, that 384 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: might be good. You know, it's weird to have an 385 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: animal on the This is actually my my second animal 386 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and then third um interruption of a game when I 387 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: was at ESPN back in the early nineties, rabbit ran 388 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: on the field. This was an Elvis gerback Michigan quarterback 389 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: team against Halloween in West Lafayeenne, Indianna. And I was 390 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: working with Craig James um And and the rabbit was 391 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: at midfield. They stopped playing. The rabbit ran right down 392 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Like a back and uh 393 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: and then cut like at the five, then into the 394 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: end zone and I called that. And then we had 395 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: the drunk guy on the field in San Francisco a 396 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Another animal that was another animal. Wait, Kevin, 397 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: can you pause right there. Let's let's listen to that's 398 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: that's what really like. We've known you for years as 399 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: football fans and sports fans, but that's when he became 400 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: a legend on this podcast. Let's listen to a little 401 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: bit of that call. Hey, somebody is running out on 402 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: the field, So I'm goofball on a hat and a 403 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: red shirt. Now he takes off the shirt. He's running 404 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: down the middle by the fifty. He's at the thirty. 405 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: He's bear chested him, banging his chest. Now he runs 406 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: the opposite way. He runs with the fifty, he runs 407 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: with the forty. The guy is drunk. But there he 408 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: goes the twenty. They're chasing up. They're not gonna get him, 409 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: waving his arms, bear chested. Somebody stopped that. He comes 410 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: to the blue coat. They got him here? Comes from? 411 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: Were they talking calling about the forty yard line? That 412 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: that's performative, though, Kevin and I and and in the 413 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: best way, your your sense in that moment, and just 414 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: like what happened on Monday night, you're rising to that occasion, right, 415 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: you said it that you have that's some that fun 416 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: with their Well, that guy ran right through the rams 417 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: slot receiver positions, so it was like here, he ran 418 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: right through the offense, through the defense, and the players 419 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: just stood there and looked and did not move, and 420 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: no security guys came out to chase him until the 421 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: very end of his romps. So he was out there 422 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: for a good minute plus. And the cat, you know, 423 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: had some staying power to the cat the other night, 424 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: stayed on the field for a long time. And the 425 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: fact that it went to the fifty as the play 426 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: was going on, watching the play. Then play had stopped 427 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and they all looked at the cat, and then he 428 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: retreated and went the other way, you know, made it 429 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: for you know, when they're on there for a while, 430 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: you've got something to kind of work with. And and 431 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, I listen, I don't want to be known 432 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: as the guy that calls you know, animals and drunks 433 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: on the field. But they've just kind of happened, and 434 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: they both happened on radio I should mention, you know, 435 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: because radio is all about, you know, being the eyes 436 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: of the listener and gribing what you see. And if 437 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: I'm in the stands or watching on TV, what I 438 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: see is a drunk or what I see in this 439 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: case was the black cat. They didn't show the drunk 440 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: on TV, but they didn't show the cat. And if 441 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: that's what we're all watching, then I felt, I guess, 442 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: compelled to call it, and and did. And I think, listen, 443 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of this was powered by a 444 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of animal lovers out there, to a lot of 445 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: cat lovers, and and they enjoy their pet, and they 446 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching the cat. And hopefully there was nothing malicious 447 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: that happened to the cat once it left. And we're 448 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: still looking for and yeah, I'm sure they are. Do 449 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: you ever have telemarketers call you on the phone to 450 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: try to sell you product X, Y or Z and 451 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: stop cold when they realize matching the name with the voice, 452 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: Because even just listening to you, it's like I'm just 453 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: suddenly in game mode listening to you announce. It must 454 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: happen occasionally, Well, at airports, maybe sometimes it will happen. 455 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: If I'm talking to a friend or at a restaurant 456 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: with my family. Um, but that real use only. Yet, 457 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, they know my voice probably more than they 458 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: know me because our stand ups on CBS are very short, 459 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: and I t n T for the NBA very short, 460 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: and then a lot of them know me for the 461 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: two K NBA video game. And then again, of course 462 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: that's a voice only too, so so a little bit 463 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: from that. But you know, I don't know. I I'm 464 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: not sure how there's a nice Uh. It's always nice 465 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: to be you know, somebody, Hey, I know that voice 466 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: or something like that, but it's uh, I do when 467 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm not on I just soon be a dad and husband, 468 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: just to reach just a regular guy. When when we're 469 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: talking to you now, you're in your hotel room, you're 470 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: preparing for your T n T basketball game. I don't 471 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: know if you you've noticed Kevin that Joe Buck every 472 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: year now with Thursday night football and World Series, he 473 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: gets a lot of pop from doing you know, huge 474 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: series game after game and then he's got Thursday night 475 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: and Sunday night and everyone's wow, well, this is the 476 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: hardest working guy in the business. But I know your 477 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: schedule and you you're doing NFL on Sundays, you're doing 478 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: NFL Radio on Mondays. Then you're doing like Lakers Clippers 479 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and another NBA game on Thursday. Do you 480 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: sometimes think like Buck is a little soft compared like 481 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: you deserve a little ahead? Only only because they worked 482 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: with Joe and Fox for those four years and know him. 483 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I would say, Joe is a tough guy and like 484 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: his dad, you know, his dad was a workhorse like 485 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: this too. It's funny, you know in this you know 486 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: what Tom Brennaman and Kenny Albert over at Fox and 487 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: and Joe, all three of their dads were in the business. 488 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: My dad was in pro football for thirty seven years 489 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: with the Packers and and um and ran the team 490 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: for twenty one of those years. And I you know, 491 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: grew up in in in that environment and pro football 492 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: and know what, you know what what kind of an 493 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: endless clock it is, and and where there really is 494 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: no beginning or end of the season. It's like just 495 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: one continuous season. And maybe some of that has carried 496 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: over to broadcasting. I don't know that any of the 497 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: four of us would say that we purposefully try to 498 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: work as many events. I guess it's more for me 499 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: and I'll speak for them. It's that we all kind 500 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: of love the business so much. We love the business 501 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: now if it ever gets in the way of our families, 502 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: then it becomes another story. Luckily, you know, we all 503 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: four probably married the right gale who could you know, 504 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: put up with the schedule, and and if we're lucky 505 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: up being able to take you know, family and our 506 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: wives with us when we go to these games, and 507 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: for instance, at the super Bowl, when I do the 508 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I always we always bring it. We have 509 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: four kids and we bring them all in with their 510 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: spouses and now a grandchild and flying to the super 511 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: Bowl and have a kind of a celebration and more 512 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: of a thank you for putting up with a kind 513 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: of a tough schedule for the fall. But they've aren't 514 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: grown up in it. And and my kids, we have 515 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: three girls and a boy. But my girls, who all 516 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: were cheerleaders in high school. You know, I always made 517 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: it a point to be there on Friday nights and 518 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: never missed a game. Or we have our our sons, 519 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: our baby, and and never missed any of his games. 520 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: So I'd like to think that they never thought you 521 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: had dad was busy, but Dad never missed any of 522 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: the important events. And I think they'd all say that. 523 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: So I do feel kind of good about that. And 524 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: all right, Kevin, you have a better dad than us. 525 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Way to go. You nailed it, Hey, Kevin, that's not 526 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: that's amazing. When uh, when I get a Tony Romo game, 527 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: I like to get out of bottle of wine and 528 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: just enjoy the show. And you know, we're big fans 529 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: of John Madden. But with your dad being in football 530 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: and your fandom probably going back a long time, is 531 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: there a play by play guy who's a personal favorite 532 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: of yours, either from the olden days or even now. Well, 533 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I I was attracted the voices first, and and really 534 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, um, when I was about 535 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: eight nine years old, I remember distinctly because um, when 536 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: I heard the voice, I automatically started paying attention to 537 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: pro football. And the voice was John Facenda, and I just, 538 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: I just I had heard his voice, yes, and heard 539 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: his voice narrate UM Highlight show, and have always been 540 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: kind of that in the back of my mind. I 541 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: always hear Facenda his voice. In fact, before I leave 542 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: my hotel room on Sunday mornings, for the stadium for 543 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: my CBS game on Sunday afternoon. I always on my phone. 544 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: I've got a clip of him saying that the the 545 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: Raider's poem, that the autumn wind, and and it's not 546 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: necessarily to get me thinking voice. It's me to be 547 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: in the moment of how lucky I am to be 548 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: doing the NFL, and I think his voice, and I 549 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: think about where it all began for me, and here 550 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: I am in my late fifties, and as an eight 551 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: year old, I remember distinctly hearing his voice in NFL films, 552 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: and it just kind of kind of it's me on 553 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: points my compass in the right direction when I hear 554 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: his voice. I've always done that, and I hope I 555 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: do it to my last broadcast in the NFL, and 556 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: this my thirty fifth year doing it. But uh and 557 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: and but but voices Summer all Jim Simpson, Crookie, you 558 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: know those are the voice obviously, Race Scott, you know, 559 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: I guess those voices are the ones I remember the 560 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: most in my mind when I think about what I 561 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: want my voice to sound like. It doesn't sound like 562 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 1: any of theirs. Unfortunately, You're kind of you're kind of 563 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: given what you're given her and and so. But that, 564 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: in my mind, that's the void. Those are the voices 565 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I hear and I that brings a smile to my face, 566 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: especially Facinda, who I dealt with briefly when I was 567 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: in college. I used to produce the Chiefs Radio Network 568 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: pregame show. And I was like a sophomore, junior, and 569 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: senior in college at the University of Kansas. And I 570 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: called NFL Films one day and just on a whim, 571 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is like back in the late seventies, 572 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: early eighty and I called NFL Films and I asked 573 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: if I could talk to John Facenda and said just them, 574 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: And I called and I talked to him, and Mr Facenda, 575 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: would you mind if you if I sent you some 576 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: copy and would you mind taping the open to this 577 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: radio network show that we do three hours before the 578 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs game. And he said, and he said, send me 579 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: something and I'll be happy to do it. So I 580 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: sent him something, and about two weeks later, I get 581 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: this reel to reel uh thing back and um um 582 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: and and I stick it on the machine and I 583 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: threaded in and I hit play, and here is John 584 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: Facenda saying, you're listening to a chief someday on k 585 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: CMO Radio and the Chiefs Radio Network and on there, 586 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: But on there, there was a moment where he wanted 587 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: to change a portion of the copy, and he changed 588 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: it and read it the way he wanted to be 589 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: and goes, ah, Now that's a horror that I can ride. 590 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: And I just loved that. I just I think about him, 591 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: and I think about the voice, and I think about 592 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: how kind you was to me as a young aspiring broadcaster. 593 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: So I play his I play his clip of that 594 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: raider poem every time before I leave my my room 595 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Wow, that's awesome, Kevin. I mean, you've you've 596 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: had an incredible career and you've got a lot more 597 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: to go. In fact, you've called nine consecutive Super Bowls 598 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: for Westwood One. You're only trailing Jack Buck actually, who's 599 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: had seventeen. So we hope you actually break that record 600 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: and we get to hear you for years to come 601 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: across all the sports spectrum. So thank you so much 602 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: for joining us, and uh we'll continue to enjoy your calls, 603 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: not just the drunk animals and the other animals and 604 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: also the smooth, prepared way in which you approach all 605 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: the sports you've covered. Thank you, thank you. You know 606 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: I would love a drunk animal to get out animal. 607 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: I will have a call ready for a drunk animal 608 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: will break all awesome. And why don't we, Why don't 609 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: we play out today's episode with the Autumn Wind as 610 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: we say goodbye to the great Kevin Arnold. Thank you guys, 611 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: thank you n The Autumn Wind is a pirate blustering 612 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: in from sea with a rollicking palm. He sweeps along, 613 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: swaggering voicelessly. His face is weather beaten. He wears a 614 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: hooded sash, with a silver hat about his hand and 615 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: a bristling black mustache. He growls as he storms the country, 616 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: a villain, big and bowls, and the trees all shake 617 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: and quiver and quick as he robs him of their gold. 618 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: The Autumn Wind is a raider, pillaging just for fun. 619 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: He'll knock you round and upside down and laugh when 620 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: he's conquered and won.