1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome once again to the Huntday Texans 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Radio studio. It is Mark Vandermer for Texans All Access 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Tonight with from the Houston Chronicle, John McClain, the general General. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: How's it going tonight? It is going absolutely great. We're 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: headed to Orlando for the NFL meetings, which is always 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: very eventful. A lot of things we're going to be discussing, 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: like what is a catch they're supposed to make easier. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: There will be discussions about national anthem and kneeling, and 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: they'll pass some rules changes. One's they claim is getting hot, 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: but I just don't. I don't buy it. The college 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: interference rule that means every pass is more than fifteen yards, 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the DB's going to abuse the receiver and it's going 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: to be a fifteen yard penalty. Well, I think that's 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: bad for the game. There is a report that the 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Competition Committee is not in favor of the fifteen yard penalty, 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: but I would be in favor of it. They were 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: talking about flagrant if you will, I'm not going to 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: use that's not the proper terminology. But you know, if 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: you had a breakaway a clear path to use NBA 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: terminology or a basketball terminology, I would get that that 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: would be a spot foul. And maybe just like we 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: went to the five yard penalty. Remember in the days 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: when there was no five yard bump penalty, there was 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: no defensive holding penalty, right, so it used to be 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: passing interference wherever it would be. Yeah, so at least 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: we solved that part of it. I think there is 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: a solution out there. I'm not quite so sure how 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: to word it right now. If you do that, it's 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: it's putting too much strain on the officials. I believe 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: if you either make it fifteen or you make it 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: at the spot, if anybody's not enjoying the NFL, I 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: don't think that has anything to do with it. There's 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: got to be other reasons besides passing interference. Work on 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the catch thing that's gotten the most controversy. Make it 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: a common sense And I go back to what Bill 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: O'Brien said when Bill was earned at a call that 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: went against the Texans. He said, if it's a catch 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: in the backyard, and it's a ketch on the street, 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and it's a catch in high school, it's a catch 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: in college, it ought to be a catch in the NFL. 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: But there are arguments in the backyard, and there are 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: certainly arguments in college. And I have to say this, 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: I think that one of the proposals out there does 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. All Right, you're making the 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: football move or you have three steps. I'm not saying 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: you always require three steps, but you're making the football 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: move if you took three steps and then it comes out. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean really, So there are different ways to look 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: at it. And there was a third subjective element. Some 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: of this is going to be subjective. I have no 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: doubt about that. But we can always go back to 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: the review if we have to. And I know it 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: slows down the game, but it does come up. I 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: am for reviewing anything you want to review. Coaches challenge, 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: but you don't get more challenges. Therefore, therefore the gate 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: would not be slowed down. And what about passe interfairts? 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Would you be in favor of reviewing passe interfairts not 58 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: a non call but a call if you achieve that 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: if a coach being able to challenge any call, that 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: he's got the say any call, but he's got the 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: same number of challenges. And the thing is, if a 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: ball is possessed, if a guy catches the ball, Why 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: does he need to take three steps. If he catches 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: the ball and he has it and takes one step 65 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: and gets the snot knocked out of him, it's a fumble. 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: And I don't care if it's three steps or two. 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: You can see him have the ball heaven in his 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: arm or firmly in his hands. If it's bobbling, that's different. 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: That's incomplete. But it just doesn't seem to be that 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: tough of a rule other than that's what the NFL 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: has made it. And I think sometimes you know the owners, 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: they will go against coaches, but in this case, when 73 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: it comes to interference and the and what's a fumble, 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: I believe the owners will listen carefully to their coaches. Well, 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: I like your challenge idea, I really do, especially since 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: a few years ago we went to challenging or an 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: automatic review really of all turnovers and of all scoring plays. 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Remember it, that did not exist prior to a few 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: years ago. So you would have to challenge a scoring 80 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: play or challenge a turnover if you didn't like it. 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: And now that's automatically done, so you don't have to 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: invest those challenge flags into those situations. You can save 83 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: them for the other challengeable opportunities. Challengeable and I like 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: your idea of being able to challenge pass interference holding. 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: It gets a little touchy. Bat care what it is. 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: If a pass rusher is coming around and he's about 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: to have a strip sack and a guard pulls him down, 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: you should be able to throw the flag and they 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: look at it and they go, Okay, that's holding. And 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: even a non call a non call. Yeah, non calls 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: a lot oftentimes are more blatant than they are. Think 92 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: about Watton Clowney, how much time they get hell. I 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: know you got to watch the ball because you do 94 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: play by play, but sometime I just focus on the 95 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: best players, not with the ball. Yeah, And I'm always 96 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: fastened they did. How much Watton Clowney and all the 97 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: great pass rushers get hell. And it's almost like the 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: officials will look away unless they're like pulling their pants 99 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: down or something. Yeah, it's it's a penalty on them. 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: They get penalized for being so good sometimes at their crowd. 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: It's like basketball. You can take six steps if you want. 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: If you're a great player, they don't call traveling. Yeah. Wow, 103 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: all the great ones deserve a little break, but sometimes 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: when it's blatant and it affects the play, there should 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: be a call. John. You mentioned at owners meetings next week? 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: Better for you. Owners meetings are combined as an offseason content, 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: so much more interesting. I can't say this on the air, 108 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and whoever's listening, please don't tell my bosses. But the 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: best thing about the owners meetings is the networking, the 110 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: fact it's the last time most people will get their 111 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: head coach before the draft, because Bill O'Brien doesn't talk 112 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: before the draft. It was Rick Smith in the past. 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: Now it'll be Brian, so we because you'll be there. 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: And one thing I hate what the NFL has done. 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Used to AFC and NFC coaches, breakfasts were separate days, 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: and I don't care if they're back to back and 117 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: you have to bragas, but don't put them all at 118 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: one time like they're doing now. I like to spend 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: time with Bill. Bill's real good in that setting with 120 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: media there, and I like to go to other AFC 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: South coaches. I'd like to go talk to Kyle Shanahan 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: about Jimmy g and things like that. But in an 123 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: hour you can't get as much accomplished. So to me, 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: that is the best thing. Plus, you know, Bob McNair's there, 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: cal gain Ever of Jamie Roods. Everybody is there and 126 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: it's a very relaxed setting. As you know, you know, 127 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: once we get to training camp, everybody gets a little tight, 128 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: but in this case it's very relaxed. The wives are there, 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: they're having a blast. There's a bash at Disney on 130 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I think Tuesday night, and so this is fun. But 131 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: it's not like the Combine, which is wall to wall news, 132 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: constant work information daily plus about the draft, and I 133 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: think it's much more interesting. It is interesting to be 134 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: at the owners meetings when you see the owners and 135 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: coaches and GM's all kind of let their hair down, 136 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: so to speak. I like it. Some of these owners 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: have Like when Daniel Snyder was here, he had security 138 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: everywhere with him and when they went to I think 139 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: what River Oaks, he had security. But in this thing, 140 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: if they have security, I don't see it. You know, 141 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: they have a big bash and you can walk through 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: all the owners and hang out and talk to him 143 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: and it's very very informal, and some agents will be there. 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: And did you see Robert Airs the defensive end thirty 145 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: two was cut. He's gonna drive there and lobby owners 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: and gems and coaches for a job, and I hope 147 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: for him being so resourceful that he gets a job 148 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: like that, although Art I'm sure they would rather talk 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: to his agent, of course. But if he goes to 150 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: the reception and he's in line at the shrimp cocktail 151 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: table with you know, Robert Kraft or whoever. I mean, 152 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: good for him. He's able to network, and hob think 153 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: that's great. And if it works, you're gonna see more 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: players doing it until I'll have to ban him. Yeah, 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: it'll be like a job fair instead of the owner's meetings. 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: But they have a lot to cover. We talked about 157 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: the catch rule, we talked about some of the other 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: rule stuff you mentioned, anthem stuff. A lot of different 159 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: subjects will come up. I also like getting that general 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: state of the League address from Roger Goodell because he 161 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: does talk about the popularity of the league, where it's 162 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: going TV ratings, and it was a challenging year or 163 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: two for the NFL in that category. It must be 164 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: interesting to you, John, especially having covered the league for 165 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: so long. It's interesting to me because I really started 166 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,479 Speaker 1: watching the league heavily in the early eighties on television 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: and to see how it's changed. And now you have 168 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that extra screen coming in with everybody's phone. It's gonna 169 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: change even more in the next few years. And then 170 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the TV contracts come up, and that's gonna be very 171 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: interesting to see how they reshape the TV agreements in 172 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: the next wave. I was just looking at Amazon seven 173 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: hundred and something billion. You think they couldn't become a 174 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: partner with the NFL and that'd be tip money for 175 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Bisos. And so one of those companies, Apple hadn't 176 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: showed any interest, Google has, Facebook did. One of them 177 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: is going to come in like when Direct TV did, 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: and people are like, Wow, Direct TV's paying them a 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: lot of money. Somebody's gonna step in there and make 180 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: them an offer that just blows their socks off. It's 181 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: just like people are talking about the declining interests in 182 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, right, Well, Fox is paying them hundreds 183 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: of millions more to get the Thursday night game as 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: well as the draft. And now ESPN's announced it's not 185 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: backing off on the draft. So you're gonna have ESPN, 186 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Fox and the NFL network all doing draft related stuff. 187 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: ESPN is bringing in its college game Day crew to 188 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: be involved in the draft. So if there was less 189 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: interest in the NFL, would all these big time media 190 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: players be trying everything they could to get involved. I 191 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: don't think so well. I found it interesting not only 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: John Gruden leaving to coach the Raiders Monday Night Football, 193 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: now that you brought up ESPN, but Sean McDonough no 194 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: longer a part of Monday Night Football. Did you like 195 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: McDonald's played by play? I didn't have an issue. I liked. 196 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: I didn't like so many bad games, and I don't 197 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: blame him. Now. I don't ever watch a game to 198 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: watch announcers, although I have to admit, if Peyton Manning 199 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: takes the Fox job, I will watch the first game 200 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: because he's Peyton and I expect him to be great. 201 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't. I don't get to watch most 202 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: of them because I'm covering the Texans. But when I 203 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: read about how great Romo was, my first chance I got. 204 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: I listened to Tony Romo, and not because he was 205 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Tony Romo, but because everybody see he's doing such a 206 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: good job. But Peyton, who doesn't want to work on weekend, 207 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: so that rules out Monday Night Football. They're saying he's 208 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: being offered ten million a year to basically work hard 209 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: one day and do a day of prep and if 210 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: he takes it considered he wants to run a team, 211 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: will be careful of criticism because he's trying to like 212 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: he's trying to run a franchise, so going to be 213 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: watching him like crazy. So um, that's the only time. 214 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: And mcdonnah wasn't happy, and he went out firing some volleys, 215 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: some salvos, which was kind of surprising. But I don't 216 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: think he and Gruden never really hit it off. I 217 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: don't think they had much of an on air rapport. 218 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I think McDonagh is extremely solid as. I just never 219 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: liked him on Monday Night Football. I just never thought 220 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: that he was that kind of guy, and he strikes 221 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: me as a lesser Bob Costas in this way. I 222 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: think mcdonnah's got great ability, but it's almost like you 223 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: get the feeling like, yes, I'm doing this game and 224 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I'd rather not be here, but I'll do it. I'll 225 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: do it well now that I am here. But I 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: still look at him. I lived in Boston when he 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: was the TV voice of the Red Sox. He actually 228 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: lost that gig. He's lost a lot of good gigs. 229 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: He was CBS national play by play voice for baseball 230 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: on television. So he's had a lot of great gigs. 231 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be would he have had all these great 232 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: gigs if his name was vandermir Well, A lot of 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: people don't know that that. Will McDonough was an all 234 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: time journalist in Boston for the Boston Globe. Was the 235 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: first journalist to go to TV as an insider for NBC. 236 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't remember that, I think because 237 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I think people hiring today are older and they do 238 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and they do remember him. Yeah, And if they don't remember, 239 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: it didn't work with Will, who's dead, as they'd heard 240 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: about it. Well. Will was not a great writer, necessarily right, 241 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: but a great information guy. He was correct. He was 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,239 Speaker 1: a really good reporter because he had so many contacts 243 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: going back to covering the original AFL And so because 244 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: of that, to mcdonna, name is gold up in New England? 245 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: And where is ESPN based New England? Yeah, I guess 246 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: it's all part of the deal up there. I mean 247 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: Theracuse and ESPN and never mind. Don't get me started 248 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: on all of that. All right, the General's gonna stay 249 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: with us. We have a lot to talk about free agency. 250 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: The first wave is over. It's safe to say that 251 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: there are many other follow up waves, ripples, if you will, 252 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: that are on the way for the Texans. What could 253 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: some of those be, and also our thoughts on the 254 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: first wave and how it affects the rest of the 255 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: AFC South. That is all coming up on Texans Radio. 256 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. 257 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Texans All Access is the program name, and if you're 258 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: listening live or later on on a podcast, we welcome you. 259 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: And John McClain is with us from the Houston Chronicle. General, 260 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: We've got the honey Badger in the house and a 261 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: lot of excitement around him. Your reaction to getting him 262 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Friday night when the news started to break, and the 263 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: reaction from the teammates, a lot of excitement around this 264 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: acquisition for this franchise. I broke at ten fifty pm 265 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: Friday night, which is getting really close to deadline for 266 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: those of us as to have deadlines. And most of 267 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: my stories, some of it was in the Chronicle, most 268 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: of them was oncron dot com and I had been 269 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: writing that they were pursuing him. I knew they had 270 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: an interest, and when I asked Brian Gaine about it, 271 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: he said he wouldn't speak specifically about Matthews, but he said, 272 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: if a player is talented, fits our culture, what we 273 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: want in their program, and the budget, we're interested. Well, 274 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: he signed a one year deal for six point five million. 275 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: He can make another five hundred thousand in per game 276 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: roster bonuses for a maximum contract of seven million. He 277 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: counts seven million under the cap. I believe Aaron Colvin 278 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: is the best free agent based on I played last 279 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: year because he was really, really good. Matthew was pretty 280 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: inconsistent coming off of major injury, even though he played 281 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: more snaps than the player in the league. But Colvin 282 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: and Matthew's cap figure is less than the cat figure 283 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: of Nate Soldier with the Giants, who y'all were interested, 284 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: But as Gaine said, he was going to spread it around, 285 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: not go after specifically one or two guys, because let's 286 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: faces and it is not a one off season of 287 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: retooling efforts, so to speak. So I thought Matthew, who 288 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: is very, very respected, he is a really good leader 289 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: from what everybody's told me. In Arizona, people an organization, 290 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: people in the media covered the team, and I thought 291 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: it was very interesting. And I asked Matthew about this 292 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: once he was released, because he wouldn't reduce his contract 293 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: from eleven to eight million meeting getting he's getting a 294 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: million less here, wouldn't you like to be able to 295 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: make that kind of decision? And he as soon as 296 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: he was released on the start of the league here 297 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: all these players, media people, people in organization were just 298 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: tweeting the nicest things about him, about what he'd meant 299 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: to them, wishing him the best of luck. I think 300 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: having him him on the back end with if you 301 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: think about this Mark, and I know you have, if 302 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: you think about Okay, you got Aaron Colvin, you got Merciless, 303 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: you got McKinney, cunning In played really well down the stretch, 304 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: you got what and you got Reader and that is 305 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: a pretty impressive defensive lineup. That's not m counting j 306 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: Joe and Jackson and Kevin Johnson and and Andre Howell, 307 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: but having Matthew on the back end, but he also 308 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: is I'm sorry he'll be playing around the line of 309 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: scrimmage and Andre Haliby played deep when they play it 310 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: that way. But I think he's gonna help on the 311 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: field and off the field. And I really like the 312 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: fact he said he wants to make an impact off 313 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: the field in the community, especially with kids. He had 314 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: done that out there as well. Getting him for a 315 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: one year deal great for the Texans and really good 316 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: for him because if he plays well, you'll extend him 317 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: like they did in Arizona. Well. I like the fact 318 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: that you can negotiate with him before he hits the market, 319 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: so he has a good season. He likes it here 320 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: you're able to work out a deal before he gets 321 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: on the open market, and that's gonna be huge for 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: this team potentially. Also, Rick Smith didn't negotiate during the season, 323 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: and if you have a one year deal like that, 324 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: remember last year in Philadelphia signed all Shan Jeffrey, the 325 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: receiver for Chicago one year deal and he really worked 326 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: hard and played well and then they extended him during 327 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: the season. So we don't have anything to go on 328 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: on Brian gag because it's his first year as general manager. 329 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: This time next year, we're gonna have an idea about that. 330 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Would he sign him during the season or would he 331 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: wait till after the season, so you didn't have any 332 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: kind of distractions. I already liked what they did before 333 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: the honey batcher, and then after the honey batcher. You 334 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: have to love it, you said on the back end, 335 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: because you have Tyran Matthew, Aaron Colvin, Johnson, Battle Mossy 336 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: not projected to play regularly in the defensive backfield, but 337 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: he can't started three games of the Patriots last year, 338 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of options. Went at it 339 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: like this. You have six guys and one of them 340 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: is going to be off the field during nickel situations. 341 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: When you talk about Kareem Jackson, Jonathan Joseph, Kevin Johnson, 342 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Colvin, Tyron Matthew, Andre Howe. That's six players, So 343 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: somebody gets voted off the island in a nickel situation. 344 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: If everybody's healthy, that's pretty interesting. That's good depth right there. 345 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna have borring injuries, some tough cuts. You know, 346 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: players make their biggest improvement usually between the first and 347 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: second season. That would bode well for Tresden Decu. Who's 348 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: the biggest one they got. Matta Mosey's got good size. 349 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: He looks like a safety, but he's a corner. Corey 350 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Moorey signed. They've got a lot of players there, and 351 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna have more because I think we both believe 352 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: they're not going through a draft where they have multiple 353 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: pigs and not draft another cornerback. You probably get asked 354 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: this a lot. I get asked this a lot. Watt's health. 355 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: We don't know. We're not as doctor. We're not, you know, 356 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: spending time with JJ every day and going over his 357 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: health situation. But what do you tell people when they 358 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: ask you about I tell people that Bill O'Brien and 359 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: has said publicly he's ahead of schedule. Now that doesn't 360 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: mean I think they will, And I tell him I 361 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: believe they will approach Kemp with what the same as 362 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: last year. Practice a day, take a day off, practice 363 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: two days, take a day off. Really, let's be honest. 364 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Romeo Cordell's back at defensive coordinator. What is what gonna 365 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: learn from Romeo? Nothing? What does Romeo need to teach him? Nothing? 366 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: They need just to let him get healthy at whatever 367 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: speed he needs to go, let him play a little 368 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: bit in preseason like he did last year, and then 369 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: ha him ready to go to the start of the season. 370 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: And I thought it was very unfair last year where 371 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: people expect him to go from having two back surgeries 372 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: to be in Superman the first game. That's not the 373 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: way it happens. You don't turn it on and off 374 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: like a faucet. You gotta It's a like trying to 375 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: warm up the hot water. You turn it on and 376 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: eventually it gets hotter and hotter and hotter. And that's 377 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: what I think what happened with what last year. He 378 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to show that because he went 379 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: down in the fifth game. So I tell him everybody 380 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: that J. J. Watt, barring an unforeseen setback, will be 381 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: starting at left defensive end when they play their first game. Now, 382 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: same question with Deshaun Watson. When you get asked about him, 383 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: I go back to he's got He says he's gonna 384 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: do some things in the OTA's and he expects to 385 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: be ready to go at training camp, and uh uh, 386 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: he better be because it looks like he and uh 387 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Heineke Haneken Heineke are gonna be the only quarterbacks out 388 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: there because he hadn't signed a backup yet. Yeah, and 389 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: that's a hot topic and the semi hot they'll get 390 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: a backup. But I think too they're gonna be they 391 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: haven't seen him reab. He's been through reab before, are 392 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: an ACL They've got a they've got Jeff Kaplan who's 393 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: a tremendous trainer, they've got great doctors. They've got Luke Richardson, 394 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: the new director of Sports Performance. He'll have a role 395 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: in it. So they're gonna kind of and they'll rely 396 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot on Watson since he's been through it. But 397 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: there's no doubt based on everything I've heard, he's not 398 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna be ready to go. If not the first day 399 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: of camp. Certainly during camp, did the morning show guys, 400 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: do this with you if you had to back up 401 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: quarterback Brock or Shob I brought that up. Oh, we 402 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: thought Shop was unrestricted. He was not, So that made 403 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: it a mood point and we both said, uh no, yeah, 404 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: but if you had to between the two, yeah, I 405 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: tell you Bill would take Shop and Heart. Of course 406 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: you'd take Shop. Bill takes even he would take shop 407 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: Man and Blayton so long, who knows how he would 408 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: play well to me and the I saw him a 409 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: little bit in the preseason last year because I'm still 410 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: interested in following him and how he's doing. And it 411 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of his armishes are behind him, 412 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: because we always talk about this, how it looked like 413 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: some mph had come off the fastball, which wasn't that 414 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: fast to begin with with Shop, but that was a 415 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: big part of his problems, I think in twenty thirteen 416 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: and fourteen. But it looks like the velocity is back 417 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: to where it wasn't. Obviously he's an older guy now, 418 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: but man, they're all He's accomplished in this league, and 419 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: he's smart. If I had to choose between those two 420 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: guys is to know Brainer, of course, everybody would take Matt. Now, 421 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: did you see Osweiler is visiting Miami? They got Matt 422 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: Moore has been the backup there since two thousand and 423 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: eleven and his thirty three And I've wondered, will they 424 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Texans sign a guy like Matt Moore who was with 425 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Brian Gaine for years when Brian was there? Would they 426 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: go back to Brandon Whedon, who is the one I'd 427 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: really like to see them. Bran he's the easiest option 428 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: of all that are out there. He knows the people 429 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: go Whedon why would you want Wadon? I said, well, 430 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: when you have to play, aren't you supposed to win? 431 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: And he's two and oh oh with the Texans, look 432 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: at the situation last year, would you have wanted Whedon? 433 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Of course, of course you would have wanted. Yeah, he's 434 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: got a good arm, he's a first round former, a 435 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: first round raft choice, got a lot of athletic talent, 436 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: knows the system, great guy everybody likes. And you're not 437 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: one of Oh you're like one and a half an 438 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: ozho with him? Well, he one an Indy off the beach, 439 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: off the beach, so he's one of the half though 440 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't a start, but he's still as he wanted Indian. 441 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Then who they beat Jacksonville, h Tennessee, Tennessee, and he 442 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: ran for a touchdown of the game. And I think 443 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: he could run a lot of this Watson stuff and 444 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: h so I think he'd be ideal. But Matt Moore 445 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: can do all those same things too. And I don't 446 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: know what what the hold up is. I just you know, 447 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: they worked out Lamar Jackson and the reason is, like 448 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: people are, oh my god, why would they work out 449 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson without a first and second round pick. O'Brien 450 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: explained it. He said, we like to visit with and 451 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: work out players that we're gonna be going against. There's 452 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: a good chance we want to get to know. We 453 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: want to see what they're all about. It doesn't cost 454 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: much money to do that, flag of course not and 455 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: so but I like the fact it's like to and 456 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: due diligence. Plus four years from now, three may have 457 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: a chance to sign him. So I think that's really 458 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: good that they did that. It'll be interesting to see 459 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: if Gain drafts a quarterback this year. Yeah, we talked 460 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: about the backup situation if he drafts somebody, Hey, see 461 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have value. See if he goes with that philosophy. 462 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: And I liked that philosophy. Every couple of years, draft 463 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: a quarterbacks somewhere because they might turn out to be 464 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: something and you could deal them or develop them. Like 465 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: the third round pick from Louisville. Yeah, that didn't work. 466 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: Charlie drafted him because he had a first round great 467 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: on him. Well the previous year. I think he would 468 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: have gone him first really good the next year, but um, 469 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: that one didn't work out. But Drew Henson worked out 470 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. He got a upgrade of a draft 471 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: choice and a deal with Dallas for him. Well, come 472 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: on here there, what they do with that pig? Uh? 473 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: The other thing about having a young quarterback. When heat 474 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: Schuller was drafted in the first byte round by the Redskins, 475 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: they drafted for Rot, Schuller held out. Everybody loved for 476 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: Schuller struggled, everybody loved Farrod. It was a controversy from 477 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: the get go. And when you do that, like when 478 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: RG three struggled the second year, people Oh, gay, let's 479 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: see Kirk Cousins. I like him, and young and old 480 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: or an old starter. Have a young guy that you're developing. 481 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you should have two young ones unless 482 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: there's a guy there that you had rated way higher 483 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: and you have to take it. I don't mind it 484 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: so much because of what you just said. I mean, 485 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: what great insurance for the Redskins that they had Cousins there. 486 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: If if Cousins was going to ruin RG three, it's 487 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: RG three's fault. If Farrot was gonna ruin Schuler, it's 488 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: his fault. Steve Walsh did not ruin Troy Aikman because 489 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: they came in at the same time. In Dallas and 490 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: Walsh won the game when they were rookie and traded 491 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: to New Orleans. Yeah, so you got something for Walsh, right. 492 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what that deal was, but I 493 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: don't mind it so much. And I wouldn't mind it 494 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: if the Texans took a shot at somebody a little 495 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: bit later on to develop, and maybe he turns into 496 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: somebody that they can deal. Well if in the third 497 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: round one of those quarterbacks O'Brien and staff had at 498 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, who are who? They have the Richmond 499 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: quarterback and they did not have the flashy quarterbacks. But yeah, 500 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: and maybe they like one of those guys. I doubt 501 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: they're third rounders, though, we'll see. You Know. It drives 502 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: me crazy is watching people on TV and the internet, 503 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: on websites gush about pro days. Sam Darnell looked really 504 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: good in shorts and T shirts and my god, he 505 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: threw in the rain. Did you see it? Raining? He 506 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: kept throwing, And I'm thinking, Wow, is there anything more 507 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: worthless than a pro day? And you've got film of 508 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: every throw he made in college? You can get practice throws. 509 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: It is preposterous. Vinch on Johnny Manziel, Although Manziel wearing 510 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: pads and putting on the show he did with all 511 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: the music and everything was something. It was a great 512 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: Pro Day show. Blake Blake Portals, I was there a 513 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: former president or Pro Days liners was great. Yeah, I 514 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: remember Barbara Bushes dogs using the bathroom on artificial service 515 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: and to see the uh the Secret Service guys protecting 516 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: him is having to go over and pick it up, 517 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: and uh, oh my gosh, how do you know when 518 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: your career is not going in the right direction. George Whitfield, 519 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback guru who orchestrated Manzille, said, the Bushes came out, 520 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, door opens at the end. Here they come 521 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: on golf guards with the Secret Service, and Johnny's warming 522 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: up and or he's actually going through it and he 523 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: looks o where George goes, huh, hey, George, check it out. 524 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: It's it's the president. And then he didn't bat an eye. Finally, 525 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: the rest of his career had been like his Pro Day. 526 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: All right, John McLean's gonna stay with us. We'll get 527 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: to the AFC South, We'll get to the oiler reunion 528 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: that recently took place. It's all happening next on Texans 529 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: All access. We're visiting with John McClean from the Houston 530 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: Chronicle tonight. This is what we do on Thursday's Mark 531 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: fantermire with you in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. In general, 532 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: let's get to it a little scorecard watching AFC South, 533 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: because we do it just about every week of the year, 534 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean fifty two weeks a year. We're wondering what 535 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: else is going on in this division, which is a 536 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: very compelling division. Now you tell me Jacksonville. You lose 537 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Allan Robinson and Alan Hurns, but they've got some good 538 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: young wide receivers. They resigned markis Lee and they get 539 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: Dante Moncrief Jacksonville better or worse after free agency, never 540 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: mind the draft, and I know they also picked up 541 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell, who can block a little bit for them. 542 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: They also cut a tight end that the Texans have 543 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: gone against twice a year for years. Marcedes Lewis in 544 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: my most recent Mark Draft, which is on kron dot com, 545 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: I have them now taking a tight end. I can't remember. 546 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: I think it's Hayden Hurst from South Carolina, as he 547 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: had him second, but it seems like they got to 548 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: have a tight end. The Texans know better than anybody 549 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: about those backup receivers how good they were, because they 550 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: burned the heck out of them, and I think they're better. 551 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Just the fact that Bortlest should have gotten some confidence 552 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: down to stretching in the playoffs. And then for Neat, 553 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how many years he's gonna play taking 554 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: a beating like that, but he'll be I look for 555 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: him to be even better in his second year. Now 556 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: he knows how to be a pro ed norwell next 557 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: to Cam Robinson's a really good move. So they should 558 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: be the favorite in the division. You think so, all right, 559 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: So if you have to pick the AFC South, now 560 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: you got to pick the Jacks, right, I would pick 561 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: the Jacks. Everybody healthy. Everybody's completely healthy, including the Colts. 562 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's fully healthy, Watson Watt, everybody's healthy. You're picking 563 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: the Jacks. I'm picking the Jags because they only had 564 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: one injury last year to Robinson, and they've got it 565 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Got a great running back. 566 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: That great running back is you know, can cure a 567 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of ye makes it well. He can make Bortles 568 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: look good and get him a contract extension. That's what 569 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: that running back can do. I don't want to take 570 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: away from the good things that Bortles did. I guess 571 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: I just did that. Sorry, Plake, I know you're not listening. 572 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Titans here, because we always talk 573 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: about regimes coming in and favoring people who they're familiar with, 574 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. You had it 575 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: here with denverto six when Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith 576 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: came in. You had to hear what the Patriots and 577 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien comes in with his peeps, and now you 578 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: have a Patriot influence in Tennessee with John Robinson and 579 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: of course Mike rabel So, Dion Lewis and Malcolm Butler 580 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: are Titans. Logan Ryan came in last year thanks to Robinson. 581 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: So what are you making the Titans after their acquisitions 582 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: in free agency and they're in the running for Dominican 583 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: Sue and soon needs to go to a four to 584 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: three team where he's played four three teams in Detroit 585 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: and Miami and played tackle. Now he could play in 586 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: a three four and in slide inside and he's not 587 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: a difference maker. He hadn't been. He wasn't with Miami. 588 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: He got sixty million guaranteed and they went to the 589 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: playoffs once. But putting him in a defensive line is good, 590 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: can make him real good, right, and he had five 591 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: I think he averaged five and a half sacks. He's 592 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: still good against run. He's thirty one or thirty too. 593 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: And so I think Butler, Malcolm Butler, y'all are interested 594 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: in Malcolm Butler. And I think that you know, you 595 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: and I have seen Dion Lewis multiple times because Texans 596 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: play him every year twice some year. He is a 597 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: really good change of place from Derrick Henry, the big 598 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty eight pounders. So I think that 599 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: getting Lewis, who's a receiver who is a quick, kind 600 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: of like a lightning bird, hum hummingbird, I think that 601 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: was a shrewd move. I think key for them. You know, 602 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: they get the second round of the playoffs with Mariota 603 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: having four more interceptions and touchdowns. What are you gonna 604 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: do if Mike Vrabel, you know, hires he's got Pat 605 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: O'Hara's quarterback coach and Matt Lafleur, who both former Texans coaches. 606 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: What if they straightened him out and he is you know, 607 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. They could be even better. Yeah, 608 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: that's pretty scared. I think. Also, what it's like here, 609 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: the Exons need two offensive tackles. They don't have to 610 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: worry about that. Ye got Lawan and they got Conklin 611 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: and they Once you get those offensive tackles solidified. My goodness, 612 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: that helps your offense so much. Oh, the rest gets 613 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot easier. It certainly does. Now, what about the Colts. 614 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Matt Slawson, we've heard of him. He ruined Brian Cushing's 615 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: leg in the twenty twelve campaign Week five against the 616 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Jets illegal hit. And also Eric Ebron tight end for 617 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck to play with assuming Andrew Luck comes back. 618 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: But what do you make of their free agency? Hebron 619 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: was a huge buzz with Detroit tenth overall pick four 620 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: years ago, six four, two fifty. You guys weren't interested 621 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: in him. Y'all need a blocker. You're looking for a 622 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: bigger guy, and it's hard to find those guys in college. 623 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: So you have to find somebody that's willing to do that. 624 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: I can't even remember I have y'all taken in my 625 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: latest Mark and tight end. I think his name's Damon 626 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: Schultz from Stanford because he's six five and two sixty five. 627 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: And I'm having a tight end and a tackle every week. 628 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: And now because of Covid and Matthew, I'm not taking 629 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 1: a corner or a safety in the third round. This 630 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: time I took a three four end. See I would. 631 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even change my Texans mock because I think 632 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: that even though they picked up who they picked up 633 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: with the honey badger and the old lineman and everything, 634 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: I would still draft at those positions. Just go ahead 635 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: and just feel it, I will. I just not sure. 636 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: Before I had tackle corners, safety, slash tight end right, 637 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: and this time I have tackle, uh tackle tackle tackle, 638 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: I have tackle defensive No, I have a tackle and 639 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: a and a guy that's tackle plays guard and a 640 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: defensive end. That's what I did this week, I think, 641 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: And I got like fifty more to go. It's not 642 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: for the last one. Hopefully we'll have a better idea. 643 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: So do you claim victory if you get one of these? No? No, 644 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: my first mock draft in two thousand and nine, I 645 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: had the Texans taken. Oh you did have them, And 646 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: then then I switched to Matthews because Brian played outside 647 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: and Clay played outside, and so you needed an inside guy. 648 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: And so I didn't like go back and say, hey, 649 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: my first mark, I had Brian Cushing. That counts the 650 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: only one that counts as the last one. Yeah, but 651 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: all I know is you will take a tackle and 652 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me. And a guy picked was Alex 653 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: Kappa from Humboldt State because he also projects inside or tackle. 654 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: He needs a year. They say, like say Julie on Davenport, 655 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: But I know it wouldn't surprise me at all if 656 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: you don't use two of those first three picks on 657 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah. I know we still have the draft 658 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: to go here, but you're talking about Jacksonville likely to 659 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: be picked first, and who cares where people get picked, 660 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: But it's the offseason, so we fans. Is there any way? 661 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do the Texans get bumped up at all? 662 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: Or are they going to be in that second third 663 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: area or the Colts automatically fourth even with a healthy 664 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Lucky. I think that with Watson coming back and 665 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: the injuries, I think the Colts will be picked last. 666 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: And I think I do believe there will be some 667 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: people in the media who picked the Texans to win 668 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: because of Watson. Wow, that's strong stuff. Shows you how 669 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: much they think about. One of the things I'm gonna 670 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: do at the NFL meetings is I'm going to talk 671 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: to coaches in the SEC South, What do you think 672 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: about Shaun Watson? Right? Get their reaction. Good idea. Anytime 673 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: you got Watson or Wat in the headline, it's gonna 674 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: get a lot of hits because people are so interested 675 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: in then. Yeah, very good point. All right, So the 676 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: oiler reunion, let's get to that because we're running out 677 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: of time. It was a Saturday night. Amy Adams Strunk, 678 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: the owner. She was doing this before the night before 679 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: the Titans played the Texans here and they decided to 680 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: postpone everything because of her after matth of Hurricane Harvey, 681 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: and she had him out top golf in the afternoon, 682 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: took over eddiv Steakhouse at Town and Country three, and 683 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: it was one of the neatest things I've ever been to. 684 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: I took pictures, I tweeted them. Late in the pan 685 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: comes through playing Houston Oilers number one, everybody got up 686 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: and saying I turned on did live Twitter, walked around 687 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: the room, you know, Wade Phillips is waving at me 688 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: and Warren Moon, Heywood, Jeffries, Earnest Givens, Dan Pastorini. They 689 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: had players, coaches, she invited, back equipment people, trainers. Jeff 690 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: Kaplan was there. It was from the first season of 691 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty through the last season here nineteen ninety six. 692 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: There were players from every era of Warren Moon at 693 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: his running shoot. Receivers. Bill Groman, one of George Blanda's 694 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: two favorite targets with late Charlie Hennigan in nineteen sixty, 695 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: had four rings on one finger. Two from the Oilers 696 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: Championships in sixty sixty one, two from the Bills Championships 697 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: in sixty four and sixty five. I told him, your 698 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: names needs to be Teddy four rings, I mean back 699 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: four rings. Oh that's pretty good stuff. Now, Bud had 700 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: never done anything that along with the Oilers. They never 701 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: had anything for the Oilers, nothing, And that's why they're 702 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: walking around like nomads. You know, they want to be 703 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: part of the Texans, but they can't be. You know, 704 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: the Texans of the Texans. You know, their history is 705 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: in Nashville, but their memories are here and in Canton. 706 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: It's a Titans exhibit in which it shows the Oilers, 707 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: and so any Adams Struck is going to be throwing 708 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: a huge bash in Canton the night Robert Brazil gets 709 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: inducted the first Saturday in August, and that's gonna be 710 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: a heck of a Love You Blue reunion. And I 711 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: told I tweeted, I think I wish every fan could 712 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: have been there experiencing what I did Saturday night. It 713 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: was like, if you were an Oilers fan, you were 714 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: a kidney candy store. Are there any Oilers now who 715 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: are not in the Hall of Fame who need to 716 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: be in? I've had Robert Brazil said, Billy White Shus 717 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: Johnson needs to be in as a return guy, but 718 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: we don't put we haven't put return guys in there. 719 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: And Billy Billy was there. Billy was as good as 720 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: it as there's been, and he did the Funky Chicken. 721 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: I took a picture of him and Ernest Gibbons, who 722 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: did the electric Slide, and of course neither one of 723 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: them could do those dances right now. I asked him 724 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: to try, but they were afraid they hurt themselves. And 725 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: Charlie Hennigan, along with Bill Groman was the first great 726 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: receiver Charlie, but they only played seven years and it's 727 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: going to be hard, and so I it's really something 728 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: mark as being on the committee all these years and 729 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: representing the oilers, I feel so bad. And I'll have 730 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: wives or children who are grown saying can you please 731 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: help my dad get in the Hall of Fame, And 732 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: I tell him I'll do everything I can. But I 733 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: realistically don't see any more oilers going to ken Right, 734 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: it makes sense if we get one return guy, if 735 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: they're seriously considering a return guy, I'll be all over. 736 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: Why she was Johnson, because he was as good as 737 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: there's ever been. And boy, seeing those guys that love 738 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: you blue oilers, the running shoot oilers, the championship oilers 739 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: from those three eras and in between, it was just 740 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: an incredible night. I wrote the things on her website 741 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: about it, and they took all my pictures that were 742 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: dark and they lightened them up where you could see everybody, 743 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: and it was it was just it was a night 744 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: to remember. It's one of the greatest experiences I've ever had. 745 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: And Amy's gonna do it again. I don't think it'll 746 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: be next year, but maybe the year after because she 747 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: had blast because she was a kid growing up watching 748 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: those guys with her daddy, and so she you know, 749 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: they're thanking her and she's thanking them for the memories. Well, 750 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: it's a terrific thing she did, really, and you mentioned it. 751 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 1: The Texans do what they can with the Homecoming game 752 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: and everything like that to involve the oilers, but they're 753 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: not the oilers. JJ Watt, he tweeted about having a 754 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: throwback game here wearing oilers UNI for him, can't do it, right, 755 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: you can't do it. What if he said, I understand 756 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: why we can't do it, but I think it would 757 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: be cool. But they can't do it that they're the Titans, 758 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: not the Texans. Yeah, and then people say, well give it, 759 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: give us back the history. Well, Bud Adams got Paul 760 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: Taggle to give them a legal documents because Bud love 761 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: the oilers. He said, the oilers can will always be 762 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: a part of that franchise. And you know, truthfully, it's 763 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: too complicated. You can't take their history. Now say J. J. 764 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: Watt's all time leading sacker and then all of a 765 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: sudden he's not. He's not. The Texans wouldn't do it 766 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: at this point anyway, the Texans of their own franchise. 767 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: But and to be in oiler uniforms, I mean that 768 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: really would be quite quite a departure. You can't see 769 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: that happening either. But it's to wear the oilers. Yeah, 770 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: But but nobody in Nashville cares about that. They remember 771 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: they did they were the nineteenth didnt they were the 772 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: nineteen I went there, and people in Nashville are very 773 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: polite to the oilers, but they're not enthusiastic. List it's 774 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: somebody like the most prominent oilers who played in Nashville, 775 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: Bruce Matthews, Eddie George and Frank Whitchick and h Steve McNair, 776 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: and so they're polite. They had a Hall of Fame 777 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: Titan Slash oilers and Budd inducted some people, and they 778 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: had them at halftime and they introduced them and people, 779 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, they were polite with their applause. But here 780 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: if those guys would just get incredible ovations. And I 781 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: wish now that I'm thinking about this, in fact, I 782 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: gotta talk to Jamie Roots about this. And Pattie Smith, 783 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: the first three inductees into the Houston Sports Hall of 784 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: fame are gonna be thirty four is Earl Campbell, kim Elajua, 785 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan. Why not present Earl with his Houston Sports 786 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: Award ring or whatever they're gonna give him at a 787 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: Texans game since it's Houston Texans and Oilers will be 788 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: a nice You never know, becaus been here before doing stuff. 789 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: I think the fans would think they would quite a bit. Hey, 790 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: what do you have going out on the chronicle? Well, 791 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: I've got a story Sunday about the start of the 792 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: NFL meetings. Uh uh, Aaron Wilson, I have another mock draft, 793 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: Mark five should be on the website in the morning. 794 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: And uh and uh, I don't know what else we got. 795 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: I get to Orlando, you'll be there and I'll be 796 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: writing Texans stories all week. Sounds good, Thank you, Mark. 797 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: All right, that's John McClean. That's the show. Thanks so 798 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: much for listening. Everyone a lot at night. Is next, 799 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: Go Texans.