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Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday.

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Speaker 3: We have an amazing show for everybody today. What do

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Speaker 1: Indeed, we do many interesting things to get to you this morning.

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Speaker 1: So we have all known that Biden and his team

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Speaker 1: are in a bubble, but now we have some astonishing

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Speaker 1: find very interesting. Also taking a look at what's going

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Speaker 1: on with Nvidia and asking the question, are we facing

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Speaker 1: another crash allah the dot com bubble burst, So we'll

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Speaker 1: look at that. Also on foreign policy, Russia making a

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Speaker 1: new pact with North Korea? Where did this come from?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? Quite a next ordinary move. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: very interesting. We also have a mother of a Boeing

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, so lots to get to this morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the very latest with the

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Speaker 1: Biden campaign. I want to start with CNN having their

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Speaker 1: old pal Brian Stelter back on the air to provide

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Speaker 1: us with a heaping dose of some Biden cope about

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Speaker 1: why the public is viewing him as an old man.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to that.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're seeing. That's what the Biden administration, the

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Speaker 4: Biden campaign is so worried about right now. But made

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Speaker 4: no mistake, they are worried about this. This is a

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Speaker 4: real problem. This is not something made up fiction. The

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Speaker 4: Because some of us have watch a forty minute speech

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Speaker 1: I've also many of them make the extent to the

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Speaker 1: typically Biden on double speed. I think the conclusion that

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Speaker 2: This is just pure White House regurgitated propaganda. And in fact,

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Speaker 2: But this is the new media regurgitation of the White

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Speaker 2: House line about cheap fakes quote unquote, A cheap fake

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Speaker 3: I don't like that happens to show Biden.

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Speaker 2: Looking really really old, like wandering off in the middle

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Speaker 2: They can try and spin these things all they want,

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Speaker 3: He wants you to believe they are fake. No, they

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Speaker 2: At the very least, you could say they are edited

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Speaker 3: Show us the full context. We showed you the full context.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't STI look good, Yeah, no matter which.

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Speaker 3: Way that you spent it, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The one they really objected to is the one where

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Speaker 1: and everybody is like looking at this one guide Biden's

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Speaker 1: like wandering off over here. Now, the clip of that

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Speaker 1: January sixth, political violence, democracy, and Donald Trump's character. But

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Speaker 1: this very tight bubble. Let's put some of the quotes

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Speaker 1: A DEM strategist in touch with the campaign told Axios

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Speaker 1: aid who heard him say it. Joe Biden is a

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Speaker 1: another common Donalin refrain. So that's the level of analysis

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Speaker 2: I really don't even know what to say. I mean

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Speaker 2: Donalin has argued January sixth will affect the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four election as much as nine to eleven was central

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Speaker 1: If that hadn't happened, Biden was getting his ass kicked.

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Speaker 2: have been wrong since I was a small child. When

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Speaker 2: I was coming up, I used to read them and

439
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Speaker 2: be like, these guys are idiots. And I'm thinking this

440
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Speaker 2: when I'm what fifteen years old, and now it's been

441
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Speaker 2: twenty years almost, and they're still doing the same job,

442
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Speaker 2: and they're still wrong in the same positions, and Biden

443
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Speaker 2: is like, oh, like praying and inviting them, Yeah to whites, man,

444
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Speaker 2: what do you think for Reid?

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Speaker 3: Tell me what to do well?

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Speaker 1: I mean, in fairness, he is crushing it with the

447
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Speaker 1: like Mike donalden age plus demographics, so you know, in

448
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Speaker 1: terms of his campaign model that was honed in nineteen

449
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Speaker 1: eighty five, he's crushing it.

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Speaker 3: Kills me.

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Speaker 1: It is looking increasingly likely that we could be facing

452
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Speaker 1: an all out wore huge escalation between Israel and HESBLA. Yesterday,

453
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Speaker 1: Emily and I told you about some of the provocations

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Speaker 1: from Israel talking about all out war, talking about how

455
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Speaker 1: they've already developed a quote unquote operational plan. Now we

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Speaker 1: have some new updates from the HESWLA side. Let's put

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Speaker 1: this up on the screen. So this is from a

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Speaker 1: Reuter's reporter who says these alerts are heading Reuter's wire

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Speaker 1: right now. Lebanon's HESBELA chief said, Hassan Estralla says nowhere

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Speaker 1: in Israel will be safe from groups attacks in case

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Speaker 1: of war, including targets in the Mediterranean. Hezbel Ahead also

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Speaker 1: says if war is imposed on Lebanon, the group will

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Speaker 1: fight with no rules, no ceilings, and saying that Cyprus

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Speaker 1: allowing Israel use of its airports means that it has

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Speaker 1: become a part of the war and that Hesbela will

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Speaker 1: deal with it as such that you know, potentially having

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Speaker 1: the possibility of drawing a part of the EU into

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Speaker 1: this war as well. And I mean we've been seeing

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Speaker 1: this potentially coming for a while because basically there aren't

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Speaker 1: a lot of parts of the Gaza strip left to destroy.

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Speaker 1: You know, they started in the north, they moved down

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Speaker 1: to the center, now they're in the south in Rafa.

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Speaker 1: That annihilation will be complete imminently. And bb Nan Yahoo

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Speaker 1: still has the same logic of how do I keep

475
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Speaker 1: this war going as long as I possibly can. He

476
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Speaker 1: also has a secondary logic of how can I also

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Speaker 1: get the US directly involved on our side in this

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Speaker 1: possible war against Hesbela. And already there's been you know,

479
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Speaker 1: back and forth sort of tit for tat attacks. You

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Speaker 1: also had yesterday that we brought you to Hesbela released

481
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Speaker 1: drone fo footage that they were able to obtain of

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Speaker 1: sensitive targets in Haifa in particular, sort of an acknowledgment

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Speaker 1: of Hey, you think your iron dome is so incredible, Well,

484
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Speaker 1: guess what we were able to get our drones past it.

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Speaker 1: And if we can do that, guess what else we

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Speaker 1: can do. The US had a somebody described as a

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Speaker 1: senior advisor. But I've never heard of this do before,

488
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Speaker 1: as Amos Hawkstein, have you know this person? A little

489
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Speaker 1: bit envoy quote unquote Anyway, they had him in the

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Speaker 1: region to supposedly try to ratchet down the tensions and

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Speaker 1: talk them out of this all out war. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to have made a lick of difference. You will

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Speaker 1: be unsurprised to learn since bb has learned very well

494
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Speaker 1: at this point Biden isn't actually going to do anything

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Speaker 1: besides tough conversations and little you know, mean leaks to

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Speaker 1: the press, et cetera. More on that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: But Sager, what do you make of these recent developments.

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Speaker 2: It's terrifying because for these rallies they have, they are

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Speaker 2: either delusional or their confidence is far higher than it

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Speaker 2: should be considering.

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Speaker 1: Their things are related, considering.

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Speaker 3: Their performance in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of guys who basically just bomb first, ask

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Speaker 2: questions later, have shown me no real like you know,

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Speaker 2: actual like tactical proficiency. Not according to me, you can

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Speaker 2: go and speak to people who are actually experts about

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Speaker 2: this stuff. What in the world makes you think that

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Speaker 2: you can take on Hezbolah, which is a genuine paramilitary

509
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Speaker 2: force which has been training and actually engage in active combat,

510
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Speaker 2: probably in some cases since before many of these IDF

511
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Speaker 2: reservists are even born. They've fought through the entire Civil War.

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Speaker 2: They are strapped better today than they ever have been

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Speaker 2: in all of their history. Iran has every incentive to

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Speaker 2: make sure that they have the most up to date weaponry.

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Speaker 2: If you consider their rockets, you know, like these Hamas

516
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Speaker 2: rockets versus the actual stuff that they have, it's you know,

517
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Speaker 2: apples and orange is totally different. Their ability. I mean, already,

518
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Speaker 2: even if you just look at death toll, there have

519
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Speaker 2: been proportionately way more Israeli soldiers who were killed already

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Speaker 2: from Hezbola fire than compared to anything proportionally with respect

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Speaker 2: to how vulnerable they are with Hamas. It's also pretty

522
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Speaker 2: clear here look Hesbola, they don't want to be involved

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Speaker 2: in this, they said from the original October. After October seventh,

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Speaker 2: they're like, look where they're posturing.

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Speaker 3: But Nasralla was like, we're not getting involved in this. Now.

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Speaker 3: The tit for tad.

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Speaker 2: We bomb one here, they fire here, and anti tank

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Speaker 2: missiles kill three d idea of soldiers, they kill twenty

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Speaker 2: has Bulla guys in an air strike. And there's more

530
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Speaker 2: fire that's happening. And now this war cabinet, you know,

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Speaker 2: green lights things are very very dangerous because what does

532
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Speaker 2: it mean, I mean, is the whole country of Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: It would almost certainly also draw Iran much further into

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Speaker 2: the into the war through this, I mean, they have

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Speaker 2: it's complicated, but they at least have an understanding of

536
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Speaker 2: a lot of mutual support. Then you know, us targets

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Speaker 2: like you said, Cyprus, which thank god is not in

538
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Speaker 2: NATO at least for now while these idiots are in charge,

539
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Speaker 2: but it is in the European Union, so that would obviously,

540
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Speaker 2: you know, be very significant. And I also shouldn't forget this,

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Speaker 2: you know, this whole HOUTHI stuff. I mean, look at

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Speaker 2: what the houthis are probably less sophisticated than Hezbola.

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Speaker 3: They have shut down the Red Sea. Yea, So are

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Speaker 3: we just all gonna forget about that?

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Speaker 1: They just think another shit?

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Speaker 2: Yes, And ninety one percent or whatever Red Sea traffic

547
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Speaker 2: is down from October seventh.

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Speaker 1: They've been rerouted.

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Speaker 3: This has been a total failure.

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Speaker 2: The US mission to clear the Red Sea has not

551
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Speaker 2: worked because I think I even said this at the time,

552
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Speaker 2: if you actually want to do this, you need to

553
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Speaker 2: militarily occupy Yemen and actually secure the ground.

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Speaker 3: That's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Let's not do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not. By the way, I don't think we should.

557
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Speaker 3: I think that's a better We have a better option.

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Speaker 1: Well, the better option is to end Israel's assault on Gaza,

559
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Speaker 1: because that is the root of all of these conflicts,

560
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Speaker 1: and it's the reason who these are doing what they're doing.

561
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Speaker 1: It's the reason that has well is doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: The reason Iran did what they did is because of

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Speaker 1: Israel's direct provocation attacking their embassy in Damascus. But all

564
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Speaker 1: of these tensions and conflicts stem from one issue and

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Speaker 1: really from one imperative, which has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: Israeli security at this point, and everything to do with

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Speaker 1: BB Netan Yahoo and his political motives and incentives. I

568
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Speaker 1: should add to that also the incredible manifest weakness and

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Speaker 1: capacity for incredible capacity for humiliation on Joe Biden's part, specifically,

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Speaker 1: I mean the hoosy thing you have. Recall we played

571
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Speaker 1: his comments when they asked him, Hey, is this working?

572
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Speaker 1: It's like no, but is it going to continue? Yes?

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Speaker 1: It's like what are we doing? This is complete and

574
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Speaker 1: utter insanity. So do you have confidence that these weak

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Speaker 1: need idiots are going to be able to keep us

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Speaker 1: out of a more direct engagement in this mess that

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Speaker 1: has been created in the region. I certainly don't have

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Speaker 1: that confidence. The other piece you know, that contributes in

579
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Speaker 1: his important context with all of this is your recall.

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Speaker 1: We covered BB put out that video where, in spite

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Speaker 1: of the bear hug, in spite of Biden giving him

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Speaker 1: everything he wants whenever he wants it, he stabs Biden

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Speaker 1: in the back, puts out this video attacking him, claiming

584
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Speaker 1: he's not getting the weapons and the AMMO that he

585
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Speaker 1: wants when he wants it, and the Biden administration is

586
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Speaker 1: reportedly they're baffled there. They're shocked by this, which is like,

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Speaker 1: why are you shocked. BB want's Trump in office. He's

588
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Speaker 1: happy to knife you like he's only operating for his

589
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: own interest. You've demonstrated no capacity to check him whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know why you're surprised at this point.

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Speaker 1: But even beyond that, now, instead of being like, well,

592
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Speaker 1: screw you, then maybe we are gonna if you're gonna

593
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Speaker 1: blame us for blocking shipments, like maybe we should go

594
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Speaker 1: ahead and do that. Instead we're oh, no, no, We're sorry.

595
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Speaker 1: We'll get you everything you want whenever you want to

596
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Speaker 1: put this up on the screen. US Ambassador to Israel

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Speaker 1: jacklu told Prime Minister nat Yahoo yesterday the m O

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Speaker 1: and weapons the PM referred to, they're in the process

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Speaker 1: of being delivered to Israel. Don't worry, guys, we promise.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that is, I mean, I guess you

601
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Speaker 1: either laugh or you cry. Is There were these typical reports, Oh,

602
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Speaker 1: there's tough conversations and oh the Biden ministry just so

603
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: mad about this video. They canceled a meeting that was

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Speaker 1: going to happen, and I was like, oh, you canceled

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Speaker 1: a meeting. Well now they're even denying that that ou No,

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Speaker 1: we would never cancel a meeting we would never do

607
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Speaker 1: that to the Israelis. Put this up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: It's so embarrassing, just from the Times of Israel. US

609
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Speaker 1: denies report it canceled talks in DC overnt Yaho's complaint

610
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Speaker 1: of weapons. Hold up. Here's the White House official quote.

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Speaker 1: They say, as we said in the briefing yesterday, we

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Speaker 1: have no idea what the Prime Minister is talking about,

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Speaker 1: but that's not a reason for rescheduling a meeting. We

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Speaker 1: would never do something so brazen and so audacious as

615
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Speaker 1: reschedule a meeting. It's just so pathetic. You literally can't

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Speaker 1: even make it up. At those points.

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Speaker 2: Ager it's crazy. They're like, wait, we would never do that, outrageous.

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Speaker 2: It's like, wait, why not?

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Speaker 1: And the other response was always such a pathetic response, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you canceled a meeting. Ooh if you did, Oh you're

621
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Speaker 1: gonna leave him on red on his test messages next time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do it? You actually should. It wouldn't be a

623
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Speaker 3: bad idea, just to show him whose boss. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's part of the other thing too.

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Speaker 2: When you look at Bebie's video, on the one hand,

626
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Speaker 2: you could be like, wow, you know he's calling out America.

627
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Speaker 2: He has all the strength because the immediately he is like, no,

628
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Speaker 2: we would never do that. On the other he's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you need to give us the weapons to finish the job.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean? They don't have the weapons to

631
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Speaker 3: finish the job.

632
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Speaker 2: So you're like, wait, what what are we admitting here

633
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Speaker 2: in terms of what the power relationship is?

634
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Speaker 3: Who's paying for it?

635
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Speaker 2: Because if you can't finish the job without American weapons, well,

636
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Speaker 2: you're kind of validating a lot of the critics here

637
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Speaker 2: in Washington, which is that this is bankrolled and almost

638
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: one hundred percent enabled by the United States. So you

639
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, for all of those you who are out there,

640
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Speaker 2: that's a very critical thing in your rhetorical quiver. You're like,

641
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Speaker 2: he said it, he admitted it on tape. We need

642
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Speaker 2: the weapons. There's no other way to do it.

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Speaker 1: That is a great point, because I'm sure you guys

644
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Speaker 1: have heard this argument. It's been made throughout like Israel's

645
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Speaker 1: a sovereign What could Joe Biden even really do They're

646
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Speaker 1: going to do what they want to do.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Really turns out maybe we do have a little bit

649
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Speaker 1: of power if we would want to use them, but

650
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Speaker 1: of course we don't. Instead, we're apologized, Oh, I'm sorry, fine,

651
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Speaker 1: maybe upset you bbe. There was one shipment of five

652
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Speaker 1: hundred two thousand pound poems that was delayed. Okay, not

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Speaker 1: even We're not going to send it delayed. And this

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Speaker 1: is the meltdown that you get. It's just it's insane.

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Speaker 1: But BB, every time that he seems to stand up

656
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Speaker 1: to the US domestically, he benefits from that. So that's

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Speaker 1: what he's doing here. Also, don't forget he's got his

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Speaker 1: visit and his speech to Congress invited on a bipartisan

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Speaker 1: basis that is upcoming. It's like, Democrats, this is the

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Speaker 1: guy you invited to come and have this high honor

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Speaker 1: of speaking to Congress, like congratulations. Because I don't know

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Speaker 1: who you thought, BB Natanya who was Maybe you should

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Speaker 1: go ask him as raelis who this man is and

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Speaker 1: what he is capable of, because you seem to be

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Speaker 1: completely in the dark about that. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: this is extraordinary as well. Put this up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: So the IDF spokesman, I know you've seen this guy,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Hagari. He has REBUKEDNTNA who he is, admitting that

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Speaker 1: defeating Hamas is impossible. Let me read you a good

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Speaker 1: bit of this, he said in an interview with Channel

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Speaker 1: thirteen News on Wednesday in Israel. That quote, the idea

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Speaker 1: of destroying Hamas is simply throwing sand in the eyes

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Speaker 1: of the public. In other words, if we're anyone who's

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Speaker 1: saying that you can destroy Hamas, you're lying to the public.

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Speaker 1: It's not possible. He goes on to say, Hamas is

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Speaker 1: an idea, Hamas is a political party. It is rooted

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Speaker 1: in the hearts of people. Whoever thinks we can eliminate

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Speaker 1: Hamas is mistaken. Hamas is the Muslim brotherhood. It's been

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Speaker 1: around for many, many years. What can be done is

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Speaker 1: to develop something else to replace it, something that will

681
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Speaker 1: make the population realize that someone else is distributing the food,

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Speaker 1: someone else is taking public service, taking care of public services,

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Speaker 1: to really weaken Hamas. This is the way. Now, none

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Speaker 1: of what he's saying here requires a genius to see.

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Speaker 1: This is very similar to things we've been saying since

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Speaker 1: October seventh, right about the way you should actually approach this,

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Speaker 1: and the idea that you're going to completely eliminate and

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Speaker 1: destroy Hamas, and how that is complete impossible. That supposed

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Speaker 1: goal has simply been used as a pretext and as

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Speaker 1: cover for the campaign of utter devastation and destruction that

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Speaker 1: has been wrought in the Gaza strip. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to give Daniel Hagari here any flowers for coming

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Speaker 1: up with this notion at this point, but to see

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Speaker 1: the idea of spokesperson you know, coming out and this

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Speaker 1: directly rebuking BBNT Yahoo is quite significant in terms of

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Speaker 1: Israeli domestic context. This also echoes things that you know,

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Speaker 1: Benny Gants and others has said gans as he left

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Speaker 1: the War Cabinet government, Let's go and put the next

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Speaker 1: piece up on the screen. This is Bobe's response. He

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Speaker 1: said on Wednesday that the Security Cabinet defined one of

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Speaker 1: the worst goals as a destruction of Hamas's military and

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Speaker 1: governing capabilities, and that the Israeli Army is of course

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Speaker 1: obligated to this. Danieligari then came out and said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course we're going to do, you know, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want us to do. But what do you make of this,

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Speaker 1: You know, this acknowledgment in the Israeli press that BB's

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Speaker 1: full of it. There's no defeating Hamas, no complete elimination

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Speaker 1: of Hamas. That is not on the table, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, implicitly in these comments too. You know, the

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Speaker 1: way that we've approached this with just utter destruction and

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Speaker 1: not supporting any sort of you know, aid delivery, certainly

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Speaker 1: not bolstering any other group that could fill in in

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Speaker 1: the governing capacity that Hamas has been fulfilling has been

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Speaker 1: a dire mistake and a disaster.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't really matter what I make of it.

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Speaker 2: The Israeli as usual, like this stuff doesn't even cross,

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Speaker 2: like the blood brain barrier.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's just left.

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Speaker 2: It's left over there on Israeli soil, even though they

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Speaker 2: write it in English, and then it's not even allowed

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Speaker 2: to be discussed here. And that's part of what it

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Speaker 2: drives me most insane about everything, is that when you

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Speaker 2: read the Israeli Pressed in general, you almost get a

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Speaker 2: more honest view of what is happening. You can even

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Speaker 2: cite their own sources, but it won't matter because what

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Speaker 2: Pastor Hagey said something different.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's the world we're living in, folks.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 2: Uh freaking you know, like those are the folks that

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Speaker 2: really a pack. John Greenblatt over at the ADL, those

731
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Speaker 2: are the folks who actually control all of our discourse

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Speaker 2: around this foreign country. So as long as that's the case,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter what I make of it is

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Speaker 2: obviously it's real. I mean, it doesn't take a genius

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Speaker 2: to figure it out. But it's almost doesn't matter. It

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Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter at all.

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Speaker 1: No, it is true, and it is such a great

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Speaker 1: point that like, you know, if you or I say

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Speaker 1: the whole how could you ar like most talking points

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: But like this is signing me is really pressed, okay, and.

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Speaker 1: Not just is really good the spokesman of the IDF

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And in additional comments, he talked about how

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Speaker 1: in that same interview, there is no military solution to

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Speaker 1: getting the hostages back. The only way to get the

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Speaker 1: hostages back is through negotiations, again, something that is completely

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Speaker 1: clear and apparent from anyone who is watching this conflict

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Speaker 1: and being remotely honest with themselves. But another thing that

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Speaker 1: you know, people here pretend in the media, pretend not

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Speaker 1: to understand and not to acknowledge, and they just you know,

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Speaker 1: use the hostages as emotional manipulation to pretend that the

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Speaker 1: war has to go on forever, when the hostage families

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Speaker 1: themselves are saying, no, we want a deal to end

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Speaker 1: the war and get our family and our loved ones back.

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Speaker 1: We don't want them to be continually subjected by the

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Speaker 1: way to IDF bombing, which one of the rescued hostages

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Speaker 1: said was the thing that he was most afraid of

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Speaker 1: when he was being held in captivity. So it's extraordinary

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Speaker 1: to see the IDF spokesman admit things that you were

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Speaker 1: really not allowed to admit in the context of the

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Speaker 1: western media here in the US.

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Speaker 3: Very true.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, we wanted to bring you quite

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Speaker 1: a remarkable interview with the mother of a woman her

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Speaker 1: daughter died on that twenty nineteen Boeing seven thirty seven

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Speaker 1: Max crash. This is in the context of the Boeing

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Speaker 1: CEO John Calhoun was just called to the carpet in

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Speaker 1: Congress testifying they're obviously Boeing in a heap of trouble

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Speaker 1: of their own making for faulty designs and shoddy product

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Speaker 1: and cutting corners at every turn with deadly and disastrous results.

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Speaker 1: Did not go well for Calhoun in that hearing both

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Speaker 1: parties really coming at him. Let's take a listen to

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Speaker 1: CNN's set up here where you get a little taste

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Speaker 1: of that testimony.

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Speaker 6: David Calhoun. He struggled to answer questions during a Senate hearing,

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Speaker 6: and he started off by apologizing to families of victims

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Speaker 6: who were seated behind him in the room. They were

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Speaker 6: holding up signs and pictures of their loved ones in

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Speaker 6: those crashes.

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Speaker 7: I would like to apologize on behalf of all of

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Speaker 7: our boweing associates spread throughout the world, past and present,

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Speaker 7: for your losses, Sir dot Richie and I apologize for

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Speaker 7: the grief that we have caused, and I want you

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Speaker 7: to know we are totally committed in their memory, the

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Speaker 7: work and focus on safety for as long as long

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Speaker 7: because we're employed by Boone. Oh again, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: So I said, John is David Calhoun? Anyway you can

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Speaker 1: see they're his apology, I'm sure very heartfelt apology to

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Speaker 1: the family members of victims of his company's faulty, disastrous products.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they took that very well. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, as I said before, this mom who lost

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Speaker 1: her daughter on one of these plane crashes, Nadia Millern,

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Speaker 1: she went on CNN and she gave it to him

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Speaker 1: in no uncertain terms, incredibly detailed way even throw us

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Speaker 1: in there. You know, hey, you're going to apologize for

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Speaker 1: all the bombs you built that were dropped on innocent

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Speaker 1: kids in Gaza. Let's take a listen to how that went.

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Speaker 6: Nadia. I want to first say, I'm so sorry for

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Speaker 6: the loss of your daughter, and I know that that

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Speaker 6: loss is still fresh in your mind. You were there,

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Speaker 6: You heard firsthand what Calhoun had to say. What did

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Speaker 6: you think of that apology?

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Speaker 5: It wasn't a real apology. So what he was doing

804
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Speaker 5: is he doesn't want us to know the details of it,

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Speaker 5: how it happened. So every time your loved one dies,

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Speaker 5: especially in a crime, you deserve to know and you

807
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 5: need to know how did it happen. So it happened

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Speaker 5: through production defects, not just through faulty design. So the

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Speaker 5: AOA sensor on the outside of the plane had a

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Speaker 5: faulty electrical component which caused the AOA sensor not to

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Speaker 5: feed the right information into mcast, which caused the plane

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Speaker 5: to dive into the ground. So he doesn't want people

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Speaker 5: to know that. He doesn't want people to know that

814
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Speaker 5: they cut corners on production, They cut out inspectors and

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Speaker 5: as a result, there are all these problems in these planes.

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Speaker 5: So the planes that were produced then, the planes that

817
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Speaker 5: are being produced now, they all have production defects, and

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Speaker 5: these are showing up in real problems that pilots are facing.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that he and others at Boeing should

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Speaker 6: be criminally prosecuted?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? He lies constantly. He was lying in the hearing today.

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Speaker 5: So he said that he didn't know what happened to

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Speaker 5: the supervisors who were harassing whistleblowers. So, for example, John

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Speaker 5: Barnett's family was all there. John Barnett supposedly committed suicide,

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Speaker 5: but I definitely have a question about that. He supposedly

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Speaker 5: committed suicide after seven years of harassment by Boeing in

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Speaker 5: the supervisors around his whistle blowing. It was a constant,

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Speaker 5: horrible situation for that person trying to call attention to

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Speaker 5: production problems and defects, and that those supervisors are all fine.

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Speaker 5: They all stayed in Boeing, some of them were promoted.

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Speaker 5: He looked at me in the eye and he said

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Speaker 5: I am sorry, And I said you are sorry? Are

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Speaker 5: you sorry for the bombs Boeing produce that kill innocent

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Speaker 5: kids in Ratha? Are you sorry for that too, Like,

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Speaker 5: how can he sleep? This person is a psychopath. We

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Speaker 5: cannot have people running these companies that do not care

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Speaker 5: about human life. We have to have responsible people running

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Speaker 5: these companies.

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Speaker 1: God bless that woman. Man, she let loose. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: CNN after that they were like, okay, anyway, yeah we

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Speaker 1: got Brian when you were talking about your daughter and

842
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Speaker 1: I were talking about gods that we got to move on.

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Speaker 1: But you know, to hear that on CNN, I think

844
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Speaker 1: is it is a remarkable I mean, to hear her

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Speaker 1: call him a psychopath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to say.

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Speaker 1: Out you're a liar, and yeah, you should be criminally prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this isn't just about my daughter.

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Speaker 1: It's about your immorality for building the bombs that get

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Speaker 1: dropped on innocent kids in RAFA. She's one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: correct in everything she said as well, because I thought

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Speaker 1: the example she gave of, you know, the man who

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Speaker 1: killed himself allegedly killed himself. What she says she has

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Speaker 1: some questions about. I think we all have some questions about.

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Speaker 1: But she says, hey, these supervisors who, if you believe

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Speaker 1: he killed himself, bullied him basically into killing himself, like

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Speaker 1: harassed him over years and years and years. You're pretending

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Speaker 1: in your testament, Oh you don't know what happened to

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Speaker 1: these I'm sure that some of them have been punished. No,

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Speaker 1: they're fine. They're still alive and well and doing perfectly

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Speaker 1: fine at your company. And meanwhile he's dead. So tell

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Speaker 1: me what's going on there.

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Speaker 3: Also, tell me.

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Speaker 2: About your culture that happening right now. I'll have them

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Speaker 2: add this in post. But the Boeing, actually, i'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if you're aware, transported its very first astronauts to space.

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Speaker 2: The problem is now they have to get them back.

868
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: And oh, there's actually problems with the spacecraft that are

869
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: right now. So I mean I'm reading directly and I've

870
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: been following this now. There have been major quote helium

871
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: leaks and thruster problems which have caused issues on the

872
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Boeing Starliner vehicle, which was supposed to compete with SpaceX.

873
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: It was a major moment for the company. Starliner just launched.

874
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: They carry two astronauts. Officials though from Boeing now say

875
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: that the astronauts are supposed to return on June twenty sixth,

876
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: but that there are now a major postponement that has

877
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: had to happen. The astronauts will spend about twenty days

878
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: now in space, more than double the eight days that

879
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: they had originally planned.

880
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: Quote.

881
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: Starliner is pinned down by a series of helium leaks

882
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: in the propulsion systems and now problems with several thrusters

883
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: that are used to maneuver the vehicle. NASA apparently had

884
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: been studying those issues before they permitted Starliner to attempt

885
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: to leave the International Space Station with those two astronauts

886
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: and return them to Earth. But obviously this is terrifying

887
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: because this is the Boeing flagship space vehicle. It was

888
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: supposed to be the SpaceX competitor to carry them. It's

889
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: a major US military industrial supplier, you know, obviously they

890
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: get preferential contracts.

891
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: And all of this.

892
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: And we're looking here at an aircraft that's cost hundreds

893
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: of billions of dollars, all this taxpayer money, et cetera,

894
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: and now two of our astronauts are literally stranded in space.

895
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: Wow return And that's this is totally about. I know,

896
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: the media is totally escaped on this one.

897
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Incredible.

898
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're I don't know why they're

899
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: ignoring it. I've been following you now for a couple

900
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: of days. In the space community, people are going wild

901
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 2: over this, like this is this is a really bad

902
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: issue because this was already they were under contract to

903
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: do six more flights right now to the International Space

904
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: Station after this vehicle gets certified. But this is the

905
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: very first flight of it actually carrying astronauts, and it's

906
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: already into a problem.

907
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: When you have a culture rife, enabled and encouraged around

908
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: your company of profits for safety, lass cutting corners, you know,

909
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: time is everything. Don't slow down if you need to,

910
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, get a new part. May because that one's faulty.

911
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: You just put the faulty part in. That's what the

912
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: type of thing that many whistleblowers at this point have

913
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: testified to you can't even if they wanted to do

914
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: this one right. Your culture is set. That is the

915
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: environment that you've created. And so listen, personally, I'm afraid

916
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: to get on a Boeing airplane. I can't imagine trusting

917
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: my life on a freaking Boeing space shuttle. Are you

918
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: kidding me? And then you know I'm about to talk

919
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: about this, you know, peer debacle and how we can't.

920
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a mess on every level. It's

921
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: only been operable for literally ten days since it went

922
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: into effect. Boeing is a critical part of our defense

923
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: industrial base, and like you know, we're trusting a lot

924
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: to these people, and we are giving them an unbelievable

925
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: amount of taxpayer dollars. So it's just a disaster on

926
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: every single level. It speaks to the culture and the

927
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: enabling of an economy that's based around financialization, where all

928
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: of the motives are around that dude, David Calhoun to

929
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: get hit to juice his stocks, because that's what his

930
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: compensation is, some forty million plus dollars a year, by

931
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: the way, which has gone up over the past couple

932
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: of years, which is also mind blowing. And he wouldn't

933
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: answer a straight question when Josh Holly was asking about this, right,

934
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: and the testimony wouldn't say how much he actually earns.

935
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: But all the incentives around juicing that man's compensation, safety,

936
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: public interest, anything else be damned, even the long term

937
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: interest of the company be damned. Because he's not going

938
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: to be there. He's actually leaving, and I'm sure he's

939
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: got a nice tidy package as he heads out the door,

940
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: basically being scapegoat of for what he deserves it. Don't

941
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but the problem is a lot bigger

942
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: than just the CEO. It's an entire company wide, board

943
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: wide issue at Boeing that they haven't even come close

944
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: to scratching surface of dealing with.

945
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: Exactly right, Crystal, what are you taking a look at?

946
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: Humanitarian theater? That is how former USAID official Jeremy Kanandyke

947
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: described the now infamous temporary Peer, constructed by the Biden

948
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: administration with the supposed goal of increasing aid to starving Gosins,

949
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: a that consistently sat at land border crossings blocked by

950
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: our great friends and allies, the Israelis. But even as

951
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: potentkin village style theater, the Peer has been such a

952
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: catastrophe that it has even failed in the limited goal

953
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: of providing the Biden administration with some sort of cover

954
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: with Liberals to convince them that they actually care even

955
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: the tiniest bit about Palestinian lives. The Peer has fallen

956
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: apart multiple times, has led to injuries of service members

957
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: charged with building and maintaining it. Its proximity to hostilities

958
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: has put AID workers at further risk, and it has

959
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: actually led to a decrease in the aid that is

960
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: being delivered to starving Palestinians instead of theater. It has

961
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: ended up a perfect symbol of the Biden administration's unique

962
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: combination of incompetence, appetite for humiliation, and extraordinary evil. So

963
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: here's the very latest part of the New York Times.

964
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: US Peer for Gaza Aid is failing and could be

965
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: dismantled early now. In this article they note that since

966
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: its construction, the Peer has been operable a grand total

967
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: of ten days. Ten days the rest of the time,

968
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: they write, it was being repaired after rough seas, broken

969
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: of heart, detached to avoid further damage, or pause because

970
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: of security concerns. In fact, the Peer had to be

971
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: dismantled once again this week over fears of quote rough waters.

972
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: Didn't they know this thing was going to be in

973
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean Sea. Not that the Peer has mattered much

974
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: in the limited days that it has actually been in operation.

975
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: The administration had announced a goal of reaching one hundred

976
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: and fifty trucks of aid dispatched from the Peer on

977
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: a daily basis. On hundred and fifty trucks, that.

978
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 3: Was the goal.

979
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Now this amount by the way would still be insufficient

980
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: given the level of need across the Gaza strip, but

981
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: they have not even come close to this sum. You

982
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: ready for this. Apparently seven trucks of aid have been

983
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: able to move from the Peer on average in the

984
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: few days when it has actually been functioning. Steven Semilar

985
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: over at Responsible Statecraft has more specific details on this

986
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: pathetic trickle of assistance. Quote. Hardly any food from the

987
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Peer on the Gaza coast has actually reached starving gozzins

988
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: since it became operational on May seventeen. The World Food

989
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: Program said only fifteen trucks from the Peer reached its

990
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: warehouse inside Gaza for distribution from May seventeen and eighteen,

991
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: and that no aid at all came from the Peer

992
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: from May nineteen through twenty one. The piece goes on

993
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: to explain that the administration will paint a different picture,

994
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: but they're lying. They like to talk about the tons

995
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: of aid reaching the beach in Gaza, but they don't

996
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: mention the fact that the overwhelming bulk of that aid

997
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: stays on the beach rotting with no distribution mechanism in place.

998
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: In fact, since the vaunted Peer was constructed, a distribution

999
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: has dramatically plummeted to the lowest levels by far all year.

1000
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: You can see in this image here a near eighteen

1001
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: hundred pallets of food were delivered via Peer. Meanwhile, Israel's

1002
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: attacks on Rafa have led to the closure of that crossing,

1003
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: a devastating blow as Rafa had served as a key

1004
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: distribution access point. So not only has Biden done nothing

1005
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: to reopen that Rafa crossing or to otherwise increase AID flow.

1006
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: In truth, the peer serves to let the Israeli government

1007
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: off the hook of our amazing peer is magically solving

1008
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: the AID problem. Then the pressure is eased on bb

1009
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: to crack down on anti AID protesters, to reopen key

1010
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: crossings and stop the outrageous bureaucratic blocks that have intentionally

1011
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: left AID backed up at the borders. In addition, our

1012
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: involvement in the Israeli Hostage Rescue Mission SLASH massacre and

1013
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: the proximity of that operation to the Peer has exacerbated

1014
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: the problems with the peer and the problems with AID

1015
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: delivery in particular. Now the US has acknowledged a role

1016
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: in that massacre, but denies their Peer was used in

1017
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: the attack. However, civilian vehicles were used in the course

1018
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: of the operation, which we aided in and celebrated, increasing

1019
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: the risk for aid workers who have already been frequently targeted.

1020
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: In addition, an idea of helicopter used in the massacre

1021
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: was photographed right next to the Peer. The concerns were

1022
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: grave enough that the US felt the need to put

1023
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: out a statement chastising those engaged in what we called

1024
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: inaccurate social media allegations that the PEER was used for

1025
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: combat operations by the Eye. Yeah, the World Food Program

1026
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: announced they would be suspending aid distribution from the Peer

1027
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: due to those security concerns. So, thanks to US and

1028
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: Israeli idiocy and malevolence, security concerns are becoming increasingly grave.

1029
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: In fact, the Israeli government recently announced they would limit

1030
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: fighting along a key road in order to help with

1031
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: aid distribution, but hasn't made a lock of difference because Gaza,

1032
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: after months of war, annihilation, destruction of government capacity, is

1033
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: increasingly gripped by total anarchy. Organized armed gangs attack and

1034
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: seize trucks with no police force insight or other security

1035
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: forces to stop them. This lawlessness, of course, is entirely predictable.

1036
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: New York Times Rights quote the mass run police force

1037
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: that helps secure the passage of aid earlier in the war,

1038
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: melted away months ago after the Israeli military killed several officers.

1039
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: The lack of any police or rule of law in

1040
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: the area has rendered the road surrounding the crossing highly dangerous,

1041
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: said a un spokesperson. In fact, you may remain that

1042
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: second assault on Al Shifa Hospital back in mid March.

1043
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: In that raid, the idea of killed the head of

1044
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: police operations in Gaza. That was the man who was

1045
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: responsible for coordinating aid distribution between UNRA and Palestinian tribes.

1046
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: Reports on the ground suggested other civil servants and police

1047
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: officers were also killed in that particular raid. So border

1048
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: crossings are blocked and destroyed. The peer is a cruel joke,

1049
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: and the Israelis have successfully created an environment of lawlessness

1050
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: that makes it impossible to deliver what aid actually does

1051
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: enter the strip. Meanwhile, Palestinians are suffering to an unimaginable degree.

1052
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: Dozens of kids that we know of have already died

1053
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: of starvation. One hospital is treating fifty children right now

1054
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: as we speak for severe malnutrition. According to Gaza's Health ministry,

1055
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: as many as thirty five hundred children are currently at

1056
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: risk of starving to death. I can scarcely imagine the

1057
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: pain of being unable to feed your own child, So

1058
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: good riddance to the peer, which has done nothing but

1059
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: escalate this pain. At least we can say that while

1060
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: the humans with power have been unwilling to act with morality,

1061
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: the seas apparently conspired to mete out some modicum of

1062
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: justice on this cruel point of humanitarian coseplay. Sager, we

1063
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: knew that the peer was and

1064
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,680
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1065
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:35,360
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