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Speaker 2: That is right.

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Speaker 3: It is F and A on FSR, Kevin Figures and

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Speaker 3: Adam Austin with you guys at k fig one where

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Speaker 3: you can find me on next you can find Adam

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Speaker 3: at follow Adam A Adam is going on?

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Speaker 1: I wish I could find a rundown. Where's bree breathe?

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Speaker 1: What's happening here? She's dropping the ball. This doesn't normally happen.

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Speaker 1: There's like two rundowns in my hand typically before we

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Speaker 1: start the show, Breeze, Am I A huh, I guess

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Speaker 1: maybe she went to the liquor store across the street.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything by that.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait are you trying to say no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I know it's late on a Friday night if you

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Speaker 3: on the East coast. So you're saying that she's knocking

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Speaker 3: a few back while she's on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Here, bree bombs. I don't know miss life in an

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Speaker 1: alcoholic case, man, No, I don't that's the case.

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Speaker 3: That is the case, Adam. Why does she breaking bread?

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Speaker 3: Why does she bring this? Bring us back a drink?

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Speaker 1: You're right the hell I need a rundown and a drink. Stats.

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Speaker 1: We do have a good show for you, if I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly, I think we got e from Salm coming

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Speaker 1: on who of course does it right here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio on Fox Sports Football Sundays, we also have

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Speaker 1: some geek news or is it stranger within fiction? You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm calling it stranger within fiction because there

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Speaker 1: was a basketball record broken recently by a gym teacher

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Speaker 1: that it was again his book, a World Records type

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Speaker 1: of feat, like it's incredible. When you hear about this,

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Speaker 1: you will say stranger than fiction or Ripley's believe it

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Speaker 1: or not that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: This was a sanctioned game that a gym teacher was

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Speaker 3: playing in, or like this is just something that he

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Speaker 3: scored two hundred points against, like a middle school team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was Bill Murray and Rushmore just blocking all

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Speaker 1: the kids out there on the court.

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Speaker 3: He's out there just doing the mic and drill, getting

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Speaker 3: two hundred rebounds and a half or something.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't that. It's legit, it's documented. It's on video.

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Speaker 1: We will transcribe it for you, or we will use

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Speaker 1: the audio medium to make sure you guys understand what

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Speaker 1: the record was, but that's coming up later this hour.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, speaking of legit, we got to talk

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Speaker 3: about the team with the best record in the NFL

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Speaker 3: and are they a legit championship contender.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to that in first off, done, that's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Patriots beat the Jets on Thursday Night football and everybody's

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Speaker 1: freaking out. Okay, it's not because they beat the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I do want to say this, our old buddy Oap

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Speaker 1: overly something, Pat, that.

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Speaker 3: Guy overly aggressive with some of the voicemails he used

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Speaker 3: to leave us back in the day.

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Speaker 2: I guess you can call.

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Speaker 1: Him, yeah, overly angry. There's a lot of different DA's.

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Speaker 1: You could say, he sent me this statistic about justin fields.

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Speaker 2: By the way, before you get to that, just for

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Speaker 2: those listeners.

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Speaker 3: So back in the old FNA podcast days, we had

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Speaker 3: a voicemail line and people can call in and leave

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Speaker 3: voicemails and overly angry Pat, I guess we'll call them today,

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Speaker 3: would always call in and usually just take shots at

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Speaker 1: Half straight minutes like this, as right, you're heavier than me.

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Speaker 1: Now called me a fat ass? Now this matchup on

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Speaker 1: reason Drake May looks so good out there. First of all,

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Speaker 1: that's false. He's been good, he's been the MVP favorite

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Speaker 1: jarring the contrast between these two performers out there. Listen

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Speaker 1: to this stat. Justin Fields is averaging one hundred and

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Speaker 1: He's either thrown for less than sixty yards every game

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Speaker 1: four of six with twenty three yards. Is that real?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I can't even call it feast or famine, because nobody

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Speaker 3: So it's just been like famine and it's kind of

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Speaker 2: It's kind of how I would look at it.

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Speaker 1: You got the deep pride pickles as your appetizer, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what that is. You are not satiated because of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about this early in the year

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Speaker 3: It's been the story of his career and the reason

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Speaker 3: what he did against Pittsburgh on Opening Day. That's the

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Speaker 3: he just has been so frustratingly inconsistent, and that has

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Speaker 3: So to a certain degree, you can't really be surprised

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Speaker 3: because that's generally what he's been.

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Speaker 1: They continue to chase, you know, he's so mobile out there.

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Speaker 1: If he could just be solid passing wise, we'd really

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Speaker 2: Maybe he ain't got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's time to give up. I think

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Speaker 1: it's over. It's not happening with him now, Drake may

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Speaker 1: It's all happening. It's all there. And what is this

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Speaker 1: charmed life that the Patriots fans are living the past

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Speaker 1: thirty seasons now where they only had to go what

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Speaker 1: five years between the end of Tom Brady to now

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Speaker 1: having his successor the heir apparent. And I will say

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Speaker 1: if you're the guy after Tom Brady or Bill Belichick. Well,

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Speaker 1: they've already gone through a coach there and drawed Mayo.

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Speaker 1: maybe less pressure on may to have to follow the

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback ever, the Lote whatever you want to call him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean there's certainly a connection there to a

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Speaker 3: handoff in Indianapolis from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck with

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Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers with far off to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Right and if you want to even extrapa late that

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Speaker 3: out to right now with Jordan Love, who's not putting

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Speaker 3: to be an upper echelon quarterback the longer his career

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Speaker 1: But you're right, Montana, Steve Young.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're right to a certain degree when it

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Speaker 3: like he was not talked about that off He was talking.

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Speaker 3: It was Bo Nicks, and it was Caleb Williams, and

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Speaker 3: it was pretty much everybody except for Drake May who

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of question marks about. They say,

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Speaker 3: he has a bunch of raw talent, can he put

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Speaker 2: You bring in Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 3: They did spend a lot of money this offseason and

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Speaker 3: did a good job of retooling that roster, but Nobody,

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Speaker 1: There's a crazy connection also with Mike Rabel being the

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady dynasty. I believe the last game Brady

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, whom Mike Rabel was the head coach of.

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Speaker 1: And he may have thrown an interception in his last

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Speaker 1: now you got Rabel as the head coach. Obviously he

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Speaker 1: I want to say he converted a two point conversion

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Panthers when they were repeating that

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Speaker 1: was their second of the three. You had them beating

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Speaker 3: Steve Vrabel has a crazy stat I forget the exact number,

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Speaker 3: but he's caught like eight. He caught like eight passes

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Speaker 3: he was just a red zone guy. He was a

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Speaker 1: But he worked against the Panthers in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Damn it my Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm still upset about it, So maybe I have an

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Speaker 1: extra grind against him. But he's good. He's a good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, there are parallels to draw to the

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Speaker 2: I'm not a Tom Brady truther.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's the greatest of all time, but

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Speaker 3: I certainly think he's in the top five. But he

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Speaker 3: certainly had his part, and a dominant defense on the

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Speaker 3: Patriots also had their part. Mike Rabel, as you mentioned

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Speaker 3: a second ago, was part of that. And if you

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Speaker 3: look at the Patriots start to this season, Drake may

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, the front runner for MVPs the best

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Speaker 3: and the Patriots are in the top five defensively in every.

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Speaker 3: So that same formula that the Patriots won with, and

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Speaker 3: there Bill Belichick Tom Brady dynasty. They're sort of mimicking

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Speaker 1: So their defense is good. They have a running game.

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Speaker 1: But Drake may has been off the charts good. Some

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Speaker 1: were saying he was Drake maybe that was his nickname,

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Speaker 1: and now they're calling him Drake definitely like he's a star.

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Speaker 1: He might win the MVP. They went four and thirteen

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Speaker 1: last year. They're nine to two now. He has nineteen

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Speaker 1: touchdowns twenty five hundred passing yards. That's both third in

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Speaker 1: the NFL in both those categories. His qbrs at one fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Playing behind an offensive line and this may do them

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Speaker 1: in in the end. That gives up four sacks per game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been sacked the second most times in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: So he's gotten wins in Buffalo and then on the

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Speaker 3: Those are the two best wins, by the way. The

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Speaker 2: If you were to believe him and his statement that

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Speaker 1: On Friday night, why would I do that?

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Speaker 3: Because I can remember a press conference that Nick Saban

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, absolutely, So that we can't act like that's

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the quickest anybody's died on a hill

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't paint him as a liar if he decided

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Speaker 3: things go. If there are people who are incumbents that

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Speaker 3: are still there, they're probably gonna be a little salty

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Speaker 3: about things changing. I don't know if they're changing for

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Speaker 3: the better or the worse or not. But whether you

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Speaker 3: agreed with the Belichick higher, whether you like the stuff

445
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Speaker 3: he's doing with the Jordan Hudson stuff, whether Michae Lombardi's

446
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Speaker 3: a little too abrasive for a lot of people. They're

447
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Speaker 3: not gonna They're not gonna blow these guys out after

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Speaker 3: one year. So Bill Belichick is gonna leave on his

449
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Speaker 3: own on his own volition here in the next couple

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Speaker 3: of seasons. Now, if it bottoms out and he wins

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Speaker 3: one game next year, sure, But outside of something extreme,

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Speaker 3: the thought that Bill Belichick was gonna be a one

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Speaker 3: and done at North Carolina and it was gonna be

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Speaker 3: their call to get rid of him is never gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: The only way he leaves North Carolina is if it's

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Speaker 2: going to be his choice.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see him back in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: to be honest the whole We're going to be the

459
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Speaker 1: thirty third NFL team as a college team at North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: It feels more like a retirement home type of trip

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Speaker 1: for him where he doesn't seem that engage. He's got

462
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Speaker 1: a twenty four year old girlfriend. I want to see

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Speaker 1: him back with the edge that he had at the

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Speaker 1: professional level.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the issue too, I mean, how much edge

466
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Speaker 3: did he have left at the pro level because look

467
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Speaker 3: at how things like we talked about a couple of

468
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Speaker 3: minutes ago, how look how things ended in New England.

469
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Speaker 3: It was so bad when New England let him go

470
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Speaker 3: and he was a free agent as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: The Falcons were the only team that even interviewed him

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Speaker 3: and their openings, you know, seither Raiders were open. There

473
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Speaker 3: were a couple of jobs, there were a handful of

474
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Speaker 3: jobs that were absolutely open, and Bill Belichick couldn't even

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Speaker 3: gardner an interview for those franchises. So what does that

476
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Speaker 3: tell you, Well, maybe the demand for Bill Belichick to

477
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Speaker 3: the NFL isn't as high as we assume it is.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it could have dried up. But if there's a

479
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Speaker 1: way to get your edge back, it's going to a

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Speaker 1: team like the New York Giants, dealing with that media

481
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Speaker 1: and those pressers, and we may get him back to

482
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Speaker 1: being as obstinate and as cantankerous as he used to

483
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: be and as stubborn as he used to be. And

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Speaker 1: on to Cincinnati, Like that's the Bill Belichick. I need

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Speaker 1: back in my life.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know what we have back in our lives

487
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Speaker 3: as Breed, I just heard her in my ear b.

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Speaker 3: Did you bring me a drink?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: You're die Coke on its way?

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, die coke with what the bourburn in

492
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Speaker 2: there or something?

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Speaker 1: Right late nine hour? I'm not drinking. Kevin's got a

494
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Speaker 1: drink for two? Now for three?

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Speaker 2: Apparently you're Breed ain't getting me for herself either, Got

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Speaker 2: all right?

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Speaker 1: At least we'll wait till after the show here. But

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Speaker 1: coming up next, the MVPs in both leagues in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball have been awarded Aaron Judge one in the

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Speaker 1: American League. Should he have we'll tell you next. It's

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Speaker 1: Keming up, we got stranger than fiction. A gym teacher

524
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: sets a new Guinness Book of World record in basketball.

525
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Speaker 1: But we got to talk about what occurred in the

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Speaker 1: al MVP voting in Major League Baseball. Now, nobody's going

527
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Speaker 1: to argue about Otani. Nobody even cares who was second.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know, pretty sure was Kyle Schwarber. But

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Speaker 1: it was pretty much a two horse race between those two.

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Speaker 1: People in Philly might argue against it. They can argue

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Speaker 1: all they won. Otwani had like five innings pitch during

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Speaker 1: the regular season, and that's good enough.

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Speaker 3: It was like forty seven for the two eight seven rora.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was fifty five home runs.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty impeccable unicorn stuff. Yes, but for

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Speaker 2: a catcher, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: To hit sixty home runs, that's also unicorn stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, switch hitting catcher at that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, cayl Rawly lost in first place votes

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Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen to Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: This was something we were going to get into before

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Speaker 1: the voting came out, but because it comes out so late,

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Speaker 1: it's so convenient to be able to talk about this

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Speaker 1: story now since we have the final result.

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Speaker 3: Is this like the Major League Baseball trying to like

548
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Speaker 3: mimic the NFL and trying to stay relevant for as

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Speaker 3: long as they possibly can. Probably, like the NFL stays

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Speaker 3: relevant year round. The combine, the draft, mini camps, all

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Speaker 3: that stuff.

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Speaker 1: It stretches out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baseball season ended two weeks ago and here they

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Speaker 3: are just now getting out their awards.

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Speaker 1: It keeps us talking about them. The World Series was

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Speaker 1: so one week ago, like yeah, right, Yeah, it feels

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Speaker 1: like we're moving pretty quickly in a twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven sports news cycle. I gotta say it was close

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Speaker 1: enough to me where I wouldn't be upset whoever won.

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Speaker 1: But I do think cal Rally has an interesting case

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Speaker 1: only because people keep saying, look at the numbers with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, no kidding, his numbers are better. He's not

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Speaker 1: sitting down and doing the most demanding physical thing in

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Speaker 1: baseball like cal Raley was doing, which is why he's

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Speaker 1: the only guy at his position ever to hit that

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Speaker 1: many home runs. It's very unique. It is a one off.

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Speaker 1: It's the triple double in basketball, which became the norm. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit for Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 2: And James Harden got in there too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys did it enough times that it felt like

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a special This is special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is probably never going to be duplicated again.

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Speaker 1: No, I was looking. I was thinking about Mike Piazza. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: he never hit more than forty, and people accused him

575
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Speaker 1: of doing royds when he was hitting forty.

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Speaker 2: He was also hitting like three point thirty or whatever too,

577
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Speaker 2: which was insane.

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Speaker 1: They also accused him of being gay, not that there's

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Speaker 1: anything wrong with that, but that's well.

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Speaker 3: He felt that it was false enough and important enough

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Speaker 3: to hold the press conference only to announce that he

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Speaker 3: wasn't gay.

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Speaker 1: So was it the bleached hair like?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 1: I don't know either, but that was the most awkward

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Speaker 1: press conference of all time. Yeah, I'm just saying. There

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Speaker 1: are I think six guys total in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: history that have hit sixty home runs.

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Speaker 2: Make it seven, he's seven he had. Kyl Riley is

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Speaker 2: the seventh. Yes, do you know.

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Speaker 1: Who the other six are? Kevin shot off top.

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Speaker 3: I know a couple, but I can't say I probably

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Speaker 3: don't know all of them. So you got bonds and

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Speaker 3: bonds in there, Sosa maguire, That is correct, alright?

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Speaker 2: What else? Who else?

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge who got the sixty two and twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two in one over Otani and Babe Ruth, Roger Merris.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Cal Rawley's in that group.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: The problem is, and look, he's I mean he's not old,

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Speaker 3: but he's also not He's not twenty one either. He's

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Speaker 3: not going to be anywhere close to those names with

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Speaker 3: the remainder of his career. This, for all intents and purposes,

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Speaker 3: no disrespect to him is a one off, and some

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Speaker 3: people think And so here's the question to Adam too,

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Speaker 3: because the novelty of it we talked about. You talked

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Speaker 3: about the fact that he's a catcher playing a demanding

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Speaker 3: defensive position. He called one hundred and twenty plus games

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Speaker 3: this year at catcher while also hitting all of those

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Speaker 3: home runs. How much does the context matter when talking

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Speaker 3: about the MVP, how much of him leading the Mariners

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Speaker 3: to their first Division championship since two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: narratives like that, the fact that this is such a novelty,

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Speaker 3: does that skew the way that you think about whether

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Speaker 3: or not you would give him the nod over someone

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Speaker 3: like Aaron Judge who's having a phenomenal season and you know,

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Speaker 3: to hit three twenty and have that many home runs

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Speaker 3: in RBI is incredible. But it's not like we haven't

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Speaker 3: seen Judge do something similar to this before.

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Speaker 1: The romantic side of them winning for the first time

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Speaker 1: since two thousand and one, tucked away up in the

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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest with the Seattle Mariners, that means less to

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Speaker 1: me than just him being a catcher like he's doing

625
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: something because in baseball we try to measure everything. Yeah,

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00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: and in this case, there's a real and tangible that

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00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: we can't grasp outside of players and their experience of

628
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: talking about it and how difficult it is to catch

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Speaker 1: every day. And I think eleven of his came as

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00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: a DH but still he's over fifty home runs playing

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Speaker 1: the catcher position. Like we want to measure everything, there

632
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: is stat casting trackers for everything out there nowadays. So

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00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: to me, you have to grade him versus other catchers,

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Speaker 1: And how much better is he against other guys who

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: have played that position. And I was looking at war

636
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: and Will Smith has a war of four. He's second

637
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: wins above replacement. Not perfect, it's not a perfect measurement.

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00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: It's not perfect stat than never are. Cal Rawley has

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00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: a war of nine, by the way, more than twice

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Speaker 1: as high for comparison's sake.

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Speaker 3: It's a different position at outfield, but judge at the

642
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: highest the hills was like nine point six at least

643
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: according to fangrabs. There's different measurements for this, but so

644
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: the gap was not that wide. So when you talk

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00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: about war, which for a lot of people kind of

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00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: use as a big measuring stick to determine someone's value

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00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: to the team that they play for.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice simple catch all, I guess, but how

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00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: many is he hitting if he's putting the physical toll

650
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: on his body? Aaron Judge, of what cal Rawly did?

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: He ain't hitting six, he ain't hitting what did he

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: end up with? Fifty five?

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00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: Had three? He had fifty three.

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Speaker 1: Down year for Aaron Judge, I mean that does speak

655
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Speaker 1: to his greatness slacker, and he shouldn't have that held

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00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: against him. I'm not doing that. I am just saying, like,

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00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: what is more difficult? What is more taxing? I think

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Speaker 1: hitting sixty as a catcher is now a lot of

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Speaker 1: the other numbers.

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Speaker 4: You know.

661
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge obviously has him in batting average by like

662
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: seventy points.

663
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: Yes, everybody.

664
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Speaker 3: I mean he won the batting title in the AL

665
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: and would have won the National league going away on.

666
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Base percentage, slugging percentage ops ops plus. Although cal Rawley

667
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: hasn't in some of the clutch stats in those areas

668
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: this season where he came up big in big spots.

669
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing I will say that kind of works

670
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: in Aaron judges favor. You don't see power hitters also

671
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: hit for average like this. There is especially in recent

672
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: years like this is Barry Bonds type stuff, where you're

673
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: hitting three twenty and you're also hitting sixty bombs other

674
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: than him over the past forty years. You really don't

675
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: all the power hitters we talked about. And you can

676
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: go back to Mayor sure, a long time ago, but

677
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: your sosas these guys were hitting two fifty to sixty

678
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: even in the height of their home run chases. These

679
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: guys are not tearing the cover off the ball hitting

680
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: three twenty. It's really difficult, especially today's day and age

681
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball, just to hit three hundred. In general,

682
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: I think Trey Turner won the batting title in the

683
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: National League and hit what like three zho five or.

684
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: Something or three oh seven, something like that. Yeah, Aaron

685
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: Judge hit three twenty one, hit for average, and hit

686
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: for power. That's really difficult to do too.

687
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: I have no issue with him winning. I just want

688
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: to examine how close this was well or if cal

689
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Raley had won. Would there really be an uproar? Would

690
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: people say we're taking Aaron Judge for granted, we're holding

691
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: recent success against him. He's a victim of his own

692
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: greatness over the years. I actually think if cal Rawley won,

693
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: most people would have shut up and been like, you

694
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: know what, We're never going to see this again. This

695
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: is the cal Raley season and we need to celebrate

696
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: it further into the offseason.

697
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

698
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: You know, if Aaron Judge had been a good player

699
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: throughout his career but never really had a breakout season

700
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: until now, because he's a Yankee where he plays and

701
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: all that, I think that would have played into it.

702
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: But because he's had already won a couple of MVPs

703
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: coming into it, he's put up great numbers, we kind

704
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: of know the kind of player that he is.

705
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: I tend to agree that.

706
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people would say it'd be

707
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: good if Aaron Judge won it. But it's a really

708
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: cool story for someone like cal Raley to etch his

709
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: name into the record books. Aaron Judge was going to

710
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: be an all time great regardless of what happened this season,

711
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: the numbers he had already put up, if he continues

712
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: on the trajectory that he's on, he'll be amazing. Kyle

713
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 3: Rally is going to be a guy. No disrespect to him,

714
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: and look, maybe he flipped the switch and maybe he'll

715
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: hit forty home runs the remainder of his career going forward.

716
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: Who knows, some guys find it late. Cliff Lee was

717
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: a pitcher and founded past the age of thirty and

718
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: got it late and was a great pitcher of the

719
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: last seven eight years of his career, So it can't happen.

720
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: But that's unlikely. So this is most likely going to

721
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: be a flash in the pan. The greatest season of

722
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: Kyle Raley's professional life.

723
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: And it would have been cool to be.

724
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: Able to say that he was able to get himself

725
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: an MVP award because he's probably never gonna sniff it again.

726
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: For me, I don't want to say that's the factor,

727
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: but it's something that wouldn't push him over the edge.

728
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: For me, I just can't stop thinking about how no

729
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: other catcher has gotten close to this in Major League baseball.

730
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: He ended up hitting over eight percent of home runs

731
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: by all catchers this year in Major League Baseball, and

732
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: to do it late in the season in a division

733
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: where when he hit number sixty and I think sixty

734
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: one in the same game in Seattle and the crowd

735
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: was chanting for him before he hit it, it felt

736
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: like a damn movie out there. You're not supposed to

737
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: have What happens with catchers is and I saw this

738
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: with Buster Posey. You look at his power numbers and

739
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if he hit more than thirty. He

740
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: was around there at his tops when he won the

741
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: MVP in twenty twelve. I think it was. You see

742
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: the toll it takes as the season goes along. It

743
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: SAPs their power, it SAPs their energy. They don't have

744
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: sustained power and energy throughout the entire season, and cal

745
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Rawley was like getting stronger as the year went along.

746
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: That to me was so incredible. I just it defies logic, nature,

747
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: everything we know about the position. And if it wasn't baseball,

748
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: because this Baseball Riders are America. The vote for this

749
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: right correct? Yes, what if it was more former players?

750
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Because typically I am good with the writers, but this

751
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: is a really unique case where I need more inputs

752
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: from guys who have played the position or are just

753
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: played Major League Baseball and know how difficult this is.

754
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we needed to hear more from former

755
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: players because I remember John Smoltz and it was the

756
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: announcer name slips my mind, Joe Davis. During the playoff

757
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: run they were talking about it a little bit, and

758
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Joe Davis was like, yeah, Aaron Judge, and John Smoltz

759
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: was like, he was like stunned of cow in the

760
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: same way people get stunned by Otani and everything he's

761
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: able to do because they know how difficult it is,

762
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: because they have played. And I think that has to

763
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: carry a little bit more weight in this situation, and

764
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't by the voters because they aren't former players.

765
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: I think that's something to consider here.

766
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: And also talking about playing the catcher position, the most

767
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: difficult defensive position in all of baseball, not only because

768
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: you're squatting back there for hours at a time, you're

769
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: controlling a pitching staff. They have the tenth best era

770
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: in the major leagues. It's not great, but tenth out

771
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: of thirties certainly ain't terrible. I mean, how much are

772
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: you impacting and affecting the game every night?

773
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean immensely, every single thing filters through you.

774
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: I used to think when Buster Posey was catching during

775
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, typically his numbers would go down hitting wise,

776
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: but he called such great games for the Giants when

777
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: they won three and five years. I was like, I

778
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: don't care about his power numbers. What matters is what

779
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: a good game he calls out there and how comfortable

780
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: pitchers are with him. So that should be one of

781
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: the variables, a big one in this case.

782
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: Well, the last point, and I think the writer's got

783
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: a right to a certain degree. I mean, two more

784
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: votes go his way. We actually end up with a tie,

785
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: which I don't know if that's ever happened before in

786
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: the history of Major League Baseball.

787
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 2: I know what's happened to the NFL.

788
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning and Steve McNair shared one, Barry Sanders, Brett Favre.

789
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Maybe did they share it one?

790
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: Okay, it feels like there's definitely one more.

791
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: I know that Rookie of the Year in the NBA

792
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: there was a share. Jason Kidd shared it with hand Hill,

793
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: I believe. So we've had this happen in the past

794
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 3: and informers pro sports, but we were just two other votes.

795
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 3: He who first plays votes for cal rally away from

796
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: this being a tie, and then everybody's happy or everybody's

797
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: upset at that point, I'm not sure how we judge it,

798
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: how we judge no pun intended at that point.

799
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Where Americans, we don't do ties here, all right, coming

800
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: up next, there's an American that may be better at

801
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: shooting three pointers than Steph Curry. Shut your mouth, who

802
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: dropped like forty eight tonight? And a win over the

803
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs. An unknown player in Maine maybe the

804
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: greatest shooter of all time. We'll have that for you

805
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: coming up next. And stranger than fiction Here on F

806
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: and A on FSR.

807
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 5: It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and

808
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 5: I am all out of gum.

809
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Fn A cotton.

810
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: Back here in F and A on FSR, Fox Football Saturday.

811
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: Coming up next hour, we will have the NFL six pack.

812
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: We will also speak to Fox Sports radio host and

813
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: former NFL offensive lineman Ephraim Salaam.

814
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: But coming up right now, Adam, what do we have?

815
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Stranger than fiction? Baby, let's go papers. A fast food

816
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: customer defending perticises n called nine to one one after

817
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: her McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

818
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Strange.

819
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 6: They did a drunk man riding a horse at EWI

820
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 6: and he got Unlike card boards, just don't have motors.

821
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 4: They have a mind in their own.

822
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Strange things begin twenty four year old man now jues

823
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: they're throwing an alligator through a drive through window. Too high, strange.

824
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 7: Fish.

825
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: So we know the league in the NBA is leaning

826
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: into three point shooting more so than ever.

827
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: Thanks to him, they've leaned forward, they've fallen into the pool.

828
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: Now you're right, this isn't and he are you? Okay?

829
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: This is not that type of lean they have fallen in.

830
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Teams are averaging thirty seven point two to three pointers

831
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: per game this season, which is shockingly down from thirty

832
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: seven points six to three pointers per game last season.

833
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: But we got a lot of time to go. But

834
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: if you go back ten years, teams were taking thirteen

835
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: less three pointers per game then, and obviously twenty years

836
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: we're talking like twenty less three pointers.

837
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Oh, they were taking like four and a half a

838
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: game or something.

839
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: Now, why do they take more threes? Because they're worth

840
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: more than two's check out?

841
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: You know.

842
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: Someone once famously asked Antoine Walker why he shoot so

843
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: many threes, and his answer was because they don't have

844
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: any fours.

845
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: But they're snipers everywhere now like it's counter strike. You

846
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: even got a social media star named the Lethal Shooter, Yes,

847
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: real name, Chris Matthews. To hardball different Chris Matthews, he's

848
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: out there putting dude perfect guys to shame with his accuracy.

849
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: I've seen him shoot a gummy bear into a water

850
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: bottle from mike half court. He's like bulls Eye and Daredevil.

851
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't miss why because he understands it now. Uh.

852
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: There are, though, some weekend warriors who are still getting

853
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: after it, like this gym teacher formerly known as mister

854
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: Maine Basketball, Ryan Martin, teaching at Seiko Middle School, who

855
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: just set his third Guinness Book of World Records title

856
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: for a basketball feat as get this, Kevin. He hit

857
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: one thousand, five hundred and sixteen high school three pointers

858
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: in one hour.

859
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Now, I don't believe it.

860
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: He attempted one thousand, six hundred and eighty three and

861
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: hit one thousand, five hundred and sixteen in one hour.

862
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: That means, by my math, you are getting up just

863
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: over twenty eight threes a minute. And he shot ninety

864
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: percent from three in an hour.

865
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: That is insane. I talk about dead arm. My god.

866
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: So the record was one thousand, three hundred and seventy two.

867
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: He exceeded it by one hundred and forty five made shots.

868
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: He previously broke a Guinness World record by sinking one thousand,

869
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three thirty four to three pointers

870
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: in one hour from the NBA style three point line,

871
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: which is like three feet back.

872
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: So this guy has to be in the three point shootout, right,

873
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: you would think I will love to say, like a

874
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: regular everyday Joe high school gym teacher in a three

875
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: point shootout against a professional athlete.

876
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Because this guy's a ringer. Obviously, this is what he does.

877
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: I know he's not a professional player, but he might

878
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: thrive in a situation like that. That's an All Star

879
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: weekend event that I want to see.

880
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: He might be five eight. I was trying to look

881
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: up his specs and what he did in college. It

882
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: looked like he might have only played like ten games.

883
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: But he also has the record for most free throws

884
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: made in an hour, twenty four hundred and ninety four.

885
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: He's a lethal shooter. He's nasty. Scuy can shoot.

886
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

887
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: Let's get him into the NBA All Star Weekend. I

888
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: might actually watch this time. If that's the case.

889
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Get him against Steph Curry, whoever is the best in

890
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: the WNBA. I'm all for it. At into a dome

891
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: FNA on FSR coming up.

892
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 6: Next, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

893
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: That is right hour two of FNA on FSR, Fox

894
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Speaker 3: Football Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Hit us up

895
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 3: on the Socials at k FIG one is where you

896
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: can find me on X. You can find Adam at

897
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 3: Follow Adam A on X as well.

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Speaker 1: Hey from Salam coming up very next segment, our Fox

899
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Sports Radio coworker, whether he likes it or not. We

900
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: got to give you our low level amateur opinions though

901
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: here in the NFL Week eleven, and we do that

902
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: with this mark time for the NFL six pack. All right,

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00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Ken hot seat heat check.

904
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: Yes, six categories, all surrounding the National Football League category

905
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: number one, as we do each and every single week

906
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: here on fn A on FSR, the hot seat heat

907
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: check the coach or player under the most pressure headed

908
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: into this weekend of NFL action, Adam, where do you

909
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: want to start?

910
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: You know where I'm gonna start. I'm starting with my

911
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Panthers fandom. It is on the hot seat. Some say

912
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: I've been waffling back and forth this season on whether

913
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: they are my Panthers again or just the Panthers, and

914
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: I can't decide if I want to be a fan

915
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: of them again. But now I'm basically sitting on a

916
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: waffle iron. That's how hot my seat is as a

917
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: Panther's fan, where I might stand up and walk out

918
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: at any moment. After they somehow lost at home to

919
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: Breeze New Orleans Saints, the fans there at Bank of

920
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: America Stadium should have had a walk out to illustrate

921
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: their disgust. They should have to take some of those

922
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: paper bags from Saints fans and put them over the

923
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: Panther statue out front of the arena.

924
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: Can the Panther fans do what the Panther owner did

925
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: and walk out and just flip off the entire team

926
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: as they walk out of the stadium.

927
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that would have done something.

928
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: If you you're cool, they should have locked the team

929
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: in the closet for seven minutes of hell with the

930
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: disgrace statue of Jerry Richardson that was taken down and

931
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: hidden somewhere in the bowels of the stadium at Bank

932
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: of America Stadium. I'm not sure the team has had

933
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: worse losses than this in their history, which is saying something.

934
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: But when you are this close to losing me again,

935
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: a pathetic fair Weather fan, you know things.

936
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: Are bad as Fairweather as he gets.

937
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: It's kinda the reversal of the Godfather three line that

938
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: everyone remembers, even though most didn't even watch the movie

939
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: because it pales in comparisons to the first two.

940
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: Dereby shears, like, oh, Godfather three suck. Don't even watch it.

941
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: So there's a large sext of the population who just

942
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: haven't watched it.

943
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen this scene, and I'm gonna put a

944
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: twist on this because this is me and my Panthers

945
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: fandom right now. Just when I thought I was in,

946
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: they pulled me back out. I was back in. They

947
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: were five and four with a real chance of making

948
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which I predicted. I said the Saints were

949
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: too easy victories, meaning they were really seven and four

950
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: at the time, and instead they lose at home to them,

951
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: ain'ts Tyler Schuck out played Bryce Young. His quarterback rating

952
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: was twice as high as Young's, Like he's twice as

953
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: tall as Bryce Young as well, I feel twice as

954
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: high just saying that right now, Like, how is it

955
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: is five o'clock? Frequent giveaway? I must have been on

956
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: something thinking the Panthers actually were capable of taking advantage

957
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: of two free wins. Now they face an Atlanta team

958
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: on the road who are going to be upset and

959
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: looking for payback because Carolina beat them thirty to nothing

960
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: earlier this season. I could see them returning the favor.

961
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: The Panthers have completely fallen out of favor with me

962
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: once again. They burn me enough times that my fanship

963
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: is on the hot seat and my tush is simmering

964
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: and squealing like a teapot used to build tension in

965
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: a horror movie. Because that's what it's like watching these Panthers.

966
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in a horror movie, a loop, a groundhog Day,

967
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: like that Happy Death Day movie. That's what happens to

968
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: us every Sunday as we die a little more following

969
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: this team. That's why their uniforms are black for the

970
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: never ending funeral they just put us through. Here lies

971
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: another failed season of being a Carolina Panthers fan.

972
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: Until they win this weekend and next weekend and their

973
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: back in the playoff race and Adams back to wearing

974
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 3: his Carolina Panther cap again.

975
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's different, by the way, I don't see

976
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: it happening.

977
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, lest I mix up my owners do it behaving poorly.

978
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: The Jerry Jones is the one that flipped off fans.

979
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: It was the owner of the Carolina Panthers who threw

980
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: a drink at a fan.

981
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right.

982
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: The Carolina Panthers players all through their drinks at the players,

983
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: the fans of the drinks at the players.

984
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: I think that would be suitable for what happened to

985
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: them last week.

986
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: That would make for a good segment like we used

987
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: to do with NFL players gone wild. Oh, the girl's

988
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: gone wild, it's gone owner's gone wild. Maybe we'll get

989
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: to it at some point. But who's on your hot seat?

990
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: Who's your hot seat? Heat check?

991
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 3: Evan Adam, I am sticking with this exact same game,

992
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: but I'm flipping it on you. I'm actually going to

993
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 3: Raheem Morris and the Atlanta Falcons in this game. Oh

994
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: because I started earlier in the season and I was

995
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 3: in the minority. Granted, it seems like I thought Atlanta

996
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: was primed for to make a bit of a jump

997
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: this year. Whether that meant actually making the playoffs or

998
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: not sure debatable, but I certainly thought they'd be good

999
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: enough to at least be in the conversation by the

1000
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: time we got to like early December, I looked at

1001
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: what they had going for them this year coming into

1002
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: this a defense that got an infusion of talent in

1003
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: the draft, and offensive unit that has the best running

1004
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: back in the NFL, or at least one of them,

1005
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: and be John, a top eight receiver in Drake London,

1006
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: second year quarterback who a lot of pundits thought will

1007
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: take a giant step forward this year.

1008
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: After you played decently the last five.

1009
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: Six games of last season, and they had a schedule

1010
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily easy on paper, but certainly favorable enough

1011
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: to where you could see your path to nine or

1012
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: ten wins. Well, you fast forward through the first nine

1013
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: games of this season, they are three and six. They're

1014
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: hopes of making any sort of run in the postseason

1015
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: are not officially dead, but for all intentsive purposes, I'll

1016
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 3: put it this way, their life support is on life support,

1017
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. So it's hard to say they've

1018
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: even played well enough to win last week against the

1019
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 3: Colts in Germany because Indians shot themselves in the foot

1020
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: so much it was insane. Two turnovers, missfield goal, they

1021
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 3: got stopped on fourth down twice, the Colts had over

1022
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: five hundred yards of offense, with Jonathan Taylor having two

1023
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: hundred and forty four on the ground by himself. If

1024
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: not for the Colt self inflicted wounds, the Falcons would

1025
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: have gotten run out of the entire continent of Europe.

1026
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: It would have been that ugly.

1027
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: So outside of a throw here and there, when it

1028
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: comes to Michael Pennis, he looks more like an overmatch

1029
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 3: rookie at times than a second year top ten pick

1030
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: on the ascent. So now, before the season began, Arthur

1031
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: Blank did say this Adham. He said he expected Atlanta

1032
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: to quote have a very competitive season.

1033
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: Now that's a pretty vague term. I don't know exactly

1034
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: what that means. Does that mean playing in close games

1035
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: but not necessarily winning a lot of them? Does that

1036
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: mean being in the playoff race down the stretch of

1037
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 2: the season. If it's the former, then I guess they're

1038
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: living up to expectations. I mentioned they're three and six.

1039
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: They did beat Buffalo at Minnesota. I would say those

1040
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: are two pretty good wins.

1041
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: But you mentioned thirty to nothing to Carolina blown out

1042
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: by the Dolphins.

1043
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: Granted, Kirk Cousin started.

1044
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: In that game, so maybe you get a bit of

1045
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: a mulligan for that one, but three point loss to Tampa,

1046
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: ten point loss to San Francisco when San Francisco scored

1047
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 3: that last touchdown with just under the two minute warnings,

1048
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 3: so that was late.

1049
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: It was a closed game.

1050
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: And then at one point lost to the Patriots, who

1051
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: we lauded at the top of the show as being

1052
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl contender. And then the six point loss

1053
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: as we mentioned to the Coats last week. So only

1054
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 3: Arthur Blank knows exactly what is expectations for this team

1055
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: were coming into the season. I know this, At this

1056
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: current pace, they were end the season with five wins.

1057
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: They won eight games last year at them eight, So

1058
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: we can argue about whether or not Atlanta should be

1059
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: a playoff team this season. You know, I said I

1060
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: thought they might be able. You said you didn't think

1061
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: they would beat That's fine.

1062
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: I know this.

1063
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: The over under for them coming into the year was

1064
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: nine wins at worst. I thought they might be finished

1065
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: with eight. Again, some were huffing around five hundred.

1066
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: Not this bad.

1067
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh wait, have they lost to the Saints yet? Have

1068
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: they done what the Panthers have done? Are they that bad?

1069
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they've quite lost to the Saints yet.

1070
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the Saints only have two wins and ones

1071
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: against the Panthers and ones against NFL Europe team or

1072
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: something I don't know.

1073
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: Doesn't get so I am going to place them and

1074
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: Raheem Morris, and maybe it's not necessarily his fault, but

1075
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna place him under the microscope here.

1076
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: I think this is a must win situation.

1077
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: You got embarrassed by the Panthers earlier in the season,

1078
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, if you had any designs of trying

1079
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: to salvage this season, this is a game that you

1080
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: absolutely have to have.

1081
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: You can't lose to a team that just lost to

1082
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: the Saints. That is embarrassing. Mark, what's up next here?

1083
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: Trap game tap boy? Did I cook with my trap

1084
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: game tap last week saying the Dolphins were gonna give

1085
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: the Bills all they could handle and then some. I

1086
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I actually picked them to beat them,

1087
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: but I thought it'd be a good game. It was

1088
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: for Miami fans. Eighth time was the charm as they

1089
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: broke a seven game losing streak to the Buffalo Bills,

1090
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: which had Mike McDaniel stunting on them bills fans outside

1091
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: of a bar as he drove by trolling. I know

1092
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: it was him. Ai could never reproduce that one of

1093
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: a kind a man I have nicknamed bad boy Rick

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00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: moranis AI could easily create a picture of a generic

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00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: white bald guy with a beard, though also known as

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00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: Brian Dable, who Mike McDaniel somehow outlived as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: with Dable getting the boot out of New York earlier

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00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: this week. I actually have sympathy for him though, despite

1099
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: stereotyping him a second ago. He was in a no

1100
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: win situation. If you don't have Jackson Dart run, you're

1101
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: going to lose the game and your job, because that's

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00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: what makes him dangerous. But if you do let Dart

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00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: run and pretend to be white Vic out there, which

1104
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: will make you more competitive, he'll eventually get injured. He's

1105
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: been in the tent four times now, and that will

1106
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: also make you lose your job. There's no way he

1107
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: could keep his job, but he at least took the

1108
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: root that bought him a little bit more time, putting

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00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback at risk. I actually think with a

1110
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: new interim coach with the Giants, and Mike Kafka this week.

1111
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: They might get a little boost no matter who is

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I'm not saying the Giants beat the

1113
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Packers at home with Jamis Winston it looks like but

1114
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: I could see it being somewhat competitive because the pack

1115
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: played bad teams and good teams close. They're currently third

1116
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: in the NFC North now behind the Bears. Those cheeseheads

1117
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: are looking moldy and stinky. I don't trust them even

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00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: on the road against the Giants. I think this could

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00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: be a tap game trap.

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Speaker 3: What are you going with here, Kevin Adam, We are

1121
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: in lockstep man for real. I actulutely have this as

1122
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: a trap game for the Green Bay Packers for many

1123
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Speaker 3: of the same reasons that you pointed to. One Well,

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Speaker 3: despite the Packer offense just being one of the biggest

1125
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: enigmas in the entire league, I'll give a credit and

1126
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: shout out to their defense fifth and total defense ninth

1127
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: and scoring defense. They've been doing their job. Go back

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Speaker 3: to that Monday night game against Philadelphia. Granted, the Eagles

1129
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: are not the greatest offensive unit on the planet, despite

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Speaker 3: the fact they have all that talent, but they played

1131
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: them extremely well. They helped that they did everything within

1132
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: their power to make sure they can that game. That

1133
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: loss was not on the Green Bay defense. So you mentioned,

1134
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: here comes a Giant team after another blown double digit lead,

1135
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: firing their head coach. Their starting quarterback is out with

1136
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: the concussion, their backup quarterback has now been benched for

1137
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: a journeyman who's more famous for all field quotes than

1138
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: the way that he plays on the field. All that

1139
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: being said, yes, this is a dangerous spot for Green Bay.

1140
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: We've seen a couple of times this year and I

1141
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: realized college football, for many intentsive purposes, is a completely

1142
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: different sport.

1143
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: Than the NFL. But we've seen the interim coach effect

1144
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: work positively.

1145
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: Penn State was knocking on the door if not for

1146
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: a spectacular catch last week of beating Indiana. Look what

1147
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: UCLA did going on a three game win streak after

1148
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: Deshaun Foster got fired. So I do think there's a

1149
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: little bit of an interim coach shock effect, whatever you

1150
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: want to call it, that can happen in situations like this.

1151
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: I know, I just took a shot at Jamis once

1152
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: in a second ago, but it's not like he can't play.

1153
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: We know he has a cannon for an arm. He

1154
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: can make every throw. Now who those throws are gonna

1155
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 3: go to as a wildcard? Sure, we never really know.

1156
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a thirty touchdown, thirty pick game. Very

1157
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: well might yeah, and I'm here for it.

1158
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: By the way.

1159
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: Uh, but you know, on paper, the Packers should dominate

1160
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: a Giants team that has all these things working against them.

1161
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: It includes the fact, to your point that a lot

1162
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 3: of their offensive success recently has been because Jackson Dark

1163
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: has run the ball, and that's gonna be something they're

1164
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: not gonna have in their disposal because Jameis Winston is

1165
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: you know, his feet are in concrete back there in

1166
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: the pocket.

1167
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: He can't move a lick. But we know game's not

1168
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: played on paper.

1169
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: Packers have been just inconsistent enough while the Giants might

1170
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 3: get enough of an interim boost like you were talking

1171
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: about for Mike Kafka to make green Bay sweat a

1172
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: lot in this in this in this matchup, and by

1173
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: the way, this is a bit of a trap game

1174
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: in a traditional sense because next week green Bay has

1175
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: to play against Minnesota. That's gonna be a huge game,

1176
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: a swing game in the NFC, in the NFC East standings.

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Speaker 1: It's a look past opponent with the Giants.

1178
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, nor excuse me, I'm with you.

1179
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: I think, uh, maybe you and I could partner up.

1180
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: We're sharing the same brain with our trap game tap.

1181
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: But we still got a lot to get to later

1182
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: in the hour, will go to beer Goggles game in

1183
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: our NFL six pack plus our old Troy epic fail.

1184
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: But Kevin, what's coming up next year?

1185
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: Coming up next? Our friend Ephraim Salam. You hear him

1186
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: on Fox Football Sunday with Mark Willard. He was a

1187
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: former offensive lineman in the NFL, played in the Super

1188
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 3: Bowl at the Atlanta Falcons.

1189
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna come on talk to us about how real

1190
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: the Patriots are or aren't.

1191
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: Talk about the Denver Broncos and the big litmus test

1192
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: they have this weekend against Kansas City, and many many

1193
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: more topics. Kevin figures Adam Allston fn A on FSR.

1194
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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Hi, what's the good word there? Fna Cottonna back with

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Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio, Kevin Figures and Adam Auslin

1201
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: with the iHeart Radio appic gaus strum of SSAR. I'm

1202
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: a thrown off a little bit by something pre said

1203
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: in my ear before he came back from break that

1204
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Speaker 2: I cannot repeat on the air.

1205
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Speaker 1: There, Adam, are you stop wilding out over there?

1206
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1207
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Speaker 2: We'll playing like the gin and juice bed underneath us

1208
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Speaker 2: right now.

1209
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Speaker 3: And she had she gave me the perfect name for

1210
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 3: a rap song just now before we were coming back unintentionally,

1211
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Speaker 3: by the way, but I can't say it on the air.

1212
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Speaker 3: every day, and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio

1218
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: as one of your presets in the iHeart app so

1219
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 3: it will always pop up at the top of your screen.

1220
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: Coming up in about twenty minutes or so, we will

1221
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: dive back into the NFL six Pack with fn A,

1222
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: but coming up right now, lots of big time storylines

1223
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: coming up this week in the NFL, and we have

1224
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: one of our Fox Sports Radio brothren and former NFL

1225
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: offensive lineman to talk about it with us.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Alan Dragan Dude, thank you, Donny, all our

1227
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: next guests. Went from being a San Diego State as

1228
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: tech to breaking out of that egg and becoming a

1229
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: dirty bird in the league and was the youngest player

1230
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: in NFL history to start a Super Bowl at the

1231
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: age of twenty two. And even though the Falcons may

1232
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: have lost by that many points to Denver, he went

1233
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: on to have a successful career that eclipsed a decade

1234
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: like he eclipsed an enveloped defensive lineman that tried to

1235
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: get by him, but nothing gets by him now as

1236
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: he is talking about the game here on Fox Sports

1237
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: Radio where you hear him weekends on Fox Football Sunday

1238
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: with Mark Willard, It's Ephrom Salam back with us here

1239
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: on FNA on FSR. E from thanks for doing this

1240
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: once again.

1241
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 4: I had no problem, man, It's always a play.

1242
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: Let's go back to Thursday Night. You've seen Drake May,

1243
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: You've seen the Pats. Are you putting them in that

1244
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: contender status with how good they've looked?

1245
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 5: Oh?

1246
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 4: Wow, I think you have to. I mean, any team

1247
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: is nine and two as far into the season, you

1248
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: can't ignore them. For me, it's been Mike Rabel. He's

1249
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: been the constant there. You come into a pro that

1250
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 4: has been fledgling since Tom Brady stepped away and won

1251
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl with another team. You give Rid a Belichick.

1252
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 4: You bring in Draw Mayo. That doesn't work for a year.

1253
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 4: You bring in someone who people presume would be under

1254
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 4: the same guide of the Belichick way because Mike played

1255
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: for and won three Super Bowls under Bill Belichick. But

1256
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: it's not. Mike has his own way of coaching, his

1257
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: own style, the way he relates to the players. I

1258
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: think he's one of the only former players and former

1259
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 4: assistants to ever actually have a winning record against Belichick.

1260
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Speaker 4: I believe. I'm not quite sure, but Drake may has

1261
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: been phenomenal. But I also want to give Mike his

1262
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: flowers because this is the first time he's actually had

1263
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 4: a quarterback, a top tier quarterback. Remember his days in

1264
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: Tennessee when he was the number one seed they had

1265
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: to buy and he had Ryan Tannehill at quarterbacks. So

1266
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: he's never had a top level you know, good, great

1267
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 4: almost can be possibly be elite quarterback, and we're getting

1268
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: a chance to see just what he can do with

1269
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: a talent like Drake.

1270
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Speaker 2: May Let's keep it in the AFC East theory.

1271
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Speaker 3: From just your assessment of the Buffalo Bills, the team

1272
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: that a lot of people thought was going to run

1273
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: away with the division to shoe in to be the

1274
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: top seed, and they've had some struggles this year.

1275
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: They got blown out.

1276
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: By Miami last week, and even in some of their wins,

1277
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: they haven't looked at impressive. The Saints hung with them

1278
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: for a bit, Miami hang hung with them on a

1279
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: Thursday night early in the season. What are you seeing

1280
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: as the big issues for Buffalo and do you think

1281
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: at this point in time there's still one of the

1282
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: favorites in the AFC despite their shaky performance so far

1283
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: this season.

1284
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: Well, I think as long as you have someone like

1285
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: Josh Allen that you have to consider them, you know,

1286
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: a favorite whenever you have an elite quarterback, and that's

1287
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: what Josh Allen is. He's an elite quarterback. You can't

1288
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: count them out. My problem with the Bills is they

1289
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: don't have enough weapons on the outside, and now having

1290
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: one of their primary weapons in Kinkaid out with the

1291
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: hamstring for this week. It's going to be tough slim

1292
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 4: for them. They put all the onus on Josh Allen

1293
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: to be the everything. It's not sair to him. The

1294
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: defense isn't what it was the last few years, so

1295
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: they're in a situation where this can really make or

1296
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: break their season coming down the stretch. It's perplexing because

1297
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: you would think, you're, like, Okay, well, they're a strong

1298
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: of course, a strong one of the lead teams when

1299
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 4: you have the reigning MVP. But at six and three

1300
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: and in the middle of the road, you're wondering why

1301
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: and why have they lost? The type of games this

1302
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 4: past week was that was a hand scratcher. Nobody understood

1303
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: how the Dolphins was able to put up thirty on

1304
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: them and they were only managed able to manage thirteen.

1305
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: We all thought the Dolphins were vying for the number

1306
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Speaker 4: one pick in the draft, and so they're bad losses. Now, granted,

1307
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Speaker 4: they played the Patriots team to a three point loss,

1308
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: they played an Atlanta Falcons team to a ten point loss,

1309
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 4: but that Dolphins loss really, you know, put a bad

1310
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 4: taste in people's mouth. And I know if they did

1311
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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay team. If they let Tampa come to town

1312
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Speaker 4: and beat them, then we got to really rethink the

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Speaker 4: shaking out of the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Former NFL offensive lineman now analyst here on Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio E From salam Is with us on f and

1316
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Speaker 1: A on FSR from talking about teams that they can't

1317
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Speaker 1: afford many slip ups. The Ravens are on a razors

1318
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Speaker 1: edge right now. Is Ravens FC backup? Though? In your mind?

1319
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: Can they steal the AFC North from Pittsburgh?

1320
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Speaker 4: Well, I definitely think they can steal it. When you

1321
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: look at the NFC North, which is once a dominant division,

1322
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 4: they're a game out right their game out of Pittsburgh.

1323
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is trying to figure out themselves. The one thing

1324
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Speaker 4: that that the Baltimore Ravens have that Pittsburgh doesn't have

1325
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 4: as Lamar Jackson at quarterback. Both defenses this year have

1326
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: been hit and missed. When they force a bunch of turnovers,

1327
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 4: then they play well above when they don't. So it's

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Speaker 4: one of those situations where if you look at Baltimore's schedule,

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Speaker 4: it's more conducive to them making a run than it

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Speaker 4: is for Pittsburgh make a run. Simply because you do

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Speaker 4: have Lamar Jackson. So they got the browns Necks, the Jets,

1332
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Speaker 4: the Bengals, Distillers, the Bengals, and thet they run into,

1333
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Speaker 4: you know what could be a huge pivotal game at

1334
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: the Patriots. But you got four weeks. You got four

1335
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 4: weeks where literally the Patriots to be a favorite in

1336
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 4: each one of these games. And when you take a

1337
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Speaker 4: look at that, now you're nine and four or nine

1338
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: to five. Excuse me, Now that's a different conversation heading

1339
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: into that Patriots game on December twenty. First, now, you

1340
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 4: put yourself in position to, you know, not only win

1341
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: the division, but solidify yourself as a playoff slot.

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Speaker 3: I fram salom joining us here FNA on FSR. Let's

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about this AJ Brown drama that's

1344
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: going on in Philadelphia. Yeah, popping off saying that he's

1345
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: not getting enough touches, and then he clarified it by saying, like,

1346
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 3: I'm just frustrated that the offense in general isn't pulling

1347
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: our weight. You played for a long time in the NFL.

1348
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: You play with some great receivers, but not guys who

1349
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: are typical for like popping off at the mouth. I

1350
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: don't think that. You know, Andre Johnson was one who

1351
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 3: was going to be very vocal about it not getting touches,

1352
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: mainly because he got a lot of touches. That's why

1353
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Famer. But just your thoughts on

1354
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: AJ Brown the comments that he made. One from a

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: player's perspective, how much of a distraction is that sort

1356
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: of thing in a locker room where you're constantly asked

1357
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: about that sort of thing?

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Speaker 2: And then two, do you think that he has a point?

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Speaker 3: And do you think that that could end up biting

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Speaker 3: the Eagles the fact that, yes, they're winning games, but

1361
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: their offense certainly has not been clicking on all cylinders

1362
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: like they have been in the past couple of years

1363
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Speaker 3: with Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, look, I'm not gonna be here. I'm not

1365
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Speaker 4: gonna be here. And taking anything away from AJ Round

1366
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Speaker 4: and his talent, we know he's talented, we know he's

1367
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: an All Pro caliber type of receiver. But the fact

1368
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Speaker 4: of the matter is this is a team game, and

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Speaker 4: he's on a winning team that just won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And so we're having a conversation about a Muscrontald player

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Speaker 4: on a seven and two team. Let that think in

1372
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's crazy to me that this is a

1373
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 4: team game and he's going on and on and on

1374
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: about what he wants to do, what he needs and

1375
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: what he tries to frame it in the word of

1376
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 4: they the offense. No, it's basically him because DeVonta Smith

1377
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Speaker 4: isn't complaining. He's their number one receiver. If anyone in

1378
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 4: on this offense should be complaining, they should be, say

1379
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Speaker 4: Kawon Barker, he's just not getting enough touches. You could

1380
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Speaker 4: come off of his historic season that we haven't seen

1381
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 4: for thirty plus years, and he's just doing whatever the

1382
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 4: team has. I would rather give Sae Kwan thirty touches

1383
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 4: than throw the ball to AJ Brown ten times in

1384
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Speaker 4: a game. And I promise you if the Eagles did that,

1385
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Speaker 4: they have a better record. If they were trying to

1386
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: force feed the ball to AJ Brown. There's a problem there.

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Speaker 4: Where there's smoke, this fire, it's not even smoke, it's

1388
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 4: a blaze. And that reading the book on the sidelines

1389
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Speaker 4: at all my thirteen years in the NFL, I've never

1390
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 4: ever ever seen a player do that are been on

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 4: the team, what that would be okay to do? Now

1392
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 4: you can spend it and tell you it's self help

1393
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 4: and whatever. That is. No, no, no, no, I knew

1394
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: what that was. That was a tantrum. That was a

1395
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 4: player not getting their way, having a tantrum. And now

1396
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Speaker 4: instead of Philly getting from under that after winning the

1397
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 4: Super Bowl and trading them off r after the rumbles

1398
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 4: earlier this year, trading him at the trade deadline, now

1399
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: he has all the leverage. Now what are they going

1400
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 4: to do? Sit them out what they've shown, they had

1401
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 4: their best offensive output do to go when he wasn't

1402
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: in the game. And that goes to show you just

1403
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 4: how much this team can do without him. Now, if

1404
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 4: he wants his stats and all of that, they should

1405
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 4: have stiff shipped them off somewhere to Jacksonville or Miami

1406
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 4: or whatever that was so he can be a primary target.

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Speaker 4: The team isn't built to pass first. That's just not

1408
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Speaker 4: what it is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, from let's stick with the nfcas here. How good

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Speaker 1: is Quinn Williams in your mind? And can the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: build a defense around him?

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Speaker 4: Now, Quinn Williams is a tremendous player. He's good. I

1413
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Speaker 4: can answer the first part, of course, he's good. He's

1414
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Speaker 4: a top tier talent. He is a problem in the middle.

1415
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: He can get after the quarterback, he can stop to run.

1416
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Speaker 4: Now the second part of that ken they build a

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Speaker 4: defense around him, difficult to do. You need more pieces

1418
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 4: around him. Now, if you were to tell me Michael

1419
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 4: Parsons was on the edge and he was coming and

1420
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Speaker 4: he was there, then that's a different conversation. That's not

1421
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: the case anymore. You did trade away your most valuable

1422
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 4: asset in Michael Parsons, and now just trying to, uh,

1423
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 4: you know, fill fill that void. And and you know

1424
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 4: you've got some pieces uh back in the trade. You

1425
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Speaker 4: got Quinn Williams, you got Kenny Clark. Those two guys

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Speaker 4: uh in the middle are are tremendous. But what are

1427
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Speaker 4: we doing on the outside? What do we do we

1428
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 4: need to be able to rush the pass? Is ja

1429
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Speaker 4: Davian Clowney? Is he gonna have a resurgence? I just

1430
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Speaker 4: don't know. So for me, can they build a defense

1431
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Speaker 4: around Quinton Williams? Uh? Yeah, not this year. I don't

1432
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Speaker 4: see it happening this year. I see if they want

1433
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Speaker 4: to add pieces in the offseason and and bolster that

1434
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Speaker 4: that front seven, uh in the draft. Then yes, but

1435
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Speaker 4: not this year.

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Speaker 3: Talk about one of your former teams, the team that

1437
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: doesn't get talked about a lot, despite the fact that

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Speaker 3: they're eight and two, the Denver Broncos, who their offense

1439
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: has been sort of up and down, kind of middle,

1440
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: their defense has been spectacular this year. They did win

1441
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl back in twenty fifteen in somewhat similar circumstances. Now,

1442
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if this defense is as good as

1443
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: that No Flies On defense from back then, But based

1444
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: on what you've seen for the Broncos this season, do

1445
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: you think with our offense being just sort of okay

1446
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: and their defense being what it is, they're good enough

1447
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 3: to be a championship contender at this point.

1448
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 4: I'm a cheap right here on this one. All Right,

1449
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 4: we'll figure out just to the Denver Broncos are and

1450
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 4: if they compete and if they can compete at that

1451
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 4: level after this weekend against the Chiefs, that is going

1452
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 4: to be their litness to Now the Chiefs aren't, they

1453
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 4: don't have the record that they've had, and the the

1454
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: Broncos are seemingly running away with this division, Chiefs being

1455
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 4: in third. This will let you know this weekend. We'll

1456
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 4: be able to answer this question on Monday, because this

1457
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 4: is a huge test now everything they've done. You know,

1458
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 4: they lost two good games, two good team excuse me,

1459
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 4: playoff caliber teams and the Coats and the Chargers, and

1460
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 4: they lost by one point when they lost by four

1461
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: points collectively in both of those games. Now, offensively, this

1462
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 4: last week against the Raiders something to be desired. But

1463
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: that's the Raiders Broncos games. It doesn't matter how good

1464
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 4: one team is or the other. I've been a part

1465
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 4: of that rivalry. I know what that is. But you know,

1466
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 4: you go from the Cowboys scoring forty four against the

1467
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 4: Cowboys to only eighteen against the Texans to only ten

1468
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 4: against the Raiders. Offensively, they're going to need to put

1469
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 4: points on the board, not field goals when you go

1470
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: against the team like the Kansas City Chiefs. And I

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Speaker 4: think this will be the weekend when we can champion

1472
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Speaker 4: them or say hey, maybe they're not ready yet.

1473
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Speaker 2: Heep.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to find out a lot about the

1475
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: NFC West this weekends. Where do you put the Hawks

1476
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: and Rams right now? And how much are you looking

1477
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: forward to that showdown coming up on Sunday.

1478
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 4: It's one of those surprises for me right now. We

1479
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 4: we we we thought the Rams would be what they were,

1480
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:16,879
Speaker 4: you know McVay and Stafford Pukah, But Seattle and Sam Donald,

1481
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 4: I'm extremely impressed. I'm extremely impressed with how they're playing.

1482
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: This is the tail of the tape. This is the

1483
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 4: heavyweight fight in that in that division. This is who's

1484
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 4: going to start separating themselves in that division. And I

1485
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 4: can't wait. I can't wait. Are the Rams gonna be

1486
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 4: able to move up and down the field like they've

1487
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 4: been Are Seattle going to you know, their their defense

1488
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: is playing so much better, uh this year than in

1489
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 4: previous years. And having you know, Sam Donald there, I

1490
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: think it's a shock and a surprise to everybody. We

1491
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: just we didn't know if that what he did last

1492
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: year a minut soda and the fourteen and three, I

1493
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 4: believe we didn't know if that was an advarition. But

1494
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 4: he's playing at an MVP level. They can put up

1495
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 4: points on the board in their defense, hold steady. This

1496
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 4: is much CTV for me, This is the biggest game

1497
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 4: of the weekend because this is the game where one

1498
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 4: team is going to assert their dominance in this division.

1499
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 3: Last one for me, if from Salam joining us here

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: on FNA on FSR Fox Football Saturday, Let's talk about

1501
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 3: the New York Giants. They fire head coach Brian day

1502
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: Bolt and now my Kafka steps in as the instrum.

1503
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: And of course people are starting to connect dots because

1504
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick was a defensive coordinator, there has a relationship

1505
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: with Lamara family, and things have not gone well at

1506
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 3: North Carolina, although they're playing better now these last few weeks.

1507
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 3: Do you think one that Bill Belichick is a legitimate

1508
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 3: candidate for the New York Giants? And then two, considering

1509
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 3: how his tenure ended with the Patriots and the fact

1510
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 3: that he only got one interview after his Patriots tenure

1511
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 3: in the NFL that was with the Falcons, that he

1512
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: would act actually be a good hire for New York

1513
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: at this point.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, anything's possible. You know, relationships open up doors.

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Speaker 4: So if he has a relationship with Jamorrow family, uh,

1516
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 4: that could open up any door and and and allow

1517
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 4: him to walk the door. I think that should happen.

1518
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 4: I don't I like Jackson Darky, I like his energy,

1519
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: I like neighbors when he comes back. I like scatable,

1520
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 4: I really like scatable. I loved him at ASU, loved

1521
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: watching him, watch him do every single thing. Couldn't then

1522
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 4: understand why he was drafted so late. I knew he

1523
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 4: was a caliber player that people got to see when

1524
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 4: he was playing before he got injured. I think Jackson

1525
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 4: Dark brings a different type of energy. And we've seen

1526
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, outside of Tom Brady, kind of destroy a

1527
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 4: young talented quarterback. We saw him do it with uh

1528
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 4: Mac Jones. Mac Jones is in San Francisco, thriving now

1529
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 4: as a backup but winning games. But Bill Belichick, for

1530
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 4: whatever reason, wanted to play games, wanted to have a

1531
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator calling offensive plays for the first time ever.

1532
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: Things like that Jackson Dart and the New York Giants

1533
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 4: don't need. They don't need experimental things, they don't need ego.

1534
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 4: They need somebody to come in be able to really

1535
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 4: resonate with Jackson Dart because he is the face of

1536
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 4: the franchise for them for the next you know, ten

1537
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 4: twelve years.

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Speaker 1: We like you from Slam. Check him out with Mark

1539
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: Willard on Fox Football Sunday every weekend, and he from

1540
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: thanks for coming back here on f and A on

1541
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

1542
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 4: Absolutely anytime you know.

1543
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: And he brought up a good point about Bill Belichick

1544
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 3: really getting cute towards the end of New England. But

1545
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia calling plays and you know, and Joe Judge

1546
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: and all and all these other guys and all the

1547
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: it's it's really nice you.

1548
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,919
Speaker 1: Met cute like him on the beach with his girlfriend

1549
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson.

1550
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 3: Well, there's that it's a different level of two right there,

1551
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 3: if not creepy. Uh, that guys can come to a

1552
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 3: certain degree kind of lose their touch and lose their edge.

1553
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 3: And you talked about the fact that he didn't have

1554
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 3: his edge anymore in North Carolina because he's with Jordan Hudson.

1555
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: They at the reality show that now is no longer

1556
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: a thing that they are trademarking. What was it, Sugardeady

1557
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: or whatever that was something like.

1558
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: That Women Weekend playbooks.

1559
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it.

1560
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: For the guy, he's turned into the total antithesis of

1561
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: everything he stood for when he was with the Patriots,

1562
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: as far as do your job, keep the main thing.

1563
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: The main thing.

1564
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 4: Now.

1565
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: Granted again, North Carolina's won the last two games, and

1566
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: who knows how this season ends up playing out, and

1567
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: maybe North Carolina will end up being better for hiring

1568
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 3: him in the end.

1569
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: But I do agree with Ephraim that I don't.

1570
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: I think the NFL and I think the NFL kind

1571
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 3: of told him what his standing was when he was

1572
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: available and nobody decided to hire him last hiring cycle.

1573
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he dipped his toe in the water and it

1574
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: was cold. I'll say free Hey, we're not looking forward

1575
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: to bringing him back to an NFL team. We'll see

1576
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: if that changes coming up next change here, it's the

1577
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: NFL six pack. You know how we do it. We

1578
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: got our beer goggles game and our old Troy epic fail.

1579
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: This is FNA on FSR.

1580
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:15,719
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1581
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,799
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1582
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,720
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1583
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1584
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1585
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: games for three hours right up until kickoff, for all

1586
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,120
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1587
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Speaker 3: bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on

1589
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:40,520
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1590
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: Radio and on the iHeartRadio app.

1591
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the NFL six pack. Mark, what's

1592
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: up next? Beer goggles?

1593
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 4: Kay?

1594
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin. As I put my beer goggles on,

1595
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: that Monday night monstrosity between the Cowboys and Raiders quickly

1596
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: turns into me hearing Hey Williams Junior singing, Oh my

1597
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: righty friends are here on Monday night.

1598
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 2: I love it.

1599
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we take those political stances, they gotten fired.

1600
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm drunker than Pete Carroll postgame talking about how competitive

1601
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: the Raiders were on Thursday night against the Broncos.

1602
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: That's what it's gotten to.

1603
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: I know, drinking on the job is mandatory if you're

1604
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Raiders. But he was way

1605
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: too excited because they could have almost tied with Denver.

1606
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: He must have thought tie goes to not the runner,

1607
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: but the Raiders, like Roger Goodell was going to give

1608
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: them a mercy win just for tying against the Denver Broncos.

1609
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: That's how positive Pete's sounded post game.

1610
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 2: I would have taken it.

1611
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: Adam has he lowered win forever to tie forever. That's

1612
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: his new motto. He's really changed the Raiders. Forget just win, baby,

1613
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: just tie baby, just compete and not completely embarrass yourself

1614
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 1: in a primetime game. Baby.

1615
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 3: I feel like that's been the standard for like thirty years.

1616
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: Though Adam to to be fair, Okay, just that's not embarrassing.

1617
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,879
Speaker 1: Say it out loud, though, he said after the loss,

1618
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: quote the fight is in this dog now, no doubt

1619
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: about it. I'm saying the snile is in the old

1620
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: man now, no doubt about it.

1621
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 4: No.

1622
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: Look, look, look, who am I to question a national

1623
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: championship winner, a Super Bowl winning coach?

1624
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: But I don't know you're doing it.

1625
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 1: Look, maybe they have turned a corner. I don't know. Maybe,

1626
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: Pete Wright, if your offense is able to get seven

1627
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: points against Denver and that defense like they did, that

1628
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: should equate to thirty points against the Dallas Cowboys and

1629
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: their defense on Monday night. That's how it works.

1630
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: Something.

1631
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: I think it could be a fun game at least

1632
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: when I put my beer goggles on, maybe just because

1633
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: it's Monday night football and I want it to be competitive. Please,

1634
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: it's the only game on What do you got here, Kevin?

1635
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm actually going with Dan Quinn and the Commanders and

1636
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 3: Madrid against the Dolphins. So I will say congratulations first

1637
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 3: to Madrid. This is the final game of the International

1638
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: Series for the NFL and they get the dregs of

1639
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: the league with two three and seven teams going at it.

1640
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 3: So now I will say, the funny thing is you

1641
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: have through two three and seven teams, but they're both

1642
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: going in opposite directions. Washington completely fallen off after going

1643
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 3: to the NFC Championship game last year, Jayden and Daniels

1644
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: dealing with injuries, so obviously they're gonna take a bit

1645
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 3: of a step back.

1646
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 2: That's to be expected.

1647
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: I will say, by the way, dan Quinn did commit

1648
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 3: complete coaching malpractice by leaving him in that blowout situations,

1649
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: so we can injure as Oh but but one of

1650
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 3: the big fears for people with Daniels coming out of

1651
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 3: LSU was the fact that he was a little slighter frame,

1652
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 3: and people wonder how that would translate into the NFL

1653
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: and that he might end up having some injury issues.

1654
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: In a macroview, for Washington, they need to figure out

1655
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 3: a better way to keep him well protected and be

1656
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 3: selective in how they use him in the run game.

1657
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: There's been successful running quarterbacks.

1658
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson ran for nine hundred plus yards in one

1659
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 3: season and didn't miss a single game because he knew

1660
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 3: how to slide.

1661
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,440
Speaker 2: He had a baseball background.

1662
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson had rush for over a thousand yards multiple

1663
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 3: times in his career, but he's also missed five six

1664
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: games at a time because he continues to get banged up.

1665
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: But I digress washington downward trajectory. They've lost five in

1666
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 3: a row, four have been by double digits. Terry McLaurin

1667
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: can't get on the field, can't stay on the field.

1668
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: Deebo is a shell up and former self, and the

1669
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: defense is being led by a geriatric ward namely Bobby

1670
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 3: Wagner and Von Miller.

1671
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: By the way, did you know this?

1672
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 3: So they've played ten games, Bobby and Vaughn have played

1673
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 3: all ten of them. They've had so many injuries up

1674
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: and down their roster, and they have basically the two

1675
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: old guys, the two future Hall of famers carrying the

1676
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: load on defense.

1677
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: They're the ones that have to hold this thing together.

1678
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: Ye hence to three and seven record. And that's no

1679
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 3: disrespect to those two guys. It's just not the same anymore.

1680
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 3: So you juxtaposed their situation with the Dolphins, who, let's

1681
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: make no qualms about it, they sucked too, but they

1682
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 3: seem to be trending in a bit of a different direction,

1683
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 3: at least slightly up, maybe like a little acute angle

1684
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 3: upwards or.

1685
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: Something like that.

1686
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: Hey, they dominated the Bills.

1687
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 3: They did two of the last three games they've won.

1688
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 3: They laid the will to Josh Allen and the Bills.

1689
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: They won't make the playoffs, but if they continue with

1690
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: this sort of effort, Mike McDaniel, he's probably gonna be safe.

1691
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 2: Anyway. They decided to fire Chris.

1692
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 3: Greer a couple a couple of weeks ago and keep

1693
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 3: him on, And it seems like, based on what you're

1694
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: reading and hearing out of Stephen Ross, he seems to

1695
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: think their issues are more personnel based than coaching based.

1696
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: I think think that. I agree.

1697
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both, but I

1698
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 3: think it's mostly on personnel. Mike McDaniel was had the

1699
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 3: background as a run game coordinator, had great running games

1700
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: before when he was in San Francisco. Started out really

1701
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: well with the Dolphins, and their offensive line just isn't

1702
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: very good now. Last week, Davon e Chan had one

1703
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: of his best games of the season, and I think

1704
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 3: he can continue to roll coming up this weekend against Washington.

1705
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 3: And I think the Commanders will also have a good

1706
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: effort this weekend too, So I think this game on paper,

1707
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: it looks like an ugly matchup between two three and

1708
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 3: seven teams, but at the end result I think could.

1709
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: Be a pretty entertaining one.

1710
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: If you want to wake up early and catch the

1711
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,520
Speaker 3: last International Series game on Sunday.

1712
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: Morning, well, until you got to that last part, I

1713
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: was in Kevin, But I'm not waking up earlier for

1714
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Commanders in Madrid.

1715
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, not an appointment viewing for you.

1716
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: It's not good enough for me. I'm sorry. I I

1717
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: love Mike McDaniel. I'm interested to see what happens, but

1718
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to catch the all twenty two highlights

1719
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: and get every play in that way. No, I do

1720
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of wonder about the Commanders and how bad it's

1721
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 1: gonna get to end this season. Honestly, is dan Quinn

1722
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: going to end up getting fired? You're removed from being

1723
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: the hottest team.

1724
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think was gonna mix with all the

1725
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: injuries that they that he's had.

1726
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get at least a mulligan when

1727
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 3: it comes to that. We have more NFL six pack

1728
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 3: coming up. On the other side fn A on FSR.

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01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: That's right, the final hour of Fox Football Saturday with

1731
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: fn A on FSR. Hit us up on the socials

1732
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 3: at KFIG one and that follow Adam a coming up

1733
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 3: in this hour we will talk thank you. Well, you

1734
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 3: know what it is around that time of year, isn't.

1735
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: It, Adam?

1736
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, tis the season for home alone callbacks because.

1737
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 3: We skip right over Thanksgiving doesn't even count as a

1738
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 3: holiday anymore, so why is it even here? We just

1739
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: go straight from October, straight from Halloween to Christmas. I

1740
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: saw Christmas decorations and home depot on like October twenty fourth.

1741
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not hello we doing. And the Christmas music

1742
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: is already getting overwhelming.

1743
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

1744
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: It creeps me out, It bothers me. Let's stick with

1745
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: Halloween for another month.

1746
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: Jeh, yeah, why not?

1747
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 3: So coming up later this hour, we'll have our official

1748
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: picks with two on two off. We'll also go around

1749
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: the college football world a lot of big pivotal matchups

1750
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: with playoff implications. Playoff seatings abound coming up in this

1751
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: weekend slate of college football. But first we got to

1752
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: get back into the NFL six pack.

1753
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 4: Here.

1754
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 2: What do we have there? Mark?

1755
01:21:48,560 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 7: Oh my god, Oh my god.

1756
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh Que, I'm so sorry. All right, I'll go with

1757
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: my old Troy epic fail. Bree thought she was safe.

1758
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, just when you think it's safe to go

1759
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: back in the water. My epic fail goes to the Saints. No,

1760
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say they're losing the bye week. Haha,

1761
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm not that lame. I'm saying it's an epic fail

1762
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: for having a bye week after finally getting a win.

1763
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: The Saints are killing their only chance at gaining momentum.

1764
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: When you haven't won two games in a row in

1765
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: a year, you got to ride the wave of momentum.

1766
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: You go to the league offices and you demand a

1767
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: game gets scheduled for you this week. When your team

1768
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: as bad as the Saints and you get a week off,

1769
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: you may forget how to play football completely. It's not

1770
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: like riding a bike for them, It's like riding a

1771
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: roller coaster upside down in reverse while solving a twelve

1772
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: sided Rubik's cube. For them, just practicing against themselves during

1773
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: a bye week will only make them worse because this

1774
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: is the opposite of iron sharpening iron. It's more like

1775
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,440
Speaker 1: two rusty butter knives doling themselves.

1776
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 3: They should do like what a coastal Carolina be why

1777
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: you did during the COVID year, everybody was canceling games

1778
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 3: left and right, and they're like, you want to play,

1779
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 3: we want to play. They threw a game together in

1780
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: like four days and just decided to play each other.

1781
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: The Saints should find somebody, not the Colts, who I

1782
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: think are also off this week because they would kick

1783
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,520
Speaker 1: their asso.

1784
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: Hey play LSU. That game might be a toss up.

1785
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: It would be I don't know if you want Head

1786
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: coach Kellen Moore, by the way, with more time on

1787
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: his hands since he doesn't need a game plan for

1788
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: this week. He's already dohier and softer than what came

1789
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: out on my backside after I ate a jar Plato

1790
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: as a kid, I was I hear his playbook is

1791
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: made out of the fruit roll ups where you could

1792
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: punch out the designs like he can turn a pass

1793
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: play into a run play. With one bite. See Bury,

1794
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: You may have thought it was sweet beat my Panthers

1795
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: last week, but that's actually going to lead to a

1796
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: bigger disappointment. After we give the Falcons all the confidence

1797
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: in the world, after they beat us, and then they

1798
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: see you after the bye, they'll be super charged and

1799
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: ready to hit a cloud stripe limit breaker against you.

1800
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: From Final Fantasy seven. It's about the long game, and

1801
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be a long year for them. Saints.

1802
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: Don't get all high and mighty. Don't get too excited

1803
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: just because you beat the Panthers. All right, I'm gonna

1804
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: take you down a notch.

1805
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 2: Just don't know why. Kelly Moore, I say it's like

1806
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 2: takes trays there.

1807
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,919
Speaker 1: Kevin, he's enjoyer than Zach Braff.

1808
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: Is he enjoying a little bit too much of the

1809
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 2: beignets down there? When's the last what's going.

1810
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: On people talk about? You know, I can't see my

1811
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: toes anymore. I'm so fat. When's the last time he's

1812
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: seen his cheek bones?

1813
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 4: Like?

1814
01:24:55,320 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: He's so dowey. I've never seen anything like it. I'd

1815
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: be a definition of a skinny, fat guy, like you

1816
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: look that up. It is Kellen Moore honestly that our

1817
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: bassay hey Don McClain said that once about him. I

1818
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't say it.

1819
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 3: All Right, Well, I'm gonna move on to my potential

1820
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: epic fail of the week, and I'm gonna go to

1821
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 3: a team that we talked about with Ephram Slam a

1822
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 3: little bit ago, and that's the Denver Broncos going against

1823
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 3: Kansas City. We talked a lot about the Broncos over

1824
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 3: this past month and a half. Adam, if I remember correctly,

1825
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 3: last week, you even asked me whether I was gonna

1826
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: put their offense under the microscope, and I said, I've

1827
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 3: already done it like four times this season. I can't

1828
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: put them under the microscope anymore.

1829
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: That didn't happen.

1830
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 3: If you look at their stats offensively, they aren't necessarily bad.

1831
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: They're just kind of average.

1832
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 3: Thirteenth in total offense, eighteenth and passing offense ninth, running

1833
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: the ball, which is great if you're in the top ten,

1834
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: seventeenth in scoring, so again, just kind of average everywhere

1835
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: where they aren't average, And the biggest reason why they

1836
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 3: are eight and two, like we talked about with Ephraim,

1837
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: is the fact that their defense has been dominating teams

1838
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: left and right. They're not quite putting up numbers that

1839
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: rival the two thousand Baltimore Ravens or that no Flies

1840
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 3: on defense that we talked about from twenty fifteen. So

1841
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,480
Speaker 3: I guess the question is are they good enough defensively

1842
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: to be able to win a Super Bowl with a

1843
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 3: middling offense? And I agree one thousand percent with what

1844
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 3: Ephraim told us that this will be a good litman

1845
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: test for them this weekend against this rejuvenated Kansas City offense.

1846
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,520
Speaker 3: Save for their last game against Buffalo, where they uncharacteristically

1847
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 3: were terrible on third down, Casey has scored at least

1848
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 3: twenty eight points in every game they've played in since

1849
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: Week three. Wow, and they won. In Week three, they

1850
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 3: beat the Giants twenty two to nine. They just didn't

1851
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 3: explode offensively for more than twenty eight points. So to

1852
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: Diff's credit, I'll say this, they did shut down and

1853
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: dominate a cowboy offense that was ranked number one in the.

1854
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: League at the time Alizon Prell.

1855
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So a Bronco fan would say, obviously we can

1856
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: do the same thing in Kansas City. With all due

1857
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: respect to Dak Prescott, who's a really good player. Answer

1858
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer, who I was not a big fan of

1859
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 3: as a head coaching higher, but offensively at the very least,

1860
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 3: Dallas has been phenomenal. Talk talk about Patrick Mahomes and

1861
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: Andy Reid here. They have all their weapons back, they're healthy. Simmons,

1862
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 3: their top first round pick at left tackle, is going

1863
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 3: to be back in the mix, So they're going to

1864
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: get bolstered on the offensive line here.

1865
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: This is a completely different beast that you're facing.

1866
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 3: So look, it's rare that a team looks as bad

1867
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 3: as Denver did last Thursday against the Raiders. You know,

1868
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: we can acknowledge that it's rare that you look that

1869
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 3: bad and then you come back.

1870
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: The following week. We can continue to look poor.

1871
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: But I do think there's a potential to them getting

1872
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 3: run off the field by Kansas City, who has found

1873
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 3: a little bit of momentum. I feel that way mainly

1874
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 3: because I just don't know what I'm going to get

1875
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 3: on that Bronco offense from a week to week basis.

1876
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: And even though Kansas City's defense has shown a little

1877
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: bit of slippage from last year, there's still sixth and

1878
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: yards and fourth and scoring not far off from where

1879
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: Denver's defense is so the defensive production from both teams

1880
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: are actually pretty comparable at this point in time, not

1881
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: to mention the stat that I'm sure most Dieheart fans

1882
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: are tired of hearing at this point in time. But

1883
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: Andy Reid coming off of a bye twenty two and four.

1884
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: Wow.

1885
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 3: So do not be surprised if you look up at

1886
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 3: the scoreboard on Sunday after at the end of the

1887
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 3: game and see that the Evil Empire in Red, with

1888
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift leading the charge, picks up a thirteen point victory.

1889
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, your argument and the way you

1890
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: laid it out here may make me change one of

1891
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: my two on two off picks. Okay, that was peruasive.

1892
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

1893
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I might have to mark what's up next under the microscope.

1894
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: I got the Pittsburgh Steelers under the microscope, as it

1895
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: looks like they're about to blow a twenty eight to

1896
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: three lead or a three to one lead you could

1897
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: say in the AFC North Division, since at one point

1898
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: they were four and one and the Ravens were one

1899
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: and five.

1900
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 4: Yep.

1901
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: But like I tried to tell y' all, the Ravens

1902
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: were fine and had them right where they wanted them,

1903
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: and the Steelers they're asking Baltimore to steal the division

1904
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: from them. After a rough outing against the Chargers where

1905
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers didn't just look his age, he looked like

1906
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: he had his helmet on backwards with some of those throws,

1907
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: like a self administered darkness rich on the field. Nobody

1908
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,440
Speaker 1: likes to talk about it, but I've noticed my eyesight

1909
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: has gotten worse with age. He might want to make

1910
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 1: a trip to lens crafters himself, if he even believes

1911
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: in glasses. He looked like he was playing with two

1912
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: glass eyes out there. Now they get the Bengals at

1913
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: home this week, who they've already lost to in the

1914
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Icy Hot Bowl. I'm calling this one the colonoscopy screening

1915
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: showdown between him and Joe Flacco, and it is under

1916
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: the microscope, that's the segment here, and like how you

1917
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: feel that scope? They are feeling the ravens close behind them, Probate.

1918
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: He's taking this segment in the direction that I think

1919
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: things going into and out of orifices that I think

1920
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 3: people were just not expecting to hear about. Well, this

1921
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 3: show tonight's last this morning.

1922
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: It's for a good cause November is about reminding us

1923
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: of men's health. So maybe consult your doctor. If you're

1924
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: as old as Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco. I've had

1925
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: and oscopes before. It's nothing, light work. You could do it,

1926
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: and that game should remind you to get one. That's

1927
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: what I'm going with from under the microscope? What do

1928
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: you got, Kevin?

1929
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 3: I am going to go with Caleb Williams versus the

1930
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 3: Vikings this weekend. I've been saying it for a month.

1931
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is steadily improving. Yeah, completion percentage could be better, Yes,

1932
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 3: turnovers are down, getting sacked significantly less than he was

1933
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 3: last season, and as a result, he's making more plays

1934
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 3: and is a key reason why the Bears have won

1935
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 3: six of their last seven games. Considered by the way

1936
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: they're doing this with one of the worst scoring defenses

1937
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 3: in the entire league. They allow over twenty seven points

1938
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 3: a game, which means there's even more pressure on the

1939
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: Bears offense to score, and.

1940
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 2: They have answered the bell.

1941
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 3: Now look at Caleb Williams individual stats again, they don't

1942
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: blow you away. Sixty percent completion percentage, man, thirteen touchdowns,

1943
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 3: mart four interceptions, quarterback rating, of ninety two.

1944
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: Not great now horrible, it'd be great in nineteen nineteen.

1945
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, not the dregs of the league. He's not Anthony

1946
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 3: Richardson out there, but he's not Drake may either. But

1947
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 3: you have to also consider that Ben Johnson essentially had

1948
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 3: to tear this guy down completely and rebuild him bigger, stronger, faster.

1949
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: He took out the nail Paul's remover on.

1950
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 3: Him, I mean basically, so the turnaround was not gonna

1951
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 3: happen overnight. By the way, I will say too about

1952
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: this when it comes to Ben Johnson. He gets lauded

1953
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 3: with the job that he did with Jared Golf and

1954
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 3: the Lions, but let's not forget that Detroit's bread and

1955
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 3: butter offensively is the run game with Jami Gibbson and Montgomery.

1956
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 1: Is that Sonic and Knuckles?

1957
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean kind of basically.

1958
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1959
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Isn't that what they call themselves?

1960
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, I hadn't heard that. I don't know if

1961
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: they do. That's amazing and I want that.

1962
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: T shirt somebody on the I don't know if it's

1963
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: the receivers of the running backs, but they got a

1964
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: Sonic and Knuckles type of nickname going on like this.

1965
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: This is right up our alley.

1966
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm off for that. Let's go. I'll absolutely be an

1967
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: unofficial Detroit Lion fan at that point.

1968
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why I'm leaving the Panthers for the

1969
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Lions and Sonic and Knuckles.

1970
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 2: That's the only reason why.

1971
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 4: I think.

1972
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 2: There's a laundry list of other ones I can give

1973
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 2: you if you want.

1974
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: There's one.

1975
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: They lost to the Saints, but their bread and butter,

1976
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: like I mentioned, is the game.

1977
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 3: And if you glance up at this year's stats, you

1978
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 3: realize Chicago is second in the league in rushing.

1979
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: Wait a second, yeah, that's Chicago football right there.

1980
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 2: It absolutely is.

1981
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 3: And by the way, Deandres Swift, uh I Monong guy

1982
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 3: are good, but neither of those guys who are necessarily

1983
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 3: gonna blow you away. But I always thought that it

1984
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 3: was sort of a transition season for Caleb Williams, though,

1985
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 3: show some progress, be a little more boring and a

1986
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 3: lot less, you know, running around with their chicken with

1987
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 3: the head cut off and trying to make the big play,

1988
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 3: make plays on schedule, And so far he's done that,

1989
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 3: so now he'll get a chance to see how he

1990
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: performs in the rematch. From their opening day game of

1991
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 3: the year, when JJ McCarthy let the Vikings to that

1992
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 3: giant comeback victory and Caleb's overseeing a blown fourth quarter lead.

1993
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: I want to place Williams under the microscope and see

1994
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 3: how he performs hostile environment on the road, big road

1995
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: environment in Minnesota, a team that's already beaten him. He's

1996
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 3: already seen once this season, a really good defense led

1997
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 3: by one of the best coordinators in the entire sport.

1998
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 3: If Caleb can play well in a road game in

1999
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 3: division during a playoff race, I think it'll go a

2000
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 3: long way and reviving his image and turning people like

2001
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 3: Adam's perception around to say maybe he can be a

2002
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 3: viable quarterback and be the savior to Mark's Chicago Bears

2003
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 3: franchise at the quarterback position.

2004
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Look, unless he does it against the eighty five Bears defense,

2005
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 1: I just don't care.

2006
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, no, no.

2007
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if those guys are playing now, one

2008
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 3: thousand percent, I will take Caleb Williams against the eighty

2009
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 3: five Bears defense today.

2010
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: Suit him up, let's go fair enough. He has played

2011
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,440
Speaker 1: better the last few weeks. I gotta own that total ownership.

2012
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Total ownership by me takes a big man, all right, Mark,

2013
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: what have we got next redemption round? My redemption round

2014
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: last week was for the Lions, who performed pretty pretty

2015
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: well i'd say in DC against the Commanders. Was that

2016
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. See, that's why I need this

2017
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: Raiders Cowboys Monday An football game to be good because

2018
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: our last one sucked. It was awful. This week though,

2019
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: in my redemption round, I got somebody redeeming themselves in

2020
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 1: the NFC West between the forty nine Ers and Cardinals

2021
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 1: in Arizona, as they both lost two NFC West teams

2022
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: last week and now they get to fight it out

2023
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: for third place in the division. But it's a division

2024
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: likely getting three teams in the playoffs unless ones the

2025
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals and they're not allowed in. But I think they're

2026
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: likely to lose to San Francisco this week. But I

2027
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: think it could be a good game between those two

2028
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: teams that desperately need to redeem themselves, improve they belong

2029
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: and maybe the best division in football. I know this fluctuates,

2030
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: but I think it is. I think it is the

2031
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: NFC West right now. With the Seahawks and Rams being

2032
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,879
Speaker 1: this good, they're better at the top of their division

2033
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 1: than the two teams at the top of the NFC

2034
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: North and the two teams at the top of the

2035
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:49,440
Speaker 1: AFC West right now. I think that's accurate in AFC

2036
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: East too. They're good passing bills. But I don't see

2037
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: two teams as complete and playing as well as the

2038
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: Rams and the Seahawk anywhere else right now. And by

2039
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: the way, they play each other on Sunday, that is

2040
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 1: the game. Why didn't they flex that into Sunday end football.

2041
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if the flex scheduling has officially begun yet,

2042
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 3: but if not, they need to move that up to

2043
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 3: earlier in the season. There's no reason why this should

2044
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 3: be a one oh five Pacific time kickoff. Yeah, I

2045
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 3: like he's put it into the one twenty five like

2046
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 3: major network TV window where the majority of the country

2047
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:24,919
Speaker 3: would see it.

2048
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Start flexing in week three or something like. We can

2049
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: figure enough out by then. We do it all the

2050
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: time in the NFL six pack. We know who the

2051
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: frauds are. The phonies, your big bat phonies. All right,

2052
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: here's your redemption round.

2053
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 3: Kevin Mine is going to the Dallas Cowboys, coming off

2054
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 3: of a couple of losses and a bye They will

2055
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 3: take on the Raiders on Monday Night, which you've talked

2056
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 3: alluded to a couple of times on the show tonight already,

2057
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 3: because we already know the season narrative. Offense is great

2058
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 3: defense can't stop any body. They've yet to win back

2059
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 3: to back games at any point in this season. Now

2060
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 3: the dynamic has changed at least a little bit. You

2061
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,799
Speaker 3: trade for Logan Wilson, will see if he has anything

2062
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 3: left in the tank, and most importantly, you get the

2063
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 3: debut of Quinton Williams on that defensive front. So now

2064
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 3: you get a chance to see how big of an

2065
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 3: impact these guys can actually make against a pretty anemic

2066
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 3: Greater offense that has just two wins in of allst

2067
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 3: three games in a row.

2068
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Is Logan Wilson already their best linebacker? Is that true?

2069
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 4: No?

2070
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: Honestly, a guy who hasn't played yet this year tomorrow

2071
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 3: on Overshown, who was a rookie last year, is a

2072
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 3: really really good player. He's gonna make his season debut

2073
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 3: this week too. That should not be understated. Overshown is

2074
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 3: a really really good player that a lot of people

2075
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: don't know about. He'll make a big impact on that defense,

2076
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 3: for sure. I will say one thing that can happen

2077
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 3: for Dallas, even in a winning effort, they cannot afford

2078
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 3: to have this Raider offense have success.

2079
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 2: If this turns into.

2080
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,759
Speaker 3: Like a thirty four to thirty one type of situation,

2081
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 3: even in Dallas victory, those questions about the Dallas defense

2082
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: are still going to continue to linger. Iphrom Totas earlier

2083
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 3: on the show, Quinn Williams not gonna be some sort

2084
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 3: of magic eluxor that that's gonna just completely change the

2085
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 3: fortunes of the Dallas defense. But I do think at

2086
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 3: the very least he should have a positive impact. He

2087
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 3: help them go from being twenty eighth against the run

2088
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 3: to twentieth or something. An incrementual improvement there alone could

2089
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 3: mean the difference between having a couple of more wins

2090
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 3: on your ledger by the end of the season, and

2091
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 3: if you have two or three more wins in your

2092
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 3: back in your back pocket, that can help propel you

2093
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 3: to a playoff berth one. But depending on how things

2094
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: end up shaking out. So this coming Monday should be

2095
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 3: the ultimate redemption for Dallas, no pun intended, but the

2096
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 3: stars are aligning for a big game for them. They

2097
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 3: lost two games in a row, coming off of a bye,

2098
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 3: incorporating a new impact player, while playing against one of

2099
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 3: the worst teams in the league. Based on all of that,

2100
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 3: not only should they beat the Raiders, they should have

2101
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 3: no issue covering the three and a half points spread

2102
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 3: as a road dog. And honestly, if the Raiders do

2103
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 3: end up covering the spread here, and god forbid, they

2104
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 3: actually win the game against Dallas, that is a horrible

2105
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 3: omen for the Cowboys.

2106
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: That Raiders shuck.

2107
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 3: You know, that would actually turn into a Old Troy

2108
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 3: epic fail. Not it would turn from a redemption to

2109
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 3: an epic fail. If the Dallas Cowboys somehow not only

2110
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 3: lose to the Raiders, or I say, not only don't

2111
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 3: cover the spread against the Raiders, but find a way

2112
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 3: to lose on Monday night, absolutely cannot happen.

2113
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 1: You become irredeemable if you lose to the Raiders on

2114
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Monday night football. Yes, I like this game. I'm interested

2115
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: in this game. The Cowboys should win. But if the

2116
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Raiders are going to have a chance for their offense

2117
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: to ever get loose with Chip Kelly and Geno Smith

2118
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: this year, this is that game. But maybe it's going

2119
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: against them because Dallas has the cavalry arriving. Even if

2120
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't make them an elite defense all of a sudden,

2121
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: it could just be a little bit more inspiring out

2122
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: there for the rest of the crew to bring in

2123
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: these guys.

2124
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it needs to be.

2125
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,799
Speaker 3: Like look again, because I don't think the Dallas defense

2126
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 3: is going to turn into like the Dallas Cowboy defenses.

2127
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Of the early nineties or anything like that.

2128
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 3: You just have to show market improvement you should anyway

2129
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 3: against the team like the Raiders. But like I said,

2130
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 3: what you can't have the Dallas Cowboys defense throughout this

2131
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 3: entire season has been if your offense has been in

2132
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 3: the funk they got, the Cowboys are coming to town.

2133
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 3: So you just want to make sure that that doesn't

2134
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 3: continue to show itself this weekend again against one of

2135
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 3: the worst offenses in the league, and on top of

2136
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 3: the fact that you have reinforcements coming on the defensive side.

2137
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 3: You just want to see those guys that you brought

2138
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: in on defense have some sort of impact. That's what

2139
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 3: you're looking for as a Cowboy fan.

2140
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 1: I like that you're ending with the final game in

2141
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: Week eleven, as we finish off the NFL six Pack

2142
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: here for Week eleven of the NFL season, Mark appreciate you.

2143
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we got to talk about the college

2144
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 1: football season because there's like five really good games going

2145
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,759
Speaker 1: on tomorrow, and that means I'm going to basically pepper

2146
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Kevin with questions about all these games, because what do

2147
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I know?

2148
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 2: Bring them on?

2149
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Not much? My Ducks. One tonight, I'll say.

2150
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: That a huge win against Minnesota.

2151
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: Yes, college Football forecast as we get you set for

2152
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: games starting just mere hours from now, is next here

2153
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: on F and A on FSR.

2154
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2155
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,960
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2156
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2157
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2158
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,519
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2159
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Speaker 1: get off the air. It is F and A on FSR.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, Kevin doing well?

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Speaker 2: Doing well?

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Speaker 3: It's a week twelve of the college football season, and

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Speaker 3: I know what gets confusing. I have to look it

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Speaker 3: up because you have week zero and week negative one

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Speaker 3: and there's math involved.

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Speaker 2: There's too much math, way too much math. It's math,

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Speaker 2: it's arithmetic.

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Speaker 3: What we do know is we are in the final

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to turn into I don't want

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Speaker 3: to turn into our guy, Jay stew Can you believe

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Speaker 3: it's already November twentieth or November fifteenth or sixteenth, depending

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Speaker 3: on where you are, So lambsdu.

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Speaker 2: But you know how far we've gotten through the season.

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Speaker 3: There's basically three weeks left in the regular season in

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Speaker 3: college football at this point. That is how quickly it goes.

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Speaker 3: And we have a lot of pivotal matchups coming up

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Speaker 3: this weekend, I would.

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Speaker 1: Say, namely college Football Forecast.

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Speaker 2: With I got so excited Mark, I jumped the sounder.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my goodness, so many people are talking about

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Speaker 3: Pitt and Notre Dame nine versus twenty two.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you, Adam, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what your thoughts are on it.

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Speaker 1: My thoughts it's an early game, I may not wake up.

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Speaker 2: And son, hey, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: That's what I understand.

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Speaker 3: My other well, my other thought. I don't understand all

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Speaker 3: the pit hype. They've played nobody. I don't think they're

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Speaker 3: that good. To be honest with you, yes, they're good

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Speaker 3: at stopping the run, but again against two. They're great offensively,

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Speaker 3: they have the best offense in the ACC, but again

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Speaker 3: against two their big run. Honestly, their super Bowl is

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Speaker 3: the next three weekends. They have Notre Dame today, they

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Speaker 3: also have followed that up with Georgia Tech, and then

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Speaker 3: they end with the University of Miami. So I can't

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Speaker 3: judge them based on anything until I see what happens

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Speaker 3: these last three games, and be honest with you, I

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Speaker 3: think they lose all of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not hating. I'm hating.

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Speaker 3: I'm not hating on pitt. I don't want any Panther

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Speaker 3: fans that jump down my throat about this.

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Speaker 1: Don't you like the fact they went back to their

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Speaker 1: old uniforms or whatever. People are digging the retro pit uniforms.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't do it for you?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, first of all, yes, they're cool. I

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Speaker 3: do like the uniforms. Doesn't affect how they play on

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Speaker 3: the field though. Unfortunately. Yes, I understand look good, feel good,

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Speaker 3: play good, but not if you aren't that good, especially

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Speaker 3: if you're not as good as the competition ahead of you.

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Speaker 2: See, the problem is, yes, Pitt still has a chance to.

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Speaker 3: Make it to the college football playoff if they win

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Speaker 3: the ACC, if they find a way to run the

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Speaker 3: table get to the a SEC championship game, Yes they

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Speaker 3: have a shot to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right, Chuck, it won't.

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Speaker 1: Les.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna happen this weekend because Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: basically has been playing in playoff games since Week three.

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Speaker 3: Because after they lost their first two games to Texas

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Speaker 3: Tech in Miami or excuse Texas A and M Miami,

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Speaker 3: they knew, based on their strength of schedule they had

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Speaker 3: no margin for air back against the wall. They had

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Speaker 3: to beat everybody. They had to beat usc which they

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Speaker 3: found a way to do on the rain. They have

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Speaker 3: to win out to end the regular season. So they

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Speaker 3: have been playing in playoff mode for the better part

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Speaker 3: of two months. I'm not I don't expect that to

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Speaker 3: stop now. Yes, Pitt has been good against the run,

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Speaker 3: but again, good against the run against Syracuse Boston College.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna translate against Notre Dame in the run game.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that it will, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: all right, So maybe the game will end up being

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Speaker 3: somewhat entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Can score some points.

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Speaker 3: But the designs that people have of Pittsburgh potentially pulling

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Speaker 3: off this upset and knocking off Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Surets anything could happen, but I honestly don't see it.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying CJ. Carr may join up with Sonic

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Speaker 1: and Knuckles and the running backs with the Lions with

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Speaker 1: how much he's gonna run all.

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Speaker 2: Over pitt Yes, CJ. Carr, who they've been leaning on

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Speaker 2: a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, Love the running back is been the big,

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Speaker 3: the bell cow, the star for them. But Car's gotten

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01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 3: better and better as the season has gone on. So

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame is a team to definitely watch out for,

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Speaker 3: as we had towards the playoff time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about this pittshead coach pack Guzy Nerdoozy downplay

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Speaker 1: the game? We did when he was asked if it's

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Speaker 1: a must win game against Notre Dame, and he dismissed that,

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Speaker 1: saying I can't believe this quote. Absolutely not. It is

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Speaker 1: not an ACC game. I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 1: It's not an ACC game. Thank you. We didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I'd gladly get beat one hundred and three or one

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Speaker 1: hundred and ten to ten in that game. They can

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Speaker 1: put up one hundred on us as long as we

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Speaker 1: win the next two after that. But again, our focus

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Speaker 1: is on Notre Dame and getting as many wins as

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Speaker 1: we can, so I save jack ass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a thing to say publicly.

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Speaker 1: How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: I will, I will say in a certain since he's

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Speaker 2: not wrong, because ultimately you end up winning the a C.

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Speaker 3: Now i'll say this too. I'll all finish my point.

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Speaker 3: Then I'll get back to that. You end up winning

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Speaker 3: the ACC, you win the AEC championship game, likely find

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Speaker 3: yourself into a college football playoff spot. But I say likely,

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Speaker 3: but it's not guaranteed. Because here's the thing that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are confused by. You think you have

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Speaker 3: the Power four Conference and you have the Group of

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Speaker 3: five slash group of six.

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Speaker 2: If you want to throw the Pac twelve slash Pack

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Speaker 2: two in.

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Speaker 1: There right now, we don't want to throw them in actually.

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Speaker 2: But no love for Washington State in Oregon State, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: So the way the criteria for the college Football Playoff

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Speaker 3: is the automatic bids go to the top five highest

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Speaker 3: rated conference champions. But that does not necessarily mean that

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Speaker 3: if you are a power for conference you're guaranteed a spot.

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Speaker 2: There is a pathway where say Duke with.

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Speaker 3: Already three losses on their ledger or potentially four, finds

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Speaker 3: a way to win the ACC and they are not

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Speaker 3: one of the highest ranked five conference champions.

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Speaker 2: Because look, the winner the American.

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Speaker 3: Conference, whether it's Navy two lane, it's probably gonna be

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Speaker 3: South Florida, whoever that's gonna end up being, they're getting

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Speaker 3: the spot. But if you go all the way down

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Speaker 3: to the Sun Belt, James Madison is undefeated in conference play,

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Speaker 3: they have one loss earlier this season to Louisville. But

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Speaker 3: if they go run the table in the Sun Belt

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Speaker 3: as an undefeated team and they are held in higher

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Speaker 3: reguard and ranked higher in the final rankings, which they

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Speaker 3: probably would.

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Speaker 2: Be by the way, over say a four loss.

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Speaker 3: Duke team that won the ACC, you can absolutely see

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Speaker 3: two group of five teams get the automatic bids and

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Speaker 3: see a power four conference like the ACC be left

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Speaker 3: out of the college football playoff completely.

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Speaker 4: So that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely can.

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Speaker 3: So yes, pitt can lose today against Notre Dame run

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Speaker 3: the table, but they'd have three losses on their ledger,

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Speaker 3: and there is a chance that a three loss conference

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Speaker 3: champion in the A season and the look, I'll say

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Speaker 3: all this to say it's not likely to happen, but

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Speaker 3: I'm telling.

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Speaker 2: You what's a possible.

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Speaker 4: I guarantee it.

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Speaker 2: It is very much a possibility.

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Speaker 1: He's not guaranteeing it. I guarantee though his players hearing

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Speaker 1: this quote from Pat Nardoozy which was a doozy with

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Speaker 1: this quote like, oh cool, we can take our foot

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Speaker 1: off the gas this week doesn't matter against Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Coach said we could lose by one hundred. Is that

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Speaker 1: how you inspire your team and motivate them but get

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Speaker 1: up for a big game?

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Speaker 2: Come on? Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It could be one of those reverse psychology things like

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Speaker 3: you know what I said, something completely off the wall.

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Speaker 2: The pressure is all on me, not on. It could

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Speaker 2: be one of those sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: He's shielding them. He's crazy like a yox.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 3: give a rip what he said. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: would have mattered one way or the other how this game.

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Speaker 2: Is going to end up playing out.

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Speaker 1: No one has talked about this game more than us

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Speaker 1: over the last ten minutes. We've really hyped it up,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even going to see.

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Speaker 2: It outside of South Bend in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: You're right, can we get to a game that matters? Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Texas at Georgia. Yeah, Georgia is favored

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Speaker 1: by five and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because arch Manning all of a sudden

2342
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Speaker 3: has been playing pretty damn well, played extremely well last week.

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Speaker 3: So there's even talk that he might have even gotten

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Speaker 3: himself back into the Heisman conversation depending on how the

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Speaker 3: season plays out and how losses might end up stacking up.

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Speaker 3: If you're Alabama or if you're Georgia. By the way

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Speaker 3: you were playing heads to head in this situation, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that's realistic either at him Yeah, to be

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Speaker 3: quite honest with you, I don't think Texas ends up

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Speaker 3: winning this game because even though Georgia is not as

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Speaker 3: good defensively as they typically are under Kirby Smart and

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Speaker 3: they can't generate a pass rush at all.

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Speaker 2: Their pressure rate is horrible and their sack numbers are bad.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, but there's still a top notch defense in the SEC,

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Speaker 3: and I still think they'll give that Texas offense some problems.

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Speaker 3: The real chess match is going to be on the

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Speaker 3: other side, Texas's top defense versus Georgia on offense and

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Speaker 3: the way Gunner Stockton and the way they've been playing,

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Speaker 3: they have so many weapons left and right. They kill

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01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 3: you a three tight end. Zachar Riott Branch, the transfer

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Speaker 3: receiver from USC has been phenomenal for them. Who wins

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Speaker 3: that match up? Georgia's offense versus Texas defense? And I'll

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, I think Georgia at this point

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Speaker 3: in time can score just enough points to be able

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Speaker 3: to outpace Texas in this one. So Biden on mean,

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Speaker 3: I think you said five and a half points spread.

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Speaker 3: I believe it is. Yeah, I can see Texas covering

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Speaker 3: that spread. I can absolutely see this thing going down

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Speaker 3: to the wire and being a three point game.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately.

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Speaker 3: Even though Manning is playing better and Texas's offense has improved,

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Speaker 3: I trust Georgia's offense a little bit more in this spot.

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Speaker 1: See when Alabama beat them on the road Georgia this year.

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Speaker 1: They got an All World performance from Tys Simpson. To

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01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: be able to do that, I just don't think arch

2376
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: Manning is capable. Both their losses have come on the road.

2377
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: They've also had to win two overtime games on the

2378
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: road against pretty inferior competition. I don't know. If this

2379
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: was two on two off I'd probably take Georgia to

2380
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: cover that number, Kevin, But maybe I'm a hater.

2381
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you're a hater. That you're well

2382
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 2: justified and your analysis that.

2383
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 3: But I think Texas has played better, they have improved,

2384
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 3: and yes they've won by the skin of their teeth

2385
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 3: in these last few weeks. And sometimes that happens in

2386
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 3: conference play. Sometimes you get a little bit of a scare.

2387
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: Those things pop up as Tabana last week against Penn State.

2388
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 3: So these sort of things do happen.

2389
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get your teeth kicked in, so that could

2390
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: also happen.

2391
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 3: It's absolutely possible, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

2392
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't think that Georgia runs Texas off of the field.

2393
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 3: I do think they win, but I do think this teeth.

2394
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 3: This game is competitive throughout all.

2395
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: Number eleven Oklahoma speaking of at number four Alabama, this

2397
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: is interesting only because Oklahoma's defensive line is so good

2398
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: that that could keep them in it. I don't know,

2399
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it?

2400
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.

2401
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 3: So Oklahoma's defense in general is one of the best

2402
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 3: in the entire country, and Alabama offensively, especially in the

2403
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 3: passing game, is excellent. Ty Simpson has been amazing this year.

2404
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 3: Their problem is they can't run the ball a lick

2405
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 3: and their offensive line leaves a lot to be desired.

2406
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 3: This is very similar. We started the show talking about

2407
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 3: the Patriots and Drake May and how great of a

2408
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 3: season he's having, but he's been sacked a lot and

2409
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 3: under pressure a lot. Ty Simpson, in spite of all

2410
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 3: the great numbers that he's put up, has been under

2411
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:09,799
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure this season.

2412
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Now not as much as May, but he's not like

2413
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 2: he's running for his life. But he's certainly's not. You

2414
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: know C J.

2415
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 3: Stroud from a couple of years ago at Ohio State

2416
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 3: where he's sitting back there for fifteen minutes all the time,

2417
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 3: in the world to be able to throw the ball.

2418
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 3: He's been under duress. He's gonna be under duress against Oklahoma.

2419
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 3: The problem is if we flip around the other side

2420
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 3: on the other matchup Oklahoma offensively with Mateir, I just

2421
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 3: don't know what I'm gonna get against Alabama's defense at

2422
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 3: the end. Similar to Georgia Alabama, A Bama's defense is

2423
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 3: not dominant, but it's not horrible either. I do think

2424
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 3: the problem with Mateir now they do it. They're coming

2425
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 3: off of a week off. They beat Tennessee week off,

2426
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 3: so that's another week for Matier's hand to heal. He's

2427
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 3: shown he can make some plays, so it's not that

2428
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 3: they're a complete SIEV offensively, there's just a lot on

2429
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 3: his shoulders. I will say Alabama has been vulnerable to

2430
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 3: running quarterbacks this year too, so if Matier can actually

2431
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 3: make him work a little bit and get some numbers

2432
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 3: on the ground, I think this is also a game

2433
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 3: that could be pretty damn close. But ultimately I gotta

2434
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 3: go with Alabama and the way ty Simpson's playing, this

2435
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 3: could be a Heisman moment type of game for him.

2436
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 3: If he has a huge performance against Oklahoma in that

2437
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 3: defense this weekend.

2438
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned they've had trouble with rushing and running quarterbacks

2439
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: out there, but John Mattier, after having eleven touchdowns in

2440
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: his first four games, he's had just three in his

2441
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 1: last four games since returning. That injury has taken away

2442
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: his superpower, and they don't have a lot else going

2443
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: for them on offense. Yeah, I'm with you. I think

2444
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: roll Tad roll. Now there's another game of interest, especially

2445
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 1: in southern California here. I want to know what USC

2446
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 1: is gonna do against this Iowa defense that almost handed

2447
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks another loss that was a great game,

2448
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 1: came down to the very end, and i WA being

2449
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 1: at number twenty one, I think they're better than that.

2450
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 1: I know USC is only seventeen, but they're getting six.

2451
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: They're giving I should say, six and a half points

2452
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 1: in this one. The Trojans and Iowa was defense is

2453
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: as stingy as it gets. They got to go to

2454
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: the coliseum on the road, but that's the type of

2455
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: physicality that typically gives USC problems.

2456
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2457
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 3: Now, I will say USC hosted Michigan earlier this year,

2458
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 3: one of the more physical teams in the country, and

2459
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 3: kind of handed them their lunch, so we'll see how

2460
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 3: that ends up going. The wild card in this adam

2461
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 3: is the weather. It is a very very rainy weekend

2462
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 3: all weekend long in Los Angeles, and Saturday is supposed

2463
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 3: to be one of the worst days. There's like a

2464
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 3: ninety two percent chance of rainfall at kickoff and it

2465
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 3: is not gonna let up. I think I read a

2466
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 3: weather report on Friday that there's gonna be over two

2467
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 3: inches of rain that's gonna hit southern California over a

2468
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 3: twenty hour period till Saturday. Beginning on Saturday, so that

2469
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: plays right into Iowa's hands. Iowa, who, by the way,

2470
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 3: just came from playing in the torrential downpour against your

2471
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 3: Oregon Ducks last week.

2472
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 2: So that's gonna work in their favor now.

2473
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 1: Especially because USC fans aren't going to make it to

2474
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 1: the game in time. Oh yeah, if at all, the

2475
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 1: place would be empty when there's when there's half an

2476
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: inch of rain out here, and so they're California, everybody

2477
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: just packs it in now.

2478
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 3: Lnkin Riley said this week he's not really concerned about

2479
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 3: the weather affecting their style of play unless there's gonna

2480
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 3: be high wins. Now there's gonna be high wins in

2481
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 3: comparison to what it typically is, but nothing out of

2482
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 3: this world, at least according to what I've read. So

2483
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 3: they still plan to come out and be relatively balanced.

2484
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 3: It's not like they're out there throwing the ball ninety

2485
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 3: times a game with mayav but they're they're a pretty

2486
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 3: balanced attack, going back to what they used to be

2487
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 3: or what Lincoln Riley seems in Oklahoma used to be.

2488
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: So I think it be a pretty entertaining game.

2489
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: But to offense versus top five defense.

2490
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so it is very much you know, iron

2491
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 3: shopper and iron and you know, unstoppable for some movable

2492
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 3: objects situation. I'm gonna give the edge to USC because

2493
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 3: they have a lot of offensive weapons and I do

2494
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 3: think that they can score more points. Oregon has been

2495
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 3: kind of limping offensively last couple of weeks if some

2496
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 3: of their better offensive players have been out, and I

2497
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 3: think that's part of the reason why they've been somewhat lackluster,

2498
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 3: although you wouldn't know it based on how they performed

2499
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 3: on Friday Night.

2500
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 1: A little thin with their playmakers, but yeahst night wasn't

2501
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 1: top tier.

2502
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, USC doesn't have that issue, So I would not

2503
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 3: be surprising the least bit of Iowa got the victory.

2504
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give the nod to USC being at

2505
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 3: home and having a little bit more offensive firepower than Iowa.

2506
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 1: But Kevin, yes, do they cover the odds?

2507
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 2: Half six and a half?

2508
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 1: Nah? This will not well speaking out. Coming up next,

2509
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 1: we got two on too off. We got to pick

2510
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 1: two favorites in the NFL and two underdogs for this week,

2511
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Week eleven. He's Kevin Vigers. I'm Ana Mouslin. You're listening

2512
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 1: to F and A on FSR for.

2513
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,560
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2514
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:51,760
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2515
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2516
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,560
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2517
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,800
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2518
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,120
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2520
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,879
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2521
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,280
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2522
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: It is F and A on FSR. Final segment here

2523
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 1: and before we leave you, we gotta leave you with

2524
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: some good picks maybe sort of kind of mark two

2525
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: on two on all right. I think last week was

2526
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: the third week in a row we both went two

2527
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: and two.

2528
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 2: Kevin, Yes, that's right.

2529
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm twenty and twenty. Kevin's twenty three and seventeen and

2530
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: Joel Klats twenty four and thirty one.

2531
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 3: Why you have to continue to take shots a Joel Klatt?

2532
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 3: You're gonna keep doing this until he cut finally comes

2533
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 3: on the show, right.

2534
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, says Yeah, that's right.

2535
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough.

2536
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: He and Guss same time. Yeah, all right, So we

2537
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: got to pick two games on favorites to on to

2538
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 1: off and two games where we like underdogs in the

2539
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: NFL for Week eleven, Kevin, you want to give me

2540
01:56:59,400 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 1: an on?

2541
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with those Dallas Cowboys three and a

2542
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 3: half point faves on the road against the Raiders on

2543
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 3: Monday Night football. I think that's right on, and I

2544
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 3: think the Cowboys will and them well better cover that

2545
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 3: spread on Monday Night because if not, they'll be held

2546
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 3: to Bay.

2547
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: Look, but then you'll be happy as a Raiders fan.

2548
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: You're hedging here, That's all this is. I see right

2549
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: through it.

2550
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent right, I'm absolutely hedging here. I'm

2551
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 3: not denying that one bit. Why went either way?

2552
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: Why am I taking the Dallas Cowboys then? Also minus three?

2553
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 1: Like I got nothing here? I just feel like their offense.

2554
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Raiders can keep up with them.

2555
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Even if Dallas's defense is that bad, the Raiders offense

2556
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 1: is that dead.

2557
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Hey, they score twenty nine against Jacksonville the week.

2558
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: Before Brock Bauers is back. He is their offense Like

2559
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: that changes everything?

2560
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 3: Guys a monster? I mean he basically beat Jacksonville by himself.

2561
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 3: Well they didn't beat they lost to them, but kept

2562
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 3: them in that game by himself.

2563
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well, give me another on here.

2564
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 3: How about the Houston tex and six point favorites over

2565
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 3: the Tans Texas at the Humungus comeback victory after getting

2566
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 3: down big last weekend, right in the arm of Davis Mills.

2567
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 3: And they're gonna be doing it yet again with CJ.

2568
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 3: Shroud out for a second consecutive week. So like Houston

2569
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,919
Speaker 3: to cover that six point spread in Tennessee.

2570
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: All right? This team beat up on the Cleveland Browns before,

2571
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: Well who doesn't Why can't they do it again? Ravens

2572
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 1: minus eight with Lamar Lamar Jackson playing well. They need

2573
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: to win this game. They are living and doing the

2574
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 1: high wire.

2575
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 2: Act, must win mode.

2576
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 3: Adham, They're just they are the noted, They're the Notre

2577
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 3: Dame fighting Irish of the NFL.

2578
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 1: They gotta win, yeah, but they put themselves in this

2579
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: position like the Clippers. They gotta win every game for

2580
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. So Ravens minus eight my

2581
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 1: other favorite, my other on what about an off a

2582
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: dog an underdog? Do you like? Kevin?

2583
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with those Bears. I know I've talked

2584
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 2: them up earlier.

2585
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 3: The Vikings are two and a half point favorites over

2586
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 3: the Bears in Minnesota. I am a believer in Ben

2587
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 3: Johnson and Caleb Williams in turn of this Chicago offense around,

2588
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna get it done. They're gonna

2589
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Speaker 3: come up as underdogs and get a find a way

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01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 3: to cover that spread and maybe even get the victory.

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01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 2: Outright.

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01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it outright victory over Minnesota. Bears are back, went.

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01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 1: Back from what nineteen eighty five? Yes, absolutely, it's like

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01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: that in Chicago.

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01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, some years they're Adham all right, stand up. Yeah,

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01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 2: he winning record, blades.

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01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 3: A winning record for the Bears through week ten to eleven,

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01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 3: whatever it is at this point in time.

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01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: That's a victory. We'll take it. Mark agrees with me.

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01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't always like picking a game that could be

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01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: this close between two great teams. But if you're giving

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01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: me three points with the Seattle Seahawks, with how good

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01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 1: they have looked, I'll take your points fair. Maybe they

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01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: went straight up, maybe they went closer than that in

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01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: LA against the Rams. Give me Seattle one more off

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01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 1: from you, Kevin.

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01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 2: I can see that.

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01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm going with the Detroit Lions. They are two and

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01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 3: a half point dogs against the Eagles. Is that what

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01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 3: yours too? I saw your reaction it is.

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01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 1: That's what I changed my play us forward Denver two

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02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 1: after your analysis.

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02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 3: The way that the Eagles are playing right now, I

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02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 3: only have a great record. We talked about it with

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02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 3: e from Salon. But I love Detroit. I think they're

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02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 3: rolling and I think they beat the Eagles.

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02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 2: In this one.

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02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 1: Is Dan Campbell calling the plays in this game too?

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02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 1: I haven't heard otherwise, because let me tell you, it's

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02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: one thing to take over play calling duties when you're

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02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: going up against the Commanders. Now you're going up against

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02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: a real team. I want to see what Dan Campbell

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02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 1: can do calling the shots again. He did look good

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02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 1: last week.

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02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 2: It looked great.

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02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: They looked amazing, all right, So we're on the same

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02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 1: two teams when it comes to the Cowboys and the Lions.

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Speaker 1: This has been FNA on FSR. We got Project Nil

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Speaker 1: next