Speaker 1: Check it down man now down there. Monday Morning, sept
Speaker 1: Dames Beating the Book podcast. It's Gil Alexander Guessing Lines,
Speaker 1: week number four in the National Football League. Not just
Speaker 1: any guessing lines, but guessing lines with story Time Christie
Speaker 1: Andrews back for his old staple. Not just the guessing
Speaker 1: lines exercise where we try to extract value from the
Speaker 1: upcoming week's NFL lines, and hopefully by the way, you're
Speaker 1: playing the game interactively as well with your own guesses.
Speaker 1: But a story never before told on this podcast, never
Speaker 1: made his book, Chrissie's book, of course, called and then
Speaker 1: one Day never never Never, by the way it's called
Speaker 1: then one day, not and then one day, then one
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Speaker 1: It's a numbers game, kil Alexander. Believe it is a
Speaker 1: numbers game on a Monday morning. It's kil Alexander, sirius
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Speaker 1: and it is Monday during the NFL season, Week four,
Speaker 1: coming up Week three almost in the rear view, not
Speaker 1: quite you know what that means on Monday, it's guessing lines.
Speaker 1: It's the staple. Will also put it in podcast form
Speaker 1: as well, and today not only Chrissie Andrews, but Chrissie
Speaker 1: as we bring him in the director of the South
Speaker 1: Point Hotel Casino sports book. Chrissy, the return of story
Speaker 1: time today? Is that right? I have one and uh,
Speaker 1: I got reminded of it. It It probably should have been
Speaker 1: in the book. But we'll tell with here today. It'll
Speaker 1: be the first time ever heard. So we'll go from there,
Speaker 1: first time ever heard, first time ever in any form
Speaker 1: of media. A story later on the show, which means
Speaker 1: we gotta scoot today because we got obviously not quite
Speaker 1: a full slate. You told me beforehand. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of teams on buy, so fifteen total games to get to.
Speaker 1: And as we do this for those just landing on
Speaker 1: the show for the first time, um, you know, we
Speaker 1: try to go through the show and then we'll harken
Speaker 1: back to what happened yesterday. Comments on all in the
Speaker 1: point of the exercise to try to extract value. First
Speaker 1: look at at lines and next week and see where
Speaker 1: value might exist. First of all, Chrissy, good bad man
Speaker 1: kind of week for the books how to go for you? Well,
Speaker 1: Saturday was real good, yeah, very very good, good handle
Speaker 1: results very good yesterday and not so good. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we wanted up making a little bit of money at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Not great, but you know
Speaker 1: we we kind of held our own. We needed the
Speaker 1: Browns pretty good last night. Uh, you know, we were
Speaker 1: all over the place. Number wise, four would have really
Speaker 1: hurt us. If there were hands one by four, which
Speaker 1: I think we were looking at there for a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: that would have been real bad. But Raham's covering. You know,
Speaker 1: we got a little bit back in the half, and
Speaker 1: you know it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. So it wind up making a
Speaker 1: little bit for the day, not much, but mostly the
Speaker 1: Bettors had their way with us yesterday. Okay, JB, who's
Speaker 1: in for a producing number five? Jeff Pearl's JB doing
Speaker 1: guessing lines with us this year on Mondays while Jeff's
Speaker 1: schedule gets rejigged. How did you do yesterday? Um, gosh,
Speaker 1: I think I only I had like a money line parlay,
Speaker 1: you know, bridge jump in as Paul as Paul would
Speaker 1: call it, A bunch of favorites paired together, came through,
Speaker 1: you know, minus three dollars. But I made it through
Speaker 1: my last playing, Last man Standing took the Colts, so
Speaker 1: still alive. That that's pretty exciting, all right, pretty exciting
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah. I think circus consensus was five and
Speaker 1: oh if I'm not mistaken, So that was a that
Speaker 1: sort of dovetails into what you were saying, Chrissy, right there.
Speaker 1: So a pretty good uh week for the the average
Speaker 1: Better shall we begin with Thursday? With the story time looming,
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Let's do it. We have Chilly
Speaker 1: at green Bay Philly. Green Bay, Philly coming off a
Speaker 1: loss to the Detroit Lions twenty seven to twenty four,
Speaker 1: green Bay beating the uh breating the beating the Broncos
Speaker 1: and covering in the process. Sixteen h Philly gets the
Speaker 1: Lions yesterday seven drop passes, no DeShawn Jackson with the abdomen,
Speaker 1: uh noel Sean Jeffrey with a calf. They felt that
Speaker 1: they did have a chance. The Eagles did after Malcolm
Speaker 1: Jenkins block Matt Prater's forty six yard field goal UH
Speaker 1: try with one fifty three left or Sold Douglas returning
Speaker 1: to the Lions twenty two, but an illegal block on
Speaker 1: Jenkins pushed it back to midfield. Fourth and five sprowls.
Speaker 1: Darren's Foles called a pass for a first down, but
Speaker 1: got cold for Philly's third offensive pass interference, then went
Speaker 1: steep past the J Jr. Sega Whiteside incomplete forty one
Speaker 1: seconds left. Ar Sega Whiteside said he should have had it,
Speaker 1: but Katie barred the door. At that point, Detroit holds
Speaker 1: on for the win. They did get a special teams
Speaker 1: touchdown to kick off re turn for a touchdown did
Speaker 1: the Lions against the Eagles. That proved to be the
Speaker 1: difference as well. Green Bay Aaron Rodgers Valdes Scantling was
Speaker 1: his big receiver six catches ninety nine yards a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Ar just said he never had his jersey look so
Speaker 1: clean after a game that he did after yesterday's game,
Speaker 1: and Preston Smith matching a career high with three sacks.
Speaker 1: They sat Joe Flacco a total of six times. But
Speaker 1: Christie and I'll and I'll leave it at this, forty
Speaker 1: five of green Bay's fifty eight points thus far this
Speaker 1: year in the first half. So whatever is happening at halftime,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Green Bay's not adjusting to what's
Speaker 1: going on, but they basically have to hold on for
Speaker 1: dear life and all of these put that all in
Speaker 1: the wash good Thursday night matchup. How about that, I'll say,
Speaker 1: green Bay, it's gonna be more than a field goal.
Speaker 1: We don't know about the status of these receivers yet.
Speaker 1: With the Eagles, I'll say four green Bay minus four,
Speaker 1: you're a little light four and a half, and I
Speaker 1: think that's a good number, mostly because of the injuries
Speaker 1: on Philly. By the way, both these teams were involved
Speaker 1: in and perhaps are two worst games of the day.
Speaker 1: Why you guys all over Detroit against Philly. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: probably because of the injuries. I would say more than
Speaker 1: anything else public all over green Bay. Actually we had
Speaker 1: some sharp money on Denver. That's kind of evened it
Speaker 1: out a little bit. But with all the other favorites winning,
Speaker 1: it's one of those games you look back and say
Speaker 1: that this game cost us pretty good. And so just
Speaker 1: a note to take the Green Bay's defense, I think
Speaker 1: it looked great so far this year not so much,
Speaker 1: but you gotta think Rogers will probably get it together.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's getting a little long in the tooth,
Speaker 1: you know, so uh, not positive that you will think
Speaker 1: you will know Anyway, I think four and a half
Speaker 1: pretty good number. Opened up with Green Bay one of
Speaker 1: seven three and oh teams, the Lions and eighth undefeated
Speaker 1: team at two oh and one. So you said it
Speaker 1: was four and a half. That was the number in
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, okay, I might open four and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, how many times have you said on the
Speaker 1: early season, you're a little light, Gil, You're a little light.
Speaker 1: That's you were like last week the favorites really out
Speaker 1: of field day favorite better. We tried to do better
Speaker 1: this week. But you know that's the point of the exercise,
Speaker 1: right where where there is difference, there is value. Perhaps,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to something exactly Sunday. First up,
Speaker 1: Carolina at Houston, Carolina at Houston. Well, how about this?
Speaker 1: I mean last week I said, you know, with the
Speaker 1: Cam Newton when we were on air Tuesday, when the
Speaker 1: Cam Newton news came down that he was gonna miss practice,
Speaker 1: and I remember saying all through last week, are we
Speaker 1: really sure they're not better off without him? And that's
Speaker 1: tough to say before you see it. But Kyle Allen
Speaker 1: nineteen of twenty six christy for two sixty one, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, in Carolina's win yesterday over Arizona thirty eight
Speaker 1: to twenty. They ended up winning it, going away as
Speaker 1: two point dogs in that ballgame. Christian McCaffrey filling up
Speaker 1: a statue once again. Twenty four carries, a hundred fifty
Speaker 1: three yards, a touchdown, three catches thirty five greg Olsen,
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen lied on him six catches for seventy five yards,
Speaker 1: two of which were touchdown, and they sacked Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: did the Panthers eight times? Eight times? Carolina at who
Speaker 1: here in Houston? You said, Carolina at Houston? Okay, in Houston.
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson. I guess the big note on DeShawn Jackson
Speaker 1: that we can always say is he only got sacked
Speaker 1: two times. That's a big deal whenever DeShawn Jackson's on
Speaker 1: the field because his offensive line is just horrific. Again,
Speaker 1: we said, uh, I think it was twelve straight games
Speaker 1: in which he had been sacked. From talking about Watson, yes,
Speaker 1: oh Watson, I'm sorry. Shaun Watson fifty four yesterday, So
Speaker 1: talking about the Shawn Jackson that second ago with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson thirty four yesterday, three fifty one yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no pick, but again sack just twice. Uh. They rallied
Speaker 1: the Texans in from a ten point halftime deficit twenty
Speaker 1: consecutive points yesterday to beat the Chargers ultimately twenty charger
Speaker 1: miscuse charges doing chargers things, As Dodd wish Up said,
Speaker 1: I got Houston by six. Here. Wow, it's Houston by
Speaker 1: four and a half. So you're obviously not white. Uh well,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little high myself, you know,
Speaker 1: I listen, I thought Watson really played well yesterday, but
Speaker 1: I still have my questions about that offensive line. They
Speaker 1: protected him well, no doubt about it. You know, they
Speaker 1: really did um. But again, did the Chargers do enough
Speaker 1: charger things to hand Houston that Daniel? Maybe? Uh so, boy,
Speaker 1: you you like six, you know, it's four and a
Speaker 1: half solid across the boards, So I'm gonna open the
Speaker 1: four and a half here as well. But I tell
Speaker 1: you the truth, you know, Carolina, you know we've talked
Speaker 1: about it. You know, I think we have seen the
Speaker 1: best in cam Newton. And is Kyle Allen the answer?
Speaker 1: You know, he could, you know, put him in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame off at one game, but he sure
Speaker 1: looked pretty darn good. I can tell you that, um,
Speaker 1: because I've got four and a half a little high.
Speaker 1: I'll open it four and a half, so I guess
Speaker 1: and see what they want to take me from there.
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I think I'm leaning towards
Speaker 1: the dog more than and a lot of it is
Speaker 1: a bet against Houston more than a bet on Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I could see it from both sides. Right again.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Carolina sat Kyler Murray eight times. So
Speaker 1: there's that. And Deshaun Watson has the problems of getting sacked.
Speaker 1: By the way Deshaun Watson, it's just tremendous. The plays
Speaker 1: he makes for the Houston Texans that gets them out
Speaker 1: of jams is incredible. On the other hand, Kyle Allen, now,
Speaker 1: assuming he plays, and there is an assumption in that,
Speaker 1: assuming he plays next yeah, you know they've got a
Speaker 1: week do the Texans to prepare for him. Um, And
Speaker 1: so I laid it on six. Four and a half
Speaker 1: is your number. So I'm heavy there. The one and
Speaker 1: two Panthers against the two and one Texans at Houston.
Speaker 1: That's an early game on Sunday, all right, let me
Speaker 1: think about that one. What's another one? Cleveland at more
Speaker 1: than one, Cleveland at Baltimore. Linger on this for a second.
Speaker 1: Shall we the Cleveland Browns last night, Uh lose to
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. They end up losing twenty excuse
Speaker 1: me as four point dogs, So Rams get the cover there.
Speaker 1: Baltimore in defeat. This is one of these things that
Speaker 1: Baltimore and defeat against the Chiefs. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I had the Chiefs yesterday and about twenty five different
Speaker 1: things had to happen for Chiefs backers to lose that
Speaker 1: cut for yesterday and all twenty five did ultimately um
Speaker 1: in the Browns game. Getting back to last night, John
Speaker 1: Johnson intercepting Baker Mayfield's fourth down pass with twenty seven
Speaker 1: seconds left as La escapes with the win. Browns were
Speaker 1: plus two in turnovers last night. They were missing their
Speaker 1: entire starting secondary. They still took the Rams of the
Speaker 1: final snaps. They were missing eight starters in all. But man,
Speaker 1: the stuff that happened in that game for the Browns
Speaker 1: last night. Fourth and nine at the Rams forty within
Speaker 1: twenty left. It's seventeen to thirteen at that point, and
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens goes to Nick Chubb on a run a
Speaker 1: two yard run turns the ball over on downs, Uh,
Speaker 1: Kitchens after the game, We're trying to win the game.
Speaker 1: We're in that side of the field. Bad call. Rams.
Speaker 1: Then the last rams fourth and one at the Cleveland
Speaker 1: nineteen with six thirty seven left up seventeen and thirteen,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh says, we'll kick a field goal to go
Speaker 1: up a touchdown. That was curious, by the way, the
Speaker 1: field will barely made it rams. Then third and three
Speaker 1: at the Cleveland forty six, two fifty four left. Instead
Speaker 1: of just running the ball, they throw a pick and
Speaker 1: give Cleveland life. And then of course the final sequence
Speaker 1: Cleveland first and goal from the five, with all three
Speaker 1: time outs left, four straight passes Chrissie and four straight
Speaker 1: and empty sets, So basically telegraphing and saying, hey, we're
Speaker 1: passing here. Um Kitchens. Then, by the way, uses the
Speaker 1: time out, Uh, not to you know, not in any
Speaker 1: way to healthy offense, but use the time out just
Speaker 1: in case they didn't get in the end zone, ensuring
Speaker 1: that the game would be over. Uh. Only having two
Speaker 1: time outs left at that point, Kitchens, after the game,
Speaker 1: I should have ran it one time. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: kicking myself. If you're looking blame somebody, Blame me. Don't
Speaker 1: blame when our players, don't blame any of our other coaches.
Speaker 1: Just blame me because I can't take it. Just because
Speaker 1: I can take it. Just blame me. Go right to
Speaker 1: your article and say that I missed the game up, Freddie,
Speaker 1: don't worry. Everybody's blaming you. I can tell you this.
Speaker 1: Even when they ran that girl, I'm sitting on the
Speaker 1: cops with my wife, and why would they run the ball, honey,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really don't. It looks like a bad,
Speaker 1: bad calling. Obviously it was Baker Mayfield that. By the way,
Speaker 1: five fourth quarter turnovers this year, Cleveland falls to one
Speaker 1: and two. Like I said, before the season, win some games,
Speaker 1: then start talking, so Cleveland wanted too. They go to Baltimore. Now,
Speaker 1: Cleveland was was the fan favorite before the season to
Speaker 1: win the NFC North Baltimore. Everybody remember everybody on air here, Chrissie,
Speaker 1: everybody had them under on the season win total. Everybody,
Speaker 1: And I said, that's what worries me. Everybody thinks that
Speaker 1: all it takes is three weeks here. Nobody's saying that anymore.
Speaker 1: Even in defeat yesterday, Lamar Jackson two forty three two
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards, no touchdowns, no picks, but eight carries
Speaker 1: forty six yards and a touchdown, mark ingram sixteen carries
Speaker 1: a hundred three yards three touchdowns. Lamar Jackson is now
Speaker 1: eight and two straight up as a starter. Both losses
Speaker 1: to Casey by a combined eight points. Ravens d second
Speaker 1: in the NFL after the first two weeks. They gave
Speaker 1: up five three yards of total offense um, but they
Speaker 1: were they were stuffed once on fourth down. Were the
Speaker 1: Ravens three times they failed to convert on a two
Speaker 1: point conversion, leaving them chasing points all game? Can we
Speaker 1: talk about that real quick for a second before I
Speaker 1: throw it to you? That? What was that? So? Yeah? So,
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. It's John Harbaugh, your proclaimed
Speaker 1: second best coach in in in football. So they go
Speaker 1: up six nothing, they try the two point conversion. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't have a problem with that, because you
Speaker 1: are playing Patrick Mahomes. You want to score as many
Speaker 1: points as possible. Okay, okay, uh. Then late in the game,
Speaker 1: you're down five, you try two point conversion to get
Speaker 1: it three. That makes sense too as well. However, uh,
Speaker 1: there's one where you're down eleven points in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and you go for two instead of one. Now,
Speaker 1: your knee jerk reaction to that is at that point
Speaker 1: you're like, what the heck are they doing? But do
Speaker 1: you remember that Giants Falcons Monday night game, Chrissie where
Speaker 1: the Giants Pat Shermer went for two when they were
Speaker 1: down eight points and we had the whole discussion afterwards
Speaker 1: that Analytically you're it's actually not a bad move to
Speaker 1: do that. So yes, So this is sort of a
Speaker 1: cousin of that. Uh. And here, by the way, on
Speaker 1: the screen at Visa dot com and the Visa and
Speaker 1: a thank you JB is a tweet from Kevin Cole
Speaker 1: from Pro Football Focus, which is basically a float chart.
Speaker 1: That's what you wanted this morning on guessing lines is
Speaker 1: a float chart as to why when you're down eight
Speaker 1: going for two instead of the one is actually, by
Speaker 1: a very simple math, an okay thing to do hardball
Speaker 1: Doing it down eleven to go to nine is actually
Speaker 1: akin to that. But here's the problem with that. Even
Speaker 1: if I try to give him that in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: they were down by eleven and they kicked an extra point,
Speaker 1: so somebody, somebody is well well. After the game, Hardball said,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the situation or which was it, but
Speaker 1: every one of these was clear analytical decision to go
Speaker 1: for two. We had a mindset that we're going to
Speaker 1: come in and try to score as many points as
Speaker 1: we could. So that's what we tried to do. That's great,
Speaker 1: except that you were inconsistent with it, So now I
Speaker 1: can't buy that either. Anyway, I guess I should make
Speaker 1: a guess Baltimore by a touchdown. I'll say Baltimore minus seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: I only see two numbers right now, and it's five
Speaker 1: and a half. I think that's way light, way light.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna open. Yeah, I think that's way light.
Speaker 1: I'm listen. I wasn't on your show or any of
Speaker 1: the shows. You know, everybody knows my situation. I would
Speaker 1: not have picked Baltimore under and I think there's a
Speaker 1: really good team, and I make right now. John Harbor, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he made some mistakes yesterday, but he also knows
Speaker 1: what he has in Lamar Jackson totally reconfigured his whole offense,
Speaker 1: and I'd say it's working. You know again, it's early,
Speaker 1: but you know, so far, so good. I would say,
Speaker 1: even though they lost yesterday, Cleveland and again he listen,
Speaker 1: if there's there's anything in all of this Cleveland, Well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things gonna hold this Cleveland team back,
Speaker 1: including the head coach. And I think that, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta rein in some of these egos. You gotta
Speaker 1: make some better decisions on and off the field. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Freddie Kitchens hasn't in them, to
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. So right now, I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: six just because that's the highest I see, and if
Speaker 1: it goes higher, I'm gonna try to stay ahead of
Speaker 1: it because I don't see people bet in Cleveland, and
Speaker 1: I don't see Baltimore losing this game. I think Baltimore
Speaker 1: is uh probably the third best team in the a
Speaker 1: f C, and I would not be surprised to see
Speaker 1: them playing in January and you know at all, and
Speaker 1: if they went to the a f C title game again,
Speaker 1: don't call it these shocks. I think They're gonna be
Speaker 1: right there. Uh maybe a step behind Case or the Patriots,
Speaker 1: but not a big step, just a small one. I
Speaker 1: think all of that's right. I think they have proven
Speaker 1: themselves through three weeks to be the third best team
Speaker 1: in the f C. And that number is coming to me,
Speaker 1: that numbers come into my seven, I have a feeling.
Speaker 1: I absolutely think you're right. All right, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll continue more guessing lines a week four in the
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Speaker 1: Hope week three was a good one for you, Skil
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Speaker 1: you're feeling good by the way this morning. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling? Um? Yeah, I'm doing okay. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it too much. There's
Speaker 1: still some issues I'm facing, but you know, nothing like
Speaker 1: totally unexpected. So and you're soldiering through the show. So
Speaker 1: thank you for on behalf of everybody for hanging up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. I'll tell you one thing. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: actually having a discussion last time with some people and
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot and you know, all in all,
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty lucky. So you know, let's just
Speaker 1: say I'm seem a lot worse than me. Well, just
Speaker 1: like you to put it in perspective, just like you
Speaker 1: to be that way. But we we all appreciate you
Speaker 1: being here, and uh we hope uh you feel better
Speaker 1: by the minute, by the hour, by the day, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. Um no artful way to segue back into
Speaker 1: football after that, Chrissie, But I didn't want to point
Speaker 1: out one last thing about the Cleveland Baltimore game. We
Speaker 1: talked about the fourth and nine at the Rams forty left, uh,
Speaker 1: and Freddy Kitchens goes to a run to Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: two yards. Not a very inspired play call, but Bill
Speaker 1: Barnwell puts this in perspective. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: have visa dot Com visa app up, but I will
Speaker 1: read it for those listening on radio. Bill Barnwell looking
Speaker 1: through the Pro Football Reference play index, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I can find a fourth and eight plus play.
Speaker 1: This is Barnwell talking where a team deliberately handed the
Speaker 1: ball to a running back before tonight since Bernie Parmly
Speaker 1: in N seven Bertie Parmaly refe inceas cash at plus
Speaker 1: three thousand, all the show today. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: What's another one? Okay, you're out there Washington after New
Speaker 1: York Gangs. My outfit place tonight? The Redskins, who are
Speaker 1: now I believe five and a half point dogs? Consensus?
Speaker 1: Is that right? To the uh? To the Bears, Yes,
Speaker 1: five and a half moved up from four. Um. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know who's playing for the Redskins from one
Speaker 1: week to another. I don't know if Jordan Reid still
Speaker 1: even has a career after all the concussions. It maybe
Speaker 1: over for Jordan Reed. And and you know it's a
Speaker 1: it's a sad thing because allow, yeah, no, his his
Speaker 1: entire career has been plagued by injuries, concussions. Obviously, no
Speaker 1: laughing matter. Will uh will they get back Jonathan Allen
Speaker 1: at some point? So very much up in the air.
Speaker 1: The Giants, I mean, let's talk about them for a second.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. And here's the other thing about what we've
Speaker 1: been saying on a numbers game. Laugh all you want
Speaker 1: about where the Giants picked him at six. We said
Speaker 1: this after the draft, but we're also very clear to
Speaker 1: say none of us really know how good he will
Speaker 1: actually be. And uh you know again, uh we all
Speaker 1: know some folks, uh most successful sports better. I know
Speaker 1: my buddy who I referenced all the time, he loved
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones at Duke. Obviously the Giants did as well
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Yesterday one win for the Giants over the
Speaker 1: Bucks thanks to a missed Matt Gay field goal for
Speaker 1: the unbelievable Bucks were all set up to winning, but
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones with no se Kwan Barkley, who got hurt
Speaker 1: early in that game, late first quarter on the road,
Speaker 1: down eighteen no problem, twenty three of thirty six for
Speaker 1: three thirty six, two touchdown passes, no picks, four on
Speaker 1: the ground, with two touchdowns on the ground, including the
Speaker 1: go ahead score. With one sixteen remaining, Giants rally to
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks. Uh Angram six for one thirteen, a touchdown,
Speaker 1: Shepherd seven for a hundred and a touchdown high ankle
Speaker 1: injury late in the first half. I should say not
Speaker 1: laying the first quarter for for se kwon Um Giants
Speaker 1: without seeing the Redskins tonight, They're going to be a favorite,
Speaker 1: and I'll even make it a tick above a field goal.
Speaker 1: But there is no se Quon, so I can't make
Speaker 1: it that. I can't make it four and a half.
Speaker 1: Let's say three and a half in favor of the Giants. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm like your number better than what I see right now.
Speaker 1: I see two and a half with some juice on
Speaker 1: the favorite or three flat one with a little bit
Speaker 1: of juice on the dog. I'm gonna open three, um,
Speaker 1: But again, there isn't another one. I'm gonna stay ahead
Speaker 1: of this one. If if I see anything higher than
Speaker 1: that pop up, I'm gonna go. Uh. You know, I listen,
Speaker 1: you know, I know it's your outfit in Washington, but boy,
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of problems and the Giants or
Speaker 1: the defense is still absolutely horrible for the Giants, you know,
Speaker 1: let Jameis Winston pass from all that. Although I see
Speaker 1: some improvement Amy Winston. Um, I still think three and
Speaker 1: asks probably a better number. Uh. But one more thing
Speaker 1: about that. The one Jones touchdown on the ground, that
Speaker 1: whole defense opened up that I don't know that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen a defense give a quarterback. That much running room.
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody has to have that responsibility in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. There was nobody there at all.
Speaker 1: That was incredible. But anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: three just because that's the highest I see. If I
Speaker 1: see it going higher, though, I'm gonna try to stay
Speaker 1: ahead of this one. I like the Giants in this spot.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is a bet against Washington. I
Speaker 1: hate to say, just you know, a team with a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries and a lot of problems. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: And Tampa Bay was so locked into their coverage, their
Speaker 1: past coverage, that they just left the whole field open
Speaker 1: on that one. Um. Yeah, And as far as tonight's concerns,
Speaker 1: just a note about the Redskins. That's five and a half.
Speaker 1: Mitch Moss when he was walking out of here, he
Speaker 1: asked me, because you're taking the Redskins tonight? I said no,
Speaker 1: I mean I might tease him with something else, give
Speaker 1: me give me twelve and after eleven and after work
Speaker 1: with but I'm not. I'm not taking the Redskins against number.
Speaker 1: Nothing would surprise me tonight. Uh, in terms of how
Speaker 1: that game falls. Washington at the job like the Bears
Speaker 1: have been all that great, you know, they really haven't
Speaker 1: on I mean that's you know, like I said, there's
Speaker 1: a bet and the move is really against Washington resident
Speaker 1: on the Bears. Yeah, so what was your number? Finally?
Speaker 1: You said two and a half is what you're opening with?
Speaker 1: John's three three three? Al right? I had three and
Speaker 1: a half. Al right, Next game, sir, shagers at Miami
Speaker 1: Charges at Miami Chargers one and two after their loss yesterday,
Speaker 1: and the Miami Dolphins oh and three. This a note
Speaker 1: for all the oh and three teams out there, uh,
Speaker 1: teams that start oh and three in terms of their
Speaker 1: record of making the playoffs. There have been a hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four of the oh and three teams here
Speaker 1: going back to the sixteen game schedule. The record for
Speaker 1: teams making the playoffs after starting oh and three is
Speaker 1: four and one hundred forty four times. It's happened, basically
Speaker 1: in a hundred and forty four such instances. Chargers Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers yesterday, you know, fills up a statue six three
Speaker 1: eighteen two touchdowns note picks, but he was sacked five times.
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen got it done. Eurcheen catches for one three,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, charges trim the lead to seven points. By
Speaker 1: the way, they gave up a ten point lead, then
Speaker 1: they cut it to seven. Drove into Houston territory in
Speaker 1: the final minute, converted to four downs along the way.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they fumbled deep in Texas territory. They had
Speaker 1: a pick and a touchdown, both wiped out by penalties.
Speaker 1: They lost a touchdown for the third time or the
Speaker 1: third time in their due defeats um. They have a
Speaker 1: losing record after three games of the Chargers for the
Speaker 1: fifth consecutive season. And then there's the Dolphins. Chrissie who
Speaker 1: started Josh Rosen. He was eighteen of thirty nine for
Speaker 1: two hundred, no touchdowns, no picks. But they have the
Speaker 1: worst scoring differential the Dolphins due through three games since
Speaker 1: at least nineteen fifty they've been outscored. Really yeah, one
Speaker 1: one thirty three to sixteen. I'll do the math. That's
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventeen points griz um. Oakland's previous record
Speaker 1: Oakland nineteen sixty one. That must have been an AFL team, right,
Speaker 1: Oakland one of six. Yeah, Dolphins have just one touchdown
Speaker 1: in three games, and yet they should have led at
Speaker 1: halftime yesterday, Um, they were twenty two point under because
Speaker 1: we know Kenyan Drake fumbled on first down for the
Speaker 1: Dallas seven yard line the final minute of the second quarter. Um,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence recovered to preserve at ten to six lead.
Speaker 1: They should have gone in there. And the previous drive
Speaker 1: before Drake's fumble, DeVante Parker dropped a throw that he
Speaker 1: easily could have turned into a touchdown. So Dolphins should
Speaker 1: have been up at halftime. Instead, they got rolled in
Speaker 1: the end by the Cowboys thirty one to six. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys cover the big spread. Um. So this is this
Speaker 1: is where it gets really weird this year, guessing these
Speaker 1: lines because whenever the Dolphins are involved, like, we have
Speaker 1: to throw out everything we've ever thought about line making
Speaker 1: ever before. So if the Patriots, what did the Patriots
Speaker 1: end up at Miami? What were they like nineteen and
Speaker 1: a half on the road? Boy, that was one of
Speaker 1: those games. I mean we opened at eighteen and a half,
Speaker 1: we high at twenty three and a half. Well remember
Speaker 1: I'm going to say twenty one and a half something,
Speaker 1: so all over the place in that Oh did they
Speaker 1: get that high on the road? Because remember when we
Speaker 1: did guessing lines. You were at yesterday game? No, when
Speaker 1: they were on the road. Yeah, I'm sorry guessing lines
Speaker 1: was you said sixteen and a half and I said
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half of the time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: give me, give me the Patriots immediately, and it's sort
Speaker 1: it went through me to think nineteen and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: were you at the nineteen and f we finally got
Speaker 1: some wise, I played plus the nineteen and a a half
Speaker 1: and plus nineteen. Yeah, I'm sorry I was yesterday. That's okay.
Speaker 1: So if but that's what I'm saying, Like, right, these
Speaker 1: lines are so big now we can't even keep track
Speaker 1: of So if the Patriots were nineteen and a half
Speaker 1: close on the on the road to Miami, wouldn't the
Speaker 1: Chargers be I mean, I don't know. I'm just throwing
Speaker 1: out a number of these gets. So thirteen and a half,
Speaker 1: I'll say, I don't know. When I was making my numbers,
Speaker 1: I thought fourteen, but at sixteen and a half and seventeen,
Speaker 1: so my god, you know, I guess, just being a
Speaker 1: stubborn bookmaker, I'm gonna open at sixteen and a half.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know where this game is gonna go.
Speaker 1: I really don't, uh, because I see numbers. I actually
Speaker 1: see one sixteen as well. I'm anna open sixteen and
Speaker 1: a half. I mean, listen, I know chargers do chargery
Speaker 1: things to blow games. I don't think they could even
Speaker 1: screw this one up. But who knows. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But Miami, you know he's going back to Roses. The
Speaker 1: Roses didn't look that bad. I didn't say they had
Speaker 1: a lot of guys dropped balls on him. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't want you know. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: going to be the long term answer in Miami. But
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that. Excuse me. He's not bad.
Speaker 1: He really isn't you know. But boys got the other
Speaker 1: fifty two guys on the roster and no bargain. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that one thirty three to sixteen through
Speaker 1: three games. My good god, can I'm surprised by that.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that's that high, I am, But really my
Speaker 1: first reaction is where they that's right? But could the
Speaker 1: but could the Dolphins be again we say this every week?
Speaker 1: Could they be so historically bad that none of these
Speaker 1: numbers are high enough? You know, we'll see chargers God,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that number at thirteen and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do one more here before the break. Oakland at
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Oakland and Indy. Oakland loses pretty badly to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Minnesota did the whole, uh, we're not gonna pass the ball,
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep running thing that they did against
Speaker 1: Atlanta early in the year. Um Waller Darren Waller, most
Speaker 1: of this in garbage time, thirteen catches for a hundred
Speaker 1: thirty four yards, but Derek Carr was sacked four times
Speaker 1: in that game against the Vikings. That game was never competitive.
Speaker 1: Minnesota ends up beating the Raiders thirty to fourteen in
Speaker 1: a game that was probably closer than the score indicates.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis two and one on the season now. Jacobe Brissett
Speaker 1: twenty eight of thirty seven for three ten, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks in Indianapolis twenty seven and twenty four win
Speaker 1: against the Falcons. By the way, the Colts always seemed
Speaker 1: to play close games too, don't they. Even if they
Speaker 1: got a big lead, it's like, all right, we'll let
Speaker 1: them back in here. Brissette, though completed his first sixteen
Speaker 1: passes of the game. He threw for two touchdowns of
Speaker 1: the first half, led the Colts to scores on their
Speaker 1: first four drives. Uh Indie had two scoring drives and
Speaker 1: more than sixty yards. T Y Hilton did miss the
Speaker 1: second half because of a quad injury yesterday, but Adam Vinitari,
Speaker 1: reverting to old Adam nyt Arry five for five, including
Speaker 1: a forty nine yard to start things that he banked
Speaker 1: in off the left upright. Um, this is going to
Speaker 1: You're you're going to record. You're gonna recoil when I
Speaker 1: say this. But do we really still think the cults
Speaker 1: are that much worse off with Jacoby Brissette than they
Speaker 1: were with Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, who at times was
Speaker 1: an interception machine, and Jacoby Brissette, who, now, and this
Speaker 1: is the fact, historically is the most jew dishes quarterback
Speaker 1: with a minimum of five hundred attempts. Now it's over
Speaker 1: six close to six hundred attempts. In terms of his
Speaker 1: interception rate, it's the lowest in the history of the
Speaker 1: National Football League with that minimum. Um, so I love Jacoby,
Speaker 1: per said, and I got Indianapolis minus seven here, I
Speaker 1: got a full touchdown. Well, it's seven one six and
Speaker 1: alf Let me just like he's crazy. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: think I am. No. I can tell you this because
Speaker 1: I've gone through and I wrote an article about this
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago about, you know, when I
Speaker 1: had my website Andrew Luck's interceptions. You know what, he
Speaker 1: throws interceptions when they're losing and he's trying to throw
Speaker 1: them back into the game. And now, up until now,
Speaker 1: Indianapolis had a terrible cast of characters besides Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: and Jacoby per said, I love him to listen. I
Speaker 1: think he's a terrific quarterman. But Andrew Luck through all
Speaker 1: those interceptions when they were losing, trying to throw them
Speaker 1: back into the game through very very few in cepss
Speaker 1: while they were winning. So we can go into that
Speaker 1: some other time. I know, we gotta hustle through this.
Speaker 1: But I happened to like Jacoby precent. I think he's
Speaker 1: very very good. If you think he's better than Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: you're you're nuts. I didn't say that. I said, do
Speaker 1: you think it's that much of a drop off? Is
Speaker 1: what I said. To be clear. You know, it's some
Speaker 1: it's a drop off, you know how much? I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is he's good and getting better. He's
Speaker 1: a good, good player. Uh you know, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that they could he could be a long term
Speaker 1: solution to the calls. In fairness, you've you've always been
Speaker 1: in the tank for Andrew Luck, haven't you? In fairness?
Speaker 1: I love and I love Andrew Luck. Don't hide it
Speaker 1: one bit, you know, serious man love for him. But
Speaker 1: you know, listen if he you know he did what
Speaker 1: he did because I think Troy Aikman said he saw
Speaker 1: Luck last year and he's great a year as he
Speaker 1: had last year he was miserable. And then these are
Speaker 1: the words of of uh Toroy Aikman. Just because of
Speaker 1: the physical wearing Terry taken the game six and a
Speaker 1: half and seven. It looks like the guys that did
Speaker 1: have seven and got taken off them from Oakland. I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying about. Indian does tend to play
Speaker 1: a lot of close games. Uh, it looks like they
Speaker 1: are taking the seven. I see the places that are up.
Speaker 1: I probably opened six and a half here. Uh, I
Speaker 1: might open seven enough. I see it around them in
Speaker 1: the open seven. Just take up that and go down.
Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm not very impressed with Oakland, very
Speaker 1: very inconsistent. And like I said, I think this Colts team,
Speaker 1: they finally have a really good lineup besides the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a pretty darn good team right now.
Speaker 1: And I thought they should win. I thought they were
Speaker 1: gonna win by more than three. Yesterday. It wanted up
Speaker 1: being a really really big game for us because all
Speaker 1: the steam was on Atlanta. But the first bet that
Speaker 1: we took was at at three. Uh So, anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open seven, I think, but I reserved the right
Speaker 1: to go to six and a half if I see
Speaker 1: it going. By the way, going back to that Baltimore
Speaker 1: Cleveland game, I see some more guys opening up and
Speaker 1: they're opening up six, So I'm gonna try to stay
Speaker 1: ahead of that one. So you're at what what were
Speaker 1: you at six or six and a half? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: At bottom, I was at six because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of five and a half. I'm gonna open six,
Speaker 1: and I may go higher so it won't be under
Speaker 1: six at the promise seven to the Colts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get seven on that. So we're back to the
Speaker 1: Colts and I'm gonna I think I'm gonna open seven
Speaker 1: and take a bet because I see it dropping. But
Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm I opened seven and take a bet.
Speaker 1: I like the seven good guesses from Young Gil so
Speaker 1: far this morning, and even when I'm off, I kind
Speaker 1: of like them. Still. We'll come back. We got more
Speaker 1: games to get to a whole bunch, just two teams
Speaker 1: on buy and then story Time, the return of story Time,
Speaker 1: Never told, never written from Chris Andrews right here on
Speaker 1: the Numbers game at Visa. Welcome back to a Numbers
Speaker 1: game with Jill Alexander. Oh I bet Todd wish never
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of grievances on Wednesday. Every every
Speaker 1: Football Sunday produces them. That's for sure. We're guessing lines
Speaker 1: week four. It's kill Alexander. J b is here for
Speaker 1: Jeff Parlay and Chrissie Andrews from l A. What's the
Speaker 1: next one? Chris Kansas City at Detroit, Kansas City three
Speaker 1: and oh um, what a bad beat that was on
Speaker 1: the Chiefs yesterday. I'm still bitter about it, but they're
Speaker 1: three and oh um. Patrick Mahomes is just on another level.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven thirty seven for three seventy four yesterday, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, Uh. They outgained Baltimore five oh three to
Speaker 1: four fifty five hundred three yards of offense. Uh. Thirteen
Speaker 1: games now from the homes of at least three hundred
Speaker 1: yards passing in his first twenty games. That broke Kurt
Speaker 1: Warners mark for the most in the first twenty games
Speaker 1: of a career. Chiefs have scored twenty six or more
Speaker 1: points in an NFL record twenty four straight regular season games.
Speaker 1: Good lord, they're at Detroit. Detroit is undefeated as well.
Speaker 1: There two oh and one. Ah. Yes, that Arizona tie.
Speaker 1: Another bad beat. Some of us were all, but Detroit
Speaker 1: got it done. As we mentioned earlier against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they got a special teams touch on Jamal Agnew returning
Speaker 1: a kickoff a hundred yards for score. Lions held on
Speaker 1: and I do mean held on for victory over the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones six catches a hundred one for a touchdown
Speaker 1: and a touchdown as well. I'll say Casey on the
Speaker 1: road by seven, Chris, Uh, it's six and a half
Speaker 1: juice on the favorite, seven juice on the dog. Of course,
Speaker 1: here at South Point, we don't open anything with the
Speaker 1: juice or angel eleven and I'm gonna open seven. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in front of this Kansas City train.
Speaker 1: Um and I can say that Detroit and I know
Speaker 1: they're too oh and one. And then they seemed like
Speaker 1: they've been a little lucky this year too so and
Speaker 1: they ran into Philly with a ton of injuries. So
Speaker 1: did Detroit win or did Philly lose? I think it's
Speaker 1: more Philly lost. Kansas City. You're right, they have probably
Speaker 1: a pretty bad beat. If you had the chief yesterday,
Speaker 1: I had the raven so in, you know, in a
Speaker 1: couple of contests on the complaint. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City seven is a good place to start.
Speaker 1: If they take me down, that's fine. That a good
Speaker 1: public will be in Kansas City. Thank the public a
Speaker 1: part of you. Right, This is a really really good team,
Speaker 1: really really good team. It's just a simplest it gets
Speaker 1: what it's so true. Guessing lines Week four Here on
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Speaker 1: new England at Buffalo New England and Buffalo, New England
Speaker 1: three and oh New England. Another win very easily done yesterday,
Speaker 1: this time for New England against the Luke Falk led
Speaker 1: New York Jets. They went at thirty to four. Team
Speaker 1: they didn't cover because because Jared's Diidham came in the
Speaker 1: game throw a pick six on his third pass, and
Speaker 1: they reinserted Tom Tom Brady into the game. Belichick is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of it, you Brady. Forty six for
Speaker 1: three oh six, two touchdowns, no picks. They've outscored opponents. Now,
Speaker 1: even after having given up fourteen yesterday, one on the
Speaker 1: pick six, one touchdown on the pick six, They've outscored
Speaker 1: opponents one oh six to seventeen this year. Held Luke
Speaker 1: Falk to nine yards passing twenty one to six advantage
Speaker 1: in first downs against the Jets. Jets were oh for
Speaker 1: twelve on third down. They held the Jets to a
Speaker 1: hundred five total yards. They sacked Falk five times. The
Speaker 1: Jets punted on ten of their last thirteen possessions. Excuse
Speaker 1: me of their of their entire thirteen possessions in the game.
Speaker 1: You get the idea. James White missed the game yesterday
Speaker 1: was with his expectant wife Julian. Edelman left the game
Speaker 1: with about a minute to play in the in uh
Speaker 1: I believe it was the third quarter. Was it with
Speaker 1: a chest injury. Didn't return. Patriots first team in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl era that hasn't allowed a rushing or passing
Speaker 1: touchdown in their first three games. Good Lord, and then
Speaker 1: there's Buffalo. Buffalo was up fourteen to nothing on the Bengals.
Speaker 1: They squandered that lead. They trailed seventeen fourteen, but they
Speaker 1: got it done at the end. Got it done a
Speaker 1: hundred seventy five yards on the ground for the Bills.
Speaker 1: They improved a three and over the first time since
Speaker 1: only the third time they've done that in twenty six years.
Speaker 1: Dawson knocks their tight end huge play late in that
Speaker 1: game on the what eventually was the game winning drive.
Speaker 1: He also had a touchdown earlier in the game, his
Speaker 1: first touchdown since junior high school in Tennessee. Good Lord.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen thirty six to forty three, one touchdown, one pick.
Speaker 1: He was nearly picked off, though. We talked about guys
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins who get fortunate with balls bouncing off
Speaker 1: defender's chest. Josh Allen yesterday was nearly picked off two
Speaker 1: more times, almost lost a fumble before being ruldy was
Speaker 1: out of bound. So the bill is very fortunate as well.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget about those plays. So three and oh
Speaker 1: at three and oh, and again we're talking New England
Speaker 1: and this is sort of the converse of Miami. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to make these lines, Chrissie. These are
Speaker 1: tough New England on the road. I would say it's
Speaker 1: at Buffalo. I guess minus ten would be my guess. Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't quite like your number, but I don't like
Speaker 1: the number that's out there right now. It's mostly seven
Speaker 1: really or seven a half with juice on the dog.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open seven alf last. Yeah, yeah, And you know,
Speaker 1: and I end a feeling that wise guys will come
Speaker 1: in on Buffalo. The boy you talk about lucky, I
Speaker 1: mean Buffalo. I think there's been extremely lucky so far
Speaker 1: in this year. And there are three and oh you
Speaker 1: know listening. You can only do what you gotta do
Speaker 1: to win games, and they've done that. But I think
Speaker 1: this team has been pretty darn lucky in New England.
Speaker 1: I think this is uh a pretty good version of
Speaker 1: this team that has already won six Super Bowls. So
Speaker 1: you know, I ye know, I talked about not I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in front of that Kansas City train.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to get in front of
Speaker 1: this New England train either, even though they didn't cover yesterday,
Speaker 1: but I mean, come on, they selept walk feedback games.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what's interesting about that, It's
Speaker 1: pretty funny. I gotta tell you. I looked on this.
Speaker 1: This This gets back to our New England at Miami
Speaker 1: discussion a couple of weeks ago. Again, when on guessing
Speaker 1: lines you had you said it was sixteen and a half.
Speaker 1: I had guess seventeen and a half, and I immediately said,
Speaker 1: give me, give me the Pagriots, give me the page.
Speaker 1: If it's sixteen and a half, give me The Pagriots
Speaker 1: immediately came to me and went through me and ended
Speaker 1: up nineteen a half. I feel the same exact way
Speaker 1: about this, which is at that time you said the
Speaker 1: wise guys will probably take Miami, and I said, at
Speaker 1: that time, and I'll say the same thing about the
Speaker 1: wise guys taking Buffalo here that is nothing but muscle memory.
Speaker 1: And too cool for school. That's how I feel about that.
Speaker 1: Give me New England all day at that number seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Please, I'm the opening seven and a half,
Speaker 1: but we have some friends of ours who have seven.
Speaker 1: Let me put that way. Okay, alright, number, Let's do
Speaker 1: one more here real quick before the break. Tennessee Adamtlanta,
Speaker 1: al right, not much to say about this. Tennessee will
Speaker 1: be on extra rest. They're one and two off that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville debacle. Marcus Mariotta, I've never been a fan of him,
Speaker 1: and he right again for three oh four sounds good,
Speaker 1: but he was sacked nine times, and in the first half,
Speaker 1: when the game mattered, he was six of sixteen for
Speaker 1: sixty two. Tennessee also had nine penalties for a hundred
Speaker 1: one yards. Rabel strange decision not to kick a field
Speaker 1: goal with over eleven minutes left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: down fourteen and nothing, very very odd. And then Atlanta,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned yesterday, they lost to the The Colts
Speaker 1: made it close. Matt Ryan twenty thirty four for three
Speaker 1: or four, three touchdowns, one pick, Julio eight a great
Speaker 1: touchdown catch. Uh. They were eight of ten on third downs.
Speaker 1: Were the Falcons, but Chris six team penalties for a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight yards. Good lord, I'll say Atlanta minus.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be somewhere between. It's not a three
Speaker 1: and it's not a seven, so I'll put it in there.
Speaker 1: I'll say it's four and a half in favor of Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see four and a half and five. I'm not
Speaker 1: open four and a half. Yeah, I think Tennessee with
Speaker 1: a little bit of extra rest. Boy, you know, I
Speaker 1: was slow to get off of Mariotta, but I think
Speaker 1: you're right now. And this is his uh free agent year.
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, you know, I don't see them, but
Speaker 1: he's signing again. But I mean, who knows. Um, I
Speaker 1: like four and a half and you know, you look back.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan actually played a pretty good game this day.
Speaker 1: Even though they were they were down, they lost by three,
Speaker 1: it's pretty they still pretty darn good. But I like,
Speaker 1: I'm not that I like Atlanta, but I like four
Speaker 1: and a half for a number here. I think that's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna go with her and Keane O'Neil, safety
Speaker 1: for the Falcons, carted off the field late in the
Speaker 1: first half with achilles tendon injury. Remember he missed last
Speaker 1: season after tearing an a c l in the season open.
Speaker 1: The poor guy just terrible injury. Luck for him, all right, Chrissy,
Speaker 1: Let's sneak one more in here. Tampa Bay at the Rams,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. At the Rams Tampa Bay. As we mentioned,
Speaker 1: they lose thirty two to thirty one yesterday to the Giants.
Speaker 1: Um Man Mike Evans eight catches, a hundred ninety yards,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, seven for one forty six and those three
Speaker 1: touchdowns of the first half. But Matt gave their new
Speaker 1: kicker Tampa um It's a new kicker for the Bucks
Speaker 1: for the eighth straight season, Chris. That's incredible. Eight straight
Speaker 1: years with a new kicker. He was the fifth round
Speaker 1: pick from you till he might have another new one
Speaker 1: next week. But he missed two extra boys yesterday, and then,
Speaker 1: of course he missed the potential game winner thirty four
Speaker 1: yard or that sailed wide right as time expired. Did
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians He took a delay of game there too.
Speaker 1: Didn't need to push it back if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah. In his news conference afterwards, he thought
Speaker 1: the delay of game in the extra five yards where
Speaker 1: to help his kicker. Boy, I'd like to see some
Speaker 1: numbers around that decision because I love Arians. I think
Speaker 1: he's a great coach, But boy, I do not understand
Speaker 1: that philosophy. Rams, as we mentioned, beat the Browns. Just
Speaker 1: so there it is Greg omen on Twitter, Bruce Arian
Speaker 1: says he took the delay penalty on purpose in final minute,
Speaker 1: thinking Matt Gabe was better from a longer distance. Not
Speaker 1: so much Rams beat the Browns. As we talked about
Speaker 1: Rams m v P. Cooper Cup, we said that all
Speaker 1: past year, Levin catches the hundred two yards two touched
Speaker 1: and the Rams one minus two in turnovers. I'll say
Speaker 1: the Rams touchdown seems light. I'll say minus seven and
Speaker 1: a half. Hosting the Bucks. Yeah, you know it's ten
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not sure I like your number, but
Speaker 1: I think it tends too high. You know. I know,
Speaker 1: Tampa baby of the game yesterday, Winston has improved, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it does go to Bruce Arians.
Speaker 1: And listen, you know he Winston fits the profile of
Speaker 1: an Arians quarterback. He helped Andrew Luck, he helped Ben Roethlisberger,
Speaker 1: he helped Carson Palmer. Now you've got a big, strong
Speaker 1: kid here, Jamis Winston. I think he's gonna help. Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston and I know a couple of guys to eating
Speaker 1: me yesterday because I said that, actually he's getting better. Christie,
Speaker 1: I hate didn't gotta run, will come back. We'll continue
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Speaker 1: I hope your Week three of the NFL was a
Speaker 1: good one. Week four is what Chrissie and I Chris
Speaker 1: Andrews and Ivy sports book director here at the south
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Speaker 1: hopefully some value. Gil and Chris guessing lines Week four. Chrissy,
Speaker 1: before the break there, I rudely interrupted you with commercials,
Speaker 1: so I do apologize, but basically what we've got going
Speaker 1: here is I've been pretty spot on on the shorter numbers,
Speaker 1: but when they get large, i've been way off. And
Speaker 1: this was one of them. We left at the break,
Speaker 1: and so I wanted you to get to finish your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. I guess the Rams mind is seven
Speaker 1: and a half hosting the Bucks and you said it's ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna open ten just because that's all I see.
Speaker 1: But I really kind of like get lower, to tell
Speaker 1: you the truth, I think, like I said Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: I think it's getting better. Jamis Winston getting better. And
Speaker 1: the Aerans are good coach and uh just in the Rams,
Speaker 1: and they are obviously a really good team, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that they're a blowout kind of team, at
Speaker 1: least not at this point. And you know, laying ten,
Speaker 1: you have to blow the other team out, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure they have the right now. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take I like Tampa Bay with with the ten, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open at dads, but if I see Lower, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go down. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Rams are a blowout type of team.
Speaker 1: Yet they did blow up the Saints, but that was
Speaker 1: without Drew Brees. Mid game, I mentioned Cooper Cup yesterday
Speaker 1: eleven for one oh two, two touchdowns versus the Brownies.
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks eight for one, twelve rams or minus two
Speaker 1: and turn over. Still won the game. Todd Gurley, though, Chris,
Speaker 1: we'll wrap it up this game on this Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: fourteen carries forty three yards. I'm sorry, but I don't
Speaker 1: care what anybody tells me. That's a thing, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's a load management thing with him right the
Speaker 1: arthritic knee. We've never gotten a point blank, straight explanation
Speaker 1: that this is what they're doing. But this is exactly
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And so that's that's a huge loss
Speaker 1: for them in the wash, you know. So yeah, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: they used the number one first round drafts voice on
Speaker 1: the guy, and you paid him a ton of money.
Speaker 1: And not that I care what guys make money wise,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's billionaires, you know, can a certainly affording,
Speaker 1: but it does affect the salary cap and where else
Speaker 1: you can spend money for some help on that team.
Speaker 1: So the team is very, very good, but they're they're
Speaker 1: certainly not flawless. And uh, you know, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: beat somebody in the NFL by more than ten, you've
Speaker 1: been already pretty close to flawless. You know, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna beat that number. Yeah, and you're right,
Speaker 1: jamis good. Good day. Yesterday three or thirty seven for three,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and the pick to yards of offense for
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in defeat. Now are these afternoon games? That
Speaker 1: was that an afternoon game? The Rams Bucks game. That
Speaker 1: was the first of the afternoon games. Yeah, let's do
Speaker 1: the rest of them. What do you got next? Seat
Speaker 1: at Arizona, Seattle, the Arizona. Well, I can't get the
Speaker 1: I can't get the Seahawks right because I was against
Speaker 1: him when I had the Steelers, I was for them.
Speaker 1: Yesterday they got rolled by Teddy Bridgewater and the Saints
Speaker 1: final score, by the way, very cosmetic. Uh, this game
Speaker 1: was not at all as close as the uh twenty
Speaker 1: excuse me, thirty three to twenty seven final score, garbage toucheddown,
Speaker 1: I mean with the clock expired for Seattle yesterday, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson thirty two of fifty for four oh six, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: No picks, but again cosmetic in nature, a lot of
Speaker 1: that just in catchup mode. Tyler Lockett eleven for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: five and fifteen total yards of offense for the man
Speaker 1: for the Mariners. For the Seahawks, they had been fifteen
Speaker 1: and oh at home since September of no longer, and
Speaker 1: they had Jadeveon Clowne and Zigianza in the lineup for
Speaker 1: the first time on the defensive line. Not really much
Speaker 1: zero sacks, only two quarterback hits um plus some bad
Speaker 1: clock management. You see the sequence at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half, Chris, where yeah, they Seattle got the
Speaker 1: ball with twenty nine seconds left two time outs. They
Speaker 1: chose not to use the time out after a nine
Speaker 1: yard pass to display the tight end, and then Wilson
Speaker 1: uh took the next snap with ten seconds left. After
Speaker 1: Scrambley hits dk metcal for fifty four yards to the
Speaker 1: st sixteen. Seattle frantically attempted to call time out, and
Speaker 1: the refs are like, no, sorry, zero glad, you guys
Speaker 1: still have your two time outs left. So Seattle loses that.
Speaker 1: But they're at Arizona. Arizona's O two and one. Arizona,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned it, be going away by Carolina Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray thirty forty three for one seventy three, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks, sacked eight times though eight times for sixty
Speaker 1: nine yards um. And again the thing this is for
Speaker 1: fantasy players. Opposing tight ends are crushing Arizona, so this
Speaker 1: is another game. Greg Olson six catches seventy five yards.
Speaker 1: Detroit's T J. Hockenson he had six catches for one
Speaker 1: thirty one. Mark Andrews of the Ravens eight for once
Speaker 1: one twelve first week of the season. I believe it
Speaker 1: was where that was last weekend rather so tight ends
Speaker 1: are killing them. All of that to say that it's Arizona.
Speaker 1: So Seattle is still gonna be favored. And I want
Speaker 1: to say a fill those lights, so I'll say three
Speaker 1: and a half Seattle on the road, I see one,
Speaker 1: three and a half mostly four. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I like four and a half here, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open a four and a half and take a bet
Speaker 1: on Arizona. They'll probably beat me. But that's okay. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things I do not like about Arizona.
Speaker 1: Number one, the coach, you know, I just see a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I disagree with and Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I root for all these young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I really do. I want them to do well because
Speaker 1: I want to see the league do well. It doesn't
Speaker 1: do me any good if the league stinks, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to see the league be great. You know,
Speaker 1: just promotes a lot of betting. But I never I
Speaker 1: thought Tyler Murray has a first round draft choice? Was
Speaker 1: the number one draft choice? Was just a mistake. He's
Speaker 1: two little and you know, he throws up some numbers yesterday.
Speaker 1: I know, if you look at this percentage, it was terrific.
Speaker 1: But how many yards did he have on you know,
Speaker 1: through the air? Not many? And he got sacked what
Speaker 1: was it six times? I mean, he's just too little
Speaker 1: and he you know, this guy is just not gonna last.
Speaker 1: And they comparing the Russell Wilson because Russell Wilson's kind
Speaker 1: of smallish hype live. But Russell Wilson is a strong man.
Speaker 1: Just look at this guy. He's solid. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I I know I had New Orleans yesterday. I liked
Speaker 1: them a lot, But Russell Wilson is fantastic. I just
Speaker 1: love the kid, and I think they rebound after that loss,
Speaker 1: I think they go in I really like Seattle on
Speaker 1: this spot. I'm gonna open four and a half and
Speaker 1: certainly take a bet. I'm sure they'll bet me on
Speaker 1: the dog, but I think Seattle is definitely the right
Speaker 1: side here. Kyler Murray sacked eight times just to clarify
Speaker 1: on that game yesterday against Carolina, and I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I like Seattle here. I was a little light that
Speaker 1: I guess at the three and a half. I love
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson absolutely, absolutely do. Someone asked me, my buddy,
Speaker 1: Tim loss, It asked me yesterday Goes, could you please
Speaker 1: say on your show how anybody can figure this sport
Speaker 1: out any of these NFL teams out from week to week.
Speaker 1: Seattle is a great example of that. Right beat Cincinnati
Speaker 1: by one point first week of the season, as nine
Speaker 1: point favorites go into Pittsburgh beat the Steelers. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't think much of the Steelers anymore. And then
Speaker 1: yesterday really lay an egg against New Orleans. New Orleans,
Speaker 1: of course, had two touchdowns that were not offensive. Right,
Speaker 1: They had a I believe a fumble return for a
Speaker 1: touchdown and a punt return for a touch And if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, so that certainly helped the cause. Alright,
Speaker 1: so Seattle minus four and a half, that's where you're
Speaker 1: opening that one. I'm an open four and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is this is one. I have a strong opinion.
Speaker 1: I like Seattle coming off a loss in Arizona. A
Speaker 1: lot of problems there, a lot of problems, a lot
Speaker 1: of problems. Indeed, all right, let's do one more here,
Speaker 1: Let's do a couple more. What do you got? Minnesota
Speaker 1: at Chicago, Minnesota at Chicago, NFC north UM alright, Sonnesota esterday.
Speaker 1: By the way, Minnesota two and one. Chicago has not
Speaker 1: played yet. They're playing tonight against the Redskins. As we mentioned,
Speaker 1: five and a half point now five and a half
Speaker 1: point road favorites at the Morgue that is FedEx Field.
Speaker 1: They'll be at least twenty thousand Bears fans at FedEx tonight.
Speaker 1: Minnesota yesterday uh crushed the Raiders. Dalvin Cook sixteen carries
Speaker 1: a hundred ten yards and a touchdown. He goes past
Speaker 1: the hundred yard mark for the third straight game this year. Remember,
Speaker 1: he missed nineteen of his first thirty four games in
Speaker 1: the NFL to a torn a c l as a
Speaker 1: rookie and then with a nagging hamstring last year. Vikings
Speaker 1: total rushed for two hundred eleven yards yesterday and kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins turnover free. That's the main thing with Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: fifteen of twenty one for one seventy four one touchdown
Speaker 1: note picks, and the Vikings did not even attempt a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter pass for the second time in two home games,
Speaker 1: the other one being against the Falcons. Not a single
Speaker 1: pass attempt in the fourth quarter. Uh sack free game
Speaker 1: for the first time. By the way, in kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: Vikings career, Chicago site un scene again borrowing something outlining tonight.
Speaker 1: I will say Chicago because they're the home team division game,
Speaker 1: they will be the favorite. But I won't make it
Speaker 1: the full three. I'll say minus two and a half
Speaker 1: a Trabinsky discount. It's mostly two and a half. I
Speaker 1: see one too. I'm gonna open to two and a half.
Speaker 1: I spent Chicago to look decent tonight. Certainly their defense
Speaker 1: and this is listen, at this point in time, they're defensible,
Speaker 1: riented team. The Trabinsky You know, boy, they trained up
Speaker 1: to get this guy. But I don't know. That doesn't
Speaker 1: look like that was a good move. But their defense
Speaker 1: is fantastic in Minnesota. I'm very impressed. And I'm not
Speaker 1: a big Cousins guy, not crazy about them. The boy
Speaker 1: the rest of that lineup I make it's very very strong.
Speaker 1: So there's a very good team. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: think Cousins can hold them back a little bit, almost
Speaker 1: the same with Chicago, but I really think Minnesota's, you know,
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster is a little bit better. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open to and a half. I think that's
Speaker 1: an okay number. See where they want to take me
Speaker 1: from there, but you know, we'll see a lot tonight.
Speaker 1: I think out of Chicago, Viking still chasing the case
Speaker 1: Keenum quarterback high from two years ago with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: By the way, Chrissy, let me just say this, my
Speaker 1: guess is on the short line, very good, very solid.
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of them, but again, way off on
Speaker 1: the big ones. Let's do uh the last you said,
Speaker 1: this is the last of the afternoon games. Last of
Speaker 1: the afternoon games. Jacksonville at Denver. All right, Jacksonville and Denver.
Speaker 1: Let me just say right off the top that has
Speaker 1: to be three. There's nothing else you can make this game.
Speaker 1: We'll find out a minute. Jacksonville's extra rest here they're
Speaker 1: coming off the Tennessee win. Gardner minshook mania for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: He was twenty thirty two oh four in that game.
Speaker 1: Two touchdows, no picks. He has a seventy completion percentage,
Speaker 1: which is the highest in any quarterback's first three career
Speaker 1: games since the merger minimum minimum seventy five attempts um
Speaker 1: By the way, Jacksonville also did something weird in that
Speaker 1: game we talked about on Friday. They were up thirteen
Speaker 1: late with three left, fourth and goal and they don't
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. They just decided to turn it
Speaker 1: over and downs and complete past. That was odd Denver
Speaker 1: yesterday though, the Flacco face, it's a real thing. He
Speaker 1: was sacked six times at green Bay yesterday. They were
Speaker 1: minus three in turnovers and for the third straight game,
Speaker 1: perhaps more notably, Von Miller, Bradley Chubb, Denver defense fails
Speaker 1: to record a sack or force a turnover. Wow. That
Speaker 1: I mean that more than anything is the damning thing
Speaker 1: about the uh, the Broncos. You probably you know, some
Speaker 1: people would expect what they're getting from Flaccope, that's the
Speaker 1: real shocker. But it's gotta be Denver at O N three.
Speaker 1: They've got to be a three point favorite here, right
Speaker 1: and I can see that Denver defense crushing Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah it's three, and you know, like you're
Speaker 1: one for Nacy. How does anybody figure out in the NFL?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this looks like one of those
Speaker 1: spots where Denver's looks so bad and now they're coming
Speaker 1: home against the hottest quarterback in the league. Of course
Speaker 1: they'll win the game. And when else's gonna happen in
Speaker 1: the NFL? So yeah, I think three is a good number. Actually,
Speaker 1: actually three with some juice on the favorite, uh, three
Speaker 1: is a good place to start. Like I said, we
Speaker 1: do everything at eleven and tad here, so if they
Speaker 1: dent me up and I think the wise guys just
Speaker 1: have a feeling will be on Denver in this game.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna open three. I think that's an okay number.
Speaker 1: But I think right now, Denver's probably the right side
Speaker 1: in this game. Despite them being owen three and talking
Speaker 1: about coaching question marks, you know, Fangio so far has
Speaker 1: not impressed me as a as the head coach, although
Speaker 1: he certainly was a hell of a defensive coordinator for
Speaker 1: a long time. But then Placo has not to say
Speaker 1: he's not looked good as a huge understatement. But you know,
Speaker 1: they'll probably win this game. I think they probably will.
Speaker 1: Not like Denver here, but I'm gonna open three. So
Speaker 1: it is three, and I I like this game, Christie,
Speaker 1: as much as any game we've gone through. I like
Speaker 1: Denver giving the points. I may live to as soon
Speaker 1: as I see the flag of face. I yeah, I
Speaker 1: like half open three. But I also think ye, both
Speaker 1: things are true. All right, So we're just up to
Speaker 1: the prime time games. We've done all the rest of them. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's take a break. Let's do the two primetime
Speaker 1: games at Sunday night and Monday night, and then after
Speaker 1: that the return of story time. Chris Andrews on a
Speaker 1: numbers game right here in Vison. Welcome back to a
Speaker 1: numbers game with Alexander. By the way, another MLB brain
Speaker 1: Dead parlay winner this past Friday on the show. Just
Speaker 1: went through the south Point desk and cash that one.
Speaker 1: Nothing today because it's only five games, so no parlay
Speaker 1: day and by the way, the brain dead parlay is
Speaker 1: probably gonna last maybe two or three more days. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna go into the final weekend with him because
Speaker 1: then there's all kinds of teams sitting all kinds of players,
Speaker 1: So it might be the last couple of days that.
Speaker 1: But it's been fun doing those None today with just
Speaker 1: a five games late, let's return two guessing lines for
Speaker 1: week four. By the way, Christie dos, anybody come up
Speaker 1: to your counter and go, I'd like an MLB brain
Speaker 1: dead parlay? Anybody doing that yet? But I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I wish you wanted to tell everybody, Well, there it
Speaker 1: is corroboration. I always appreciate, appreciate that. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to let's go to Sunday night, sir. What do
Speaker 1: we got Sunday night? We got a good one. Sunday night,
Speaker 1: Dallas at the Saints. Oh, that is a good one.
Speaker 1: And it's also a good one because it's a it'll
Speaker 1: be an interesting guess and what the actual line will be.
Speaker 1: So Dallas wins again, right, they cover, They beat and
Speaker 1: cover ultimately against the Dolphins, probably should have trailed at
Speaker 1: the half, but ultimately cover that game against the Dolphins
Speaker 1: Dallas is three and oh zeke yesterday nineteen Pollard thirteen
Speaker 1: for one oh three to touchdown a Maori six catches
Speaker 1: eight eight yards to Touchdow's four hundred seventy six total
Speaker 1: yards of offends. You get the idea, uh Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: first Dallas team in forty one years to win its
Speaker 1: first two games while rolling up at least four hundred yards. Now,
Speaker 1: now it's the first three games and at least thirty
Speaker 1: points each time. And so that's the first time they're
Speaker 1: three and o since two thousand and eight. But and
Speaker 1: let me just say the butt they've beaten the Giants,
Speaker 1: the Redskins in the Dolphins. Is that correct? Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: so that's a big butt. Let's throw that into the equation.
Speaker 1: The Saints, Yes, yeah, Saints yesterday Bridgewater because remember Sean
Speaker 1: Payton was being kind of coy, a little bit of teddy,
Speaker 1: a little bit of tastom. It was all Teddy nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty seven for one seventy seven, two touchdowns. Note Picks
Speaker 1: three years removed from a knee injury that nearly ended
Speaker 1: his career. As his first win as a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: since January of sixteen, the final week of the season,
Speaker 1: so everybody's pumped for Teddy Bridgewater. Good for him. Alvin
Speaker 1: Camara sixteen carry sixty nine yards, touchdown, nine catches ninety
Speaker 1: two and a touchdown against the Seahawks, but eleven penalties
Speaker 1: for seventy yards for the Saints yesterday, they did get
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, touchdowns on defense and on special team
Speaker 1: Tames that was probably the key to the whole things.
Speaker 1: Took some pressure off Teddy uh Deonte Harris with a
Speaker 1: punt return fifty three yards for scoring the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Von Bell picking up Chris Carson's third lost fumble in
Speaker 1: three games fum politis for Chris Carson returned at three
Speaker 1: thirty three yards rather for a touchdown in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: So Dallas three and oh. But having played nobody at
Speaker 1: New Orleans two and one with Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback
Speaker 1: at the Super Dome, I'm gonna split the difference here
Speaker 1: between a pick them and three, and I'll say it's
Speaker 1: New Orleans minus one and a half. And as I
Speaker 1: say that, I embraced for a horrible guess. It's a
Speaker 1: horrible guest, but you know I'm with you, and it's
Speaker 1: it's three with juice on the favorite Dallas three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh give me the Saints, give me, say give me
Speaker 1: say wrong team favor. I really thought this game should
Speaker 1: be a pick them. But you know, everybody loves Dallas.
Speaker 1: I have never hidden my man love for Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: I love the kid. I think, boy, what a costly
Speaker 1: injury he had, But you know he had a chance
Speaker 1: to work with with Peyton, who I think it is
Speaker 1: a very good coach and I think it's really going
Speaker 1: to get the best out of them. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a great spot for the Saint and
Speaker 1: like you know, the button you sent on Dallas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a huge but you know they've kicked the butts of
Speaker 1: some awful teams and uh, they're going in to New
Speaker 1: Orleans on a Sunday night. Well, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough spot for for Dallas and
Speaker 1: I love I like New Orleans a lot in this game.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna open three and because they're gonna probably
Speaker 1: lay me the three and that's fine, they can have it,
Speaker 1: because I want to have New Orleans going for me
Speaker 1: next Sunday night to be. I love New Orleans. There, Wow,
Speaker 1: Dallas by three on the road at New World, I
Speaker 1: get into Steady Bridgewater. But that that atmosphere, man, all right,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a fascinating one. What's Monday? Datty? And
Speaker 1: he didn't look great yesterday, but he looked good, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, another week with with Peyton coaching him,
Speaker 1: and you know's a lot of a lot of weapons
Speaker 1: on that team. But I'd like New Orleans and I
Speaker 1: hope Petty has a good career. I really do. That's
Speaker 1: a kid that I want. Sean Payton versus Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: Let me just throw that out as well. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: very very good point, very good point. Monday night, Uh,
Speaker 1: Monday Cincinnati at Pittsburgh. Well we have we have a
Speaker 1: good Thursday. I gave, we have a good Sunday. I
Speaker 1: gave I guess month Monday had to be sacrificed. Oh
Speaker 1: that's oh and three verses? Oh and three, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I have a really really good friends. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'd be listening if he's the enditor of the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Paper newspaper. Greek guy lived in Reno for a while.
Speaker 1: Really good friends. We usually have a bet on these games.
Speaker 1: And boy We're gonna really cry to each other this week,
Speaker 1: you know. But our both our teams look horrible. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's that's the matchup for Sunday per Monday
Speaker 1: Night again. Oh M three teams four in one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty. In terms of making the playoffs, only four
Speaker 1: teams that have started oh M three sixteen game schedule
Speaker 1: have made the playoffs in history. Cincinnati yesterday against the Bills,
Speaker 1: Remember they were down fourteen and nothing, that came back
Speaker 1: to lead at seventeen and fourteen, only to lose at
Speaker 1: the end. They had four turnovers yesterday did the Bengals?
Speaker 1: They do cover got that one? I mean at the
Speaker 1: Bengals on the road twice now as as dogs, so
Speaker 1: they do get the cover. Um. But the Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: offense combined for ninety yards and three first downs on
Speaker 1: its first nine possessions. Let me said again, first nine possessions,
Speaker 1: ninety total yards and three first downs. Then, as I said,
Speaker 1: came alive, scored seventeen points on three consecutive possessions spanning
Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarters. Uh they had third and
Speaker 1: five at Buffalo's twenty eight twenty seconds left and Micah
Speaker 1: Hide tipping Andy Dalton's pass and tended for autumn eight
Speaker 1: over the middle ball was intercepted by your Dave is White,
Speaker 1: Katie bar the door and then your Steelers. Um, this
Speaker 1: was amazing yesterday. This was an in game bet on
Speaker 1: the Niners for me. Yesterday the Niners were down four
Speaker 1: in turnovers and we're trailing six to three. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: They were minus four in turnovers at one point yesterday
Speaker 1: and the Niners were trailing six to three. So I
Speaker 1: was all in on the Niners at that point. And
Speaker 1: by the way, it barely got there. Uh, they're the
Speaker 1: Niners to win that. Uh. Teams, by the way, who
Speaker 1: are minus four. It ended up being minus three on
Speaker 1: the Niners. But just for folks who who want to
Speaker 1: know the stat when when teams are minus four in turnovers,
Speaker 1: they're oh and forty five in history. And I was
Speaker 1: in gaming the Niners because I'm like, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: They're down four turnovers and they're trailing by a field goal.
Speaker 1: For the Niners, it's their first three and o start
Speaker 1: in twenty one years, and they got problems though, I mean,
Speaker 1: they are not a clean team. Uh. Ultimately, as I said,
Speaker 1: minus three for the Niners turnover margin five total turnovers
Speaker 1: UH in their game against Pittsburgh and they bare really
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers. But Mason Rudolf fourteen of twenty seven
Speaker 1: for one seventy four, two touchdowns and a pick. I
Speaker 1: guess you can't be that mad about Mason Rudolph. But
Speaker 1: they were out first down, if you will, twenty six
Speaker 1: to eleven by the Niners. They were out gained four
Speaker 1: thirty six to thirty nine. They were out possessed thirty
Speaker 1: six seventeen to twenty three forty three minutes, that is seconds.
Speaker 1: And the Steelers have their first oh and three start
Speaker 1: since two thousand. I mean Steelers by a field goal.
Speaker 1: I guess, Chris Lazy, guess higher. It's four and a
Speaker 1: half and four, you know, but I'm gonna more. Wow,
Speaker 1: I thought. You know, you talked about Mason Rudolph. You
Speaker 1: know what his qb R was yesterday? Seven seven point seven.
Speaker 1: That's scored out a hundred boys and girls. Yeah, I'm behind.
Speaker 1: Falk from the Jets was the only one. He who
Speaker 1: also was a seven point seven for the two lowest
Speaker 1: qbrs in a day. And yeah, you look at some
Speaker 1: raw numbers without that QB or anything. Rudolph was okay,
Speaker 1: he was terrible. It was awful, and you know, you're angry.
Speaker 1: How can you have you have four turnovers? Can't when
Speaker 1: they can't tease and I had listen. I'm like, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not betting out of my pocket. I've been a
Speaker 1: couple of contests. I had Pittsburgh like on everything and
Speaker 1: we covered, you know, thank god. But boy, they looked
Speaker 1: just awful. You know, I'm gonna open four, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I see four, am four and a half. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open four, you know, I mean, boy, they just they
Speaker 1: look terrible. The only you know, Cincinnati at least it's coming.
Speaker 1: By the way, that Bengal game. It was a horrible
Speaker 1: game for the book yesterday because we had a ton
Speaker 1: of moneyline action on Buffalo and I've kind of action
Speaker 1: on Cincinnati plus six. So it fell right in the
Speaker 1: middle there there as this result for US. Uh. But
Speaker 1: you know, since the no grade shakes that, boy, I
Speaker 1: guess Pittsburgh four is okay, but anything that might be
Speaker 1: a little bit high. I don't know, Bason Rudolph. I'd
Speaker 1: liked them coming out of college, you know, I'd liked
Speaker 1: them so far, but man, he looked, he looked just
Speaker 1: awful yesterday, just awful. Just forgive me for giggling, but
Speaker 1: could you could you really say what you really feel about? Uh?
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh minus four? I mean I have three. I don't
Speaker 1: see any justification why it's more than three. But okay, um,
Speaker 1: and I've hit the Bengals twice now as road dogs.
Speaker 1: I'm not racing to bet them here either. So it
Speaker 1: is what it is, Pittsburgh minus four. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll review all of it at the end of the show,
Speaker 1: what we like the best or what I like the best,
Speaker 1: and see what Chrissy's reactions are as well. But in
Speaker 1: between now and then, ladies and gentlemen, the return of
Speaker 1: story Time. You're ready to do this after the bake, Chris,
Speaker 1: I am. But let me just say, since we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Bengals, they feature prominently in today's story Time
Speaker 1: feature prominently any other teases has to do with big spreads?
Speaker 1: Is that what you told us? It does? It does?
Speaker 1: It has to do with, you know, in memory of
Speaker 1: one of the big spreads yesterday, and there's some couple
Speaker 1: of well there's one big one this week too, So
Speaker 1: in honor of large spreads never before told or written
Speaker 1: story time coming up with Chris Andrews on a numbers
Speaker 1: game at Visa. Welcome back to a numbers game with
Speaker 1: Jill Alexander. A numbers game brought to you by eight Sleep.
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Speaker 1: For those of you who are just dropping on the
Speaker 1: show for the first time and you're like, what's this
Speaker 1: story time we're talking about, Well, for many years, at
Speaker 1: least three years, Chris Andrews was kind enough to come
Speaker 1: on the Beating the Book podcast that I did and
Speaker 1: still do for so many years. Um, and uh we
Speaker 1: used to do guessing lines on that show. We still do,
Speaker 1: and uh, story time was well, let's put it this way,
Speaker 1: Chris told me a story once we're out at dinner,
Speaker 1: and UM sort of asked Chrissy, Hey, you know, like
Speaker 1: on on the shows, maybe tag shows with you know
Speaker 1: these stories? You probably have so many of them. And
Speaker 1: Chrissy was kind enough to do it for three years.
Speaker 1: And Chris, I'm not exaggerating when I said that, not
Speaker 1: only did a book spawn from this, your great book,
Speaker 1: then one day, which is where your stories seem to
Speaker 1: turn on that phrase, but that no one cared about
Speaker 1: anything else we did besides your stories. After a while, yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of We gave out a lot
Speaker 1: of winners on that show too. By the way, here
Speaker 1: story time. By the way, before you get a book
Speaker 1: plug in, you just had a little one. Please you
Speaker 1: can get my book on Amazon then one day and uh,
Speaker 1: you can find it on my Twitter. I have a
Speaker 1: pin tweet. You can find it there and then it's
Speaker 1: through Amazon. So if you like my stories, and this
Speaker 1: one isn't in the book, but there's a lot, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of good ones in the book. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody asked me you gonna write another one.
Speaker 1: If I write another one, this story will be in it.
Speaker 1: I love it. So usually this is where the woman
Speaker 1: would come in and say, hey, everybody, it's story time.
Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's story time, Chris. The floor is yours. Okay. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the first and probably only time that I
Speaker 1: was involved with somebody or I witnessed them literally go crazy.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean literally like the millennials do when
Speaker 1: they mean figura to believe, but they say literally, I
Speaker 1: mean literally in the literal sense. He went crazy. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's with that. So we had a radio show at
Speaker 1: KELN A good friend of mine, Barry Phillips h still
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. He called me up out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. We didn't know each other. He was a
Speaker 1: radio guy out of the bey Are and he talked
Speaker 1: to me about having a l S show by getting
Speaker 1: the lines that like a handicapping show, will do it
Speaker 1: every Friday, We'll just do the NFL. So you know,
Speaker 1: we did it, and it was and for a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, there's still like an iteration of it that
Speaker 1: KELNVA doesn't hopes by Kenny Barlor now. So it's been
Speaker 1: going on for a long long time. They were Barry
Speaker 1: and I did like the first iteration of the show
Speaker 1: and it changed a little bit over the years. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So we had different people on in that third seat,
Speaker 1: but for a while we had uh my swing ship supervisor.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use his real name, let's just call him.
Speaker 1: Kevin was the third guy to see and it was
Speaker 1: pretty good show that Kevin was like good radio, very volatile,
Speaker 1: very passionate guy. And Kevin was a huge Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: fan and Barry was being from the Bay area. He
Speaker 1: was a huge forty fan. Of course, the Bengals were
Speaker 1: the worst steam in the league for a while and
Speaker 1: the Niners were you know, they went from Joe Montana
Speaker 1: to Steve Um. We had a great dynasty there. So anyway,
Speaker 1: with our m O was, we go to dinner before
Speaker 1: the show every Friday night. The three of us, we
Speaker 1: had dinner, kind of talked about, you know, where the
Speaker 1: lines are gone, with any injuries or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But it was just, you know, kind of a bonding thing.
Speaker 1: So we go to we go to dinner, and we
Speaker 1: go to the show. Okay, so this game here, it
Speaker 1: was a Monday night game. So he goes through the
Speaker 1: Empire schedule of the last game on the schedule Bengal
Speaker 1: at the Niners, and the Niners are twenty four point favorites.
Speaker 1: Huge number, huge number. Is this the one we talked about?
Speaker 1: Just nothing? Is this the one we talked about? It
Speaker 1: was one of the biggest spreads of all time, right,
Speaker 1: was one of the biggest spreads of all times. So
Speaker 1: that is what brought it up. So is where we're
Speaker 1: talking about, Yeah, okay, yeah, great Niner team with Steve
Speaker 1: Young a quarterback against the horrible Bengal team coach by
Speaker 1: David Shula. I can't remember who the quarterback look might
Speaker 1: have been shown. I can't remember anyway, Well, you get
Speaker 1: to the game, so you know, Barry, of course he's
Speaker 1: got like the Niners. And to come to Kevin, he says, well,
Speaker 1: not only is I like the Bengals plus the twenty four,
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals have a great chance to win
Speaker 1: the game. So Barry clearly a joke. We're all three
Speaker 1: of us were friends, or so we thought. Clearly as
Speaker 1: a joke. Barry says, jeez, when we were out to
Speaker 1: dinner today, Uh did you put that white stuff in
Speaker 1: your iced tea? I stick it. It was this sugar.
Speaker 1: But now I could obviously had to be LSD. I mean,
Speaker 1: clearly a joke. He goes crazy on the air. We're
Speaker 1: on the air, we're sitting there, we're live. You know,
Speaker 1: he starts, you know, he like throws papers at Barry.
Speaker 1: He starts cursing, and I mean, I'm pretty much shocked
Speaker 1: what's going on here. I mean, like I said, clearly
Speaker 1: that he goes he goes nuts, and he you know,
Speaker 1: and like I said, Barry, and I'm pretty sure Barry listened.
Speaker 1: Barry kept it together. Like I said, he was a
Speaker 1: real radio guy. He kept it together. Unfortunately, we're at
Speaker 1: the end of the show at this point and he,
Speaker 1: you know, signs off, and I'm not sure everybody out
Speaker 1: there in radio man knew exactly what was going on.
Speaker 1: But I mean, he goes nuts here on the air.
Speaker 1: And so now he storms up. Now he's supposed to
Speaker 1: start your shift. He's my swinshift supervisor. So I is, Kevin,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like, I quit And I don't
Speaker 1: mean the show, I quit the caliva. I'm done with you.
Speaker 1: I'm done with Barry. I've had it, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: And and he storms out. So my one, you know,
Speaker 1: the second thing to me and on swift Eric Brownley Karen,
Speaker 1: as of this moment, you are not with swinging shift manager,
Speaker 1: You're and you know, and uh so, and I mean
Speaker 1: he storms out. I mean I'm like, well, I can't
Speaker 1: believe what I'm witnessing. So anyway, he calls me about
Speaker 1: a day or two later and he says, listen, I apologize,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that. I still quit, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a two weeks notice. And I said,
Speaker 1: Kevin thank you. I appreciate it. But what's done is done.
Speaker 1: I've already promoted Eric, and uh, you know, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna go with that. But I appreciated. Good luck to
Speaker 1: you in the future. Well, he goes nuts again on
Speaker 1: the phone, starts steaming and yelling at me, you know,
Speaker 1: cursing me out. So you know I'm wind you know,
Speaker 1: our conversations over, I hang up. Well, he calls Bill
Speaker 1: mckill and Bill was the president general manager of the Caldever,
Speaker 1: he demands the meeting. He demands the meeting, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Bill meets with him with me in the room,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna sue us for wrongful term and you
Speaker 1: know this whole thing, and how are you gonna sue
Speaker 1: us for wrongful terms? Do you quit? You know you
Speaker 1: got termed because you quit and we have like witnesses
Speaker 1: and every I'm doing you for wrongful term and he
Speaker 1: goes damn. I don't know if he ever got a
Speaker 1: lawyer or not. I really don't know. Anyway, this continues.
Speaker 1: So now this starts a pattern. He starts writing letters
Speaker 1: and lots to the mail. But like you know, Barry
Speaker 1: would come in in the morning and slit under the
Speaker 1: door the marketing department will be a letter from Kevin,
Speaker 1: like like threatening and like insane, and I get him too. Now,
Speaker 1: the sports book obviously was open a lot longer than
Speaker 1: marketing was, so you know, he throws the letters behind
Speaker 1: the counter, and you know, my guy coming into the
Speaker 1: opening in the morning, Hey, I got this envelope for
Speaker 1: my name, and it's like pretty much every day, every day.
Speaker 1: So he comes in about a week later, and he
Speaker 1: had and he had bought a suit, like a cheesy,
Speaker 1: cheesy suit, and he comes in, I'm now in the mafia.
Speaker 1: And you know, you guys are in big trouble. I'm
Speaker 1: in the Mafia's not how the mafia. You know, you're
Speaker 1: not even Italian, that's number one, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: not power. There's not how the mafia work. And you
Speaker 1: don't show up a week later and say I'm in
Speaker 1: the box, ya know. So he's in the mafia, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, were in this cheesy suit. Now another
Speaker 1: week goes by and I'm swear to God this is
Speaker 1: all true. Another week goes by, kid grown a goatee,
Speaker 1: he comes in, he's wearing a turban. I'm a seek warrior. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean get you. And he's a sequel and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking I don't know much about sea warriors, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that's not how it works either. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a searrior. So you know, again, we're getting the
Speaker 1: letters pretty much every day. Me and Barry comes in.
Speaker 1: Another week later. He's got like the long black duster
Speaker 1: on and a black cowboy hat. He's now a Texas Ranger.
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, I mean, I swear to god he
Speaker 1: comes in he's now a trick As Texas Ranger. So okay, finally,
Speaker 1: you know, and like I said, we're getting the letters
Speaker 1: and letters and you know, and they're confirming he's been
Speaker 1: in them. Off, he's a Sea Warrior Texnas Ranger. Now
Speaker 1: kind of like the last iteration of it. He's now
Speaker 1: the Gray Ghost. Now I'm sure you don't I'm sure
Speaker 1: you don't know who the Gray Ghost is. The Gray
Speaker 1: Goat was some guy I want to say named Mosby
Speaker 1: or Mosley something like that, and Kevin claimed that this
Speaker 1: was his great great great Gray Humple who fought for
Speaker 1: the Confederacy during the Civil War. He was the Gray
Speaker 1: Ghost and he had all these raids on northern positions, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And they never taught they never caught the Gray Ghost
Speaker 1: whenever he died whatever, the Union soldiers and you know,
Speaker 1: they never got this guy. So he was now the
Speaker 1: gray Ghost. And by the way, this to backup, this
Speaker 1: is how crazy this guy was. He really thought that
Speaker 1: the world would have been better off had the Confederacy
Speaker 1: won the war. Okay, which I'm there's a few people
Speaker 1: that think that. He also had a girlfriend who was
Speaker 1: this beautiful black woman who you know, and wealth educated
Speaker 1: and all that. I would just you know, somewhat consisted somewhat, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say so. And like I said, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a beautiful, well educated black woman I met
Speaker 1: a couple of times and it was like a terrific girl.
Speaker 1: And I I didn't want to get involved in their relationship.
Speaker 1: How are you putting up with this nut job? You know?
Speaker 1: But you know that's the way. He wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: He was tremendously passionate about about pretty much everything in life. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Barry and I, you know, we were we were pretty close.
Speaker 1: We're still pretty close. But we did a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff together. And now, like I said, Kevin was also
Speaker 1: like a huge baseball fan, but he had things like that,
Speaker 1: we're just you know, I know you're a baseball fan too,
Speaker 1: but he had like these weird things about baseball or
Speaker 1: one of them was he felt Smokey Joe would should
Speaker 1: have been in the Hall of Fames it wanted for him.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have no idea who Smokey Joe. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was you know, Bmokey Joe Wood. So he's got like
Speaker 1: that historical app Bug game. Do you remember that game?
Speaker 1: A p B A app buck. It was a baseball game,
Speaker 1: kind of a predator and it was based on statistics
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. You know. Yeah, eventually a pretty
Speaker 1: good game. I planned it a couple of times, but
Speaker 1: I would play like it would be almost like mad
Speaker 1: or like a new version will come up and maybe
Speaker 1: not every year, vaguely, and then they then they had
Speaker 1: the historical game. So this is so then one day
Speaker 1: where me and Barry were, you know, and I can't
Speaker 1: remember like what day of the week it was. I
Speaker 1: know it wasn't a weekend, but it was like a
Speaker 1: day a week day. He starts calmings and you know,
Speaker 1: Smokey Joe would just struck out, Babe, Ruth and he
Speaker 1: hang up, and like he would call me and Barry
Speaker 1: and and there was like about seven or eight guys
Speaker 1: on the list, and that's all I would say. Smokey
Speaker 1: Joe would just struck out Joe the magic clip. He'd
Speaker 1: hang up. I mean this went on for like hell hours.
Speaker 1: Are you laughing? Like what are you doing? Are you
Speaker 1: just doing I'm laughing, But we've had these threatening letters.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, I'm not sure how bunny this is,
Speaker 1: you know. So I I get a hold of Bill mqugh,
Speaker 1: you know, our our boss, and I said, Bill, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta do something. I mean, this is first of all,
Speaker 1: you know, again Millennials, we didn't have caller ID. When
Speaker 1: your phone rang, you answer it, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: answering my phone in my office because of course he
Speaker 1: had my office number and Barry's office number. He was
Speaker 1: a you know, he was a supervisor for a long time.
Speaker 1: So he's calling us, and that's what You've got to
Speaker 1: pick up the phone. You don't know if it's one
Speaker 1: of your bosses or what, you know, And Smokey Joe
Speaker 1: would just struck out Willie may you know clip man?
Speaker 1: And so anyway, I get a hold of Domakiss, so
Speaker 1: we gotta do something. I mean it depended in scene
Speaker 1: and that goes as all right, So he gets he
Speaker 1: gets the lawyer and they drop a quick uh you know,
Speaker 1: season's assist order and the other sheriff's gonna go deliverance,
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, I forget what me and Barry
Speaker 1: are doing. So me and Barrier kind of run around
Speaker 1: doing something. We walk into the marketing office and Barry,
Speaker 1: you know, had like a few people working for and
Speaker 1: he is secretary. I walk in and she's on the
Speaker 1: phone and I could see she's like in a panic.
Speaker 1: I walk in. I remember I'm one of the owners
Speaker 1: of the county. But this point, so I walk into,
Speaker 1: she like waves me down, you know, and I could
Speaker 1: see like her eyes are like, you know, biggest saucers.
Speaker 1: To use a cliche, uh, do we have uh any
Speaker 1: comment on the Kevin White situation? And I looked at well, well, no,
Speaker 1: we don't have any comment on it, you know, no,
Speaker 1: And now she's your pinking. Oh he's barricaded himself in
Speaker 1: his apartment and the police are are gonna knock the
Speaker 1: door down, and every news station in Reno is covering it. Live. Well,
Speaker 1: for sure, we don't have a comment on the cap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now Barry and I we run up to the
Speaker 1: sports before I have all these TV I turn and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's on every news station and we know live You
Speaker 1: cops are surrounding it, and he's and he's shouting out
Speaker 1: you know whatever he's shouting out. I don't know, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what the hell has happened here? So me
Speaker 1: and Barry looking should we go out there? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean it's because of us as this whole thing started.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could help in some way, you know. So
Speaker 1: Barry and I jumped in the car. We head out
Speaker 1: to his apartments. Cops are surrounding it, you know, the
Speaker 1: red lights are flashing, you know, and we go. We
Speaker 1: find you know, the captain. Asked the captain, We say, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of brief him on the story,
Speaker 1: and even like the ghost tell us it's weigh beyond that.
Speaker 1: At this point, there's nothing you can do, and one
Speaker 1: point anything because like they're trying to just you know,
Speaker 1: serve in the papers is what they're trying to do,
Speaker 1: and me embarrassing that and we hear this loud bang
Speaker 1: very I we both like hit the deck like you know,
Speaker 1: in a Nano bang. We said that the captain looked
Speaker 1: at boys. It's just an arrogant. We're trying to knock
Speaker 1: the door and knocker, guys here one bang down we
Speaker 1: go that we I told that story to Barry's daughters.
Speaker 1: You know, they're yeah, they you know, they worshiped their father,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, and they were dying and laugh
Speaker 1: when they thought it was hilarious. There's tough guy. Dad
Speaker 1: hit the ground like who My kids laughed too when
Speaker 1: I tell him that story. So anyway, so anyway, they
Speaker 1: know that they finally you know, they get in there,
Speaker 1: they take them out and handcuffs and now this is
Speaker 1: all on live TV, and you know, cameras are right
Speaker 1: in the space and you caught them. You finally caught
Speaker 1: the gray Ghost. You caught the Gray Ghost. You know,
Speaker 1: you finally caught them to all these years, but you
Speaker 1: finally caught him. And Barry and I were kind of
Speaker 1: trying to hide back behind the bushes. We don't want
Speaker 1: to even want him to see it, you know. So
Speaker 1: you got you gotta grades. So now again they take
Speaker 1: them away in the patty wagons, handcuffed the whole thing
Speaker 1: and then they interview the captain, the guy that we
Speaker 1: were talking to, you know what happened. He's given the
Speaker 1: story and then yeah, they took them away cleanly to
Speaker 1: be like the silver Shadow or something like that, or
Speaker 1: the silver Spirit. You don't even get the respect of
Speaker 1: being called the gray ghosts on the way out. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they them, they take him to jail, and uh and
Speaker 1: that like they asked us and nas to count me.
Speaker 1: They don't want to press charges when you know, we
Speaker 1: really don't want to press charges. I mean, we just
Speaker 1: want them out of our hair. And uh so believe
Speaker 1: in our account, Nabel was pretty well connected politically, you know,
Speaker 1: with with the whole system. And Reno said, listen, if
Speaker 1: we just get him to leave town, to leave town,
Speaker 1: go back home he was from. I don't you want
Speaker 1: to say what state is one of the southern state obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, let's you know, one of our guys, our
Speaker 1: head of security will escored him back home on the airplane.
Speaker 1: Make sure he gets off the airplane and then he'll
Speaker 1: fly back to me. You know, as long as he
Speaker 1: does that, we won't press charges. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: the end of the story. They sure that he did
Speaker 1: get home and got off the plane, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been what twenty five years or twenty six years
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I haven't heard from since, and I
Speaker 1: certainly don't hope to hear from him again, never until now.
Speaker 1: Chrissie's listening right he's listening right now. He's not a
Speaker 1: fan of I know we want, but I hope. I
Speaker 1: am now a Seek Warrior. We'll come back. It's a
Speaker 1: great I can't believe that story didn't make the book
Speaker 1: or the po We'll come back. We'll recap our favorite
Speaker 1: picks of the week. And uh, in case of those
Speaker 1: of you want to know who the great Ghost actually was,
Speaker 1: we have some historical historical word on that and how
Speaker 1: that Niners Bengals game actually turned out that day. It's
Speaker 1: coming back. It's a Numbers game storytime with Chrissy right
Speaker 1: here at Visa. Welcome back to a Numbers game with
Speaker 1: Jill Alexander, Chris Felika texting, May I should start every show,
Speaker 1: every Numbers game by saying, I am a Seek warrior.
Speaker 1: I am now a Seek warrior. By the way, seek
Speaker 1: a religion of peace, JB. You point out off the air,
Speaker 1: so we should we should point that out as well. Uh.
Speaker 1: By the way, the score of that Niners Bengals game
Speaker 1: that started all of this downward spiral into just crazy town.
Speaker 1: Niners won that game twenty one to eight, did not
Speaker 1: cover the twenty four to spread twenty four point spread.
Speaker 1: Bengals felled to one and eleven under Dave Shula. There
Speaker 1: in Chrissy on the pay on the screen. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have this here Visa dot com. The
Speaker 1: Visa app is a picture of John S Mosby, who
Speaker 1: was known as the Great Ghost. Does that look like
Speaker 1: your employee? If it does, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: I got my I got my gone that screen. I'll
Speaker 1: have to let me st know. Texted to week you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. If it did, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to say. So let's I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: If it does, it got creepy all real quick. If
Speaker 1: it does, that's for sure. That's an outstanding store. We
Speaker 1: appreciated um real quick. Here the games that I liked
Speaker 1: the most. Here we have thirty seconds the games that
Speaker 1: I liked the most. Uh, Denver three point favorites over Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: That should be lined. But that's what I like the most.
Speaker 1: I think New Orleans. I like, which is I believe
Speaker 1: the wrong team is favorite against Dallas. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: the other ones. I mean I like. I like a lot,
Speaker 1: which scares me. I like Baltimore giving U what is
Speaker 1: it a touchdown against the Browns five and a half
Speaker 1: I'm open TOI. Oh yeah, I had a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: I really like Baltimore and UH kind of like New England,
Speaker 1: kind of like Seattle. Anyway that I like a lot,
Speaker 1: which scares me. Christie, I gotta go though. That was
Speaker 1: an outstanding I am now in the mafia. Pretty pretty
Speaker 1: sure that's not how it works. I love that line, Christie,
Speaker 1: thank you will do it again next week, my friend? Yes, well,
Speaker 1: immediately enjoy good luck everybody with tonight's game in d C.