WEBVTT - Evaluating Roster After Preseason Week 1 | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.439 It is Monday, August. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:12.960 Well, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:18.120 presented by Jet Home Loans. And now a guy who's 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:25.320 Jaguars parking pass has been allocated to the Romanians jap Chack. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.760 Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, the first Monday 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.040 show of the season at long last, presented by Jet 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:38.080 Home Loans. We've got a busy two hours ahead. Here's 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.440 what's coming up with the program today. On this August twelfth, 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:46.680 Prisco and Vaselli are back. Despite our best efforts, they 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.720 are back. Jaguars over the Chiefs in preseason Week one. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.760 Offensive standouts in the game, a new look defense, debuted 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.120 special teams made an impact all over the field. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.000 Will keep it real? 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.760 And Mannix fan questions, that's all coming up? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:03.760 J P. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:08.200 Shadwick with you, Tony Vasselli Hall of Famer, Literally ten 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.520 seconds before the show walks into the studio. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.280 He's here, He's on time. It's great to see you, Tony. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.800 Why did you have to add the ten second before? 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.440 I just wanted people to know the real you. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.040 I mean, I was ready, I'm here, got my coffee, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:22.840 got my water. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.800 CBS Sports Outside signing more more autographs for more money. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.160 Since that's what you do. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.000 That's not true, Pete, that's not true. That is inaccurate. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:35.880 What's going on there, my little friend. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.600 That's Pete Prisco CBS Sports. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.360 Hello, Peter we I was in town last week. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.160 I figured i'd bump into Tony and no, he said, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.440 Canton signing, signing and doing more signing. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.640 Ch ching, ch ching ch ching. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.280 All right, First things first, whoever's I need that TV 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.000 on over there? 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:53.880 Or wow? 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.000 You come in fire and shots. You just show up 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.800 ten seconds before the show. Well you can showed up 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.720 thirty minutes ago. Maybe we can add something for you. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:01.360 Well, I got Pete to my left, So if I 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.720 want to see Pete's beautiful face, I gotta look to 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.000 the left, and then it looks terrible. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.560 How that is beautiful? 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.600 Oh boy, that's South Florida tan baby. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.880 Uh huh Tony Uh. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.160 By the way, I gotta give you props because I'm skinny, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.720 but you're you're almost frail. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.440 No, I'm I'm I'm stronger than i've been in a 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:20.120 long time. Pete. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:24.200 I've been lifting weights. I've changed, I've changed the game. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.639 It's not just about I'm not about I'm not about 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.720 weight loss. I'm about body composition. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.679 Hey, just wait, Pete until the mister Chubby's Wings hour 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.240 in the second hour. They're here tonight too. They delivered. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:35.880 I'm good Tony. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.880 Tony looks like he could couldn't play tight end. Now 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:40.360 you gotta be, you gotta be. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:40.639 What are you? 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.320 Two twenty no, two forty between. I linger around between 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.440 two forty and two five on a daily basis. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.120 That's nice. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.760 Well, I'm sixty pounds of that's your head. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.520 I mean, oh yeah, because you're you know, you're very 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.160 you're very well proportioned. Let's not get into you. Wow, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.120 my goodness. I don't know if he's Seth Payne's uh 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:02.400 post on X. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.399 We'll get to that a little bit later. Yes, somebody 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.120 a little short. I'm not going to say who. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.760 And you know what, as I age, I get shorter. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.440 I think that's how it works. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.040 Good, I'm shrinking. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.080 That's okay, Pete. I still love you well. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.639 I love you and your big head too, So don't 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:27.480 worry about it. JP, that's a whole other story. Hey, Tony, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.280 we're starting off the season. And the first thing I 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.160 said to JP when I saw him in the media room. 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.360 How much does your dad hate me? 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:32.880 Now? 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.560 So the whole off season. I don't think it's it's 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.560 built up yet. We haven't even to show yet. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.400 Yeah, that carries over, don't you think, Tony, it carries over. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.080 Well, Pete. Once someone doesn't like you usually does not change. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.400 You're always starting with a deficit. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.680 It does not just before we get into football, because 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:51.800 we haven't done this for a while. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:52.320 Uh. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.000 And I can't tell by the picture. Are you still 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.560 being healthy, Pete? Are you healthy Pete? 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.440 Or fat? And hell Pete? 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.120 No, I'm way down, so you're not noticed. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.640 His camera shot like his shoulders up. He didn't want 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:06.680 to show anything below that. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:08.440 I'm down. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.280 You're no longer as wide as tall. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.840 No, no, I'm not. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.360 That's good for you. By the way, I'll tell you what. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.679 Pete did look pretty good the other day. I'm being serious. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.839 Pete and I talked all off season, mostly via text, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.359 and I worry about Pete's health. He's a friend. I 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.159 want to make sure he's healthy. I'm starting I'm. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.800 Starting about even last season. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.560 No, he did good. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.960 Now, Pete, we might want to focus our attention on 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.480 JP because I'm not sure if you've noticed somebody not 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.880 taking seriously, what are you talking about? 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:44.679 You're a shape. I've been worse. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.680 You definitely have a shape, been a whole lot worse. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:47.520 Tony. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.440 So the two older guys, Grandpa me and then Grandpa 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.640 number two, you better than than younger here. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.400 Yes, I think it's because we started seeing the end 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.160 and we said, I'm still living a different lifestyle than. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:04.240 I. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.920 Might be the older one here, but if you count 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.560 your years in football years, you're much older than me. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:09.960 Yeah. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.880 I think you start seeing the end, You're like, I 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.520 might want to do something about this before it gets 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:15.400 too much. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.120 More out of I come to the town. I noticed 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:25.159 all over town guys have lost a ton of weight. Hacker. Yes, Matt, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.320 Matt Hayes. I mean it's unreal, it's good. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:34.000 I mean, listen, you gotta take care of yourself, like yeah, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.680 like the first thing. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.000 That do you eat anymore? 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:42.200 Yeah? Oh yeah, he stars himself a lot of heavy protein, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:43.679 lifting weights, heavy protein. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.440 You don't look like you're lifting weights. That's why I don't. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.919 I don't think so Okay, I'm lying because I because 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.560 i'm definition. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.800 Oh yeah, I mean you want me to take the 0:05:54.800 --> 0:06:01.679 shirt off? No, no, you can the six pack is there? 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.160 No, No, it's weird. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.080 Is I haven't had any sort of abs in my 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:08.240 entire nearby. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.559 It's the first time in fifty two I got apps. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:11.440 I'm like, where these come? 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.640 I actually have like remnants of them. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:14.320 I do too. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:16.240 It's happened, Pete. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:17.640 I am fifty two years old. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.640 Never in my life have I seen even like the 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:26.000 starting like definition of an app either. And I'm like 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.520 my wife, She's like, my goodness, like you like, you 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.479 got a four pack for sure? Of the six packs 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.400 coming in. I'm like, that's right, baby. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.400 But you get to certain points, right, you get you 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.680 gotta stop though, You gotta you get to a point 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.520 and you become obsessive and you gotta stop. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.600 Pete, what are you doing on a daily basis? What's 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:43.520 your regular routine? 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.120 I work it out every day a lot. But I 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.800 don't eat much either, so I'm way down a lot 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:48.320 of protein. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.040 Like Tony said. Yeah, And here's the other thing, is 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:54.880 you know, I went and saw my doctor. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.680 When I see the doctor, he told me I actually 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.680 have to start lifting weights more because you get older 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:00.880 and you're owns men frail. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.560 That's right, they do. Yeah. Yeah, I'm feeling good. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.880 Pee, I'm gonna make it through fat ball season. I 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.560 did it last year. I'll do it again. I'm not 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.520 gonna get I just I just you gotta do it 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.600 or else, you know. Again, like Tony said. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.800 The end clocks sticking. The clocks can take it. It's 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.000 sticking faster, Pete. It goes faster every year. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.560 It seemed like the season just that. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:28.440 I mean, I'm like, wait a second, Like I'm like, like, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.920 the season's here, which means in my world, this is 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.000 that's always been. Once the season's here, it's over. Because 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:39.040 you like you blink, you wake up and you're it's 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:45.880 like Christmas playoffs done. It's like, holy cow. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.840 You know, life goes fast, as like Tony said, as 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.120 you get a little older, it goes faster. But I 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.440 always said, if life went as fast as a football 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.720 season dead we did, we'd all be dead and about 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:56.520 five years. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.880 It goes so fast. But that's because it's so much fun. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.559 And this is, I mean the exciting thing. We're getting 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.680 ready to kick off here and we have first preseason 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:08.400 game with the Jags against the Chiefs. This is the 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.400 most fun time of the year, you know, getting into September, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:17.280 fall change of the weather football and now it's like 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.280 all day Sunday, Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday. I mean 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:21.720 it's like then you get late in the season, you 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:26.120 get Saturday games, and it's just it's all consuming. And 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:27.920 I saw the best thing I've seen. It was either 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.560 on Instagram or x I can't remember which. One was 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.520 a little parody and basically it was as a husband 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:38.080 sending his wife a two week notice, basically saying, this 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.400 is your two week notice that starting on this September X, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:48.480 every Sunday from ten am to eleven eleven pm, I 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.240 will be unavailable for any housework from six pm to 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.719 eleven pm on Mondays. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.440 It was great, it was such. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.880 A Good's the way the league is two it's gonna 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:01.400 be every. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.280 Day they don't have a game, it's Tuesday because they 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.960 have Christmas Wednesday games this year. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.920 Yeah, in college football on Saturday year. I mean, it's 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:10.840 it's NonStop. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:11.480 It's unreal. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.040 It is it is our for it from a sports 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.640 culture standpoint, it is our religion. It is what is 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:24.200 this time of year. It owns the TV, the radio, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.160 the internet. I mean, if you're a sports fan, it's 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.440 all football, all the time. And Pete, I know you 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.920 and I and I know JP's the same way, and 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.920 we love it because we love the game of football. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.400 It's a great game. It's great to cover, it's great, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.560 it's great to play. And I am looking forward to 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.680 twenty twenty four and I think it's it has the potential. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.599 And we'll talk about this tonight and all through the 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.320 preseason we lead up to opening Day down in South Florida. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:50.959 Are we gonna see you down in South Florida, Pete? 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:51.560 Opening Day? 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.480 Ill come come. I'm not gonna be at the game, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:54.680 but I'll come by the hotel. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:55.000 Yeah. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.960 Let's play it on dinner Saturday night. Wow, we'll go 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:58.400 to dinner. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:09:58.680 Wow. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.160 How about that? Maybe we'll do the show dinner or 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:01.600 you're not. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.960 There, I mean, enjoy tell me how it. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.520 Is, guys, me and people will do a show dinner. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:05.920 Thanks all. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.600 Yes, you're welcome. You'll be invited, but won't be there, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.080 probably not. But you know, we'll talk about all the 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.640 lead up to that game. And there's a lot of 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.240 things that need to happen, can happen, you know, and 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.080 we'll talk about all that. But boy, I'm excited about 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:21.720 twenty twenty four. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.920 Guys, before we dig into this preseason game, we got 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.240 the rest of the show for all that and the 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.199 first kind of look at this team. This was obviously 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.000 a huge offseason for the organization, both in the personnel 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.600 side and outside of football as well. We start with 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:41.160 the cornerstone payouts to big time players, the quarterback, defensive end, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.520 cornerback all getting multi year extensions this offseason, and then 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.280 of course the stadium deal going through the city council 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.800 still has to be approved by the ownership. That's a 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.120 lot going on in one off season, Tony, and it 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.680 seems like a monumental foundation piece for this franchise moving 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.640 ahead at both sides. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.199 Yeah, I think the way I look at this offseason, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.959 like the stadium stuff set that aside, like it's almost 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.199 let me say it this way, there's like three buckets 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.560 of big things that happened this offseason. The stadium was huge, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.480 and we'll talk about what that means and how I'll 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.120 give you my opinion how I feel about it, what 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.040 it means for the future of this franchise, But much 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.319 bigger than the future of this franchise, because this franchise 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.600 was going to have a future regardless, but what it 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.520 means in the impact it can have in our city, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.240 and what it means for the next thirty years, which 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.400 I'm super excited about. And then as I think about 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.199 the off season on the football side, I kind of 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:37.720 break it down into two categories player acquisition, So what 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.040 they did in free agency and the draft, and I 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.280 think we should spend some time at least a segment 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.360 talking about that and what we thought at the moment 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.600 and how we think it's played out so far during camp. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.160 And then the second book of this offseason was locking 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.920 up foundational players for the long term, because I think 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.360 that's different. It's something we have not done very well 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.360 because we haven't had those type of players through the 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:08.200 draft lately. But we locked up three guys. And give 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.280 seat con credit because he wrote the checks to a 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.040 lot of money, a lot of guaranteed money. And I 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.400 love what we did there, and we can dive into 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:18.239 it even. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.640 Deeper because you have to. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.760 You have to set the foundation of who you want 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.920 to be at key places and the four premium positions 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:35.400 in the NFL today our quarterback first and foremost. I'm 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.040 not gonna say, I'm gonna say your offensive line, and 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.400 I think it's your two tackles would be the highest premium. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.160 I don't think there's a difference in today's NFL between 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.720 left and right tackle because of how people are rushing 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.079 the quarterback. You have premium rushers on both sides. Uh, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:53.800 and then your corner I mean, I mean sorry, past rush, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.600 pass rusher and then corner. So we pass rusher obviously 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.520 Josh Allen, and then corner. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:01.200 To it too. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.839 Yeah, Pete, we could discuss that. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.320 Obviously, you want a big play receiver, there's no doubt 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:13.520 about that in today's passing league. But I still think 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.040 those other four are more important because if you have. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.440 A quarter you count the entire offensive line, then, no 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:18.920 doubt about it. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.920 Because if you can, if you can, if you have 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.560 a quarterback and you can protect the quarterback right, then 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.960 you can do a lot of things in offense. Those 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.320 two things like it because you can have the best 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:34.320 premium receiver. If you can't protect, true, you're gonna struggle. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.400 But if you don't have a great if you don't 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.960 if you have a good offensive line and you have 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.840 a good quarterback, but you don't have to stretch the field, guy, 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.240 you're going to be limited in what you can do. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.320 I'm talking about the number one down the field guy. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.520 So New England would New England would disagree with you 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.480 for about twenty years of Tom Brady in a solid 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.040 offensive line and a great offensive line. 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.120 Car Okay, well, now that you're compare with Trevor Lawrence 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:54.800 to Tom Brady. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.560 Okay, I'm not I'm not doing it. My point, Pete 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:03.000 is I still right out of the gate. Isn't it 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.319 amazing how he twists no matter what I say? Yeah, 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.240 it's a great talent that Pete has. It's a great talent. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.640 He can take anything I say and make it whatever 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.640 he wants it. To Lawrence, I love it. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.960 I love it. I get what you say. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.120 But there are outliers on the whole and Tony and 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.840 it was different most of his error too. You would 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.840 agree with that the rules have mandated where the wide 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.680 receivers become the big play. Wide receivers become much more 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:29.880 valuable than he used to be. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.080 I would say the big play where wide receivers like 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.560 the running back was when I. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:39.960 Played like you. Maybe, but remember back when I especially 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:41.680 earlier in my career, Pete, it was if you have 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.200 a quarterback, a big offensive line and you can control 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.320 the line of scrimmage and then you have that explosive back. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:49.640 You are really tough to be. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.520 It was like that was Tom's formula's run the ball, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.440 not turn it over, play smart possession football, and play 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:57.000 good defense. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.440 I mean that was really Now we ended up get 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:00.000 Jimmy Smith. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:07.480 Think keen mar Mark Uh uh McCardell, sorry, uh Keenan McCardell. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:13.960 I remember you stopped Keenamar cardell, and you have two 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:14.880 guys outside. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:29.920 I did not played with the guy for how long Mark's. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.920 I mean even the first segments over Pete. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:29.800 We already got one. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.240 No, I know that team. It was like he was 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.640 a stiff at the end of the bench. You not 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:35.440 know his name. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:36.600 I do know his name. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.680 I missed first of all. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.600 I corrected myself, and then you got all over me 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.360 and I got flustered. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:42.840 To be honestly, I got flustered. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.200 I get all over him. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:51.200 Yeah you did try it again, McCardell. Okay, let's come back. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.720 I know Keenan very well. McCardell. I know him too. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.200 We gott to finish this thought a little no, but 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.200 I'm saying we will go deep into it. But I 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.000 want I think as you talk about the off season, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.840 then yeah. My broader point before I butcher any anything 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.400 else is I think you have to look at these 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.880 in three distinct manners, because they're all different. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.000 We'll get to those. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.080 There's some theory that the quarterback deal getting done when 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.480 it did was kind of tied to that, to that 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:16.920 stadium deal a little bit. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.120 Did you Yeah, you know. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.960 Something happened like I don't think says before the vote, Well, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.680 he was going to get it anyways, but the fact 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.560 that he got it before the vote, you don't think. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:26.920 There's no I think both. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.400 I think both were gonna happen independently, independently of each other. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.280 I'm glad that. Let's put it this way. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.400 I'm glad the stadium is staying there because I think 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.560 that team. I've said it for years and years. I've 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.360 defended that city so many times. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:39.920 It belongs in Jacksonville. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.920 Let's come back in a moment. We'll get to Saturday 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.800 Night's preseason Week one win. The Jaguars knockoff the world 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:52.160 champion Chiefs in season, that's a great, great exit there. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.720 Jacks fans won customized Jaguars furniture for your home check 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.119 out zip chair dot Com and browse all customizable options 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.080 zip Chair furniture. For fans, we'll hear from Doug Peterson, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.800 Trevor Lawrence, Josh Heinz Allen plenty ahead in the second hour, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.159 we'll have your social media questions, the fanatics, fan questions, 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:11.920 and keep it real. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.320 We are off and running for the first time in 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.080 twenty twenty four. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:23.879 It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.760 And I think that's what you're seeing out there in practice. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.359 It's what I'm seeing anyway. And then tonight there's so 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:31.640 many guys playing in this game. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.800 You just there wasn't really a drop off. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.800 You know, because sometimes when you when you get out 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.440 of that first second unit, sometimes there's a letdown or 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.480 a drop off with playing. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:43.399 I didn't see that tonight. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.800 Our guys played played fast, they played hard. 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:48.040 Were their mistakes. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.199 Sure, there were mistakes and MS and things like that 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.560 that we can clean up this week. But you know, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.960 I think top to bottom, you know, the guys, the 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.679 guys played. Credit to them, they played fast and they 0:17:58.680 --> 0:17:59.280 played physical. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.600 It's had Joe Dug Peterson after the game Saturday night, 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.680 will win over the Chiefs preseason Week one, It's Jaguars 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.479 Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans. We're on ten 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.760 ten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, hit us on 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.520 X as well at JP Shadwick at Tony Boselli at 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.159 Prisco CBS. We'll get to your fanatics fan questions in 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.320 the second hour. And boy was X a buzz today 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:25.440 with the show coming back. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.800 Yeah, it's good stuff. Should I do my first lock 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:30.320 of the year? 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.320 Oh early lock. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.800 Pete, I thought you locked the Chiefs game last week. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.399 Well, it's a preseason lock. We're gonna go undefeed in 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.000 the preseason. 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:42.919 Who cares? 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.320 Well, I know no one cares. But and I'm I'm 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.719 stealing this from Logs. This is Logs inside. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.000 He's an original lock. No, it's not. It's very It's 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:51.760 a stall and lock. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:55.720 And it made me think when Doug said that he 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.840 didn't see a drop off from you know, first, second, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.400 third unit, and I would agree as far as how 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.840 the offense defense functioned. And a lot of that on 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.359 the offense side of the ball is because usually your 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.680 third quarterback is some rookie who doesn't even know which 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.960 ways up or down. And we have three veteran quarterbacks. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.280 I mean, I mean, so in the preseason you have 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.320 Trevor Lawrence, You're gonna have Matt Jones for a first 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.040 rounder started took a team to the playoffs, and CJ. Bethard, 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.280 who's won football games and played a lot of snaps 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.280 in this league and understands the offense. And so you're 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.520 not gonna I mean offensively, you're gonna be able to 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:40.560 function throughout the entire game, which gives you a huge 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.159 advantage over a lot of the teams you're playing. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:44.320 That's why. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.919 Yeah, it makes sense because most teams like have Nathan 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:47.720 Roar that's right. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.000 I mean, you have a guy that you're just maybe 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.840 trying to hide none at all. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.320 But you know what I mean, Pete, So that's a dumble, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.040 it's a dumb lock. But I thought it was interesting. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.320 It's dumb, glad you admit, But I thought. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.320 I thought of question about those three quarterbacks too. Yeah, 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.080 how how's the competition? Who do you think ends up number? 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:08.360 Mac Jones has to be number two? 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.560 Yes, it's not even really. Yeah, I don't think it's 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.040 I don't even think it's a thing. I don't think 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.680 it's a competition. I don't think it is Pete trade 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:16.600 for a first round. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:17.800 Quarter, keep all three of them. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.000 Yeah, I think I think CJ's on practice squad with 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.919 the new Pratt squad rules, you put them on there. 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.360 Yeah, I think he's clear, like there's no I. 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.520 Mean, what would they make that move for him to 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:28.640 be like a question mark? 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.920 Well, and I give I give Mac Jones a ton 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.760 of credit because I was not crazy about the trade 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.040 at the moment, because you know, everyone's like, oh, you're 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.920 worried about the competition with Trevor. No, I'm not worried 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.720 with the competition with Trevor. What I was concerned about 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:45.440 because I don't know Mac Jones. I know he's a 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.280 Jacksonville kid. I've never met him. I don't know his personality. 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.720 I didn't know how he'd handle it. But Pete will 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.560 attest to this. There's certain guys in this league that 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.920 get drafted high, they feel like they're a starter, they 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.280 get traded, and they have mentality like I'm going to 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:02.119 get that job. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:03.320 It's my job. 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.639 And the last thing I thought this place needed is 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.200 a guy coming in as the backup not knowing his role, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.320 and that backup's role is to support our franchise quarterback 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.800 Trevor Lawrence and just not knowing the dynamics of the 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.800 personality Mac Jones. I've been so impressed with Mac Jones 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:24.760 about how he's approached it, his energy, just you know, 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:26.959 I thought he was always a good quarterback. I mean, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.240 he proved that in New England. I thought he got 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.480 a raw deal in New England when Bill Belichick decided 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.399 to take a defensive coordinator and make him the offensive 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.080 line coach and the special teams guy to make him 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:40.439 the offensive coordinator. That's a tough situation to operate in 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.880 if you're Mac Jones. But I was always impressed with him, 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.919 and I'm even more oppressed now just how he's handled 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:51.840 the situation energy at practice, understands his role, you know. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.800 And well you know too, Tony. Some guys are just 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:56.800 meant to be backup quarterbacks in the NFL. 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:58.719 I don't think it's okay. 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.439 It is okay. I think that's Mac Jones. I actually 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.600 think Mac Jones is a starter in this league. 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.840 For where though. I mean he's in Jacksonville. He's not 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:09.480 starting there. 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.040 Well, but you know how it goes. The guys might 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.200 get hurt later in the year and then the deal 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.920 and and he I'll give you be a perfect example, Pete. 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.440 He was appailable for anybody for anything but a fourth 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:19.920 round pick. 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.400 Right hold on Pete last year of his deal as well. So, Pete, 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.080 this is how I think about it. I'm not saying 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.520 this is going to happen. Mac Jones comes in, has 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.800 a good preseason, which he's kicked it off, having a 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:36.680 good preseason, and is the backup all year. Let's hope 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.000 that he doesn't have to play one snap outside of 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.000 coming up to maybe we're up by fifty and he 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.680 comes up and whatever. But hopefully he doesn't have to 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.400 play meaningful snaps because that means Trevor's healthy the whole year. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.120 And now he's a free agent, and you know this league, Pete, 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.240 you're telling me there's not going to be a couple 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.760 of teams that are looking for a quarterback. And on 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.879 that scouting staff, there's somebody who loved mac Jones come 0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.960 out of college and they say, this guy's a start, 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.080 and they'll put on his tape from his first year 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.000 with Belichick and a good coordinator, seeing that they took 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:06.680 him to the playoffs, and they say, you know what, 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.560 we can go get this guy and pay fifteen million 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.080 bucks or twelve million bucks, and he can be our 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:18.560 starter and maybe he blossoms into a like no. 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.920 Different than Baker Mayfield. I mean, look at Baker Mayfield. 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:26.040 Baker Mayfield signed a prove it deal with the Buccaneers 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.080 and ended up playing at a level, taking that team 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.000 to the playoffs where he got a franchise deal. Very 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.880 I could see that happening with Mac Jones. And if 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.400 that happens, Pete, guess what the Jags get. They get 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:43.240 a competitory pick because he gets signed by another team. 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.320 I know, I get I see it in theory. 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.040 First off, I don't think does Mac Jones have that 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.080 chip on his shoulder like a Baker do? 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.000 I think he does well. 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.520 I think he looks happy to be the backup in Jacksonville. 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.720 He looks like a happy kid. You're right, he's bought 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.959 into it and he looks just looks intent and happy. 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.159 I think I think he's happy because he is in 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:09.119 a situation that stable. He can grow as a player, 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.840 he can play a role. I think he's a high 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.919 energy guy by nature, and I think he's coming up 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:16.920 with a great ad to because I think he knows 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.639 if he does a good job, this is his best 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.280 path of getting an opportunity to be a starter again. 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.520 Was playing ever a starter again? He wasn't, was he? 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:25.880 No? 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.399 No, he was always a backup. That's sometimes you're just 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.159 a backup. And he made a long career out of 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:31.440 being a backup. That's okay. 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.160 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. My point 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.720 is I still think Matt Jones can be a starter 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:37.480 in this league. 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.080 And I'm gonna play Devil's advocate on it. 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.000 He was available for anybody who wanted to give up, 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.119 say a third round pick, to make him the starter. 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:45.920 Nobody did right. 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.399 From that though, and move, move up and on. You 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:50.879 never know how he can play. 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.560 He can play himself out of that stuff. 0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.960 Yeah, I just think so. Look, he wondery good when 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:57.800 he played. After the first year, he was okay. 0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:02.280 But would you agree that the a bad situation bad situation. 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.960 I'm not going to defend that situation one bit, not 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.600 at all. But he was awful in some games, Tony 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:09.280 with the capitol A. 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:10.800 I mean he was bad. 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.120 And sometimes I think you get all the pressure off 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.760 of you and you become a backup quarterback and so 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:18.679 you can make you can stay in the league a 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.480 long time and become a backup as a backup quarterback. 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:26.000 It's okay, Jaguars happy, Prisco, Tony WASCELLI JP Shadwick quickly. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.960 How did Trevor Lawrence look to you the other night? 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:29.800 Overall? 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:31.199 Outstanding? Two drives? 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.119 I mean, small sample size. I thought he was outstanding. 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:36.639 He did exactly what you want me to do. 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:41.760 You think of the sack on fourth down because Ingram 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.920 came open LA pivot route late, but by that time 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.560 there was pressure kind of pushing him to the left 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.480 and he kind of dropped his head down a little bit. 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.200 If he stays there and throws it, that's a completion 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:54.040 for a first down. 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:55.960 Yeah, I mean, that was. 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.840 My only knock on him, and I'm being nippicky. 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.119 But yeah, I mean I think if I mean, if 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.000 I wanted to be nitpicky on that play, maybe you 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.280 can hang in there half a tick longer and get 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:06.480 it to Ingram for the first down. 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.840 Maybe the other thing he could do is he scrammed 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.560 those right. I thought, you know, maybe it was Kirk 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.400 or someone was coming open late on the crosser, real 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.440 real late, and maybe he could just throw it up 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.080 because it's fourth down. You throw it down deep in 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.800 the field and can't. Yeah, I mean, so that's the 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.320 only nitpicky. But in that situation, really what I wanted 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.440 him to do, Pete, if I'm being completely honest, fall 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.959 down and don't get hit, because I don't care if 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.960 we pick up fourth down or not. I don't want 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.400 my franchise quarterback getting hit in the preseason. 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.040 Well, then why the right side of the line break 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:39.879 down on that play? 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:41.040 It was? 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.800 I think that was in the interior or the offensive line. 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.000 If it came across it. I think it came across 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:47.960 to Actually I think it might have come across the center. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.560 I thought it was the right guard. But I'll be 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.120 honest with you, I did not go back and watch 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:53.120 the tape in I. 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.000 Said, I gotta remember what it was. But here's the 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:55.400 other thing. 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.280 The throw we made to Gabe Davis in the middle 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.080 of the field was what was missing. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.000 Year ago in a lot of situations. 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.600 That one right there, And by the way, if you 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:05.560 go back and look at that. 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.159 Opens to his left that comes back to the middle. 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:08.800 I loved it. 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.800 And watch him hanging in there because he gets pressured 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.280 in his face and gets hit as he's throwing it. 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:13.760 That's the throw. 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.320 When last year when we'd sit here and we'd say 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.760 he wasn't pulling the trigger on those throws, he wasn't. 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.200 He was bailing. That's the throw right there. 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.760 Yeah, and I wonder do they have the fourth and five? 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.880 We're watching the same play over and over again, which 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.000 is excited about the Yeah, the fourth and five where 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:32.399 doesn't have it? 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:33.320 Don't have it? 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.880 Yeah, I remember, I think it came maybe it's either 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.399 Sheriff or or Morse. 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.240 I think it was let him, let him through. 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:44.320 Yeah. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.159 So yeah, I mean I thought Trevor was fine what 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:51.520 you wanted out that first preseason game. I thought the 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.520 whole offense was fine. You know, they got the short 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.720 field with I mean, the MVP of the of the 0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.280 whole game was Parker Washington. 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:01.240 He looks it's like a different he looks like a 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:02.800 different guy even running his routes. 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.560 Well, he's a different guy. In Camp Pete, He's had 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:05.240 a great camp. 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.800 Trevor talked about that going into the game, actually, about 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.960 how Parker's really improved, and it showed you. 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.800 I mean, my goodness, I'm like, is this the same 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:12.280 guy we had? 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:13.720 Last year. I mean he looks great. 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.120 It looks he looks like a he looks like a pro. 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:17.000 Yeah, he does. 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.600 And I give him credit because I mean, Pete, We've 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:24.440 talked about this for years. The biggest the biggest step 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.280 you want to see from your You want to see 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.879 that big jump from your rookie the second year because 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.200 a lot of guys struggle as rookies, and you don't 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.720 want to make a judgment just based on their rookie year. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.919 The judgment is, Okay, how do they progress from that 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.240 rookie year to that second year? Now that they're a pro, 0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.720 they have a year in the system, they understand the system, 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.960 they're in the off season program, they get stronger, they 0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.680 do all the things, they mature and by all signs 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:55.040 and all indications, Parker Washington did his did his job 0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.080 this offseason and prepping himself being ready. He's had a 0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.200 great camp. He was we you know, the book coming 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:05.200 on him out of college was is He's dynamic like 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.800 a running back after he catches it. He's not like 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.400 a super fast, straight line guy. That's how he's known for. 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.240 He's a change the direction. 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:13.800 Powerful runner. 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.920 He saw that first hand on that dang kickoff returned 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.320 to start the game, and my holy cow, this guy's 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:22.560 he looks like a running back with the ball. 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.520 He's the only he's the only one who's done anything 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.760 with that kickoff crap. 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.600 We'll get to that, I quote kickoff crap a little 0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:31.000 bit later. 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.240 I want to pay off the teas we talked about. 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.320 Let's let's talk about the off season in the next segment. Okay, 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:37.800 at some point we talked about it. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.360 Yeah we should because there's a lot. 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:40.440 There's a lot there. 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.600 Yeah, it is. And we haven't been on since the offseason. 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.120 We have not. We've got a little defensive talk to go. Also, yeah, 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:48.960 should we go off season? 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:49.160 Then? 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:50.640 Defense or defense and offense? 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.120 Tell you what, if you shut up more than ten 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.240 seconds before the show, maybe you could produce some segments. 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:55.959 It wouldn't be fun if I did that. It's more 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:56.560 fun doing this. 0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:57.440 That's fun. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:02.200 I think, so got like jumping around to Tony's right. Dude. 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:03.920 JP likes to structure Tony. 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.680 He likes try your guy gotta bank and that segment 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.160 me and you go off the rails and he can't 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:09.600 handle it. 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.520 JP's a buzzkill. He ruins it. 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.760 That's what I am really amazing. 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:20.800 Wow, Hey, sign up your furry friend for the Jaguars 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:25.080 Official Four Leg Fan Club for Vets presented by Forever 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.160 Bets Animal Hospital. Your pet will receive access to exclusive merchandise, 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:33.600 events and sweepstakes throughout the twenty twenty four season. Visit 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.440 Jaguars dot com, Slash Promotions, Slash four Legged Fan Club 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:38.480 and sign up today. 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.800 We're back in a moment with whatever the heck these 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.560 guys want to talk about it Jaguars Happy Hour presented 0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:45.840 by Jet Home Loans. 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:55.120 Is parryd Parry Talented, you know, trying to forget you know, 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.320 who are who are Rushman? Miss You know we don't 0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.600 have everybody parents, not even back here, so you got. 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:02.120 Him in the mix. 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.160 You see all out here having a field day. 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.440 You got rowing Ivan Ham can push that pocket flot 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.640 So we just got gout that played all way the 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.400 film and uh, you know. 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.720 It's gonna be a fun year. US Passible Josh Hainz 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.320 Allen during the game broadcast Saturday night, and welcome back 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.960 is Shaguars Happy our first Monday show of the season, 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.360 presented by Jet Holme Loans. We're at the Hyundai Studios, 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.440 the Miller Electric Center. Well, two thirds of the show 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.560 is JP Shaddick, Tony Boselli here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.520 down in South Florida. 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.000 You know what we need to do one Monday, Pete. 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.239 We got to organize it where you come up and 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.000 do the show from here on a Monday. And I 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.840 know that's hard for you because your your schedule's crazy. 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.600 It's impossible even in. 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.760 The preseason before the season starts. So then we could 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.960 go out and get a big steak dinner afterwards. Media 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:55.640 and JP. 0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.800 Yeah, I like that. That would be grea. 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.320 We could have done it on a fa on the 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.000 day I came into town, but you weren't there. 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.240 He was signing autograph somewhere for more money. 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.120 I was not signing autographs. I was in Canton at 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:08.040 the Hall of Fame weekend. 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.080 By the way, I saw you at the ceremony, sitting 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.600 slefed overall, it was. 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:12.680 Like ready to get out of there. 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.600 That was a long day because of the weather delay. 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.400 Holy cow, that's right. You heard from josh An's Allen. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.760 Of course, the big contract in the off season, and 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.760 this kind of leans into the defensive performance. The other 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.760 night saw some new faces for the first time. They 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.200 did a lot of business on that side of the 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.320 ball this offseason. Josh was obviously the biggest piece of that. 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.720 They extended Foyer Lucan as well linebacker. They in free 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.360 agency picked up Darnault Savage and Ronald Darby, a couple 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.800 of veteran players in the league, and then in the 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.560 draft a couple of corners come in, Jarion Jones, DeAndre Prince. 0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:51.240 So yeah, they were busy this offseason on the defensive 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.880 side of the ball. 0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.000 And new and new scheme as well. 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.320 Up hasn't practiced, but they're looking leaning towards the Atlanta 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:03.800 game week getting him ready to go. 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.240 And I think I mean Mason Smith, the second rounder 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.440 from MELSU, did you mention him? 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.600 But not yes to big signing. 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.680 I mean the big news is locking up Josh Allen, 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:22.880 heins Allen, excuse me, for a long term deal, you know, 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.640 solidifying that and I think having him number one, bringing 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.440 Ryan Nielson in going to a four to three, I 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.360 thought our personnel fit for three better than three four, 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.240 just because heins Allen and Walker, the two of them 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:40.120 are defensive ends in my book, They're not outside linebackers 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.480 that you want to drop. I mean, come on, I mean, 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.400 those guys are handing the ground, get after the quarterback, 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.560 big physical guys. They both put on weight. They both 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.280 look great coming into the camp, and so I think 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:56.080 that's a super super positive Armstead. We'll see hopefully healthy 0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:00.720 coming off surgery in the offseason. And then you talked 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.680 about the back half locked up Tyson Campbell, who I 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.240 think is gonna excel in this scheme. 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:09.040 I think. 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.359 I mean, he's a long guy who can run. They're 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.239 gonna play a lot more aggressive coverage, a lot of 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:18.919 man in Ryan Neilson's defense. So I like that quite 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.399 a bit. They added a bunch of young guys. It'll 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.920 be interesting to see where does this who's in the 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.239 secondary besides Tyson? I mean, if we're guessing, I mean, 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.640 obviously Cisco has had a great camp so far. I 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:31.600 think he's the next Darby. 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:32.960 Darby will be one corner too. 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:34.920 I think Darby. I think you're right, Pete, I don't 0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.279 doubt that. My guess is Savage is mere Nickel. Once 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.120 he gets healthy, he's head. He played a lot of 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:43.719 Nickel in green Bell. 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.359 But I know, but when you play when you play 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.839 him at Nickel, I think I think you can get 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.560 him with shifty, smaller court receivers. 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:52.840 I think that's a problem there. 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:53.560 We'll see. 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.440 I mean he played a lot of out at green Bay, 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.680 played more. I thought he played more nickel than safety 0:34:58.680 --> 0:34:59.279 at green Bay. 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.319 And and then Johnson will be the other safe. 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.640 Antonio Johns will be the other safety. So and then 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.360 you got all the young guys you talked about. The 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.800 other interesting thing on defense, Ryan Nielson's come in flipped 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:14.680 a lucon and Lloyd Devin. Lloyd Devn's gonna be the 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.879 Mike linebacker. Foyer will still have the green dot, he'll 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:19.680 still call the defense, but he's gonna be in the whale. 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:25.240 Thus, Lewacon runs better. That's what that is. Coverage. 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.280 I don't think he runs better Pete. 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.239 I think he's better in coverage because he's so precise 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:32.840 in everything he does. 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:33.880 Yeah. 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:35.959 Maybe, but he also looks like he runs a little 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.239 bit better. I think going straight forward, I think Lloyd's good. 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.680 I think turning and running is a problem for him sometimes. Okay, 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.560 what'd you think of the run play when he jumped 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.600 through the run fit the other day on the big 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.040 run that was on him. 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.000 Well, they started up front, they got washed yeah, like 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.440 three they've got washed three gaps and so now and 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:57.040 then the. 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.319 Walker almost made the play coming down from the end. 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.040 They got washed quite a bit. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.319 And then where Devin when he got you got uh, 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.480 he got covered up by the line guy who had 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.640 a release from the line of scrimmage. 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.640 So I love what they've done on defense. 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.440 I think they're bigger, They're they're tougher, they're more physical, 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.400 I think, and I think that's Matt it has that matters. 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.160 And you mentioned it, Tony. Look, I talked to Heinz Walker. 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.000 I had him in an interview. 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.800 And who's heines Walker? 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.759 Allan, I'm sorry, Well, see I combined the two of 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.920 them because for forty sacks this year. No, you were right, 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.440 Tony was right. We got to give him credit for 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:35.960 that too. I don't want to give him credit for it, but. 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:36.359 He was right. 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:41.520 Yeah, yeah, I mean I talked to him and and 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.719 he's big, he says, he's he's so much bigger. He 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.239 feels so much more comfortable going forward, Like we talked 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.680 about that all last year, don't you his best football's 0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.400 played going forward? Why the hell did I have him 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.560 dropping into coverage all the time? And and same with 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.520 not all the time, but the same with Walker. But 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:02.439 I did ask him, JP, you were right. I asked 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.920 him about the motivation for not being a game wrecker, 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.799 and it was on his it had it was on 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.600 his phone. He said he admitted to it, and he 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.000 had it on there for a while. So, like I 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:14.760 told him, I said, I'm his life coach. 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.000 I got him straight and and the way I look 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.160 at it, I didn't tell him this, but maybe he 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:20.960 should send me a little bit of a cut for 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:21.560 that check. 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.399 You know, maybe shocking shocking. Pete thinks he should get 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:31.080 paid for doing nothing, for criticizing being a loud mouth. 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:32.360 He wants to get paid. 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.879 But the funny thing about that is is I got 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.080 blamed for the lack of the game wrecker talk. 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.160 I would not. I was not alone on that one, 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:43.640 but Seldy was right there with me. 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.000 Yeah that's true. I think we were all pretty much 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:46.560 in agreement. 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.480 Oh yeah, and listen at that pobably. I mean they 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:50.319 had to go prove it. 0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.319 I'll be honest, I would tell Josh this. I mean, 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:54.759 Josh is a friend of mine. I mean we have 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.440 a great relationship. I love him, loved him last year 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.640 before he had seventeen a half sacks. I've always thought he's 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.640 a has the ability to be the dude, that guy, 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.360 but me believing it, it's like Trevor. I think Trevor's 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.640 one of the best, can be one of the best quarterbacks. 0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:09.800 In the NFL. 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.640 Me thinking that doesn't really matter. At the end of 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.520 the day, you got to go do it on the field. 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.560 Trevor needs to do that. I believe he will. I 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.040 thought Josh heinz Allen had that ability, he had not 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:23.200 done it yet. 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:24.400 And he did it game wrecker. 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.920 Now when you have seventeen and half sacks Pete, yes. 0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.520 Yeah, but remember the three he had and for I 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:31.239 told him this too. 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:35.400 The three had in week one don't count, no. 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:38.000 No, but two of them maybe not there, but he had. 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:42.640 He had a bunch of rushes. But here's the other thing, Pete, 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.640 he also had one of the highest UH pressure percentages. 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.000 I mean, so I think he's gonna be I think 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.719 he's gonna be better in this defense even than he 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:50.120 was a hero. 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:50.719 I do too. 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.400 My my assessment of him is not just the seventeen 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.919 and a half sacks. Go look at his win rate. 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:58.960 In his pressure rate. It was one of the best 0:38:58.960 --> 0:38:59.560 in the NFL. 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:01.560 That's not I think it's going to be even better. 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.120 So yes, to answer the question, I think he is 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:03.760 a game wrecker. 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:04.719 Yeah, I'm with you. 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.759 Now the question becomes is does the other guy become 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.600 a game wrecker on the other side. 0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.680 Well, he closed the season pretty good, right. 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:13.799 Well, but he's not. 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.840 I mean again, we the same criticism we had in 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:19.400 the beginning of last year. We were having at the 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.520 end of last year rushing smack dab into the chest 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.720 to this the offensive tackle and so. But from talking 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.520 to people when I was up there, and you guys 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.239 have watched more practice than me, he's improved in his 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.359 hands and his ability to to bend a little bit 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.520 more and and be better with his past rush. 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.239 And I don't. I haven't. I only was there one 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.000 day and it looked that way. But I'm just the 0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:43.880 people I talked to, they said, that's been accurate. 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:49.279 Well, and I think you have to look at Trayvond. 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.359 What kind of rusher is he going to be. He's 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.719 a power player, and so if you're looking for the 0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.000 really slick like Okay, Miles Garrett, this is I mean, 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:01.880 I think he's the best pass rusher. 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.080 I think he's the best defensive end in football in 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:09.719 my opinion right now. And so if I watch Miles Garrett, 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:14.200 Miles Garrett can power you. He has great hips, he 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.799 can turn the corner, he can dip, he can use 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.919 his hands like he is, He's the best right now. 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.240 If I look at Trayvon Walker, who has a build 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.279 you know, I'm not identical, but it's like a presence 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:33.120 with length and size and strength and speed. I don't 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.520 know if he ever had I don't know if he 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.920 has the mobility and the movements of the hands and hips. 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.480 Well it's not just the twitch, it's just I mean 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.040 it's just the hips too. Where he's going to be 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:47.160 that style of rusher what I think he is. I 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:51.480 think he is developing into that power rusher who gets 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.520 you leaning and they can work the edges because you're 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:55.680 so afraid of his power. 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.120 Yeah, And I'm trying to figure out who who is like? 0:40:58.360 --> 0:40:59.239 Who is he? Like? 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.760 I mean, like it's hard to because you know, those 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:07.440 those twitchy, smaller explosive guys you could kind of compare 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.000 guys to, But where where are the big power rushers 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.719 Tony If you think back in history, where are the 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.360 big power How big was Strahan when he played? 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:16.960 Was he a big power rusher? 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:17.239 He was? 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.440 I mean he played on the left side, Pete, So 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.360 I mean the only time I ever blocked him was 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:21.920 in the Pro Bowl. 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:23.759 So I I mean you have to ask Sercey that. 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.239 I mean, what about when you guys, but when you 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.600 played against big power rushers that would be compared. 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:29.040 I'll give you. 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:33.080 I'll give you an interesting comparable that a lot of 0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.839 people don't remember, you do Pete is Sean Jones. Yes, 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:41.000 Sean Jones was a when I played taller. It was taller, 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.680 not much, not much taller when I played him in 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.680 nineteen ninety five. The first game I played, when we 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.960 played him on Sunday night in Green Bay, he came 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.880 in I think with one hundred and seven hundred and 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:52.920 eight sacks. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.439 That's a lot. 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:56.320 Wow. 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.879 And I remember playing them and it wasn't that you're 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.600 I was never worried about his him beating me athletically. 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.160 Like speed or but he was. 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:08.520 But he was six seven. 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.000 Yeah, Tray Bond six five sixty six. I mean he's 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:18.520 he's long. But Sean Jones had power and he could 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.280 lean on you and then if he got you leaning, 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.279 he'd work the rit move or he could you know, 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.200 he could get you off balance. And so that's the 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.359 type of player. You know another you know, this guy's 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.600 a Hall of Famer. But remember Chris Dolman Pete. 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:37.040 He was a big, powerful, heavy handed, hump move, rit move, 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:42.480 bull rush type of guy. Again, big bodied, lean on 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.280 you type of guy, dominant, hall of famer. 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:46.960 Uh. 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.080 And so I think that's how trade bon and and 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.759 what in watching him at the end of last year 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.880 and watching him camp so far and just seeing the 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:58.600 again small sample of work, I think that's where he's going. 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.040 He's so dominant it's to run and he can. 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.680 He's disrupted, he's violent, and I think that he's gonna 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.160 get better and better at rushing the pastor. And I 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.640 think again last year I said they'd have twenty five 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.440 They're gonna have at least twenty five stacks combined. 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.440 Again this year, come on, you gotta go higher. 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.160 Well, I'm okay, I will when it's time before the season, 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:22.000 I will. 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.360 I will walk sixty. 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.200 Yeah, Strandon was not as heavy as we got to 0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.080 go to break well back in a moment. We've got 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:31.480 special teams talk ahead. 0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.319 And we've got off season two. Talk to off season. 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.239 We got a whole hour to go we do. What 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:36.400 are you worried about? I thought it was just an 0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.839 hour tonight. No, well, you can leave if you want. 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.480 Pete and I will carry the rest. That'd be the 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:41.319 best show of the year. 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:43.040 Usually. 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.600 Hey Pete, Hey Pete. Guess what, At some point here 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.359 in the near future, we're gonna get a show without 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.160 JP that will be the best show in the history 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.719 of the franchise through the roof. Oh my goodness, they 0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.080 can't wait for just Pete and nine. 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.000 That will turn the radio off. 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.919 We're back. The Moment's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.560 Home Loans. 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:08.600 That's pretty cool. 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.279 I mean, it's pre season, it doesn't really count it, 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.799 but it was exciting to be able to start off 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:16.759 as this movie it's brand new and being able to 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:17.239 be the one. 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.640 Probably one of the first big returns. That was a 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:20.440 cool moment for. 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.040 Me and just want to continue to propel myself with that. 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.640 Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.840 That's Parker Washington on the kickoff return looking for the 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.720 MVP of the truck Game. 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Only a couple of 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.840 minutes left before the second hour of the program tonight 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.840 when we finished with special teams seventy three yard kickoff 0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.840 for turned by Washington, forty five yarder from Tank Bigsby, 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.480 who also had a good night in the running game 0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.439 as well, and then the Jaguars scored a safety when 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.640 the kickoff win in the end zone came back out 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.400 and then Mkole Hardman pulled it back in and kneel down. 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.440 They had to review it, and of course the Jaguars 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.640 feels like I have a kicker now, the place kicker, 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.040 the rookie out of Arkansas, Cam Little, has a leg 0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.239 on him. He missed the sixty two yarder, who made 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.000 his other three attempts in the game, So Pete's Special 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.120 Team's pretty good day at the office. 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.440 Yeah, and that sixty two yarder was long enough. 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:32.839 Oh, it hit the middle of the net. 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:33.759 Oh. 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:37.080 I was on the field when that was kicked, and 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.239 I didn't know how long it was where I was 0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:40.799 sitting at the other end. I'm like, I wonder how 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.640 far this is? And then I saw it go flying 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.000 with velocity into the net and I'm like, wow, it's 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.399 pretty good. I obviously missed it wide left. And when 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.319 I found out that was a sixty two yarder, that's 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.520 good bye. That's good at seventy. Yeah, oh yeah, I 0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.239 mean all day long, yep, good at seventy. 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.120 You know, it's it's interesting. And look, if you look 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:04.720 at it on the surface, you could. 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.840 Sit here and say, well, if if Washington can return 0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.120 like that, then you need to spend the money on 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.200 on Dubernay. 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.160 Yeah, I mean, do you need two returners? 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.080 You need to kick off now you do. 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.120 Look, I think teams are gonna get to the point 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:26.400 where they just kicked the ball out of the ends 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:28.000 and say go ahead and start out of thirty. 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.239 Until they changed the rule to thirty five. 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:29.480 Yeah. 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.319 I think that's what John Payton's point is is like, 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.680 make it to thirty five, then you you are in 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:34.680 a pickle. 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.279 And they said this is an ongoing process. They could 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:38.520 change things as it goes. 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.520 It stinks. It's a stupid rule. 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.000 Okay, time out, quick, you got a minute. By the way, 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:44.680 why do you think it's stupid? Real quick, and I'll 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:45.960 give you my opinion. I disagree with. 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.080 The ball on a twenty five or thirty yard line 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:49.160 and play football if you don't. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.359 If you know, I love it. You need the kick 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.200 to be a play. You got to defend it. It's 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.319 part of the game. And I think the new rule 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.879 is outstanding. I would tweak it and make it go 0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:58.839 to the thirty five if. 0:46:58.760 --> 0:46:59.479 You kick it deep. 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.359 I think it's an exciting play. That's what fans want. 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.399 It's like we're in the entertainment, but it's safe. 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.440 They want it's safer. You know, it's been getting blasted 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:07.640 the returner. 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.319 I love it. I think it's great. We'll continue this 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.239 discussion and we'll talk about the off season. That was 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:17.399 that's coming up in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:28.000 In just a moment, I did turn the day about 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:29.520 talking to people. 0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.360 See all really the assets where. 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.800 It's the but the potential it's. 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:41.160 Just unbelievable, and for me, it was about bringing that 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:45.320 all together. So you know, I'm I'm a deep believer 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.239 and never doubt Jacksonville, and I think a lot more 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:53.480 people now, you know, even outside the city, now know 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.600 that you know our potential is unlimited. 0:47:56.640 --> 0:48:00.680 Jaguars owners shot con during the game broadcast night on 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.560 the Jaguars Television Network. 0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:03.279 Welcome Back. 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.719 The second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.759 Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game, and 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:14.959 during the game. JP Shadrick, Tony Boselli from the Miller 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.080 Electric Center, the Hundai Studios and Pete Prisco down in 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.160 South Florida. Your social media questions coming up a little bit. 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.600 Will keep it real as we always do. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:27.279 And hey, the Jaguars being real. Yeah, We're gonna keep 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:27.520 it real. 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.960 Yeah. Check fake until that so fake the first hour 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.040 fake fake news. This hour real coming up. Jaguars are 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.520 the preseason Week one went over the Chiefs. Offensive and 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.200 defensive starters played two drives. The Jags did not turn 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.680 the ball over. Defense logged five sacks and thirteen quarterback 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.080 hits in the game. Special teams impacts were felt all 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.279 night two long kickoff returns and of safety. And now 0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.880 it's onto preseason Week two. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers come 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.000 to town joint practices Wednesday and Thursday here at the 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.000 Miller Electric Center. Those tickets are gone, by the way, 0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.000 and it's the final open practices of training camp. Starter 0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.360 is expected to get most of their work this week 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.320 in those practices against the Bucks. 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.120 So I want to go back to that clip that 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:13.160 we played, bringing it back with Shod Khan. 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.440 Yes, it gives us a transition to our offseason. 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.040 We talked about offseason. 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.040 Three big thing kind of areas stadium, lock it up 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.600 your guys, and then player acquisition we'll call it draft 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.440 free agency. We'll talk about all that, but start with 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:31.680 the stadium. You know what hit me watching that? And 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.560 I've heard set talk about this a bunch. How fortunate, 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:37.839 And Pete, you have a perspective because you're here. 0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:38.400 From the beginning. 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:44.120 How fortunate we've been as an organization and then also 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:48.120 as a city to have two great owners and the 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:52.960 right owners for the right moment like what Wayne Weaver 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.719 and the Weaver family did and leading the way of 0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:00.680 bringing a team to Jacksonville. And he was here when 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.000 that happened. I was obviously brought in afterwards kind of 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.800 the underdog city and to make it an NFL town 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.719 was remarkable and what he did throughout the life of 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.160 his time as the owner. He was a great owner 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:17.080 and did a great job. And then even in selling 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.759 it to find an owner that was committed to Jacksonville 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.319 because he could Wayne could have done whatever Jacksonville was 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.759 important to him. And selling it to Shad Khan who 0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:30.400 comes in no ties to Jacksonville but literally adopts Jacksonville 0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.640 and believes in the potential of this city, not just 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.759 from as an NFL city, but also from downtown and 0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:38.440 infrastructure and investment. 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.800 It's really remarkable because you don't know what you're. 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:47.080 Gonna get from the owner. I mean, and we were 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.000 fortunate with Wayne. Like I said that he was the 0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.120 owner my whole time here. Was great to work with, 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.400 great owner, and then when you transition you sell it. 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.080 You don't know how a guy coming in who has 0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.480 no real ties to the city house him and his 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.440 family going to view the city. And what the con family, 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:07.719 led by Shot have done for this organization and the 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.640 latest of getting the stadium approved this offseason with the 0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:12.440 help of the leadership from the city Council and the 0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:16.600 Mayor's office. Meridgan is tremendous. It's going to change this city. 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.040 It's going to keep this franchise here for thirty plus 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.479 more years. It's gonna, i believe, gonna kick off even 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:29.239 more development downtown from office to housing, to restaurants to entertainment, 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.440 to hotels, and going to have a state of art 0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:36.600 facility to have all kinds of events, not just NFL 0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:40.200 on Sundays concerts and everything else. I just I sat 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.440 back watching that little clip as just we were coming back, 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:43.920 and I knew this already, but it hit me in 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:47.440 Mike boy. I'm glad the franchise that I loved, and 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.879 I had no choice when I came here because that's 0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:52.160 who I drafted me. But have made it my home 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.440 that we've had. We're fortunate to have two great owners 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.600 lead this organization and be part of the leadership of 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:00.000 the city. 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.920 And the amazing thing about it, Tony is if Wayne 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:09.160 Weaver had taken the NFL up on its offer to 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:14.120 be the number one owner in Saint Louis, there might 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:15.680 not be a franchise in Jacksonville. 0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:16.000 That's right. 0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:16.680 So people don't. 0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.480 Realize that they went to Wayne and they said, Wayne, 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.360 we want you, but we want you in Saint Louis 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.120 and he said no, he said, I want Jacksonville. 0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:24.680 Wow. 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.440 And that's how it ended up in Jacksonville. And so 0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:29.680 Wayne was Wayne did a heck of a job. Was 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.319 passionate about that team, passionate about the city. And you're right, 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:35.640 Sead con has done the same thing for so many years. 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:40.120 Have we heard the stories about going to London and 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.600 moving to a new city and going here and the 0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.719 fans don't back them. And look, guys, I work with 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.360 Jason Lockafour. I've told them, I've argued with him. He 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.919 owes me dinner because of it. We made a bet. 0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.640 I said they were never going anywhere, and Sead Cohn 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:55.520 is committed to keep it that team at Jacksonville. I 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.759 think it's great for the city. It's great that they 0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.920 got the They need a new stadium to make that 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:05.400 thing fresh and new, and I think it's fantastic. But 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.120 you're right, Tony, they need to build it around. They 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.000 need to build up the city around the stadium. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.600 They have to. It's time. 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.600 I mean downtown Jacksonville, with the river being what it is, 0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:19.200 is so underutilized for what it can be. You know, 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:21.759 I've always been a big believer that if I if 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.440 I was the mayor of that city, I'd get the 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:25.080 jail the hell out of there and put it in 0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:29.520 cecil Field. I would make develops down there, bars and restaurants, 0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.640 so you can take uber from the beach or wherever 0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.280 southside and be stuck downtown. 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.680 But you have options. It's not just one, two, three places. 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:38.960 You have fifteen of them. 0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:42.640 And then you know, for right now there's nothing to 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.759 do down there. You got to make it a destination. 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:46.640 I think they will, and I think getting a stadium 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:47.520 done will help that. 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:49.520 That's the first time I had heard the Wayne Weaver 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.880 to Saint Louis story. But it's also shod Con story too. 0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:55.600 It d Rockey doesn't take the option on the Rams, 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.920 then shot cons the owner of the Rams in Saint Louis. No, 0:53:59.200 --> 0:53:59.759 That's what I'm saying. 0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:03.000 We're we are fortunate to have two guys who believed 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.640 in Jacksonville and wanted to make it work here. 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:07.439 And I love what Sead said. 0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:09.719 He goes, I'm a bleak believer in the future and 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:13.880 the potential of Jacksonville, like he has been from the beginning. 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.080 And neither one of them were Jacksonville. No I'm telling 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:19.640 you wasn't a Jacksonville guy either. 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:23.680 No, we've been fortunate two great owners at the right 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:27.920 time for the right circumstances. And that goes into the 0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:30.480 second point. I mean, look at what we did this 0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.600 offseason with signing Trevor Lawrence. 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:36.239 Let's talk about the two that happened in the offseason. 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:41.560 First, Trevor Lawrence and Josh Heinz Allen two blockbuster deals 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:45.040 and basically said and like that takes a it's yes, 0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:48.720 salary cap and yes, I'm not I mean, the owners 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.120 make a ton of money in the TV deal and 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.520 there's a lot of money and everything else. However, and 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.120 Pete knows this, and I know JP knows this too. 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.319 Not all owners are created equal when it comes to 0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:01.920 cash out lay guaranteed and what and how what you 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.160 can do. And the commitment from Shod Cohn and the 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:09.360 con family to invest in Trevor Lawrence and Josh Eines 0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.480 Allen is big time. And that's like, you got to 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.359 sign up your stars. It's important for the organization, it's 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:17.279 important for the fan base, so they have guys that 0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.880 can follow and fall in love with. And then it 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.960 can't bring in Tyson Campbell and and locking him up 0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:26.160 to a good deal for both sides. And I just 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:26.760 thought that. 0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:30.440 Was so important this offseason. And for a while, I 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:31.680 didn't know if it was gonna get done. 0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.960 I mean, you know, I wish we could have got 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.320 the Josh Eines Allen done deal a little bit earlier. 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.120 Maybe that'd give him some freedom what we did with 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.000 other people, But so be it. It didn't happen for 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:47.040 whatever reason. But getting that done and with UH, with 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:48.880 Trent as part of the process lead the way and 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.520 the front office and working with Shod and working with 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.000 Doug and everyone working together to get those two deals 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.919 done are huge. And then and Tyson Campbell as well. 0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:00.800 That's that's you got to have those players. 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.200 And here's the other thing, Tony, you mentioned the cash 0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:07.040 part of it. Look, Shod Cohn is one of the 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:10.000 wealthiest owners of the NFL. He can write checks for cash, 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.719 you know he can. But here's the difference between a 0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:16.640 lot of the other wealthy owners like we Stan Cronky 0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:22.000 as example. Kronky has the revenue stream of Los Angeles 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.160 in that stadium. There's a big difference the money that 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:28.680 comes into a franchise in a city like LA with 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.880 that stadium compared to what's coming in from this city 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.480 of Jacksonville is different, and that makes it more of 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:37.320 a challenge to come off the hip for the cash 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.479 for a guy like shod Cohn. So yeah, I mean, look, 0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.319 you had to do it. You have to lock up 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.440 your franchise quarterback, so sooner rather than later. We know 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.640 this thing's gonna keep going up. You have an edge 0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:50.400 rusher who's coming off an unreal season, he's in his prime. 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.400 You had to do it. Then we get to the 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:56.440 other one. That one is more based on what he can. 0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:59.200 Do Tyson Campbell than what he's done. 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.439 I think there's speculating a little bit more on that 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:04.040 one than on the other two. 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.640 Now Devil's advocate on that, Pete, Could you argue that 0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:09.000 with the quarterback. 0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:11.799 Too, No, No, if you go back and look at 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:15.239 the quarterbacks games in the last year and a half 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.280 year over the course of two seasons when he was healthy, 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:20.880 if you add those numbers up, no. 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:22.960 And I also think you look at the quarterback differently. 0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.200 The question you have to ask yourself, can we envision 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:30.200 this guy leading us to his championship? And unequivocal yes, 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:31.800 with Trevor Lawrence. 0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:36.040 Well, here's the other thing about about the Campbell and 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:41.440 and the Hinds Allen signings. They're getting what top five 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:43.400 money at the position both of them. 0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:44.800 Is Tyson Campbell top five? 0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:46.320 Pete, I wasn't thinking. 0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:49.600 I wasn't sure that I believe Josh is. 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.840 Yeah, I think he's close. But if he if he 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:54.320 if he's if he's one of. 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:57.640 The top five paid corners, he's certainly not one of 0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.160 the top five corners in the league. 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:01.920 No, not at this point. 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:03.920 The way I looked at it and looked at the 0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:06.880 structure of the deal, and I just full disclosure. It's 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.640 not like I spent a bunch of time on this comparing, 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:12.320 you know, his deal to other corners. But the sense 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:14.200 I got Pete it was I thought it was a 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:17.400 smart move. If you believe that he is a he's 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.160 your number one corner and it can be that for 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:22.280 a while, especially in the style of defense that Ryan 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:26.800 Nielsen wants to play, because that's a premium position and 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.120 he's he's not going to get any cheaper. 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.720 When he's a free agent, and you know that if 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:33.080 if you. 0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.120 Get to the third year of that deal, and they'll 0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.200 tear it up because he's his cap figure is twenty 0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:40.080 three to nine, twenty four to eight in those you know, 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:40.680 so it's. 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.360 Yeah, Well, because you know this beat, if they will 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.080 let him get the free agency, let's just say he's 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.479 the top ten corner somebody's gonna pay him a bunch 0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:50.440 of money because that's a premium position. Tyson Campbell. 0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.400 Now the uh let's see one, two, three, four, seventh 0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:55.280 highest paid average per year? 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:55.800 Yeah, corner. 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:58.840 Is he the seventh best cornerback in the league? So 0:58:58.880 --> 0:58:59.880 as of right now, he's not. 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:00.880 No, he's not. 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.560 But Trevor is one of the top five highest paid quarterbacks. 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:05.200 And if you asked anyone, is he one of the 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:07.480 top five quarterbacks? No, but that you can't. 0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.880 I think that the point earlier quarterbacks a different position. 0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:11.200 When I. 0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:16.840 Agree with that, however, I also think it's smart that 0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.120 you have to be looking forward because you can't put 0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.840 yourself in a position as an organization what happened with 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.280 Josh heinz Allen last year, where you are now at 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:29.280 the mercy of either a franchise tag or negotiating against 0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:32.040 the rest of the league to try to keep your guys. 0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:37.600 If you believe and obviously Trent Doug and the powers 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.040 that be believe that Tyson Campbell is your number one 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.080 corner and can be that for the long term, and 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.160 that he fits how you want to play football and 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.960 play defense. If that's the case, I'm okay paying a 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:52.480 little bit more earlier because that number is going to 0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:55.840 grow and next year, guess what he'll be about the 0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:57.520 twelfth highest paid corner in the league. 0:59:57.800 --> 0:59:59.720 Well, he has to be a top ten corner this year, 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:01.000 though you would agree. 1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:02.880 With that, Yeah, I mean that's what that's what you're projecting. 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:03.640 Top ten. 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.560 Yeah, that's what you're projecting, no doubt about it. But 1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:09.000 you know this works. You could be a top five, 1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:11.600 top seven paid player, whatever the metric is. 1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.720 The next year, you're not gonna be. That doesn't last long. 1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:17.640 It does because the caps only going up and guys 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.200 are only gonna get paid more money. And it's only 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.360 it's gonna if they go to eighteen games, it's gonna 1:00:22.360 --> 1:00:23.320 increase even more. 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:26.600 And so of the three, that one was a little 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:29.160 the more most eye opening of the three deal. 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:30.760 I wouldn't say it was eye opening, Pete. 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:32.760 It did catch me by surprise that they were that 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:35.040 proactive thinking ahead, and I liked it though. I thought 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:36.760 it was a good move by Trent, and I thought 1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:38.800 they did a good job getting him locked up because 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:39.360 I do think. 1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:42.720 He's a he's a he's a top half quarter in 1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:43.440 this league. 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:46.840 He's paid like a top top corner. 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:49.160 So he's paid like a top No think about this. 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:50.320 Be hold on a. 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:53.120 Top half corner makes you you know what, thirty two 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:56.040 better than thirty two in your top half quarner. 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.360 No, I said when I was saying, he's a top sixteen, 1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:01.840 top half number one corn so I got a thirty 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:04.840 two teams, I think you would say he's one of 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:06.840 the top sixteen corners in this league. 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.240 What is that face? Look at that thing? 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:14.240 Well, I mean, seriously, I don't know if he's he's 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:15.240 ten to fifteen. 1:01:15.960 --> 1:01:18.760 Well a year ago, before last year, he was one 1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:21.200 of the highest rate PFF corners in the NFL. 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:22.520 Is still. 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:25.960 You're good? 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:29.080 I was hoping you guys wouldn't. I was actually hoping 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:31.960 you wouldn't catch that. I use it. 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:33.280 What does the world come to? 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:37.280 I was hold that would slide by on the download man. 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:40.920 Fair enough, I got caught by the way. 1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:43.720 Ten to fifteen is still top sixteen, Pete. 1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:47.680 No, you think he's a ten to fifteen of the 1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:49.200 number one corners in the league. 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:49.600 Problem? 1:01:49.840 --> 1:01:51.120 Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:53.960 But here's the problem. Some teams have two that are 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:56.040 better than eh. 1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:57.080 I don't know about that. 1:01:57.720 --> 1:01:59.959 We've got plenty ahead. We haven't even touched play calling. 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:01.439 Well, we're not going to get to that. We're talking. 1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:03.479 I want to talk free agency and draft real quick, 1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:05.560 because I think that was like listen, we have not 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:07.760 talked about it. I'd love Pete's opinion because they went 1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:11.680 I'll say this on the free agency side, they went 1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:15.400 with older guys and there's risk in that. 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:16.760 Now they got good players. 1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:20.760 Mitch Morris good player, ten year guy, Eric Armstead good player, 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:24.600 ten year guy coming off injuries, Darby older player. I 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.480 mean they went after older guys. Now Kave Davis is 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:28.200 a fifth year guy. 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:30.560 But they're all from winning organizations too. 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:33.280 I'm not saying that, but I don't know if you 1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:39.600 know this, uh JP, Old guys usually don't get healthier, stronger, 1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:40.080 and faster. 1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:43.440 It's a young man. 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:47.640 I'm not being don't take this as critical of any 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:50.360 of those guys, because they're all really good players, and 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:54.280 if they are healthy. They make this team better, and 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:58.120 so I understand why, but it's not without some risk. 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:04.160 Not so questions are what do they have left? I mean, 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:05.000 I'll be honest. 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:07.800 I was in Buffalo last week and I asked about 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:09.560 Morse and they liked him. 1:03:09.920 --> 1:03:11.600 They liked him around. He's a great guy to have 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:12.160 in the building. 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:15.800 But you know, some people were wondering how much does 1:03:15.800 --> 1:03:18.720 he have left and how much will he be committed 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:20.800 to it for past past a couple of years. I mean, 1:03:20.840 --> 1:03:23.600 that's that's the issue. When you signed guys like that. 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:27.720 A couple of years, two years. 1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:30.360 Tony's right, ten years is that's a long time in 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:31.640 the NFL. You No. 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:37.240 My only point is I'm less worried about Mitch Morris 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:40.000 because if you look at his career, there's no there's 1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:43.479 no like glaring injury history. He had concussions at one point, 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:46.200 he did, but he's been consistent on the field the 1:03:46.280 --> 1:03:48.560 last several years. Pete, if I'm not mistaken. 1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:49.800 He's a good and he's a good player. 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:53.919 But by the way, it's like somebody told me once, wait, 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:56.360 long time ago, they wanted to get rid of Tebow 1:03:56.440 --> 1:03:58.200 and Denver, and the only way they could get rid 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:00.960 of him was to sign Peyton Man. They didn't care 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:02.560 if he was healthy or not. It got him out 1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:04.920 of there. Well, you know what, you got to get 1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:06.600 somebody in there to get rid of Luke Fordner in 1:04:06.600 --> 1:04:08.640 the middle of that line to become an effective offense. 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:11.000 They got somebody. So if if it's for a year 1:04:11.080 --> 1:04:12.360 or two, they did the right thing. 1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:17.120 And okay, but I'm just looking. I mean, you look 1:04:17.160 --> 1:04:20.280 at like Eric Armstead. I think Air Armstead healthy is 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:22.080 one of the better three techniques in this league. 1:04:22.720 --> 1:04:24.080 And he's long, and he's. 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:28.560 A very good pass rusher. He's played on winning teams. 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:31.240 He's a physical force. But he's also a ten year 1:04:31.280 --> 1:04:33.520 guy coming off of a surgery. 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:34.560 And he hasn't practiced yet. 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:38.280 Right, And I'm not like I'm a believer in Eric Armstead. 1:04:38.280 --> 1:04:42.040 I'm just saying, when you take that path, that strategy 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:45.840 where we're gonna go get veteran guys, older guys winning 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:48.040 organizations because we want to change the locker room, we 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:50.440 want to change the mentality, we want that winning culture. 1:04:51.600 --> 1:04:54.360 Those are all positives. I raised my hand, I'm in 1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:58.080 and guess what, A lot of times that works. But 1:04:58.120 --> 1:05:01.280 there's risk with that and if you look at what 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:04.080 we did up front, besides that, especially in the offensive line, 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:07.480 we didn't do much else. Now, on the defensive line, 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:09.360 they did go in the draft and got Mason Smith 1:05:09.520 --> 1:05:12.959 and they made some other moves. But that's the one 1:05:13.000 --> 1:05:15.440 thing that it will be interesting Like that would be 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:17.640 my only criticism of the offseason. 1:05:17.800 --> 1:05:18.520 We gotta come back. 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:20.320 We'll say this, I know you gotta break j one 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:20.800 quick thing. 1:05:20.920 --> 1:05:23.240 One of those off young offensive lineman caught my eye 1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:24.160 on tape the other day. 1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:26.200 By the way, was it the guy who played right 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:27.200 guard then left guard? 1:05:27.760 --> 1:05:30.400 Yes, yep, that guy needs to play. 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:32.280 I was gonna say, well, let's come back to the 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:34.800 offensive line because I'm with you, Pete. 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.120 But where do you play him and whose job does 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:37.520 he take? 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:40.520 Yeah, we're gonna keep it real when we come back. 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:42.360 That might be a good keep it real. I think 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:43.960 it's great and I want to make sure before we 1:05:44.000 --> 1:05:44.439 go to break. 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:48.040 Yes, I'm not being critical of Eric Armistead, Mitch Morris 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:51.480 or their signings at all. They're starting caliber. They make 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:53.920 you better. My only point is when you sign ten 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:58.760 year guys that have history like that's always a concern. 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:03.320 Now being critical that means they're trying. Pete, Pete, do 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:04.040 you disagree with me? 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:06.440 I'm not being I agree with you, but we're being critical. 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:07.880 We're making it okay. 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:08.080 Fair. 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:12.680 Chubbies brought in I mean wings tonight, chicken raps for 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:16.120 our production staff. 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JP Shadwick Tony Boselli 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:01.480 from the Miller Electric Center, the Hyundai's Studios Pee Prisco 1:07:01.600 --> 1:07:05.800 down in South Florida. Time for Keeping It Real presented 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:10.600 by Well it's available this year. We've got a couple 1:07:10.640 --> 1:07:13.479 of topics tonight. We started with the offensive line, as 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:17.280 Tony referenced earlier, and we got our first look at 1:07:17.400 --> 1:07:20.600 guys in the game and the most offensive snaps. For 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.600 the offensive line, cole Van Lannon and Cooper Hodges each 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:26.360 played forty nine snaps in the game eighty four percent 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:30.280 of the offensive snaps. Luke Fordner got thirty four snaps, 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.840 fifty nine percent, Walker Little, who started at right tackle, 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:37.520 played thirty snaps in the game. Javon Foster, the addition 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:40.240 from Missouri in the draft, forty eight percent, and Shatley 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:43.120 got a bunch of snaps at guard. The starters Robinson 1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:46.560 Morrison Sheriff each had nine snaps and left the game, 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.320 And of course Anton Harrison out with a concussion, and 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:52.120 left guard Ezra Cleveland did not play in the game. 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:56.760 So you guys referenced a player who played right guard 1:07:56.880 --> 1:07:58.640 and left guard in the game. 1:07:58.760 --> 1:08:01.840 Well, based on what you just said, Cooper Hodges, I 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:07.360 was impressed, and you know he fought that he got hurt. 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:07.840 Last year. 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:10.640 He had a good camp till he got hurt. This 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:12.600 camp he had I think he had something to bother 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:13.160 him early. 1:08:13.200 --> 1:08:15.520 I don't know if it was ever a discloser, but there's. 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:19.040 Something he felt like and I remember watching some limitations 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:24.040 or something he played during camp. He's played center, He's 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:28.519 played guard a lot of center. That's what Jeff's told me. 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:30.600 I haven't seen as many practices he has, and so 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:34.200 I was really interested to see what he did when 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:36.680 he came into the game because. 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:39.240 He is a big, powerful man. 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:41.920 Like he is strong, and I think one of the 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:45.640 criticisms that I had last year of this team was 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:48.479 that we struggled to move the ball, moved the line 1:08:48.479 --> 1:08:50.720 of scrimmage, control line scrimmage, third and one, third and 1:08:50.760 --> 1:08:54.400 two fourth and one goal line situations, played a lot 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:57.000 of two point stance, and we didn't really displace the. 1:08:56.960 --> 1:09:03.160 Defensive line very often. Watching Hodges, he moves people. He 1:09:03.280 --> 1:09:07.960 is physical. He's a big, strong man, and if it continues, 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:09.320 I think you got to find a way to get 1:09:09.360 --> 1:09:12.160 him on the field. Now it's one preseason game. We'll 1:09:12.160 --> 1:09:15.479 see what he does during Uh. He's really a rookie 1:09:15.520 --> 1:09:17.200 if you think about it, because he's not played any 1:09:17.439 --> 1:09:20.640 NFL games. It would be interesting to see how he 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:23.599 matches up against the Bucks and these two practices. He's 1:09:23.600 --> 1:09:25.080 going to get a lot of reps because I don't 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:26.639 think the starters are going to play much in the game, 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:29.000 so that means he's going to play a lot. But 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:37.160 early indications very positive, and that's what you need to do. 1:09:37.280 --> 1:09:38.960 I mean the mid mid round. 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:43.519 Pick small school, smaller school, we'll play tackle in college. 1:09:43.560 --> 1:09:44.120 You bring him in. 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:47.320 He's a guard and he has a physicality that can 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:49.840 help you win football games. And I thought he played well. 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:54.080 Yeah, I thought he was really physical playing right and 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:56.679 he looked more comfortable on the right side. Tony, I thought, 1:09:56.800 --> 1:09:59.200 I thought he looked much more comfortable on the right side, 1:10:00.120 --> 1:10:03.000 really got into people, moved him in the run game, 1:10:03.479 --> 1:10:05.960 got off his blocks, and got to the second level, 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:09.559 which again sometimes when you're a big, powerful guy, that's 1:10:09.560 --> 1:10:10.720 not necessarily. 1:10:10.280 --> 1:10:11.840 A strength of yours, and you know they want to 1:10:11.880 --> 1:10:14.120 do a lot of that. So I was impressed. 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:19.599 And look, if he continues to play like that, dare 1:10:19.640 --> 1:10:21.280 we say it that maybe he's a starter? 1:10:23.240 --> 1:10:24.240 So who do you bench? 1:10:27.200 --> 1:10:29.560 I know where I would I play the right guard. 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:31.960 Paying a lot of money for your right guard Pete 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:33.280 to have him as a backup. 1:10:34.640 --> 1:10:38.200 Okay, but you you said something before that I thought 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:41.080 was very telling about. 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:43.760 The right guard isn't as physical as he used to be. 1:10:44.080 --> 1:10:47.240 No, I mean he's he's played a lot of football, 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:50.080 tenth to your player, a lot of football. He doesn't. 1:10:50.200 --> 1:10:53.200 He's not, he's not. He's on another team. 1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:55.000 He signed him to a deal next year. 1:10:57.439 --> 1:10:59.679 I mean, like if I want, if I. 1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:01.479 If I you guys didn't laugh at that one. 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:04.240 I'm trying. I'm talking about I'm trying to be nice 1:11:04.280 --> 1:11:12.679 Pete and not engage in your ridiculous comments. But I mean, 1:11:12.800 --> 1:11:15.600 if you if you look at Brandon Sheriff, he is 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:21.320 a veteran leader, really smart football player. He's a pros pro. 1:11:21.960 --> 1:11:26.000 I think he's still very good. What I still think 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:29.080 he is a good past, good pass blocker. He's not 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:31.720 he's gonna never gonna be in the wrong position. He's 1:11:31.760 --> 1:11:35.559 not gonna have missed assignments. But the but he's not 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:38.040 gonna he's not a road grader. He doesn't have the 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:40.800 legs that he once did. He's not gonna you know, 1:11:43.080 --> 1:11:46.639 move people like a younger. Like as not his game anymore. 1:11:46.920 --> 1:11:53.479 And but he's still a good football player. So I mean, 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:56.840 and they signed Ezra Cleveland offseason paid him some money 1:11:56.840 --> 1:11:57.880 to be a starter as well. 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.439 There's only spots, only two guards. 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:04.240 But don't you think, don't you think Hodges look better 1:12:04.280 --> 1:12:06.240 on the right side than he did in the left though. 1:12:06.200 --> 1:12:08.120 I'd have to I'd have to watch it closer. Pete, 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:09.880 I didn't jump, that didn't jump out at me. 1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:12.799 Watch it, watch it, you'll see. 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:13.840 But I thought what. 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.560 Jumped out of what jumped out at me is his physicality, 1:12:16.960 --> 1:12:18.720 No doubt, that's what jumped out at me. 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:21.599 So now it's early, small sample size. 1:12:22.280 --> 1:12:24.679 Listen, that wasn't exactly playing Chris Jones either. 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:26.040 No, no, no, he was not. 1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:30.200 And so yeah, like, how does he handle a elite 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:34.040 like we know that Brandon Sheriff against elite three techniques 1:12:34.920 --> 1:12:38.120 can manage the situation, and it's savvy enough to figure 1:12:38.120 --> 1:12:40.320 out how to you know, play against a guy like 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:43.920 that just because of his instincts, his knowledge, his you 1:12:43.960 --> 1:12:45.960 know everything about him, and he's athletic. 1:12:46.640 --> 1:12:50.559 But but but on the surface, looking at the two 1:12:50.600 --> 1:12:52.880 and the way their style of play is, if you 1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:56.920 want to be a better running team, which they want 1:12:57.000 --> 1:12:59.880 to be, he would seem to be more apt to 1:12:59.880 --> 1:13:02.120 be that guy that would amp up the run game. 1:13:02.560 --> 1:13:04.400 I would agree with that. I just don't. 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:06.799 I mean, you're gonna have had like this, By the way, 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:08.960 this is what you want. This is how this is 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:11.080 a good sign that you're a good team. Like you 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:15.000 want hard decisions like that to be in front of you. Like, 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:17.800 we have multiple guys that we think are starters. How 1:13:17.800 --> 1:13:20.599 do we organize this and who who? What gives us 1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:22.720 the best opportunity to play the style football that we 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:23.320 want to play. 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:27.400 What'd you think of the left tackle? The starter? 1:13:29.400 --> 1:13:31.479 Small? I mean yeah, fine? 1:13:31.640 --> 1:13:35.080 Just what did you think of Walker Little at right tackle? 1:13:35.760 --> 1:13:39.360 Same thing? Fine? I mean I thought it was fine. No, 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:40.519 I mean I didn't. I didn't. 1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:43.479 Wasn't jumping out of my chair going that was amazing. 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:45.320 But there was nothing that you watch it like, oh 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:50.640 my gosh, we're in trouble. I mean no, So I 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:52.280 mean you always gotta be careful, I think with the 1:13:52.360 --> 1:13:56.360 veterans sometimes in these early preseason games. Yeah, you know, 1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:58.960 how much Like how much juice did Cam really go 1:13:59.040 --> 1:13:59.400 out there? 1:14:00.200 --> 1:14:03.000 Yeah? When it gets real, he always has he has 1:14:03.040 --> 1:14:03.400 the juice. 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:06.599 Okay, but Tony, you played the preseason sometimes that if 1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:10.479 you didn't, If you didn't, you didn't have the same juice, 1:14:10.520 --> 1:14:13.040 but when you lined up, you're playing. 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:15.040 You're not gonna let somebody beat you either. 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:20.120 No new So that's why I hated preseason, because you 1:14:20.200 --> 1:14:22.160 go in there with not as much juice. You're trying 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:25.240 to just you know, if I'm being honest, there's times 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:26.920 I'm like, you're counting the plays to get through the 1:14:26.960 --> 1:14:31.280 quarter or the half or whatever, because you know you're 1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:36.280 not it's not about winning or losing per se. I mean, overall, 1:14:36.320 --> 1:14:37.680 you want to win the game, but you're not going 1:14:37.760 --> 1:14:39.920 to be in it to impact it. And so really 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:41.920 you're going out there to try to get good work, 1:14:42.479 --> 1:14:44.880 put good film on it on tape, I mean, put 1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:48.439 good work on film and uh. And the other thing 1:14:48.479 --> 1:14:50.599 is I didn't want to be embarrassed because I knew 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:52.160 I was gonna have to watch it with Mike Maser 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:56.120 the next day. I had no desire to have my 1:14:56.439 --> 1:15:01.400 you know what ripped. And then there's just professional pride. 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:03.720 You're stepping on the field and you know that the 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:08.439 other thirty one teams are gonna see this. But it's harder. 1:15:08.560 --> 1:15:10.559 I mean, if I'm being honest, Pete, it was harder. 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:13.400 Oh yeah, as a veteran, I didn't like, I'm like, 1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:16.400 my goodness, like we're gonna go out there, especially if 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:18.639 like you're playing some young guy who's trying to do 1:15:18.720 --> 1:15:20.720 something impressive. I'm like, listen, I'm just trying to get 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:22.439 my work in like. 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:25.200 He's trying to do. To the preseason. 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:28.479 I'm like, come on, you know, and I'll tell Pete. 1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:31.519 I'll tell a story my second year, and I'll be 1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:36.640 quick because I know we're playing the Rams in the 1:15:36.680 --> 1:15:43.160 preseason and uh, Leslie O'Neill is the right end in 1:15:43.200 --> 1:15:46.720 the preseason, and you know, growing up in the NFC West, 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:49.160 he was at San Diego Charger, forever Pro Bowl player, 1:15:49.280 --> 1:15:51.599 All Proague, one of the best, I mean, really good 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:53.240 right end, top right end. 1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:55.240 And I remember going to the game. 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:57.720 I was like, I was a little anxious and nervous, like, hey, 1:15:57.720 --> 1:16:00.400 I got I got a good player, and I went 1:16:00.439 --> 1:16:02.640 and just wore him out the preseason. I mean, I 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:07.400 was like, come on, what's going on here? We played 1:16:07.439 --> 1:16:09.799 him six weeks seven weeks later in the regular season, 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:12.759 and I'll remember, never forget the first series. 1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:16.799 It was a different dude. I walked to the sideline, 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:20.720 I'm like, okay, uh, this is a different guy I'm 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:22.280 playing because you know, I went into the game like 1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:24.000 I know this guy feel good. I mean, it's gonna 1:16:24.000 --> 1:16:24.439 be a problem. 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:27.800 And it was a It was a fistfight for sixty 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:30.360 minutes against Leslie O'Neill because he dial it up. It 1:16:30.400 --> 1:16:32.800 was a different pace and everything else, which I should 1:16:32.800 --> 1:16:36.400 have known. It was my second year. But as a 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:37.919 veteran guy, you gotta. 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:40.519 Be careful not to. 1:16:39.520 --> 1:16:42.040 Take it too easy or too lacks of days ago. 1:16:42.040 --> 1:16:44.439 You have to bring enough energy because one, it's a 1:16:44.520 --> 1:16:46.000 dangerous game. You don't want to get hurt. You don't 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:48.160 want to get someone else hurt, and you don't want 1:16:48.160 --> 1:16:49.840 to look like a fool on the field. So but 1:16:50.840 --> 1:16:54.200 that's a long way of saying Cam, like was it great? 1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:56.720 Was it bad? It's like, Okay, he went out, got 1:16:56.760 --> 1:16:57.400 some working nine. 1:16:57.720 --> 1:16:59.920 Give me the five starting line offensive lineman on a. 1:17:00.920 --> 1:17:02.519 It's gonna be right now. 1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:09.719 I'm gonna say Cam left, Ezra left guard, Mitch center, 1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:13.160 Brandon right guard, and Anton Harrison right tackle. 1:17:13.439 --> 1:17:16.960 Okay, give me the starting lineup six weeks in fete. 1:17:17.000 --> 1:17:21.160 I don't know. I'm not going down that path, you. 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:23.160 Know, because we've heard all about Cooper Hodges and so 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.360 I was like a little you know, sometimes you hear this. 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:29.080 Oh, I was so tired of Jeff Logman. It has 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:30.800 a man crush on Cooper Hodges. 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:34.479 When I was there, he was talking about I'm like, Jeff, 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:37.120 stop here. And then when I watched the tape, I 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:39.240 went yeah, And. 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:43.560 I hate I hate admitting that Logman's right about anything, 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:44.880 but he was dead on on that one. 1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:45.040 Man. 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:48.480 I was like, he was credit. 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:50.200 Carries over at some point, he's got to get on 1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:50.880 the field. 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:52.120 Well he plays like that. 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:52.479 Pete. 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:56.560 Yes, that is keeping it real And we're back in 1:17:56.600 --> 1:18:00.719 a moment with fanatics, fan questions, and plenty more ahead 1:18:01.120 --> 1:18:04.679 in the final half hour of Jaguars Happy Hour presented 1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:14.719 by Mister Chubby's Wings. Jaguars Happy Hour continues our second 1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:18.679 hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, Jap Shatterick Tony Busselli 1:18:18.720 --> 1:18:21.080 from the middle of Electric Center in the Hyundai Studios. 1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:22.919 After preseason Week one. 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.800 Jaguars went over the chief Sits onto Week two, the 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:29.720 Buccaneers come to town for Wednesday Thursday joint practices, then 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:33.840 the game Saturday night at the Bank. The Buccaneers and 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:35.960 the Jaguars coming up time now for the fanatics. So 1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:38.640 oh yeah, Pete Prisco's here too. He's done in South Florida. 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:40.559 By the way, by the way real quick before this. 1:18:40.960 --> 1:18:44.280 So our sponsor for keeping it real is gone. 1:18:44.560 --> 1:18:45.960 Yes, Bob is no longer. 1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:47.920 And Bob never sent us a damn. 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:49.799 Thing, did Damn we didn't get anything. 1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:53.040 So now we sounded a sponsor. We could take a 1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:55.559 rip into them for that not sending us anything. 1:18:56.080 --> 1:18:59.160 You have the floor, Pete, But okay, but no, don't 1:18:59.160 --> 1:18:59.519 mention that. 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:00.439 Don't bring it up. 1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:03.639 Let's tell the city of Jacksonville. Somebody out there wants 1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:07.080 to sponsor that segment. Don't they come on our big 1:19:07.120 --> 1:19:08.000 listening audience. 1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:09.840 Oh, it's not sponsored yet. I didn't pay. 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:12.519 You didn't miss the part that I said it's available. No, 1:19:12.640 --> 1:19:14.639 I did not. You listen. I don't listen to. 1:19:14.560 --> 1:19:19.680 You often we met you think Pete to pronoun. 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:23.639 McCardell. McCardell. I got it, Pete. 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:27.160 Jimmy smythe was the other WI Jimmy Smith. 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:30.759 First of all, Heinz Walker does not exist on the planet. 1:19:31.600 --> 1:19:33.960 Okay, I didn't play with it either. 1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:36.240 You you just interviewed. 1:19:36.360 --> 1:19:38.160 Both of them had twelve years with the. 1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:42.800 Let's get to the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans gear 1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:46.600 up at fanatics dot com with all the latest jag styles. 1:19:46.600 --> 1:19:50.360 Shop now and get today's special offer. Fanatics dot Com 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:53.680 officially licensed everything. We put the cat signal on x 1:19:53.720 --> 1:19:54.479 earlier today. 1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:57.160 Here's the best we've come up with. It was blowing up. 1:19:57.200 --> 1:20:00.639 I had sea paying Tony. It's hard. You and Peter 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:01.640 are the same species. 1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:02.000 We're not. 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:07.080 I'm a grown man and Pete is a little person. 1:20:08.040 --> 1:20:10.679 I'm a short person, but I'm not a little person. 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:11.719 I'm a short person. 1:20:11.840 --> 1:20:13.200 Oh, I was trying to Now, I was trying to. 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:15.240 I was gonna say short because you used to be 1:20:15.280 --> 1:20:17.479 short and wide. Now you're just short and little. 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:19.160 Well, you used to be tall and wide. 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:25.880 Fair enough, fair enough. There's a little height discrepancy there. 1:20:25.920 --> 1:20:28.519 Seth pain of course. Former Jaguars defensive tackle now a 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.240 radio host down in Houston. Pete, how much weight have 1:20:31.320 --> 1:20:32.599 you lost? 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:33.960 About forty something? 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:37.080 It's pretty good. Do you want to lose any more? 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:40.880 Yeah? Close? 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:44.280 It depends what the doctor says. If he says yes, 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.519 then I'll go. If he says no, I won't. Okay, 1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:47.920 I got appointment in two weeks. 1:20:50.200 --> 1:20:52.599 You keep tracking. You might want to start keeping track 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:54.719 too for yourself. 1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:58.080 So cruel, I'm not what are you talking about? 1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:00.719 Man? All of a sudden, the first I'm in a decade, 1:21:00.720 --> 1:21:03.320 you're a skinny guy, and now you're it's two judge, 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:07.200 it's actually like three deersonal attacks. It's been I was 1:21:07.240 --> 1:21:08.880 skinny last year. I haven't lost that much a way 1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:09.559 from last year. 1:21:09.960 --> 1:21:11.000 Yes you have, I have not. 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:13.280 P It's a shame. It's a shame we didn't get 1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:15.840 to take the picture this year. Then we could have 1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:16.400 seen how. 1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:20.040 Speedy in that picture last year, I weighed probably two 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:21.599 fifty to fifty two. 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:23.719 And for those just joining us, I put the picture 1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:25.320 from last year of us three together. 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:27.240 I can't x today and I. 1:21:27.400 --> 1:21:29.720 And im and I'm smaller than that and that pic 1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:30.519 that wasn't. 1:21:30.479 --> 1:21:32.400 Yeah, I was probably to fifty two there and I'm 1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:34.519 two forty two to forty five now, I mean I'm 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:40.720 smaller than that too, for the record, Now you're not 1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:47.559 not really. Next question at Jinja Ninja five eight, did 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:49.800 the Jags do enough on the O line? How much 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:52.920 of the run game struggles is personnel versus scheme? 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:56.160 Well, listen, I mean Pete and I are both the 1:21:56.160 --> 1:21:58.479 same on this one where it's about Jimmy's and Joe's, 1:21:58.479 --> 1:22:00.840 not x's and O's. And obviously coach he's important and 1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:03.599 technique is important. I think Phil Roush is a very 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:09.080 good offensive line coach. And so now, do I think 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:10.679 they needed to be put their hand in the dirt 1:22:10.680 --> 1:22:12.160 a little bit more than they did last year? Yeah, 1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:14.559 I mean I've said that's the phil I mean, but 1:22:14.640 --> 1:22:16.200 they had a philosophy of that what they were trying 1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:18.719 to do offensively and what they thought they could do great. 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:21.840 I think they change it this year. They could be 1:22:21.840 --> 1:22:23.240 more hand in the ground. So if you want to 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:28.200 call that, you know, technique or philosophy or scheme. 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:28.639 That's fair. 1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:31.280 But if you look at what they did, I mean, 1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:33.639 let's call it what it is. They felt like they're 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:37.240 good enough upfront except for the center, because they're rolling 1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:40.800 out the same offensive line outside of the center, and 1:22:40.880 --> 1:22:41.920 so they basically said. 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:44.880 We were stood straight up last year. This guy does it. 1:22:45.000 --> 1:22:45.759 That's the difference. 1:22:46.000 --> 1:22:51.439 Pete, Like, I think we agree, but that I mean, 1:22:51.479 --> 1:22:53.760 I think the organization agrees. I mean, all you can 1:22:53.800 --> 1:22:56.320 do is judge it by what they did this offseason, 1:22:56.920 --> 1:23:00.519 and they basically said our room is good enough as is, 1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:02.600 except for the center, and we're going to bring in 1:23:02.640 --> 1:23:05.680 a veteran center to fill that hole. And at the 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:07.559 same time developed some of these younger guys like Cooper 1:23:07.560 --> 1:23:09.120 Hodges and so on and so forth. 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:10.280 You always got to be doing that. 1:23:10.680 --> 1:23:13.479 But as far as coming out of the last game 1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:17.240 last year, and they evaluated the offseason, and they evaluated 1:23:17.240 --> 1:23:20.519 personnel between Trent and Doug, and in this case, I'm 1:23:20.520 --> 1:23:22.920 sure Phil Rauscher, the offensive line coach, had a voice 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:26.760 and they looked at their room and said, we just 1:23:26.800 --> 1:23:28.920 need to upgrade the center and we are good enough 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:31.040 to win and win a championship, because that's the goal. 1:23:31.280 --> 1:23:35.200 I mean, the goal is to win and win. 1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:35.760 You know what I mean. 1:23:36.320 --> 1:23:37.880 And I'm pretty I didn't hear it, but I've heard 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:41.200 people tell me on the broadcast. Our owner shot con 1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:43.960 was pretty clear on the broadcast like we're here to 1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:46.320 win now. I mean, I didn't hear the whole thing, 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:48.400 but that's what I was told by people who did listen. 1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:52.040 I'm sure you heard it, JP kright, you did not, Okay, Stad, 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:54.679 That's right, you were in the stadium. But I think 1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:57.640 the emphasis is like we're going to win now, and 1:23:57.680 --> 1:23:59.800 they felt like the only change they needed to make 1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:04.639 to do that is change the center out. So it's 1:24:04.640 --> 1:24:07.439 the same group with a new center. And do I 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:08.479 think it's another that. 1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:10.880 Might have a new right guard right now? 1:24:10.920 --> 1:24:13.240 It's the same group with a new center. And do 1:24:13.320 --> 1:24:15.960 I think Mitch Morris is a better center than Luke Fordner? 1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:19.599 I do? Do I think he makes them better? I do? 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:21.679 Do I think they'll be better in the run game 1:24:21.720 --> 1:24:24.040 and in past game and protection because of him. 1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:24.400 I do. 1:24:25.040 --> 1:24:27.759 And Plus you got to assume the growth of Harrison 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:28.479 at right tackle. 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:31.799 M hm, well, that's the only young player you're expecting 1:24:31.840 --> 1:24:32.400 to get better. 1:24:33.880 --> 1:24:36.719 Well, the growth of Cooper Hodge is at right guard. 1:24:38.320 --> 1:24:41.400 As I said, going in now, obviously they believe in 1:24:41.520 --> 1:24:44.599 Cooper Hodges and and I do too, especially after what 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:45.120 I saw. 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:50.439 Guy. He's more of an athletic guy. You can get moved, 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:51.200 and he is that. 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:53.160 He is good at the next level. He's athletic, but 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:56.240 there's an Ezra has a little nastiness to him. He's 1:24:56.240 --> 1:25:03.000 a he's a tough But that's the bet they made 1:25:03.320 --> 1:25:04.160 in the offseason. 1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:08.360 Just I think they'll be better, just because the center's 1:25:08.360 --> 1:25:09.320 not in there too. 1:25:10.600 --> 1:25:15.000 Next question at Tartan Teal buzzing that the show is Backfellas, 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:17.680 which second year guy are you expecting to make the 1:25:17.840 --> 1:25:21.400 biggest jump this season? You mentioned a few second year guys. 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:25.519 Who makes the biggest jump of year two players? 1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:28.800 I'm gonna We've talked enough about Cooper Hodges and I 1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:30.280 don't know if he's gonna be a starter, so set 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:30.879 him aside. 1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:34.040 Offensively, I'm gonna go with Tank big By. 1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:35.880 He looked good at the other season. 1:25:36.240 --> 1:25:39.480 I think he's gonna make the biggest jump uh. 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:42.280 And I think they are gonna you know, we heard 1:25:42.280 --> 1:25:43.880 a lot about in the offseas about on boarding a 1:25:43.920 --> 1:25:45.960 players and so on and so forth. I think they 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:47.880 have a plan and they're gonna stick to it with Tank, 1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:51.320 and I think he's gonna be a big part of uh, 1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:52.400 of the offense. 1:25:52.520 --> 1:25:56.200 I think he'll make a huge jump. And then I 1:25:56.200 --> 1:25:58.120 think defensively, it's gonna be Antonio Johnson. 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:03.120 When you looked at Bigsby was much more decisive the 1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:05.559 other night. You remember Tony last year and we were critical 1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:07.200 of them the times when he tried to bounce yep off. 1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:09.320 Yeah, I thought he was really good, Pete and I Yeah, 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:11.120 and I'll tell you this, if the turf Monster doesn't 1:26:11.120 --> 1:26:13.960 get him, takes that touchdown, take the kickoff for a touchdown. 1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:17.360 Yeah, yep. Yeah, he's more decisive. 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:19.559 He's looked great in camp, and he looked good on 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:21.559 Saturday Night. So those are the two guys i'd go with. 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:24.679 I would agree with you on both of them. 1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:28.760 Easy enough. Final question at dealing Underscore, you're non tan 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:31.839 Josh heinz Awen and Trayvon Walker combined for thirty plus 1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:35.400 sex last year, Tony, you said twenty five and they 1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:37.479 were over that, what twenty seven and a half? Right 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:39.639 at twenty seven and a half, they led the league 1:26:40.280 --> 1:26:43.519 as a duo. As a duo, would you dare go 1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:47.600 thirty plus? I'm not going to go thirty plus? Why not? 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:49.320 Because I've just that's. 1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:51.519 It because I but you know, it's funny. 1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:53.760 Tony said twenty five last year, and I laughed at 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:55.120 him and I said, if they get twenty. 1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:56.479 Five, they're gonna be in the super Bowl. Well, they 1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:58.280 got twenty five and they weren't close to him. 1:26:58.280 --> 1:26:59.360 They didn't make the playoffs. 1:26:59.720 --> 1:27:04.759 Yeah, yea, So if okay, because Josh Allen's Heinz Allen's 1:27:04.800 --> 1:27:06.960 probably not getting his seventeen and a half. His has 1:27:06.960 --> 1:27:09.559 probably come down a little bit, and Trayvon Walkers might 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:12.719 go up a little bit, not significantly. So I'm with Tony. 1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:14.519 I don't think they get the thirty. I think they're 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:16.439 like between twenty five and thirty. 1:27:17.280 --> 1:27:19.639 Yeah, I tend to agree with you, Pete. 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:22.760 Here's the wild card though, because they had twenty seven 1:27:22.800 --> 1:27:24.240 and a half between the two of them, they only 1:27:24.280 --> 1:27:26.639 had forty as a team, So I mean, he's only 1:27:26.680 --> 1:27:28.920 twelve and a half game from everyone else. That's their 1:27:28.960 --> 1:27:32.040 other sources that they didn't This is where I think 1:27:32.080 --> 1:27:38.360 they could hit even bigger numbers than twenty five. Eric 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:42.120 Armstad's healthy because he's gonna push the pocket and that's 1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:45.799 gonna lead the sacks by the outside guys. And another 1:27:45.800 --> 1:27:48.479 guy we have not talked about, but I've been impressed 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:51.840 with what I've seen so far in camp is is 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:52.559 Mason Smith. 1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:55.400 I love him. He is I love them. 1:27:55.479 --> 1:27:59.600 He is coming out violent and physical and long. 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:01.920 And held up against the double team the other day 1:28:01.960 --> 1:28:02.439 pretty well. 1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:05.360 Yeah, I'm like, so like, oh now, it's a lot. 1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:08.320 I'm not putting a number on what he'll do, because 1:28:08.360 --> 1:28:10.800 that's a lot for a rookie. But I do think 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:12.880 he's going to be disruptive in the middle and can 1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:15.760 add push and the way the rush lurks. If you 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:18.320 can push the middle, makes it a lot easier for 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:20.160 those guys on the outside to get home. 1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:23.120 Tony, he was a giant recruit, was really on the 1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:25.679 verge of stardom and tore up that knee. Came back 1:28:25.760 --> 1:28:28.000 last year, and the early tape when I watched it 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:30.400 wasn't very good. But by the end of the season 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:33.280 he started to look like himself again. I think that 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:36.360 kid has all the ability to be a star inside player. 1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:38.240 I really do. He's just got the size. 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:38.880 He's violent. 1:28:39.240 --> 1:28:43.240 He's violent, Yes, he's strong, physical, which brings me to. 1:28:43.200 --> 1:28:45.960 This part of that love it. Why was ninety five 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:47.799 in the game late in the fourth quarter? 1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:50.840 Is Roy Robertson Harris. 1:28:50.880 --> 1:28:53.400 We talked to Jeff and I were looking at each other. 1:28:54.120 --> 1:28:56.960 I've heard, so what I'm about to say is my speculation. 1:28:57.120 --> 1:29:00.320 I've heard nothing from anybody, but being around this league 1:29:00.320 --> 1:29:05.439 a long time. When your former starting three technique, who 1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:08.360 I believe they re signed redid his deal in the offseason, 1:29:08.520 --> 1:29:14.479 so that tells you, yeah, they believe he's a foundational piece, 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:15.559 at least for this year. 1:29:17.160 --> 1:29:19.439 When he is playing late. 1:29:19.280 --> 1:29:21.400 In the third, maybe into the fourth of I'm not 1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:23.800 mistaken in. 1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:26.639 Okay, eighteen snaps in the game totally. 1:29:26.760 --> 1:29:30.120 So when he's playing into the second half, into the 1:29:30.160 --> 1:29:34.519 fourth quarter in the first preseason game, my little Spidey 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:37.920 senses go off and like something's going on here. That 1:29:38.000 --> 1:29:42.160 means that the front office and the coaching staff or 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:45.880 some combination, either one of them or both are not 1:29:46.040 --> 1:29:49.879 happy with the camp that he's having so far. And 1:29:49.960 --> 1:29:52.400 to me, that's lighting a little fire and saying, hey, 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:56.040 we need to see more because there's no guarantees in 1:29:56.080 --> 1:29:57.360 this on this rock. 1:29:57.520 --> 1:29:59.920 What can you do with him though, because if you 1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:04.880 cut him, you take a giant captit on that. 1:30:05.360 --> 1:30:06.880 I don't know, Pete, but I was. 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:10.600 I was shocked to see him in the game, and 1:30:10.800 --> 1:30:12.599 like I was shocked to see him in the second half, 1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:15.800 and all of a sudden, like in the fourth quarter, 1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:20.200 there's Roy Robinson Harris are starting defensive end and that 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:21.760 will be a three technique this year. 1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:25.679 I'm curious how he practices this week against the Bucks. 1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:28.519 I'm really off that I'm curious about the whole dang thing, 1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:30.200 because that caught me by surprise. 1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:32.000 I've not heard anything. 1:30:32.080 --> 1:30:34.200 There must be other guys that they really like to 1:30:34.479 --> 1:30:37.679 in there like that, Like you mentioned Smith, but ninety 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:39.479 did some good things a little bit too. 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:41.839 What's his name, Pete. 1:30:43.080 --> 1:30:43.840 I'm not saying that. 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:50.560 No, say o too, Maywoe. 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:55.240 Say that again, say come on, let's go, let's get 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:58.360 let's get. 1:30:57.240 --> 1:31:01.720 O to Maywoe. 1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:02.519 But he did. 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:09.160 Ote Maywell. Yeah, I got that one. I want to 1:31:09.160 --> 1:31:10.520 see you guys, Butcher. 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:12.920 In Hey, Tony, what about Marshalls? He did some decent 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:15.960 things too. Was three ninety three? 1:31:16.120 --> 1:31:20.080 Is Tyler Lacy Marshall's ninety six ninety six? 1:31:20.120 --> 1:31:21.400 He did a couple of good things too. 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:26.320 Yeah, late, listen my comment like, I was just shocked 1:31:26.320 --> 1:31:29.240 to see Roy in that late and so, and I 1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:31.280 don't know anything. Maybe it's nothing, Maybe that that was 1:31:31.320 --> 1:31:32.920 the plan all along. Maybe he knew about it. 1:31:33.080 --> 1:31:35.719 I just know history, looking back on history and teams 1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:37.040 that are part of When all of a sudden you 1:31:37.120 --> 1:31:39.720 see a veteran guy that was a starter and you 1:31:39.800 --> 1:31:42.120 expected to be a starter or y for a starting 1:31:42.200 --> 1:31:44.479 job and playing the fourth quarter of the first preseason game. 1:31:44.800 --> 1:31:48.519 You're like, huh, that's interesting. Let's come back in a moment. 1:31:48.600 --> 1:31:51.640 We'll take a look at joint practices next week. And 1:31:51.760 --> 1:31:54.320 we haven't been touched on the big fan topic of 1:31:54.400 --> 1:31:57.000 the offseason. A lot one of them the play calling. 1:31:57.960 --> 1:31:59.640 You want to hit that next, because I got some 1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:01.160 very strong comments about that. 1:32:01.200 --> 1:32:03.360 I do as well. We'll come back in a moment. 1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:12.800 This is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. Yeah, 1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:13.400 you're right. 1:32:13.439 --> 1:32:15.600 You get to pick the situations, the scenarios. 1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:19.640 It's very controlled. There's no live tackling or anything like that. 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:24.120 It's you know, but they're their physical practices, but you 1:32:24.120 --> 1:32:26.040 can get you can get quite a bit out of them. 1:32:26.280 --> 1:32:30.120 Doug Peterson earlier today discussing the joint practices ahead this 1:32:30.160 --> 1:32:33.360 week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's Jaguars Happy Hour 1:32:33.439 --> 1:32:37.000 presented by mister Chubby's Wings from the Hundai Studios at 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:41.040 the Miller Electric Center, JP Shatterwick, Tony Bisselli, and Pete Priscoing. 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:43.640 For eleven years, dream Finders Homes has been proud to 1:32:43.640 --> 1:32:47.800 call themselves the official homebuilder of the Jags. Visit Dreamfinders 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:51.759 Homes Dot com for all the available inventory and go Jags. 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:57.920 A big off season topic outside of this building has 1:32:57.960 --> 1:33:02.919 been Jaguars off offensive play calling and who will actually 1:33:03.000 --> 1:33:06.519 do it. Press Taylor was on the field Saturday night 1:33:06.640 --> 1:33:10.240 calling plays. Doug Peterson said earlier in training camps. I 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:12.400 guess he will call the plays in the preseason. They 1:33:12.400 --> 1:33:14.639 haven't made a determination in the regular season. I think 1:33:14.640 --> 1:33:18.679 it's the most overblown topic in the last decade. Two 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:21.200 years ago. Press Taylor is a genius in the second 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:23.759 half of the season, calling plays in the comebacks in December. 1:33:23.800 --> 1:33:27.679 Nobody knew he was doing it last year. He can't 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:30.600 coach football anymore, apparently, How did that change all of 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:35.400 a sudden and he should be calling the place Tony. 1:33:35.520 --> 1:33:38.479 I mean, that's up to Doug. I mean, that's my opinion. 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:43.120 Here's my opinion. I think Doug is a very good 1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:45.680 coach and a heck of a play caller. I think 1:33:45.720 --> 1:33:47.479 Press Taylor is a very good coach and a heck 1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:49.200 of a play caller, So I don't think he can 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:51.360 go wrong with either one. They decided to decide what 1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:53.880 you know, ultimate's Doug's called what he thinks best for 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:56.080 the organization and gives the best chance to win. But 1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:59.479 as far as I'm concerned, I tend to agree with 1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:02.920 you JP. I mean, it's amazing, like everyone was jumping 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:04.960 up and down for joy when we're coming back and 1:34:04.960 --> 1:34:07.000 scoring points and doing all the things we did the 1:34:07.040 --> 1:34:08.480 second half of that season. 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:09.639 And nobody knew he was doing and no one knew 1:34:09.640 --> 1:34:10.040 he was doing it. 1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:12.000 I still don't understand how that got leaked, or why 1:34:12.080 --> 1:34:13.920 it got leaked, or for any reason that all of 1:34:13.920 --> 1:34:15.960 a sudden there was some big major change going on 1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:20.719 last year right before the Colts game, I think. 1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:22.599 And here's the other thing. 1:34:24.200 --> 1:34:28.600 The way play calling goes in the NFL, for the 1:34:28.640 --> 1:34:31.800 most part, it's mostly decided during the week as a 1:34:31.920 --> 1:34:34.640 staff what you like, what are your top plays in 1:34:34.760 --> 1:34:38.400 this situation? First, second down, third down, goal line, short yardage, 1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:40.880 third and long, so on and so forth. You put 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:45.400 all this together as a staff, then you work with 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:48.760 your quarterback. You take that to your quarterback and say, hey, Trevor. 1:34:48.439 --> 1:34:49.439 What do you like? 1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:52.800 What are you comfortable with? He goes through it. Then 1:34:52.840 --> 1:34:53.439 you rank them. 1:34:53.439 --> 1:34:55.080 You get back to the staff together and say, okay, 1:34:55.080 --> 1:34:56.839 here's our first fifteen plays. 1:34:57.920 --> 1:35:01.840 That's what you're gonna call here's our first top three, 1:35:02.040 --> 1:35:06.479 third and seven plus. Here's our first you know, top 1:35:06.520 --> 1:35:09.920 three or five, you know, four to seven or three 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:12.320 to seven. And here's our top you know, five short 1:35:12.360 --> 1:35:14.400 yard and here's our goal line, here's our red zone. 1:35:14.520 --> 1:35:15.599 It's all laid out. 1:35:16.520 --> 1:35:18.640 And yeah, but there's a rhythm to it. 1:35:18.760 --> 1:35:19.840 I'm not saying there's not a rhythm. 1:35:19.880 --> 1:35:21.479 But Pete, you're calling it off the call sheet that 1:35:21.520 --> 1:35:23.840 you guys have all agreed upon, and the start and 1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:25.880 the start of the game is all scripted. 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:29.320 But there are guys that are great play callers and 1:35:29.320 --> 1:35:30.639 guys who aren't great play callers. 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:32.360 It doesn't matter what the script says. 1:35:32.560 --> 1:35:34.920 Okay, that's fine, Okay, But I'm just saying I want 1:35:34.960 --> 1:35:37.160 to make sure everyone understands how this is put together 1:35:37.200 --> 1:35:41.120 as mechanically during the week, like every team does that, Pete, correct. 1:35:41.160 --> 1:35:43.839 I mean, here, see this thing here, this is a highlighter. 1:35:43.880 --> 1:35:46.120 They should x off the section that says bubble screen, 1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:49.400 bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen, 1:35:49.840 --> 1:35:52.160 third down, bubble screen, four down, bubble screen. 1:35:52.200 --> 1:35:54.000 Okay, you can get in and be silly and do 1:35:54.080 --> 1:35:54.960 these individual things. 1:35:55.280 --> 1:35:56.240 I'm just being serious. 1:35:56.280 --> 1:35:58.080 I think they part of the problem last year is 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:00.400 that they were handcuffed and whoever was called so let. 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:02.920 Me let me get to that, because here's their thing. 1:36:03.080 --> 1:36:06.439 And I said this on Monday morning. I guess was 1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:08.240 that last week or maybe I don't know when I 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:13.000 said it, but anyways, the it's really hard to call 1:36:13.040 --> 1:36:16.000 plays when you can't get third and one. It's really 1:36:16.000 --> 1:36:18.560 hard when you can't run through the between the tackles 1:36:18.720 --> 1:36:21.639 consistently because you can't move anyone an inch. 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:23.400 It's hard when. 1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:25.360 Really your only plays are picking polls and you're trying 1:36:25.400 --> 1:36:27.680 to move and try to create leverage points. 1:36:27.439 --> 1:36:30.559 To get outside. It's hard. It's hard to call plays in. 1:36:30.479 --> 1:36:32.760 The red zone tight red zone, especially where all the 1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:35.040 passing lanes are really tight, when you can't run it. 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:38.800 So like number, hard to. 1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:40.479 Call plays when your quarterbacks sped up. 1:36:40.520 --> 1:36:42.639 It's hard to call plays when your receivers aren't big 1:36:42.640 --> 1:36:44.240 play threats down the field, which is why they went 1:36:44.240 --> 1:36:45.200 out and got two of them. 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:48.120 And by the way, the other way you look at 1:36:48.160 --> 1:36:50.000 it is I'm with what you said, JP. 1:36:50.120 --> 1:36:52.559 I don't think Press Taylor forgot how to call plays. Yeah, 1:36:52.760 --> 1:36:54.880 less than a minute. By the way, and so I 1:36:55.040 --> 1:36:56.600 key understood like he was. 1:36:56.680 --> 1:36:59.720 Everyone loved him, and they didn't have a great year offensively, 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:01.920 And I think it's a mistake to point the finger 1:37:01.920 --> 1:37:02.400 at one guy. 1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:03.360 That's not how it works. 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:05.519 Doug is a part of the process, the whole coaches, 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:07.280 that's part of the process. Trevor Lawrence is part of 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:09.599 the process. And whoever they have calling players, whether it's 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:10.920 Doug or Press, I don't care. 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:12.479 I think both do it. We'll do a great job. 1:37:12.600 --> 1:37:15.040 Great first show, Pete. We'll talk to you again next week. 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:16.120 Got it, Pete. 1:37:15.880 --> 1:37:20.200 Prisco, CBS Sports, Tony Bisselli Hall of Famer, I'm J P. Shadrick. 1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:23.400 Thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver, David chod, Nick Cortes, 1:37:23.439 --> 1:37:25.880 our entire crew, and welcome back. 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:27.800 It is Jaguars Happy Hour.