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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is

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Speaker 2: presented by Jet Home Loans. And now a guy who's

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Speaker 3: Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, the first Monday

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Speaker 3: show of the season at long last, presented by Jet

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Speaker 3: Home Loans. We've got a busy two hours ahead. Here's

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Speaker 3: what's coming up with the program today. On this August twelfth,

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Speaker 3: Prisco and Vaselli are back. Despite our best efforts, they

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Speaker 3: are back. Jaguars over the Chiefs in preseason Week one.

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Speaker 1: Offensive standouts in the game, a new look defense, debuted

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Speaker 1: special teams made an impact all over the field.

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Speaker 3: Will keep it real?

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Speaker 1: And Mannix fan questions, that's all coming up?

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Speaker 4: J P.

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Speaker 3: Shadwick with you, Tony Vasselli Hall of Famer, Literally ten

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Speaker 3: seconds before the show walks into the studio.

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Speaker 1: He's here, He's on time. It's great to see you, Tony.

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Speaker 3: Why did you have to add the ten second before?

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Speaker 3: I just wanted people to know the real you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I was ready, I'm here, got my coffee,

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Speaker 5: got my water.

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Speaker 6: CBS Sports Outside signing more more autographs for more money.

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Speaker 3: Since that's what you do.

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Speaker 5: That's not true, Pete, that's not true. That is inaccurate.

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Speaker 5: What's going on there, my little friend.

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Speaker 1: That's Pete Prisco CBS Sports.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Peter we I was in town last week.

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Speaker 6: I figured i'd bump into Tony and no, he said,

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Speaker 6: Canton signing, signing and doing more signing.

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Speaker 1: Ch ching, ch ching ch ching.

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Speaker 3: All right, First things first, whoever's I need that TV

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Speaker 3: on over there?

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Speaker 1: Or wow?

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Speaker 3: You come in fire and shots. You just show up

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Speaker 3: ten seconds before the show. Well you can showed up

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Speaker 3: thirty minutes ago. Maybe we can add something for you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I got Pete to my left, So if I

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Speaker 5: want to see Pete's beautiful face, I gotta look to

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Speaker 5: the left, and then it looks terrible.

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Speaker 4: How that is beautiful?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's South Florida tan baby.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh Tony Uh.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I gotta give you props because I'm skinny,

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Speaker 6: but you're you're almost frail.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm I'm stronger than i've been in a

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Speaker 3: long time. Pete.

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Speaker 5: I've been lifting weights. I've changed, I've changed the game.

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Speaker 5: It's not just about I'm not about I'm not about

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Speaker 5: weight loss. I'm about body composition.

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Speaker 3: Hey, just wait, Pete until the mister Chubby's Wings hour

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Speaker 3: in the second hour. They're here tonight too. They delivered.

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Speaker 3: I'm good Tony.

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Speaker 6: Tony looks like he could couldn't play tight end. Now

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Speaker 6: you gotta be, you gotta be.

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Speaker 4: What are you?

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Speaker 5: Two twenty no, two forty between. I linger around between

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Speaker 5: two forty and two five on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: That's nice.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sixty pounds of that's your head.

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Speaker 5: I mean, oh yeah, because you're you know, you're very

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Speaker 5: you're very well proportioned. Let's not get into you. Wow,

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Speaker 5: my goodness. I don't know if he's Seth Payne's uh

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Speaker 5: post on X.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that a little bit later. Yes, somebody

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Speaker 3: a little short. I'm not going to say who.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, as I age, I get shorter.

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Speaker 3: I think that's how it works.

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Speaker 4: Good, I'm shrinking.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, Pete. I still love you well.

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Speaker 6: I love you and your big head too, So don't

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Speaker 6: worry about it. JP, that's a whole other story. Hey, Tony,

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Speaker 6: we're starting off the season. And the first thing I

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Speaker 6: said to JP when I saw him in the media room.

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Speaker 6: How much does your dad hate me?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: So the whole off season. I don't think it's it's

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Speaker 1: built up yet. We haven't even to show yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that carries over, don't you think, Tony, it carries over.

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Speaker 3: Well, Pete. Once someone doesn't like you usually does not change.

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Speaker 1: You're always starting with a deficit.

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Speaker 3: It does not just before we get into football, because

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Speaker 3: we haven't done this for a while.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And I can't tell by the picture. Are you still

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Speaker 5: being healthy, Pete? Are you healthy Pete?

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Speaker 3: Or fat? And hell Pete?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm way down, so you're not noticed.

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Speaker 3: His camera shot like his shoulders up. He didn't want

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Speaker 4: I'm down.

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Speaker 5: You're no longer as wide as tall.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: That's good for you. By the way, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Pete did look pretty good the other day. I'm being serious.

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Speaker 5: Pete and I talked all off season, mostly via text,

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Speaker 5: and I worry about Pete's health. He's a friend. I

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Speaker 5: want to make sure he's healthy. I'm starting I'm.

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Speaker 4: Starting about even last season.

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Speaker 3: No, he did good.

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Speaker 5: Now, Pete, we might want to focus our attention on

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Speaker 5: JP because I'm not sure if you've noticed somebody not

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Speaker 5: taking seriously, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: You're a shape. I've been worse.

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Speaker 1: You definitely have a shape, been a whole lot worse.

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Speaker 4: Tony.

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Speaker 6: So the two older guys, Grandpa me and then Grandpa

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Speaker 6: number two, you better than than younger here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's because we started seeing the end

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Speaker 3: and we said, I'm still living a different lifestyle than.

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Speaker 4: I.

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Speaker 6: Might be the older one here, but if you count

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Speaker 6: your years in football years, you're much older than me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think you start seeing the end, You're like, I

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Speaker 3: might want to do something about this before it gets

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 4: More out of I come to the town. I noticed

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Speaker 4: all over town guys have lost a ton of weight. Hacker. Yes, Matt,

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Speaker 4: Matt Hayes. I mean it's unreal, it's good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, you gotta take care of yourself, like yeah,

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Speaker 5: like the first thing.

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Speaker 4: That do you eat anymore?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah, he stars himself a lot of heavy protein,

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Speaker 3: lifting weights, heavy protein.

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Speaker 4: You don't look like you're lifting weights. That's why I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so Okay, I'm lying because I because

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Speaker 3: i'm definition.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean you want me to take the

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Speaker 5: shirt off? No, no, you can the six pack is there?

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's weird.

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Speaker 6: Is I haven't had any sort of abs in my

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Speaker 6: entire nearby.

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Speaker 3: It's the first time in fifty two I got apps.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, where these come?

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Speaker 4: I actually have like remnants of them.

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 4: It's happened, Pete.

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Speaker 3: I am fifty two years old.

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Speaker 5: Never in my life have I seen even like the

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Speaker 5: starting like definition of an app either. And I'm like

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Speaker 5: my wife, She's like, my goodness, like you like, you

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Speaker 5: got a four pack for sure? Of the six packs

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Speaker 5: coming in. I'm like, that's right, baby.

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Speaker 6: But you get to certain points, right, you get you

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Speaker 6: gotta stop though, You gotta you get to a point

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Speaker 6: and you become obsessive and you gotta stop.

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Speaker 1: Pete, what are you doing on a daily basis? What's

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Speaker 1: your regular routine?

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Speaker 7: I work it out every day a lot. But I

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Speaker 7: don't eat much either, so I'm way down a lot

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Speaker 7: of protein.

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Speaker 4: Like Tony said. Yeah, And here's the other thing, is

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Speaker 4: you know, I went and saw my doctor.

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Speaker 6: When I see the doctor, he told me I actually

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Speaker 6: have to start lifting weights more because you get older

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Speaker 6: and you're owns men frail.

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Speaker 3: That's right, they do. Yeah. Yeah, I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 6: Pee, I'm gonna make it through fat ball season. I

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Speaker 6: did it last year. I'll do it again. I'm not

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Speaker 6: gonna get I just I just you gotta do it

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Speaker 6: or else, you know. Again, like Tony said.

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Speaker 1: The end clocks sticking. The clocks can take it. It's

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Speaker 1: sticking faster, Pete. It goes faster every year.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like the season just that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm like, wait a second, Like I'm like, like,

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Speaker 5: the season's here, which means in my world, this is

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Speaker 5: that's always been. Once the season's here, it's over. Because

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Speaker 5: you like you blink, you wake up and you're it's

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Speaker 5: like Christmas playoffs done. It's like, holy cow.

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Speaker 6: You know, life goes fast, as like Tony said, as

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Speaker 6: you get a little older, it goes faster. But I

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Speaker 6: always said, if life went as fast as a football

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Speaker 6: season dead we did, we'd all be dead and about

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Speaker 6: five years.

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Speaker 5: It goes so fast. But that's because it's so much fun.

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Speaker 5: And this is, I mean the exciting thing. We're getting

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Speaker 5: ready to kick off here and we have first preseason

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Speaker 5: game with the Jags against the Chiefs. This is the

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Speaker 5: most fun time of the year, you know, getting into September,

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Speaker 5: fall change of the weather football and now it's like

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Speaker 5: all day Sunday, Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday. I mean

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Speaker 5: it's like then you get late in the season, you

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Speaker 5: get Saturday games, and it's just it's all consuming. And

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Speaker 5: I saw the best thing I've seen. It was either

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Speaker 5: on Instagram or x I can't remember which. One was

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Speaker 5: a little parody and basically it was as a husband

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Speaker 5: sending his wife a two week notice, basically saying, this

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Speaker 5: is your two week notice that starting on this September X,

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Speaker 5: every Sunday from ten am to eleven eleven pm, I

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Speaker 5: will be unavailable for any housework from six pm to

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Speaker 5: eleven pm on Mondays.

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Speaker 3: It was great, it was such.

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Speaker 6: A Good's the way the league is two it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be every.

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Speaker 1: Day they don't have a game, it's Tuesday because they

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Speaker 1: have Christmas Wednesday games this year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in college football on Saturday year. I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: it's NonStop.

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Speaker 4: It's unreal.

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Speaker 5: It is it is our for it from a sports

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Speaker 5: culture standpoint, it is our religion. It is what is

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Speaker 5: this time of year. It owns the TV, the radio,

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Speaker 5: the internet. I mean, if you're a sports fan, it's

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Speaker 5: all football, all the time. And Pete, I know you

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Speaker 5: and I and I know JP's the same way, and

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Speaker 5: we love it because we love the game of football.

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Speaker 5: It's a great game. It's great to cover, it's great,

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Speaker 5: it's great to play. And I am looking forward to

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four and I think it's it has the potential.

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Speaker 5: And we'll talk about this tonight and all through the

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Speaker 5: preseason we lead up to opening Day down in South Florida.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna see you down in South Florida, Pete?

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Speaker 3: Opening Day?

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Speaker 4: Ill come come. I'm not gonna be at the game,

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Speaker 4: but I'll come by the hotel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Let's play it on dinner Saturday night. Wow, we'll go

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Speaker 5: to dinner.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: How about that? Maybe we'll do the show dinner or

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Speaker 3: you're not.

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Speaker 1: There, I mean, enjoy tell me how it.

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Speaker 3: Because if you can, if you can, if you have

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Speaker 6: But if you don't have a great if you don't

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the number one down the field guy.

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Speaker 3: So New England would New England would disagree with you

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not I'm not doing it. My point, Pete

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Speaker 3: amazing how he twists no matter what I say? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a great talent that Pete has. It's a great talent.

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Speaker 3: He can take anything I say and make it whatever

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Speaker 4: I love it. I get what you say.

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Speaker 6: But there are outliers on the whole and Tony and

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Speaker 5: I would say the big play where wide receivers like

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Speaker 3: Played like you. Maybe, but remember back when I especially

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Speaker 4: No, I know that team. It was like he was

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Speaker 3: I do know his name.

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Speaker 4: I missed first of all.

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Speaker 3: To be honestly, I got flustered.

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Speaker 4: I get all over him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you did try it again, McCardell. Okay, let's come back.

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Speaker 6: There's some theory that the quarterback deal getting done when

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Speaker 7: Something happened like I don't think says before the vote, Well,

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Speaker 3: There's no I think both.

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Speaker 5: I think both were gonna happen independently, independently of each other.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that. Let's put it this way.

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Speaker 4: It belongs in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's what you're seeing out there in practice.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see that tonight.

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Speaker 8: Our guys played played fast, they played hard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good stuff. Should I do my first lock

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Speaker 1: Oh early lock.

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Speaker 4: Pete, I thought you locked the Chiefs game last week.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a preseason lock. We're gonna go undefeed in

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Speaker 4: Who cares?

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Speaker 5: Well, I know no one cares. But and I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: He's an original lock. No, it's not. It's very It's

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Speaker 5: And it made me think when Doug said that he

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, so in the preseason you have

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Speaker 3: That's why.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense because most teams like have Nathan

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Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, Pete, So that's a dumble,

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Speaker 5: it's a dumb lock. But I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 5: It's dumb, glad you admit, But I thought.

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Speaker 6: Mac Jones has to be number two?

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Speaker 4: Quarter, keep all three of them.

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Speaker 5: the new Pratt squad rules, you put them on there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's clear, like there's no I.

447
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Speaker 1: Mean, what would they make that move for him to

448
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Speaker 1: be like a question mark?

449
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Speaker 5: Well, and I give I give Mac Jones a ton

450
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Speaker 5: of credit because I was not crazy about the trade

451
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Speaker 5: at the moment, because you know, everyone's like, oh, you're

452
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Speaker 5: worried about the competition with Trevor. No, I'm not worried

453
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Speaker 5: with the competition with Trevor. What I was concerned about

454
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Speaker 5: because I don't know Mac Jones. I know he's a

455
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Speaker 5: Jacksonville kid. I've never met him. I don't know his personality.

456
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Speaker 5: I didn't know how he'd handle it. But Pete will

457
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 5: attest to this. There's certain guys in this league that

458
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 5: get drafted high, they feel like they're a starter, they

459
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Speaker 5: get traded, and they have mentality like I'm going to

460
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Speaker 5: get that job.

461
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Speaker 3: It's my job.

462
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Speaker 5: And the last thing I thought this place needed is

463
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Speaker 5: a guy coming in as the backup not knowing his role,

464
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Speaker 5: and that backup's role is to support our franchise quarterback

465
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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence and just not knowing the dynamics of the

466
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Speaker 5: personality Mac Jones. I've been so impressed with Mac Jones

467
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Speaker 5: about how he's approached it, his energy, just you know,

468
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Speaker 5: I thought he was always a good quarterback. I mean,

469
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Speaker 5: he proved that in New England. I thought he got

470
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Speaker 5: a raw deal in New England when Bill Belichick decided

471
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Speaker 5: to take a defensive coordinator and make him the offensive

472
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Speaker 5: line coach and the special teams guy to make him

473
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Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator. That's a tough situation to operate in

474
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Speaker 5: if you're Mac Jones. But I was always impressed with him,

475
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Speaker 5: and I'm even more oppressed now just how he's handled

476
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Speaker 5: the situation energy at practice, understands his role, you know.

477
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Speaker 4: And well you know too, Tony. Some guys are just

478
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Speaker 4: meant to be backup quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's okay.

480
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Speaker 5: It is okay. I think that's Mac Jones. I actually

481
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Speaker 5: think Mac Jones is a starter in this league.

482
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Speaker 6: For where though. I mean he's in Jacksonville. He's not

483
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Speaker 6: starting there.

484
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Speaker 3: Well, but you know how it goes. The guys might

485
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Speaker 3: get hurt later in the year and then the deal

486
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Speaker 3: and and he I'll give you be a perfect example, Pete.

487
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Speaker 4: He was appailable for anybody for anything but a fourth

488
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Speaker 4: round pick.

489
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Speaker 5: Right hold on Pete last year of his deal as well. So, Pete,

490
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Speaker 5: this is how I think about it. I'm not saying

491
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Speaker 5: this is going to happen. Mac Jones comes in, has

492
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Speaker 5: a good preseason, which he's kicked it off, having a

493
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 5: good preseason, and is the backup all year. Let's hope

494
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Speaker 5: that he doesn't have to play one snap outside of

495
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Speaker 5: coming up to maybe we're up by fifty and he

496
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Speaker 5: comes up and whatever. But hopefully he doesn't have to

497
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 5: play meaningful snaps because that means Trevor's healthy the whole year.

498
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Speaker 5: And now he's a free agent, and you know this league, Pete,

499
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Speaker 5: you're telling me there's not going to be a couple

500
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Speaker 5: of teams that are looking for a quarterback. And on

501
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Speaker 5: that scouting staff, there's somebody who loved mac Jones come

502
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Speaker 5: out of college and they say, this guy's a start,

503
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Speaker 5: and they'll put on his tape from his first year

504
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Speaker 5: with Belichick and a good coordinator, seeing that they took

505
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Speaker 5: him to the playoffs, and they say, you know what,

506
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 5: we can go get this guy and pay fifteen million

507
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: bucks or twelve million bucks, and he can be our

508
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Speaker 5: starter and maybe he blossoms into a like no.

509
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Speaker 3: Different than Baker Mayfield. I mean, look at Baker Mayfield.

510
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield signed a prove it deal with the Buccaneers

511
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Speaker 3: and ended up playing at a level, taking that team

512
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Speaker 3: to the playoffs where he got a franchise deal. Very

513
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Speaker 3: I could see that happening with Mac Jones. And if

514
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Speaker 3: that happens, Pete, guess what the Jags get. They get

515
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Speaker 3: a competitory pick because he gets signed by another team.

516
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Speaker 4: I know, I get I see it in theory.

517
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Speaker 6: First off, I don't think does Mac Jones have that

518
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: chip on his shoulder like a Baker do?

519
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Speaker 4: I think he does well.

520
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Speaker 6: I think he looks happy to be the backup in Jacksonville.

521
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Speaker 6: He looks like a happy kid. You're right, he's bought

522
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Speaker 6: into it and he looks just looks intent and happy.

523
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Speaker 5: I think I think he's happy because he is in

524
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Speaker 5: a situation that stable. He can grow as a player,

525
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 5: he can play a role. I think he's a high

526
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Speaker 5: energy guy by nature, and I think he's coming up

527
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 5: with a great ad to because I think he knows

528
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Speaker 5: if he does a good job, this is his best

529
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Speaker 5: path of getting an opportunity to be a starter again.

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Speaker 4: Was playing ever a starter again? He wasn't, was he?

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Speaker 3: No?

532
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Speaker 4: No, he was always a backup. That's sometimes you're just

533
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Speaker 4: a backup. And he made a long career out of

534
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Speaker 4: being a backup. That's okay.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. My point

536
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: is I still think Matt Jones can be a starter

537
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: in this league.

538
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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna play Devil's advocate on it.

539
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Speaker 6: He was available for anybody who wanted to give up,

540
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Speaker 6: say a third round pick, to make him the starter.

541
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Speaker 4: Nobody did right.

542
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Speaker 1: From that though, and move, move up and on. You

543
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: never know how he can play.

544
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Speaker 3: He can play himself out of that stuff.

545
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think so. Look, he wondery good when

546
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Speaker 6: he played. After the first year, he was okay.

547
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Speaker 4: But would you agree that the a bad situation bad situation.

548
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to defend that situation one bit, not

549
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Speaker 6: at all. But he was awful in some games, Tony

550
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Speaker 6: with the capitol A.

551
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Speaker 4: I mean he was bad.

552
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Speaker 6: And sometimes I think you get all the pressure off

553
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Speaker 6: of you and you become a backup quarterback and so

554
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 6: you can make you can stay in the league a

555
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 6: long time and become a backup as a backup quarterback.

556
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Speaker 1: It's okay, Jaguars happy, Prisco, Tony WASCELLI JP Shadwick quickly.

557
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Speaker 1: How did Trevor Lawrence look to you the other night?

558
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Speaker 4: Overall?

559
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Speaker 3: Outstanding? Two drives?

560
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Speaker 5: I mean, small sample size. I thought he was outstanding.

561
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Speaker 5: He did exactly what you want me to do.

562
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Speaker 6: You think of the sack on fourth down because Ingram

563
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 6: came open LA pivot route late, but by that time

564
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Speaker 6: there was pressure kind of pushing him to the left

565
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Speaker 6: and he kind of dropped his head down a little bit.

566
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Speaker 6: If he stays there and throws it, that's a completion

567
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Speaker 6: for a first down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was.

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Speaker 4: My only knock on him, and I'm being nippicky.

570
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think if I mean, if

571
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Speaker 3: I wanted to be nitpicky on that play, maybe you

572
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: can hang in there half a tick longer and get

573
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Speaker 3: it to Ingram for the first down.

574
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Speaker 5: Maybe the other thing he could do is he scrammed

575
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Speaker 5: those right. I thought, you know, maybe it was Kirk

576
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 5: or someone was coming open late on the crosser, real

577
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 5: real late, and maybe he could just throw it up

578
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Speaker 5: because it's fourth down. You throw it down deep in

579
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Speaker 5: the field and can't. Yeah, I mean, so that's the

580
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 5: only nitpicky. But in that situation, really what I wanted

581
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: him to do, Pete, if I'm being completely honest, fall

582
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Speaker 5: down and don't get hit, because I don't care if

583
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 5: we pick up fourth down or not. I don't want

584
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Speaker 5: my franchise quarterback getting hit in the preseason.

585
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: Well, then why the right side of the line break

586
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: down on that play?

587
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Speaker 3: It was?

588
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Speaker 6: I think that was in the interior or the offensive line.

589
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Speaker 6: If it came across it. I think it came across

590
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Speaker 6: to Actually I think it might have come across the center.

591
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Speaker 5: I thought it was the right guard. But I'll be

592
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 5: honest with you, I did not go back and watch

593
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Speaker 5: the tape in I.

594
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Speaker 4: Said, I gotta remember what it was. But here's the

595
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 4: other thing.

596
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Speaker 6: The throw we made to Gabe Davis in the middle

597
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Speaker 6: of the field was what was missing.

598
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Year ago in a lot of situations.

599
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: That one right there, And by the way, if you

600
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: go back and look at that.

601
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 4: Opens to his left that comes back to the middle.

602
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: I loved it.

603
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Speaker 5: And watch him hanging in there because he gets pressured

604
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: in his face and gets hit as he's throwing it.

605
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: That's the throw.

606
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: When last year when we'd sit here and we'd say

607
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 6: he wasn't pulling the trigger on those throws, he wasn't.

608
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: He was bailing. That's the throw right there.

609
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I wonder do they have the fourth and five?

610
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 5: We're watching the same play over and over again, which

611
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: is excited about the Yeah, the fourth and five where

612
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 5: doesn't have it?

613
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Speaker 3: Don't have it?

614
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember, I think it came maybe it's either

615
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 6: Sheriff or or Morse.

616
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: I think it was let him, let him through.

617
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

618
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I thought Trevor was fine what

619
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Speaker 5: you wanted out that first preseason game. I thought the

620
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: whole offense was fine. You know, they got the short

621
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: field with I mean, the MVP of the of the

622
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Speaker 5: whole game was Parker Washington.

623
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Speaker 6: He looks it's like a different he looks like a

624
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 6: different guy even running his routes.

625
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Speaker 5: Well, he's a different guy. In Camp Pete, He's had

626
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: a great camp.

627
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Speaker 1: Trevor talked about that going into the game, actually, about

628
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: how Parker's really improved, and it showed you.

629
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Speaker 5: I mean, my goodness, I'm like, is this the same

630
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: guy we had?

631
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: Last year. I mean he looks great.

632
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Speaker 4: It looks he looks like a he looks like a pro.

633
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.

634
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Speaker 5: And I give him credit because I mean, Pete, We've

635
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 5: talked about this for years. The biggest the biggest step

636
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: you want to see from your You want to see

637
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 5: that big jump from your rookie the second year because

638
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 5: a lot of guys struggle as rookies, and you don't

639
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: want to make a judgment just based on their rookie year.

640
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 5: The judgment is, Okay, how do they progress from that

641
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 5: rookie year to that second year? Now that they're a pro,

642
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 5: they have a year in the system, they understand the system,

643
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 5: they're in the off season program, they get stronger, they

644
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 5: do all the things, they mature and by all signs

645
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: and all indications, Parker Washington did his did his job

646
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: this offseason and prepping himself being ready. He's had a

647
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: great camp. He was we you know, the book coming

648
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 5: on him out of college was is He's dynamic like

649
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: a running back after he catches it. He's not like

650
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 5: a super fast, straight line guy. That's how he's known for.

651
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: He's a change the direction.

652
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Powerful runner.

653
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 5: He saw that first hand on that dang kickoff returned

654
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 5: to start the game, and my holy cow, this guy's

655
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 5: he looks like a running back with the ball.

656
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Speaker 6: He's the only he's the only one who's done anything

657
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Speaker 6: with that kickoff crap.

658
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that, I quote kickoff crap a little

659
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Speaker 1: bit later.

660
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: I want to pay off the teas we talked about.

661
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: Let's let's talk about the off season in the next segment. Okay,

662
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 5: at some point we talked about it.

663
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah we should because there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot there.

665
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. And we haven't been on since the offseason.

666
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Speaker 3: We have not. We've got a little defensive talk to go. Also, yeah,

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Speaker 3: should we go off season?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: Defense or defense and offense?

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Speaker 1: Tell you what, if you shut up more than ten

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Speaker 1: seconds before the show, maybe you could produce some segments.

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Speaker 5: It wouldn't be fun if I did that. It's more

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Speaker 5: fun doing this.

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

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Speaker 4: I think, so got like jumping around to Tony's right. Dude.

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Speaker 4: JP likes to structure Tony.

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Speaker 6: He likes try your guy gotta bank and that segment

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Speaker 6: me and you go off the rails and he can't

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Speaker 6: handle it.

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Speaker 3: JP's a buzzkill. He ruins it.

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Speaker 1: We're back in a moment with whatever the heck these

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Speaker 9: Is parryd Parry Talented, you know, trying to forget you know,

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Speaker 9: who are who are Rushman? Miss You know we don't

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Speaker 9: have everybody parents, not even back here, so you got.

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Speaker 4: Him in the mix.

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Speaker 1: You see all out here having a field day.

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Speaker 9: You got rowing Ivan Ham can push that pocket flot

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Speaker 9: So we just got gout that played all way the

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Speaker 9: film and uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun year. US Passible Josh Hainz

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Speaker 3: Allen during the game broadcast Saturday night, and welcome back

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Speaker 3: is Shaguars Happy our first Monday show of the season,

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Speaker 3: presented by Jet Holme Loans. We're at the Hyundai Studios,

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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center. Well, two thirds of the show

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Speaker 3: is JP Shaddick, Tony Boselli here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco

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Speaker 3: down in South Florida.

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Speaker 5: You know what we need to do one Monday, Pete.

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Speaker 5: We got to organize it where you come up and

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Speaker 5: do the show from here on a Monday. And I

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Speaker 5: know that's hard for you because your your schedule's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's impossible even in.

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Speaker 3: The preseason before the season starts. So then we could

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Speaker 3: go out and get a big steak dinner afterwards. Media

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Speaker 3: and JP.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. That would be grea.

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Speaker 6: We could have done it on a fa on the

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Speaker 6: day I came into town, but you weren't there.

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Speaker 4: He was signing autograph somewhere for more money.

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Speaker 5: I was not signing autographs. I was in Canton at

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame weekend.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I saw you at the ceremony, sitting

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Speaker 6: slefed overall, it was.

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Speaker 4: Like ready to get out of there.

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Speaker 3: That was a long day because of the weather delay.

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Speaker 3: Holy cow, that's right. You heard from josh An's Allen.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the big contract in the off season, and

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Speaker 3: this kind of leans into the defensive performance. The other

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Speaker 3: night saw some new faces for the first time. They

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Speaker 3: did a lot of business on that side of the

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Speaker 3: ball this offseason. Josh was obviously the biggest piece of that.

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Speaker 3: They extended Foyer Lucan as well linebacker. They in free

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Speaker 3: agency picked up Darnault Savage and Ronald Darby, a couple

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Speaker 3: of veteran players in the league, and then in the

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Speaker 3: draft a couple of corners come in, Jarion Jones, DeAndre Prince.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they were busy this offseason on the defensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And new and new scheme as well.

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Speaker 3: Up hasn't practiced, but they're looking leaning towards the Atlanta

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Speaker 3: game week getting him ready to go.

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Speaker 5: And I think I mean Mason Smith, the second rounder

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Speaker 5: from MELSU, did you mention him?

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Speaker 3: But not yes to big signing.

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Speaker 5: I mean the big news is locking up Josh Allen,

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Speaker 5: heins Allen, excuse me, for a long term deal, you know,

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Speaker 5: solidifying that and I think having him number one, bringing

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Speaker 5: Ryan Nielson in going to a four to three, I

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Speaker 5: thought our personnel fit for three better than three four,

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Speaker 5: just because heins Allen and Walker, the two of them

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Speaker 5: are defensive ends in my book, They're not outside linebackers

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Speaker 5: that you want to drop. I mean, come on, I mean,

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Speaker 5: those guys are handing the ground, get after the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: big physical guys. They both put on weight. They both

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Speaker 5: look great coming into the camp, and so I think

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Speaker 5: that's a super super positive Armstead. We'll see hopefully healthy

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Speaker 5: coming off surgery in the offseason. And then you talked

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Speaker 5: about the back half locked up Tyson Campbell, who I

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Speaker 5: think is gonna excel in this scheme.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's a long guy who can run. They're

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Speaker 5: gonna play a lot more aggressive coverage, a lot of

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Speaker 5: man in Ryan Neilson's defense. So I like that quite

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Speaker 5: a bit. They added a bunch of young guys. It'll

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Speaker 5: be interesting to see where does this who's in the

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Speaker 5: secondary besides Tyson? I mean, if we're guessing, I mean,

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Speaker 5: obviously Cisco has had a great camp so far. I

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Speaker 5: think he's the next Darby.

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Speaker 4: Darby will be one corner too.

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Speaker 5: I think Darby. I think you're right, Pete, I don't

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Speaker 5: doubt that. My guess is Savage is mere Nickel. Once

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Speaker 5: he gets healthy, he's head. He played a lot of

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Speaker 5: Nickel in green Bell.

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Speaker 6: But I know, but when you play when you play

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Speaker 6: him at Nickel, I think I think you can get

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Speaker 6: him with shifty, smaller court receivers.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a problem there.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 5: I mean he played a lot of out at green Bay,

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Speaker 5: played more. I thought he played more nickel than safety

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Speaker 5: at green Bay.

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Speaker 4: And and then Johnson will be the other safe.

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Speaker 5: Antonio Johns will be the other safety. So and then

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Speaker 5: you got all the young guys you talked about. The

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Speaker 5: other interesting thing on defense, Ryan Nielson's come in flipped

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Speaker 5: a lucon and Lloyd Devin. Lloyd Devn's gonna be the

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Speaker 5: Mike linebacker. Foyer will still have the green dot, he'll

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Speaker 5: still call the defense, but he's gonna be in the whale.

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Speaker 4: Thus, Lewacon runs better. That's what that is. Coverage.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he runs better Pete.

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Speaker 5: I think he's better in coverage because he's so precise

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Speaker 5: in everything he does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Maybe, but he also looks like he runs a little

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Speaker 6: bit better. I think going straight forward, I think Lloyd's good.

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Speaker 6: I think turning and running is a problem for him sometimes. Okay,

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Speaker 6: what'd you think of the run play when he jumped

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Speaker 6: through the run fit the other day on the big

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Speaker 6: run that was on him.

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Speaker 3: Well, they started up front, they got washed yeah, like

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Speaker 3: three they've got washed three gaps and so now and

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Speaker 3: then the.

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Speaker 4: Walker almost made the play coming down from the end.

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Speaker 3: They got washed quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: And then where Devin when he got you got uh,

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Speaker 5: he got covered up by the line guy who had

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Speaker 5: a release from the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: So I love what they've done on defense.

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Speaker 7: I think they're bigger, They're they're tougher, they're more physical,

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Speaker 7: I think, and I think that's Matt it has that matters.

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Speaker 6: And you mentioned it, Tony. Look, I talked to Heinz Walker.

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Speaker 6: I had him in an interview.

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Speaker 5: And who's heines Walker?

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Speaker 6: Allan, I'm sorry, Well, see I combined the two of

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Speaker 6: them because for forty sacks this year. No, you were right,

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Speaker 6: Tony was right. We got to give him credit for

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Speaker 6: that too. I don't want to give him credit for it, but.

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Speaker 4: He was right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean I talked to him and and

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Speaker 6: he's big, he says, he's he's so much bigger. He

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Speaker 6: feels so much more comfortable going forward, Like we talked

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Speaker 6: about that all last year, don't you his best football's

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Speaker 6: played going forward? Why the hell did I have him

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Speaker 6: dropping into coverage all the time? And and same with

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Speaker 6: not all the time, but the same with Walker. But

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Speaker 6: I did ask him, JP, you were right. I asked

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Speaker 6: him about the motivation for not being a game wrecker,

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Speaker 6: and it was on his it had it was on

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Speaker 6: his phone. He said he admitted to it, and he

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Speaker 6: had it on there for a while. So, like I

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Speaker 6: told him, I said, I'm his life coach.

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Speaker 7: I got him straight and and the way I look

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Speaker 7: at it, I didn't tell him this, but maybe he

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Speaker 7: should send me a little bit of a cut for

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Speaker 7: that check.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe shocking shocking. Pete thinks he should get

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Speaker 3: paid for doing nothing, for criticizing being a loud mouth.

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Speaker 3: He wants to get paid.

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Speaker 6: But the funny thing about that is is I got

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Speaker 6: blamed for the lack of the game wrecker talk.

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Speaker 4: I would not. I was not alone on that one,

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Speaker 4: but Seldy was right there with me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. I think we were all pretty much

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Speaker 1: in agreement.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and listen at that pobably. I mean they

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Speaker 3: had to go prove it.

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I would tell Josh this. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Josh is a friend of mine. I mean we have

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Speaker 5: a great relationship. I love him, loved him last year

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Speaker 5: before he had seventeen a half sacks. I've always thought he's

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Speaker 5: a has the ability to be the dude, that guy,

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Speaker 5: but me believing it, it's like Trevor. I think Trevor's

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Speaker 5: one of the best, can be one of the best quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Me thinking that doesn't really matter. At the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, you got to go do it on the field.

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Speaker 5: Trevor needs to do that. I believe he will. I

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Speaker 5: thought Josh heinz Allen had that ability, he had not

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Speaker 5: done it yet.

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Speaker 4: And he did it game wrecker.

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Speaker 3: Now when you have seventeen and half sacks Pete, yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but remember the three he had and for I

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Speaker 4: told him this too.

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Speaker 6: The three had in week one don't count, no.

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Speaker 5: No, but two of them maybe not there, but he had.

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Speaker 5: He had a bunch of rushes. But here's the other thing, Pete,

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Speaker 5: he also had one of the highest UH pressure percentages.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so I think he's gonna be I think

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Speaker 6: he's gonna be better in this defense even than he

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Speaker 6: was a hero.

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 5: My my assessment of him is not just the seventeen

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Speaker 5: and a half sacks. Go look at his win rate.

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Speaker 5: In his pressure rate. It was one of the best

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Speaker 5: in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's not I think it's going to be even better.

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Speaker 4: So yes, to answer the question, I think he is

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Speaker 4: a game wrecker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: Now the question becomes is does the other guy become

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Speaker 7: a game wrecker on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Well, he closed the season pretty good, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, but he's not.

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Speaker 6: I mean again, we the same criticism we had in

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Speaker 6: the beginning of last year. We were having at the

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Speaker 6: end of last year rushing smack dab into the chest

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Speaker 6: to this the offensive tackle and so. But from talking

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Speaker 6: to people when I was up there, and you guys

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00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 6: have watched more practice than me, he's improved in his

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Speaker 6: hands and his ability to to bend a little bit

888
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 6: more and and be better with his past rush.

889
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: And I don't. I haven't. I only was there one

890
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: day and it looked that way. But I'm just the

891
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: people I talked to, they said, that's been accurate.

892
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 5: Well, and I think you have to look at Trayvond.

893
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: What kind of rusher is he going to be. He's

894
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: a power player, and so if you're looking for the

895
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: really slick like Okay, Miles Garrett, this is I mean,

896
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: I think he's the best pass rusher.

897
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: I think he's the best defensive end in football in

898
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 5: my opinion right now. And so if I watch Miles Garrett,

899
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett can power you. He has great hips, he

900
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 5: can turn the corner, he can dip, he can use

901
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 5: his hands like he is, He's the best right now.

902
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 5: If I look at Trayvon Walker, who has a build

903
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not identical, but it's like a presence

904
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: with length and size and strength and speed. I don't

905
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: know if he ever had I don't know if he

906
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 5: has the mobility and the movements of the hands and hips.

907
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: Well it's not just the twitch, it's just I mean

908
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: it's just the hips too. Where he's going to be

909
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 5: that style of rusher what I think he is. I

910
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: think he is developing into that power rusher who gets

911
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 5: you leaning and they can work the edges because you're

912
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 5: so afraid of his power.

913
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm trying to figure out who who is like?

914
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 4: Who is he? Like?

915
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 6: I mean, like it's hard to because you know, those

916
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 6: those twitchy, smaller explosive guys you could kind of compare

917
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 6: guys to, But where where are the big power rushers

918
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 6: Tony If you think back in history, where are the

919
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 6: big power How big was Strahan when he played?

920
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: Was he a big power rusher?

921
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 10: He was?

922
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 5: I mean he played on the left side, Pete, So

923
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 5: I mean the only time I ever blocked him was

924
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 5: in the Pro Bowl.

925
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: So I I mean you have to ask Sercey that.

926
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 6: I mean, what about when you guys, but when you

927
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 6: played against big power rushers that would be compared.

928
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: I'll give you.

929
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 5: I'll give you an interesting comparable that a lot of

930
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 5: people don't remember, you do Pete is Sean Jones. Yes,

931
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 5: Sean Jones was a when I played taller. It was taller,

932
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: not much, not much taller when I played him in

933
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety five. The first game I played, when we

934
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 5: played him on Sunday night in Green Bay, he came

935
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 5: in I think with one hundred and seven hundred and

936
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: eight sacks.

937
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

938
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

939
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 5: And I remember playing them and it wasn't that you're

940
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: I was never worried about his him beating me athletically.

941
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Like speed or but he was.

942
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: But he was six seven.

943
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tray Bond six five sixty six. I mean he's

944
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: he's long. But Sean Jones had power and he could

945
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 5: lean on you and then if he got you leaning,

946
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: he'd work the rit move or he could you know,

947
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 5: he could get you off balance. And so that's the

948
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 5: type of player. You know another you know, this guy's

949
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer. But remember Chris Dolman Pete.

950
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: He was a big, powerful, heavy handed, hump move, rit move,

951
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: bull rush type of guy. Again, big bodied, lean on

952
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 3: you type of guy, dominant, hall of famer.

953
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

954
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: And so I think that's how trade bon and and

955
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: what in watching him at the end of last year

956
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: and watching him camp so far and just seeing the

957
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: again small sample of work, I think that's where he's going.

958
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: He's so dominant it's to run and he can.

959
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: He's disrupted, he's violent, and I think that he's gonna

960
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: get better and better at rushing the pastor. And I

961
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 5: think again last year I said they'd have twenty five

962
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 5: They're gonna have at least twenty five stacks combined.

963
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: Again this year, come on, you gotta go higher.

964
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: Well, I'm okay, I will when it's time before the season,

965
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: I will.

966
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: I will walk sixty.

967
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Strandon was not as heavy as we got to

968
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: go to break well back in a moment. We've got

969
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: special teams talk ahead.

970
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: And we've got off season two. Talk to off season.

971
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: We got a whole hour to go we do. What

972
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: are you worried about? I thought it was just an

973
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: hour tonight. No, well, you can leave if you want.

974
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: Pete and I will carry the rest. That'd be the

975
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: best show of the year.

976
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: Usually.

977
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: Hey Pete, Hey Pete. Guess what, At some point here

978
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: in the near future, we're gonna get a show without

979
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: JP that will be the best show in the history

980
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: of the franchise through the roof. Oh my goodness, they

981
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: can't wait for just Pete and nine.

982
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: That will turn the radio off.

983
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 3: We're back. The Moment's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

984
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: Home Loans.

985
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.

986
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: I mean, it's pre season, it doesn't really count it,

987
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: but it was exciting to be able to start off

988
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 6: as this movie it's brand new and being able to

989
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 6: be the one.

990
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: Probably one of the first big returns. That was a

991
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: cool moment for.

992
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 7: Me and just want to continue to propel myself with that.

993
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

994
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: That's Parker Washington on the kickoff return looking for the

995
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Speaker 3: local for dealer. Proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. If

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Speaker 3: he Shatterick Tony Bisselli Pete Prisco. Only a couple of

1001
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: minutes left before the second hour of the program tonight

1002
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: when we finished with special teams seventy three yard kickoff

1003
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: for turned by Washington, forty five yarder from Tank Bigsby,

1004
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: who also had a good night in the running game

1005
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 3: as well, and then the Jaguars scored a safety when

1006
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: the kickoff win in the end zone came back out

1007
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: and then Mkole Hardman pulled it back in and kneel down.

1008
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: They had to review it, and of course the Jaguars

1009
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: feels like I have a kicker now, the place kicker,

1010
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: the rookie out of Arkansas, Cam Little, has a leg

1011
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: on him. He missed the sixty two yarder, who made

1012
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: his other three attempts in the game, So Pete's Special

1013
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: Team's pretty good day at the office.

1014
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that sixty two yarder was long enough.

1015
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: Oh, it hit the middle of the net.

1016
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: Oh.

1017
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: I was on the field when that was kicked, and

1018
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 5: I didn't know how long it was where I was

1019
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 5: sitting at the other end. I'm like, I wonder how

1020
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: far this is? And then I saw it go flying

1021
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: with velocity into the net and I'm like, wow, it's

1022
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 5: pretty good. I obviously missed it wide left. And when

1023
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: I found out that was a sixty two yarder, that's

1024
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: good bye. That's good at seventy. Yeah, oh yeah, I

1025
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: mean all day long, yep, good at seventy.

1026
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's interesting. And look, if you look

1027
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 7: at it on the surface, you could.

1028
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 6: Sit here and say, well, if if Washington can return

1029
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 6: like that, then you need to spend the money on

1030
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 6: on Dubernay.

1031
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, do you need two returners?

1032
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: You need to kick off now you do.

1033
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 6: Look, I think teams are gonna get to the point

1034
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 6: where they just kicked the ball out of the ends

1035
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 6: and say go ahead and start out of thirty.

1036
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: Until they changed the rule to thirty five.

1037
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1038
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 5: I think that's what John Payton's point is is like,

1039
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 5: make it to thirty five, then you you are in

1040
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 5: a pickle.

1041
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: And they said this is an ongoing process. They could

1042
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: change things as it goes.

1043
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: It stinks. It's a stupid rule.

1044
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: Okay, time out, quick, you got a minute. By the way,

1045
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: why do you think it's stupid? Real quick, and I'll

1046
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 5: give you my opinion. I disagree with.

1047
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: The ball on a twenty five or thirty yard line

1048
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 6: and play football if you don't.

1049
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 5: If you know, I love it. You need the kick

1050
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: to be a play. You got to defend it. It's

1051
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: part of the game. And I think the new rule

1052
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 5: is outstanding. I would tweak it and make it go

1053
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 5: to the thirty five if.

1054
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 3: You kick it deep.

1055
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 5: I think it's an exciting play. That's what fans want.

1056
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 5: It's like we're in the entertainment, but it's safe.

1057
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: They want it's safer. You know, it's been getting blasted

1058
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: the returner.

1059
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: I love it. I think it's great. We'll continue this

1060
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: discussion and we'll talk about the off season. That was

1061
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 3: that's coming up in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour.

1062
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 10: In just a moment, I did turn the day about

1063
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 10: talking to people.

1064
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: See all really the assets where.

1065
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 10: It's the but the potential it's.

1066
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 11: Just unbelievable, and for me, it was about bringing that

1067
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 11: all together. So you know, I'm I'm a deep believer

1068
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 11: and never doubt Jacksonville, and I think a lot more

1069
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 11: people now, you know, even outside the city, now know

1070
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 11: that you know our potential is unlimited.

1071
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: Jaguars owners shot con during the game broadcast night on

1072
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: the Jaguars Television Network.

1073
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: Welcome Back.

1074
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: The second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by

1075
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game, and

1076
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 3: during the game. JP Shadrick, Tony Boselli from the Miller

1077
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: Electric Center, the Hundai Studios and Pete Prisco down in

1078
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: South Florida. Your social media questions coming up a little bit.

1079
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: Will keep it real as we always do.

1080
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: And hey, the Jaguars being real. Yeah, We're gonna keep

1081
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: it real.

1082
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Check fake until that so fake the first hour

1083
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: fake fake news. This hour real coming up. Jaguars are

1084
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: the preseason Week one went over the Chiefs. Offensive and

1085
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: defensive starters played two drives. The Jags did not turn

1086
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: the ball over. Defense logged five sacks and thirteen quarterback

1087
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: hits in the game. Special teams impacts were felt all

1088
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: night two long kickoff returns and of safety. And now

1089
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: it's onto preseason Week two. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers come

1090
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: to town joint practices Wednesday and Thursday here at the

1091
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: Miller Electric Center. Those tickets are gone, by the way,

1092
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: and it's the final open practices of training camp. Starter

1093
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 3: is expected to get most of their work this week

1094
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 3: in those practices against the Bucks.

1095
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: So I want to go back to that clip that

1096
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 5: we played, bringing it back with Shod Khan.

1097
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it gives us a transition to our offseason.

1098
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: We talked about offseason.

1099
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: Three big thing kind of areas stadium, lock it up

1100
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: your guys, and then player acquisition we'll call it draft

1101
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 5: free agency. We'll talk about all that, but start with

1102
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 5: the stadium. You know what hit me watching that? And

1103
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 5: I've heard set talk about this a bunch. How fortunate,

1104
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 5: And Pete, you have a perspective because you're here.

1105
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: From the beginning.

1106
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: How fortunate we've been as an organization and then also

1107
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: as a city to have two great owners and the

1108
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: right owners for the right moment like what Wayne Weaver

1109
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 5: and the Weaver family did and leading the way of

1110
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: bringing a team to Jacksonville. And he was here when

1111
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: that happened. I was obviously brought in afterwards kind of

1112
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 5: the underdog city and to make it an NFL town

1113
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 5: was remarkable and what he did throughout the life of

1114
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 5: his time as the owner. He was a great owner

1115
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 5: and did a great job. And then even in selling

1116
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 5: it to find an owner that was committed to Jacksonville

1117
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 5: because he could Wayne could have done whatever Jacksonville was

1118
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 5: important to him. And selling it to Shad Khan who

1119
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 5: comes in no ties to Jacksonville but literally adopts Jacksonville

1120
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 5: and believes in the potential of this city, not just

1121
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: from as an NFL city, but also from downtown and

1122
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 5: infrastructure and investment.

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00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 3: It's really remarkable because you don't know what you're.

1124
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: Gonna get from the owner. I mean, and we were

1125
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 5: fortunate with Wayne. Like I said that he was the

1126
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 5: owner my whole time here. Was great to work with,

1127
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 5: great owner, and then when you transition you sell it.

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00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: You don't know how a guy coming in who has

1129
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: no real ties to the city house him and his

1130
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 5: family going to view the city. And what the con family,

1131
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 5: led by Shot have done for this organization and the

1132
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 5: latest of getting the stadium approved this offseason with the

1133
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 5: help of the leadership from the city Council and the

1134
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: Mayor's office. Meridgan is tremendous. It's going to change this city.

1135
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: It's going to keep this franchise here for thirty plus

1136
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 5: more years. It's gonna, i believe, gonna kick off even

1137
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 5: more development downtown from office to housing, to restaurants to entertainment,

1138
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 5: to hotels, and going to have a state of art

1139
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: facility to have all kinds of events, not just NFL

1140
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 5: on Sundays concerts and everything else. I just I sat

1141
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: back watching that little clip as just we were coming back,

1142
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: and I knew this already, but it hit me in

1143
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 5: Mike boy. I'm glad the franchise that I loved, and

1144
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 5: I had no choice when I came here because that's

1145
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: who I drafted me. But have made it my home

1146
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 5: that we've had. We're fortunate to have two great owners

1147
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 5: lead this organization and be part of the leadership of

1148
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: the city.

1149
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 6: And the amazing thing about it, Tony is if Wayne

1150
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 6: Weaver had taken the NFL up on its offer to

1151
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 6: be the number one owner in Saint Louis, there might

1152
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 6: not be a franchise in Jacksonville.

1153
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: That's right.

1154
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 4: So people don't.

1155
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: Realize that they went to Wayne and they said, Wayne,

1156
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 6: we want you, but we want you in Saint Louis

1157
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 6: and he said no, he said, I want Jacksonville.

1158
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 10: Wow.

1159
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 6: And that's how it ended up in Jacksonville. And so

1160
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 6: Wayne was Wayne did a heck of a job. Was

1161
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 6: passionate about that team, passionate about the city. And you're right,

1162
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 6: Sead con has done the same thing for so many years.

1163
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 6: Have we heard the stories about going to London and

1164
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 6: moving to a new city and going here and the

1165
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 6: fans don't back them. And look, guys, I work with

1166
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 6: Jason Lockafour. I've told them, I've argued with him. He

1167
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 6: owes me dinner because of it. We made a bet.

1168
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 6: I said they were never going anywhere, and Sead Cohn

1169
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 6: is committed to keep it that team at Jacksonville. I

1170
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 6: think it's great for the city. It's great that they

1171
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 6: got the They need a new stadium to make that

1172
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 6: thing fresh and new, and I think it's fantastic. But

1173
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 6: you're right, Tony, they need to build it around. They

1174
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 6: need to build up the city around the stadium.

1175
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: They have to. It's time.

1176
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 6: I mean downtown Jacksonville, with the river being what it is,

1177
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 6: is so underutilized for what it can be. You know,

1178
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 6: I've always been a big believer that if I if

1179
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 6: I was the mayor of that city, I'd get the

1180
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 6: jail the hell out of there and put it in

1181
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 6: cecil Field. I would make develops down there, bars and restaurants,

1182
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 6: so you can take uber from the beach or wherever

1183
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 6: southside and be stuck downtown.

1184
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 7: But you have options. It's not just one, two, three places.

1185
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 7: You have fifteen of them.

1186
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 6: And then you know, for right now there's nothing to

1187
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 6: do down there. You got to make it a destination.

1188
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 6: I think they will, and I think getting a stadium

1189
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 6: done will help that.

1190
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: That's the first time I had heard the Wayne Weaver

1191
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis story. But it's also shod Con story too.

1192
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: It d Rockey doesn't take the option on the Rams,

1193
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: then shot cons the owner of the Rams in Saint Louis. No,

1194
00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1195
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: We're we are fortunate to have two guys who believed

1196
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville and wanted to make it work here.

1197
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 3: And I love what Sead said.

1198
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 5: He goes, I'm a bleak believer in the future and

1199
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 5: the potential of Jacksonville, like he has been from the beginning.

1200
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 6: And neither one of them were Jacksonville. No I'm telling

1201
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 6: you wasn't a Jacksonville guy either.

1202
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 5: No, we've been fortunate two great owners at the right

1203
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: time for the right circumstances. And that goes into the

1204
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: second point. I mean, look at what we did this

1205
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 5: offseason with signing Trevor Lawrence.

1206
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the two that happened in the offseason.

1207
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 5: First, Trevor Lawrence and Josh Heinz Allen two blockbuster deals

1208
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 5: and basically said and like that takes a it's yes,

1209
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 5: salary cap and yes, I'm not I mean, the owners

1210
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: make a ton of money in the TV deal and

1211
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: there's a lot of money and everything else. However, and

1212
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: Pete knows this, and I know JP knows this too.

1213
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 5: Not all owners are created equal when it comes to

1214
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: cash out lay guaranteed and what and how what you

1215
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: can do. And the commitment from Shod Cohn and the

1216
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 5: con family to invest in Trevor Lawrence and Josh Eines

1217
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 5: Allen is big time. And that's like, you got to

1218
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 5: sign up your stars. It's important for the organization, it's

1219
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: important for the fan base, so they have guys that

1220
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 5: can follow and fall in love with. And then it

1221
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 5: can't bring in Tyson Campbell and and locking him up

1222
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: to a good deal for both sides. And I just

1223
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 5: thought that.

1224
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: Was so important this offseason. And for a while, I

1225
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: didn't know if it was gonna get done.

1226
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I wish we could have got

1227
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 5: the Josh Eines Allen done deal a little bit earlier.

1228
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 5: Maybe that'd give him some freedom what we did with

1229
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: other people, But so be it. It didn't happen for

1230
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 5: whatever reason. But getting that done and with UH, with

1231
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 5: Trent as part of the process lead the way and

1232
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: the front office and working with Shod and working with

1233
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: Doug and everyone working together to get those two deals

1234
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 5: done are huge. And then and Tyson Campbell as well.

1235
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 5: That's that's you got to have those players.

1236
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 6: And here's the other thing, Tony, you mentioned the cash

1237
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 6: part of it. Look, Shod Cohn is one of the

1238
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 6: wealthiest owners of the NFL. He can write checks for cash,

1239
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 6: you know he can. But here's the difference between a

1240
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 6: lot of the other wealthy owners like we Stan Cronky

1241
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: as example. Kronky has the revenue stream of Los Angeles

1242
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 6: in that stadium. There's a big difference the money that

1243
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 6: comes into a franchise in a city like LA with

1244
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 6: that stadium compared to what's coming in from this city

1245
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 6: of Jacksonville is different, and that makes it more of

1246
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 6: a challenge to come off the hip for the cash

1247
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 6: for a guy like shod Cohn. So yeah, I mean, look,

1248
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 6: you had to do it. You have to lock up

1249
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 6: your franchise quarterback, so sooner rather than later. We know

1250
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 6: this thing's gonna keep going up. You have an edge

1251
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 6: rusher who's coming off an unreal season, he's in his prime.

1252
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 6: You had to do it. Then we get to the

1253
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 6: other one. That one is more based on what he can.

1254
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: Do Tyson Campbell than what he's done.

1255
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 6: I think there's speculating a little bit more on that

1256
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 6: one than on the other two.

1257
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: Now Devil's advocate on that, Pete, Could you argue that

1258
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: with the quarterback.

1259
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 7: Too, No, No, if you go back and look at

1260
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 7: the quarterbacks games in the last year and a half

1261
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 7: year over the course of two seasons when he was healthy,

1262
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 7: if you add those numbers up, no.

1263
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: And I also think you look at the quarterback differently.

1264
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 5: The question you have to ask yourself, can we envision

1265
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 5: this guy leading us to his championship? And unequivocal yes,

1266
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 5: with Trevor Lawrence.

1267
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing about about the Campbell and

1268
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 6: and the Hinds Allen signings. They're getting what top five

1269
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 6: money at the position both of them.

1270
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: Is Tyson Campbell top five?

1271
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: Pete, I wasn't thinking.

1272
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure that I believe Josh is.

1273
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's close. But if he if he

1274
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 4: if he's if he's one of.

1275
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 6: The top five paid corners, he's certainly not one of

1276
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 6: the top five corners in the league.

1277
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: No, not at this point.

1278
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 5: The way I looked at it and looked at the

1279
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 5: structure of the deal, and I just full disclosure. It's

1280
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 5: not like I spent a bunch of time on this comparing,

1281
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: you know, his deal to other corners. But the sense

1282
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 5: I got Pete it was I thought it was a

1283
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 5: smart move. If you believe that he is a he's

1284
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 5: your number one corner and it can be that for

1285
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 5: a while, especially in the style of defense that Ryan

1286
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 5: Nielsen wants to play, because that's a premium position and

1287
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 5: he's he's not going to get any cheaper.

1288
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: When he's a free agent, and you know that if

1289
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: if you.

1290
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 6: Get to the third year of that deal, and they'll

1291
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 6: tear it up because he's his cap figure is twenty

1292
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 6: three to nine, twenty four to eight in those you know,

1293
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 6: so it's.

1294
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, because you know this beat, if they will

1295
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: let him get the free agency, let's just say he's

1296
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 3: the top ten corner somebody's gonna pay him a bunch

1297
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: of money because that's a premium position. Tyson Campbell.

1298
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: Now the uh let's see one, two, three, four, seventh

1299
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: highest paid average per year?

1300
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, corner.

1301
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: Is he the seventh best cornerback in the league? So

1302
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: as of right now, he's not.

1303
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: No, he's not.

1304
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 5: But Trevor is one of the top five highest paid quarterbacks.

1305
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 5: And if you asked anyone, is he one of the

1306
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 5: top five quarterbacks? No, but that you can't.

1307
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: I think that the point earlier quarterbacks a different position.

1308
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: When I.

1309
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 5: Agree with that, however, I also think it's smart that

1310
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: you have to be looking forward because you can't put

1311
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: yourself in a position as an organization what happened with

1312
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 5: Josh heinz Allen last year, where you are now at

1313
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 5: the mercy of either a franchise tag or negotiating against

1314
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 5: the rest of the league to try to keep your guys.

1315
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 5: If you believe and obviously Trent Doug and the powers

1316
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: that be believe that Tyson Campbell is your number one

1317
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 5: corner and can be that for the long term, and

1318
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 5: that he fits how you want to play football and

1319
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 5: play defense. If that's the case, I'm okay paying a

1320
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 5: little bit more earlier because that number is going to

1321
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 5: grow and next year, guess what he'll be about the

1322
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 5: twelfth highest paid corner in the league.

1323
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: Well, he has to be a top ten corner this year,

1324
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: though you would agree.

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Speaker 5: With that, Yeah, I mean that's what that's what you're projecting.

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Speaker 4: Top ten.

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01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what you're projecting, no doubt about it. But

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: you know this works. You could be a top five,

1329
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 5: top seven paid player, whatever the metric is.

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Speaker 3: The next year, you're not gonna be. That doesn't last long.

1331
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 5: It does because the caps only going up and guys

1332
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 5: are only gonna get paid more money. And it's only

1333
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 5: it's gonna if they go to eighteen games, it's gonna

1334
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 5: increase even more.

1335
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 6: And so of the three, that one was a little

1336
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 6: the more most eye opening of the three deal.

1337
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was eye opening, Pete.

1338
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 5: It did catch me by surprise that they were that

1339
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 5: proactive thinking ahead, and I liked it though. I thought

1340
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 5: it was a good move by Trent, and I thought

1341
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: they did a good job getting him locked up because

1342
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Speaker 5: I do think.

1343
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: He's a he's a he's a top half quarter in

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: this league.

1345
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: He's paid like a top top corner.

1346
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: So he's paid like a top No think about this.

1347
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 3: Be hold on a.

1348
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 6: Top half corner makes you you know what, thirty two

1349
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 6: better than thirty two in your top half quarner.

1350
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 5: No, I said when I was saying, he's a top sixteen,

1351
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 5: top half number one corn so I got a thirty

1352
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 5: two teams, I think you would say he's one of

1353
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 5: the top sixteen corners in this league.

1354
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 3: What is that face? Look at that thing?

1355
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, seriously, I don't know if he's he's

1356
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 6: ten to fifteen.

1357
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 5: Well a year ago, before last year, he was one

1358
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 5: of the highest rate PFF corners in the NFL.

1359
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: Is still.

1360
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: You're good?

1361
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: I was hoping you guys wouldn't. I was actually hoping

1362
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 3: you wouldn't catch that. I use it.

1363
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: What does the world come to?

1364
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: I was hold that would slide by on the download man.

1365
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 3: Fair enough, I got caught by the way.

1366
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: Ten to fifteen is still top sixteen, Pete.

1367
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 6: No, you think he's a ten to fifteen of the

1368
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 6: number one corners in the league.

1369
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: Problem?

1370
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do. I do.

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01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 4: But here's the problem. Some teams have two that are

1372
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: better than eh.

1373
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

1374
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 1: We've got plenty ahead. We haven't even touched play calling.

1375
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 3: Well, we're not going to get to that. We're talking.

1376
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,479
Speaker 5: I want to talk free agency and draft real quick,

1377
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 5: because I think that was like listen, we have not

1378
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 5: talked about it. I'd love Pete's opinion because they went

1379
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: I'll say this on the free agency side, they went

1380
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 5: with older guys and there's risk in that.

1381
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: Now they got good players.

1382
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 5: Mitch Morris good player, ten year guy, Eric Armstead good player,

1383
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 5: ten year guy coming off injuries, Darby older player. I

1384
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 5: mean they went after older guys. Now Kave Davis is

1385
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 5: a fifth year guy.

1386
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: But they're all from winning organizations too.

1387
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that, but I don't know if you

1388
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 5: know this, uh JP, Old guys usually don't get healthier, stronger,

1389
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 5: and faster.

1390
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: It's a young man.

1391
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: I'm not being don't take this as critical of any

1392
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: of those guys, because they're all really good players, and

1393
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: if they are healthy. They make this team better, and

1394
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: so I understand why, but it's not without some risk.

1395
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: Not so questions are what do they have left? I mean,

1396
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: I'll be honest.

1397
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 6: I was in Buffalo last week and I asked about

1398
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 6: Morse and they liked him.

1399
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: They liked him around. He's a great guy to have

1400
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 4: in the building.

1401
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 6: But you know, some people were wondering how much does

1402
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 6: he have left and how much will he be committed

1403
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 6: to it for past past a couple of years. I mean,

1404
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 6: that's that's the issue. When you signed guys like that.

1405
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: A couple of years, two years.

1406
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 4: Tony's right, ten years is that's a long time in

1407
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 4: the NFL. You No.

1408
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: My only point is I'm less worried about Mitch Morris

1409
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: because if you look at his career, there's no there's

1410
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 3: no like glaring injury history. He had concussions at one point,

1411
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 3: he did, but he's been consistent on the field the

1412
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: last several years. Pete, if I'm not mistaken.

1413
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 4: He's a good and he's a good player.

1414
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 6: But by the way, it's like somebody told me once, wait,

1415
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 6: long time ago, they wanted to get rid of Tebow

1416
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 6: and Denver, and the only way they could get rid

1417
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 6: of him was to sign Peyton Man. They didn't care

1418
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 6: if he was healthy or not. It got him out

1419
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 6: of there. Well, you know what, you got to get

1420
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 6: somebody in there to get rid of Luke Fordner in

1421
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 6: the middle of that line to become an effective offense.

1422
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 4: They got somebody. So if if it's for a year

1423
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: or two, they did the right thing.

1424
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 5: And okay, but I'm just looking. I mean, you look

1425
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 5: at like Eric Armstead. I think Air Armstead healthy is

1426
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 5: one of the better three techniques in this league.

1427
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: And he's long, and he's.

1428
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: A very good pass rusher. He's played on winning teams.

1429
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 5: He's a physical force. But he's also a ten year

1430
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 5: guy coming off of a surgery.

1431
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 4: And he hasn't practiced yet.

1432
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: Right, And I'm not like I'm a believer in Eric Armstead.

1433
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, when you take that path, that strategy

1434
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 5: where we're gonna go get veteran guys, older guys winning

1435
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 5: organizations because we want to change the locker room, we

1436
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 5: want to change the mentality, we want that winning culture.

1437
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 5: Those are all positives. I raised my hand, I'm in

1438
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: and guess what, A lot of times that works. But

1439
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 5: there's risk with that and if you look at what

1440
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 5: we did up front, besides that, especially in the offensive line,

1441
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 5: we didn't do much else. Now, on the defensive line,

1442
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 5: they did go in the draft and got Mason Smith

1443
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,959
Speaker 5: and they made some other moves. But that's the one

1444
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 5: thing that it will be interesting Like that would be

1445
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 5: my only criticism of the offseason.

1446
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: We gotta come back.

1447
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 4: We'll say this, I know you gotta break j one

1448
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: quick thing.

1449
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 6: One of those off young offensive lineman caught my eye

1450
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: on tape the other day.

1451
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 5: By the way, was it the guy who played right

1452
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 5: guard then left guard?

1453
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, that guy needs to play.

1454
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, well, let's come back to the

1455
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 5: offensive line because I'm with you, Pete.

1456
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: But where do you play him and whose job does

1457
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: he take?

1458
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna keep it real when we come back.

1459
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: That might be a good keep it real. I think

1460
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: it's great and I want to make sure before we

1461
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 3: go to break.

1462
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not being critical of Eric Armistead, Mitch Morris

1463
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 5: or their signings at all. They're starting caliber. They make

1464
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 5: you better. My only point is when you sign ten

1465
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: year guys that have history like that's always a concern.

1466
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 3: Now being critical that means they're trying. Pete, Pete, do

1467
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: you disagree with me?

1468
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm not being I agree with you, but we're being critical.

1469
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: We're making it okay.

1470
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 10: Fair.

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01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: Chubbies brought in I mean wings tonight, chicken raps for

1472
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 3: our production staff. Tony, it's for you as well, if

1473
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: you'd like to get out there and have some Mister

1474
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: Chubbies wings before the game, after the game end, during

1475
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: the game.

1476
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: We'll keep it real when we come back.

1477
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:33,320
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Speaker 3: from the Miller Electric Center, the Hyundai's Studios Pee Prisco

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Speaker 3: down in South Florida. Time for Keeping It Real presented

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Speaker 3: by Well it's available this year. We've got a couple

1488
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,479
Speaker 3: of topics tonight. We started with the offensive line, as

1489
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: Tony referenced earlier, and we got our first look at

1490
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: guys in the game and the most offensive snaps. For

1491
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: the offensive line, cole Van Lannon and Cooper Hodges each

1492
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: played forty nine snaps in the game eighty four percent

1493
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: of the offensive snaps. Luke Fordner got thirty four snaps,

1494
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: fifty nine percent, Walker Little, who started at right tackle,

1495
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: played thirty snaps in the game. Javon Foster, the addition

1496
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: from Missouri in the draft, forty eight percent, and Shatley

1497
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: got a bunch of snaps at guard. The starters Robinson

1498
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: Morrison Sheriff each had nine snaps and left the game,

1499
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 3: And of course Anton Harrison out with a concussion, and

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01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 3: left guard Ezra Cleveland did not play in the game.

1501
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: So you guys referenced a player who played right guard

1502
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 3: and left guard in the game.

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 5: Well, based on what you just said, Cooper Hodges, I

1504
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 5: was impressed, and you know he fought that he got hurt.

1505
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: Last year.

1506
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 5: He had a good camp till he got hurt. This

1507
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 5: camp he had I think he had something to bother

1508
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 5: him early.

1509
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was ever a discloser, but there's.

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 5: Something he felt like and I remember watching some limitations

1511
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 5: or something he played during camp. He's played center, He's

1512
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 5: played guard a lot of center. That's what Jeff's told me.

1513
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 5: I haven't seen as many practices he has, and so

1514
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 5: I was really interested to see what he did when

1515
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 5: he came into the game because.

1516
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: He is a big, powerful man.

1517
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 5: Like he is strong, and I think one of the

1518
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 5: criticisms that I had last year of this team was

1519
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 5: that we struggled to move the ball, moved the line

1520
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, control line scrimmage, third and one, third and

1521
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 5: two fourth and one goal line situations, played a lot

1522
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 5: of two point stance, and we didn't really displace the.

1523
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: Defensive line very often. Watching Hodges, he moves people. He

1524
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: is physical. He's a big, strong man, and if it continues,

1525
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: I think you got to find a way to get

1526
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: him on the field. Now it's one preseason game. We'll

1527
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: see what he does during Uh. He's really a rookie

1528
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: if you think about it, because he's not played any

1529
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 3: NFL games. It would be interesting to see how he

1530
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 3: matches up against the Bucks and these two practices. He's

1531
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: going to get a lot of reps because I don't

1532
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: think the starters are going to play much in the game,

1533
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: so that means he's going to play a lot. But

1534
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: early indications very positive, and that's what you need to do.

1535
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Speaker 3: I mean the mid mid round.

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 5: Pick small school, smaller school, we'll play tackle in college.

1537
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 3: You bring him in.

1538
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 5: He's a guard and he has a physicality that can

1539
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 5: help you win football games. And I thought he played well.

1540
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought he was really physical playing right and

1541
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 6: he looked more comfortable on the right side. Tony, I thought,

1542
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 6: I thought he looked much more comfortable on the right side,

1543
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 6: really got into people, moved him in the run game,

1544
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 6: got off his blocks, and got to the second level,

1545
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 6: which again sometimes when you're a big, powerful guy, that's

1546
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 6: not necessarily.

1547
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 7: A strength of yours, and you know they want to

1548
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 7: do a lot of that. So I was impressed.

1549
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 6: And look, if he continues to play like that, dare

1550
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 6: we say it that maybe he's a starter?

1551
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 3: So who do you bench?

1552
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 4: I know where I would I play the right guard.

1553
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 5: Paying a lot of money for your right guard Pete

1554
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 5: to have him as a backup.

1555
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 6: Okay, but you you said something before that I thought

1556
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 6: was very telling about.

1557
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 4: The right guard isn't as physical as he used to be.

1558
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: No, I mean he's he's played a lot of football,

1559
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: tenth to your player, a lot of football. He doesn't.

1560
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: He's not, he's not. He's on another team.

1561
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: He signed him to a deal next year.

1562
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: I mean, like if I want, if I.

1563
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 4: If I you guys didn't laugh at that one.

1564
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm talking about I'm trying to be nice

1565
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 3: Pete and not engage in your ridiculous comments. But I mean,

1566
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 3: if you if you look at Brandon Sheriff, he is

1567
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 3: a veteran leader, really smart football player. He's a pros pro.

1568
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: I think he's still very good. What I still think

1569
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: he is a good past, good pass blocker. He's not

1570
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 3: he's gonna never gonna be in the wrong position. He's

1571
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 3: not gonna have missed assignments. But the but he's not

1572
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: gonna he's not a road grader. He doesn't have the

1573
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: legs that he once did. He's not gonna you know,

1574
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 3: move people like a younger. Like as not his game anymore.

1575
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: And but he's still a good football player. So I mean,

1576
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: and they signed Ezra Cleveland offseason paid him some money

1577
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 3: to be a starter as well.

1578
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 5: There's only spots, only two guards.

1579
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 6: But don't you think, don't you think Hodges look better

1580
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 6: on the right side than he did in the left though.

1581
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 5: I'd have to I'd have to watch it closer. Pete,

1582
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 5: I didn't jump, that didn't jump out at me.

1583
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 4: Watch it, watch it, you'll see.

1584
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: But I thought what.

1585
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 5: Jumped out of what jumped out at me is his physicality,

1586
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 5: No doubt, that's what jumped out at me.

1587
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 3: So now it's early, small sample size.

1588
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 4: Listen, that wasn't exactly playing Chris Jones either.

1589
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, he was not.

1590
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 5: And so yeah, like, how does he handle a elite

1591
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 5: like we know that Brandon Sheriff against elite three techniques

1592
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 5: can manage the situation, and it's savvy enough to figure

1593
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 5: out how to you know, play against a guy like

1594
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 5: that just because of his instincts, his knowledge, his you

1595
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 5: know everything about him, and he's athletic.

1596
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 6: But but but on the surface, looking at the two

1597
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 6: and the way their style of play is, if you

1598
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 6: want to be a better running team, which they want

1599
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 6: to be, he would seem to be more apt to

1600
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 6: be that guy that would amp up the run game.

1601
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I just don't.

1602
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna have had like this, By the way,

1603
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 5: this is what you want. This is how this is

1604
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 5: a good sign that you're a good team. Like you

1605
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 5: want hard decisions like that to be in front of you. Like,

1606
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 5: we have multiple guys that we think are starters. How

1607
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 5: do we organize this and who who? What gives us

1608
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 5: the best opportunity to play the style football that we

1609
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 5: want to play.

1610
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: What'd you think of the left tackle? The starter?

1611
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 3: Small? I mean yeah, fine?

1612
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 4: Just what did you think of Walker Little at right tackle?

1613
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: Same thing? Fine? I mean I thought it was fine. No,

1614
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't. I didn't.

1615
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 5: Wasn't jumping out of my chair going that was amazing.

1616
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 5: But there was nothing that you watch it like, oh

1617
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 5: my gosh, we're in trouble. I mean no, So I

1618
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 5: mean you always gotta be careful, I think with the

1619
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 5: veterans sometimes in these early preseason games. Yeah, you know,

1620
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 5: how much Like how much juice did Cam really go

1621
01:13:59,040 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 5: out there?

1622
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? When it gets real, he always has he has

1623
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: the juice.

1624
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 6: Okay, but Tony, you played the preseason sometimes that if

1625
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 6: you didn't, If you didn't, you didn't have the same juice,

1626
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 6: but when you lined up, you're playing.

1627
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 4: You're not gonna let somebody beat you either.

1628
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 5: No new So that's why I hated preseason, because you

1629
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 5: go in there with not as much juice. You're trying

1630
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 5: to just you know, if I'm being honest, there's times

1631
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're counting the plays to get through the

1632
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 5: quarter or the half or whatever, because you know you're

1633
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 5: not it's not about winning or losing per se. I mean, overall,

1634
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 5: you want to win the game, but you're not going

1635
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 5: to be in it to impact it. And so really

1636
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 5: you're going out there to try to get good work,

1637
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 5: put good film on it on tape, I mean, put

1638
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 5: good work on film and uh. And the other thing

1639
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 5: is I didn't want to be embarrassed because I knew

1640
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 5: I was gonna have to watch it with Mike Maser

1641
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 5: the next day. I had no desire to have my

1642
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 5: you know what ripped. And then there's just professional pride.

1643
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 5: You're stepping on the field and you know that the

1644
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 5: other thirty one teams are gonna see this. But it's harder.

1645
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm being honest, Pete, it was harder.

1646
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, as a veteran, I didn't like, I'm like,

1647
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 5: my goodness, like we're gonna go out there, especially if

1648
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 5: like you're playing some young guy who's trying to do

1649
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 5: something impressive. I'm like, listen, I'm just trying to get

1650
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 5: my work in like.

1651
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: He's trying to do. To the preseason.

1652
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, you know, and I'll tell Pete.

1653
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 5: I'll tell a story my second year, and I'll be

1654
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 5: quick because I know we're playing the Rams in the

1655
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 5: preseason and uh, Leslie O'Neill is the right end in

1656
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 5: the preseason, and you know, growing up in the NFC West,

1657
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 5: he was at San Diego Charger, forever Pro Bowl player,

1658
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 5: All Proague, one of the best, I mean, really good

1659
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 5: right end, top right end.

1660
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: And I remember going to the game.

1661
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 5: I was like, I was a little anxious and nervous, like, hey,

1662
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 5: I got I got a good player, and I went

1663
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 5: and just wore him out the preseason. I mean, I

1664
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 5: was like, come on, what's going on here? We played

1665
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 5: him six weeks seven weeks later in the regular season,

1666
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 5: and I'll remember, never forget the first series.

1667
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 3: It was a different dude. I walked to the sideline,

1668
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, uh, this is a different guy I'm

1669
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 3: playing because you know, I went into the game like

1670
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: I know this guy feel good. I mean, it's gonna

1671
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 3: be a problem.

1672
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 5: And it was a It was a fistfight for sixty

1673
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 5: minutes against Leslie O'Neill because he dial it up. It

1674
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 5: was a different pace and everything else, which I should

1675
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 5: have known. It was my second year. But as a

1676
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,919
Speaker 5: veteran guy, you gotta.

1677
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: Be careful not to.

1678
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 5: Take it too easy or too lacks of days ago.

1679
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 5: You have to bring enough energy because one, it's a

1680
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 5: dangerous game. You don't want to get hurt. You don't

1681
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 5: want to get someone else hurt, and you don't want

1682
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 5: to look like a fool on the field. So but

1683
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 5: that's a long way of saying Cam, like was it great?

1684
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 3: Was it bad? It's like, Okay, he went out, got

1685
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: some working nine.

1686
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: Give me the five starting line offensive lineman on a.

1687
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: It's gonna be right now.

1688
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Cam left, Ezra left guard, Mitch center,

1689
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 5: Brandon right guard, and Anton Harrison right tackle.

1690
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 4: Okay, give me the starting lineup six weeks in fete.

1691
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not going down that path, you.

1692
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 6: Know, because we've heard all about Cooper Hodges and so

1693
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 6: I was like a little you know, sometimes you hear this.

1694
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 5: Oh, I was so tired of Jeff Logman. It has

1695
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 5: a man crush on Cooper Hodges.

1696
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 4: When I was there, he was talking about I'm like, Jeff,

1697
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 4: stop here. And then when I watched the tape, I

1698
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 4: went yeah, And.

1699
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 5: I hate I hate admitting that Logman's right about anything,

1700
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 5: but he was dead on on that one.

1701
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 10: Man.

1702
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,480
Speaker 3: I was like, he was credit.

1703
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 4: Carries over at some point, he's got to get on

1704
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 4: the field.

1705
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: Well he plays like that.

1706
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: Pete.

1707
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 3: Yes, that is keeping it real And we're back in

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01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 3: a moment with fanatics, fan questions, and plenty more ahead

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,679
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Speaker 1: After preseason Week one.

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01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 3: Jaguars went over the chief Sits onto Week two, the

1715
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 3: Buccaneers come to town for Wednesday Thursday joint practices, then

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Speaker 3: the game Saturday night at the Bank. The Buccaneers and

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars coming up time now for the fanatics. So

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, Pete Prisco's here too. He's done in South Florida.

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Speaker 1: You have the floor, Pete, But okay, but no, don't

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Speaker 1: mention that.

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Speaker 3: Don't bring it up.

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Speaker 3: I did not. You listen. I don't listen to.

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Speaker 4: You often we met you think Pete to pronoun.

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Speaker 5: McCardell. McCardell. I got it, Pete.

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1748
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: I had sea paying Tony. It's hard. You and Peter

1749
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: are the same species.

1750
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: We're not.

1751
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm a grown man and Pete is a little person.

1752
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 4: I'm a short person, but I'm not a little person.

1753
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 4: I'm a short person.

1754
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 5: Oh, I was trying to Now, I was trying to.

1755
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 5: I was gonna say short because you used to be

1756
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 5: short and wide. Now you're just short and little.

1757
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 4: Well, you used to be tall and wide.

1758
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough. There's a little height discrepancy there.

1759
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 3: Seth pain of course. Former Jaguars defensive tackle now a

1760
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 3: radio host down in Houston. Pete, how much weight have

1761
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 3: you lost?

1762
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 4: About forty something?

1763
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 3: It's pretty good. Do you want to lose any more?

1764
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Close?

1765
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 6: It depends what the doctor says. If he says yes,

1766
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 6: then I'll go. If he says no, I won't. Okay,

1767
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 6: I got appointment in two weeks.

1768
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 3: You keep tracking. You might want to start keeping track

1769
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 3: too for yourself.

1770
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: So cruel, I'm not what are you talking about?

1771
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 3: Man? All of a sudden, the first I'm in a decade,

1772
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 3: you're a skinny guy, and now you're it's two judge,

1773
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 3: it's actually like three deersonal attacks. It's been I was

1774
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 3: skinny last year. I haven't lost that much a way

1775
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: from last year.

1776
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: Yes you have, I have not.

1777
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 6: P It's a shame. It's a shame we didn't get

1778
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 6: to take the picture this year. Then we could have

1779
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 6: seen how.

1780
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 3: Speedy in that picture last year, I weighed probably two

1781
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty two.

1782
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: And for those just joining us, I put the picture

1783
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: from last year of us three together.

1784
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: I can't x today and I.

1785
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 4: And im and I'm smaller than that and that pic

1786
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 4: that wasn't.

1787
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was probably to fifty two there and I'm

1788
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: two forty two to forty five now, I mean I'm

1789
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: smaller than that too, for the record, Now you're not

1790
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: not really. Next question at Jinja Ninja five eight, did

1791
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 3: the Jags do enough on the O line? How much

1792
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 3: of the run game struggles is personnel versus scheme?

1793
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 5: Well, listen, I mean Pete and I are both the

1794
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 5: same on this one where it's about Jimmy's and Joe's,

1795
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 5: not x's and O's. And obviously coach he's important and

1796
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 5: technique is important. I think Phil Roush is a very

1797
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 5: good offensive line coach. And so now, do I think

1798
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 5: they needed to be put their hand in the dirt

1799
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 5: a little bit more than they did last year? Yeah,

1800
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 5: I mean I've said that's the phil I mean, but

1801
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 5: they had a philosophy of that what they were trying

1802
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 5: to do offensively and what they thought they could do great.

1803
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 5: I think they change it this year. They could be

1804
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 5: more hand in the ground. So if you want to

1805
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 5: call that, you know, technique or philosophy or scheme.

1806
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1807
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 5: But if you look at what they did, I mean,

1808
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 5: let's call it what it is. They felt like they're

1809
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 5: good enough upfront except for the center, because they're rolling

1810
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 5: out the same offensive line outside of the center, and

1811
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 5: so they basically said.

1812
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 4: We were stood straight up last year. This guy does it.

1813
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 4: That's the difference.

1814
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 5: Pete, Like, I think we agree, but that I mean,

1815
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 5: I think the organization agrees. I mean, all you can

1816
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 5: do is judge it by what they did this offseason,

1817
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 5: and they basically said our room is good enough as is,

1818
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 5: except for the center, and we're going to bring in

1819
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 5: a veteran center to fill that hole. And at the

1820
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 5: same time developed some of these younger guys like Cooper

1821
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 5: Hodges and so on and so forth.

1822
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: You always got to be doing that.

1823
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 5: But as far as coming out of the last game

1824
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 5: last year, and they evaluated the offseason, and they evaluated

1825
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 5: personnel between Trent and Doug, and in this case, I'm

1826
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 5: sure Phil Rauscher, the offensive line coach, had a voice

1827
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 5: and they looked at their room and said, we just

1828
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 5: need to upgrade the center and we are good enough

1829
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 5: to win and win a championship, because that's the goal.

1830
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the goal is to win and win.

1831
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1832
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 5: And I'm pretty I didn't hear it, but I've heard

1833
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 5: people tell me on the broadcast. Our owner shot con

1834
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 5: was pretty clear on the broadcast like we're here to

1835
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 5: win now. I mean, I didn't hear the whole thing,

1836
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 5: but that's what I was told by people who did listen.

1837
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 5: I'm sure you heard it, JP kright, you did not, Okay, Stad,

1838
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 5: That's right, you were in the stadium. But I think

1839
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 5: the emphasis is like we're going to win now, and

1840
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 5: they felt like the only change they needed to make

1841
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 5: to do that is change the center out. So it's

1842
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 5: the same group with a new center. And do I

1843
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 5: think it's another that.

1844
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 4: Might have a new right guard right now?

1845
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 5: It's the same group with a new center. And do

1846
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 5: I think Mitch Morris is a better center than Luke Fordner?

1847
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 5: I do? Do I think he makes them better? I do?

1848
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 5: Do I think they'll be better in the run game

1849
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 5: and in past game and protection because of him.

1850
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: I do.

1851
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 4: And Plus you got to assume the growth of Harrison

1852
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 4: at right tackle.

1853
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 3: M hm, well, that's the only young player you're expecting

1854
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: to get better.

1855
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 4: Well, the growth of Cooper Hodge is at right guard.

1856
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 5: As I said, going in now, obviously they believe in

1857
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 5: Cooper Hodges and and I do too, especially after what

1858
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 5: I saw.

1859
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 4: Guy. He's more of an athletic guy. You can get moved,

1860
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 4: and he is that.

1861
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 3: He is good at the next level. He's athletic, but

1862
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 3: there's an Ezra has a little nastiness to him. He's

1863
01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 3: a he's a tough But that's the bet they made

1864
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: in the offseason.

1865
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 4: Just I think they'll be better, just because the center's

1866
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: not in there too.

1867
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: Next question at Tartan Teal buzzing that the show is Backfellas,

1868
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: which second year guy are you expecting to make the

1869
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: biggest jump this season? You mentioned a few second year guys.

1870
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: Who makes the biggest jump of year two players?

1871
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna We've talked enough about Cooper Hodges and I

1872
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 5: don't know if he's gonna be a starter, so set

1873
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:30,879
Speaker 5: him aside.

1874
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 3: Offensively, I'm gonna go with Tank big By.

1875
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: He looked good at the other season.

1876
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,480
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna make the biggest jump uh.

1877
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: And I think they are gonna you know, we heard

1878
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: a lot about in the offseas about on boarding a

1879
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: players and so on and so forth. I think they

1880
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: have a plan and they're gonna stick to it with Tank,

1881
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna be a big part of uh,

1882
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: of the offense.

1883
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 5: I think he'll make a huge jump. And then I

1884
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 5: think defensively, it's gonna be Antonio Johnson.

1885
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 6: When you looked at Bigsby was much more decisive the

1886
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 6: other night. You remember Tony last year and we were critical

1887
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 6: of them the times when he tried to bounce yep off.

1888
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was really good, Pete and I Yeah,

1889
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you this, if the turf Monster doesn't

1890
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 3: get him, takes that touchdown, take the kickoff for a touchdown.

1891
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep. Yeah, he's more decisive.

1892
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 3: He's looked great in camp, and he looked good on

1893
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 3: Saturday Night. So those are the two guys i'd go with.

1894
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 6: I would agree with you on both of them.

1895
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 3: Easy enough. Final question at dealing Underscore, you're non tan

1896
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 3: Josh heinz Awen and Trayvon Walker combined for thirty plus

1897
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 3: sex last year, Tony, you said twenty five and they

1898
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: were over that, what twenty seven and a half? Right

1899
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 3: at twenty seven and a half, they led the league

1900
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 3: as a duo. As a duo, would you dare go

1901
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 3: thirty plus? I'm not going to go thirty plus? Why not?

1902
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 3: Because I've just that's.

1903
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 4: It because I but you know, it's funny.

1904
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 6: Tony said twenty five last year, and I laughed at

1905
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 6: him and I said, if they get twenty.

1906
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 4: Five, they're gonna be in the super Bowl. Well, they

1907
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 4: got twenty five and they weren't close to him.

1908
01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 3: They didn't make the playoffs.

1909
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, yea, So if okay, because Josh Allen's Heinz Allen's

1910
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 6: probably not getting his seventeen and a half. His has

1911
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 6: probably come down a little bit, and Trayvon Walkers might

1912
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 6: go up a little bit, not significantly. So I'm with Tony.

1913
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 6: I don't think they get the thirty. I think they're

1914
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 6: like between twenty five and thirty.

1915
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree with you, Pete.

1916
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 5: Here's the wild card though, because they had twenty seven

1917
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 5: and a half between the two of them, they only

1918
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 5: had forty as a team, So I mean, he's only

1919
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 5: twelve and a half game from everyone else. That's their

1920
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 5: other sources that they didn't This is where I think

1921
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 5: they could hit even bigger numbers than twenty five. Eric

1922
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 5: Armstad's healthy because he's gonna push the pocket and that's

1923
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,799
Speaker 5: gonna lead the sacks by the outside guys. And another

1924
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 5: guy we have not talked about, but I've been impressed

1925
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 5: with what I've seen so far in camp is is

1926
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 5: Mason Smith.

1927
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 4: I love him. He is I love them.

1928
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 3: He is coming out violent and physical and long.

1929
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 4: And held up against the double team the other day

1930
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 4: pretty well.

1931
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, so like, oh now, it's a lot.

1932
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 5: I'm not putting a number on what he'll do, because

1933
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 5: that's a lot for a rookie. But I do think

1934
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 5: he's going to be disruptive in the middle and can

1935
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 5: add push and the way the rush lurks. If you

1936
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 5: can push the middle, makes it a lot easier for

1937
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 5: those guys on the outside to get home.

1938
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 6: Tony, he was a giant recruit, was really on the

1939
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 6: verge of stardom and tore up that knee. Came back

1940
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 6: last year, and the early tape when I watched it

1941
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 6: wasn't very good. But by the end of the season

1942
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 6: he started to look like himself again. I think that

1943
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 6: kid has all the ability to be a star inside player.

1944
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 4: I really do. He's just got the size.

1945
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 3: He's violent.

1946
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 5: He's violent, Yes, he's strong, physical, which brings me to.

1947
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 4: This part of that love it. Why was ninety five

1948
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 4: in the game late in the fourth quarter?

1949
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: Is Roy Robertson Harris.

1950
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 5: We talked to Jeff and I were looking at each other.

1951
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 5: I've heard, so what I'm about to say is my speculation.

1952
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 5: I've heard nothing from anybody, but being around this league

1953
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 5: a long time. When your former starting three technique, who

1954
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 5: I believe they re signed redid his deal in the offseason,

1955
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 5: so that tells you, yeah, they believe he's a foundational piece,

1956
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 5: at least for this year.

1957
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 3: When he is playing late.

1958
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 5: In the third, maybe into the fourth of I'm not

1959
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 5: mistaken in.

1960
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: Okay, eighteen snaps in the game totally.

1961
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 5: So when he's playing into the second half, into the

1962
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 5: fourth quarter in the first preseason game, my little Spidey

1963
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 5: senses go off and like something's going on here. That

1964
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 5: means that the front office and the coaching staff or

1965
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 5: some combination, either one of them or both are not

1966
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Speaker 5: happy with the camp that he's having so far. And

1967
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Speaker 5: to me, that's lighting a little fire and saying, hey,

1968
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 5: we need to see more because there's no guarantees in

1969
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Speaker 5: this on this rock.

1970
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Speaker 6: What can you do with him though, because if you

1971
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 6: cut him, you take a giant captit on that.

1972
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Pete, but I was.

1973
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Speaker 5: I was shocked to see him in the game, and

1974
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 5: like I was shocked to see him in the second half,

1975
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Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, like in the fourth quarter,

1976
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 5: there's Roy Robinson Harris are starting defensive end and that

1977
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 5: will be a three technique this year.

1978
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Speaker 1: I'm curious how he practices this week against the Bucks.

1979
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Speaker 5: I'm really off that I'm curious about the whole dang thing,

1980
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Speaker 5: because that caught me by surprise.

1981
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 3: I've not heard anything.

1982
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 6: There must be other guys that they really like to

1983
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 6: in there like that, Like you mentioned Smith, but ninety

1984
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 6: did some good things a little bit too.

1985
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Speaker 3: What's his name, Pete.

1986
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that.

1987
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Speaker 1: No, say o too, Maywoe.

1988
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Speaker 5: Say that again, say come on, let's go, let's get

1989
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 5: let's get.

1990
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Speaker 1: O to Maywoe.

1991
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Speaker 4: But he did.

1992
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Speaker 3: Ote Maywell. Yeah, I got that one. I want to

1993
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Speaker 3: see you guys, Butcher.

1994
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Speaker 6: In Hey, Tony, what about Marshalls? He did some decent

1995
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 6: things too. Was three ninety three?

1996
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 5: Is Tyler Lacy Marshall's ninety six ninety six?

1997
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: He did a couple of good things too.

1998
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, late, listen my comment like, I was just shocked

1999
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: to see Roy in that late and so, and I

2000
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 3: don't know anything. Maybe it's nothing, Maybe that that was

2001
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 3: the plan all along. Maybe he knew about it.

2002
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 5: I just know history, looking back on history and teams

2003
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 5: that are part of When all of a sudden you

2004
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 5: see a veteran guy that was a starter and you

2005
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 5: expected to be a starter or y for a starting

2006
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 5: job and playing the fourth quarter of the first preseason game.

2007
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Speaker 3: You're like, huh, that's interesting. Let's come back in a moment.

2008
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Speaker 3: We'll take a look at joint practices next week. And

2009
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 3: we haven't been touched on the big fan topic of

2010
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 3: the offseason. A lot one of them the play calling.

2011
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 5: You want to hit that next, because I got some

2012
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 5: very strong comments about that.

2013
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Speaker 1: I do as well. We'll come back in a moment.

2014
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Speaker 3: This is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. Yeah,

2015
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 3: you're right.

2016
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 8: You get to pick the situations, the scenarios.

2017
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Speaker 4: It's very controlled. There's no live tackling or anything like that.

2018
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 8: It's you know, but they're their physical practices, but you

2019
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 8: can get you can get quite a bit out of them.

2020
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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson earlier today discussing the joint practices ahead this

2021
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,360
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2022
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2027
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Speaker 3: A big off season topic outside of this building has

2028
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:02,919
Speaker 3: been Jaguars off offensive play calling and who will actually

2029
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 3: do it. Press Taylor was on the field Saturday night

2030
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 3: calling plays. Doug Peterson said earlier in training camps. I

2031
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 3: guess he will call the plays in the preseason. They

2032
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 3: haven't made a determination in the regular season. I think

2033
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 3: it's the most overblown topic in the last decade. Two

2034
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 3: years ago. Press Taylor is a genius in the second

2035
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 3: half of the season, calling plays in the comebacks in December.

2036
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 3: Nobody knew he was doing it last year. He can't

2037
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 3: coach football anymore, apparently, How did that change all of

2038
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 3: a sudden and he should be calling the place Tony.

2039
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's up to Doug. I mean, that's my opinion.

2040
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 5: Here's my opinion. I think Doug is a very good

2041
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 5: coach and a heck of a play caller. I think

2042
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 5: Press Taylor is a very good coach and a heck

2043
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 5: of a play caller, So I don't think he can

2044
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 5: go wrong with either one. They decided to decide what

2045
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 5: you know, ultimate's Doug's called what he thinks best for

2046
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 5: the organization and gives the best chance to win. But

2047
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, I tend to agree with

2048
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 5: you JP. I mean, it's amazing, like everyone was jumping

2049
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 5: up and down for joy when we're coming back and

2050
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 5: scoring points and doing all the things we did the

2051
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,480
Speaker 5: second half of that season.

2052
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 3: And nobody knew he was doing and no one knew

2053
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 3: he was doing it.

2054
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 5: I still don't understand how that got leaked, or why

2055
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 5: it got leaked, or for any reason that all of

2056
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 5: a sudden there was some big major change going on

2057
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 5: last year right before the Colts game, I think.

2058
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing.

2059
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Speaker 5: The way play calling goes in the NFL, for the

2060
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 5: most part, it's mostly decided during the week as a

2061
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 5: staff what you like, what are your top plays in

2062
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 5: this situation? First, second down, third down, goal line, short yardage,

2063
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 5: third and long, so on and so forth. You put

2064
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 5: all this together as a staff, then you work with

2065
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 5: your quarterback. You take that to your quarterback and say, hey, Trevor.

2066
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 4: What do you like?

2067
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 5: What are you comfortable with? He goes through it. Then

2068
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 5: you rank them.

2069
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 3: You get back to the staff together and say, okay,

2070
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,839
Speaker 3: here's our first fifteen plays.

2071
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 5: That's what you're gonna call here's our first top three,

2072
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 5: third and seven plus. Here's our first you know, top

2073
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 5: three or five, you know, four to seven or three

2074
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 5: to seven. And here's our top you know, five short

2075
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 5: yard and here's our goal line, here's our red zone.

2076
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 3: It's all laid out.

2077
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Speaker 4: And yeah, but there's a rhythm to it.

2078
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 3: I'm not saying there's not a rhythm.

2079
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 5: But Pete, you're calling it off the call sheet that

2080
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 5: you guys have all agreed upon, and the start and

2081
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 5: the start of the game is all scripted.

2082
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Speaker 6: But there are guys that are great play callers and

2083
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 6: guys who aren't great play callers.

2084
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what the script says.

2085
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine, Okay, But I'm just saying I want

2086
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 5: to make sure everyone understands how this is put together

2087
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 5: as mechanically during the week, like every team does that, Pete, correct.

2088
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 4: I mean, here, see this thing here, this is a highlighter.

2089
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 6: They should x off the section that says bubble screen,

2090
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 6: bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen,

2091
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 6: third down, bubble screen, four down, bubble screen.

2092
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you can get in and be silly and do

2093
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 3: these individual things.

2094
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 4: I'm just being serious.

2095
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 6: I think they part of the problem last year is

2096
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 6: that they were handcuffed and whoever was called so let.

2097
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 5: Me let me get to that, because here's their thing.

2098
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 5: And I said this on Monday morning. I guess was

2099
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 5: that last week or maybe I don't know when I

2100
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 5: said it, but anyways, the it's really hard to call

2101
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 5: plays when you can't get third and one. It's really

2102
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,560
Speaker 5: hard when you can't run through the between the tackles

2103
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 5: consistently because you can't move anyone an inch.

2104
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 3: It's hard when.

2105
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 5: Really your only plays are picking polls and you're trying

2106
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 5: to move and try to create leverage points.

2107
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 3: To get outside. It's hard. It's hard to call plays in.

2108
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 5: The red zone tight red zone, especially where all the

2109
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 5: passing lanes are really tight, when you can't run it.

2110
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 3: So like number, hard to.

2111
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 4: Call plays when your quarterbacks sped up.

2112
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 6: It's hard to call plays when your receivers aren't big

2113
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 6: play threats down the field, which is why they went

2114
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 6: out and got two of them.

2115
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 5: And by the way, the other way you look at

2116
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 5: it is I'm with what you said, JP.

2117
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 3: I don't think Press Taylor forgot how to call plays. Yeah,

2118
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 3: less than a minute. By the way, and so I

2119
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 3: key understood like he was.

2120
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 5: Everyone loved him, and they didn't have a great year offensively,

2121
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 5: And I think it's a mistake to point the finger

2122
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 5: at one guy.

2123
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 3: That's not how it works.

2124
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 5: Doug is a part of the process, the whole coaches,

2125
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 5: that's part of the process. Trevor Lawrence is part of

2126
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 5: the process. And whoever they have calling players, whether it's

2127
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 5: Doug or Press, I don't care.

2128
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 3: I think both do it. We'll do a great job.

2129
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: Great first show, Pete. We'll talk to you again next week.

2130
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 4: Got it, Pete.

2131
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Speaker 3: Prisco, CBS Sports, Tony Bisselli Hall of Famer, I'm J P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver, David chod, Nick Cortes,

2133
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Speaker 3: our entire crew, and welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It is Jaguars Happy Hour.