WEBVTT - The Last House and Netflix’s Apocalypse Obsession | SVU 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:10.719 A family finds themselves trapped inside their house four years. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.160 It's The Last House with Grete Lee and Wagner Mora 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.520 and it's currently streaming on Netflix. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.160 I'm Jordan Hoffman and I'm At Singer. With more movies, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.759 more series, more stuff going straight to streaming than ever before, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.080 it felt like the right time for a podcast that 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.320 keeps track of it all, and that podcast is Film 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.559 Spotting sb You. This week, we've got a review of 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:43.080 The Last House, plus some related streaming recommendations. This week's 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.320 new to vod and streaming titles, and we're gonna play 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:47.159 a game. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.600 This is gonna be a good game. I'm excited for 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.400 this one because I created it this week. So everybody, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:53.600 everybody strap in. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:59.040 I'm buckling up my metaphorical seat belt, and so should you. Listener. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:08.160 It's all coming up on Film Spotting SVU. Welcome to 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:12.119 Film Spotting SVU. I'm Matt Singer. And later in the show, 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:17.840 we're gonna run down some Last House inspired streaming recommendations. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.000 And I'm very curious to see what Jordan is gonna 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.200 recommend based on the Last House. Could it be another 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.440 movie about a family in peril? Could it be a 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:35.640 horror film set entirely in one location, A movie about houses. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.920 The Last House on the Left the sequel to this one. Yeah, 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.840 I think the Last House on the Right. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.039 What happens in that one. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.600 It's funny that this movie is called the Last House 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.280 because this was not the original title of now movie, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.080 the Last House. It was, in fact the final shot 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:01.480 before the movie starts, like during the credits, you see 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.400 just their mailbox and it's like the number of the house, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.600 ye on the street they're on. It's like one, one three, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.680 one five or something. That was the name of the 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.680 working title of the film. Was no terrible title. And 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.680 then then it's like, what do we call it? And 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.360 I said, we'll call it the Last House, but I 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.359 it's like, I don't know. The Last House and the 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.640 Left is a pretty famous movie, so it's like taking 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.240 a famous title and just calling it half. It's like 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.720 calling it Raiders Are the Lost, you know, like it's 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.760 not that famous. But it's like taking a movie title 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.400 that already exists and just using most of it. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.360 Yes, especially we're in the same genre. It would have 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:36.840 been funny if they were like, what if we did 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.640 the Last House on the Right, What if we really 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.440 did it? Yeah, just where you go? No, is there 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.320 another title like that? I just thought it sounded. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:49.120 Good, So yeah, that's gonna be the Rex Egg. But 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.639 before we get to that, first up is the Last House. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:55.320 What the hell is going on? 0:02:55.440 --> 0:03:00.160 I don't know, but we are safe. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:02.640 We are in our home. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:13.720 It's not just us. Here's the premise of Netflix's most 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.840 watched movie this week, The Last House. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.600 Do we know how many people watched it? Or we 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.399 just know they just listed in the top ten. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.399 I don't remember the I don't know what the numbers 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.720 on the Netflix website indicate anymore. I forget they go 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.120 through different metrics, but it is if you open up 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.840 Netflix and you go to your homepage. It is, at 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:34.840 least as we're recording this, it's also like, you know, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.800 most watched movies today, it's the number one movie. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:38.600 It's number one. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:43.320 It is number one. And here is the plot? Give 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:47.680 me the plot? Want I almost want to hear, like 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.960 I feel like there should be rain and thunder. I 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.600 want to go call audio drama here. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.040 Producer Sam is going to play, but we may get 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.800 a takedown. But the intro to the doors riders on 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.160 the storm. While you're talking just a little bit of 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.120 and the rain and the thunder. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:10.040 To the Last House. They're born into this world. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.040 Anyway, all right, that is the coolest song The Door 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:15.200 has ever made. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:15.560 Without question. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.200 This is the Storm is so there's a number one, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.760 and the number two is so far below it. Rise 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.560 in the Storm is so far and away their most 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.960 excellent song, with no question. It is a little long, though, 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.120 because it's so great. Who wants it to end? Almost 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.680 like this intro to the Last House, Matt, tell me 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:34.640 what you have to say about it. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.560 I was going to tell you the premise. People know 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.039 the premise. They're stuck in the house. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.000 Give me what you wrote. You wrote something brilliant. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.120 I want to hear it, all right. Yeah, On an 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.479 ordinary day, it starts raining and then it just doesn't stop, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:52.080 and everyone inside their homes suddenly finds they cannot get out. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.279 Every door is locked, every window is shut, and any 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.400 attempt to break through the walls or the floors, well 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:04.760 they instantly reseal. I think because magic water fills the holes. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.240 Magical rain, you'd say it's magic rain. Okay, magic rain 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.800 fills the holes. Also, there are weird love crafty and 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.920 monsters that are somehow involved. Now from the deep. They're 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.680 from the sea. Okay, is that a spoiler? I guess 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.800 spoiler alert. These love crafty and monsters are from the 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.279 deep and the sea. Now. I do not know how 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:30.799 monsters can create and control perfectly targeted, impenetrable force fields. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.080 Nor do I know how they do it with water that, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.800 according to Jordan, is magic rain, but otherwise behaves like 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.359 ordinary water, at least as far as we can see. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.520 Nor do I know why if these monsters can do 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.440 these things, they don't just use them to kill people, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.600 kill everyone, take over the world instantly. And I don't 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.719 know these things because the movie does not appear to 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:56.000 know these things either. But nevertheless, in the very early scenes, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.320 in its early mundane stages, the Last House capture a 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.000 very familiar nightmare for anyone who endured lockdowns during COVID, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.280 especially those of us who were parents of young kids 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.520 at the time. And we're desperately trying to maintain a 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.680 sense of normalcy and humanity for our children in a 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.000 world that had suddenly shrunked to the size of a 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.080 box that, you know, if we were lucky, was maybe 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.520 a thousand square feet. The family in this case is 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.599 led by a Minie mcguiver played by Wagner Maha. He 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.320 can make anything with whatever crap he finds lying around 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.640 in his garage. His wife played by Greta Lee. She's 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.760 an incredibly good green thumb, and together they turned their 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.279 home bound prison into an engineering and botanical. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:45.040 Marvel, a lush and verdant place y where she's growing 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:50.400 broccoli and he's catching squirrels by throwing a vacuum cleaner 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.440 thing a jig out the chimney with a and he's 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:55.719 fishing for squirrels. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.640 And I could not, for the life of me figure 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.680 out how he got it up the chimney every time. 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:03.360 I just don't understand he threw you know, he threw 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.279 up he had a pulley of some See this is why, Yeah, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:08.760 I wouldn't do well in. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.560 Your family would starve and whereas the neighbors would be 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.200 eating squirrel all day and and you'd be stuck. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:19.960 So yes, this family, thanks to the squirrels and rodents 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.640 and the vegetables they grow in their floorboards, they have 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.280 they have more of a bounty of food to eat 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.160 than is available at my local little crummy Brooklyn grocery store. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:40.480 Now better than the seatown. That's right, ideal, ideal food basket. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.240 That's what I do myself. That's what it's called. That 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.080 used to be a seatown it is now that's what 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.440 it's called. Seatown. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.239 For those who are listening, seatown is New York City's 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.920 lowest of all supermarkets. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.080 We're not going to get a seatown sponsorship, but let's 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.280 call it what it is now. For most of us, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:03.480 what I've just would be a horror story, but for Netflix, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:09.160 it's a dream scenario. Just imagine it. Millions of customers 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.560 trapped in their homes with nothing to do but watch 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.680 and watch and watch. But Jordan, here's my question for you, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.640 after that very long introduction, Yes, in a world where 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.160 there is Netflix and so many other streaming services and hundreds, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.000 if not thousands of things to watch every minute of 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.080 the day, not just the two DVDs that this family 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.000 in the Last House has, which are Annie and Air 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.959 Force one, which is used to great effect. It is 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.680 should these people who have more than two options watch 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:39.679 the Last House? 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.199 That's a good question I am going to say at 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.840 the end of the day, Yeah, sure, I'm not. It's 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.160 not like in like you must like oh my God, 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.240 Stop Everything, Race Home, Turn On the Last House. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:54.679 It's not an A. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:59.079 Plus, but I found it enjoyable. I think, first of all, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.840 the lead performance are quite good, especially Wagner Morea. I 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.640 like the look of the house, especially after the time 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.360 delay when it becomes this lush, verdant place. There's a 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.840 lot of interesting stuff done with production design. This two kids, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.880 and the daughter is like an illustrator and an artist, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.839 so she makes the house look cool. It's like a 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.320 it's like a it looks like when you go to 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.800 like a special event and they have an activation space 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:28.720 for Instagram. It looks like one of those. And yeah, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.480 and it's also like, you know, what would you do? 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.320 It's on it's like the pre the movie just starts. Also, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.520 it's like it's minute three and the premise is here. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.120 You don't have to wait to see the shark on 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.840 this one. It's in there. And you do a little 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.560 bit of like, well, how what would I do? Like 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.400 if this Kakamami scenario were to happen, how would I react? 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.840 And you kind of think it through, but you know, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.880 kind of as you were joking, the movie doesn't really 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.120 know the answers to why, Yes, it does not have 0:09:55.200 --> 0:10:00.079 a very satisfactory conclusion. Nothing is explained other than, like, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.600 you know, weird shit happens. I mean, you actually said 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.520 in your intro that it was the sea monsters who 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.000 was creating the magic rain. I don't even know if 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.600 that's true. It can just be who was creating it 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.040 then well, we don't know, but it could have just 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.920 been that magic rain was happening and there was so 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.280 much rain. The movie set outside of Seattle, where it 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.760 rains a lot anyhow, so if it's raining a lot 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.959 for Seattle, just to imagine how much rain it really is. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.200 So the preface is that it's just raining and raining 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.520 and raining so much. So it could be interpreted that 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.560 this crazy magic rain that's happening for reasons will never know, 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.800 liberated the sea creatures and they just came out from 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.079 the deep and then they started attacking people. I mean, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.680 we don't know what's going on. There's no the cause 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.880 of effect is left to the to the imagination. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:45.880 Yeah. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.600 Yeah, so I do think that there's a certain and 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.840 I don't want to diss the writer of this film, 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.960 but there's a certain there's really no other way to 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:55.880 use it, to say it than what I'm gonna say 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.040 a certain laziness to this script of like, I don't 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.760 have the mental force to come up with an answer 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.760 for why this shit's going down, So I'm not going 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.160 to I'm just going to say, we don't know, like 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.200 just imagine. And once you take that route, once you 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.720 make that decision, you can still have fun with the movie. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.360 Like there are some movies with wacky premises that by 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.720 the end you're like, oh, it all clicks together. You 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.360 know it makes sense now, I get it. This is 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.120 not that film. But you know what else is not 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:24.960 like that film? Life? 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:25.480 Man? 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.600 WHOA Life? Is like that? 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.760 Holy shit? Yeah? 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.720 And I think though, when you know when COVID was happening, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.640 which is clearly the inspiration for this film, although it's 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.480 already been five plus years. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.040 That you know, that was like how did we get here? 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.079 Like I remember in the early days when it was 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.480 April twenty twenty, I'm like, what this is my life now? 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.960 I can't leave the house. I leave the house only 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.880 to throw out the garbage and I race in and 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.440 race out in twenty five seconds, covering my face. It's crazy, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.520 But how did we get here? So that's kind of 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.360 what this movie does bring you back to So inconclusion, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:02.920 is it worth watching, Yes. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.599 But manage your expectations. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.640 It is not. It is not a masteries. But I 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.520 think it's well put together. I think the action sequences 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.920 are good, the ending is good. I mean, Luis le Terier, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.600 I think is a decent director. I've made some good, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.640 good stuff in the past, and he's also made some 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.240 fine stuff, and this is this is one of his 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:19.800 better ones. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.520 I would say, I don't know if I can join 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.560 you on one of one of his better ones. I 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.800 mean I I did like the first couple of scenes 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.000 of the movie. I think all the strongest stuff is 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.480 the stuff that I mean, if it wasn't inspired by 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.160 being locked down during COVID, I cannot imagine what else 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.320 could have inspired, because that's what it feels like, and 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.760 that's what those scenes really strongly evoke. And I think 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.000 the best parts of the movies is the are the 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.360 ones that feel like you can imagine the screenwriter going, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.040 you know, like, how could I turn this very strange, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.920 surreal scenario and how can I kind of exploit the 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.600 anxiety and the tension and the pressure sure and turn 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.559 it into a horror movie? And this is and this 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.000 is what came out of it. I guess for me, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.560 I think your point is well taken, Jordan, about you 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:15.560 don't need to explain the premise of your mysterious horror movie. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.520 You know, like, there are plenty of examples we could 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.880 probably think of where the characters don't even fully you know, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.320 like a movie like Cloverfield. It's not like there's people 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:28.400 giving long monologues explaining what's happening and what this monster. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.240 You know, there can be there can be a very 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.360 interesting film to be made in a film told from 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.040 the perspective of people, just ordinary people caught in the 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.440 middle of a nightmare who don't understand what's happening. Man, Well, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:41.760 I'll give you. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.040 I'm gonna give you a great example of this conundrum. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.760 It's probably the biggest, the biggest movie in this type, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.080 the biggest title in this type of movie at all. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.680 It's Night of Living Dead, and Night of the Living 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.440 Dead is for ninety five percent of the movie you 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.240 have no idea why the crazy stuff is going on. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.000 And then at the end there's an explanation that you 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.960 kind of hear over a radio about something to do 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:07.240 with satellite or something. And then for thirty years. George 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:11.760 Romero did all he could to retcon that out because 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:16.240 he realized that the explanation detracted from the strangeness of 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.280 the movie. That's right, and that little scientific answer that 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.080 you get at the end of the first one was 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.080 never mentioned again, and it was you know, he swept 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.360 it under the rug. So yeah, I mean, none of 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.080 the Living Dead was just like you know, it was 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.800 a living nightmare, and this strange thing was happening. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.040 So that that is kind. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.840 Of what I could imagine if they were in meetings 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.880 trying to crack this project open, somebody might have said, hey, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.880 nobody ever did any explanations in Romero's world. That's what 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.320 we've got here. But I don't know that this is 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.840 as much of a classic or revolutionary film. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.440 As a living quite I mean, and I want to say, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.720 I do not need for those two examples we just 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.760 mentioned and many more, I don't need things explained to me, 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.640 you know, Like mystery is a good thing, especially in 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.040 a movie like this, But I think the problem here 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.440 is that it almost explains or at least shows too much, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.280 and and the things that it shows us are just 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.520 they're just so strange and vague. And the threat is 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.480 both like limitless and unclear. There's no rules, there's no 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.800 sense of like what can or cannot happen. There's as 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.160 we said, there's like magic rain, what can But they 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.920 can still drink the water that they have, and they're drafted. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.360 They can't leave. But for years, like they still have gas, 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.800 they still have plumbing, they still have electricity. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.680 Right, and then they don't, well, they don't for a while. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.120 After a while, that all both. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.000 Eventually, but they're they're watching a lot of Air Force 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.240 one in that garage for a long time. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.880 And then that when they do have to escape, they 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.240 they just dig a hole in the bathroom. Like I 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.720 never I didn't quite get that, like how that was allowed. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.120 But you know, the stuff that works on a sort 0:15:59.960 --> 0:16:04.000 of a nightmarish level, for example, communicating with the neighbors 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:05.280 via chalkboard. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.480 Those scenes, those those scenes work. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.320 And there's like one there's like a kindly old man 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.400 across the street who still puts on a tie and 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.400 he's like, we're running out of medicine here. I mean, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.000 that's kind of sad. And then there's the dog in there. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.440 The dog's on medicine, and. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.400 I guess I would have loved if the whole movie 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.440 was that sort of simple and stripped down and basic, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.800 and if you're gonna do something this claustrophobic and based 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.280 in something we can all relate to, I guess I 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.960 just it seemed like that was the the the idea, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.720 But then they didn't have like the courage of their 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.400 convictions to be like, well, what if the movie was 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.840 just people trapped in their house for ninety. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.600 Mine people will get I think most audiences would not 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.680 want that because it does build to a big ending 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.680 where there's sea monsters attacking them and they're in the 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:52.960 house and the house floods, And. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.560 I have to believe that the filmmakers or Netflix are 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.560 both felt agreed with you, and they're like, well, we 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:01.680 can't just have it be people in COVID in metaphorical 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.440 COVID lockdown. How can we make it exciting? And eventually 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:10.000 the answer was wacky, crazy sea monsters chasing them through 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.040 a like through a like a literally like they're almost 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.399 drowning in their own home. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.160 Yes, for some reason, it all takes. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.600 Sense metaphorically and nightmarishly when you describe the things happening, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.359 it all is like, yes, it sounds like a dream. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.840 It sounds like a nightmare. But then when you try 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.600 to you try to parse any of it, you're just like, wait, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.399 what what is happening now? Well, I kind of like 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:31.959 the monsters. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.399 I thought they look cool and the action scenes at 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.520 the end, I could follow the action. They're the attic first, 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.560 they have a gun of some sort that got to 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.320 swim into the basement. I give it points for that. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.880 A lot of complex, hectic action in some of these 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.040 lower budget movies tend to get a little messy, so 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.399 I give that one thumbs up. I don't know, I mean, no, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.360 the movie is not a musty of the year, but 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.040 but for since your Home anyhow, watching on Netflix, it's 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.280 it's not bad for Netflix, it really isn't. I got 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.160 to give a thumbs up from there. I also liked 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.359 it when they were looking because their cable internet is 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.359 out and they can't stream anything. That's why they only 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.680 have they find an old box with the only two 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.640 remaining DVDs, which are Annie and Air Force one, which 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.040 is funny, it's like alphabetical. They found the two in 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.440 the a's They also there was an old red Netflix envelope. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.600 I don't know if you caught that and he picks 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.600 it up, but he's like and he throws it away. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:33.240 Yes, very cute, very cute. I guess here's my other 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:38.600 big complaint is that again, it has a I think 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.800 has a very smart premise, or at least a good 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.720 starting point for a movie turn what we all understand 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.080 and remember about COVID into a supernatural horror movie. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:48.480 Great. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.919 I am very much on board with that. Sounds like 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.679 a I would green that green light that idea. I 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.399 get it. I see why someone would make it. And 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.720 based on the fact that people are watching it on Netflix, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:04.399 I mean that was a was a smart choice. I okay, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.800 you need, you need something to happen. Okay, so we 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.679 got these crazy lovecrafty and monsters. But I just at 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.160 a certain point, I was like, we've spent a lot 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.960 of time with these people, these characters, this family, and 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.320 I really don't know much about any of them except 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.159 for Wagner Mora. I really wished that there was a 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.240 little bit more about them and we felt a little 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.680 more like their relationships and some tension coming out of 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.240 their relationships than that. There isn't a lot, you know, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.800 like we understand a little about Wagner Mora's character. He's 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.200 an engineer. He's lost his job. He has this compulsion, 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.320 he feels the need to as we as we all 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.679 would like to protect his family and to use the 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.200 skills he has and all of these sorts of things. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.280 But the other three characters in that house, yeah, I 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.920 mean the dog is almost more well defined. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.679 Than Yeah, the kids. The kids are not. I mean 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.679 they're good. They're like mappity kids at first, and they're cute, 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.359 but and like especially the little she's very cute, but like, yeah, 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.959 the sun is just like extra kid, you know, like 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.520 he just he's just there. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.320 What defines these people? And a movie like this you 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.040 could potentially you have got nothing but time, and I 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.760 guess Lovecraft monsters to dig into this family and make 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.159 them feel like a real family. 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.240 I do like at the beginning they have like the 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.679 Checkof's fish cutting scene, like yeah, I'm gonna teach you 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.920 how to gut a fish, Like, oh gee, I wonder 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:25.920 if this is gonna come back? 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.159 Yeah, this will never come up again on the on 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:29.479 the show. It's pretty funny. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.480