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Speaker 3: Police believe this is the serial arsonist who is laid

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Speaker 3: as many as thirty cars or more on fire in

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Speaker 1: This video is from this morning.

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Speaker 3: A man pours an accelerant on the hood of a

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Speaker 1: He was arrested shortly afterwards. The truck belongs to Rich Poquette.

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Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken. I really really like this truck. It's been

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Speaker 3: He just got home after a three week stay in

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Speaker 3: driving the truck they bought just a few months ago.

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Speaker 1: My wife came in and said the truckles on fire,

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Speaker 4: When I saw the cops, I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: So it was just so random.

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Speaker 2: Mean, you know, everyone says it's never going to happen

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Speaker 3: It turns out this is the serial arsonist. The arrest

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Speaker 3: This woman lost two cars this month, one on May first,

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Speaker 1: The front end of it was completely melted because of

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Speaker 3: The LAPED has been looking for this guy for weeks now,

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Speaker 1: I was shocked in today to hear that I was

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Speaker 2: The suspects identified as guadaloupe rescindas as the person that

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Speaker 2: I guess that makes it dangerous, John, if you're gonna,

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Speaker 1: She's a council president, Lydia. How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm good. How are you guys today?

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Speaker 1: This is just fine. This is like terrorism what this

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and our community is not worry the fear yet

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Speaker 2: No, no, wait, this guy's allegedly throwing bottles with like

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Speaker 1: Right? How could they not notice that? What kind of

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Speaker 2: Because it wasn't there ring doorbell video two of some

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Speaker 1: Were people calling in all these fires? I mean there's

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Speaker 5: Calling them into nine one one, who was turning them

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Speaker 5: them as arson. So each incident, that person basically was

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Speaker 5: And as you heard the story in the news, each

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Speaker 5: a tragic story. We have a guy who lost his

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Speaker 5: We have another one whose father has just spent several

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Speaker 1: Doesn't don't the police show up when these fires happen.

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Speaker 5: No, We've been told by the police that unless there

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is all this is on purpose, this

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Speaker 5: I'm very concerned, and it is especially troublesome that our

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Speaker 5: to look out for each other. So if you see

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Speaker 1: Safety, Monica Rodriguez, Monica Riguez as your council person.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, I can't think that they will do something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Lydia, you're telling us that they basically

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Speaker 2: playing this down so much from LAPD, the fire department

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Speaker 1: Why would they to improve the statistics? The El Segunda

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Speaker 1: Lyne Times today had one of their crime is down

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Speaker 2: Just to see the rest of the headline with basically

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Speaker 1: You see that it was exactly okay. So that's today's propaganda.

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Speaker 1: And all I had to do is come to the

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Speaker 1: there's twenty five to fifty car fires that we're rinning

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Speaker 2: I have, now Lydia the other part of this, you're concerned,

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Speaker 1: What reasons do you have for that?

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Speaker 5: We do just from the things that we've heard over

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Speaker 1: This is what happens. You got a whole spiral downward.

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Speaker 1: People are allowed to live and sleep inside trailers and

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Speaker 1: then here comes an arsonist guy to set them on

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Speaker 5: This is a high fire danger area, especially this area,

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Speaker 5: that should be brought to attention. But my concern is

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's Lydia Grant.

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Speaker 2: She's the president of the Sunland Tahunga neighborhood council with

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Speaker 2: concerns over a serial arsonist, which they appear to have

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Speaker 2: finally caught. But he's been doing this for months. Looks

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Speaker 2: like he rides buying a bicycle, places a bottle I guess,

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Speaker 2: Some of them are v's, some of them trucks, trucks

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe John gascollone will go with a

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Speaker 2: diversion program. Yeah, this guy can safely light fires.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a mental health diversion program, that's right, and he

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Speaker 1: could get over his there's a word for when you

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Speaker 1: when you when you're a fire fanatic. I forgot what

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Speaker 1: it's called. Yeah, I forget. I was about to say arsonists,

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Speaker 1: but no, you're right, yeah, oh, pyromaniac. A pyromaniac, that's rights.

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Speaker 1: A piral mediac treatment center. Sure, yeah, maybe you can

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Speaker 1: get a job at a crematorium or somewhere where fires

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Speaker 1: No, you can't raise their rates because Ricardi lars socialist.

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Speaker 1: It's because the climate change it's so great that state

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Speaker 1: So do you just stop doing business? Then? What do

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Speaker 1: So everybody's leaving. There was a story this week three

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well that's exactly how we do business in

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares. So the insurance Yeah, the dairy farmers are out,

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Speaker 1: You notice nobody's begging Ricardo Lara to run their insurance company. No,

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to focus on John coblt. The price

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Speaker 1: That's what the cattle eat, alfalfa and Hey, the price

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Speaker 1: of steak at the grocery store is unbelievable. Have Finally,

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Speaker 1: after years, I switched to a cheaper cut because I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't do it. I just couldn't pay the price

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Speaker 1: that they were asking for at my local store.

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Speaker 2: One rancher says he's only making about twenty dollars profit

444
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Speaker 2: per head of cattle earlier this year. The prices of

445
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Speaker 2: rising is now making about eighty dollars ahead.

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Speaker 1: And the price of the price of a cheeseburger. If

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Speaker 1: I go to just an ordinary coffee shop right down

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Speaker 1: the road here for lunch, a cheeseburger, French fries, and

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Speaker 1: a coke, that's it. It is twenty dollars and seventy

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Speaker 1: nine cents before the tip. Yeah had a tip, and it's.

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Speaker 7: It's almost insane. A few years ago it was significantly

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Speaker 7: less as well. It's probably five seven dollars less. I

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Speaker 7: can't go to any sit down restaurant, and I'm talking

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Speaker 7: about just a medium restaurant, right, I'm not going, you know,

455
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Speaker 7: to some expensive steakhouse, just a neighborhood joint kind of place,

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Speaker 7: and it's got it's twenty five dollars for lunch.

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Speaker 6: So cut off the fries. You'll save a few bucks.

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Speaker 1: I do sometimes, I mean, but the big cost is

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Speaker 1: is the burger. It's gone way up.

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Speaker 6: Well you know what I'm going to say about that.

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Speaker 1: Don't eat it.

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Speaker 6: Sure, you know you know to find an alternative.

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Speaker 1: Order fava beans tomorrow. Okay, you know what.

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Speaker 6: Your digestice system may love you for it.

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Speaker 1: No, I probably have a heart attack. Spotty, make burger.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you can make a veggie burger with beans, lentils, whatever,

467
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Speaker 9: be more creative.

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Speaker 2: John and I actually had a guy who emailed us.

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Speaker 2: He's with some sort of restaurant association. He was interested

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Speaker 2: Debra Mark in that story where apparently once the dairy

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Speaker 2: cows apparently run their course with the milk and cheese.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's terrible story.

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Speaker 2: They started eating them and finding that they taste like butter.

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Speaker 2: So that may open the market a little bit to

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Speaker 2: the supply end.

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Speaker 1: No, but the old lady.

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Speaker 2: Because as you know, some cows, cattle are raised for

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Speaker 2: beef and some are dairy.

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Speaker 1: The old lady cows are put out the pasture and

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Speaker 1: then they pull them back in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's fair. That's humane.

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Speaker 1: Years getting milked all day, right.

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Speaker 6: And it's nice for them to chill out and be left.

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Speaker 1: Alone, which is nice because if you think if you

485
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Speaker 1: were if you were a cannibal, you would think an

486
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Speaker 1: old person wouldn't taste as good. But it works for

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Speaker 1: it works for steak that the dairy cows tastes good.

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Speaker 6: Respect for our elders.

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Speaker 1: Chop them up and serve them up. Cow. It was

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Speaker 1: a pretty good meal.

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Speaker 6: That is just that's beyond.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what they normally do with them. I guess

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Speaker 2: they just let them go somewhere and yeah, they.

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Speaker 6: Go to sanctuary.

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Speaker 9: They live, but they can die peacefully, not in your stomach.

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Speaker 1: We've had.

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Speaker 2: The big meat producing states be the beef cow is Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: and Texas, and they're having problems with drought. No obviously

499
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Speaker 2: we didn't this past winter, but we're not a big

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Speaker 2: beef producing state.

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Speaker 1: Those are some of the bigger.

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Speaker 2: So feed prices are higher, profitability is lower. It also

503
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Speaker 2: says here that apparently the cost of everything is rising, Medicine,

504
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Speaker 2: vitamins that they feed to their cattle to keep them healthy,

505
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Speaker 2: all going up to the point and where the herds

506
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Speaker 2: are thinning. It's becoming a big problem.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, if you go to one of the

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Speaker 1: better steakhouses. It is shocking what some of the some

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Speaker 1: of the cuts go for, right, So you just stare

510
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Speaker 1: at the number. It's like that can't be. No, it's

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Speaker 1: In and Out holding the line though, because it's always been.

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Speaker 2: Everybody I know that comes to California wants to go

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Speaker 2: to In and Out and they tell me the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a very affordable meal. It still is. I mean

515
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Speaker 1: it's up a little bit over the years, but nothing drastic,

516
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Speaker 1: nothing that has made my head stamp. Right. In fact,

517
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there tomorrow and if you're if you're nice,

518
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Speaker 1: I'll get your French fries.

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Speaker 9: Oh really yeah, okay, so I will. I'll be very

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Speaker 9: nice the rest of the show.

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Speaker 1: She will do anything for In.

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Speaker 6: And Out, not anything what. I don't like them that much.

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Speaker 6: They're okay.

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Speaker 2: And in case you're wondering, some of the other industries

525
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Speaker 2: that produce things that debor Mark helps you don't eat

526
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: don't suffer as much because chicken and pork it doesn't

527
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Speaker 2: have quite the costs that come with it versus the

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Speaker 2: beef cattle. So that's why they're not suffering as much

529
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Speaker 2: in terms of rising prices as it is meat in

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Speaker 2: most stores, and this is affectoring grocery shoppers who go

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Speaker 2: there to get any kind of ground beef. All of

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Speaker 2: these things together. I'm looking at this chart in the

533
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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal of the operating costs. You can see

534
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two significant six hundred and ninety eight dollars

535
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Speaker 2: a cow is the average operating costs, whereas back in

536
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Speaker 2: two thousand it was only like four hundred. So that's

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Speaker 2: a pretty big increase up to nearly seven hundred dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: chicken is America's most consumed protein, but the value of

539
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Speaker 2: the beef market is double that of chicken. That's because

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Speaker 2: it's entire cost at more than thirty dollars according to

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Speaker 2: a business that attracts this, and pork or chicken has

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Speaker 2: not been hit as hard by these rising inflationary prices.

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Speaker 9: Well, I have an idea, ken you meat eaters, why

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Speaker 9: don't you protest and say you're gonna go vegan until

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Speaker 9: the prices go down, and then maybe maybe you'll actually

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Speaker 9: enjoy being vegan and you won't miss meat and the

547
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Speaker 9: problem will be solved.

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Speaker 1: Well, in the real world, people like John Cobalt won't switch.

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Speaker 1: But apparently there are people that are going to switch

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Speaker 1: to the cheaper meats rather than buy a steak. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what I did. I just I'm getting a cheaper

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Speaker 1: cut steak of the grocery shop. But you're still cow.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, some of them rereading gonna eat pork

554
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Speaker 1: and chicken.

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Speaker 6: But I feel bad for the pigs and the chickens.

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Speaker 9: Also in the truck, all these people, all those animals,

557
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Speaker 9: you know, it's just funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and some people are buying more seafood. It says

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00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: here for a ground turkey. Ground turkey's kind of dry. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that reminds me.

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Speaker 1: So we were up at the lake, right, and they

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Speaker 1: stocked the lake with fish, and I used to do

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Speaker 1: this when my guys were small. There was a dad

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Speaker 1: out there and he had a couple of really young

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Speaker 1: sons and they were fishing, maybe for the first time, right,

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Speaker 1: And he's trying to teach him hot to fish. And

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Speaker 1: one of the little kids actually caught a fish and

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Speaker 1: he's standing there on the edge of the lake and

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Speaker 1: the fish is dangling and Dad takes him off the

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Speaker 1: hook and they stand and like pose for a picture,

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Speaker 1: and Dad says, okay, throw them back into the lake.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: throw them back in the lake. Well, the kid is

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Speaker 1: so excited he drops the fish on his head and

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Speaker 1: then kicks it back into the lake.

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Speaker 6: That defeats the whole purpose.

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Speaker 1: It was like he was just one two kicks. That's mean,

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Speaker 1: And I thought.

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Speaker 6: Of you, you have been put in a time out.

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Speaker 1: Do you prefer they ate it? Oh?

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Speaker 9: I prefer they throw it back in in a nice

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Speaker 9: gentle way exactly. Kid was like five, Well, you got

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Speaker 9: to teach the kids not to harm the animals.

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Speaker 1: Well, when we come back, we are going to do

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Speaker 1: a story that's going to shake your Debra Mark from

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Speaker 1: the animal world.

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Speaker 2: This is very, very bizarre. I've never heard of this before.

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Speaker 2: There's one good result though from the story. I know

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Speaker 2: you may find that hard to believe, but when you

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Speaker 2: hear it, you'll find out what that is.

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Speaker 2: to visit an Elsa Gundo Times columnists whenever they make

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Speaker 2: us laugh. That wasn't the intention of this one. Her

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Speaker 2: Climate Grief. Climate Grief and dig is because she's a

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Speaker 2: gardener and apparently that helps her deal with climate grief.

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Speaker 1: And she's a poet. And Jan John did a little

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Speaker 1: digging and found out that she's a poet. Yes, in fact,

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Speaker 1: what's that job I found out she has? She would

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Speaker 1: review poetry. She reviews poetry for NPR. She's she's the

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Speaker 1: on air poetry reviewer for NPRS All Things considered, and

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Speaker 1: she's done this for over a decade. A poetry reviewer.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're up against. So we'll read you some

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Speaker 1: of her. Maybe we should get the piano out. You

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Speaker 1: can for the harp or us, or you could listen

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Speaker 1: to this woman who's consumed with climate grief.

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Speaker 2: Climate grief, that's how she deals with poetry. And she's

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Speaker 2: poetry and gardening. You just think they go together.

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Speaker 1: You decide what you want to listen to. What a

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Speaker 1: toxic mail you are. I think poetry and gardening would

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Speaker 1: do you good. I really do. While you eat fava

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Speaker 1: beans with Debra.

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Speaker 6: Mark, we read poetry together, it's right, and.

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Speaker 1: A bowl of fava beans, and then you go over

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Speaker 1: to your garden. Actually, John, the one thing John did

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Speaker 1: have was a garden. He did talk about that one.

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, I used to do gardening stuff. She

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Speaker 1: did one of those three did happen? No I didn't, Well,

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Speaker 1: yes I did.

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Speaker 4: You did?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did, plan, Yes, he was talking about this.

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Speaker 1: My mother was a huge gardening person.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but vegetables.

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Speaker 1: I think he grew hamburgers on the vine. Well, now

642
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about this story, and there it's bad,

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Speaker 1: Deborah Mark.

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Speaker 2: But there's kind of a good ending that help. There's

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Speaker 2: a little town in upstate New York. And actually they

646
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Speaker 2: sent this for you, Debor Mark. A listener did called

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Speaker 2: Manlius John. It's outside of Syracuse. I'd not heard of it.

648
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Only four thousand people apparently.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: For years there was a swan that swam in the

651
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Speaker 2: town's pond. Her name is Faye, and recently she gave

652
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Speaker 2: birth to baby swans. Who knows what a baby swan

653
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Speaker 2: is called? Anybody, anybody? It's a signet, a signet y

654
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Speaker 2: C ygn e T. She had four signets. Well, uh,

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Speaker 2: Fay was removed from the pond, and here comes the

656
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Speaker 2: worst part.

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Speaker 1: She was eaten.

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Speaker 6: Who ate who ate?

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Speaker 1: A family?

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Speaker 2: Apparently some young people, teenagers came to the pond. Three

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Speaker 2: teenagers have been arrested. They took the swan home and

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Speaker 2: it was it was cooked up.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 9: First of all, that's that's horrible. And then they left

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Speaker 9: the babies without the mom. I mean, people are so cruel.

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Speaker 1: How do you cook swan? I would imagine john like

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Speaker 1: any other poultry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you probably have to tear the feathers off, just

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Speaker 2: get it and bake it in the oven a swan.

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Speaker 9: Really, there's nothing else for these teenagers to eat that.

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Speaker 6: They're just they're mean.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna become like Doc. I would imagine how to

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Speaker 1: cook swan swan cutlets engravy. Oh. There was a couple

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Speaker 1: Fay and swan swan and cherry casserole. H For over a.

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Speaker 2: Decade, Fay and Manny swam about in the village pond

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Speaker 2: each spring they hatched and raised signets. In twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: they were donated by a biologist and self described swan girl.

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Speaker 2: Michael Bean is his name. They noticed, though, that Fay

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Speaker 2: was missing and the signets. But the signets have been recovered,

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Speaker 2: so that's the good news to this story. Two of

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Speaker 2: the baby swans were spotted in a nearby store in

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Speaker 2: a town called Selina, New York.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, were they being sold?

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Speaker 2: They decided yeah, or they decided not to eat the

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Speaker 2: young ones, so they just left them in a store.

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Speaker 2: But apparently Faye was given to a relative to cook.

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Speaker 1: Look at this. They brought it back to the ant's

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Speaker 1: house and the ant prepared the swan. You could hunt

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Speaker 1: swan in six states. Ah, really, I've fat this, This

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Speaker 1: guy wrote a story on this that he a few

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Speaker 1: years ago he hunted and killed a tundraus swan in Utah,

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Speaker 1: and then he hunted and shot black swans in New Zealand. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he hunts them and eats them.

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Speaker 6: I'm not meant for this world.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the animal cruelty is just I'm serious.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to take you to a new low

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Speaker 2: with this next story, Debor Mark. This one comes from

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back ken Where else would it come from but

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Speaker 2: San Francis.

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Speaker 1: I was being nicer to you, right, I didn't tort

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Speaker 1: you at all.

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Speaker 2: If these things happen, I want to present the real world.

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Speaker 2: In the ABC Bay Area, reporter Dion Limb reports on well,

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Speaker 2: we've heard of dogs who accidentally consume you know, the edibles,

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Speaker 2: the marijuana. Sometimes there's opioids. This was one step removed

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Speaker 2: from that.

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Speaker 10: Here's the story if you couldn't tell by these adorable videos.

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Speaker 10: One year old Himalayan sheep dog poodle mixed Pockets is

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Speaker 10: a pooch with a love for the outdoors.

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Speaker 8: I live in the area and we frequently come here.

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Speaker 10: During a trip to Fort Mason Thursday, what Pockets found

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Speaker 10: on the ground was the beginning of a terrifying and

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Speaker 10: eye opening experience for owner Jackie.

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Speaker 8: I noticed she went and was eating something, so I

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Speaker 8: ran over to see what she was eating, and unfortunately

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Speaker 8: it was poop.

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Speaker 10: Nothing necessarily uncommon for dogs. But what happened several hours later.

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Speaker 8: Was probably about eight o'clock, and she was like wobbling,

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Speaker 8: and she was like her tail was down. She was

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Speaker 8: something was definitely wrong with.

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Speaker 10: Her, and documents from emergency care showed Pockets had symptoms

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Speaker 10: from marijuana intoxication and there were opioids in her system.

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Speaker 10: Frightening enough on its own, but something else was alarming.

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Speaker 8: Essentially, the doctor on that night had told me that

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Speaker 8: this was relatively common and she sees it a few

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Speaker 8: times a week.

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Speaker 10: Dog owners we spoke with were understandably shocked at the news.

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Speaker 10: That's horrible, that's that's my worst nightmare, and say it'll

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Speaker 10: be hard to prevent their pets from eating things on

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Speaker 10: the ground.

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Speaker 1: Know how anybody could could prevent this.

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Speaker 10: Luckily, Pockets didn't ingest enough to need Narcan and is

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Speaker 10: back to her old stick chewing playful self. A healthcare

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Speaker 10: professional told me Jackie did everything right and had the

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Speaker 10: dosage been bigger, pockets could have suffered kidney or liver damage.

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Speaker 10: Jackie says she'll keep an even closer watch on her

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Speaker 10: pet from now on and hopes her story will encourage

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Speaker 10: others to do the same.

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Speaker 8: There's so many people with dogs who probably don't know

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Speaker 8: that this is a threat to their dogs. So I

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Speaker 8: wanted to share it just to spread awareness and to

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Speaker 8: make sure people are really careful and can look out

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Speaker 8: for the symptoms of this.

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Speaker 2: So what happened was the dog eight human feces, and

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Speaker 2: the human feces had to traces of drugs in it.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, because it's a drug addict who's taking a

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Speaker 1: dump on the sidewalks, dogs by and gobbles up the

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Speaker 1: guy's poop. Yeah, I did so. In San Francisco, they

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Speaker 1: have to give narcan to the dogs.

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Speaker 2: What would make a dog in chess human waste is

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Speaker 2: the scent or something.

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Speaker 1: They eat everything they do. Now here's the game. In

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Speaker 1: my house. When my cat gets mad because it doesn't

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Speaker 1: like the condition of the litter box, it will take

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Speaker 1: a poop right in the middle of a hallway. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and then the dog comes and eats the cat poop.

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Speaker 1: And then the dog goes off and throws up in

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Speaker 1: another room. And it's weird. That's quite a cycle. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a recycling game that they play. Wow, that's discussed.

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Speaker 1: Your dogs don't eat poop, do they? No?

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Speaker 9: But you know what, I'm just gonna say real quick.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday I got something in the mail. I got a

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Speaker 9: piece of clothing, and when I was opening up the package,

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Speaker 9: you know those little silica gel packets. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 9: Well I saw it fell on the floor, so I

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Speaker 9: thought that I picked it up and threw it away.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I did.

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Speaker 9: But then I turned around and my dog, the one

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Speaker 9: that ate marijuana on the walk, that same dog was

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Speaker 9: looking very guilty in my family room, and I went

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Speaker 9: and I looked at her, and she was eating something.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what it was, but I assumed that

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Speaker 9: it was that gel packet. So I freaked out. And

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Speaker 9: I wasn't even sure exactly what it was. So I

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Speaker 9: called the company, the clothing company, and they said, it's

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Speaker 9: still like a gel, and they said, I think it's

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Speaker 9: non toxic. But of course I googled and yes it is,

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Speaker 9: and I still haven't found it. I'm pretty sure I

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Speaker 9: picked it up, but that's pretty scary.

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Speaker 1: Another one, I knows.

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Speaker 6: No, it was just there was just one.

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Speaker 9: There was just one and I saw it fall and

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Speaker 9: I thought that I picked it up and threw it away.

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Speaker 9: But apparently my dog, I think I think got it.

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Speaker 9: And No, you don't need to call them moist lining.

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Speaker 9: You don't need to send me messages that I'm this

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Speaker 9: terrible pet owner.

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Speaker 6: Well it was I don't even know. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if my dog ate it, but I

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Speaker 6: couldn't find it.

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Speaker 1: Your dog seems to be way too hungry.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know she's crazy.

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