1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Nola and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: But tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury Todd, so lucky. It's Friday, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: August fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody is doing well 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: out there. We look great today. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: We got our stuff. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Jim is in an Jim is in his bunker in 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: an undisclosed location. He's got this shady window covering behind him. 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Right now, Jimmy, Jim, blink twice, Jim, blink twice. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: If you're okay, I'm doing well. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Hold up. Hold, I'm gonna hold up today's newspaper. Oh, 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: they don't make newspapers anymore, they don't. 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love your wig right now. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 5: I love the spiked up too, so I'll think I'm 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 5: going we should go that route. 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I look very youthful. 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: Very cool. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: One time, Jim, Jim Reuben. 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: One time Jim bought new shoes, you know, a few 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: years ago, and he was very proud of him, and 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: he come in, came into the press box. He goes, look, everybody, 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: look at my new youthful shoes. 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: In clear water. 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 3: That was clear water. 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 4: He's like, oh, look, he was strolling. 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: He's had a little strut gontrist box chest out. He's like, 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: look at my new youthful shoes. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: Well, I have to keep up with you guys, because 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: your generation all you wear is sneakers. 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: Sneaker shoes. Yes, it's all about comfort. 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: You know. 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: You can mix it up, you can mix it in. Yeah, 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: you gotta be a little comfortable. 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: You know. I have a little style, James, just a 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: little stock. 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm not wearing wingtips to the ballpark. Let's put it 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 4: to you that way. 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: My style, My style begins and ends with Dockers pleats. 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: That's the question. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: It depends how fat I am. 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Depends on what's going for you this summer. Well, I 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: think we look good today. Phillies have not been so 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: good the past few days. They've lost three in a row. 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: You know that it's really been been the offense. 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: You know, we were I was watching the game last 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: night and they had Harrison Bader got on with leadoff 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: single and Mundo Sosa buns of runner over roup. But 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: I want to ask you that because you were you 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: were kind of surprised that they that Sosa bunted there, 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: and can you explain why that was a surprise to you? 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a huge bunt guy, unless it's 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: a you know, super obvious situation giving up the out. 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 4: Is that kind of what you were thinking there? 53 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I really don't like kind of play 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 5: for the tie when you're on the road. But I 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: think that the strategy behind it for Topper and there 56 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 5: was a reason for it. I mean, he believed that 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 5: his bullpen is much better than their bullpen, and you know, 58 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 5: typically it is, but when you're not swinging the bats 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: all that well, there are times when I sort of 60 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: like to have. 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: Guys just going and swing the bat. 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: I think I would trust Sosa to try to move 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 5: the runner, hit the ball the opposite way, maybe hit 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 5: them on the whole, maybe create something rather than give up, 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 5: give up and out. And then when he went to 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: three to zero with the bun attempt, I thought that 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: he might try to like take a couple, Like he 68 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: went to three to one, he threw one right down 69 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: the middle, and at that three to one situation, like 70 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: either let him hit at that point and maybe drive 71 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: a ball out. 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: Of the ballpark, or allow. 73 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: The hitter to maybe take a pitch because he ended 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 5: up bunning the ball, moving the runner and getting it out, 75 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: or you know, having a productive out and get the sack. 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: But the way the Phillies are swinging the bats, I 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 5: don't know, man, I don't know if like I like 78 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: up outs. I know why he did it right, but 79 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: they're just I just didn't agree with the strategy. I mean, 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: I like a lot of the things that Rob Thompson does, 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: but I didn't agree with that one. 82 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Maybe if they would do more early in games, he 84 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to be playing for one runner. 85 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 5: Oh you aren't kidding, you are no run support at 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: all for Lozardo, who was really fabulous. I mean, stuff 87 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: was really good yesterday. 88 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: So I want to take. 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: They've been outscored seventeen to three the last three games. 90 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: We started the week. We started the week saying how 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: everything was coming together. 92 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: There. 93 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: So let's let's dig a little bit more into the 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: offense with the parks First Pitch. First Pitch is brought 95 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: to us exclusively by our partners at Park Casino, Pennsylvania's 96 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: number one casino. 97 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: Uh, you're right, Jim. 98 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: On Monday Show, we're sitting there talking about they got 99 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: this nice the lead going, the Mets are tanking. You know, 100 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: it's kind of looking up, you know, they're there. They 101 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: have the second best record in the National League. You know, 102 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: they're running down the that that first round by which 103 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: is super important. In the last three games, they're betting 104 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: one eighty eight with a four to seventy three OPS. 105 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, just kind of but this is kind of 106 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: what we've talked about this all year. This is kind 107 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: of what this this team does, you know. And one 108 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: of the guys that's kind of been a culprit has 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: been Nick Castianos. He is in a brutal funk, atrocious funk. 110 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: Looking up some numbers since the All Star Break, Nick 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Castianos is batting one seventy eight, three walks, twenty five strikeouts, 112 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: ninety three played appearances, a four to ninety three OPS. Again, 113 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: that's since the All Star Break. That's third worst in 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: baseball out of qualified hitters. He's got the lowest war 115 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: out of qualified players since the All Star Break, negative 116 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: point eight. 117 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: You know. 118 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: Then he added in the defense and last Saturday in Texas, 119 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: Rob sat him said it was the turf, because of 120 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: the turf, the hard turf. I asked somebody in Texas As, 121 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: I said, have you ever heard anybody say anything about 122 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: the hard turf? In Texas and they said not once 123 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: in my life if I heard anybody say anything about 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: the hard turf. So, you know, Rob is trying to 125 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: I think, just trying to find a way to get 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: to get Nick out of the lineup and mix some 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: other guys in. 128 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: But could we. 129 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: See maybe Max Kepler a little bit more in right field? 130 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: Should we see a little bit more in Max Kepler 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: and right field? Maybe Saturday Kate Cavali's on them on 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: the right hand, or do you guys think that's something 133 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: that we should see or hope to see, or do 134 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: you think he's going to continue to ride out Nick. 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: I think it's time that they started playing some hot 136 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: hand here. I mean, you could platoon him, put Kepler 137 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: over there, and you know they got baitter because he 138 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: hits right. He's in lefties and he can play a 139 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: heck of a center field. Maybe it's time to play 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: him out there regular. You could play marsh regular and left, 141 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: and you could platoon and right. They just haven't gotten 142 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: enough out of neck. You know, I don't know what's 143 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: going through Rob's head. I believe that if he feels 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: like if he platoons Castianos, he's going to lose him 145 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: all together, and he doesn't want that to happen. You 146 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: do have to kind of manage the personnel in terms 147 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: of how you can get the most out of a guy, 148 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: and just having a guy completely disappear. It's not good 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: for your team if you would to start platooning him. 150 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: But uh, something, something's got to be done there because 151 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: they're not getting anything out. 152 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: Of him that could completely agree. 153 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 5: I do think that he's gonna have to play Kepler 154 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: a little bit more, believe it or not. I mean, 155 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 5: we were talking about Kepler, who has been struggling pretty 156 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: so much all year, but lately he's been swinging the 157 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: bat well. 158 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: He's gotten some. 159 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: Good key base hits, He's hit the ball hard. I mean, 160 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: he actually has a chance right now. I've watched Casianos 161 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: as a bats and it almost looks like he has 162 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: in Summit bats literally no chance. And when you're in 163 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 5: that sort of a funk, I mean, there's nothing wrong 164 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: with him and a guy a couple of days of 165 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: a blow we used to do with Pat Burrell, you know, 166 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: Charlie used to do a Pat Burrow. Charlie's done it, 167 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: you know. I Mean, sometimes you just have to say hey, 168 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: take a breather. We need we need some production. We're 169 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 5: not getting production out of some of the big boys 170 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: right now. Like you know, we talk a lot about 171 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: some of the other guys who are not producing. But 172 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 5: when you don't have your big two big left handed 173 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: hitters doing the job. I mean, this team right now, 174 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: for me, when Schwarber's not going well, the team just 175 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: basically falls apart. That's one player, and when that happens, 176 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 5: that's troublesome. I mean, some other people have to pick 177 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: it up. Right now, Harper's not swinging the bat all 178 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: that well. It's good to see him get a base 179 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: at the left field yesterday. It was finally flipped one 180 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: in the left. It was a little bit like Bobby 181 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: of Bray when he struggles for a while. If he 182 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: flips one in the left and he stays on the 183 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 5: ball a little bit better. He's pulling off the ball 184 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 5: pretty consistently right now, not swinging well. 185 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 3: They're just not getting a lot of production from a 186 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: lot of guys. 187 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 5: But when what Sharber's down, this team basically has no offense, 188 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 5: which is weird, and it should be much better. I mean, 189 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: the bottom of the lineup was doing a nice job 190 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: in Texas and they were taking some of the heat 191 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: off the top of the lineup. But top of the 192 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 5: lineup at some point has to produce. I mean, you 193 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 5: can go through a couple of days, but you know, 194 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 5: those guys to be better. And as far as you know, 195 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: Kepper get an opportunity to play, I'd stick him in there, 196 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 5: get him in there and let him play, and to 197 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 5: stay Nick, get off your feet and get out of 198 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: your head for a couple of games and you know. 199 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: Let's get it going. I know it's a tough. 200 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 5: Thing to manage for Rob Thompson because the players a 201 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 5: little sense of He's used to playing every single day. 202 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: But at some point you can't be the nice guy. 203 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 5: You got to be the guy that wears the black 204 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: hat and put the best team on the field. 205 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of weird, how you know, in the 206 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: last week we've seen every reason why we like this 207 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: team in October and every reason why we're concerned about 208 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: this team in October. 209 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Right right. 210 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: You know it is funny though, like you have you 211 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: know Ruby, you mentioned Max Kepper in this season, he 212 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: has We were talking a few weeks ago about is 213 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: if Crawford comes up where is could Kepler be gone? 214 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: But he is the hot hand, And that's what I 215 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: think Rob needs to do right now is just and 216 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: moving forward, just kind of go with the hot hand 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: with the lineup and who hits behind Harper and Schwarber. 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: Maybe although Alec Bohma had a couple of hits on 219 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: you know, Thursday with Triple A Lee High Valley, he 220 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: could be coming back soon. I think he'll slide in 221 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: that four spot. But yeah, go with the hot hand. 222 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: And it doesn't necessarily even have to be like a 223 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: true platoon every single time. But but if Max Kepler 224 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: has is swinging a good bat, hot bat, mix him 225 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: in there, maybe a little bit more in right field 226 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: while Nick is struggling. I mean, we're kind of think 227 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: we're you know, this is about winning games, going to 228 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: the postseason, figuring out what you've got, figuring out what 229 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: you can do in the postseason. And I think right 230 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: now you have to go with Max Keupler. And you know, 231 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: like you said, though, like Schwarber and Harper aren't swinging 232 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: the bat great right now. So it's not just pinning 233 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: this on Nick Castians. But he struggled most of the 234 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: season and certainly he has struggled terribly since the All 235 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: Star breaks. 236 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: So Schwarber is allowed a little. He's allowed to be 237 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: human now, and then they need other guys to come 238 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: up and pick him up and produce around him. He 239 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: did sway a good that last at bat last night. 240 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Maybe that will get something going because clearly he's not 241 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: allowed to have, you know, a four day. 242 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: Slump exactly because a good team collapses. 243 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Hey, that was first pitch brought to you exclusively by 244 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: our partners at Parks Casino. It's Pennsylvania's number one casino. 245 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Parkscasino dot com is the website. You must be twenty one. 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I thought he pitched pretty 277 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: well last night. 278 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: He ran into. 279 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: Trouble obviously in that last inning that he was on 280 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 2: the mound. But you hate to waste a pitching performance 281 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: like that, because again they're they're fighting for. You want 282 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 2: to get that second you would get. You want to 283 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: get one of those top two seeds, and right now 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: the Brewers can't lose. I feel like and so and 285 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are struggling, so that second seed, that one 286 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: of those top two seeds, is super important. They got 287 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: to get that locked down. So you hate to see 288 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: and then waste a pitching performance like Wizardo. 289 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: No question, they won't need a I wouldn't need a 290 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: fourth start up to the NLC Hops correct if they 291 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: were able to secure that, And that's huge the way 292 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: this team lines up. It's also fewer games you have 293 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: to win to get to the to get to the prize, 294 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: So I'm always when the great debate about extra rest 295 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: or getting the buy, I'll always take the fewer games 296 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: and needed to win the fewer games to get there, 297 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: especially with an aging roster, get him, get him some rest. 298 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: It's not that long of a break. He should be 299 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: able to ramp back up. But yeah, you need to 300 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: be full bore going after that second best record in 301 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: the National League. 302 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lozardo had great stuff. His sweeper was fantastic, basketball 303 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: was good. He was a pinpointing until like that seventh inning. 304 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: And I think it was an interesting quote from Thompson 305 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: about how he should have probably had now that he's 306 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: got a full contingency of bullpen, he probably should have 307 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: had O'Ryan Kirkering ready for Riley Adams in that situation 308 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: when he walked that first hitter, that's when he probably 309 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: should have pulled him. 310 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: There's a couple of. 311 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 5: Things that Thompson didn't and I love Rob, but there's 312 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: a couple of things that I disagreed with. I know 313 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: it happened fast for Lizardo, but when you have a 314 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: full your full bullpen, he probably. 315 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: Should have had Oryan Kirkring ready. 316 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: And he said it, he stated it himself for for 317 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 5: Riley Adams in that situation to try to preserve that 318 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: one run lead after the walk, even though Loazarda was 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 5: throwing well, that that walk really hurt him, and then 320 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: he left a fastball right middle middle and Riley Adams 321 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: smoked it. 322 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: So uh, but Lazardo was throwing really really well. 323 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 5: I like the idea that they were going to the 324 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: six man rotation, and you talked about it, Todd. They 325 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: gotta win games, man, they gotta win games because that 326 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: second place in as far as the record is concerned, 327 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: is winnable. 328 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: The other teams stink. 329 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: The other teams are playing poorly too, and so you know, 330 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: I mean, the Dodgers aren't playing great. San Diego is 331 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 5: not really all playing all that great. They're they're having 332 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 5: some injury issues. Now, I mean there's there's a there's 333 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 5: a real good chance and and the Cubs obviously are 334 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: a good team. But I mean again, you gotta be 335 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: able to beat that second seed if you can, and 336 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: they have they're good enough to be that second seed. 337 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: They just gotta they gotta win games. 338 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, As as of today, the Phillies are tied for 339 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: this with the Padres for the second seed. But they're 340 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: both sixty nine and and fifty two. But what do 341 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: you got do you guys like the I mean, we 342 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: kind of thought this was coming, the six man rotation. 343 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: Rob announced that on Thursday before the game in DC. 344 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: So Aaron Nola is going to rejoin the rotation on Sunday. 345 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez is going to pitch on Monday. Taiwan Walker. 346 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: Taiwan Walker, who we again't go back into the off season. 347 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: We thought, is this guy even gonna be around? And 348 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: now he's pitched, so well, they're like, we are, he 349 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: is the guy. He's he's the sixth man. He's gonna 350 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: be the sixth man moving forward. And so it's going 351 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: to give Zach Wheeler some rest his last five starts 352 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: four to seven one EARRA, It's going to give Ranger 353 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: Swarz a little bit more at rest his last five 354 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: starts six, five to nine ARRA. And it's also going 355 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: to give Christopher Sanchez some extra rest, who is approaching 356 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: a career high in innings. 357 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: So makes sense, right, no question. 358 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this like some spring training. We've 359 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: been talking about it since last year that the possibility exists. 360 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean they I think they went to it one 361 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: turn last year, but it's been out there all all season. 362 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: When you go to the postseason in consecutive years like 363 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: this team has, it adds extra workload on your pitchers. 364 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: The example I always used, and it's stressful pitching in 365 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: the postseason. I always use Madison Bumgardner as an example. 366 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of hit a wall when he 367 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: turned thirty, but I mean he'll take it because he 368 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: won three World Series rings. He was an absolute horse. 369 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: But he was pitching an extra month every year and 370 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: I think it had a real took a real toll 371 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: on him. Wheeler and all these guys have been pitching 372 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: extra you know. Not last year was only one star. 373 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: They were out of there early. But I mean, I think, 374 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They've been talking about a 375 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: six man for a long time, and it's good to 376 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: be able to go to it. It's good to be 377 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: able to go to it with Aaronola. He's been there, 378 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: he's done that. I mean, this is a fascinating situation. 379 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: He has a chance, after a kind of a lost season, 380 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: he has a chance to really impact the team and 381 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: really impact this race, almost in a higher gun fashion. 382 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: I know he struggled, he's been up and down last 383 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, last year or so, and he struggled earlier 384 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: this year. But let me ask you this, if if 385 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: your team went out and acquired Aaron Nola at the deadline, 386 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: even with all his warts, his recent warts, you would 387 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: take a chance at that. And I'm really ready to 388 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: take a chance that he can provide, you know, six 389 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: really good weeks for this team and give them a 390 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: lift and give everybody else a blow. It's a it's 391 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: a really good chance for him, like I said, to 392 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: do something for the team that he's kind of missed 393 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: out on all season. 394 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 4: He could be a starter. 395 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, we were talking about this six 396 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 5: starter situation with Aner being the guy, but Painter hasn't 397 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 5: stepped forward and and Taiwan Walker has so but I 398 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 5: do like the idea that I'm going to sixth man rotation. 399 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 5: As far as Nola is concerned, this is a fresh arm. 400 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 5: It wasn't an arm issue. It was a rib and 401 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: an ankle issue. And he has you know, logged a 402 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: lot of innings over the over the years, but he 403 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 5: has now he's now coming off basically you know a 404 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: few months of being able to like sit back and 405 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 5: work his way into getting back and ready and listen, 406 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 5: he may end up being the third starter. If Suarez 407 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 5: and you know, some of the other guys in the rotation, Lozardo, whatever. 408 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: If they're not throwing the ball all that well, they're 409 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 5: gonna pick him. They're gonna mix a match. It's gonna 410 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 5: be Wheeler, and it's gonna be Sanchez, and after that, 411 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: it's gonna be the best pitcher that's pitching at that time, 412 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: And it could very well be Aaron Nola because he's 413 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: been there and he's done it, and he's had some 414 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 5: you know, success, success in the postseason. 415 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: So I'm going to love having him back. 416 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 5: I don't know how well he's going to pitch, but 417 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 5: it's certainly going to help this team's depth. The interesting 418 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: thing about this is what's gonna happen roster wise, because 419 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: now you're gonna have a shorter bullpen, You're gonna have 420 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 5: seven guys in the bullpen, You're gonna have six guys 421 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 5: in the rotation. What is the roster move that they make. 422 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 5: They've got a couple of difficult decisions because when Nola 423 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 5: comes back, they'll really only have one guy that has options, 424 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 5: and that's Max Lazarre. And do they make the move? 425 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 5: Is it Ross, is it Romano, Is it Lazarre? 426 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: Who gets sent out? 427 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: And then when Alvarado comes back. They got another difficult 428 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: decision on the nineteenth. Now this is basically stating, you know, 429 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 5: the under the thought process that they were, that they're 430 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: everybody's healthy, but to some really tough roster decisions to 431 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 5: be made. Same way with Alec Boone is gonna come back, 432 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: I think closer to this weekend then next week because 433 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 5: he's getting closer. 434 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: When Alec Bone comes, Who's it gonna be Western Wilson 435 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: or Kemp? 436 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: I think it might be Otto just because I think 437 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: Western Wilson could do more things auto Kemp's inability to 438 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: play defense I think hurts him. 439 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of stuff. 440 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: To unpack here, and it's going to be really interesting 441 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 5: some of the roster moves they have to make. 442 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bullpen, you know who goes out of that 443 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: bullpen when they go to a six man is very interesting. 444 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: We talked about this on Monday, like you do do 445 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: you do? 446 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: You keep? 447 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: Even though Romano has really struggled. It was funny though. 448 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: On Monday I had mentioned how his like the last 449 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: eight appearances in all low leverage situations, he had pitched 450 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: pretty well, and then the other night in Cincinnati Gat 451 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: actually got blown up. But do you keep the depth, 452 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: i e. Keep Romano or an option Maxwell's are or 453 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: do you just say, you know what, Romano doesn't really 454 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: have a spot for US Lazars pitching in you know, 455 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: more trust you go in that route. 456 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: So it's interesting. 457 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: But yeah, the Phillies have They're in a stretch right now, 458 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: thirty nine games in forty one days. So the six 459 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: man rotation makes all the sense. 460 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: It makes sense in so many ways. And I'm especially 461 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: looking at Wheeler, I'm especially looking at Swarez. Give them 462 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: a little extra time between starts because they are so 463 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: hugely important. 464 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, in they're saying just one time through, but it 465 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 5: may end up being a couple of times through, and 466 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 5: if and then they're thinking about ways that they can 467 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 5: kind of massage through this. It's probably gonna be guys 468 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 5: maybe piggybacking something like that, where you have, you know, 469 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 5: a guy start and then a guy following him as 470 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 5: a starter and going to you know, a quote unquote 471 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 5: five man rotation again. But they're gonna have to mix 472 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 5: and match and figure it out. It's a good problem to. 473 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 4: Have, it is. It is. 474 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: So we had on Wednesday, we had Eagles GM Howie 475 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: Roseman on the show, and that was a lot of fun. 476 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: He had a lot of great things to say. So 477 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: you haven't checked that episode out, go back and check 478 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: out Wednesday. It would really I mean, he you really 479 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: got to see a lot of his personality. 480 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: I don't really know him. 481 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: That well, obviously covering the Phillies, but a lot of 482 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff, talking about winning and losing 483 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: in Philly. You know you and you know Rubin you 484 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: he has had a couple of drinks back in the day, right, 485 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: you know. He was talking about how he as a kid, 486 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: he you know, just just his love of the NFL 487 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: and and just wanting to be a general manager. And 488 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: jim usn't that great question at the end. 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This is how you win Parkscasino dot com. 512 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 5: For tickets to all shows, you must be twenty one 513 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 5: and if you have a gambling problem called one eight 514 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: hundred gambling. 515 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: So in Cincinnati this week, guys, Kyle Schwarber, you know 516 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: he grew up right outside of Cincinnati and the Reds 517 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: kind of rolled out the red carpet for him, and 518 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: his dad comes out and throws the ceremoniy first pitch. 519 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: His youth baseball coach comes out and throws out this 520 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: ceremonial first pitch. 521 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: And this is a lot of. 522 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: People very hot and bothered, very hot and bothered, And I, honestly, 523 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: I find it a little bit ridiculous. 524 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: You know, the idea that this is going. 525 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 2: To you know, sway Kyle Schwarber in free agency, that 526 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: he's going to be sitting there with two offers on 527 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: the table and he's going to go, you know what, 528 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to sign with our five six 529 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: offers on the table. He's going to, know what, I 530 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: think I'm going to go to Cincinnati because I you know, 531 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: I grew up a Reds fan, but also because they 532 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: had my dad and my youth baseball coach come to 533 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: the game and throw me a ceremonial first pitch. Do 534 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: you find the this just an absolutely ridiculous suggestion that 535 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: this is going to sway him one way or the other. 536 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: It is for me, I agree, ridiculous. What and we've 537 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: been talking about Cincinnati for like a year as a 538 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: potential and destination. That makes a lot of sense because 539 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: obviously he grew up there. He's a Reds fan as 540 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: a kid. But they got some good young players, they 541 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: got a ballpark with the ball Flies, and he's got this, 542 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: you know, big personality. He's a giant in the community. 543 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: He would have a Jim Tolmy like. It would be 544 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: a Jim told me like signing for that franchise back 545 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: when the Phillies signed to me, and he checked every 546 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: box on the field and off the field, from player 547 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: to community guy, to teammate to power hitter. Anyway, Schwarmer 548 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: would fit all that for the Reds. He would make 549 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: a ton of sense. We've been talking about that for 550 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: like a year. In the end, I just don't It's 551 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: not Cincinnati's style, and I've talked to people in an 552 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: organization about it, and they admit it's just not something 553 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: we do. We don't go out and sign mega free 554 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: agent contracts. It's gonna come down to money. The Phillies 555 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: have the money, they know his value. I don't see 556 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: any way they let him get away. I don't think 557 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: in the end, Cincinnati is going to be a real player, 558 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: given their history and given the way they they they 559 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: don't spend. And I just think John Middleton is a 560 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: guy who listens to his customers and he hears the 561 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: standing ovations and he sees the schwar bombs and he's 562 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna listen, and they're gonna get it done. He's gonna 563 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: be right back here in Philadelphia. 564 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: He sort of stole my thunder there. 565 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 5: Jim, that's what happens when you're number three, And no, 566 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: you should. 567 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I love it. I mean, listen, they you're 568 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: absolutely right. 569 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 5: I view him as a Jim Tomey type signing for 570 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 5: them in Cincinnati. It's a very very similar situation and 571 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: it would be big for the Cincinnati And I don't 572 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: have any problem with them pulling out all stops like that. 573 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: I mean, they haven't violated anything. 574 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: They haven't. 575 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 5: You know, that's not a violation of any of the rules. 576 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 5: I mean, they're just honoring the guy. And I got 577 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: no problem with that. And at the end of the day, 578 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: it's always about the green Backs and the length. It's 579 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: the money in the length. And you know, unless Cincinnati 580 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 5: gets to like ninety five percent of that money at length, 581 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be a factor. 582 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: And so and Honestly, I just don't know. 583 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 5: That they have the wherewithal and the money to be 584 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: able to hang with the Phillies in that situation. But 585 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 5: it's possible. Anything's possible, obviously. I just feel like, at 586 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: the end of the day, the Phillies are going to 587 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: bring this guy back. He's too important to this franchise 588 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 5: for a number of reasons that Jim's already stated, and 589 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 5: he's he's a great person, who's a great ballplayer, and 590 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 5: he fits Philadelphia to too. 591 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: Dark and well. 592 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: So, the largest contract the Reds the've ever signed a 593 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: player too is the contract extension for Joey Vada. That 594 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: was a ten year, two hundred and twenty five million 595 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: dollar deal. The largest free agent contract that they've ever signed, 596 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: if my research is correct, four years, sixty four million 597 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: to Nick Castianos and Mike Mustakis in twenty twenty. Those 598 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: are the largest free agent contracts they've ever signed a player. 599 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: So they haven't even sniffed one hundred million dollars with 600 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: a free agent. The current largest contract the Reds have 601 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: is Cabrian Hayes, who they got in the trade eight years, 602 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: seventy million dollars. So you know, like like for you know, Rubin, 603 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: your dad played here, you grew up here, you grew 604 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: up a Phillies fan. If you were Kyle Schwarber, uh, 605 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: if you were having the type of career that Kyle 606 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Schwarber is having for the Seattle Mariners and you came 607 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: back to play the Phillies one day and your dad 608 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: threw out the first pitch to you. And then the 609 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: free agency comes along and the Mariners go, We're going 610 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: to give you five years, one hundred and fifty million 611 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: dollars to stay in Seattle. And then the Phillies call 612 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: you up and go, how about four years ninety million? 613 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: But we did have your dad throw the first pitch 614 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: to you before a game. 615 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: You're signing re signing with the Mariners, just like. 616 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: That would be correct of the time. 617 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Now if less money didn't mean anything to me, 618 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: and I think that there And honestly, there's so many 619 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: different factors. I mean, you're talking about there's going to 620 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 5: be some union pressure. There's all types stuff. He's probably 621 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: one of the biggest. He and Tucker are going to 622 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: be the biggest I think bats as far as free 623 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: agency is concerned. And the Union is going to to 624 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: push the envelope here, so they'll have some influence on 625 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: this decision as well. They ultimately it will be the 626 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 5: player's decision, and especially in Kyle Schwarber's case, but the 627 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: Union's going to have some influence on this baby too. 628 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: That's the That's the homecoming to watch. The potential homecoming 629 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: to watch is the Cubs if they lose Talker and 630 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: they have money burning a hole in their pocket. That 631 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Schwober was a cobby drafted by them, cans in majors, 632 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: won a World Series with him. They're kicking themselves because 633 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: they didn't trouble little more patience getting through a down year. 634 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: That's the homecoming for me to watch. It shouldn't bother 635 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: people that Kyle's dad caught the first pitch. It should 636 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: bother people that you went into Cincinnati and lost two 637 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: or three, you know correct. I also want to say this, 638 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: and I've talked about this with a number of players 639 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: over thirty years. It can be very distracting for a 640 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: player to play at home. There can be a lot 641 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: of distractions and a lot of guys don't want to 642 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: come out and say it, but sometimes it's it's good 643 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: to have that little bit of distance, you don't have 644 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: the whole world pulling on you. So that might be 645 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: something that factors into into Schwarber's thinking as well. And 646 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: this is twenty twenty five. You can fly home on 647 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: a private jet on an off day and be there 648 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: in two hours, So it's it's it's not like you 649 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: know you have to be home. You can play elsewhere 650 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: and still go home out in the off season, and 651 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: you know you don't play your whole life. You're going 652 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: to spend the bulk of your life in your hometown. 653 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: So those are all things to factor I think Kyle 654 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: Schwarber is very focused and very comfortable in Philadelphia, and 655 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: I also think he with a team like Cincinnati, you 656 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: have to wonder is the owner in or out? You 657 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: never have to worry about that. In Philadelphia. The owner 658 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: is in. The ownership is in, and every year they're 659 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: going to put their best foot forward. Try to put 660 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: a ring on your finger. I think that matters. 661 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: I was talking with somebody about Schwarber recently, and you know, 662 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: create seen stuff, and he said, the guy wants the 663 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: guy wants to win. He wants to be in a 664 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: place where he knows he has a chance to win. 665 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: In your right gym. 666 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: So say, say the Reds go crazy and they matched 667 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: the Phillies, and he goes, you know what, I do 668 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: want to play for my hometown team. But he has 669 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: to be then asking himself, well, they just dropped one 670 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million on me. Are they actually 671 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: going to go out and keep spending money? I mean, 672 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: they haven't shown the history of doing that. So okay, 673 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: you can get your money and play for your hometown team. 674 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: Are you going to get to the World Series. You're 675 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: gonna have a chance to get to the playoffs every year? 676 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: You know in Philly, you're gonna have a chance to 677 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: do that. Ask Ken Griffy Junior how his experience was 678 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati playing for his own back. He grew up 679 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati a Reds fan, obviously his dad and everything 680 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: like that didn't exactly work out. 681 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: So, you know, didn't Schwarbar question not Schwarba our Castianos 682 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: on his way out the door? Didn't he question ownership's 683 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: commitment of Cincinnati? 684 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he crushed your crushed ownership. 685 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: He crushed ownership. 686 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: All he has to do is kind of take the 687 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: two take temperature two lockers. 688 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: Down exactly right. Yeah, literally two lockers down. So all right, guys. 689 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: The Phillies continue their series against the Nationals this weekend, 690 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: finishing up this ten game road trip Friday night. 691 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 4: It is Mackenzie. 692 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: Gore on the mound for the Ooh, that's going to 693 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: be a that's a tough. 694 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: One, tough one for Philli. McKenzie's been struggling lately, but 695 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 5: he's really good. He's got great stuff, and the Philly 696 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 5: struggled against him. 697 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the local nine. That's a tough one to get 698 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: going against. Yeah, but they've got to do it. 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