1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: This morning is a very interesting day. And the reason 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: why I say that is because the White House they're 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: having some problems. They're having some pretty serious problems this 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: morning because their economic data is the opposite of what 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: they claimed yesterday at a White House press conference. They're 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: now getting called out for it. It's bad, and they 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: are also trying to figure out how they got it 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: so wrong. Now, let me explain a little bit more 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: about this so you understand. So there's data that's come out. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Wall Street reacted, it wasn't great. White House apparently either 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: had bad data or didn't realize that the data was 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: coming out at the White House. And so now they're 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to undo a mess that 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: they made. And it looks like they were, when I say, 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: asleep at the wheel, like they just missed an entire 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: the report that they're on, like they're in charge of it, okay, 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Like like this is insane. 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: It really is. Now. 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Top White House energy advisor went on TV today and 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: he said that there is nothing that your AC costs 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: have to do with oil production, Okay, And he's getting 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: ripped this morning because the cost of energy, the cost 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: of electricity, the cost of heating your home very much 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: is connected to energy prices. And he's getting ripped on 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: for saying what he said this morning because it's also 26 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: seems that he missed the same report and is asleep 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: at the wheel. And there's a concerning aspect of this. 28 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: There's there's a laughable aspect of it, and you're laughing, 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you're just like, God, these guys are idiots. But there's 30 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: also a very concerning aspect of this. And the concerning 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: aspect of this is the fact that it's like, Okay, 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: so let me get this straight. You guys don't know 33 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. We clearly have no idea who's running 34 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the country. Like that's one thing that I think is 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: a like blatantly obvious. We have no idea who's running 36 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: the country. And then you guys aren't even up to 37 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: date on your own intel, your own intel. You don't 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: know what's going on. You guys have no clue what's 39 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: happening with your own intel. 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: And this is like a political thing. 41 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: This is an actual government report from the White House 42 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: that you're somehow unaware of. How does that even happen 43 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: when you don't have a sitting president, When it's just 44 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: a fake government, and I guess no one knows who's 45 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: in charge. The wheels are now starting to come off, 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: especially since they don't have to fake it as well 47 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: anymore because he's no longer the candidate, right, Like, I 48 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: don't believe this would have happened if Joe Biden was 49 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: still the candidate, and now that he's not, I think 50 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: everybody else kind of like it seems like they're like, 51 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: all right, we're just going to check out, like we're 52 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: going to coast. He's on vacation every week. Maybe we 53 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: should just be on vacation every week. So this government 54 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: report comes out, they're all flat footed, right, they all 55 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: have no idea what's actually happening and what's going on, 56 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: and then they start trying to figure out how to 57 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: fake it because they don't understand that the report that 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: they were supposed to have is a report that they're 59 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: actually supposed to be like reporting to the people, like 60 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be telling us this is what's going on, 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and they're being asked about the report from the actual media. 62 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: It is totally insane. 63 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: It is completely insane that this is the scenario right now, 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: But this is now what the country looks like when 65 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: you have a guy that's been a fake president for 66 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: a long time and now apparently have no clue who 67 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: the president actually is. White House Energy advisor on Trump's 68 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: plan to drop energy prices. Here is his response on 69 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: CNBC listened this morning. 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Moment, and I wanted to ask you about this former 71 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: President Trump saying that he believes that he could have 72 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: energy prices if he wins reelection. He says, quote, you're 73 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: heating and air conditioning, electricity, gasoline, all can be cut 74 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: down in half. He said this at a Michigan rally 75 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: last month, saying that he would declare what he calls 76 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: a quote national emergency to increase fossil fuel supply and 77 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: decrease prices. 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: What do you think of that? 79 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: Honestly, I have no idea what he's referring to. We 80 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: have oil production is significantly higher than it was under 81 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: his administration. It's full two million barrels higher than it 82 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: was where we took office at thirteen and a half million. 83 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: But as you know, your air conditioning costs have nothing 84 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: to do with oil production. There electricity, which is not oil. 85 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: In the United States, natural gas was at ninety two 86 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: bcf a day it's today at one hundred and three 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: bcf a day, so a significant increase in gas production. 88 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: With the largest LNG exporter. 89 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 4: We'd probably be exporting a little less if demand for 90 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: gas was there. 91 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 5: It's just not there. 92 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: And not only that, we've added one hundred gigawatts of 93 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: clean energy over the last few years. So what really 94 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: brings down the cost of electricity and cost for families 95 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: is won the gasoline that's already down, the cost for 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: natural gas we're producing as much as we've ever have, 97 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 4: and the availability of cheap clean energy, and that's also 98 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: rising dramatically. 99 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 5: So the only thing that is in. 100 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Let me just say pause there is do any of 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: you guys like you're getting cheap energy because the Biden administration? 102 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: And again this guy's winging it. He obviously is like 103 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: completely caught. This is like going into a math test, 104 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: I think, and and then all of a sudden it's 105 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: a history test, and you're like, wait, what what am 106 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: I doing here? 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: Wait? Where did this come from? Wait? 108 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: I didn't know this was outweight? I was I was 109 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: completely flat footed. Wait, I have no idea what you're 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: talking about. I gotta wing this. I got a wing 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: this Like in a major way. How did this happen, Like, like, 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: when did all this happen? When did all this come out? 113 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: That that's what he's doing right now. And so he 114 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: just said that there is an abundance of really cheap energy. Okay, 115 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: how many of you are impressed with your with your 116 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: utility bill. 117 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm not. 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm paying more now for my utilities than I've ever had. 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the crazy old dad that's walking around 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: the house, you know, you know, yelling at the kids. 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: Turn off the lights when you leave the room, turn 122 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: off the lights when you leave the room. Like that's me. 123 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: That's how expensive it's gotten that I mean, And I 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: think I'm probably not the only one. When I go 125 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: put gas in my car, I'm not seeing some amazing price, Like, man, 126 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: this is awesome. Like I remember when Trump was in office, 127 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I actually kind of look forward to filling up my 128 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: car because it. 129 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: Was so cheap. 130 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: You're like, this is great, dude, this is half price 131 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: from what I was paying for on Obama. I mean, 132 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I remember that compare and contrast moments. And so the 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: White House guys just told you there's an abundance of clean, cheap, 134 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: renewable energy like, where do I find this at Walmart? 135 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm being sarcastic. You can obviously buy energy at Walmart, 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: but keep listening. 137 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: Down the costs for natural gas. We're producing as much 138 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: as we've ever have, and the availability of cheap, clean energy, 139 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: and that's also rising dramatically. 140 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: So the only thing that. 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: Is energy Emergency would do would probably increase costs on 142 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: American families because it would take away all the incentives 143 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: for investments and things like nuclear energy, infusion and renewable energy, 144 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: which is actually bringing help to bring costs down. That's 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: what the energy transition needs to be. It needs to 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: be continued fossil fuels for as long as we need 147 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: them and bringing on clean energy that is cheaper as 148 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: we need for the future. And we definitely want the 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: private sector to invest in nuclear power, which is both 150 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: clean and efficient, but it needs the incentives from the 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: government to be able to grow. 152 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this may be the most awkward interview I've 153 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: ever seen five three five nine seven three two. When 154 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and I was looking at this, 155 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: I started laughing, like, I've never seen an administration so 156 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: unprepared on a basic report. 157 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: In my entire life. And it is. It is. 158 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: It's laughable, but it's incredibly concerning. Like I want to know, actually, now, 159 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: who really is running the country. We know it's not 160 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, but who's running the country now? Who is 161 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the president? If the you know what hits the fan, 162 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: who's running the country. Dick Cheney, as you know, angry 163 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: that his daughter got run out of Congress, trying to 164 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: get a little revenge on the maggot movement Donald Trump 165 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: saying he's voting for Kamala Harris, which is just embarrassing. 166 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: We've talked about that on this show before and what 167 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: a sellout that is. But I also want to go 168 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: back and just remind you of just how petty Dick 169 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Cheney is in this endorsement compared to the history behind 170 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: all of this. 171 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: I've got to montage for you. Take a listen. 172 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 6: I actually have the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney, 173 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 6: Dick Cheney and Satan. 174 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: That's next time the Sith Lord is. 175 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: Back like a demon, it rises again. 176 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: Dick Cheney, Darth Vader, Satan. Thank you to. 177 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 7: Satan forgive him the inspiration on how to play this role. 178 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 5: We don't need Dick Cheney Dick Cheney was Jane dangerous. 179 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: That only thing, the only thing you got to do 180 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: is just embtter than Dick Chane. I like to see 181 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: Dick Cheney do exposed. He's a liar. 182 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 6: I actually have the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney. 183 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 7: You're part of the Dick Cheney cult that led to 184 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 7: hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis being killed because the 185 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 7: cult you were in. 186 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 8: Chaney dishonestly made up the idea that had nuclear weapon. 187 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 5: Just lied. Why do they want these wars? 188 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 8: What is it that they don't like somebody because they 189 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 8: don't like. 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 5: The look of their face? 191 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: Relevant national embarrassments Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney. 192 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 4: I'm not remember Dick Cheney driving over to the CIA 193 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: to look over their shoulders to make sure they gave 194 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: him the intel that he wanted so as to justify 195 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: the Iraq war. 196 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 6: I actually have the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney. 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: No apologies, no regrets from former Vice President Dick Cheney 198 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: for the harsh CIA interrogation techniques. 199 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 5: Under Dick Cheney's tutelage. We got the photographs at albil Gray, the. 200 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 9: Former vice president at one point signing a waterboard. 201 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: Kit Cheney, of course unrepentant. You know what to go to, 202 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: go to hell. 203 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk about a man rotten to his 204 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: very core, which is in itself a tiny black hole 205 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: from which no joy or like can escape. The ancient 206 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Coptics knew this man, ash. 207 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: Deck, the dark one, the jagged tooth, foris demon who 208 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: steals our children. 209 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: We know him as former Vice President Dicklara. 210 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: I actually have the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney. 211 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 9: What do you think of Dick Cheney, and people would say, well, 212 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 9: I hate everything he stands for. I am someone fundamentally 213 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 9: opposed to the politics of Liz Cheney and her father, 214 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 9: Dick Cheney. 215 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: I literally started. 216 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 9: Writing books in the first place more than a decade ago, 217 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 9: because I had so much to get off my chest 218 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 9: about what I thought was wrong with the Cheney family 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 9: approach to Warren foreign policy. That first book I ever 220 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 9: wrote is literally dedicated to him. 221 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: Dick Cheney. Profoundly dangerous. Cheney, I think was arrested twice. 222 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 5: An master manipulator like Dick Cheney. You're willing to say anything. 223 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 10: And now is the cascade of misery and death and chaos. 224 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 10: He did so much to unleash rages anew Mister Cheney, 225 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 10: he has the unadulterated gall to come before the country 226 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 10: and tell us that it's all someone else's fault. You 227 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 10: said there was no doubt Saddam Hussein had weapons of 228 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 10: mass destruction. You said we would be greeted as liberators. 229 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 10: You said the Iraq insurgency was in the last throws 230 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 10: back in two thousand and five. And you said that 231 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 10: after our intervention, extremists would have to quote rethink their 232 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 10: strategy of jihad. Now, with almost a trillion dollars spent there, 233 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 10: with forty five hundred American lives lost there, what do 234 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 10: you say to those who say you were so wrong 235 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 10: about so much at the expense of so many. 236 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: No, I just fundamentally disagree with Reagan Megan. 237 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 6: I actually have the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney. 238 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: Jany's the guy who told those guys the line in 239 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: the first place. 240 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 5: You're more Honessidor. 241 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 11: Wilson wrote an op ed titled What I Didn't Find 242 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 11: in Africa that exposed VI President Cheney's use a false 243 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 11: information to sell us a war in Iraq. A week 244 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 11: after Wilson's op ed was published, his wife, Valerie Plain 245 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 11: was outed as a covert CIA agent. 246 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: All we did was. 247 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 7: Out a ciaaed the criminal proclivity, power grab mentality of 248 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 7: Dick Cheney. 249 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 5: And they twisted that intelligence. 250 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: I did not. 251 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 5: Believe what Dick Cheney have to say. I thought that 252 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: they were lying. 253 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally. 254 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 5: Shot a man. 255 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: Vice President Cheney's been the most dangerous vice president we've had, 256 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: probably in American history. 257 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 6: I actually have the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney. 258 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: It's just so much fun to go back and remind 259 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: people of these scumbags. Now they love Dick Cheney because 260 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney is angry about his daughter getting run out 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: of Congress and he's like, I'm voting for Kama Harris, 262 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: screw Donald Trump and Maga who got rid of her. 263 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: And now they're like, yeah, I got Dick Cheney's endorsement. Wait, 264 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: I thought you guys hated Dick Cheney. What happened last 265 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Sun checked? You hated Dick Cheney. I mean hated Dick 266 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: Cheney on a whole nother He was Satan And people 267 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: wonder why I don't trust Democrats because as soon as 268 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: you're useful again, after they call you Satan darth Vader, 269 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: the list goes. 270 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: On and on. 271 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: They're all back in. They're like, all right, we're good. Now, 272 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: let's do it again. Like I like, forget all that, 273 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: let's go. We're good, We're ready. Come on five three 274 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: five nine seven three two five three five nine seven 275 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: three two eight hundred number one, eight hundred four seven 276 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: four nine seven three two one eight hundred four seven 277 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: four nine seven three two. Ben Ferguson show, We're gonna 278 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: get some of your phone calls in here. Your reaction 279 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: to that, it is, I mean, if you care about 280 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: like just integrity at all, like a little bit, like 281 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: not a lot, just a little bit, if you don't, 282 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: if that doesn't bother you listening to that, that this 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: is like just how how willing and ready they are 284 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: just to throw all of their values out the window. 285 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Like this guy's Satan. We've been telling you for twenty years. 286 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Oh wait, he likes us. Now, Oh let's endorse that guy. 287 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Let's go. Oh I didn't, I mean, well this could 288 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: help us? Oh well then I this hurts Republicans. Let's 289 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: take his endorsement. If you guys, if you think a 290 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: guy is is Satan and Satan wants to. 291 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Endorse you, I don't want the endorsement. 292 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: But come here. He's like, no, no, this is good. Democrats 293 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: are like, no, no, this is this is good. Let's 294 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: do this. Let's let's have this moment. Let's knock this 295 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: one out of the park. 296 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: Baby. 297 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: I actually have the endorsement of Dick Cheney. I know 298 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: I told you was Satan. I know, I know I 299 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: said he was Satan, but he's really not Satan. We 300 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: were just playing that up when he was on the 301 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: other side, But now that he's endorsing me, he's not Satan. 302 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: Like like, let's just let's just delete all of that. 303 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: It never really happened. 304 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: We're good. 305 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Jd Vance this morning going on CNBC and he had 306 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot to say on CNBC. Here's part one of 307 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: what he said moments ago joining us. 308 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 8: Now Ohio, great state of Ohio, Senator jd Vance, We 309 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 8: grew up well long before you grew up. I grew 310 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 8: up in a part of Sance. Now you're from Middletown 311 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 8: and you've been on the show before. 312 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: Senator's been with Steve Case. 313 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 8: It's when you involved with that, and I think for 314 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 8: Hillbilly elogy, I don't know if it was. 315 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 5: A book to or what. 316 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 8: But so we've met before, great to have you on. 317 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 5: I want to struggling how to start. 318 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 8: We could do a post mortem on the debate, but 319 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 8: because we're so interested in trying to get into your 320 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 8: economic beliefs, given that, as we now know, people's economic 321 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 8: beliefs can evolve, as we've seen maybe from you know, 322 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 8: for a President Trump's opponent. But I'm wondering whether yours 323 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 8: have evolved, because then we'll get into some of the 324 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 8: things you said in the past. And is there how 325 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 8: much daylight right now? Is there between what you believe 326 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 8: as what I call you an economic populace? Is there 327 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 8: daylight between you and President right now? 328 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: No? I don't think so. 329 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 7: I mean, look, obviously he selected me as his running mate, 330 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 7: and I'm trying to run to implement and win on 331 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 7: the Trump agenda. But I think that President Trump's economic 332 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 7: views are actually pretty straightforward American conservatism, which is, we 333 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 7: need to manufacture things in this country. We need common 334 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 7: sense energy and regulatory policies to be able to make things, 335 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 7: and the best way to lift up workers is to 336 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 7: promote good jobs and good wages, not to just throw 337 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 7: everybody on welfare, which I think is in some ways 338 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 7: the main thrust of the Kamahayer's economic policy. So there's 339 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 7: definitely some element of populism to it, because look, I 340 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 7: do think. 341 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: That for thirty years in this country, we. 342 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 7: Shift a lot of good manufacturing jobs to places like 343 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 7: East Asia. Now China makes some of the critical things 344 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 7: that we need, antibiotics, prescription drugs, even god forbid, the 345 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 7: weapons that our troops would need if we went to war. 346 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 5: Against a nation like China. 347 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 7: So we have to be a little bit smarter about 348 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 7: our own self reliance as a nation. That is one 349 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 7: departure I think between President Trump's vision and frankly thirty 350 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 7: forty years of failed leadership in this country. 351 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: Great opening for him, by the way, talking about this, 352 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: he then moved on to talk about trade. 353 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 8: A lot of what I think of a populism, though 354 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 8: it seems like it's almost diametrically opposed to certain aspects 355 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 8: of capitalism. 356 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: And there are certain groups and I. 357 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 8: Don't even want to mention the name of it, but 358 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 8: they claim you as a strict adherent to populism. 359 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know the group I'm talking about. 360 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 8: You have said we should raise corporate taxes in the past. 361 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 8: If the president the former president wants to cut the 362 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 8: twenty one percent right down of fifteen, I think you 363 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 8: said twenty eight or even higher, that these big corporations 364 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 8: deserve that. 365 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 7: Well, what I said is that we need to lower 366 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 7: taxes on corporations that are creating jobs in this country 367 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 7: and raise tariffs on corporations that are shipping jobs overseas 368 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 7: and manufacturing overseas. Look, if you're trying to take advantage 369 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 7: of Chinese slave labor and then use American markets to 370 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 7: make a profit on your product, I do think and 371 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 7: I know Donald Trump thinks that we should try to 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 7: penalize these companies. But we want companies that are investing 373 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 7: in America, hiring America, and creating good American jobs to thrive. 374 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 7: But we have to recognize there is a fundamental difference 375 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 7: between a national corporation that's creating good jobs in this 376 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 7: country and a foreign corporation that's benefiting from Chinese. 377 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 8: Second Industrial policy that the Democrats get criticized fule, Oh no. 378 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: It's not. 379 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 7: Look whatever you want to call it, man, The problem 380 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 7: is Look, Chinese slaves making two dollars a day, if 381 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 7: you know, and they get caned working seventy two hours 382 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 7: a week, if they want to work seventy hours a 383 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 7: week instead, you want to allow American manufacturers to benefit 384 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 7: from that cheap labor. 385 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 5: Not only is it going to destroy. 386 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 7: Good American jobs and wages, it's going to decimate our 387 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 7: core manufacturing industry, which I think makes us less productive 388 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 7: over time. The final and most important point is it 389 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 7: makes us reliant on foreign nations to make. 390 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 5: Some of our critical stuff. 391 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 7: Now, Donald Trump does believe in trade, and I believe 392 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 7: in trade, but we believe in trade that's actually going 393 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 7: to benefit American workers, not destroy American jobs. So the 394 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 7: final point is, look, as you've seen on this campaign, 395 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: there have been a lot of outside groups who try 396 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 7: to claim that President Trump or I agree with every single. 397 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: Thing that they say. 398 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: President Trump speaks for himself and I speak for myself. 399 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 7: So don't necessarily assume that everything you're here written about 400 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 7: him or me is true. Obviously they lie about him 401 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 7: quite a bit, but he really does believe and frankly, 402 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 7: he's been right about this for forty years. 403 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 5: We have to make more of our own stuff. We 404 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: have to build more. 405 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 7: In America, and we need a corporate tax policy that 406 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 7: promotes that. And yeah, sometimes that does mean if you're 407 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 7: shipping jobs overseas, you're going to be penalized. 408 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: What are the if you're shipping jobs overseas, you're going 409 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: to be penalized? 410 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: Did you notice that? Now? 411 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: Jd Vance has also asked about tariffs and inflation. 412 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: Listen lies that they're telling about you that you don't 413 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: agree with. 414 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 7: Well, I think one of the things that says, for example, 415 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 7: about Donald Trump's economic policies is that somehow they're going 416 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 7: to jack up inflation, which is rich coming from Kamala Harris, 417 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 7: whose economic. 418 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 5: Policies have directly well not always right. 419 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: Let's just take theretionary or people aren't buying the products anymore. 420 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 5: Well, let's just take one example. So one of the class. 421 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 7: Examples that economists used to attack, or some economists should say, 422 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 7: used to attack Donald Trump's economic policies is the terriffs 423 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 7: that he imposed on washing machines and other dish dishwashers, sorry, 424 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 7: on dishwashers. 425 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: So they show. 426 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 7: A chart that says, well, look, a few months after 427 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 7: this tariff, the price of dishwashers went up a little bit, 428 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 7: but if you look over two years, actually the price 429 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 7: of dishwashers went down. You induced a lot of American 430 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 7: factories to invest in American workers in American made products, 431 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 7: and the price of dishwashers is actually lagged behind the 432 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 7: price of a lot of other home appliances. So sometimes 433 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 7: when you induce investment in capital formation in the United 434 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 7: States of America, it does lower prices on American workers. 435 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: And again the experience of Donald Trump's presidency, he was 436 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 7: president for four years, he did impose tariff sometimes to 437 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 7: induce more investment in American workers. 438 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: And what happened. We had one point five. 439 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 7: Percent inflation, rising take home pay, and the best economy 440 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 7: for workers. 441 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 5: In forty years then across the PLT cetera. 442 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 7: But when people say that Donald Trump is going to 443 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 7: destroy the economy, he was already the leader of the 444 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 7: American economy for four years. We had rising prosperity, broad 445 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 7: based middle class. 446 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: Wage growth centator. That is a record I'd like to 447 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 5: get back to. 448 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: It's a record I like to get back to. JD. 449 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: Vans finally saying this, if you want access to American markets, 450 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: you can't use Chinese slave labor to produce your products. 451 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: Listen, Senator, I think the question though on the tariffs, 452 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: and it's where Joe is going. Because they're across the 453 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: board and they're not as targeted. 454 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 5: It's unclear. 455 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: There are certain industries that unfortunately we don't have now. 456 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be great if our country were to invest in 457 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 3: some of these industries that we're not that we're missing 458 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: on the manufacturer side, But the amount of time may 459 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: very well take to quote unquote induce every every industry 460 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: to invest here to manufacture. That's the complication with the plan. 461 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: So when you see, for example, like a Goldman Sachs 462 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 3: report come out suggesting that this actually becomes it not 463 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: just a massive tax, but a massive drain on the economy, 464 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: what do you think? 465 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: And then just a. 466 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: Related question, because a lot of people have said this, 467 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: do you believe that the entire across the board tariff 468 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: would go into effect or is it a should we 469 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: think of it as some kind of negotiating cudgel if 470 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: you will with China for other things? 471 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I do think that it's negotiation. 472 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 7: Donald Trump is a negotiator. He believes in using tariffs 473 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 7: for negotiation, but he also does believe in using tariffs 474 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 7: to induce more manufacturing, more capital formation in our country. 475 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 7: But Aaron, the problem with the argument here is when 476 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 7: people say these tariffs are going to have an effect. 477 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 7: Donald Trump already imposed specific tariffs on specific industries. You 478 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 7: didn't see the negative consequences come to light. In fact, 479 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 7: what you saw was rising wages and rising. 480 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 5: Take home pay. 481 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 7: So when people say you can't do this in a 482 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 7: narrow way, you can't do it in a broad base way, 483 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: I just think that doesn't actually fit with reality. And 484 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 7: there's actually a deeper argument here that I think Donald 485 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 7: Trump really again understands and understood better than a lot 486 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 7: of people who said that somehow American prosperity was going 487 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 7: to come by shipping our steel into and our pharmaceutical 488 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 7: industry overseas. 489 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: They were wrong and he was right. 490 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 7: So maybe he's right about his policies and the effect 491 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 7: they're going to have on the future too. But one 492 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 7: of the critical conceits that our bipartisan consensus made over 493 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 7: the last forty years is that you could separate the 494 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 7: manufacture of things from the design of things. You open 495 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 7: up an iPhone and it says you know, I think 496 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: it says designed in Coupertino, California. The implication, of course 497 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 7: is that it's manufactured in Shinjin, China. But what we're 498 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 7: finding out is that the people who are manufacturing things, 499 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 7: they innovate, they become. 500 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: More productive, they develop the critical. 501 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 7: Skills necessary to get better at manufacturing, and then they 502 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 7: start designing the things too. If we're not doing enough 503 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 7: manufacturing our own country, we're going to lose our tech 504 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 7: edge and then we're going to be in a world 505 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 7: of hurts. So there's no critical difference good. 506 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: The flip side is it creates an export problem because 507 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: there will be retribution. I've got an emails even in 508 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: the past week from viewers of Squad who are farmers 509 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: in the Midwest who are worried, deeply worried that depending 510 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: on how these tariffs play out, that going to affect 511 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: them on the opposite end. 512 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, this actually highlights again we have to look 513 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 7: at experience versus some of these ridiculous predictions from people 514 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 7: who have an ax to grind against Donald Trump. I'm 515 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 7: of course not saying the farmers fall into that category, 516 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 7: but when did America for the first time, maybe in 517 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 7: our history become a net food importer, meaning we need 518 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 7: to take in more food than we produce ourselves twenty 519 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 7: twenty three, under the policies of Kamala Harris, when Donald 520 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 7: Trump was president and doing all these things that certain 521 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 7: pundits as say are going to lead to terrible outcomes, 522 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 7: what actually happened. America was a net food exporter. We 523 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 7: grew more of our food than we needed. That is 524 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 7: an important thing that we're One of the critical mistakes 525 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 7: that we made again is that we became dependent on 526 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 7: foreign nations for the goods that we need. Now we're 527 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 7: becoming dependent on foreign nations for the food that our 528 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 7: children need to eat. 529 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: This is insanity. We have to be self reliant. 530 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 7: We have the biggest economy in the world. Every business, 531 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 7: every foreign country, every competitor wants access to American markets. 532 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 7: If you want access to American markets, you can't use 533 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 7: Chinese slave labor to. 534 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 5: Produce your products. 535 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 7: You've got to be able to use American workers. And 536 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 7: that's the whole thrust of Donalds. 537 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: I think it's very interesting that. 538 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: This is how hard CNBC was on the policies of 539 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Trump and vance he was able to defend them explain 540 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: them talk about them. When was the last time you 541 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: heard that type of conversation at that level with anything 542 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris or Walt's campaign, ever, it doesn't exist. 543 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm glad they're challenging him. People have real questions 544 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: about tariffs and about the price of goods and the 545 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: price of rising goods. Like I mean it when I 546 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: say I'm glad that there's this level of debate. 547 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: This is an important. 548 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: Level of debate. It's a type of debate we should 549 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: have often. I'm glad that it was that law and 550 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: that thought out and that you know, it had to 551 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: be communicated in this way and debated. 552 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: We need more of this. 553 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: But where is this on the other side with Kamala 554 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Harris's campaign. I would love to play you a tape 555 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: of this type of conversation. It doesn't exist, and that 556 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: may be the biggest problem of all. White House on 557 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: Defense this morning is John Kirby Trash's friends on nine 558 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: to eleven in an email he accidentally sent to Fox 559 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: News Channel This coming from the White House National Security spokesman. 560 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: He was former Department of Defense spokemssman John Kirby trashing 561 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: a group of veterans in an email send an air 562 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: to Fox News on the anniversary of nine to eleven 563 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: terror attacks. As Fox News is reported, Kirby responded to 564 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: an email inquiry Fox about criticism criticisms by a veterans 565 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: group about the Biden administration's disastrous twenty twenty one withdrawal 566 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: from Afghanistan by accidentally hitting reply all before disparaging the 567 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: veterans quote. Obviously no use in responding a handful of vets, 568 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: indeed in all of one stripe, Kirby said in a 569 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: reply all email chained Wednesday afternoon that appeared to be 570 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: intended for White House staffers but also included Fox News Digital. 571 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Fox News Digital had reached out to the White House 572 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: earlier Wednesday afternoon regarding criticism and critical comments from four veterans, 573 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: including Representative Corey Mills, Republican from Florida, who blasted Kirby 574 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: for his Monday press conference that they said provided cover 575 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: for the Biden administration's twenty twenty one withdrawal. Kirby's message 576 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: was sent an air, with him following up with a 577 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Fox News Digital reporter saying this clearly, I didn't realize 578 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: you were on the chain. Kirby sent the email while 579 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: traveling with President Biden on the anniversary of nine to eleven. 580 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: On Monday, Kirby pushed back against the House Republican report 581 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: on the Afghanistan withdrawal by blaming former President Donald Trump for, 582 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: among other things, negotiating with the Taliban, ignoring the fact 583 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: that the talks of the Taliban actually began under the 584 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: Obama administration in Katar in twenty thirteen and Obama's second 585 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: term in office. Kirby retired by the way from the 586 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: US Navy as a rear admiral. He served as Pentagon 587 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: spokesman during the Afghan pullout, including the murder of the 588 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: thirteen US service members in the ISIS k tarr attack 589 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: on Abby Gate in August of twenty twenty one. So 590 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: if you want to know what these guys think about 591 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: people that disagree with him, even those that serve like 592 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: those in the military, now you know, because it was 593 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: an accidental reply all and Fox News was on the 594 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: reply all. 595 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: They basically say, screw. 596 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: You, like we don't respond to you, we don't care 597 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: the hell with you, like we're done with Like we're 598 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: done with you. That's how they look at veterans that 599 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: disagree with them. Now, if that's how they talk about 600 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: veterans that disagree with them on the anniversary of nine 601 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: to eleven, Okay, Like, if that's how they did it 602 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: on the anniversary of nine to eleven, Think what they 603 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: think about average Americans when you have problems or issues. 604 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty fair to to say. 605 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: Really, think about what it would look like if you 606 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: sent an email and was criticizing them, What they would 607 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: say about you, Because this is what they say about veterans, 608 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: This is what they say about people that fight, defend 609 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: and protect this country when they disagree with the Democratic Party. 610 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Make sure you share this podcast please with your family 611 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: and your friends, especially the story of Jocelyn. 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