1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. This is BP NFL, 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: it is b Joey b joe Pisipia. It's time to 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: look ahead to week eleven, the best bets we can 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: possibly make. Patrick mahomes as an underdog. I'm gonna be 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: on that yet again. And I am back and refreshed 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: from vacation. I haven't seen you too in a few days. Well, 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: actually that's not true. I so I Andrew Eric said yesterday. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: But Terrell Furman, I missed you so much. I hope 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: you had a wonderful week ten. I hope you missed me, buddy. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I know you've been busy with the NBA, but NFL 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: always has their attention. 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: No, I didn't, not at all. 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Oh how hurtful. Hurtful wise because no one held you accountable? 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I heard you on the meeting, 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: by the way, throwing out, yeah, I'm just busy whatever. 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: I was four and two last week. I was. I 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: was eleven and three last week, okay, including Monday night football. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: And I didn't say it on the meeting only because 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to blow up your spot. That's just 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: the truth. 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: No, No, what's the percentages of that who what's the 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: better for here? I might not have gotten that many bets, 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: but the percentage was pretty high. 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're splitting hairs here, and I don't 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: have many hairs left to split. Andrew Erickson, I know 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: we're looking ahead to this week and certainly a fun 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: week of games two a lot of big time games too, 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: kicking off with a Thursday night or two. So let's 29 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: get into it here, and let's begin. 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So I know a lot of 40 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: you out there might be waiting in fantasy a little bit, 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: and this is the time to really focus on your 42 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: betting because not only do we have amazing stuff left 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the NFL season, but we got the NFL playoffs at 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: the college football playoffs which are gonna be wild this year. 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of incredible stuff left to do. So ericson, 46 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: let's kick things off here. I'm going to start with 47 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: you here because I know you and Torell both have 48 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the same deal here today, which is you're talking about Browns, 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: so let's talk about it. 50 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: I think the Brown's going to win, That's what I think. 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 4: I think the Browns are going to beat the Dan 52 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: Rizzy led Saints because the dead cat bounce is not 53 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: going to last for more than a week. It's it's 54 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: going to kind of go from Dan Rizzy to Dan 55 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: Fizzy because it's going to fizzle out. That's what's going 56 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: to happen here. So I think that the process can 57 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: look at Derek Carr as a favorite. He is one 58 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: of the worst quarterbacks to back as a favorite thirty 59 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 4: six percent against the spread. And I really like the 60 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns defense in this spot. Even in their loss 61 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: the last time they played against the Los Angeles Chargers, 62 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: a lot of that came on blowing coverages, right, So 63 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: I think their defense is still one of the best 64 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: in the league. I think it's getting underrat I don't 65 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: think it's getting enough credit for what it's been able 66 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: to do against teams like the Cincinnati Bengals and like 67 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: the Eagles, like the Baltimore Ravens. They've slowed down those 68 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 4: offenses to some extent. And now they're facing Derek Carr 69 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: and the Saints, where the number one wide receiver is 70 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: Marquez Valdez scaling like that, Like that is the Saints 71 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 4: number one besides obviously some Hill and Alvin Kamara. So 72 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: I think the Browns defense not getting enough credit here. 73 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: So I like them going on the road to get 74 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 4: an upset win. Again, it's a close spread, but Jamis Winston, 75 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: you got the revenge game married if he's not afraid 76 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: to go into New Orleans and come away with when 77 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: he's he's he's that's where he's most comfortable eating W's 78 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: is in New Orleans in the Dome. So I like 79 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: Winston especially. Also like the Browns running game here. With 80 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: Nick Chubb off the bye week, I think that he's 81 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit healthier. And the Saints we've 82 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: seen a team that you can definitely run the ball on, 83 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: So I like the advantages kind of on all facets 84 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: from the Brown side of things. I just think you're 85 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 4: going to see the things regress to the mean a 86 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: little bit. With the Saints team after they had their 87 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: big win after the did they fire Dennis Allen Terrell? 88 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: How much do you want to hear Andrews a fishizzle 89 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: after he did what he did? At the beginning of 90 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: that Browns were just curious. 91 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 2: I actually could be a lot better if I never 92 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: heard him ever say it. 93 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of feel like we all 94 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: deserve it. H Terrell. They're going on the road, I 95 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: know they're coming off of by Andrew makes a lot 96 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: of good reasons why people should be on the Browns. 97 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: You we are also in the Cleveland Browns this week. 98 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I understand you get that one bounce after the coach 99 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: everybody knows is my favorite thing to bet, and I 100 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: bet at last week too, But but why doesn't an 101 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: extend this week? In your opinion? Why do you like 102 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: the Browns? 103 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: Also because if you don't remember, the Saints lost seven 104 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 2: straight games before that. They're a lot of good football teams. 105 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: They're legitly not straight. This team lost to the Panthers. Like, 106 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: there's only a few teams knew my New York Giants 107 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: included that can say they lost to the Panthers, Like 108 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: this team lost to the Panthers, and not only just 109 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: the Panthers, this is a Bryce Young led Panthers team. 110 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: You know they're again, only two teams can say they 111 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: lost to the Bryce Young led Panthers this season, and 112 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: the Saints are one of them. I backed them last week. 113 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: I backed the new head coach last week and all 114 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: that and the Falcons being a bad football team as 115 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: I knew they are. But this Saints team is horrible. 116 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: They're thirty first in rush. Dvoa Bijon in a loss 117 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: torched them for one to sixteen and two touchdowns. So yes, 118 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: you look at Nick Chubb his fourth game coming back 119 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: from injury. His look at his touches eleven team fifteen. 120 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: I think now coming off of a bye, more rest. 121 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: This is his fourth game, He's gonna start getting closer 122 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: to that twenty touch territory and this is where he 123 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: really starts to wear down a defense. Also, look at 124 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: the last five games Harner and forty one yards per 125 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: game giving up on the ground as twenty seventh in 126 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: the NFL. Two fifty three point seven yards per game 127 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: given up in the passing game. That is also twenty 128 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: seventh in the NFL. This Saints defense is horrible. They 129 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: trade away one of their best defenders and they're not 130 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: going anywhere fast. Meanwhile, this is the team that Jamis 131 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: would love to play against. A team that is bad 132 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: on defense and can't capitalize off of turnovers. That is 133 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: the perfect Jamis Winston defense to go against. Jameis Winston's 134 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: gonna have a great day. Piss on him in for 135 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: two point fifty two touchdowns in an interception easy. Jameis 136 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Winston has a day. He leads this team. I think 137 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: you can please this. If you sat here and told 138 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: me you were gonna take Brown's minus five minus six, 139 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: I would tell you that's a good deal. I don't 140 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: think the Saints are in this at all. 141 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: All right, So everybody's in on the Browns this week. 142 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's get to another one here. Let's talk about the 143 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Big match up here for them against the Ravens. 144 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: I know Andrew and I were talking about this earlier 145 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: on the look Ahead Show. We had a lot of 146 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: feelings about this where it doesn't feel like the same 147 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: sort of matchup that it might have in the past. 148 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: Were typically these play to the under when these two 149 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: teams match up, just the way the Ravens secondary is 150 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: played this year and also recently the way Russell Wilson 151 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: has really made a thing of George Pickens, and they 152 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: seem to be airing the ball out here a little 153 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: bit more aggressive in the passing attack. So, with all 154 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: that being said, in Pittsburgh, what do you think about 155 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Ravens in Week eleven? 156 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: So I think that you guys were on the right track. 157 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: You were looking at the wrong thing because this game 158 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: has been the same game four years. Mike Tomlin fifty 159 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: nine point eight percent EIGHTCS as a dog since two 160 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: thousand and eight. If you look at this game, this series, 161 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: just these series, Steelers versus the Ravens. Favorites of three 162 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: or more in this series are two eighteen and two 163 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: ats since two thousand and eight. Anytime they give anybody 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: any type of credibility in this series, their shot. Mike 165 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: Tomlin twenty two to ten and two as a divisional 166 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: dog in the AFC North, there's really nothing to talk 167 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: about here. I mean everything points to Tomlin. Hardball is 168 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: O ten and two against Tomlin as a favorite. Like 169 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: you have this defense that is absolutely playing lights out 170 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: right now and a Ravens defense that can't stop the 171 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: pass or anything. I think Pickens is gonna have a 172 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: good day. I think Mike Williams is gonna have another 173 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: good day and be able to get more than just 174 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: the one long bomb for a touchdown to win the game. 175 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: There's nothing to talk about. Lamar Jackson. Four games as 176 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: a starter versus Pittsburgh Steelers, He's won in three straight up, 177 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: throwing four touchdowns and seven interceptions. The Steelers have won 178 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: the last five meetings outright as a dog versus this team. 179 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: I believe in Tomlin. I am the Tomlin apologist. I 180 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: am the Tomlin degenerate. I am every thing. Mike Simon. 181 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Mike Simon is gonna go in here and he's gonna 182 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: show why you don't continue to make him a dog 183 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: at home. 184 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: So you think they cover, but you don't think they want. 185 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: They went out right. 186 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Why you think I got Steelers plus three? Here is 187 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: what you're. 188 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: Saying, Joe, Joe, I can put Steelers plus three. I 189 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: play all my dogs on the money line, because I 190 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: know you do. 191 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: That on principle. I know your principal, but I'm talking 192 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: about plus three, talking about what you believe here because 193 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: I think, honestly I understand your process. 194 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: They cover plus three if I think they're gonna win. 195 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: I think they cover plus three, So why would I 196 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: not put for sure? 197 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: That's fair enough. 198 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: I just want to go where everybody's I know, I 199 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: have a question ahead not not do this. Does Mike 200 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: Tomin win Coach of the Year? 201 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? 202 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Probably not? 203 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: Why no, He's never won it. He's never won it. 204 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell probably gets the one seed, And if the 205 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions get the one seed, then Dan Campbell's winning 206 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: coach of the year. I mean, the Detroit Lions didn't 207 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: win get a single game for a whole football season 208 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: like that happened. They did not win a single game 209 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: for a whole football season, and through the time they 210 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: finally found themselves a coach, and Dan Campbell somehow muscles 211 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: this team so number one in the NFC. I think 212 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna go to Dan Campbell if their number one, 213 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: But if they fall off, I think Tomlin is a 214 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: nice play. But I just don't think they're gonna give 215 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: it to Tomlin. 216 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I Torella is on that one if we're gonna talk. 217 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 4: But if the Steelers are the number two, I mean, 218 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: it's always about what the coach does with the least 219 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: him out. But he had no quarterbacks and then he 220 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: brought in fields one. 221 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick going for him. Everybody knows he's a great. 222 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: But he's never won the award though. 223 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: That's the thing that they all know he's a great coach. 224 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Win the award. 225 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the voter. I mean, I'm telling. 226 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: You there is no voter because. 227 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: I think he should win. 228 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 3: He's not. 229 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: After this quick break from Undisputed with and Uh and Andrew, 230 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm being he's number one of the board. Guys. Neither 231 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: of the guys you're talking about award guys, neither of 232 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: the one you're talking about is on the board. Dan 233 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Quinn is the number one guy on the board. 234 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, it's just got beat by Mike Thomins. 235 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins. But if he beats the Eagles, hold on. 236 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: It's like if he beats the Eagles and then he 237 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: goes on to actually win this division. Yeah, he's gonna 238 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: win this. 239 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: Award the Ravens to win the division and to beat 240 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 4: the Chiefs just seventeen. 241 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: And look, don't be surprised. Don't be surprised if you 242 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: know Jim Harball doesn't sneak in the back door of 243 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: this award either. If if the Chargers I think should 244 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: be in it soon. I'm just saying he's gonna be 245 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: in that conversation, all right. So we talked about the Steelers. 246 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: The one thing I hate talking about is the Miami Dolphins. 247 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Everyone knows they're dead. To me, I don't care. I 248 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: stay away from all the Dolphins. Uh. And I can 249 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: continue to do that, But Andrew Erickson, you might somehow 250 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: renew my faith maybe and getting involved in a Dolphins game. 251 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm gonna bet against the Dolphins. That's that's 252 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: what we do. 253 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: I'm going Raiders plus seven and a half. The Raiders 254 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: are team like, they're not great, but they somehow find 255 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 4: bays to cover spreads right, cover the spread. Eight of 256 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: their last thirteen games cover the spread, five of their 257 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: last eight road games, Miami ish to four. Actually, in 258 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: the last five home games, they have not covered a 259 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 4: single spread. So Miami, this team that's supposedly supposed to 260 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 4: play better at home. Whether it's been too whether it's 261 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: been some backup quarterback, it doesn't matter. They have failed 262 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: to hit the number that the sportsboks have laid out 263 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: for them. So it's funny because this matchup happened last 264 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: year too. The Raiders went on the road to play 265 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. They were thirteen and a half point 266 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: underdogs and they covered because they lost by a touchdown. 267 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: That Dolphins team was way better than this Raiders team 268 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: last year and they couldn't get it done there. So 269 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: I'm trying to look and see, you know, what's the difference, right? 270 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean, yes, the spread is a little bit tighter 271 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: this time, but it's still by a touchdown or more. 272 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: And in that game last year, first half it was 273 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: fourteen to thirteen in favor of Miami, so it was 274 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: a close game. 275 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: So I just don't. 276 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: See what's convincing me about Miami that this team is 277 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: so good this team should be favored by a touchdown 278 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: plus against any NFL team not named the Carolina Panthers. 279 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: So the Raiders have shown enough this year, coming off 280 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 4: a bye week again, going back to we had we 281 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: brought the sub last week when talking about the forty 282 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: nine ers, and had they made just any of those 283 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: field goals, they would have been covering that spread. Because 284 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: what you're looking at a team off a bye week, 285 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: which is the Las Vegas Raiders playing a team that's 286 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: playing off a Monday night football game, Like the rest 287 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: advantage is clearly in favor of the Las Vegas Raiders. 288 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: So I don't care that they're playing on the road. 289 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: I think this is just way too many points for 290 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: an overrated Dolphins team at home. Give me the Raiders, 291 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: all right. 292 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: Again. I have zero faith in the Miami Dolphins, but 293 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: the only thing maybe I have less faith in is 294 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders. 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Mac Jones is playing quarterback. 323 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: So what do you want to do this week? You 324 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: want to go ahead here and get onto the Detroit 325 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: Lions bandwagon, or you're just looking for a different way 326 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: to approach this game. 327 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm taking the over. 328 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm taking the over at forty six and a half 329 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: points because you pointed out, Joe, I got multiple outs here. 330 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: First of all, the Lions can just cover the spread 331 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: or they cover the total up by themselves, so I 332 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: don't even need Jacksonville to do anything. 333 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: And for the record, they would have last time against the. 334 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: Titans, so yeah, exactly. 335 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: So they put up fifty burger on the Tennessee Titans 336 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: at home in another favorable spot. So I mean Mac 337 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: Jones can just get ten points, like that's all I need. 338 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: That's all I need from Mac Jones and this Jaguars offense. 339 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: So I like the over here again, going back to 340 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: the trends at Ford Field, the Cores Field, of at 341 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: the NFI, I've never seen a total in Detroit that 342 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: I didn't like Benny over On as the undertaker. It's 343 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: very out of my character and personality, but I just 344 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: can't stop. I can't help myself from betting overs when 345 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: it comes to the Detroit Lions when they're playing at home. 346 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: Let's look last twenty three home games for the Detroit Lions. 347 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: The average fifty four and a half points. Seventy four 348 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: percent of the games have scored at least fifty one points. 349 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: We're getting a closing total that's forty six and a half. Yeah, 350 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: I get that it's the Jaguars, but we get the 351 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: Lions offense. 352 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: Again. 353 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: They covered this number by themselves the last time they 354 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: were this heavy as a favorite at home. So and 355 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: I think the Jaguars can at least do enough on offense. 356 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: You know, you get a pass interfew here there, you 357 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: run into the end zone, you get ten points, and 358 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: then we're cooking with gas. So Detroit's gonna put up 359 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: thirty plus at least. I think Jacksonville Jaguars can put 360 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: up ten, fourteen, whatever. So I'm going to take the 361 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: over here forty six and a half Lions and Jags. 362 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: So no concerns regarding the last time he saw Jared 363 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Goff throw on all those picks, right, that's just indistant 364 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: memory for you. 365 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: I mean that has to be the most outlier of 366 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: outlier games. I mean, he threw he had. 367 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: He was basically breaking every completion record leading up to 368 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: that game, and he had more interceptions in the Green 369 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: game than he did the entire season. 370 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: What was a hail Mary? 371 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not I agree. I'm with you. I'm just asking 372 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: the question. That's my job to ask the question. 373 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be swayed by a very outlier performance. 374 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure a lot of folks listening are thinking 375 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: about that. One game that I'm definitely in on as 376 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: well this week is Denver Broncos and Terrell. You and 377 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: I see this one the same. I know you've been 378 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: tough on the Falcons all year, and I thought so 379 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: hopefully so he's been honest. 380 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: I've been honest. I've been honest, very honest about where 381 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: the Falcons are this season. Have I been wrong? 382 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: But the Falcons this year not very often, not very often. 383 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: They're not good. They're they're not consistent, that's for sure. 384 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: No, they're not they and I think. 385 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: They might not be good, but they're probably gonna win 386 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: this division by default. So you're going to see them 387 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs whether you like it, and maybe you 388 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: don't like it. 389 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, Tampa Bay, I think can figure things out. Here. 390 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Once Mike Evans comes. 391 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Evans, that's a song. 392 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: Mike Evans is going to come back. 393 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: And next Mike Evans. 394 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Come back, will Mike Evans return, find out and lead 395 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks to a division title? 396 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: I mean the reason that the Bucks are in the 397 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: division because the Falcons are going to lose this game 398 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: and give them even Let's. 399 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Talk about Denver Broncos at home two and a half 400 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: point favorites. I agree with this line. I think it's correct. 401 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: I think that Denver actually wins this game pretty well 402 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: and handily. So how do you want to approach this 403 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: one and just going with the min two and a 404 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: half or do you want to tease it? Or are 405 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: you feeling like really strong about the Broncos or you 406 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: just want to play it safe with the two and 407 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: a half. 408 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: I'll take the two and a half, and I mean 409 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: if you if you please it, I mean we don't 410 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: even have to tease, like we don't tease through zero. 411 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: But if you want to please it up, then I 412 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: think that there's a chance that the Falcons are going 413 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: to look really really bad in this game because this 414 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos defense is legit. They very very smother. They 415 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: get to the quarterback. They're third in the league in sacks. 416 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: I think they're second overall in sacks per game, which 417 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: is really really killing my New York Giants to lead 418 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: the league in sacks prop by the way, because they're 419 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: right there on their heels. But and I think that 420 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: they're going to rack up a few here today with 421 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: the traffic Conan kirk Cousins playing quarterbacks. 422 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: So here we go. 423 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: They can't they can't stop the running the Falcons. They 424 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: give up one twenty nine point four rushing yards per game. 425 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: They they really are abysmal versus the past. And the 426 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: only thing, the only thing that could possibly help them 427 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: is if they got pressure to bow knicks and we're 428 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: able to force bow knicks in the bad throws. Well, 429 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: guess what. The Falcons can't get pressure. They can't get 430 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: to the quarterback. I mean, you're literally sitting there for five, six, seven, eight, 431 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: nine ten seconds and get whenevery chance you want to 432 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: go to football. So I think bo Nicks is gonna 433 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: look better than advertised today. And again this is somebody 434 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: who is not a bow Nick supporter. But yet I 435 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: keep backing this Broncos team because Sean Payton has them 436 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: playing really really good against the Falcons team that isn't 437 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: so it's very simple to me. I think this line 438 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: is way off. I think the Broncos is gonna go 439 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: in here, They're gonna win it. I'm not even gonna 440 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: sweat this. 441 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: All right, not even sweating it a little bit. All right, 442 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a game that I'm sweating, Toro, because 443 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I already spoke to Andrew. This game reeks the four 444 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: outcomes to me, and I don't like that. I look 445 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: at the Chargers and uh, Cincinnati Bengals, and I see 446 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: a universe where this is an ugly game. I see universe, well, 447 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: this is a high scoring game. I see a universe 448 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: where it's a one sided game on either side. That's 449 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: four outcomes. I hate that, don't care for it, don't 450 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: like it all. Don't trust the Cincinnati Bengals secondary. I 451 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: don't trust a lot of what I see sometimes in 452 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the Chargers offense. That being said, this is practically a 453 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: pick him. It's minus one and a half at home 454 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: for the Chargers. So what do you see in terms 455 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: of value that you are approaching in this one? And 456 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: where's your confidence level? Because it looks like you're on 457 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers this week. 458 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel perfectly fine about being the Chargers. I 459 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: am just out on the Cincinnati Bengals. I don't think 460 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: that they're that good of a team, honestly, And if 461 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: you don't have a defense that they can exploit, they're 462 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: not going to win games. They're not even going to 463 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: be in the games. I mean, they had every single opportunity, 464 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: every opportunity on Thursday Night Football. Given every opportunity and 465 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: every single chance that they gave the Ravens to be 466 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: in that game, they gave it to them big play 467 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: here or there, couldn't get a stop, trying to sit 468 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: there and go for a two point conversion, trying to 469 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: win the game. And don't get it, like, there was 470 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: so many opportunities for them to actually go out there 471 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: and win that game at six points Dogs, and they 472 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: just continue to fumble it away because they couldn't stop 473 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 2: anybody on defense. I think that this Chargers offense has 474 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: started to look a little bit better as the year 475 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: goes on, and the fact is, you don't have to 476 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: score many points. Your defense isn't giving up three touchdowns. 477 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: They haven't given up three touchdowns in a game all season. 478 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: The highest score that anybody has scored on this Chargers 479 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: team is twenty when Justin Fields did it, not even 480 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: Russ Justin Fields. I mean, come on, guys, I I 481 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: am so bought in on Jim Harbaugh just taking a 482 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: team that last year had the exact same pieces on it. 483 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Quentin Johnston is something somebody that people are 484 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: talking about in game plans now, like this is literally 485 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: a completely different Chargers team, and it's because of the 486 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: man at top. I think that they're gonna play well. 487 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: I think that Cincinnati is a dumpster fire and they're 488 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: probably gonna move on from their coach after this season, 489 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: so they're gonna lose this game. Give me Chargers laying 490 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: one and a half. 491 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: All right. So that's where Terrell's at right now. I 492 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna move on from their coach, though 493 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: they really played for Zach Taylor last year, especially when 494 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: things went down. I mean, I don't think it's the 495 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Zack Tayler problem. I think it's a general manager personnel problem. 496 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: They're not doing a good job of replacing guys like 497 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates and you know, all the pieces they've lost 498 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: in the secondary over the years like they have done 499 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: a good job of drafting and replacing those guys. 500 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: So, but you don't think Zach Taylor has anything anything. 501 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: It's a tough division coming in here. Here's where you 502 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: know that is a really tough division. Like let's say 503 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: even let's say Stefanski goes, which again I don't think 504 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: he should. I think Stefanski is a really good head coach. 505 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: I think Stefansk goes is in an impossible situation where 506 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: the organization is pressing him to continue to play Deshaun 507 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: Watson and there's just nothing you can do here. If 508 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: you if you dropped a capable quarter if you drop 509 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels all of a sudden as the rookie young 510 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: quarterback to Cleveland, we'd be talking about them as the 511 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: IT girl team of twenty twenty four. But that's not 512 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: the case. But if he's gone again, you're you're also 513 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: going into a division where you're looking up at the Ravens, 514 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: You're looking up the Steelers and either again that Cincinnati Bengals, 515 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: another team where has Joe Burrow on. It so tough 516 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: to come into a situation where you want to go 517 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: into that job. It's also tough to come into Cincinnati. 518 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I think even though you have the quarterback and Jamar 519 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Chase again, it's I think you stay with what you 520 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: got because there's gonna be a lot of coaching changes 521 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: this year and I don't know if you want to 522 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: get into that pool chasing one or two guys, it 523 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: actually might be good head coaches. That's my only thing 524 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: with that. Let's talk about the New Old Patriots. This 525 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: was my upset Special of the week before I went 526 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: on vacation. I went and I made mine with Andrew 527 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Rickson on the Monday Show and it was a New 528 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: England Patriots. And shout out to Seth who was filling 529 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: in for me last week, who nailed the upset special. 530 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Way to go, Seth, See that's what you do. He's 531 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: got a better percentage of met because he's batt in 532 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: a thousand this year. I've been rough on some of these, 533 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: but I did it the Patriots last week. Speaking of 534 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots, you're looking at the Patriots this week again. 535 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: This is a game that has a tough beat for 536 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: me on it. I don't love this one, but it's 537 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: the Rams and Patriots as one's in New England. I 538 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: desperately want them to not win any more games. Andrew, 539 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: That's where I'm staying. But what do you think about 540 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: this contest coming up this week in a week eleven 541 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: between the Rams, what you saw or what you didn't 542 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: see out of them on Monday night, and what you're 543 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: looking forward to with the new old Patriots going back 544 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: home conquering heroes. 545 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: I think this game goes over over forty three and 546 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: a half points, is my bet, Blake Swice, if you're okay, 547 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: I am okay. 548 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: I know there's two overs on this show. 549 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: She more than Swice. Joe does that we need to 550 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: send Ah, we need to go send somebody to make 551 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: sure everything's all idea over there, he bluting more than so. 552 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 4: I was very much humbled when the Commanders and Steelers 553 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: game totally just went over fifty points last week, when 554 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: I felt so confident that they was gonna go under, 555 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: even though Terrell, you were at the game, I need 556 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: it you were gonna make the game that much better. 557 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: But I'm looking at this particular matchup and I'm not 558 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: convinced in any way shape for this Patriots defense is 559 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: good again. They had nine sacks against the Bears. They 560 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: had sixteen sacks the nine games before then. This This 561 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: is a bad defense overall. And I get that the 562 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: Rams did not look great on Monday Night Football, but 563 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: they're still getting all their pieces back together. They had 564 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: two of their starters come back on the offensive line. 565 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: I think that those guys are gonna get more in 566 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 4: sync now that they're back fully into the starting line. 567 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes it takes a couple of weeks for those guys 568 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: get reacclimated to the starting lineup. So I am not 569 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: phased that I'm trying to not overreact to basically what 570 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 4: we saw from these two teams last week. I still 571 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: think the Patriots defense is really bad, and I think 572 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 4: that the Rams offense is still much better than what 573 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: they put on tape against the Miami Dolphins. So giving 574 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: that the game is at forty three and a half points, 575 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: it's already a low total. The Patriots are three and 576 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: one towards the over at home this season, averaging forty 577 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: four points per game. So even if you're just getting 578 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 4: an average matchup at Chalette Stadium, this game is going 579 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: over forty three and a half points. I don't think 580 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: the Patriots defense can stop the Rams. And one thing 581 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: that the Rams can do. Yes, they can generate pressure. 582 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: That means you're gonna just see a lot of big 583 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: throws from Drake may mak him plays with his legs 584 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: and that's how the Patriots moved the ball offensively. So 585 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: I think that this game goes over forty three and 586 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: a half. That's how I want to enjoy. The Patriots 587 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: are gonna lose, It's gonna be great, but they're gonna 588 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 4: go over the total and I'll be happy. 589 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: All right. The next thing we're all in on. It's 590 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: also my upset special in the week, So we're just 591 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk about it as a group. I mean, so 592 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: everybody's in. I was in on Monday Monday morning, I 593 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: gave you my monologue about all this, and I'm gonna 594 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: give you the shorter version right now. Patrick Mahomes as 595 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: an underdog is you know how you can put your 596 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: kids through college? Typically, that's just what it is. 597 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: Every single time they do get them to go undefeated. 598 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why they were ga for them to lose. 599 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: It was this game, right and they just they just 600 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: took it out the window. They just took it out 601 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: the window and one hundred pc. 602 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: They just had to do it. 603 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent. And this is the problem with 604 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: it right now, is because I agree one hundred percent 605 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: with you because they are a team where you can 606 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: nitpick some of the things and say maybe they're, you know, 607 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: the softest undefeated team you've seen. But again I keep 608 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: saying all these other things, which is they play defense. 609 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Specnol's a terrific defensive coach. Special teams rocks for them. 610 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: They have a quarterback who finds ways to win, and 611 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: now he's got a wide receiver. He's starting to get 612 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: comfortable throwing the football too with Hopkins. Right, so we're 613 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: getting check go back, not this week, but it's coming. 614 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: You just coming back, you know, yeah. 615 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Right. So the Chiefs continue to play good football and 616 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: find good ways to win football games, and this is 617 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: a game that is going to be a challenge for them. 618 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: But just like in the playoffs last year when Uncle 619 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Joey told you every single week, if you're not betting 620 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of the underdog, I don't know, I don't 621 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: know what you've been watching. I don't know how you 622 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: figured this out. I mean, this is just very simple 623 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: stuff and if it fails, it fails. But it hasn't 624 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: failed me yet in my years of betting, So I'm 625 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: just gonna continue to do this, which is, you see 626 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in the undrug, you bet the money line, 627 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: and you just walk away from it. Terrell, I know 628 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: you've got feelings about this too. Let's hear what you 629 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: have to say, because you obviously see this one the 630 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: same way I did. 631 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: Twelve one and one ats Patrick Mahomes as a dog. 632 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean, twelve one in one. I don't know. I 633 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: don't know what else to tell you here. I mean, 634 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 2: and then let's just take all of that out of 635 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: the equation. You're taking Patrick Mahomes, one of the best 636 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks all time, and you're putting up against a defense 637 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: that is twentieth in the league in reception yards per 638 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: game allowed. They are abysmal against the run, giving up 639 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three point two rushing yards per game. 640 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: You're you have Kareem Hunt. You have a team that 641 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: can either do two things. They can either protect the football, 642 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: run the clock out, put a touchdown on the board 643 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: and beat you ugly, or Patrick Mahomes can just turn 644 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: into a madman in the fourth quarter and say we're 645 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: not losing this game. It doesn't matter. Yep, We're not 646 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: losing this game. They had every opportunity to lose that 647 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: game last week, and special teams stuck up for him, 648 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: like you can say what you want. This is an 649 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: undefeated team that continues to find ways to win, and 650 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: they just woke up on Monday morning after getting a 651 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: blocked against a division foe for a win and saw 652 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: that they were underdogs as an undefeated team. Oh this 653 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: is I mean, they just want them to go undefeated, 654 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: and I'm perfectly fine as president of the Patrick Mahomes 655 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: Fan Club. Take the points, play the money line to everything. 656 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: This is Patrick Mahomes. A is a dog and he's 657 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: gonna handle business. 658 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: Yep. Uh ericson anything to add I know you and 659 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: I had this conversation earlier, but anything you want to 660 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: piggyback on top of what Terrell just said. 661 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: Uh No, I mean I pushed back a little bit 662 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: on Monday thinking about it, Oh maybe this is this, and. 663 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: Then I just kind of was like, now I'm not 664 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: knocking over think this. 665 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna just said I'm gonna sleep better and 666 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: I am gonna enjoy Sunday more if I just I mean, 667 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 4: the worst way to enjoy Sunday is just beat against 668 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: chefs right now, Like that's how you that's how you 669 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: least enjoy your Sunday at football is just betting against 670 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, bett against Patrick Holmes. If anything, what I 671 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: would say to you is, if you want to get 672 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: a better payout, a better number, wait for the Chiefs 673 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: to be down ten nothing. There you go and then 674 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: throw money and then throw money on the money line 675 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: because you know they're going to come back and win 676 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: the game. So if you're again, this is a fun 677 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: game to watch. A live betting opportunity I think is 678 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 4: going to be here for the Chiefs especially. It's one 679 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: of those things where it's like you're like waiting for 680 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: them to go down ten to nothing, seven to nothing, 681 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: and then you strike on the money line. You're going 682 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 4: to get a nice hefty payout. I will say one 683 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: thing looking ahead again, and I'm talking to someone from 684 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: the president of the Patrick Mahomes Club for trel Furman, 685 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 4: I'm having trouble coming to grips with reality where Joe, 686 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: obviously I'm belief that the Patriots have had the greatest 687 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: dynasty in NFL football, But if the Chiefs do the 688 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: two things in this year that the Patriots were not 689 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: able to do number one going to feed it and 690 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: number two three peat, then that's over because those are 691 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: the two things the Patriots dynasty could not do. They 692 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: cannot repeat and you're not going to feed and right 693 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: now the Chiefs could do both. 694 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: What's so interesting about the Patriots dynasty is that had 695 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: two different legs to it. It had such a low, long, 696 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, breath here where you're talking about a twenty 697 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: year span basically, and that's that's ridiculous, especially in the 698 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: salary cap era. But I think if you wanted to 699 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: then argue that other side of it and say, well, 700 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: they did those two things that Patriots didn't do, the 701 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: three peat, which is no one's ever done. And then 702 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna go undefeated. I'm looking 703 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: at the schedule and I think there's some trap games 704 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: in there for them where things are not gonna go 705 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: their way. And I think it's good. I don't think 706 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: going undefeated is a good thing. I think mentally it 707 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: wears on everybody. And I don't know if this team, 708 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: the way it's constructed, is built to handle that load. 709 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: As good as the quarterback is, as gray as the coaches, 710 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and so New England have problems with it, but it's 711 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: certainly in that conversation, and I want to go ahead. 712 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: And Andrew's approach is a really good one too. We're 713 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: all betting the Chiefs on the money line, so bet 714 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: it with us together. If it fails, it fails, that's fine. 715 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Let's all, you know, bet the Chiefs also with the points. 716 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: But also, let's take this. Let's take the Cleveland Browns 717 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: money line that the boys like so much, Let's take 718 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: the Kansas Chiefs money line that we like so much, 719 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: and let's take the short lines. To just win this 720 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: football game. Just win this football game. All you gotta 721 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: do is win. And I'm pretty confident they're gonna win 722 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: at home against mac Jones. There minus nine to fifty 723 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: to just win Lions. 724 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm curious Brown pay chefs. 725 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Money like wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, 726 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. This is the parlay of the week. 727 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs to win, Lions to win, Browns to win plus 728 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: three fifty five. Now here's what I will say. If 729 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: you take the same thing and put the Lions to 730 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: cover their thirteen or thirteen and a half, you get 731 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: this one up to plus six fifty five, so that 732 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: is also super fun. If you want to do one 733 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: or both. Go ahead, Torell, what did you want? 734 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: I was just curious what it paid if you didn't 735 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: have a minus nine to fifty money line in there. 736 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Well that there was. I knew you. I had it 737 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: all ready. 738 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: To go, because it's a lot it's gonna hit. 739 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's it's if you want to take 740 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Ericson's over of the forty six, if you just want 741 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: to do what I want to do, we just take 742 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: the thirteen and a half. You're getting a six seven 743 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: and a half territory with that. That's where you're getting. 744 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: So I know how Terrell thinks. I was prepared for 745 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: that question before you even asked that question, because I 746 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: know where my man thinks, because we've been doing this 747 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks now, a couple months now, 748 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: and it's been a good time. So there you have it. 749 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: That's what Week eleven looks like. Download the Betting Pros app, 750 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: subscribe to the channel, Subscribe to Betting Pros wherever you 751 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. This is not undisputed. This is just 752 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: the best bets for a week eleven. We are much 753 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: more friendly and fun here, Yeah, much more friendly. We 754 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: like each other a lot more and we're gonna keep 755 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: doing this all the way through the playoffs. So make 756 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: sure you're with us here on the YouTube channel. Subscribe, 757 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: dropp your comments below. We got that Mike Evans giveaways 758 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: still going on here. Lots of fun stuff, So sink 759 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: your sportsbook, download the app, subscribe to the channel, and 760 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: hang out with us and enjoy Sunday. It's gonna be 761 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: a wild one. That'll do it for us, but the 762 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: story of the game goes on for Terrell Firman and 763 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson. I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. 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