WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Team Effort? 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:04.720 The following. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.720 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.480 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.440 Cowboys. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:18.840 This he's Talking Cowboys, raining live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.119 worlds at. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:28.080 The Star in Frisco's Kitsontown. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.080 Welcome to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee, the 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.760 official coffee sponsor of the Dallas Cowboys. We are live 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:42.240 from the Star in Frisco. Here in the SWBC podcast studio, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.600 here with Isaiah stand back here with John Machoda. I 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.440 am Josh Rodriguez filling in for Kyle Yeomans who's out. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.479 And also Nick Harris is not here today. What I 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.920 don't know the heck. He just decided to do twenty 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.880 hours of radio over the weekend and then like not 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:56.600 come back. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.040 How dare you? How dare He sent him some tea? 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.760 But uh uh it is uh the draft is over, guys. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.960 We actually have our twenty twenty four Dallas Cowboys draft 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.480 class lots to discuss there. We got Zeke to discuss. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:13.400 So how are we feeling? 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.120 Guys? I was gonna ask you the same question, how 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.279 am I feeling? How are you feeling? 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.560 I'm cautiously optimistic cautiously optimist. Cautiously optimistic. I think it's 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.040 a well let's get into it, let's do it. Let's 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:25.720 get into it right. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.640 And that is a nice hoodie by the way. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.160 Oh, thank John, How I'm good. I'm good. I was 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.440 a little disappointed that Nixt not here. I wanted to 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.880 give him some props for how good of a job 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:35.520 I thought that they. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.880 Did incredible, really good. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye. It's funny because we are in 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.960 a media workroom on the other side of the building. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.280 Why the draft's going on, all the other reporters and 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.400 being around anybody for that, especially that entire Saturday, like yeah, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.080 and get annoying. And you can at least get out 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.240 of the room and walk around. But if you're in 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.840 the draft show, you got to go. You know, you 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.639 got it. You have to be there for all the picks, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.400 and that that day can be a real, a real workout. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.760 So I don't I don't envy them on that Saturday. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.840 No, And if you're watching, they're eating between they just trying. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.200 To do standing up, trying to walk around and stuff exactly. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.160 Yeah, yeah, but shots of them and then also Chris 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:12.799 Beam in the back. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.520 From oh yeah, everything you guys did a great Jobamer. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.080 Rolling all that beautiful beam footage try. Yeah, he did 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.440 a great job, and Jazz as well. I mean, they 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:22.280 just just killed it. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.200 I think. You know, Beamer has to do work for 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:25.320 every single pick. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.000 Yeah, oh yeah, that's crazy, every single one. Dude's killing it. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.519 Yeah, on the daily and they had and you guys 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.840 had a lot of good stuff with Saturday morning before 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.880 day three started, uh, with a lot of the members 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.799 of the scouting staff in here talking about some of 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.200 the picks and something. A lot of a lot of 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.040 great content. Yeah, I mean, but the Draft shows it's 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.880 always been great, so I know I'm not saying anything 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.480 new to anybody that's watched it, but yeah, they did 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:49.359 a great job this year. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.200 Of course, of course. And it's funny like, even before 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.720 I was even working here, my favorite thing to do 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.480 was to listen to the Draft Show. Like, not even 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.760 like a Homer take or anything like that. I would 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.360 genuinely take my whole weekend and listen to all of 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.240 the content. I would just drive around and listen to 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.400 the Draft Show, especially Dallascawis dot Com. No commercials, you know, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:08.920 it was great. I loved it. And then to be 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.240 kind of behind the scenes watching it. You know how 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.600 the sausage is made. Loved it, man, Yeah, it's a 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.560 great experience. Isaiah's bored with me. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:16.840 Let's get to it. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:17.639 Let's get to the draft. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.200 Gilling my lungs with oxygen exactly, all right? 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.600 So round one, pick twenty nine, Tyler Guidon, offensive tackle 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.720 from Oklahoma, Round two, Marshawn Neeland defensive end, Western Michigan. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.600 Round three, Cooper beb offensive line, Kansas State. Yeah, we 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.520 like that one. Then we had Maris Lufoul linebacker notre 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.880 team with in the third round, Caitlin Carson cornerback Wake 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.200 Forest in the fifth round, of Ryan florinoy wide receiver 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:49.800 Southeast Missouri State sixth round. Then Nathan Thomas offensive tackle 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.839 Louisyanna Lafayette in the seventh round, and then finally Justin 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.160 Rodgers defensive tackle tackle from Auburn in the seventh round, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.280 two hundred and forty fourth pick. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:00.840 So that is our. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.440 Rookie class, Gretz, I don't want you guys to grade this. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.120 I hate grading classes. How do we feel? 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:13.080 Just a gut feeling, I honestly feel while I was 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.520 watching it, Okay, I was actually at a former NFL 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.560 players event put on by an NFL PA, and I 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.600 was watching it. They were talking, but I'm literally watching 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.520 the screen the whole time because I'm interested in what's 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:22.960 going on. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.760 And I am relatively proud about what the Cowboys did, I. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:33.000 Especially the consciously optimistic Relatively, I'm. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.600 Relatively proud because. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.360 I'm I'm proud of the fact that they moved back 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:38.520 and acquired what they needed. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.560 Absolutely, did they. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.760 Miss out on somebody who could have came in and 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.719 had an immediate impact. Absolutely, Absolutely, everybody knows that that 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.680 was the pick. But they went back and got a 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.720 third and I think that was huge. And I think 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.919 the conversations were having, you know, former players. You know, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.360 guys have their opinions, very opinionated, and I'm like, there's 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.080 not enough cash. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.360 There's not enough cash. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.120 You go get who you want on the open market, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.719 and you've missed the major wave of that. Anyways, you 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.960 have to acquire picks. So for them to actually acknowledge that, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.880 I feel like they are really facing themselves in the 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.680 mirror and making some very sound and mature decisions this 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.720 year in regards to the organization as a whole and 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.000 moving back and acquiring another pick and the third was 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.520 huge for them, and then I think they got they 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.240 addressed some of their needs. Going into this draft, we 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.000 knew they weren't going to be able to address every 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.520 single hole. There was twenty gaps, but I think they 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.320 did a good job of saying, Okay, you know what, 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.200 we can't address everything, but let's at least feel really 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.960 good about one about one aspect of our team, and 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:39.800 that was the offensive line. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.960 And I'm very proud that they did that. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.200 I would I'm just telling some friends this the other day, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.400 even before the draft starts, I don't even need to 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.800 know which players are out there. If you tell me 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.120 that my team has the twenty fourth pick in the draft, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.840 and before the draft even starts, you go, well, I'm 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.640 gonna move you back to twenty nine, but I'm gonna 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.560 also give you an early third. I really don't even 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.080 need to know out there. I think I'm taking it 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.480 every time. And so for them to get on the 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.159 clock and make that move, they could easily taken Tyler 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.880 Guyton at twenty four and people have been like, yeah, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.600 it makes sense. He was the next best offensive tackle 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.040 on the board. I think Graham Barton is probably the 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.440 one across the board. More people would have the higher 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.159 great on cleaner prospect probably steps in right away and 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.719 are less question marks. But you could easily have taken 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.480 guit In there. But then to move back to twenty 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.800 nine and then get that early third and to use 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.320 it on a guy like Cooper Bebe who he could 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.120 be your center if that doesn't work out, he could 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.760 be Zach Martin's air parent at right guard. And then 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.040 so that was the other part of it, because I 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.120 look at twenty fourteen draft class with Zach Martin to 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.400 Marcus Lawrence, they both are entering the final years of 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.200 their contracts. Hey, I'm not saying this their final year 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.400 with the Cowboys, but it might be. And if it is, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.279 you with BB with Kneeland in the second round, you've 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.960 addressed guys that, hey, we have to get more depth, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.080 we have to get talent at those positions because we 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.120 could have some serious holes there the following year. In 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.320 that being said, the one part that I did like 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.440 is just the running back thing, because I felt like, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.080 I don't just judge it off of this draft class. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.599 I judge off the last two and for you not 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.600 to get a running back in the second, third, fourth, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.360 fifth round each of these past two drafts. I just 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.680 see it. As you know, after the draft, they talk 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.200 about how like, well, you know, when we got on 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.040 the board, there just wasn't there wasn't a running back 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.760 there that we like more than the player we drafted, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.400 And I get that, but also it shows you how 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.320 you value the running back position, and I just I'm 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.160 getting the feeling about running back the same way I 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.320 felt about this team for a while that safety, where 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.680 it was like not only were they not really interested 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.040 in doing much at safety, it was like nobody in 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.080 the league was doing less at safety than the Cowboys. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.800 And that's kind of where they've gotten with running back. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.680 But as Jerry mentioned after the draft, I don't think 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.240 that they're done at running back. It's one of those 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.840 things where they could go into the season and if 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.800 no one's really emerging, they their hand could be forced 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.240 ray to make a move, kind of like they did 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.440 for a Marii Cooper in twenty nineteen. The only thing is, though, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:57.920 is that you're not gonna have to give up a 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.720 one to get a veteran running back from another team. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.160 That's the one thing. Much like safety, if you're going 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.880 to devalue certain positions. I get it because of the 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.000 way the market is at them. But it's one of 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.240 those things where I didn't expect them to do much, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.560 but I expected them to do more than where we 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.080 sit today. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.840 But I think it's without that fourth round pick. I 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.440 think that was really it. That's when you saw those 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:17.840 running backs flying off the board. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.280 Makes me think even if they had the fourth round 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.000 or they weren't taking a running back, really yeah, I 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.640 think they would have. I think of no matter if 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.160 you if you devalue the position to a certain extent, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.320 I think that you can talk yourself out of anything 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.360 if you can talk yourself into another player there. There 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.440 could have been another offensive lineman there. They talk ab 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.400 outgrade the offensive line classes. You could have taken a 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.400 defensive tackle there, could have taken a corner maybe early 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.040 earlier than yeah earlier. Yeah, right, So I think that 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.640 they could have talked themselves out of any of those 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.240 those I don't think they loved any of them, to 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:45.320 be honest with you, I don't think they loved any 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.520 of the running backs last year either. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.440 Well, and you also have to think that the Zekil 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.720 Elliott talk was pretty prominent. Before the draft even started, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.160 and I think that was sort of the writing on 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.440 the wall. Yeah, even coming out of the draft. Even 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.120 Jor Jones even said that, I think in the first 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.880 presser after they picked Tyler Gotten was that very much 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.960 he thinks Zeke is still a starter in the NFL. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.760 So I think the running was on the wall even 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.880 before the draft. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.160 For sure. But I just think that there's a decent 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.640 chance that I'm not gonna say it's less than fifty percent, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.440 but there's there's somewhat of a chance that the leading 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.480 rusher for the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty four still 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:17.200 is even on the roster. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:17.480 Yet. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.040 I think that's fair. And he even said in the 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.400 draft sort of post mortem, was that, you know, he's 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.200 seen teams that have won the Super Bowl that have 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.760 shoed for a running back mid season. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.520 I mean, heck, you just look at the teams that 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.400 won Super Bowl the last few years. I mean, the 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.319 Chiefs have got it done with a late round pick, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.040 and but checko, you look at that Rams team they 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.360 had Sony Michelle and Cam Akers and then the year 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.600 before that one or maybe you gotta go two years 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.240 to go to twenty twenty with the with the Patriot, 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.040 I mean, I'm sorry. With the Bucks, they signed Leonard 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.480 Fournette like in September, right before that season started, and 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.440 he ended up being there. I mean, he was a 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.200 really good piece for that team. So I think there 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.000 could still be some moving pieces at running back. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.600 I'm not tripping on the running back no, like I'm 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.520 really because it goes back to what I've always stated. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.120 If you have a beast of an offensive line, most 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.080 running backs are fully capable of running where they're supposed 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:10.280 to go. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:10.920 Right. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.480 There's not you could probably name on one hand in 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:19.480 the league. Now, how many running backs are creators? Honest, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.360 I mean it's a short list off. How many guys 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.280 are like actual creatives. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.680 That you Any of those guys that you name, those 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.600 are significant investments, whether it be through free agency or draft. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.520 Yeah, and guys, most guys most teams have a two 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.320 headed monster, right, So they're not they're not relying on 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.200 one on one running back, so you're gonna have to 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.600 have a tandem. And usually even that primary guy, again, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.200 he's not a creator type back. He's just he's just 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.640 a tried and true back that just knows how to 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.200 follow his blockers. And I think if you invest in 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.960 your offensive line, like the Cowboys seemingly are now getting 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.320 back to right, and you can play some bully ball. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:54.160 Let's just imagine. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.720 I'm hopeful that Cooper b B play center. I'm hoping 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.440 that he can learn how to snap the ball and 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.200 have a shotgun snap because if he does, then you 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.040 have you got some beef up front. You have some 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.200 beef up from it. Those three in the middle, it's 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.959 like the dog on flying v Tyler Smith, Cooverer, bebe 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.240 Right and and freaking big Zach. Like, if you can 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.520 have those three going forward okay and moving guys off 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.400 the ball, you anybody could run behind office lineman that 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.079 can move guys to the second level. So it's that's 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.800 why I believe that the running back position is being 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.440 the value because you're seeing less guys who have the 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.000 ability to be a Sakwan. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.600 To be a Josh Jacobs, to be those. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.000 Dual threat you know, running backs that can really create. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.559 And the only reason why King Henry is getting paid 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.160 what he's getting paid because he's just mammoth right. But 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.600 think about how many other running backs are true creators. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.400 Aaron Jones was freaking balling still and guess what he 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:42.840 got cut. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.560 Yeah, I mean I think of b Jeon Robinson, but again, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.680 b Jon Robinson. You got to spend a very high 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.200 pick to get Bjeon Robinson. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:51.960 There might there might be there might be a list 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.600 of six meet maybe Yeah, guys that you think of that, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.720 like you know what, like by himself, like you better, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.600 you better be concerned about what he can do to. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:01.440 You by himself. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.680 Would you say Saquan is one of those? Absolutely, but 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.280 he's getting paid twenty seven million. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.040 Side of that, every other team is accompanying their primary 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.760 back with somebody else and they're not just absolute dogs 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:15.640 at the position. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.760 It's not the disrespect the position at all. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.120 I'm just saying, if you're not making guys miss, if 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.280 you're not making that first guy miss, then you're pretty 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.319 much like most backs, as long as you're not fooling 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.439 the ball, right. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.000 I think when the final numbers come out on that 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.640 Zeke deal, it's not gonna be close to three. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.400 No, it's too guaranteed incentives. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.480 Just waiting to real but those come out. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:35.319 Yeah, okay, gotcha. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:36.840 Yeah, I don't know that it's going to be something 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.360 where they're not spending significantly on Ezekiel Eliot. Now they 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.079 still do have I think it's six in dad cap 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.120 off of his previous contract or whatever. But I think 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.920 on the new deal it's nothing. But that doesn't fact 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.720 that it's nothing significant. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:49.080 Yeah. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.760 No, well, I kind of wanted to get into the 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.880 Zeke of it all. I mean, what was kind of 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.760 I guess we knew question mark yit. Yeah, going into 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.040 the draft that this is going to be sort of 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.400 the situation regardless if they picked a running back in 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.640 the later rounds, fourth, fifth, sixth. I mean, obviously we 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.800 didn't have a fourth. But do we think that Zeke 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.920 is gonna sort of supplement the run game or are 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:14.760 we expecting you know, vintage Zeke. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.480 No supplement, definitely a supplement. I mean, you look at it. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.360 I mean it's unfortunate all these stats now are available 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.000 and his numbers have literally rescinded every single year, right, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.600 So I mean now that someone has utilization exactly right, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.080 So some of that's unfair. That's why I don't like 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.559 just looking purely at stats. But the reality is he's 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.920 towards the in the latter half of his career. You know, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.960 you have complimentary backs here, you have Rico, you got Royce, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.760 you got you got Zeke, and you got Deuce. And 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.160 again I'm still the jury's kind of out on Deuce 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.400 still for me, just because. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.360 Of what he can provide in other aspects of the game. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.200 But I'm I don't feel bad if you go into 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.480 the season with those three at running back. I truly don't, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.880 because again, what are you looking to do? What is 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.400 your system to do? Is your system made for splash plays? 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.920 Is your system made just to simply move the chains? 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.720 If your system's made to simply just play bully ball? 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.280 I like that three headed monster. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.040 So if this was the roster and they're playing on 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.560 Sunday when the game's over, who do you think got 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:15.319 the most carries? 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:15.839 Royce? 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.920 And how many you think like ten? 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:18.440 Thirteen? 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.520 Oh okay, yeah, if. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.000 That I mean, I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.600 I mean, again, you can rotate those guys through and 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.720 you're probably gonna get the same productivity out of all 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.960 of them because they're they're all powerful backs, they all 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.920 run downhill, they're all one cut guys. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.960 Like they're the same type of back. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.720 That's not the same that they're the exact same player, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.240 but their styles are similar. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.000 Their styles are very similar. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.000 And if you're gonna have and they all have the 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.360 ability to block, right, if you're gonna be back there 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:44.800 throwing a rock, they all have the ability to block. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:45.120 Stutup. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.880 I'm thinking, I'm truly starting to see that these guys 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:48.960 want to just go downhill. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.960 Yeah, Like that's what I'm That's what it's coming to. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.560 I'm interested to see when they run out there the 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.240 first time with the ones out knocks nerd. I just 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:58.840 I find it hearted believe that Zeke ain't gonna be 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.960 out there at running back with the one. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:01.120 No. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.120 I think he starts for sure. Yeah, but I think it, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:04.760 like you're saying, it is a sort of running back 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:09.080 by committee. And I feel much more confident in a 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.240 running back by committee than I ever did the wide 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.120 receiver by committee. You know that we were trying to 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.280 do for a while there that season that we traded 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.840 for Mark Cooper. But it just kind of I think 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.800 a big part of it is that you totally retooled 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.800 and redefined what our offensive line is with the twenty 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.720 fourth pick in the NFL draft, Like you you turn 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.520 that into two picks, You turned that into Tyler Rutton 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.400 and Cooper Beb. I think huge the offensive line, the 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.360 new look offensive line is going to be They're gonna 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.720 mall I mean, and it will show no matter who 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:39.120 is running. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.240 It's an attitude change. It truly is an attitude change. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.160 And I love it. Yeah, I love the. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.160 Fact that there's an attitude two change there. I love 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:47.960 Tyler Biadis, but I never felt like he had the 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.400 nasty I mean, I think I thought he was a 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.680 good player. I always was on record saying that I 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.280 thought he was undersized, that he didn't have necessarily strength 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.760 to move the big boys off the ball. And I didn't. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.000 I never got the sense that he had that nastiness 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.400 to them. Yeah, you know, Cooper BB does Cooper Bean. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.640 If you can snap the ball, then you know that 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.840 you got Tyler Smith who's nasty. You know Zach's nasty. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.160 So again, if you can spearhead the middle of your 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.000 offensive line with three nasty casts that can move everybody 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.880 off the ball, that's dangerous, regardless of who's behind you. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.760 And that's what I'm saying, Like, I'm less concerned about 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.640 who's tode in the rock as long as they don't 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:21.520 put the ball on the ground. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.760 I'm not big on the whole drafting for one season, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.440 so I love the picks just because, like I said, 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.720 the Scoober BB thing could totally not work out at center. Yeah, 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.280 and I still think you have a really good guard 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.320