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Speaker 3: from the Star in Frisco. Here in the SWBC podcast studio,

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Speaker 3: here with Isaiah stand back here with John Machoda. I

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Speaker 3: am Josh Rodriguez filling in for Kyle Yeomans who's out.

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Speaker 3: And also Nick Harris is not here today. What I

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Speaker 3: don't know the heck. He just decided to do twenty

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Speaker 3: hours of radio over the weekend and then like not

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Speaker 3: come back.

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Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare He sent him some tea?

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Speaker 3: But uh uh it is uh the draft is over, guys.

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Speaker 3: We actually have our twenty twenty four Dallas Cowboys draft

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Speaker 3: class lots to discuss there. We got Zeke to discuss.

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Speaker 3: So how are we feeling?

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Speaker 1: Guys? I was gonna ask you the same question, how

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Speaker 1: am I feeling? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I'm cautiously optimistic cautiously optimist. Cautiously optimistic. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a well let's get into it, let's do it. Let's

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Speaker 3: get into it right.

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Speaker 1: And that is a nice hoodie by the way.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank John, How I'm good. I'm good. I was

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Speaker 5: a little disappointed that Nixt not here. I wanted to

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Speaker 5: give him some props for how good of a job

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Speaker 5: I thought that they.

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Speaker 3: Did incredible, really good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye. It's funny because we are in

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Speaker 5: a media workroom on the other side of the building.

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Speaker 5: Why the draft's going on, all the other reporters and

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Speaker 5: being around anybody for that, especially that entire Saturday, like yeah,

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Speaker 5: and get annoying. And you can at least get out

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Speaker 5: of the room and walk around. But if you're in

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Speaker 5: the draft show, you got to go. You know, you

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Speaker 5: got it. You have to be there for all the picks,

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Speaker 5: and that that day can be a real, a real workout.

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Speaker 5: So I don't I don't envy them on that Saturday.

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Speaker 3: No, And if you're watching, they're eating between they just trying.

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Speaker 5: To do standing up, trying to walk around and stuff exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but shots of them and then also Chris

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Speaker 3: Beam in the back.

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Speaker 5: From oh yeah, everything you guys did a great Jobamer.

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Speaker 3: Rolling all that beautiful beam footage try. Yeah, he did

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Speaker 3: a great job, and Jazz as well. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: I think. You know, Beamer has to do work for

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Speaker 1: every single pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's crazy, every single one. Dude's killing it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, on the daily and they had and you guys

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Speaker 5: had a lot of good stuff with Saturday morning before

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Speaker 5: day three started, uh, with a lot of the members

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Speaker 5: of the scouting staff in here talking about some of

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Speaker 5: the picks and something. A lot of a lot of

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Speaker 5: great content. Yeah, I mean, but the Draft shows it's

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Speaker 5: always been great, so I know I'm not saying anything

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Speaker 5: new to anybody that's watched it, but yeah, they did

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Speaker 5: a great job this year.

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course. And it's funny like, even before

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Speaker 3: I was even working here, my favorite thing to do

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Speaker 3: was to listen to the Draft Show. Like, not even

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Speaker 3: genuinely take my whole weekend and listen to all of

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Speaker 3: the content. I would just drive around and listen to

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Speaker 3: the Draft Show, especially Dallascawis dot Com. No commercials, you know,

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Speaker 3: it was great. I loved it. And then to be

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the draft.

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Speaker 1: Gilling my lungs with oxygen exactly, all right?

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Speaker 3: So round one, pick twenty nine, Tyler Guidon, offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: like that one. Then we had Maris Lufoul linebacker notre

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Speaker 1: So that is our.

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Speaker 3: Rookie class, Gretz, I don't want you guys to grade this.

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Speaker 3: I hate grading classes. How do we feel?

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Speaker 6: Just a gut feeling, I honestly feel while I was

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Speaker 6: was watching it. They were talking, but I'm literally watching

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Speaker 1: And I am relatively proud about what the Cowboys did, I.

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Speaker 3: Especially the consciously optimistic Relatively, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Relatively proud because.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm proud of the fact that they moved back

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Speaker 6: and acquired what they needed.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, did they.

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Speaker 6: Miss out on somebody who could have came in and

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Speaker 6: had an immediate impact. Absolutely, Absolutely, everybody knows that that

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Speaker 6: was the pick. But they went back and got a

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Speaker 6: the conversations were having, you know, former players. You know,

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Speaker 6: guys have their opinions, very opinionated, and I'm like, there's

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Speaker 6: not enough cash.

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Speaker 1: There's not enough cash.

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Speaker 6: You go get who you want on the open market,

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Speaker 6: and you've missed the major wave of that. Anyways, you

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Speaker 6: have to acquire picks. So for them to actually acknowledge that,

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Speaker 6: I feel like they are really facing themselves in the

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Speaker 6: mirror and making some very sound and mature decisions this

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Speaker 6: moving back and acquiring another pick and the third was

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Speaker 6: addressed some of their needs. Going into this draft, we

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Speaker 6: did a good job of saying, Okay, you know what,

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Speaker 6: we can't address everything, but let's at least feel really

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Speaker 6: good about one about one aspect of our team, and

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Speaker 6: that was the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very proud that they did that.

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Speaker 5: I would I'm just telling some friends this the other day,

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Speaker 5: great on cleaner prospect probably steps in right away and

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Speaker 5: their contracts. Hey, I'm not saying this their final year

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Speaker 5: I don't just judge it off of this draft class.

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Speaker 5: And I get that, but also it shows you how

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of where they've gotten with running back.

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Speaker 5: But as Jerry mentioned after the draft, I don't think

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Speaker 5: That's the one thing. Much like safety, if you're going

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Speaker 5: to devalue certain positions. I get it because of the

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Speaker 3: But I think it's without that fourth round pick. I

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Speaker 3: think that was really it. That's when you saw those

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Speaker 5: Makes me think even if they had the fourth round

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Speaker 5: or they weren't taking a running back, really yeah, I

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Speaker 5: I think that you can talk yourself out of anything

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Speaker 5: if you can talk yourself into another player there. There

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Speaker 5: could have been another offensive lineman there. They talk ab

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Speaker 5: earlier than yeah earlier. Yeah, right, So I think that

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Speaker 5: they could have talked themselves out of any of those

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Speaker 5: be honest with you, I don't think they loved any

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Speaker 3: Well, and you also have to think that the Zekil

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Speaker 3: Elliott talk was pretty prominent. Before the draft even started,

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Speaker 3: and I think that was sort of the writing on

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Speaker 3: Jor Jones even said that, I think in the first

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Speaker 3: presser after they picked Tyler Gotten was that very much

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Speaker 3: he thinks Zeke is still a starter in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So I think the running was on the wall even

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Speaker 5: For sure. But I just think that there's a decent

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Speaker 5: chance that I'm not gonna say it's less than fifty percent,

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Speaker 5: but there's there's somewhat of a chance that the leading

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Speaker 5: is even on the roster.

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Speaker 7: Yet.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. And he even said in the

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Speaker 6: I'm not tripping on the running back no, like I'm

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: There's not you could probably name on one hand in

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Speaker 5: That you Any of those guys that you name, those

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and guys, most guys most teams have a two

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Speaker 1: To be a Josh Jacobs, to be those.

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Speaker 6: Dual threat you know, running backs that can really create.

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Speaker 6: And the only reason why King Henry is getting paid

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Speaker 6: There might there might be there might be a list

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Speaker 1: You by himself.

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Speaker 3: Would you say Saquan is one of those? Absolutely, but

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Speaker 6: Side of that, every other team is accompanying their primary

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Speaker 1: It's not the disrespect the position at all.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, if you're not making guys miss, if

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Speaker 6: much like most backs, as long as you're not fooling

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Speaker 5: I think when the final numbers come out on that

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Speaker 3: No, it's too guaranteed incentives.

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Speaker 5: Just waiting to real but those come out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that it's going to be something

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Speaker 5: that it's nothing significant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, well, I kind of wanted to get into the

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Speaker 1: No supplement, definitely a supplement. I mean, you look at it.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's unfortunate all these stats now are available

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Speaker 6: again I'm still the jury's kind of out on Deuce

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Speaker 1: Of what he can provide in other aspects of the game.

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Speaker 6: But I'm I don't feel bad if you go into

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Speaker 6: because again, what are you looking to do? What is

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Speaker 6: If your system's made to simply just play bully ball?

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Speaker 6: I like that three headed monster.

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Speaker 5: So if this was the roster and they're playing on

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Speaker 5: And how many you think like ten?

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Speaker 6: of them because they're they're all powerful backs, they all

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Speaker 1: Like they're the same type of back.

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Speaker 6: That's not the same that they're the exact same player,

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Speaker 6: but their styles are similar.

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Speaker 1: Their styles are very similar.

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Speaker 6: And if you're gonna have and they all have the

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Speaker 1: Stutup.

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking, I'm truly starting to see that these guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's what I'm That's what it's coming to.

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Speaker 5: I'm interested to see when they run out there the

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Speaker 5: I find it hearted believe that Zeke ain't gonna be

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Speaker 3: I think he starts for sure. Yeah, but I think it,

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Speaker 3: like you're saying, it is a sort of running back

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Speaker 1: It's an attitude change. It truly is an attitude change.

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Speaker 6: Fact that there's an attitude two change there. I love

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Speaker 6: And that's what I'm saying, Like, I'm less concerned about

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Speaker 5: I'm not big on the whole drafting for one season,

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Speaker 5: But I just like the idea of being, hey, we're

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's about more than just the first you know,

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Speaker 6: Will you have positional flex I mean, to your point,

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Speaker 6: to say that BB wasn't ready to play center, Okay,

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Speaker 1: You know Bass comes in at center. Right, you still

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Speaker 5: It's funny because we went into this into this draft

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Speaker 5: as you mentioned, like if Terrence Steals go down or Geitten,

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Speaker 5: it is a position where you really do need that

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Speaker 5: count on. That's the only thing that I really going

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Speaker 5: into Oxnard, I'm not too sure about, like who will

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Speaker 5: Will it be awesome? Richards? I don't know about that position.

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Speaker 5: Everything else though, even in the depth in the middle,

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Speaker 5: I feel much better about now than I did going

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Speaker 3: Think that's that's the whole point of it. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: long term answer and in the short term, it's like

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Speaker 3: and put them out on the field and see how

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Speaker 3: they work together. Right, Well, let's take our first break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll discuss more on this draft

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Speaker 3: is brought to you by Quaker Oats, the super trusted

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Speaker 3: superfood of the TOAs Cowboys. Isaiah, did you get your

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Speaker 3: oats in today?

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 6: I'm actually trying to cut my carbs a little bit

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Speaker 6: right now. You got to car my carb count, trying

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Speaker 6: to get pool ready, you know.

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Speaker 3: But when you are doing carbs, the first choice oats.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, slow burn a slow burning carb, man, people, That's

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Speaker 6: why the Quaker oats is a good morning oat, right,

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Speaker 6: good morning car because it's not a quick burn.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you're going to work out, you might want

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Speaker 1: to have something else, right.

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Speaker 6: But if you're looking for a long standing carbohydrate that

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Speaker 6: keeps you throughout the day kind of keeps your energy

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Speaker 6: levels high, Quaker oats is where it's at.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: People don't understand you have to consume different types of

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Speaker 6: carbs based upon what your day looks like.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I only do Quaker oats, only quakeross. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just add different you know, protein.

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Speaker 1: What's your number one topic for oats?

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Speaker 3: Blueberries?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 6: See, I can't do hot hot cereal with with a fruit,

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Speaker 6: with fruit, I can.

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Speaker 3: Do hot fruit well, if you put a little honey,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's just me.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't guess.

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Speaker 5: I returned this to me because I always say.

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Speaker 1: That, bimber, what's your what's your go to for.

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Speaker 5: Eating person at all?

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Speaker 8: So I do honey inside, yeah, honey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a brown sugar guy.

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Speaker 7: So I used to do brown sugar, but I didn't

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Speaker 7: want to put sugar in there, so I grab You.

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Speaker 3: Know who's saying, big oat guy for real kids, Nate Newton,

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Speaker 3: big dog.

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Speaker 1: He I talked to Big Nate yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Man, how was he doing?

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Speaker 6: He said, he is moving around. I was so happy.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I love Nate. Nate's like a big uncle to me. Right.

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Speaker 6: We spent a lot of time together obviously during the season,

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Speaker 6: and I I love to do and I hate seeing

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Speaker 6: former players in pain, but I really hate seeing Big

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Speaker 6: Nate in pain. Right, So walking around all those years

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Speaker 6: of blocking for inmate and Troy and and he hurts

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Speaker 6: when he walks right his knees and his knees was shot.

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Speaker 1: So Big Nate had had double knee surgery.

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Speaker 3: It didn't double knee surgery, and didn't tell anybody about it.

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Speaker 6: No double knees, laid up in bed for four to

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Speaker 6: six weeks, legs are straight and now he said he

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Speaker 6: used to struggle to walk for one mile back in

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Speaker 6: the you know before before surgery.

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Speaker 1: And he said, but without you know, causing any any

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Speaker 1: kind of anguish.

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Speaker 3: Even a training camp, he would call us be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: do you have the car? Like, can you pick us up?

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Speaker 1: My dog? Made me smile so big. Yes, he said,

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Speaker 1: he's walking two to three miles a day right now

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Speaker 1: with these new knees. So I'm I'm so happy for him. Man.

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Speaker 1: He deserves it.

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Speaker 6: All the former players that put their you know, sweat,

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Speaker 6: equity in blood, sweat and tears, deserve to feel good

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Speaker 6: when they wake up. And the reality is most guys don't.

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Speaker 6: And I'm happy that he is feeling much better than

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Speaker 6: what he was just even a month ago, two months ago.

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Speaker 5: He's a good dude.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Anytime you've seen him around here. I remember back at

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Speaker 5: Valley Rancher run into him. It's always there's always something.

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Speaker 5: He's always in good mood. There's always something funny that

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Speaker 5: he has to say, there's always he just brings a

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Speaker 5: good vibe wherever he's at Yeah. So no, I didn't

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Speaker 5: even know about that. That's great.

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Speaker 1: I called him to ask the first question I asked him,

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Speaker 1: I said, you're ready to race yet? Yeah, he's a nine.

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Speaker 3: I'm still ready for my big fellow, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like he'll shout out down the hall like,

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Speaker 3: no matter.

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Speaker 1: Who's the hallway, big fella, he's not quiet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm a big guy. I get it. And

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Speaker 3: he has to be also happy about this draft class. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: new offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Right, yep. The big fellas man, the big Fellas is back.

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Speaker 1: Billy Ball. That's what I'm calling it, called make go

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Speaker 1: ahead and make the shirt. Billy Ball's back. All right.

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Speaker 3: So we had a couple of signings, well a couple

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Speaker 3: we had, I guess technically two signings yesterday. We also

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Speaker 3: had Damien Wilson sign yesterday. Did you kind of get

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Speaker 3: any interest, Like, what what do you think about the signing?

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Speaker 3: Over overall?

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Speaker 5: I think they were short at linebacker. They needed at

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Speaker 5: least one more linebacker. After the draft, Steven had mentioned

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Speaker 5: Steve Jones had mentioned that they had been in talks

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Speaker 5: on Saturday with some veteran free agent players just to

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Speaker 5: kind of he said get their roster, right, I think

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Speaker 5: is how he worded it. So I think that that's

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Speaker 5: what it was, because I think they're at six right now,

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Speaker 5: six true off the ball line. I don't count like

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Speaker 5: as a linebacker. I just I don't so six true

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Speaker 5: off the balls. So I would say I think there's

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Speaker 5: a good chance they keep five or six.

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Speaker 6: When you when you say it depends on what what

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Speaker 6: Zimmer ends up doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anybody knows what Zimmer is doing, especially.

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Speaker 5: Factory factor in efactor in what they'll lead on defense

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Speaker 5: because they're going to go away from the Marquise Bell,

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Speaker 5: one Y Thomas safety come up play linebackers. And then

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Speaker 5: also the fact on they're gonna have to need a

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Speaker 5: lot of those guys that contribute on special teams. And

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Speaker 5: so that's why I'm thinking they got to keep at

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Speaker 5: least five and they could potentially keep six, And so

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Speaker 5: they're at six right now on the roster with Uh

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Speaker 5: it would be Damian Wilson. I think it's Buddy Johnson. Uh,

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Speaker 5: they got Eric Kendricks that they obviously signed to the

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Speaker 5: one year deal, Dimoon Clark to Marvin over shown and

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Speaker 5: then Maurice Yeah. The late third round pick Maurice l Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so they are six Marris, Yeah, so they got six

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Speaker 5: right now?

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Speaker 1: You pronounce his last name Loufou Marris Lufou.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, and he's I guess on the smaller side as

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Speaker 3: far as linebackers go, he's more of the athletic tie Yeah,

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Speaker 3: for sure, kind of coverage up the middle.

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Speaker 5: And I think he came Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Is a safety, yeah, and some of his issues like that,

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Speaker 3: some of the cons I guess on his tape was

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Speaker 3: run blocking right or not run blocking, run stopping? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how that plays out though in Mike Zimmer's defense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to seeing coach Zimmer's defense. I really

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Speaker 6: we know what he's done historically, but the moves of

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Speaker 6: the they're making roster wise right now, how they're forming

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Speaker 6: this defensive roster doesn't look anything remotely like what he's

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Speaker 6: done in the past. So I'm curious as to what

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Speaker 6: his game plan is.

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Speaker 3: So a question for you, John, how do the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: fill out the rest of their roster? I know you

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Speaker 3: kind of brought this up on Well you have a

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Speaker 3: whole article about it on the Athletic Well to the athletic.

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Speaker 5: I think the big thing is is that they'll have

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Speaker 5: to do They're probably at least one trade somewhere along

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Speaker 5: the lines for some type of a veteran player. Whether

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Speaker 5: I think right now it's defensive tackle. I mean, they're

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Speaker 5: just they're still thin at defensive tackle. Even if even

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Speaker 5: if you have your seventh round pick out Auburn come

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Speaker 5: in and Justin Rodgers and contribute, I still think that

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Speaker 5: you then so then he makes up for the loss

660
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: of Jonathan Hankins. Well, then you still don't make up

661
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: for the loss of Neville Gallimore. You still you're still

662
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: I think one defensive tackle there short and so I

663
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: think I could see them doing it potentially a trade there.

664
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if they signed some guys in

665
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 5: the next week or so, just because now we're at

666
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 5: a point where they don't count for the comp picks

667
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 5: for the following year. So I think you'll see some

668
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: more movement there. But I also think it's it's one

669
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 5: of those things like you go back to training camp.

670
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 5: I think it was two years ago where we went

671
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 5: into camp and we didn't know that they were gonna

672
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: go get Anthony Barr. You know, they's just like moves

673
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: like that that can still be made that of course,

674
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 5: they're probably not going to be like the trading the

675
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: first round pick for Marik Cooper, you know, but they

676
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 5: got different ways they can maneuver. And then also there's

677
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 5: a chance that a couple of these underrafted free agents

678
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 5: make the squad as well. So I think that's how

679
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 5: it gets filled out. But I think the key thing

680
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: is is that they're really going to count a lot

681
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 5: on some of these second, third year guys that really

682
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 5: have to take a jump, you know, whether you talk

683
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 5: about Schoonmaker, Overshown, Mazzie Smith, Sam Williams, Jalen Tolbert, there's

684
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that have been in the roster

685
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: to have had somewhat roles, but now they really gotta

686
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: you know, they areing to depend on them a lot more.

687
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: And I think who had a kind of a tough

688
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: go at it last season, Dumont Clark. I really am

689
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: excited to see what he does, not out of position,

690
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: I think, you know, putting him into the line backer

691
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: position that he started at, and what he's going to

692
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: do going forward. I want to see what he does

693
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: at that position, and I think like you said overall

694
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: that the second third year players, how they perform is gonna,

695
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: you know, bode well for what we do for the

696
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: rest of the season. Is they anything No, I was just.

697
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 6: Going to ask you guys, did you guys have any surprises?

698
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 6: Was there anything that surprised you guys or at any

699
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 6: disappointments in regards to the draft.

700
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: I think Marshaw Neeland was a surprise for me me

701
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: as well. But you brought up a really good point

702
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: in it being Tank Lawrence's last season under contract with Cowboys,

703
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: And I think if if you think that the salary

704
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: cap for this year is really bad, this off season

705
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: is bad, wait until next year. So and not to

706
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: say that there's running on the wall there, but I

707
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: mean just the fact of the matter, like I don't

708
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: know if we have enough to pay another season for

709
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence.

710
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 9: Maybe.

711
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: Well, but that was a big surprise to me. I

712
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: didn't expect that at all, especially when you know all

713
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: of the talk is running back at the time.

714
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: See, I wasn't thinking running back.

715
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: Go ahead, what do you think running back? Not getting

716
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: a running back was to me the biggest disappointment. And

717
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: I'm big and I don't really judge drafts too much

718
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 5: after the first two days. I think there's a lot

719
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: of luck involved with hitting on one of those picks

720
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: on Saturday, four more than one pick. If you can

721
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: hit on that on Saturday, you can get another Duran

722
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 5: Bland in the fifth round. That's say, that's icing on

723
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 5: the cake. But I judge it more off the first

724
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: you know, two days of first three rounds and not

725
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: getting a running back. That was probably my biggest surprise,

726
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: But if just from a kind of a fun standpoint

727
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 5: on Saturday, it was not taking Jerry Rice's kid, Like

728
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: I just was like, hey, if you're interested in running back,

729
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: And I think that part of that is me being

730
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 5: a writer. I like the story, just like when they

731
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: drafted Douce Fawn. But I was kind of surprised that

732
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 5: that Brandon Rice fell that far. He was a productive

733
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: player at USC, He's obviously got great pedigree, and he

734
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: falls the seventh round. That was the only one, just

735
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: because I watched him in college. Obviously you know his

736
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: dad is the goat and yeah, but outside of that, no,

737
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was a really good draft.

738
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: I don't think there was really any big surprises other

739
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: than the fact that running back, defensive tackle I think

740
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 5: are still big question marks on this team.

741
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marshaw Kneeland was the was the knee jerker.

742
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

743
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 6: For me, I'm not disappointed that they got him. Obviously,

744
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: he seemingly is a productive player, and it makes sense

745
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 6: in terms of what potentially is coming down the road,

746
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 6: and especially losing Fowler and losing Armstrong. I mean, you're

747
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 6: you're at a little light in the button where you

748
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 6: were that was your heaviest position. Now you're relatively light

749
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 6: there or at least normal. I was expecting them to

750
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 6: get a big boy d tackle.

751
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

752
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 6: Now, obviously they got Rogers in the seventh, but I

753
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: was expecting them to get two big boys up front.

754
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 6: I expect them to go heavy on offensive line, which

755
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 6: they did, and I expect them to go heavy on

756
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: the defensive line, just because the trenches is where you

757
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: win ball games, and the trenches is where this team

758
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: has struggled. So I was a little thrown off by

759
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 6: the kneeling. I'm like, we have the ends, you know

760
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Like we got d N's, I mean,

761
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 6: we picked up Sam Wims and Williams is still there,

762
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 6: you know, Mike is still there, like we got we

763
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 6: have some guys we drafted.

764
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, what's his name, Crapko. Yeah, we drafted for Hoko,

765
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Like he's there.

766
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 6: We haven't seen much from him yet, so drafting another

767
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 6: one it just threw me off because I'm like, there's needs,

768
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 6: Like that wasn't a need for me.

769
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: I think it was. Now.

770
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 6: He might have been very well, been one of the

771
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 6: higher rated guys on their board, and that might have

772
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: been what they were going for, but I'm like, there's

773
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: needs that needed to be addressed. And much like people

774
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 6: in Atlanta were mad about, you know, my got PINX

775
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 6: getting drafted. Have they already had a quarterback.

776
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, like we have dms, we need d tackles.

777
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: So that was my thinking.

778
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: I will say this though, when they tell you after

779
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: that first rounds over that when they were on the

780
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: clock at twenty four and there were four players that

781
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 5: they had in mind at twenty four, so they felt

782
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 5: like if they moved back to twenty nine they could

783
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: still get one of those guys. And so those four

784
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 5: guys were Jordan Morgan, Graham Barton, Tyler Geydon, and Missouri

785
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: defensive end Darius Robinson. So I think if you knew

786
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 5: going in that they liked him that much that if

787
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: Geyton goes before that, they could have taken Darius Robinson

788
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: at twenty nine. I think then maybe it changes your

789
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 5: thinking a little bit that, well, hey, maybe they look

790
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: at d End a little bit, you know, more than

791
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 5: they do at some other positions like that. That's the

792
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: only thing that I think factors in with there. But

793
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 5: it was a surprise just because he's not a player

794
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: that we heard a ton about going into the draft.

795
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: But when they went on the clock, he was, I

796
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: believe most people as best player or one of their

797
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: top players available. So it wasn't like they were like, hey,

798
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 5: we need a d End right now, let's reach for somebody.

799
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: I mean, was probably the best one available.

800
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: They value that position more than I think any I

801
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: think any of the shows that I was listening to

802
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: on DOSK Cowboys dot Com, I don't think defensive end

803
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: was a big knee no that we brought up. I mean,

804
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: especially myself, I wasn't really looking at that position.

805
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: After the draft, though, I'll tell you something came up

806
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: that I was like, I couldn't wait to ask you

807
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: about this. So whether you talk about Niland or you

808
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 5: talk about Leafou the linebacker in late third. The Cowboys

809
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: talk a lot about how when you watched film on them,

810
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: how they have very high effort, don't take any plays off,

811
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: you know, like really the blue collar workman like stuff

812
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: like that. So I wanted to ask you, do you

813
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: think that they were looking for that because they want

814
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 5: to add more of that to continue to build this defense,

815
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: or do you feel like last year's defense might have

816
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: been missing that. I don't know that there's a right answer.

817
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 5: I just it was something I thought of when they

818
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: said it. I'm like that they take these two defensive

819
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: players the first two days of the draft, and those

820
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: are key traits that they liked in both of them

821
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 5: that they said stood out on both those players, and

822
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: they watch tape on them.

823
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with

824
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 6: I don't want to Okay, I'm gonna say it.

825
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn.

826
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 6: Obviously you have to be a high energy, high effort

827
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 6: guy to play underneath Dan Quinn. You just have to be.

828
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 6: You have to be a relentless type player. I also believe.

829
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 6: But I think he I think he valued versatility and

830
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: athleticism more.

831
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to say more, but it was kind

832
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: of on the same level.

833
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: Right, he could feel like he could pull that out

834
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 6: of you, right, he could pull that extra effort out

835
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 6: of you, right, or the determination like as long as

836
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 6: you're athletic and you're willing, like he got you right

837
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 6: because he had he just had the ability to mentor guys.

838
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 6: I think now that you switched over to Zimmer, I

839
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 6: think there's less emphasis on athleticism and there's more emphasis

840
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 6: on are you a hard nosed football player? And I

841
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 6: think that's That's not to say that dan Quinn didn't

842
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 6: value that either, cause I know that's gonna be there's.

843
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 3: A little more pragmatic.

844
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 6: I just think that Zimmer doesn't value athleticism as much.

845
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: He's like, hey, are you big and are physical?

846
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: And are are you? Are you?

847
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 6: Are you a hard nosed player that I don't have

848
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 6: to coach effort on because I don't have time to

849
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 6: coach effort I coach football players.

850
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: It is wild though to me again, like for you, you've

851
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 5: been around it, You've seen the behind the scenes way

852
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 5: more than I ever have. So I just am always

853
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 5: amazed at the whole effort thing because I just assume that, like,

854
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: if you're going to make it to this level, then

855
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 5: you then you must give high effort all the time.

856
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 5: It's just it's the percentage to make it to the

857
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: NFL or have a chance. He was so small that

858
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: I feel like you'd I mean, I get that there

859
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 5: are some freaking athletes out there that are just like, well,

860
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: you can take place off your.

861
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: Busies, let's look at it like this.

862
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 6: And I don't I don't like putting this mark on players, right,

863
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 6: but it's just I just go off of what I

864
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 6: see on film. When you draft a Massie Smith in

865
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 6: the first round last year, you drafted him off of

866
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 6: potential and athleticism and how freakish of an athlete he is, and.

867
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Again going to the dan Quinn tree, like that's what

868
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: he values.

869
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: Like, Okay, I could pull the other stuff out of them,

870
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 6: but you couldn't that one right seemingly, not to say

871
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 6: he wasn't give an effort, but it just baseball what

872
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 6: came across for them the film.

873
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: No, everything you just said right there. I feel like it

874
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: was the exact same with Brad Maryonnelli, Tristan.

875
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 6: Hill, there you go, there you go so now so

876
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 6: now I think you're you have a change of regime

877
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Speaker 6: on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And again, what you know about Zimmer.

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Speaker 6: He's hard, nos, he likes big physical guys, and he's

880
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Speaker 6: gonna he's gonna come at you right. So those were

881
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Speaker 6: the type of players that seemingly he went out and got.

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Speaker 6: Neiland's a big physical guy who's gonna come downhill. He's

883
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 6: not got to coach you on effort. He's gonna show

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Speaker 6: you some more skills. He's gonna educate you and teach

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Speaker 6: you some more things, answer your toolbox. But he's not

886
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Speaker 6: gonna have to tell you to go right. And I

887
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Speaker 6: think that's really where he's going the same thing with

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Speaker 6: with luafulu foul, lufaul, I'm gonna get that down, lufoul.

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Speaker 6: My apologies if he's listening, but lufoul. Like again, that's

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Speaker 6: from what I've seen on film. He's a high energy,

891
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 6: high just effort guy. Everything else I can coach you

892
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 6: up on, I can coach you up on technique, right,

893
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 6: but I need you to be balls to the wall,

894
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 6: high effort guy every single time.

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Speaker 5: They well kay Cat mentioned and with Leofoo's arms being

896
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Speaker 5: thirty four inches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's go go gradgets.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that seems pretty crazy for I know, thirty two

899
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: is great for a defensive back.

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00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, no, that's that's pretty.

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00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: What you're measuring that.

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00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I guess some of ringutint arms couple maybe doesn't have

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Speaker 6: No, but he gets underneath everybody. Yeah, yeah, surprisingly he

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Speaker 6: got He has a.

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Speaker 1: Hot I mean he he binds man for what sixty

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Speaker 1: three three twenty is that what he is?

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Speaker 3: Actually didn't write it down.

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Speaker 1: I think sixty three three twenty three run there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a big boyfriend.

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Speaker 6: And you watch his film. He gets underneath guys and

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Speaker 3: want to get into?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: You were obviously at the press conferences after the draft.

966
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: Was there anything that stood out about the comments about

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Speaker 3: any of these players individually that kind of out to you.

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Speaker 5: I'd say that when I said earlier about the defensive

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Speaker 5: players in the effort, Yeah, because I just assumed because

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Speaker 5: I'm not one of these guys that just crushes the

971
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 5: tape for the draft prospects. That's never been my thing.

972
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 5: I've luckily been tight with Dan Brugler for a while now,

973
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 5: and I lean on him for a lot of that stuff.

974
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Speaker 6: So the beast I almost like a boat. You know,

975
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 6: you don't want to own the boat. You want to

976
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Speaker 6: know somebody who has the boat.

977
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Speaker 5: There you go, exactly exactly. But but plus, I just

978
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Speaker 5: I can't think of myself being able to put in

979
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 5: the time that he does that come up with all

980
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Speaker 5: that stuff and the same I mean, same thing we

981
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Speaker 5: brought us. I mean, that was his career for so long.

982
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: Like I just I like listening to what they have

983
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 5: to say. So anyway, I'm trying to think that the

984
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: two things that will stand out to me from just

985
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: following the NFL that are so different with the Cowboys

986
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 5: from other teams are whether you talk about the pre

987
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: draft press conference at the end of all these days,

988
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: how much that they are just willing to talk about

989
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, that just doesn't happen in other places.

990
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: Jerry talking about Jonathan Brooks and and talk so highly

991
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 5: of him, saying it was the best pre draft interview

992
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 5: he's ever had. Like people thinking that Jerry is doing

993
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: that like mistakenly because they want to get He knew

994
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 5: that they were never getting Jonathan Brooks. That's why he

995
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: said that. That's Jerry's gamesmanship. That doesn't happen though, again

996
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: with other teams really. And then the other one was,

997
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 5: like I said earlier about they tell you the four

998
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: guys they were considering on the board. Most teams won't

999
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: do that. And the reason you don't do that is

1000
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: because if Tyler Guitton doesn't pan out or Babe doesn't

1001
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 5: pan out, and Darius Robinson ends up being von Miller

1002
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: or Graham Barton ends up being Zach Martin or something

1003
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: like that, you.

1004
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: Have these two.

1005
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, hey, and it's the history of the franchise.

1006
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: I'm telling you I will always remember one of my

1007
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: fondest memories from from Valley Ranch and I have several,

1008
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: but one of them is walking with like a couple

1009
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: other reporters with Jerry in twenty twelve at Or they

1010
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: traded up and got Morse Claiborne. And so it was

1011
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 5: at the end of day two and it was after

1012
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 5: the press characters and walk criteria, We're just like, hey,

1013
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: if you did have that second that you didn't trade

1014
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: for Claiborne, who are you going to take? And he's like, oh,

1015
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 5: that UTAs State linebacker. And I knew when he said that.

1016
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: It's not like he's just gonna say whatever, and it's

1017
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: Uta State. Whatever you and that's Bobby Wagner. And so

1018
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 5: it's like you like look back on that and you're like,

1019
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 5: you probably so you could have had Michael Brockers and

1020
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 5: Bobby Wagner or Morse Claiborne. And it's like, in the moment,

1021
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 5: people wouldn't because how many how much did people really

1022
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 5: know at that time about the UTA State linebacker? You

1023
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: didn't know he was going to be what it was,

1024
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 5: and when it happened, you were like, man, they're putting

1025
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: together Brandon car with Mo Claiborne, Like, man, this defensive

1026
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: backfield is going to be crazy and obviously didn't live

1027
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 5: up to the investments. And I bring that up to

1028
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 5: say also that that's the last time that I felt

1029
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: like the organization was super aggressive, like and they've been

1030
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 5: a lot more conservative since then, whether it's free agency

1031
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 5: trading up in the draft.

1032
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: And you think that was a reaction to the more absolutely.

1033
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: And the and the branded car thing too. They haven't

1034
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: had a significant free agency signing since then. Outside the building,

1035
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 5: that inane for the time, right, No, no, it was

1036
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 5: of what.

1037
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: Thirty guaranteed and at the time we were like wait.

1038
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 5: What no, no, it's five years, fifty point one million

1039
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: dollar fifty yeah, fifty yeah, yeah, because I remember it

1040
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 5: was fifty point one so that he could reset the

1041
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 5: whatever the top corner money was at the time, which

1042
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 5: is crazy thing now because now top corners are getting

1043
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: over twenty you know, so of course, but yeah, that's

1044
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 5: really it. They're always they're always entertaining though they're always

1045
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 5: in like all those press conferences that they do. That's

1046
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 5: why people ask me, well, why didn't you go back

1047
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 5: to Detroit for the draft, and like, you want to

1048
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: be wherever if you're covering the Dale Skyways draft. You

1049
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: want to be wherever Jerry Jones is because you just

1050
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: never know what he's going to say. You'd never know

1051
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: which direction it's going to go in there. You mean,

1052
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 5: I mean to sit there and talk about how deep

1053
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 5: the offensive line was in this draft and say, well,

1054
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: why do you Rob Banks? That's because for the money

1055
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: is like, it's a great it's a great anecdote, and

1056
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 5: it's a great thing, including your stories. But again, it's

1057
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 5: just one of those things that most other teams owner

1058
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 5: shams aren't saying.

1059
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: Or even the rowdy thing.

1060
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: It was the rowdy thing of course.

1061
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no with the lever zero.

1062
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, making a joke that you know, he was

1063
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 5: asked if he wouldn't mind a player wearing number zero,

1064
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 5: which I think a lot of people would want. The

1065
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 5: Marvey On overshown. I think, you know, that was the

1066
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: number that fits with him. And I think his even

1067
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: his Twitter handle is something like agent zero or something.

1068
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 5: I could be rung in that. I don't know, but anyway,

1069
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 5: and and he just made a joke about how like,

1070
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: well that's Rowdy's number. We got to ask Rowdy first,

1071
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: somebody somebody can wear that. But yeah, it's just it's

1072
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: always entertaining. But there's just a lot of little things

1073
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: that they do that's a lot different than other teams for.

1074
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: Sure, outside of the Cowboys. What was the most surprising

1075
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: pick for you guys just overall?

1076
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 5: Just oh, it's not even close. At your boy Pennix,

1077
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 5: that's right. And the only reason I say it, the

1078
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 5: only reason is because of the kirk Cousins thing. Yes, yeah,

1079
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 5: they didn't. If they didn't sign Kirk Cousins and give

1080
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 5: them basically a one hundred million dollars guaranteed ninety I

1081
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 5: think it is, then it. I'm fine with it because

1082
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: I saw plenty from Michael Penix that go. I can

1083
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 5: easily see why this guy would be a top fifteen pick.

1084
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: You know, I feel like me personally, and I'm again

1085
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: not crushing the tape like a lot of other people are,

1086
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 5: but I saw more from Michael Penox in college than

1087
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 5: I did J. J. McCarthy and and I mean JJ

1088
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 5: McCarthy's that talk about him leading up to the draft.

1089
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 5: It was crazy. I mean the only people that were

1090
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: talked about more were probably Caleb Williams, and I guess

1091
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 5: maybe Jade and Daniels and then right there. I felt

1092
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: like J. J. McCarthy was talking about more than Drake

1093
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: may Penix all those guys. But I would say that

1094
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 5: was the one surprise. And then again, I gotta stick

1095
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 5: with quarterbacks. It's just when all those guys were going

1096
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 5: and then bow Nicks went, I thought for sure Spencer

1097
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 5: Rattler would go with like in another twenty thirty picks.

1098
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 5: He ran the last as long as he did. That

1099
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: was kind of surprising me too.

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00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: He waited for a while with Pennix. I was when

1101
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: it got to I think it was the Giants pick.

1102
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: I was like please no.

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00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

1104
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: After our talk, I was like, I hope this is what.

1105
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 5: Were you thinking though, Falcons go on the clock? I mean,

1106
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: are you thinking Falcons there are a possibility there?

1107
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: No, Okay, I didn't.

1108
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 5: Where would you think in that he possibly where would

1109
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: have been a good fit for him.

1110
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 6: I think he was the best available quarterback. Yeah, honest

1111
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 6: with you, I think he was the best quarterback. After No,

1112
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 6: I think he was the best quarterback. Yeah, yeah, period.

1113
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 6: I think he's better than Wims. That's just my opinion.

1114
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 6: That's just being genuine. That's not even being a fan

1115
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 6: of you. Dub that's I think he's the most pure

1116
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 6: quarterback that was in this draft. Ability to throw the rock.

1117
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 6: This dude is a specimen when he comes to throwing

1118
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 6: that rock. The only reason why they had NOx on

1119
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 6: those is because his injuries before he got to up.

1120
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 6: But his dude led the FBS last did you know,

1121
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 6: not this year, but the previous year in passing and

1122
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 6: then he was the runner up to a Heisman this year,

1123
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 6: so like there was just no respect being placed on

1124
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 6: his name at all. He could make throws that none

1125
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 6: of those guys could make. But I'm happy for him.

1126
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 6: I that was very ballsy of Atlanta to do that,

1127
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 6: but I'm very happy for Pinnicks.

1128
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: You no wonder how much it hurt him though, that

1129
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: that final game against Michigan.

1130
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: It was almost a.

1131
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 5: Little bit of a deer in the headlights. It was

1132
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: steel that where you were like the moment like I

1133
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 5: was almost too yeah, And I wonder if that, excuse me,

1134
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 5: I impacted it at all. It shouldn't have because he's

1135
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: got such a big body of work. But I always

1136
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 5: wonder with like things like that. But then again, man,

1137
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: as someone in that roots against the University of Michigan,

1138
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: C J. Stroud did not play well in either of

1139
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: Ohio State's games against Michigan, and he comes to the

1140
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 5: NFL and he is a baller.

1141
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 6: So I know we don't have enough time to address

1142
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: this question, okay, but I have to bring it up.

1143
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 6: I wanted to talk about well, the cornerback draft too.

1144
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 6: I didn't know how you guys feel about Kaitlin Carson.

1145
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: But anyway, real quick, the receiver market is exponentially going up.

1146
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't tell you that happened right before the draft.

1147
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: Quickly does this deal with ceedee LAMB need to get

1148
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 6: done because I'm on Ron Saint Brown got thirty a

1149
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 6: year immediately after Philadelphia. Say hey, JJ, don't even don't

1150
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 6: even don't even raise your eyebrow.

1151
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: We got you. Here's thirty two. Yeah, got you. So

1152
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: now CDs like oh aj Brown got thirty two. That's interesting,

1153
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: Let's start the conversation at thirty four.

1154
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 5: My problem is, though, I will say about this, is

1155
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 5: that we don't know what his side has asked for.

1156
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: They might have, They might be asking for thirty five

1157
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 5: right out the game day entire.

1158
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 6: Yesterday's price is not today's price. Quote boy, this but

1159
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 6: his philosopher named fat Joe.

1160
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 5: So what about this, though, I think you don't.

1161
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: Have to do it before Justin Jefferson personally, Justin Jeffers's

1162
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: gonna wait.

1163
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: What if they keep waiting to what if they're willing

1164
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 5: to use multiple franchise tags. I mean, it'll get ugly.

1165
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 5: But what if that what if that's in the.

1166
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: And in their plans, then what are you telling Micah?

1167
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying, well, one of them, you'll you'll, You'll

1168
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 5: have to get done the other one.

1169
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 6: I don't see them using a franchise tag on CD

1170
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 6: if this gets ugly because of what it would do

1171
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 6: to Micah.

1172
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: So this I'm saying, this deal has to get done

1173
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: a sap.

1174
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 5: But but if is Micah going to care if they

1175
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 5: agree to a contract cent you with him makes him

1176
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: the highest paid defensive player. Do you think he's really

1177
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 5: gonna be like, Hey, but what about my guy here?

1178
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be fine.

1179
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 6: They better figure it out before Michael gets ever gets

1180
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 6: that close to free agency because I agree that agree price.

1181
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: Will be I don't think that CD one's the most

1182
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 5: surprising thing of the off season for me. They always

1183
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 5: want It's not them not doing that much in free

1184
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 5: agency because we we're used to it, Like you know,

1185
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 5: we were talking about the brand of car. Thing that

1186
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 5: it's it's that CD is not done because he's done

1187
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 5: everything to back off all the boxes. There's no questions

1188
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 5: left with the top five receives.

1189
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: And I also understand waiting for the market to settle,

1190
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: I guess and kind of determine where you want to

1191
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: go with that. But my thing is like, you have

1192
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: to get it done before.

1193
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: What's the number right now? What's the starting.

1194
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 5: That's that conversation. We don't know what what they're asking for.

1195
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: What if the entire time they've been asking for thirty five,

1196
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm just throwing something out. If

1197
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 5: they're asking for thirty five, another guy getting thirty another

1198
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 5: guy getting thirty two isn't really changing.

1199
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 6: But as of right now, let's just say that that

1200
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: they weren't asking anything to date.

1201
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: What does a conversation start with today?

1202
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 5: If I mean aj Brown, just thirty five?

1203
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Thirty three?

1204
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 5: No, but that's not what you're asking for. You would

1205
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 5: ask for more?

1206
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, what am I asking forty?

1207
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1208
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, of course, but I think

1209
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: you're hoping for thirty three to thirty five.

1210
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: Whatever the contract has to be, it's going to have

1211
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 5: to be. You have to be the next guy that's

1212
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 5: number one.

1213
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: And in that years too. Does he want to go

1214
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: back to the well, yeah, sooner like Dack didn't.

1215
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 5: I feel like so many these guys, it's four year deals,

1216
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 5: two million game.

1217
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: Is he worth two million in the game? Absolutely?

1218
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 5: I think I think CD Lamb is I do.

1219
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not saying he's not worth I'm just

1220
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: that number one.

1221
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 9: You guys do realize that CD and Jefferson are with

1222
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 9: the same company.

1223
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: They're both a c A A.

1224
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 8: So I mean, like, it's not they're both one guy

1225
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 8: is going to start first because they both know what's

1226
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 8: going on.

1227
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure.

1228
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: So for sure, let's have him signed the same deal

1229
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: at the same time.

1230
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 1: Happening the same day. There's gonna be not gonna happen.

1231
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying there c A represents both of them.

1232
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: Now they do have different agents within c A, but

1233
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: c as well.

1234
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: Eventually those guys are gonna want one of those guys

1235
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 5: are gonna want to get their money. Yeah for sure

1236
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: that they're gonna be like, Okay, this is fun. Now

1237
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 5: let me get that country.

1238
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: This was fun. Yeah, let's let's sign it.

1239
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 5: And then Jamyar chase the top all of them.

1240
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: I would assume CD he would want to sign before Justin,

1241
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: But I mean whatever, we'll find out.

1242
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Conversation starts at at least thirty three.

1243
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: Thirty three yeah, oh yeah.

1244
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 5: Now at AJ Brown and I'm around Saint Brown have

1245
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 5: reset that market, absolutely, it does, all right. It's not

1246
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: like we're gonna come back here. We're gonna be like, hey,

1247
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: it's crazy marketing. Hey, top guys getting twenty five. Now

1248
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 5: it's on the other side.

1249
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: He's sitting on the couch right now with his ankles

1250
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: crossed with a toothpieck.

1251
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: Just yeah, wait, go ahead, But how long can you

1252
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: do that for?

1253
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: He can do it for as long as it needs to.

1254
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: Is not with a cowboys can no.

1255
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: But I'm saying that Jamar would be the next guy.

1256
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: Then he would reset over all of them. I'm not

1257
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 5: I don't really care about the agency, to be honest

1258
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 5: with you, I think all these guys all want to

1259
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 5: each who whether they're represented by the three of us

1260
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 5: or somebody else, they all want to reset the market.

1261
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: All right, boys, That'll be it for talking Cowboys. We'll

1262
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: be back next Tuesday. What we're out of here? Man,

1263
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 3: we gotta go. It's time next Tuesday, ten am. Thank

1264
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: you very much. Tune in for Cowboy storyline after this,

1265
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 3: and we also have Hanging with the Boys today at

1266
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Speaker 3: two ten. Thank you for Chris Beam, I say stand back,

1267
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 3: John Machoda, Let's do this. Josh Rodriguez, Thank you, Kyle Almost.

1268
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: Thank you, Nick Rose. Though you're not here, we appreciate

1269
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Speaker 3: you later.

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