Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2: It's spooky and jooky.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, hell I go, said Byron Jess.
Speaker 3: Hey boo, it's me Roz. I cannot wait to share
Speaker 3: our conversation today that I had with Daylan Spratt of
Speaker 3: the television show Ghost Brothers Haunted House Guests. Because we
Speaker 3: have some laughs, we hear some terrifying stories, and we
Speaker 3: talk about some real shit as well. So we'll get
Speaker 3: to that in just a few moments, but before then,
Speaker 3: I want to share with you a couple of things,
Speaker 3: particularly some stuff I've been watching. If you're looking for suggestions,
Speaker 3: I just watched a documentary that I thought was incredible.
Speaker 3: It is on Travel Channel and it's from their Shock
Speaker 3: Docs series, and it is called The Devil's Road, The
Speaker 3: True Story of Ed and Lorraine Warren. Now this is
Speaker 3: not sponsored content or anything. It's just a suggestion. I swear.
Speaker 3: If you don't know Ed and Lorraine Warren, we talk
Speaker 3: about them often in paranormal conversations, particularly, I mean on
Speaker 3: this show, we've talked about them a couple of times.
Speaker 3: They are absolutely pioneers in the ghost hunting world, and
Speaker 3: they've worked on some of the biggest cases in paranormal history.
Speaker 3: I mean, we all know the Amneyville Horror, the Haunting
Speaker 3: in Connecticut, Annabelle, all those conjuring movies. I mean, the
Speaker 3: Warrents worked on that stuff. And this documentary talks about
Speaker 3: some of the cases that haven't been movies yet and
Speaker 3: has great footage and archival interviews, and they've tracked down
Speaker 3: some of the people that have been affected in these cases,
Speaker 3: and dam Lorraine's daughter is heavily interviewed in it. And
Speaker 3: I just thought it was so great and something that
Speaker 3: if you are into the paranormal, even me. I mean
Speaker 3: I thought I knew a lot about Edam Lorraine Warren,
Speaker 3: but I actually learned quite a few things, and I
Speaker 3: was very very into it. Eden Laring Warren. They were
Speaker 3: definitely very Christian and Catholic faith, Heaven, hell, demons, devils, Jesus.
Speaker 3: They were definitely that approach, which you know, it's not
Speaker 3: where I am currently in my life journey, but I
Speaker 3: mean I always say all the time, if I had
Speaker 3: the Annabelle doll in my house, or walls bleeding in
Speaker 3: my house or something, I would instantly in that moment
Speaker 3: become a born again Catholic, I would become a nun
Speaker 3: honestly and just devote my life to that. But it's
Speaker 3: really great to see their approach and their findings. And
Speaker 3: it kind of goes back to that conversation that I
Speaker 3: had with Katrina Wideman, also of the Travel Channel. Lots
Speaker 3: of Travel Channel talk today Katrina from Portals to Hell.
Speaker 3: If you didn't hear our interview or conversation a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks back where she talks about that conviction behind
Speaker 3: using Jesus or Sage or whatever whatever it is that
Speaker 3: is exercising demons or dark spirits, and clearly for the
Speaker 3: Warrens it was a Christian thing. But you know, I
Speaker 3: just it's something I think about constantly, and I actually
Speaker 3: I reached out to an exorcist, and this particular exorcist
Speaker 3: agreed to come on the show, so I have I'm
Speaker 3: not going to say who or or tell you too
Speaker 3: much just because you know, schedules change and we haven't
Speaker 3: recorded it yet, but I am in talks with an exorcist,
Speaker 3: not because I need an exorcism, I don't think, but
Speaker 3: to have on the show. So we'll be talking about
Speaker 3: this kind of thing a lot more in the very
Speaker 3: near future. Something that I was watching that is not
Speaker 3: paranormal but adjacent to the ghosted universe is the new
Speaker 3: documentary about the Go Gos on Showtime. And I love
Speaker 3: the Go Gos and my friend Pleasant gay Men, who
Speaker 3: has been on this podcast twice. She was on a
Speaker 3: regular episode and she was in our first live show ever.
Speaker 3: She was very involved with the Go Gos early on,
Speaker 3: and so she actually appears in that documentary, which was
Speaker 3: super cool to see, and I was thinking about her
Speaker 3: and we started chatting and we decided We're gonna go
Speaker 3: ghost hunting and I'm gonna do my best with the
Speaker 3: very limited equipment that I have to try to film something.
Speaker 3: So We'll be going ghost hunting very soon and I'll
Speaker 3: be of course posting it on my Patreon, Patreon, dot
Speaker 3: com slash roz dres Falaise. I just put up a
Speaker 3: new video this Tuesday that is me revealing one of
Speaker 3: my deepest, darkest secrets, which is how I transform my big,
Speaker 3: bushy eyebrows into gorgeous, drag queen eyebrows. And it's something
Speaker 3: that I have worked years on to accomplish at least
Speaker 3: as good as I've gotten them now. I'm very proud
Speaker 3: of the technique that I've developed. I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: it's me taking a bunch of different techniques and putting
Speaker 3: them all together because I've tried so many different things.
Speaker 3: And so I did a little tutorial which if you're
Speaker 3: looking for fun ideas for Halloween, a great way to
Speaker 3: transform yourself is to glue down your eyebrows and draw
Speaker 3: on completely different ones. So maybe you'll enjoy watching that video. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's talk about this episode today. I talked to Dalen
Speaker 3: from Ghost Brothers Haunted House Guests, which you can watch
Speaker 3: on You Guessed It, the Travel Channel. We recorded this
Speaker 3: about a month ago, and what I think I can
Speaker 3: gather is maybe they're shooting now on their next season.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but he was so generous with his time,
Speaker 3: and so we just started getting to talking, and I
Speaker 3: apologize off the bat because we did not get to EVPs.
Speaker 3: We ran out of time. So it's one of those
Speaker 3: rare episodes today where we don't do EVPs. But if
Speaker 3: you don't know the Ghost Brothers, it's Dalen, Juwan and
Speaker 3: Marcus and they are three real life friends that do
Speaker 3: ghost hunting with a comedic approach, which I'm obviously a
Speaker 3: huge fan of and I love seeing comedy with the paranormal.
Speaker 3: And of course I have to point out that they are,
Speaker 3: in history, the first ever all black cast of ghost
Speaker 3: Hunters on television, So we talk a lot about that
Speaker 3: and representation and how important that is and hearing different voices,
Speaker 3: not in a paranormal since not hearing voices, but you
Speaker 3: know what I mean different elevating different experiences and hearing
Speaker 3: different voices of different people's approach to the paranormal. And
Speaker 3: I am so passionate about that, and I hope that
Speaker 3: that comes across with this podcast. Ghosted Baira's dress flees
Speaker 3: because I've always wanted to have on people of all
Speaker 3: different backgrounds, all different races, sexual orientations, genders, religious upbringings,
Speaker 3: super famous people, you everyone, to show that we all
Speaker 3: do have these experiences. It's one thing that can absolutely
Speaker 3: connect us in this lifetime, and our life experiences give
Speaker 3: us different insights and different approaches to the paranormal. So
Speaker 3: I'm just such a huge fan of the Ghost Brothers
Speaker 3: and they've done a few seasons. I was able to
Speaker 3: find them on demand on cable, but I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: ways of finding it online as well, and they've done
Speaker 3: the show. It was originally called Ghost Brothers and now
Speaker 3: it's Ghost Brothers Haunted House Guests and they go to
Speaker 3: haunted houses and hotels and all different kinds of places.
Speaker 3: And I just I find it so entertaining and highly
Speaker 3: recommend And since they do talk about the paranormal in
Speaker 3: a comedic way, much like myself, I wanted to talk
Speaker 3: to him about his approach to that. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a fine line that I certainly I
Speaker 3: do my best with of being respectful of the dead.
Speaker 3: To me and Dyalen, it kind of comes down to
Speaker 3: treating others the way you would like to be treated,
Speaker 3: either dead or alive. And so I talked to him
Speaker 3: about that, and it's a conversation that I don't get
Speaker 3: to have with many people because there aren't many people
Speaker 3: that do comedy about the paranormal. So we talked about that,
Speaker 3: and that part in particular is on Patreon. So on
Speaker 3: my second tier, which is called on with the show,
Speaker 3: you can hear the two of us talking about how
Speaker 3: to make the paranormal funny. Okay, here we go with
Speaker 3: an interview that I so enjoyed Dyalen Spratt from Ghost
Speaker 3: Brothers Haunted House guests on with the show. Hello, how
Speaker 3: are you today?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm living life. What more can you be asking for? Right? Well?
Speaker 3: How have the past few months been for you? You
Speaker 3: holding up?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? Man, it's been real quiet, been real quiet
Speaker 2: for us. Just been able to spend time with family
Speaker 2: and I think just like with you know, beforehand, were
Speaker 2: just traveling so much with everything that we do because
Speaker 2: other than film and TV, you know, Juanna and I
Speaker 2: may close. Marcus is a traveling barber, so we're just
Speaker 2: always on the road, motivational speaker. So this time that
Speaker 2: the world just shut down, it's just I don't know,
Speaker 2: you were able to rest your mind, your body and
Speaker 2: h and as a creative man, I just like I've
Speaker 2: just been like able to just you know, really let
Speaker 2: my mind go and like get some stuff on paper,
Speaker 2: like all those ideas that we've had or you wanted
Speaker 2: to do. So, I don't know, I feel like this
Speaker 2: this time has been like a gift and the curse
Speaker 2: kind of Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you been thinking about ghost stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because because this has that has what's been interfered
Speaker 2: with the most during these times, because this is the
Speaker 2: time that we were supposed to be on the road
Speaker 2: filming the TV show, doing investigations, like we had a
Speaker 2: lot of events lined up for the public. Just so
Speaker 2: many things were lined up during these past four or
Speaker 2: five months and we didn't get to do any of that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so now we've just been sitting around like
Speaker 2: just trying to put together some amazing plays for stuff
Speaker 2: that's to come up. So we're actually about to get
Speaker 2: on the road now to start filming in a week.
Speaker 2: So really yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 3: How do you do that in like a COVID friendly
Speaker 3: way like when you travel around so.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy. We actually had an hour long
Speaker 2: skype meeting with the entire team last night and that
Speaker 2: was what the whole conversation was about. So everyone has
Speaker 2: to get tested weekly. So we have to get tested.
Speaker 2: I got tested last week, the results came back negative,
Speaker 2: and we have to get tested again this week before
Speaker 2: we leave out next week. And on set, everyone has
Speaker 2: to wear you know, face covering and protective gear throughout.
Speaker 4: The whole you know, car ride from.
Speaker 2: The airport to the hotel to the locations to anywhere
Speaker 2: other than us filming. Everyone has to wear masks, strict
Speaker 2: rule policy.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So, like, you know, you a couple of times where
Speaker 2: your mask. Yeah, yeah, well just every everyone just has
Speaker 2: to be responsible.
Speaker 3: But none of that stuff matters to a ghost. They
Speaker 3: don't do social distancing.
Speaker 2: They don't care, they don't you know what's interesting. I
Speaker 2: wonder if they can be affected by a pandemic, Like
Speaker 2: I wonder if they they feel any type of thing
Speaker 2: or does it affect their existence other than people just
Speaker 2: being at home now and now they don't get that
Speaker 2: free time away from us, and like when we go
Speaker 2: to work, they're probably ghosts are probably looking at us
Speaker 2: the way that our dogs look at us, like they're
Speaker 2: so usele us leaving during the day.
Speaker 3: I think that they miss people. They miss like the audience,
Speaker 3: you know, they miss like messing with somebody, you know, right,
Speaker 3: fet off of that, well, let's talk about the show.
Speaker 3: And seriously, my I've spent a lot of my shelter
Speaker 3: in place watching Ghosts Brothers, which I've I've rewatched a
Speaker 3: lot of episodes, and I just love what you guys do.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are so so funny. Do you
Speaker 3: guys have comedy backgrounds?
Speaker 2: So Marcus does. Marcus is a comedian. He hasn't been
Speaker 2: doing stand up too much as of late, but he
Speaker 2: used to do standing up a lot, so he has
Speaker 2: a background in comedy. Man. Me and Joan Nah, we're
Speaker 2: just guys that, just like Craig jokes Man, like you know,
Speaker 2: have our own different type of just I think what
Speaker 2: it is to be completely honest is the fact that
Speaker 2: we are genuinely all best friends. It's not like other
Speaker 2: shows just in any other like you know, how you
Speaker 2: watch some of these reality shows like the Real Housewives
Speaker 2: or like Love and Hip Hop and all these shows
Speaker 2: you wanted like dangn want of these people knew each
Speaker 2: other before this or they're just like yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with us. But like we've been
Speaker 2: knowing each other forever, Like I tell people all the time,
Speaker 2: Like it's some times where like you know, I've slept
Speaker 2: on Jawan's couch or Marcus, you know, been in my
Speaker 2: mama's house going through the refrigerator. Like we've been friends
Speaker 2: like forever. Like it's not anything like the TV show.
Speaker 2: You just get a glimpse of us. Without the TV show,
Speaker 2: we would still be doing the stuff that we're doing.
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice to hear, are you guys? So when
Speaker 3: you you've talked about on the show that you all
Speaker 3: had paranormal experiences when you were growing up, I mean,
Speaker 3: was that was it like a conversation that you had
Speaker 3: at some point where you were like, Hey, I believe
Speaker 3: in ghosts. You believe in ghosts. Let's go do some
Speaker 3: ghost stuff.
Speaker 2: So me and Juwan we met in college, so that
Speaker 2: was like back in two thousand and four, and we
Speaker 2: pledged the same fraternity and and and that's that's how
Speaker 2: we met. We met the first day of being online
Speaker 2: pledging our fraternity, Like they make you walk into a
Speaker 2: room and like you're unveiled and you're meeting your future
Speaker 2: line brothers. Like Juwan was one of those guys, and
Speaker 2: we just hit it off, and you know, we found
Speaker 2: out that we had a lot of similarities and just casually,
Speaker 2: like when you're pledging, like you're literally with these guys
Speaker 2: for six seven, eight weeks at a time, day in
Speaker 2: day out. You're like you're with these people all day long,
Speaker 2: and it's not unnormal just to be talking about random things.
Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about the girl, the people you're dating,
Speaker 2: or you're talking about your family backgrounds, and you're leaving set,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe at like three four o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: and somebody might say something funny which leads to, like,
Speaker 2: you know, a story that someone starts telling, and then
Speaker 2: that's how you start unraveling, go down this rabbit hole
Speaker 2: of ghosts and like stuff you believe in religion and
Speaker 2: God and the devil and angels and all the aliens.
Speaker 2: Like you start talking about all type of crazy stuff
Speaker 2: when you're with your friends late at night, and then
Speaker 2: you just you realize that, like, you know, some people
Speaker 2: actually have had experiences that they may or may not
Speaker 2: have ever talked about because they felt like it was
Speaker 2: taboo or no one else has ever done anything, or
Speaker 2: no one else has ever experienced anything similar. And Jaa
Speaker 2: was just one of those guys that, you know, he
Speaker 2: heard one of our stories and he was like, dang man,
Speaker 2: let me tell you what happened to me. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of where it was birth for m.
Speaker 3: So what had happened to you up until that point.
Speaker 2: So I'm from Dallas, Texas, right, and so both of
Speaker 2: my parents are from Texas. My mother is from East
Speaker 2: Texas and my father is from West Texas, and West
Speaker 2: Texas is a small town called mcay Mee.
Speaker 4: Texas, and this town is like, this is like.
Speaker 2: The oil country of West Texas, the plains where it's
Speaker 2: like you can stand on your patio, man and see
Speaker 2: a mile out because it's just plains. It's hot. It's
Speaker 2: just a hot flat land place. Like literally, there's oil
Speaker 2: pumps out there. Man, Like, there's nothing out there but
Speaker 2: the town mcay me It had this black side of
Speaker 2: town and had his white side of town. It had
Speaker 2: a black post office, a white post office, a blackpool
Speaker 2: and a white pool. Man Like, It's just that type
Speaker 2: of place in West Texas. Right. So my grandmother I
Speaker 2: was visiting her one summer and I had an older
Speaker 2: cousin who lived out there too, So I had to
Speaker 2: be seven. My older cousin had to be maybe nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty at the time. She had a best friend. Her
Speaker 2: best friend was dating a guy. They got into a
Speaker 2: domestic dispute. The guy was working for the animal controls.
Speaker 2: We went out to his truck and got the rifle
Speaker 2: that they used for the animals. He shot his girlfriend
Speaker 2: and he shot himself. She survived. He ended up dying.
Speaker 2: Mind you. This is a small town in West Texas.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows everyone, so when word got out what happened,
Speaker 2: and this was very close to my family because it
Speaker 2: was my cousin's best friend. And when the guy died,
Speaker 2: my grandmother and her best friend decided they wanted to
Speaker 2: go to the funeral home to view the body during
Speaker 2: the wake, and so my grandmother took me with him,
Speaker 2: this first time ever seeing a dead body. And I
Speaker 2: remember walking into the church, going up into the casket
Speaker 2: with my grandmother and her friend and seeing this guy
Speaker 2: laying down in his casket, and I never forget he
Speaker 2: had on a light gray jacket, a white shirt, and
Speaker 2: a skinny black tie. And I remember looking at him
Speaker 2: and at seven, like I wasn't naives, Like I knew
Speaker 2: the story that he shot himself, and I knew in
Speaker 2: my mind like if someone shot themselves, like they should
Speaker 2: look messed up. But he looked like, genuinely he was
Speaker 2: just sleeping. And I remember asking my grandmother. I was like, Mama,
Speaker 2: like if he killed himself, like why does he look
Speaker 2: like he's just sleeping? You know? She brushed it off.
Speaker 2: She was like, that's because they do a good job here.
Speaker 2: So when it is my time, y'all, make sure y'all
Speaker 2: bring me here, like you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: trying to make it seem like the funeral home just
Speaker 2: did a great job on the work on this guy.
Speaker 2: And so I'm looking at his body and literally, my
Speaker 2: grandmother's friend asked me. She said, Dayalen, have you ever
Speaker 2: touched the dead body? I'm seven, I'm seven. If I
Speaker 2: said yes, it would.
Speaker 4: Have been a problem, you know what.
Speaker 2: I Oh, y'all do this all the time. Nah. So
Speaker 2: she grabs my hand and puts it on the chest
Speaker 2: of this guy in the casket, and I remember looking
Speaker 2: up in fear at her as she's holding my hand,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at my grandmama like you're not gonna
Speaker 2: do nothing, Like, first of all, you're too old to
Speaker 2: be hanging around bad influences, Like yeah, this lady, this
Speaker 2: lady is not your friend. But she, like I saw,
Speaker 2: I jected my hand back from the body and that
Speaker 2: was it. We left.
Speaker 3: Why would she want you to touch the te potty?
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen to this day.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's like a movie, like a bunch
Speaker 3: of teenagers in the woods, Like come.
Speaker 2: On, listen, I tell people all the time, and it
Speaker 2: felt like a gang initiation, like what you'll try to
Speaker 2: get me to do? But so yeah, so we leave.
Speaker 4: And then that was that.
Speaker 2: That night, I remember being in my grandmother's home and
Speaker 2: I was laying on the couch sleep. It had to
Speaker 2: be like two three o'clock in the morning. And literally,
Speaker 2: you know how like in older people's houses they put
Speaker 2: like the plastic over the couch yea, you know, saying
Speaker 2: it exactly back in the day. So that's how my
Speaker 2: grandmother's couch was. So I was sleep on it with
Speaker 2: my blanket, and I remember waking up in the middle
Speaker 2: night and I don't know if I can cuss on
Speaker 2: here or not, but I bull yeah, I bullshit you not.
Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle of the night and
Speaker 2: I look into the kitchen. The kitchen is adjacent to
Speaker 2: the living room, and in the doorframe was that same
Speaker 2: young man. He was wearing the same thing, that light
Speaker 2: gray jacket, white shirt and a skinny black tie, and
Speaker 2: he was leaning up against the doorframe looking into the
Speaker 2: peering into the living room where I was sleeping. And
Speaker 2: when I woke up and saw that, I screamed as
Speaker 2: loud as I could, and my grandmother come running in there.
Speaker 2: She grabs me. I'm stuck to the plastic of the couch, sweating,
Speaker 2: peeling myself off this couch, screaming, and she's like, what's
Speaker 2: wrong with you? Boy? Was wrong? Was wrong?
Speaker 4: And I just.
Speaker 2: Literally point to the kitchen and she turns and looks
Speaker 2: like nothing is there, and I was just like, it
Speaker 2: freaked me out. It freaked me out. It freaked me out.
Speaker 2: And to this day, that was when I was seven.
Speaker 2: I'm thirty five now, so I was almost thirty years ago,
Speaker 2: and I've always wondered like, was it a or did
Speaker 2: by touching this body, did I have some type of
Speaker 2: attachment that maybe followed me home that night and showed
Speaker 2: itself to me. I don't know, thinking about it now,
Speaker 2: like it still makes me like, but that always that's
Speaker 2: what That was the catalyst that would set the tone
Speaker 2: for me always being curious about the paranormal.
Speaker 3: Were you raised in a belief system that you know, like,
Speaker 3: did you guys believe in this stuff?
Speaker 2: So my mother is a pastor of a church. So
Speaker 2: she's the head pastor of her church in Dallas, Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so she's been my head pastor since I was like
Speaker 2: in the third grade. So I grew up in the
Speaker 2: church before that, like before that, she was doing Bible
Speaker 2: study in the house. And my mom is like deeply
Speaker 2: rooted in Christ. So she's been preaching, like I said, forever.
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I grew up in church. So I
Speaker 2: grew up believing in God, believing in heaven and Hell.
Speaker 2: But you're always taught, especially in southern Black church in
Speaker 2: Black community, you're told that, you know, it's kind of jokingly,
Speaker 2: but the only ghost that we acknowledge is the holy ghost,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you don't really
Speaker 2: acknowledge ghosts. Anything else is considered demonic or a demon
Speaker 2: or the devil. Like, so we never played with that
Speaker 2: type of stuff, never acknowledge that type of stuff. So
Speaker 2: it is kind of weird being an adult and kind
Speaker 2: of like you know, essentially venturing left a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you talk to like what does your
Speaker 3: family think of your TV show?
Speaker 2: So what's dope about my mom? Man? Even though she's
Speaker 2: a pastor and everything, like she's never you know, they say,
Speaker 2: like preachers kids are the worst kids, because like, yeah, exactly, man,
Speaker 2: but I guess you could say that. But like my
Speaker 2: mom is always She's never like she's always brought me
Speaker 2: up in the church. But I don't feel like she
Speaker 2: has ever put these unrealistic expectations on me just for
Speaker 2: being the preacher's kid, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 2: I was still a yeah, like I was still getting
Speaker 2: in trouble, Like I was still Like it wasn't like
Speaker 2: he's over I don't know, like he's overbearing expectations for me.
Speaker 2: Like I was still allowed to get in trouble, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it wasn't like you're the
Speaker 2: preacher's kid. Sit down, you gotta you know, sit in
Speaker 2: your room and read your Bible all day long. Like Nah,
Speaker 2: she let me be a kid like you know me,
Speaker 2: like I get to spend it for school, for fight
Speaker 2: like he was. She allowed me to be a normal person,
Speaker 2: so that I think that has always bred in me,
Speaker 2: the freedom to explore and to ask questions. And so
Speaker 2: it just wasn't until I was an adult that I
Speaker 2: knew that, you know, I saw that this ghost hunting
Speaker 2: thing was actually a thing, and I tried it. And
Speaker 2: it's just we've just been fortunate enough that God blessed
Speaker 2: us with the opportunity to be taking this journey in
Speaker 2: front of the world. Like it's people every day that
Speaker 2: pick up a new hobby, but it's very rare that
Speaker 2: the moment you pick up a new hobby, the world
Speaker 2: to watch.
Speaker 4: You like figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean when the TV show started, was
Speaker 3: that like the beginnings of you doing.
Speaker 2: So what happened was Juana and well, all three of
Speaker 2: us have a background in television, So Juwan and I
Speaker 2: worked in wardrobe for BT. So all the shows in
Speaker 2: Atlanta that shot on BT, from the Monique Show to
Speaker 2: Let's Stay Together to like whatever of the game, like
Speaker 2: all those shows that played on BET, we worked on
Speaker 2: those shows doing wardrobe. Marcus worked on a lot of
Speaker 2: those shows doing hair. So literally we're watching TV shows
Speaker 2: be made every single day, but we're not thinking too
Speaker 2: much of it. And it wasn't until one night Jawanna
Speaker 2: and I were roommate. This is after college, this is
Speaker 2: us working for BT in our earlier years, our younger years,
Speaker 2: and I was watching one of the ghost Hunter shows
Speaker 2: late at night, in and out of sleep, and I
Speaker 2: was like, dang, man, like, I wonder why I don't
Speaker 2: see any representation to me on any of these shows.
Speaker 2: I don't see any black people. I don't see any
Speaker 2: gay people. I don't see any like, like, just like
Speaker 2: there was no representation other than straight white male honey
Speaker 2: ghosts on TV like that was it, Like no other representation,
Speaker 2: And so I was like, dang, Like, I know other
Speaker 2: people handle stuff differently, and I can speak from the
Speaker 2: perspective of being a black male. I know we handle
Speaker 2: fear totally different, you know what I mean, Like these
Speaker 2: guys are going to hear brave, but like as an
Speaker 2: everyday average person, black male, shit, I be petrified going
Speaker 2: into this situation, you know what I mean. And then
Speaker 2: with my Southern Christian beliefs or upbringing and being taught
Speaker 2: that you ain't supposed to play with this stuff and
Speaker 2: the devil, I'm already a little hesitant. So I was
Speaker 2: just curious how that would look. And I've never seen
Speaker 2: it before. So we were looking for black ghost hunters
Speaker 2: to see if we could find any, and literally we
Speaker 2: looked high and low and couldn't find any black people
Speaker 2: doing it. So we were like, shit, we might as
Speaker 2: well try.
Speaker 3: I think about that all the time. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think representation is so important, and that's one thing that
Speaker 3: I love about what you guys have done because I
Speaker 3: feel the same way where I'm like, I don't see
Speaker 3: anybody like me in this world of paranormal, So I
Speaker 3: guess I have to be the one to do it,
Speaker 3: and I'm happy.
Speaker 2: To do exactly exactly, And all it takes is for
Speaker 2: someone to see it and for them to give whatever
Speaker 2: that the spotlight to be shed on it, and it
Speaker 2: just has to be the right time. So, like I said,
Speaker 2: we we end up going. We went on craigs List
Speaker 2: because we knew all right to shoot this concept. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean to see to make a do
Speaker 2: a ghost hunting show. We don't know anything about equipment.
Speaker 2: We don't know anything about ghost hunting, so all we
Speaker 2: know is shit. You need a camera and you ask questions,
Speaker 2: Maybe get a Wiji board, maybe get you know me,
Speaker 2: get a recorder. But that's the shit of our knowledge
Speaker 2: of doing this. So we went on craigs List and
Speaker 2: put an ad on Craig was looking for someone with
Speaker 2: a camera that could film us doing a documentary. So
Speaker 2: we get a response from a guy named Spike Spielberg.
Speaker 3: So that is that a real name, famous directors.
Speaker 2: That is exactly what he did. That is exactly what
Speaker 2: he did. So he looks like a person like when
Speaker 2: you meet him, you'll be like, oh, okay, yeah, you
Speaker 2: seem like the type of guy that would combine the
Speaker 2: two names of some people to make your moniker.
Speaker 4: But so he's this.
Speaker 2: Big, old hood, tall black dude. Like, nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2: I'm just giving you the facts, big old hood black dude.
Speaker 2: He has like a white Beater T shirt on, he
Speaker 2: has like a black and mile a cigar in his mouth,
Speaker 2: and he literally has a camera, which is a great camera.
Speaker 2: But do you remember, I'm not sure how old you are,
Speaker 2: but do you remember the thing that people used to
Speaker 2: put on the steering wheel to lock the steering wheel.
Speaker 5: Back in the day, the claw or something whatever it's called. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: So back in the day before like all the back
Speaker 5: when people had the alarms where the viper protected by
Speaker 5: viper step, back like back when car security was really big,
Speaker 5: they had this little metal bar you can put on
Speaker 5: the steering wheel and locks your steering wheels or people
Speaker 5: try to steer your steal your car, they can't steer
Speaker 5: the steering wheel because it's this big metal clamp locke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he had this big metal clamp, the claw,
Speaker 2: from that you put on your steering wheel. And he
Speaker 2: had duct taped his camera to the claw to make
Speaker 2: a steady cam. So he holds these metal bars and
Speaker 2: he can get a really clean shot while he's walking
Speaker 2: and moving because the camera is now duct taped to
Speaker 2: these bars. So he had like hood rigged all these
Speaker 2: equipment to do it.
Speaker 3: You know how many times I have duct taped my
Speaker 3: phone to the wall to film an audition or something.
Speaker 2: Exactly what you had. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2: But we get him and he comes and we're like, look,
Speaker 2: here's the deal, and be completely honest with you. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be hunting ghosts and we're gonna be driving to Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 4: And you would have.
Speaker 2: Thought this dude like has seen a ghost the way
Speaker 2: he reacted, we told him, but he was down. He
Speaker 2: was down, And this was probably like one of the
Speaker 2: craziest things that happened to us. We went all the
Speaker 2: way to Savannah, Georgia to just try to film this
Speaker 2: idea of these black guys hunting ghosts. And we get
Speaker 2: to Savannah running to this white lady in the middle
Speaker 2: of the square in downtown Savannah, and we just start
Speaker 2: talking to her. She's behind like this little information desk
Speaker 2: and she's like, what are you guys here for? And
Speaker 2: we're like, you know, we're here to hunt ghosts. And
Speaker 2: she was like okay, she was like, meet me at
Speaker 2: this address at nine o'clock tonight.
Speaker 4: What okay. So we don't ask.
Speaker 2: Too many questions, but we meet her at this address
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock that night and we get to do
Speaker 2: square and there's a group of people congregating outside that
Speaker 2: look like they're about to go on a tour, and
Speaker 2: so we joined the tour and we see this lady,
Speaker 2: but she doesn't look like she looked earlier in the day.
Speaker 2: Now she's dressed in like eighteen hundreds garb. Right, she
Speaker 2: looked like she literally just walked out of like eighteen
Speaker 2: fifty four Gone with the Wind type shit, and like
Speaker 2: it's there. But she's like standing off to the side
Speaker 2: and no one saying anything to her. But we're not
Speaker 2: thinking anything. We're like, all right, we're just gonna join
Speaker 2: this tour. We didn't even say anything to her. We
Speaker 2: you know, gave her a little head nod, but nothing crazy.
Speaker 2: You know. We joined the tour, but we found out
Speaker 2: that it's a hunted, walking drinking tour of Savannah. So
Speaker 2: we walked through all these different bars of downtown Savannah.
Speaker 2: This tour guide is stopping giving us ghost stories, telling
Speaker 2: us about all the crazy things that's happened in these locations.
Speaker 2: But every place that we went to, this woman is
Speaker 2: always off in the distance, right, nobody saying anything tour,
Speaker 2: nobody's acknowledging her. But every place that we go, she's
Speaker 2: literally dressed in her eighteen hundreds garb lingering off in
Speaker 2: the distance.
Speaker 3: This is the same woman from before.
Speaker 2: This is the same woman that we bumped into earlier
Speaker 2: in the day. Okay, okay, I know it sounds weird,
Speaker 2: but just follow me. So she's literally we go to
Speaker 2: like six locations. Every location she's off in the distance
Speaker 2: by herself, either in a corner or like off to
Speaker 2: the side or across the street. Like just weird. So
Speaker 2: the tour is like two two and a half hours,
Speaker 2: it's over. It's eleven thirty maybe midnight. Now it ends
Speaker 2: in downtown Savannah. Everyone disperses to go home. Me Juwan
Speaker 2: and this hood Spike Spielberg are standing there. The woman
Speaker 2: comes from across the street. Once everyone leaves, and she
Speaker 2: was like, hey, do you guys want to hear some stories?
Speaker 2: And we was like, damn, Like it's midnight. This old
Speaker 2: white lady dressing eighteen hundred guard like she wanted to
Speaker 2: still kick it with us, Like I wouldn't even want
Speaker 2: to kick it with us. It's like if I would
Speaker 2: have bumped into us that late at night in downtown Savannah.
Speaker 2: And of course we like, we're here to see where
Speaker 2: this trip takes us. So we was like all right,
Speaker 2: So she literally walks us through downtown Savannah, Georgia. If
Speaker 2: they ever been in downtown Savannah, they have like all
Speaker 2: these different courtyards with these big weeping willow trees hanging down,
Speaker 2: like it just looks like old South Plantation. Savannah's just
Speaker 2: an old city. It's beautiful, but it looks like a
Speaker 2: lot of shit happened.
Speaker 3: There back in the day super Haunted.
Speaker 2: Super Haunted. So as we're walking through these courtyards, she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: so there's a spirit of a young boy that was
Speaker 2: hung from a tree back in eighteen fifty four here.
Speaker 2: But then we're walking in the building, she said, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you look in that window, there's the spirit of
Speaker 2: a young man who back in the game he used
Speaker 2: to run this building when he was Da Da Da Dae.
Speaker 2: So we're literally walking through downtown for about an hour
Speaker 2: and she's just telling.
Speaker 4: Us all every corner we took.
Speaker 2: Every she would point to a building and be like,
Speaker 2: there's a spirit of so and so here, Like she
Speaker 2: just knew everything and everyone. So like we're vetted into this,
Speaker 2: like investing into this woman in her stories.
Speaker 4: And we're walking and we're walking.
Speaker 2: And she just stops and she was like, before you
Speaker 2: leave here, make sure you tell every spirit to stay
Speaker 2: and they're not.
Speaker 4: Welcome to follow you home.
Speaker 2: And we was like huh. She was like, make sure
Speaker 2: you tell all the spirits to stay and they're not
Speaker 2: welcome to follow you home. Say it now, So Me, Jawan,
Speaker 2: and Spike we all said it at the same time,
Speaker 2: and she kind of was just like it was like okay.
Speaker 2: So we started walking and we get to a corner
Speaker 2: and she was like, Hey, can I show you guys
Speaker 2: one more thing? And I was like sure, what is it?
Speaker 2: She was like, I want to take you to this cemetery.
Speaker 2: It's right around the corner.
Speaker 4: And I was like, shit, hey, yeah, but you want.
Speaker 2: To Spike was like hell no, bro, We're not going
Speaker 2: to follow this old white lady into a graveyard. Bro,
Speaker 2: we don't know what's about to happen around your bed.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, yah, you're right, you're right
Speaker 2: right right. I need to chill. So I told her.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, thank you, but you know,
Speaker 2: we feel like you've shown us a lot, like we
Speaker 2: appreciate that.
Speaker 3: We just make you guys walking down like there's probably
Speaker 3: people out at bars or something like the window eighteen
Speaker 3: hundred woman.
Speaker 2: I probably so we literally she's like, okay, so we're
Speaker 2: at this. You know, we're at the end of the street.
Speaker 2: So you either can turn right or you can turn left.
Speaker 2: You can't go straight. Either can turn right or left.
Speaker 2: So we turned right. She turns left, and I promise you,
Speaker 2: hand to god. We probably took five and I turned
Speaker 2: around to look at her and she was gone, like
Speaker 2: there was no one there, Like I mean I only
Speaker 2: took five steps. And this is an old lady like
Speaker 2: Shohnny couldn't run that fast, right, Like she couldn't be
Speaker 2: in the corner like she like that fast, and like
Speaker 2: there was no place for her to turn into nothing.
Speaker 4: Like literally we turned around, we.
Speaker 2: Took four to five steps and I turned back, gone, gone.
Speaker 3: Is I have goosebumps and all of you guys, three of.
Speaker 2: Us the whole time.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: But what makes it crazy was that we started thinking
Speaker 2: was that's when we started to think back, like, damn,
Speaker 2: nobody did talk to her when we was walking this
Speaker 2: whole time, you know what I'm saying. She was like
Speaker 2: we thought it was weird that she was off the side,
Speaker 2: But now thinking back, like nobody even said anything to her,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like nobody was like, oh man,
Speaker 2: it's a nice outfit, Like you know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 2: nobody said nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if that's like somebody cosplaying or something like,
Speaker 3: they want they want the compliments, they want people to
Speaker 3: talk to them.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Wait a minute, actually, so.
Speaker 3: But what was she If you guys would look at
Speaker 3: her during the tour, was she staring at you?
Speaker 2: She would be like off to the side, watching the group.
Speaker 2: So the group it was probably honestly, it's probably like fifteen,
Speaker 2: no more than twenty people. And so the way that
Speaker 2: it works is they take you to a bar. You're walking,
Speaker 2: so you probably walk maybe five or six blocks, but
Speaker 2: you're stopping at these haunted bars you go in, you
Speaker 2: buy a drink. Maybe the attic of this one bar
Speaker 2: may bee haunting. So they'll take you up to the attic.
Speaker 2: So it'll be fifteen of us in this big, huge attic,
Speaker 2: and like I remember specifically, it was one one location.
Speaker 2: They made us stand in a circle in the attic
Speaker 2: and then they were saying that like there's usually a
Speaker 2: spirit somewhere here that will walk in between people, and
Speaker 2: here la and we all stood in this circle, but
Speaker 2: the lady was in the corner like watching all of us.
Speaker 2: But nobody said anything though, And that's what blew me.
Speaker 2: Like the dude who was running the show, like he
Speaker 2: didn't say, hey, come on, like come get in here.
Speaker 3: But it's so weird that like the three of you
Speaker 3: were the only ones that saw her, Like that's so strange.
Speaker 2: But again, I I don't know what anyone else saw.
Speaker 2: I just know no one else acknowledged her. Could everybody
Speaker 2: else could have saw the same thing. They could have
Speaker 2: been saying the same thing.
Speaker 4: Like why in the corner? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But nobody seemed to be drawn to you guys.
Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, she definitely was. She definitely was for
Speaker 2: her to come up to us afterwards for her to
Speaker 2: we would have never went to that location if she
Speaker 2: would have never met her earlier in the day, and
Speaker 2: she just gave us this random address.
Speaker 3: But what was she wearing earlier in the day.
Speaker 2: Was she wearing regular clothes? And that's the thing. That's
Speaker 2: the thing. They didn't even it was the same lady,
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't have recognized her. So when we saw
Speaker 2: her early in the day, she just looked normal. But
Speaker 2: that night she had this garb on, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: until you had to really look and be like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: that's the lady from.
Speaker 4: Earlier in the day.
Speaker 2: Wow, he was one of the Like when we walked up,
Speaker 2: she didn't greet us or anything like it. We never
Speaker 2: talked to her until afterwards when she walked up to us.
Speaker 2: It was like, can I show you some more shit?
Speaker 3: This story is insane, man, I.
Speaker 2: Know, it's the craziest shit. It's literally the craziest shit
Speaker 2: that's ever happened. But what I take away from that is,
Speaker 2: ever since then, every location that we've ever gone to,
Speaker 2: before we leave, we make sure to tell the spirits
Speaker 2: to stay and not follow us. All. We feel like
Speaker 2: that was the purpose of all of that.
Speaker 3: We never knew that.
Speaker 2: We never knew that, we never heard of that, And sorry,
Speaker 2: go ahead, No, I was gonna say, I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I think by her making us say that in the
Speaker 2: moment stopped her from maybe being attached to us. Does
Speaker 2: that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Total crazy. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know
Speaker 2: shit that shit. Ma.
Speaker 3: Weren't you guys filming? Was she on the camera at all?
Speaker 2: So we went out tell me how crazy this is?
Speaker 2: So we went out there with all the intentions to film.
Speaker 2: So we we we rented to investigate because we went
Speaker 2: out there to investigate a location. So it was like
Speaker 2: a seventeen ten inn or something or seventeen ninety in
Speaker 2: So we bought a room where this is supposed to
Speaker 2: be hind it and that's where we were going to investigate.
Speaker 2: But we met this lady. She'd had us to meet
Speaker 2: her at this address, so we we had a GoPro
Speaker 2: camera and when we got to the location where she
Speaker 2: gave us the address and we realized it was a tour.
Speaker 2: The man that ran the tour saw our camera and
Speaker 2: he was like, you can't have cameras here. Cut your
Speaker 2: cameras off on this tool. Wow, So we couldn't even
Speaker 2: have our cameras on that whole time that we were,
Speaker 2: you know, me walking around and stuff. And by the
Speaker 2: time it was over, we're just walking with this lady.
Speaker 2: We're not even thinking about it anymore. Like now it's
Speaker 2: just we're just walking. Because our whole purpose of bringing
Speaker 2: Spikes Pielberg was to film our investigation, which was at
Speaker 2: this hotel. But we met this lady and earlier in
Speaker 2: the day that had us to just meet her at
Speaker 2: this random location with turn into this whole random adventure,
Speaker 2: so that was all dead.
Speaker 3: She must work for the tour, like she must be
Speaker 3: a ghost that they have on payroll because she's like
Speaker 3: getting people to get to buy tickets.
Speaker 2: It almost felt like you know that game, that three
Speaker 2: card money game, and it's always like three people working together,
Speaker 2: Like it's the person that like the three shell game
Speaker 2: where they have like a person on the street and
Speaker 2: even like have the cup and they put a thing
Speaker 2: in the cup and you gotta find but there's always
Speaker 2: like three people working together, like you always have one
Speaker 2: person that like wins the money and they're getting the
Speaker 2: crowd excited, like, oh, she's winning that I can win,
Speaker 2: not knowing that she's working.
Speaker 3: Yes, plant, yeah, yeah, oh my god. Well, it would
Speaker 3: have been funny if she's a real ghost, like which
Speaker 3: I definitely believe she is from what you say, Like,
Speaker 3: it would be funny if she was just sitting in
Speaker 3: the corner, like as the guy's telling the story and
Speaker 3: then this is where the person that if she was like, no,
Speaker 3: it didn't happen, if she's just hackling the whole time,
Speaker 3: right right, But we do laugh.
Speaker 4: We'll not really laugh, but we talk about it now.
Speaker 2: We're like, dang, what do you think she could have
Speaker 2: wanted to show us in the cemetery? Like where what
Speaker 2: was that? Where was that going to end? Like you know,
Speaker 2: if we did go what where were we going to go?
Speaker 2: And she was like, I want to show you something
Speaker 2: in this cemetery. It was only because she said cemetery
Speaker 2: that Jawanna and Spike was like, hell no, Like, have you.
Speaker 3: Guys thought about doing this as an episode, like going
Speaker 3: back and looking for her?
Speaker 2: We talked about it because we went back to Savannah.
Speaker 2: So every year now we do Ghost Brothers Weekend and
Speaker 2: it's in Savannah. It's always holiday weekend, and yeah, we
Speaker 2: do investigations. People fly out. We brought it in Chip
Speaker 2: Coffee last year, so yeah, we make this big event
Speaker 2: and we found ourselves in that same courtyard where we
Speaker 2: met her probably last year, and it was just me
Speaker 2: and Joan were just.
Speaker 4: Talking about it.
Speaker 2: But nah, she wasn't there, but we were in that
Speaker 2: same spot and it just brought back all those emotions
Speaker 2: and memories.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about race because you guys obviously
Speaker 3: you know, I love that you talk about it, and
Speaker 3: it's wonderful that, like now so much of the country
Speaker 3: is having these great conversations about race and you guys,
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys have been around for a couple
Speaker 3: of years now, and I just think it's amazing that
Speaker 3: you guys, I mean you even say, like in the
Speaker 3: intro of the show, like why is everyone so white?
Speaker 3: And you like actually address it. You know, sadly in America,
Speaker 3: the history concerning race and black people and especially is
Speaker 3: dark and you can't avoid it. And I think some
Speaker 3: paranormal shows yeah kind of gloss over maybe at times,
Speaker 3: or you know, they they talk about it in a
Speaker 3: different way. And is that is that something that you guys, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, is that intentional that you guys go to
Speaker 3: you know, underground railroad stops and plantations and that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So no, to answer your question, let me tell you why.
Speaker 2: So when we came into it, we shot all of
Speaker 2: this stuff for Ghost Brothers years ago, years before we
Speaker 2: got on television. Right, So, once we got all this
Speaker 2: footage and stuff with Spikes Fieldberg, we didn't know what
Speaker 2: to do with it. We didn't know what we were doing.
Speaker 2: We just were trying to just do something we have
Speaker 2: never seen before. We didn't have a plan for it.
Speaker 4: So once we edited all.
Speaker 2: The footage, we just put it on YouTube and literally
Speaker 2: I moved to La to do some other stuff. Man,
Speaker 2: probably like four or five years later, I'm driving for Uber, right,
Speaker 2: and so I get an email randomly while I have
Speaker 2: a customer in a car. I'm at a ran light
Speaker 2: and I look at my email and someone has seen
Speaker 2: my cliff that we put on YouTube, and Destination America,
Speaker 2: who's owned by Discovery Channel, reached out to us, and
Speaker 2: that's how we got saw to do the TV show.
Speaker 2: So this was a time where I don't know if
Speaker 2: you remember, there was a time probably about in twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen that campaign Oscar So White where Oscar Yeah? Right,
Speaker 2: So during that right, after that, an influx of like
Speaker 2: minority television was approved in greenlit for TV. So this
Speaker 2: is right throughing the window of Remember Blackish came out
Speaker 2: on the what's that the show with the Asian Americans
Speaker 2: all fresh off the boat came out. Yeah, so all
Speaker 2: of these minority driven television shows were green light green
Speaker 2: lit in this era and we were a part of
Speaker 2: that with the Discovery Family being the first black paranormal
Speaker 2: shows and so in coming in they linked us up
Speaker 2: with a production company and it's kind of crazy. It's like,
Speaker 2: and it sucks, man that there's no all right, the
Speaker 2: little bit of diversity you see on television, it's equal
Speaker 2: to or even more the lack of diversity you see
Speaker 2: behind the scenes as well, if that makes sense, You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's the same, right, So the
Speaker 2: same type of faces you see OTV are the same
Speaker 2: type of faces running the show behind it, and you
Speaker 2: have them trying to create content for minorities, but they
Speaker 2: aren't a part of that minority. It's like trying to
Speaker 2: have a straight mail or write a role for, you know,
Speaker 2: a trans person, Like if you don't understand any of that,
Speaker 2: how can you write to relate to create for that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Does that make sense? Can
Speaker 2: a white person write something for the perspective of a
Speaker 2: black person if you don't, if you didn't grow up,
Speaker 2: no live face the same things. And we find that
Speaker 2: in television. It just seemed like when we got the show,
Speaker 2: they linked us up with this production company who was
Speaker 2: all white people, which is fine, cool, super dope, But
Speaker 2: it seems like every location that they were throwing at
Speaker 2: us at first was like it was like, all right,
Speaker 2: here's the first one. This one's a stop on the
Speaker 2: underground railroad. All right, that's cool. All right. Episode two,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take you to this slave plantation and in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Al Right, okay, all right, okay. Is that all we're
Speaker 2: looking for? You know what I'm saying, like black Ghost,
Speaker 2: that is that? Is that the direction that we're going
Speaker 2: with this show? And we had to have that conversation.
Speaker 2: And but once that conversation was found, we had to realize, like,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that, and it's super dope because
Speaker 2: we get to offer a perspective that wasn't naturally offered
Speaker 2: in the in the past. So like that and that's
Speaker 2: an honor We had to look at it like, bro,
Speaker 2: we're looking at it backwards, like we're like, why y'all
Speaker 2: keep throwing us in these black situations because we're black.
Speaker 2: But then it's like hell no, it's like you're getting
Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak for these situations. So, like in the.
Speaker 3: Past, stories are being told that people don't really.
Speaker 2: Hear exactly exactly. But you have like the Magnolia Plantation
Speaker 2: episode where the story was the slaves of this plantation
Speaker 2: are hunting this place. But in all actuality, we go
Speaker 2: there and we start doing research and we find out that, oh,
Speaker 2: so they rip these slaves from Africa, brought them to
Speaker 2: this plantation in Louisiana, and the only thing that they
Speaker 2: left them with was their religion and then their religon
Speaker 2: and they practice Hoodoo in Africa, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: this whole religion that kind of is similar to Christianity.
Speaker 2: But you have this one slave on the plantation who's
Speaker 2: essentially the voodoo priests. Yeah you call her Voodoo priests.
Speaker 2: That's essentially their spiritual counselor of the slaves, and in
Speaker 2: their ideology, they pray for protection. They don't have any weapons,
Speaker 2: they don't have any way to protect themselves. They're forced
Speaker 2: into slavery by these white counterparts, and all they have
Speaker 2: is their faith to get them through day to day.
Speaker 2: So and then their faith this voodoo priests. What she
Speaker 2: would do is the slaves would give her small trinkets
Speaker 2: for them. She would pray over those trinkets, and to
Speaker 2: provide protection for the slaves, she would bury these trinkets
Speaker 2: around her cabin and perform some type of ceremony. Flash
Speaker 2: forward to today, some archaeologists was digging.
Speaker 4: Around, as motherfucker dug up all of.
Speaker 2: These shits, and now like all hell is breaking loose
Speaker 2: on this planlantation, and so like our white counterparts who
Speaker 2: went to investigate, it was, oh, this plantation is you know,
Speaker 2: being hunted by these these the you know, the slaves
Speaker 2: of Da Da Da dah. But when we got there,
Speaker 2: it was like the energy was totally different. It was
Speaker 2: the explanation of this is all we had was our faith. No,
Speaker 2: we aren't doing this for no reason, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like this is all that we could do.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like we didn't have any
Speaker 2: way to protect ourselves other than protection and prayer and faith.
Speaker 2: So it just allows us to look at certain stories
Speaker 2: from a different light. For us being on a plantation
Speaker 2: and looking up in the sky has seen a thousand
Speaker 2: stars in these deep country Louisiana back road plantations. But
Speaker 2: you realizing, like, damn, two hundred years ago, your ancestors
Speaker 2: couldn't have looked up in the sky and appreciated this,
Speaker 2: because shit, they would have got their ass beat. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like taking for granted these little
Speaker 2: small moments, and it's just yeah, I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: like we've learned so much and we've been open and
Speaker 2: introduced so many different things because of this opportunity.
Speaker 4: Like I'm forever grateful for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I could talk to you for forever,
Speaker 3: but I'm realizing we're like going over time, and I
Speaker 3: hope that we can talk to you again, maybe when
Speaker 3: the season comes out, or.
Speaker 2: For sure for sure, we would love to and I
Speaker 2: can get the guys and come on too.
Speaker 3: Please, Oh my god, what a pleasure. Well, thank you,
Speaker 3: I really appreciate your time. And this should be posted
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks, and good luck with the
Speaker 3: shooting of.
Speaker 2: The Thank you, thank you so much, and best of
Speaker 2: luck with your show super dope. I love that you're
Speaker 2: doing it. Definitely spread the word and yeah, we're definitely
Speaker 2: looking forward to coming back. Yeah, we would love to
Speaker 2: come back once the show gets out or getting ready
Speaker 2: to come out, so we can talk about that more
Speaker 2: and our new experiences and all of that. So cool.
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you so much, have a great
Speaker 3: day you too. Thank you, wow, thank you so much
Speaker 3: to Dylan, and I hope at some point to have
Speaker 3: the other Ghost brothers on the show, and I hope
Speaker 3: to have Daylan back and we can hear some EVPs. Again,
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