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Speaker 1: you watch the show on Peacock, you know we have

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Speaker 1: a house dog, Penny, and that's the big Germans dog.

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Speaker 1: We have a new edition YEP. On my vacation, my

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Speaker 1: wife somehow convinced me that we needed a new dog.

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Speaker 1: Needed So on Saturday she said, I've got this arranged.

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Speaker 1: It's from East Coast Canine, the rescue place that we

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Speaker 1: brought in Penny from. And all I had to do

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Speaker 1: is drive two hours to go pick up the package.

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Speaker 1: I pick up the package. We don't know what kind

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Speaker 1: of breed Winnie is, but we know that Winnie is

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Speaker 1: here to stay and we brought her into the man

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Speaker 1: cave this morning. Accidents everywhere, but that's okay. She's a puppy.

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Speaker 1: But if you get an opportunity and you're looking to

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Speaker 1: get a rescue. East Coast Canine did a wonderful job.

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Speaker 1: We also Pennies Bang Biscuits, great dog foods for I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Winnie is ready for that yet, but

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Speaker 1: Penny certainly is. We have our own dog biscuits here,

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Speaker 1: and we have some hand picked partners in the pet

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Speaker 1: industry that we're donating some of the proceeds to Bang

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Speaker 1: Biscuits Gourmet dog biscuits there. But got a new puppy

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Speaker 1: and I forgot you gotta wake up. You know. It

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Speaker 1: was one fifty in the morning, and I went, I

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Speaker 1: gotta take the dog out. You take the dog out.

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Speaker 1: The dog doesn't know the dog is supposed to go out.

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Speaker 1: The dogs like, what are we doing? It's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's in the it's late late at nine early in

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Speaker 1: the morning. You know, it's went out here on the

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Speaker 1: ground and you're just standing there holding the dog on

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Speaker 1: a leash. And she didn't do anything. And I took

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Speaker 1: her back in, put her in her little kennel, little

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Speaker 1: little kennel there and so happy to see me in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, point, did you agree to this or

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Speaker 1: was it already green upon without your input? Am I

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Speaker 1: going down a bad road. No, no, we had a

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Speaker 1: good conversation, but my wife was well down the road.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of like a guy who has friends with boats,

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Speaker 1: Like you love playing, going on the boat, bringing the

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Speaker 1: beer to the boat. You're a great friend to go

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Speaker 1: on boats with. But like now, you gotta take care

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Speaker 1: you want a friend of a boat. Yes, Like the

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Speaker 1: big German has Penny, Yes, you pat it and play

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Speaker 1: with it. I love Penny, and but the big German

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Speaker 1: takes Penny home. Yes, me clubbing. But I could see

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Speaker 1: you fall in love so hard, so fast. I saw

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Speaker 1: you outside with that thing. There's no separated YouTube for

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Speaker 1: the life. Oh I know that. I mean I'm aware

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Speaker 1: But I'm the one that's going to be with this puppy.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that's up at two in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that's going to be there with her,

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Speaker 1: you know, this afternoon and when she's teething and then

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Speaker 1: loves so much. Yeah, yeah, man, that's the classic dad

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Speaker 1: roll of the dog. I know. Well, there's videos that

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Speaker 1: my kids keep sending me of the dad saying to

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Speaker 1: this dog. Next thing, you know, you know, the dad

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Speaker 1: is holding the dog and loving the dog. Paully didn't

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Speaker 1: want a dog, No, didn't want a dog. For years,

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Speaker 1: I kept saying, Paulli, you love the outdoors, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden the kids wore me down.

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Speaker 1: Paully's all in getting his puppy. Mclovin's next. I already said,

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Speaker 1: a video of your dog for the girls. It's a

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Speaker 1: hard full corpress every day, seven days a week. Oh

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Speaker 1: so if you're watching on Peacock, we call her. When

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Speaker 1: So far good? A little traumatic, you know. She had

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Speaker 1: that's what I did on my vacation. I got a puppy.

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Speaker 1: your vacation. Let me start with the most interesting man here, mclovin.

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Speaker 1: What did you do? So? I spent the first half

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Speaker 1: I took a quick trip to Atlanta. That turned into

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Speaker 1: something unexpected because there was an event down in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys were aware of this.

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Speaker 1: That brought every bizarre celebrity you've ever seen in your

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Speaker 1: life down there. That's a tease. I could tell it

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Speaker 1: was a fight. Oh is that the Oh God, that

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Speaker 1: it was the most I was only there for two days,

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Speaker 1: visiting a couple of friends, and I must have seen

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Speaker 1: or her like every weird, like b list celebrity you've

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Speaker 1: a UFC guy. I guess on Saturday night on pay

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Speaker 1: I was already gone. I didn't even know what the

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Speaker 1: There was so much hype leading up to this, and

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking, Okay, this guy, Jake Paul is a

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Speaker 1: internet I don't know what is he an influencer, used

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Speaker 1: like a early you know, he was a yeah YouTube guy,

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Speaker 1: very famous. Okay, but he's had a couple of fights.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's fighting a thirty six year old

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Speaker 1: and I said, well, how about he just fights a fighter.

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, if he fought Floyd Mayweather and they did MMA,

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Speaker 1: he would kill Floyd Mayweather. He would have him on

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Speaker 1: Paul knocks him out, and I went to wake me

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Speaker 1: did you run into him? Well, Chuck Liddell was there randomly.

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Speaker 1: Remember remember my moment with Chuck Lidell where I called

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Speaker 1: him out when he did that battery commercial? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I said he didn't look like he was in shape.

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Speaker 1: And next thing I know, Chuck Lidell's on the phone.

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Speaker 1: He wants to talk to me. Who is the guy

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Speaker 1: who came into studio and almost killed all of us?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't oh, very nice guy. But he shaking my hand,

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Speaker 1: he broke like three bones. That guy looked like the

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Speaker 1: But my big run in was who I'll let you guess. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who do you run into in Atlanta? Who does everybody

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Speaker 1: run into? Who's everyone's best friend? Who happens to be

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Speaker 1: Chuck Nope, close other side of the desk, Charles Barkley,

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Speaker 1: and he had a message for you that I will

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Speaker 1: show you in a look in later. You're gonna show me. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we recorded a little video, did okay? Yeah? Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: just had a nice little Charles note for you. All right,

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Speaker 1: Fritzie fifteen seconds on what you did on vacation. I

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Speaker 1: visited family in Brooklyn. I went to home depot looking

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Speaker 1: weekend and went for some walks around the neighborhood Seaton O'Connor.

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Speaker 1: I brought my son to soccer every day, which is awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's like my favorite thing to do. And then I've

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Speaker 1: been working on this apartment. Then I'm renovating that's so

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Speaker 1: far hasn't been going seely as unlike it to go.

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Speaker 1: If you could go back in time and pay somebody

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Speaker 1: there's like some electrical things that I'm not comfortable doing that.

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Speaker 1: it better or worse? I'm making it better. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: order to go forward. Oh what did you do on

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Speaker 1: your family? Went down to Georgia Coastal Georgia and South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: And I did try kayaking for the first time. It's tricky.

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Speaker 1: that you would have thought I'd never been just getting in.

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Speaker 1: club kayaking, So got tricky, Like I, five year olds

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Speaker 1: getting in a cut. Getting in it is hard, I admit.

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Speaker 1: But once you're on the water, no, no, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: it couldn't possibly be easier. No, that one's fine. You're

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Speaker 1: getting in and out kayak. Then I'm an Olympian. It's

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Speaker 1: getting in and getting out where I'm I'm in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I'm in distress. Yes, I saw some dolphins in the

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Speaker 1: But then on a bank about fifty yards from I left,

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Speaker 1: Now he didn't bother me. I didn't bother him, but

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Speaker 1: got to remember back in twenty nineteen, when this young

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Speaker 1: man was nineteen years old, he put together one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest seasons Joey ever see a wide receiver put together.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't simply because LSU was better than every

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Speaker 1: one else. Wasn't simply because Joe Burrow wound up being

426
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Speaker 1: the number one overall pickus. It was because this guy

427
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Speaker 1: torched every single sec defensive back he went up against,

428
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Speaker 1: and many of them were very good, very good players

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Speaker 1: who wind up getting drafted high in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: when you just think, when you look at how just

431
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Speaker 1: how he's constructed as far as his body type, I mean,

432
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Speaker 1: the guys rock saw him. He's a monster, and he's fast,

433
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't drop passes. He runs great routes. He

434
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Speaker 1: can run inside, he can run outside, he can run deep,

435
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Speaker 1: he can run short, he can run after the catch,

436
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Speaker 1: he can beat you in fifty fifty balls. I don't

437
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Speaker 1: know what else really you want him to do. And

438
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: he's just hyper competitive. So I mean, I think whoever

439
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Speaker 1: takes him is instantly getting the twelve thirteen hundred yard receiver.

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the best tight end in

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Speaker 1: the league going into the draft or the best offensive lineman.

442
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Speaker 1: If I said you could have Kyle Pitts or Penny's sewell,

443
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Speaker 1: and both both are going to work out, But the

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Speaker 1: priority of getting a great tight end or a great

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, well, I think in the context of team building,

446
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Speaker 1: then I'm always going to go inside out. I'm always

447
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: going to build the team front the back. So I'm

448
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Speaker 1: going to make sure I take care of the people

449
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Speaker 1: who are throwing the football to those guys who are

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Speaker 1: pretty catching the ball on the outside. And that's why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't when the conversation comes up about Cincinnati or well,

452
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Speaker 1: I'm really not about Atlanta because the land is not

453
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Speaker 1: in the market for a tackle. But when the conversation

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Speaker 1: comes up for Cincinnati, that's why I'm always going to

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Speaker 1: defer to either a Penny Sewel or Rashawn Slatter in

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Speaker 1: order to protect Joe Burrow. You just can't. You can't

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Speaker 1: get by without it and looking and I think in

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Speaker 1: a small way, although it was a big game on

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Speaker 1: a great stage, we learned then the Super Bowls past. Ye, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just brought that up. I agree you to ignore that.

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Speaker 1: You're just kind of like defying what the football gods

462
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Speaker 1: have always told you is you better take care of

463
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Speaker 1: your lines. I know it doesn't sound it's not fun,

464
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Speaker 1: because you know, Kyle Pitts is probably gonna do some

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Speaker 1: damage on somebody's fantasy team next year. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the point. These two young tackles Seul and Slater and

467
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Speaker 1: or guards whatever wherever you want to play them, are

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Speaker 1: going to be Pro Bowlers and probably going to be

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Speaker 1: All pros very quickly. You have at lanted four and

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Speaker 1: there's sort of the mystery team here. If somebody going

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Speaker 1: to trade out, are they going to take a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take Kyle Pitts. Let's say you're running the Falcons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: knowing what you know right now, draft is tonight, and

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Speaker 1: you know who's going one two, Well, you sort of

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Speaker 1: know who's going one, two and three. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is going three? I do until until you

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Speaker 1: know the data, or rather the information that's coming in

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Speaker 1: says otherwise. And look, the information that we're getting, we're

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Speaker 1: primarily getting from people who are dialed in and tapped

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Speaker 1: into the people who are making those decisions in a

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Speaker 1: way that we know. History has proven that these guys

482
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Speaker 1: are rarely wrong, all right, So it makes sense to

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Speaker 1: me as to why they would go mac Jones and

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot about quarterback play is

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Speaker 1: just not about physical traits. When we get on shows

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Speaker 1: like this, Dan, we've and we've talked and you've talked

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Speaker 1: to many people about this. What happens usually, what is

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Speaker 1: the reason why people usually bust out of the league,

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Speaker 1: especially at quarterback. It's not because well, that guy just

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Speaker 1: didn't have enough armstrangth that guy just couldn't create enough

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Speaker 1: plays off. That's not why. It's because something happened upstairs

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Speaker 1: in his mind. Whether it be the way he played

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Speaker 1: the game on the field from an intelligent perspective, or

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Speaker 1: the way he took care of himself off the field.

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Speaker 1: That's usually what happens. It's something as far as the

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Speaker 1: way they're wired. No one has any issues. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, everyone is louding Matt Jones for the

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Speaker 1: way he's wired. Some great quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: are are praising them for that, and Kyle and whoever

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Speaker 1: else is advising him, whether it be his father, Mike

501
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: or whoever. They know this too, so it wouldn't shock

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Speaker 1: me if they take him now. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know, you hear I heard people over the weekend

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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that Trey Lance could sway them

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Speaker 1: today with his pro day. Tray Lance swayed me from

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Speaker 1: the very first time I talked to him, and then

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Speaker 1: I watched him on his first pro day. Don't discount him.

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Speaker 1: I understand these resumes and as long look, I think

509
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Speaker 1: everything is up is on the table for them, I

510
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Speaker 1: really do. But when people as connected as Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: say what they say, and then he continues to say

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Speaker 1: until proven, until I hear information otherwise this is where

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Speaker 1: I'm going with it, then I'm going with it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you're Atlanta, you're running Atlanta, you're on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Mac Jones has just been selected and the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons select. You know, Actually, what I'm trying to

517
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Speaker 1: do is I'm trying to trade down. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to do. You can't trade down, I know. So

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Speaker 1: now you're saying, do I pick a player? Right? All right, Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those people who likes to think about

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Speaker 1: the long term. Really, Okay, let me just tell you

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Speaker 1: what my thought process is. First of all, the very

523
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Speaker 1: first thing I need on in Atlanta's defense. But I'm

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Speaker 1: going I can't get great. I can't get value at four.

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Speaker 1: I can't. That's why I said I want to trade down. Second, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now what do I want. Do I want to think

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Speaker 1: about the long term as far as making sure I

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Speaker 1: have an air apparent to Matt Ryan, or do I

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Speaker 1: need something right now in the short term to appease

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Speaker 1: my head coach who says Matt Ryan can play for

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Speaker 1: three or four more years and maybe address my quarterback

532
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Speaker 1: position somewhere down the line. You're running out of time

533
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Speaker 1: with your draft. Probably you know what, I'm probably going

534
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Speaker 1: to turn in the card for Kyle Pitts. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I agree with you. Atlanta's problems are

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Speaker 1: defensively in mind. Yeah, so, but you can't. I don't

537
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Speaker 1: know of who's going to trade up, and then what

538
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: do you get when you trade back down there? Yeah,

539
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Speaker 1: you don't want to go too far. If you're Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get out of the mix. You

541
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Speaker 1: don't want to get out of the Maybe somebody wants

542
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Speaker 1: to come up there and somebody wants to grab either

543
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: trade lance or justin Fields or whoever it is at

544
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Speaker 1: that point in time. That's what you're that's what you're

545
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Speaker 1: banking on. You know, we've heard that, We've heard that

546
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Speaker 1: Denver it could possibly be a mover, although there are

547
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Speaker 1: people who have said they have not called Atlanta to

548
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Speaker 1: move up before yet. That's what I'm hoping though. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this, I'm gonna wait until the very last

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Speaker 1: second to turn in that cart my phone. That's what

551
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing. He's Lewis Riddick from the Mothership. Anything in

552
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Speaker 1: the Profile and Sports illustrated on Trevor Lawrence concern you.

553
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Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of brew. However, what

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Speaker 1: I said late last week about this, it caught my attention,

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Speaker 1: all right. It caught my attention because when we're talking

556
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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, when we're talking about quarterbacks, we're going to

557
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Speaker 1: be drafted number one overall. I know Trevor said he

558
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Speaker 1: loves the game and he wants to be the best

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Speaker 1: ever to play it. I know, okay, And I know

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Speaker 1: he says he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder

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Speaker 1: that's great. I've never said anything about that, but I

562
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Speaker 1: will say this quarter back in the NFL, coaches in

563
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Speaker 1: the NFL will tell you the game is much harder

564
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Speaker 1: at the NFL level and requires a different level of

565
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Speaker 1: preparation and a different mindset that whatever you had when

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Speaker 1: you thought when you were in college. And we know

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Speaker 1: this and I know this as a player, it's totally different.

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Speaker 1: So it made me think, Okay, well, I know he's

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Speaker 1: gotten by with everything that he's done, the way he's

570
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Speaker 1: done it so far, he's been the best on the

571
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Speaker 1: field every time he stepped on the field, except for

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Speaker 1: maybe when they played Ohio State and justin fields the

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Speaker 1: best on the field. But you know, I'm just interested

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Speaker 1: to see what his approaches and how he talks about

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Speaker 1: the game once he gets to Jacksonville and things aren't

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Speaker 1: as easy for him as they were at Clemson. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of I'm interested to hear how he talks about

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Speaker 1: the game then and as far as his preparation and

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Speaker 1: what his mindset is or doesn't it change or does

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Speaker 1: he remain the same person, And just say he did say, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm still not driven by super bowls. I'm not driven

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Speaker 1: by accolades. That's just not who does he remain that guy?

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Speaker 1: And if he does, great, but the expectations are much

584
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Speaker 1: different are going to be much different for him in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville than they ever were it even Clemson, because he's

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft. And the last

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Speaker 1: thing I said about that was this, if other players

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, whether it be quarterback or otherwise, had

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Speaker 1: even intimated in any way that football wasn't the number

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Speaker 1: one thing that they on their priority list, and they

591
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: weren't driven maniacally to be the best they could possibly be,

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Speaker 1: we would have discussions about it. But for Trevor, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like it's not allowed. You can't

594
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Speaker 1: you can't say anything about him. Look at what he's done.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't me. I wasn't trying to disparage the guy,

596
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Speaker 1: and I wasn't trying to criticize it. I was just

597
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: raising the question of, Okay, well, how would we react

598
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Speaker 1: to other people had they said this kind of thing,

599
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Speaker 1: or people around them who know them very well had

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Speaker 1: said this kind of thing. But this is the team

601
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: is different. This is the first time he's been critiqued

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Speaker 1: nationally on the field or off the field. But it's

603
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: not a coincidence, though, Lewis, that you look at some

604
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: of the great quarterbacks of all time and they have

605
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: a up on their shoulder. Montana taken in the third round,

606
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Speaker 1: Marino went all the way at the end of the

607
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Speaker 1: first round, Aaron Rodgers all the way at the first round.

608
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Speaker 1: Mahomes got passed up, Drew Brees got passed go down

609
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: the list. I mean, Peyton, Peyton was not like you know,

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Speaker 1: he was taking number one overall unless he says, well,

611
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Speaker 1: I should have won the Heisman, like you created chip

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Speaker 1: if you don't have a chip, Lord knows. Brady certainly

613
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: is still working on that chip. Sure, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that these guys who have been successful,

615
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, had a chip on their shoulder. Sure, look,

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Speaker 1: I think again, you know, it's interesting. It's interesting that

617
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, we you know a lot of the conversations

618
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: surrounding the draft is about Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: the guy who articulated it in the most real way

620
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective to me, about what they thought

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Speaker 1: really built the kind of culture that's a winning, sustainable

622
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: culture in the NFL was Kyle Shanahan and he said this.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were at Monday night football production meetings.

624
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: He said, once you get enough guys who realize how

625
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: hard this game is and really kind of intrinsically the

626
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: number one thing that they need is this game. This

627
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: game is everything to them and they're willing to give

628
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: everything they possibly can to it. And you have enough

629
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Speaker 1: of those guys who kind of buy into that kind

630
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Speaker 1: of culture, that's when you're able to do real, real

631
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Speaker 1: special things. And he loved the culture of his football

632
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Speaker 1: team because of that, because it was that way, and

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Speaker 1: to build out our program. Now, how are you gonna

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Speaker 1: just it was just surprising to hear someone be so

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Speaker 1: would great to talk to you, and hopefully we'll talk

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Speaker 1: And Joe lmbiid nobody? Nobody on the national stage does

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Speaker 1: James Harden? James Harden's interesting place for the nets. Can't

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Speaker 1: talk about Durant Kyrie Harden hadn't been playing. Now, what

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Speaker 1: do you talk about? Who's your MVP? Man? Not a

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Speaker 1: big topic? Now? Wonder why? Because it's manufactured? It's phony.

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Speaker 1: If Lebron was playing this, who would be a conversation

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Speaker 1: every day? Lebron not playing? Nobody cares, hey, how about

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Speaker 1: the Joker? He's really Oh nobody cares hey, Joe, well,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares. Seventy six ers it won six and nobody

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Speaker 1: cares well. When Lebron comes back, can he make Can

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Speaker 1: he make a comeback for MVP? That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: That's the only other storyline. James Harden, you quit on

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Speaker 1: the rockets. Oh, he's a great story in Brooklyn. Look

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's playing great. Oh and then he's

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Speaker 1: not playing, so nobody's talking about MVP. Yes, mcclevin, are

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Speaker 1: you sure that this isn't the Joker effect, the anti

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Speaker 1: Lebron where if jokers in the conversation and makes it

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Speaker 1: kind of boring, No, taking an easy shot. By way,

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Speaker 1: they keep they keep winning without Jamal Murray. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a bummer to see that happen, But to

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Speaker 1: downgrade their title hopes, yes, yes, but Joe l embid

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Speaker 1: to me, if you want to make him the MVP,

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Speaker 1: make him the MVP. But you know, there's no controversy,

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Speaker 1: there's no real story there, nobody cares and if Lebron's

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Speaker 1: not in the conversation. Really, that's what the NBA has

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Speaker 1: come down to. I said from the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry was going to be the MVP. But I

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Speaker 1: thought Golden State was going to challenge for a title

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Speaker 1: this year. I truly did. I wanted them to take

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Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball and no, not Lonzo Lamello. They took James Wiseman,

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Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr came out and said, look, he's probably

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Speaker 1: not going to be ready in the window. That would

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Speaker 1: mean that Steph Curry could play for another title. Now

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Speaker 1: he might be the next generation. He might be the

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Speaker 1: guy they built around, but he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: fully developed for this team to win a championship. I've

765
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Speaker 1: been in spite of that. I still thought if Clay Thompson,

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green, Steph Curry, uh, they could challenge for a title.

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Speaker 1: And Steph has been unbelievable this year. Now. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna win the MVP, but he has been spectacular. He

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Speaker 1: has been as good as anybody in the game. But

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Speaker 1: if you're not winning a championship or at least competing,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win the MVP. Yeah, Paul, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Warriors are in the ninth spot right now, but Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry's playing like twenty fifteen, twenty and sixteen. Yeah, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see. So Durant got injured again. You know when

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Speaker 1: I watched the nets, I tune in. I tune in

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Speaker 1: to see who's playing, because I don't know, You're just going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who's on the floor, no, Hardened, Oh, Kyrie, Okay, Kyrie's there.

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Speaker 1: That that's what it's. It's a spectator's sport with the

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Speaker 1: nets of just who's playing. Yeah, pol You know when

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Speaker 1: you go to a Broadway show and there's the understudy

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Speaker 1: is in the role of James Harden and will be

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00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: played tonight by Harris. They should announce that before games,

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00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: the PA guy. That's what it feels like. But hey,

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Speaker 1: nothing to worry about here. Once the playoffs start, NETS

785
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: are going to be the team to beat. Okay, maybe

786
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Speaker 1: they are. I look forward to it. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to all of them being on the floor. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't ask much with my dynasties or potential dynasties or

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Speaker 1: super teams. Just occasionally get on the floor together. That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's it. What's the poll question? We're gonna go with mclohan. Well,

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Speaker 1: I actually started off with who's a shore fire draft

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Speaker 1: guy in the top eight not including Trevor Lawrence, and

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Speaker 1: it's you got to guess who ran away with it.

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Speaker 1: It's a tight end. Kyle Pitt Pits, Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: second it's Penny Sewell, so all the other Jamar Chase third.

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Speaker 1: The three quarterbacks are last, and nobody voted for Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance or Justin Fields. Coming up top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a couple of guys to keep

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Speaker 1: know some of these wide receivers Kyle Pitts, but a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys to keep an eye on when the

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Speaker 1: draft rolls around. I'm gonna make the dnets play guests,

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