1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time lucking load. The Michael Verie 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Show is on the air. All right, folks gather around. 3 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all about the weirdest bull I ever 4 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: had to distract. 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure she was elected. 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: Now I'm working security by the gate at the concert 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: floor after the rodeo was over, big show, lots of folks, 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: music loud enough to scare a cactus, and this politician 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: waddles up in a shiny new belt buckle. 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Big enough to pick up satellite TV. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: She tries to push past the gate and goes real serious, son, 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: do you know who I am? 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Now? 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: I told her, ma'am, this ain't a rodeo bullpen. You 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: gotta have a ristband. She puffs up like a toting 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: cowboy boots and says, I'm an important Latina woman. I'm 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: Harris County Judge, Lena he Dogo. I just stare at 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: her because court ain't in session. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: You with me? 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: Then she tries a new tactic, pulls out her phone 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: starts calling people. I'm gonna have Rodney Ellis call you. 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a Rodney Ellis call you. I'm like, ma'am, 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: it don't matter who you call, you ain't getting in. Well, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: there's one person who can make it happen. He's one 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: of the few men in this town who can get 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: things done. And she asked who, and I told her 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: the one name she apparently didn't want to hear, Mattress Matt. 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: That's when she became a hen's boy, the furniture salesman. 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: Then she starts pointing random folks in the crowd like 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: she's casting some reality show. 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: You you recognize. 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Me, right, lady, says ma'am. I thought you were selling brisket. 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: Now she's getting desperate, climbs up on a haybell, waves 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: her hat around, starts shouting, I represent the people. Some 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: guy in the back hills didn't go staying with them. 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: Next thing I know, she's trying to last of the 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: gate lass like it's a runaway calf, hollering. 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: By the power invested in me. As the Harris County 39 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: judge up and said to me. 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: Finally, I grabbed that microphone and I say, ladies and gentlemen, 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: if anybody here does know who this woman is, please 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: come get her. 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: She seems crazy. I am crazy for feeling. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: Slowly Why I'm crazy. 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: Lena Hidalgo should resign before the end of the day. 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: It's just that simple. There is a lot more that's 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: going to come out. I suspect the rodeo is going 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: to spare her unless she continues to try to embarrass her. 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Lena Hidalgo needs to resign and this goes away. That 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: is the only answer at this point. She thought it 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: would help her case to play some audio of the exchanges, 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: and we're gonna share those with you now. But when 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: she is caught, she's like a trapped animal, cornered animal, 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: and she gets very nervous and starts lashing about she 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: posted about one of these audio clips you're going to hear, 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: she says. The recording is of Chris Bolman, the CEO 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: and president of HLSR. He's the Life Side Show rodeo, 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: asking me for proof that I was manhandled. Yeah, imagine that. 59 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Imagine you couldn't just say that these people with stellar 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: reputations threw you around. Imagine that he didn't just let 61 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: you say it and get away with it. Who is 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: he not? Channel eleven. The recording is of Chris Bolman 63 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: asking me for proof that I was manhandled, and then 64 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: him and his men. Oh oh, not just people around him. 65 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: They had wieners and that's the worst. Like the one 66 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: that dumped me less than a year in okay man 67 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: hater blocking me from speaking to the people who saw 68 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: the incident. Yes, yes, that's what Chris Bowman does. He 69 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: runs around like a mafia boss, slash assassin, slash hit man, 70 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: doing the dirty work himself. There are stories of him 71 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: walking up on Chuck Norris, grabbing him by the hair 72 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: and just flaing him to the ground and everybody's like, 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: why Chris, Chris Bowman. That's Chris Bowman. You remember Patrick 74 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: Swayze in Roadhouse when there's a bad scene and he 75 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: has to take the guy's head wham on the table 76 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: and Jeff Heale is the band he's blind, but the 77 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: place goes quiet and all the mayhem stops. What was 78 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: his name? What was Patrick swayzeye's character's name? Do you 79 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: remember Jim Dalton? That's Dalton And everybody's like, oh, that's well, 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 2: that's Chris Bowman. He just walks around just throwing people 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: to the dirt, kicking them in the nuts, pulling their hair, 82 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: throwing them out. Tossing people is a way to Sea's 83 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: part when Chris Bowman walks through, it is Chris Bowman. 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: Be careful. He'll just like randomly whip your ass and 85 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: go crazy on you. Yeah, that's his reputation. Anybody that 86 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: knows the guy, that's his reputation for sure. Absolutely good grief. 87 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: She this is if you don't know Chris Bowman, you 88 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: won't know. You won't understand. Chris Bowman's job is to 89 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: be the Lionhamer. Just imagine for a moment, if you would, 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: that you are managing the Houston Livestock Showing rodeo, and 91 00:05:52,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: you are managing volunteers. You've got every billionaire, multi millionaire, celebrity, athlete, 92 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: politician wanting tickets here, Move here, put me on this committee. 93 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: I want to ride here. I want to be in 94 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: the parade. I want to be the Grand Marshal. I 95 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: want this, I want this ticket, Do this, do that? 96 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: Why can't we do this? Can you imagine the egos? 97 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: That guy's whole job is to keep the peace. But 98 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: her next line here, it is if this is how 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: they treat me, dash you ready? She wants you to 100 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: understand me is not just a normal person. This is 101 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: how they treat me. Queen Lena. If this is how 102 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: they treat me her exact words, by virtue of my position, 103 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: the ex officio director of the rodeo, You dumbass. That 104 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you're the former director. Do you know 105 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: how many ex officio directors there are? I was one 106 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: and I'm nobody. Do you know how many people are 107 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: ex officio directors? That just means you're not a real director, 108 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: you dumb ass. If this is how they treat me, 109 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: by virtue of my position, the ex officio director of 110 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: the rodeo, you sound so stupid. But then here's the 111 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: better line. Landlord, She's the landlord. They're her tenant because 112 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: NRG Stadium belongs to Harris County and Lisa's to the Rodeo. 113 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: If they do that to me, what do they do? 114 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: How do they treat everybody else? I'm the landlord or 115 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: is it the land lord? She's land lord Lena, and 116 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: you Houston Livestock and Rodeo, every major player in the region, 117 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: every welder, electrician, plumber, veteran, business owner, mommy, daddy, three 118 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: four or five generation legacy people. I'm a land lord, Lena, 119 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: and you will bow down before me. I'm the boss 120 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: bitch here. So some of you know, I am endeavoring 121 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: to open the RCC again in a different location near Katie. 122 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: A lot of details to work out, but I learned 123 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: a lot I didn't already know about the rodeo from 124 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: that experience. To start with, when we opened, there were 125 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: so many RCC members who were also Rodeo Committee volunteers, 126 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: and they all moved their events to the RCC to 127 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: help us out to that first year, and we ended 128 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: up for some of you if you remember Blancos over 129 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: near I don't know about Buffalo Speedway in West tim 130 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Or area, it was a great little bar in that 131 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: little but it was a great little bar and a 132 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: lot of folks, rodeo folks used to go there in 133 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: the way today a lot of rodeo folks go to 134 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: Levi Goods Place, Armadilla Palace on Kirby, and there's some 135 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: other hotspots for the rodeo crowd. Every bar owner will 136 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: tell you that is the group you want, because they 137 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: tip well, they treat your people with respect, they're loyal, 138 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: they're just it really is wonderful people. Some of them 139 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: are rich, some of them are just working class, and 140 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: it's truly it's truly the greatest example of that. And 141 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: everybody in town, that is, somebody in terms of business, 142 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: society or whatever, gets involved with the rodeo and you 143 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: check your ego at the door, and that's the coolest 144 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: thing about it. Now, are there a few people who 145 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: ride a little bit higher on their horse at the parade, Yeah, 146 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: they're kind of real proud of themselves, but they're probably 147 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: also a third or fourth generation. And by the way, 148 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: the vocaros are just as bad, and it's the same group. 149 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: That's the people you want. When we opened, I think 150 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: our first year we had twenty one or twenty two 151 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: events that were rodeo events. Events are where you make 152 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: money as a venue. It's not in the day to day. 153 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: You can't ever pay your bills with the day to day. 154 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: It's hard. And the funny thing is it was poultry, 155 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: the Poultry Committee. I don't know who on the poultry 156 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: committee loved our stuff, but they just started booking everything there. 157 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: They are the best. They are absolutely the best. For 158 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: Lena to run a foul of this group, I cannot 159 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: begin to tell you, but it kind of is so perfect. 160 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: It's exactly. This is the disconnect between Harris County government 161 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: and the people who really make our community run. This 162 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: is the most perfect example. You've got Lena Hidalgo thinking, well, 163 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: I just do what I want when I want. You 164 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: can't stop me. And if you say you are going 165 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: to stop me because it's your venue and your rules 166 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: that I've come to, then I'll claim you hate women, 167 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: and that you're mean, and that you shoved me, and 168 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: that you did all these things, and I'll run to 169 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: the media. This is what is wrong with our community. 170 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: The kind of people that are active at the rodeo 171 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: don't want to live in the city of Houston. They 172 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: don't want to live in Harris County. They have to 173 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: move out to Belleville or wherever else to get away 174 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: from this nonsense, this crazy little race based community act 175 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: activism nonsense. And this is the most perfect example of it. 176 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's exactly this in one fell Swoop 177 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: is everything. Landlord Lena, she's their landlord. Oh my goodness, 178 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: who really cares Lina Jimbo? 179 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: All right, we got the mutton busting coming up on 180 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: a U Stoner audio. 181 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh, this is the best event. 182 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: All the kids are lined up and what is this 183 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: we've got somety bumping elbows down there. I'll be darn 184 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: it looks like Lena Hidalgo the hair is County judged 185 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 4: in a scuffle. 186 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: Let's go down to Dusty Stone and see what's going on. 187 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm here with the little Lacey. She saw everything right 188 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: in front of her. I saw a lady come up 189 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: and I immediately noticed her from my backpack. Lena, her 190 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: dog goes on your backpack? No, Dorley's four, silly? And 191 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: then what happened? So I did what any kids would do. 192 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: I asked her friend autographs. 193 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: Well, she shoved me out of the way with her sharp. 194 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: Little elbows, and I'll never forget, she said, you kids, 195 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: it's okay. All the kids laugh. 196 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: When she got thrown from the baby sheep in two 197 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: and a half seconds, it was hilarious. 198 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: She was kicking and screaming like my sister when we 199 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: take away her candy. Everyone knows she's a whack Joss 200 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: rancid nuggar dabbing off another daddy bit? Are you shirring 201 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: a Hona corner? Sherry Alanna jim back in. This example 202 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: right here makes my case better than anything I ever could. 203 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: The kind of people that are getting elected to public 204 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: office in our community are inconsistent with the values experience, 205 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: the kind of people who have built and continue to 206 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: make this community great. It's not the Lena had Augoshi 207 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: is not It's not the Rodney Elysis. It's those guys. 208 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: It's those aggies and longhorns and prank a lot of 209 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: aggies that built the rodeo, that build the roads, and 210 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: that ain't Lena head Argis. In nineteen ninety five in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 211 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: it was a fellow named MacArthur Wheeler, and he walked 212 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: into a bank with no mask, in fact, no actual 213 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: physical disguise, his face completely uncovered, no sunglasses, no makeup, 214 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: no rubber mask, no nothing. But he had lemon juice 215 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: on his face, and he believed that since lemon juice 216 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: works as invisible ink on paper, it would make his 217 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: face invisible to Cameras he walked into the bank with 218 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: his gun, he looked directly into the security camera and 219 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: he smiled. He carried out the heist, took his gun 220 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: and his cash, walked out of the bank. He proceeded 221 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: within a few minutes to do the same thing again, 222 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: no mask, looked directly into the cameras so they could 223 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: get the best footage possible, except you couldn't get any 224 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: footage because his face would be invisible because he had 225 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: lemon juice on it. So the police were shocked, what 226 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: in the world this, This is pretty brazen. This guy's 227 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: going to carry out a mass murder or something. This 228 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: this kind of behavior, this unheard of. No mask, no, 229 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: no nothing. So they give that to the local media. 230 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: They run it on the news, and in less than 231 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: an hour, MacArthur Wheeler is arrested. They show him the 232 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: tape and they say, he said, how'd you catch me? 233 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: They said, well, look at this, and there it is, 234 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: and he sees the video and he sees his face 235 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: and he says, but I wore the juice. He had 236 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: tested his theory with a polaroid. He did a selfie, 237 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: remember the old polaroid boom, and it would it would 238 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: print out and you'd have the white frame around it, 239 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: and he didn't appear in the photo. But the reason 240 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: he didn't appear in the photo is because when he 241 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: put the lemon juice on his face, he got some 242 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: of it in his eye. And because he got it 243 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: in his eye as he went to take the selfie 244 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: with his polaroid. He closed his eyes because his eyes 245 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: were burning, and in the process he turned the camera 246 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: upward and it just shot the ceiling, so it was 247 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: just a grainy video of nothing. So he believed that 248 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: the lemon juice had made him invisible to the camera. 249 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: Why do I tell you this story because this case 250 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: of extreme stupidity we know to be what it is. 251 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: But he didn't think he was stupid. He thought he 252 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: was a genius. So there were two psychologists by the 253 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: names of David Dunning and Kruger, and so they would 254 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: do quite a bit of research and come up with 255 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: their own theory. I doubt they ever expected this thing 256 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: to be in common currency, but they came up with 257 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: their own theory, as many professors will do. There's so 258 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: much academic scholarship out there, you wouldn't believe like this 259 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: that nobody hardly ever reads outside their fellow faculty members. 260 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: And in nineteen ninety nine they published what they called 261 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: the Dunning their names Dunning Kruger effect, and that is 262 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: the cognitive bias where people with very low cognitive skills 263 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: dramatically overestimate their own competence. It is the idea, Dunning 264 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: Kruger or the Dunning Kruger effect. This is the idea 265 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: where the person comes storming in and declares to be 266 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: the CEO. This is the idea where the third string 267 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: quarterback believes he should be starting. And oftentimes Dunning Krugar 268 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: comes about because people are being told by the people 269 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: around them how great they are. This is what lands 270 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: boxers in the ring with somebody who damn near kills them. 271 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: That's what happened with Alexis Argueo and the guy that 272 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: he literally did kill. You get these hype men around you, 273 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: You get money men around you. You get people around 274 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: you who benefit from you that continue to hype you up. Yeah, 275 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: do that, say that, write that, and you get the 276 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 2: belief because the go chamber you're living in. This is 277 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: hard for people to understand because you may think, what's 278 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: the big deal. She's the county judge of Harris County. 279 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: Lena Hidalgo is driven around like the king of a country. 280 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: She has armed and she has armed uniformed and plane 281 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: closed security around her at all times, as if anybody 282 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: cares who she is. When she goes to these bike 283 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: races triathlon, many triathlons she does, she will be seen 284 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: riding up to the event in her bike, giving you 285 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: the impression she not only competes in the event. She 286 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: rides her bike to the event, but just like oh 287 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: pete buttergig, she has them take the bike out a 288 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: block away, get it all for her, get her water, 289 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: all the officers that you're paying for, and get her 290 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: all squared away so she can go riding up like yeah, 291 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: this another day is on the way out. She is 292 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: being treated, her every need met like she's some sort 293 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: of queen of a country. When that happens, she's never 294 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: being checked. You know how your husband or wife does 295 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: for you. You know how your kids do. Our kids 296 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: check us, don't they? You know how your colleagues do. 297 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: The Dunning Kruger effect explains why people do insanely irrational 298 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: things to the rational mind. Well, here is an individual 299 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: who Rodney has created a world around her. She's been 300 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: allowed to get away with this am media team has 301 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: been put in place that has had all these glowing articles. 302 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: You wouldn't believe the things that had been written. She's 303 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: the next coming, I mean, she is it. So after 304 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: a while she starts to believe it. So who are 305 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: these old white guys telling her, Hey, you can't sit 306 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: in buba seats? He paid for those. Do you know 307 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: who I am? I'm your landlord. 308 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 309 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 5: I hope everyone has a really awesome yesterday. 310 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: So Lena Hidalgo was kicked out of the rodeo two 311 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 2: nights ago, and she went home and decided to get 312 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: ahead of it because she knew there were too many 313 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 2: people who saw it and that the story was going 314 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: to be she got kicked out, she probably called the 315 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: people who handle her, who control her overlords, and they 316 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: probably drafted what ended up getting posted and then pulled 317 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: down within a few minutes. And that was that she 318 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: was manhandled. She was shoved, really, and it was because 319 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: she's a woman, because yeah, that's what they do. That's 320 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: what the rodeo does. They just go around shoving women. 321 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: Do you know what's funny about that whole story. Of course, 322 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: she wouldn't know this because she thinks, as a quote 323 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: ex officio director, that she's somehow the person in charge 324 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: of the rodeo. She doesn't understand what that means. She 325 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: doesn't understand rodeo protocol, which by the way, has been around. 326 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: What did I see the number? I got news for 327 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: you, you little petulant bitch. The rodeo has been around a 328 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: very very long time. What did I see? Was it 329 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty two? I had it, I had it earlier. Well, anyway, 330 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: I think it's six hundred and sixty million dollars they've 331 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: raised for charity over the years. Yeah, I don't think 332 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: this is You're not gonna win this one. So she 333 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: rushes home and she posts this big you know, this 334 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: is what they did to me. I'm a victim. I 335 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: feel unempowered as a woman. And then and this is really, 336 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: this is really how delusional she is. She thought the 337 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: audio bits would make her sound better, but actually they've 338 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: made her sound much worse. Jim, why don't you play 339 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: one of. 340 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 5: Those your people push me and grab me? 341 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: I said, you said you have. 342 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 5: I said let me go that way, you said let. 343 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: Me go that way? 344 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: Yes, but then why are you guys blocking my way 345 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 5: to the people that saw if you're if you're blocking evidence, 346 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 5: you're blocking evidence. 347 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: You're blooming they're people. 348 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 5: There's people again, it's I don't want to see the show. 349 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: I'm happy to not see it. You're blocking me, you're 350 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 5: being reported. You're blocking me from people. You are blocking 351 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 5: me from people who saw what happened. You're not letting 352 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: me see them. You're not letting me see. 353 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: The people what happened. She uses terms without I mean, 354 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: you're blotting evidence. So then when they say where's your ticket, 355 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: you're in a seat, and she says, I don't even 356 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: want to see the show. I'm leaving, okay, But that 357 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: doesn't answer where's your ticket? Why are you down here? 358 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: Why are you down in a shoot seat when you're 359 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: supposed to be up by pure kindness, you didn't you 360 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: didn't pay for the sweet upstairs? Why are you down 361 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: here without a without a ticket? And when they asked 362 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: you to leave so that the person whose ticket it 363 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: is can sit in their seat, And now she's the victim, 364 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: you're blocking evidence. I've constance, you'll write to evidence. I 365 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: have a first remember right to evidence. Evidence, there's evidence, 366 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: there's people, there's evidence. The problem is those people are 367 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: now talking and they're not confirming her story. You have 368 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: another one, Jimbo. 369 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 5: All the kids are upstairs in a suite, which you 370 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: told me they have a seat for I'm waiting for 371 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 5: the concert. 372 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: Ent keep me live on this. I wan't want to 373 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: be able to comment throughout this. The kids. Okay, so 374 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: she's brought some guests. This is very similar. No, I 375 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: won't go there. Lena will often talk about the kids 376 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: because she has learned that children are good props in politics. 377 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: She doesn't have any, she doesn't know anything about them, 378 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: but she has learned that you can refer to the kids. Now. 379 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: One of the things that she will talk about during 380 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: all of this is that this is how the rodeo 381 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: treats the family of a deceased service member. And she 382 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: refers to a sergeant who recently passed. She misspells sergeant Hey, 383 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: not like she wouldn't know anything about that anyway. And 384 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: this is the Rodeo's fault for not letting them sit 385 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: in seats, But actually it's not. It's her fault for 386 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: bringing them somewhere where they weren't supposed to be. It's 387 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: her fault for putting them in this awkward situation, which 388 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: she did. If she were to load up that family 389 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: in a van she's driving and all of a sudden, 390 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 2: gun it and start one hundred miles an hour down 391 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: the freeway, and the police were to give chase and 392 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: she's to flip the vehicle as she's running, having been 393 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: chased at one hundred miles an hour, and then jump 394 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: out and say, look what you cops did to these 395 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: kids inside my van. These are just children. No, you 396 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: did that. That's on you, all right, keep going. 397 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: The kids are upstairs in the suite, which you told 398 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 5: me they have a seat for I'm waiting for the 399 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: concert end so that I can give the kids because 400 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 5: you light it, wouldn't ask me. Let me push these 401 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 5: people tonight, well tomorrow, I don't know if it was 402 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 5: standing there. So you're you're getting the people out of 403 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 5: the fift children. 404 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: You're getting the two. 405 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 5: Children out of the out of the street. I was leaving, 406 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: but I can wait in the car for them, But 407 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 5: don't take them out. The little girl was crying. You 408 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: guys want to what in the world you don't need 409 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 5: to the in the vehicle. That's why I said, are 410 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 5: you pulling them out? And you were just saying, no, 411 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: we're gonna cut it. 412 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the end the vehicle. 413 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 5: And as I said, I don't want to see this concert. 414 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna come to any more concerts. 415 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: I have to be back to this. We're not talking 416 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: about it, okay. 417 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 5: Because what do you think I'm gonna do? Like, what 418 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 5: what are you going to do? 419 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: All you need to lead the problem. Let's leave, let's go, 420 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: you do not go, Let's go the right. 421 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: You said we have a ticket to them. 422 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Let's go again. 423 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: I've come everything. Nobody ever said anything. Sure, So he okay, sure, 424 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 5: And here's actual community members that don't. 425 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: So she plays the victim. She uses the kids. But 426 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: there's something that's not being discussed, the job of the 427 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: rodeo leadership. And by the way, they brought in the 428 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: top brass for this. They've got a stadium full of people. 429 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how many thousand people. I don't know 430 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: who this woman was. It was performing, but they filled 431 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: the damn thing up. They're doing something right, and they've 432 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: got how many what is it, fifty sixty seventy thousand people? 433 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm guessing. I bet it's fifty fifty 434 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: thousand people or more. And they're having to be down 435 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: there dealing with the distraction of the county judge, the 436 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: one person because you know, out back, some guy's getting 437 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: his ass whip because he grabbed another girl's butt. You've 438 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: got some other guy that poured a beer on a cop. 439 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: You got some other guy that pulled his willy out. 440 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: You got another guy that pulled his willy out. You 441 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 2: got two people banging in the back. They're having to 442 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: put out fires all night long. That's what you do 443 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: when you got a big event. That's it there. And 444 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: she's basically standing there trying to drag this thing out, 445 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: and they're going, no, we're ending this thing right now. 446 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: You're leaving, and she's trying to find every is she ses. 447 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: You're blocking evidence. I need a court date. I need 448 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: to I want to hold court right now. I want evidence. 449 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: I want this on this, on this, I'm your landlord. 450 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 2: And they're going, we've got to show them all these 451 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: people have paid this money and they're being distracted by 452 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: this is all going on during the show. By the way, 453 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: nobody came to see this show.