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Speaker 1: in the wash. There's too much it going on out

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00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: there for you to put a point on on on

424
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: uh a leap three sixty or uh you know the

425
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: ub K movement that's going on right now or racks

426
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Rio like little kids like youngsters is coming up in

427
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: the game. That's that's making some great, great music that

428
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: will probably never get a chance to listen to because

429
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 1: the game so bumper the bumper And if you're not

430
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: streaming or got a million fake followers on the internet,

431
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: they're not gonna pay you attention. No, Well, you know

432
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: what I think, man, I think, uh, you know, to

433
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: your point earlier when you mentioned guys being kind of

434
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: concerned about getting out there because it could be called

435
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: a hypocrite. For example, I will tell you I learned

436
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: my best lessons in the world from the guys who

437
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: made all the mistakes. You know, you have more credibility

438
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: with me if you said, look, this is what I

439
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: did when I was your age, because it made sense

440
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: to me at the time, but I regret it. And

441
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: here's why that that actually gave me more credibility than

442
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: somebody who never had that experience, right, you know, like

443
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: I learned like my father um, you know, overcame a

444
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: heroin addiction, drank too much all that. So from the

445
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: time I was little, he would saying, don't do what

446
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: I did, and he would explain exactly why, you know,

447
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: we go out. Man. You know, he was a cop.

448
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: He take me out driving somewhere. He says, you see

449
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: that guy over there, and be like yeah, He's like, well,

450
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: that guy sit. He pointed some you know, bump bum

451
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: homeless guys sitting on the street, and he said, well,

452
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: this guy used to be the start of the football

453
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: team and he was the most popular guy in my

454
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: high school. Now look at him. Do you want to

455
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: be like that? And I'd be like no, and then

456
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: that that that had an impression. So I personally think

457
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: that artists, it's okay to say when we were young,

458
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: we didn't have the guidance. Nobody told us what this

459
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: was gonna become, you know, um, and that's something that

460
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, if I'm talking to yourself

461
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: or Cube or anybody, just you know, and I submit

462
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: always respectfully because I'm not out here trying to tell

463
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: anybody what to do, I would say, you know, you know,

464
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: like I just cub has a great song uh that

465
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: he did with him c ran where he says, I

466
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: started this gangster ship and this the motherfucking thanks. I get.

467
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: You know the song right, and it's like, yeah, you did.

468
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Started it was cute. I thought it was cute. Dray

469
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: said the line first. Oh okay, okay, I thought it

470
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: was Cube song. But maybe I got it wrong. Um,

471
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: Cube uses that as a hook? Okay, right, okay, okay,

472
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: that's what was confusing because said Drake said it in

473
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: the song, and Cube used it as a hook, started

474
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: this gangster ship and as the motherfucking thanks. I get. Yeah,

475
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. So so here's my thing, right, I

476
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: think that we can um honor and celebrate the accomplishments

477
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: of hip hop while at the same time saying, like

478
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: you were talking about with music, how could we have

479
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: done this a little bit better? You know how? What

480
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: are some things that we can look back on and say, Okay,

481
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: we didn't know this is gonna lead to bigging pocket

482
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: and kill. We didn't know this is gonna lead to

483
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: you know, you think about it and artist dies like

484
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: once a week, you know what I mean, Like, we

485
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: didn't want it to turn into this per se. So

486
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: here's some things. I think artists, I think that the

487
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: power of the words, Like think about man rappers with

488
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: social media influences. Before there was social media, we talked

489
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: about that, and it's like that those words got power. Man.

490
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: It's not just like I'm just saying nobody's gonna listen.

491
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: People listen. People imitate that ship, right, So what we

492
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: put out there in the universe, it does matter. Go ahead,

493
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: But I can't take responsibility for that because everything I say,

494
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean, Like if if

495
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: do you remember when we were back in the Gap, Willie,

496
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: when when the state trooper got killed up in Austin

497
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: or whatever and they tried to blame it on the

498
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: music that he was listening to, Like, yeah, that's like

499
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: saying the devil made me do it. You know that.

500
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: That's bullshit to me, Like the devil didn't make me

501
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: do that. Y'all remember that seemed like the early nineties,

502
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: y'all got a lot of heat from the fiends and

503
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: the media and stuff like what they were blaming the

504
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: music of blaming the music for like a lot of

505
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: things that what happened is that I think I remember that. Yeah,

506
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: but they never put anything on you know the films mhm.

507
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, they never put responsibility on the situation that

508
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: the growing up. They never they never gave a responsibility

509
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: to the parents, to the upbringing of the child. You

510
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 1: know why this ship happened in the first place, you know,

511
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: even why we think like we do. You know, that's

512
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: the weird product of the environment. And you can blame

513
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: music for that ship all you can look at the

514
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: real corporate culprit of that ship. You know why. It's

515
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: an interesting the economy and and that and that have

516
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: you have. You know, on one end, you got the

517
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: parents responsibility because everything starts at home. We know that.

518
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: Being on the other hand, as all, we cannot just

519
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: say that we don't have any type of responsibility at all.

520
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: I think all of us have a responsibility because it takes,

521
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: it does take a village to raise a child. And

522
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: so when when mama and daddy can teach a child

523
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: everything the right way, and if that child ends up

524
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: at a party and some food pulls out a gun

525
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: and starts just shooting, your child becomes a casualty, you know,

526
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: because that other child didn't have the village looking out

527
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: for him. It's like I said, it's it's it's a

528
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: combination of all factors. It's not just music. It's the

529
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: music does get a lot of a lot of the

530
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: bad rap. But I was taught seeing this believing, so

531
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe that the movies are more dangerous,

532
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: but they never get the blame. Of course, because hip

533
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: hop is the low hanging fruit. We we get the

534
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: attacks because and we're more accessible, you know, like a

535
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, a little Dirk is more accessible than Appacino.

536
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: You know, so so when you see that, you know,

537
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: Opportuno is like out of sight, out of mind, right

538
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: and we only see him on the big screen. Uh,

539
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: But Dirk is like on Instagram. He's talking ship. You know,

540
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: he's talking this ship. You know. You know, yeah, they talk,

541
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: They're they're more accessible, so it's easy say, oh man,

542
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: they're doing this and this and this that. In the third,

543
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that all of us ask some responsibility. This

544
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: is why even though my life I feel like it's

545
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: on a on a on a great trajectory right now,

546
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: even my children's life, you know, I feel like it's

547
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: incumbent upon me, as an elder to all to put

548
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: the information out there for those youngsters who ain't getting it.

549
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: So that's why that's why I say that I disagree

550
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: because you're raised your children right, Willie, and your children

551
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: are in position right now to prosper from their upbringing.

552
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: That's true. But what I'm what what I'm saying is

553
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: that we don't have the luxury of not helping those

554
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: kids who filed Shart. We don't have that luxury because

555
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: no matter what our children interacts with those children, you

556
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So I feel like and not

557
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: just our children in act with those children at some point.

558
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: Imagine a kid who's who's growing up in the hood.

559
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Nobody ever asked him, Hey, man, man, I got a

560
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: couple of tickets to the game. You want to go?

561
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: I got an extra ticket to the game. You want

562
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: to go. Hey, we're going to the park, We're going

563
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: to the beach. You want to go with us? Instead

564
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: of just listening, looking at him and saying all that

565
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: boy problematic, That boy's gonna get in trouble, he's gonna

566
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: get he gonna get killed if you don't, if you

567
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: don't reach out to that kid, perhaps some day when

568
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: you're a little older and you can't defend yourself as

569
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: good you don't walk as fast swiftly. Perhaps that's the

570
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: kid that's that's crawling through your window while you're while

571
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: you're laying up in the bed, you know, laid out.

572
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I just I just don't feel I feel like there

573
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: can be any child left behind unless that child actually

574
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: just wants to be left behind. We have to reach out.

575
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Some of these kids just don't have the right information.

576
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: They don't even know that they have the option. They

577
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: don't even know that the option exists for them, and

578
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: and and a lot of it is that people in

579
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: our age group are not giving the information up because

580
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: they feel like, well, they're not gonna listen anyway, and

581
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: so they don't even want to take the time out

582
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: to share the information. We are we are responsible for

583
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: whatever condition that this generation is in today. We are

584
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: directly responsible us as a generation. The generation that precedes

585
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: the current generation is always responsible for that current generation.

586
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: And we didn't do a good job, man, we just

587
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: didn't do a damn good job. Not that that's that's

588
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: not an excuse for the youngsters have just said, well, okay,

589
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: since they didn't do a good job, I dropped the ball.

590
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: They dropped the ball, so I ain't got to pick

591
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: it up. I'll just do whatever I want to act

592
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: reckless or whatever, and and and have no responsibility for whatever.

593
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: It's not to say that they shouldn't do that. I'm

594
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: just saying that we were coupable broke, like we don't.

595
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: We don't get a free pass on this ship. Let

596
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: me put some one in your mind. Um, I feel

597
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: like the elected officials should put ship in place where

598
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: these kids come you know back they can come out

599
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: of high school with uh pieces of paper that allows

600
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: them to be you know that take trade that you know,

601
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: uh carpenters, masons, uh, electricians, plumbers or what have you.

602
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like ninety percent of our kids

603
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: are not going to go to college, you know, out

604
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: of our community because from where we come from. Not

605
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: not our kids, but the kids come out of the neighborhood,

606
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: out of Sunnyside, you know, uh fifth ward that they

607
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: may not be able to go to college and may

608
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: not be able to afford go to go to college.

609
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: But and they may not have the desire to go

610
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: to college. But if you put trade, if you if

611
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: they come out of high school with a certificate, and

612
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to provide themselves a livable wage,

613
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: and I think that that that would give them more

614
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: incentive to to to push on with life and state

615
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: of funk out the streets and out you know, of

616
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: trouble that's so easy to get into when you don't

617
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: have an alternative. I can't tell you not to go

618
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: and rob this old lady. You know it's wrong. I

619
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: know it's wrong. But you can say money, you don't

620
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: know it's wrong. Well, you can still tell them not

621
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: to do it. It's just that different. It's alternative, for sure. Yeah,

622
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: you can, you can offer not turn it. But at

623
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, you know you

624
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: can tell them not to do it. You should tell

625
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: them not to do it. But at the end of

626
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: the day, it's still going to be their choice and

627
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: their consequences. I can do it, yeah, but I want

628
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: to help, want to help in every way that I can.

629
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: But you know Bucket made, you know what you made.

630
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: But well, let me say this. And here's the thing, man,

631
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: I think that we can as men, you know, in

632
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: our community. Um, I believe that the strength of the

633
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: black community will lean solely on the strength of its men.

634
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, when you're not first, it's what I mean

635
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: of its men. Uh you know when when you're not

636
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: first became friends. I'm glad to know you too, Bron

637
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: never always admired, you're working everything, like you know the

638
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: thing you said to me that that uh, then let

639
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: me know, Okay, this is a guy I can I

640
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: can rock with as you. He was talking about white

641
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: supremacy and you said, ain't nothing you could do to

642
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: me that I can't do to you. And that's an

643
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: empowered statement. That's not one of these victims statements like

644
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: oh look at what they're doing to us, right I'm

645
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: trying to it like like men are not supposed to

646
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: be should be victims, Like either you think about sports

647
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: or war or whatever, you can't be like, well, the

648
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: reason we keep losing football games because every time we

649
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: get the ball they just take it like that makes

650
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: you sound like a pump, you know. And and so

651
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: I think that as men, I think that we can

652
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: kind of say, okay, let's let's not worry about who

653
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: to blame. Let's not blame anybody right away, you know

654
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, let's not even talk about if

655
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: people want to take some blame like you took some

656
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: responsibility and took it on your shoulder. That that's cool.

657
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: But I think also without convicting hip hop and saying oh,

658
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: it was the rappers and it is, we could just say, Okay,

659
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: we know rappers have power. That's all I need to know.

660
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't really need to oh, how the power was

661
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: used in the past, and if it's the rappers fault

662
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: for this and fault for that, it's like, we know

663
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: rappers have power. I don't think that can be denied, right,

664
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: So the question to me becomes, if I'm a rapper

665
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: and I'm conscious I care about my people, how do

666
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: I use that power in a way that's going to

667
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: make sure that from this point forward we're winning. Right, Well,

668
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help my team win, Like how we got

669
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: here is how we got here. But I can take

670
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: some accountability for helping the team win going forward. And

671
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you, man, I checked out both

672
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: of y'all's music that you put out a little bit.

673
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: I don't I probablyn't seen it all, but I saw

674
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: you did a song where you were in the community,

675
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: you were walking through the hood. You would say you

676
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: had an empowering message. I don't remember the exact part

677
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: of the song. But like you said, it was and

678
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: I noticed this trend like with you and and and

679
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: you both of y'all and also cute, like it's like, wow,

680
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: these guys the music has gotten better because they know

681
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: their power. They're not just twenty two year olds that

682
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: are just you know, trying to stay relevant. Like now,

683
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: you're older men who have lived life and you have

684
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: a perspective. You know, you're not afraid. I know you're

685
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: not scared to go to war, to fight, to do whatever.

686
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: But and why soldier is a person who understands the

687
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: real tragedy and the pain of war. Right And and

688
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: then so the soldiers. The guy who's gonna say I

689
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: don't want to go to war, right, it's the stupid

690
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: ass who's never been the war who's like, no, you're

691
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: we need to go fight and need to go. No,

692
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: a guy who's really been in the battle is like no, no, no, no,

693
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: We're willing to do that if we have to, but

694
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be our first option, right. So, right,

695
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: and that's what coming to to us happen to go

696
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: to war. It is it is it is that And

697
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm not meant me say this, and like, like you said, uh,

698
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: what could I But what could I do to use

699
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: my platform to enlighten my people and let them know?

700
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: I think the first thing that I could say is

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: that I'm not intimidated by white supremacy, and they should

702
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: not be either. You should not be on on television, uh,

703
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, crying because this white supremacist is doing what

704
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: they're doing. You shouldn't do that. You should match absolutely

705
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: not and you and you probably get some backlash for

706
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: that now and not get some backlash for coach. Yeah,

707
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, like you know what what I'm what I'm

708
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: saying is that you have people that are apologists for criers,

709
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, like not like I'm like this bro, Like

710
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not one who subscribed to the idea

711
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: that man should not cry into any circumstances. But when

712
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: it's war, Bro, when you're under attack, that ain't the

713
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: time to cry. That is not the time to cry

714
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: that that that is the when it's war is the time.

715
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: That is the time for war. You did what I'm saying,

716
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: But you know what that is that that's uh because

717
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: they get rid of so many of your men with

718
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, when Clinton and Biden signed those crime bills.

719
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: Our community became a feminine community with a lot of

720
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: feminine energy kind of rolls to the top. So when

721
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Ice Cubes stepped up, it was like, no, you're not

722
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: You're not get votes from black people without delivering something.

723
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a basic message. Right. People were like,

724
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: whoa wait, what is this? And they, because they're not

725
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: used to the black community being represented by masculine energy,

726
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: to say like, I don't I'm not trying to be

727
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: your friend. I don't care how many nice things you

728
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: say about me. Uh, it's fun you pay me right,

729
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: that like, basically, you know that you deliver for us,

730
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: we deliver for you. If not, then that's fine. And

731
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: and and that to me was something that um represented.

732
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: I think that represent an important part of black political

733
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: history because as a result of seeing that all kind

734
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: of go down and how it's played out, the next

735
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: election is going to be different than the last one.

736
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: And they're watching it, they're like, Okay, black people not

737
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: as dumb as we thought they were years ago. They're

738
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: getting that's why they're putting different uh obstacles in place

739
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: in order for you to vote. You know, they're making

740
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: it more difficult and more difficult for black people and

741
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: brown people to vote. And that's why I don't understand

742
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: why we donna take advantage of the opportunity to do so,

743
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: because the more we sit back and watch from the sideline,

744
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: the more they get to put their players on on

745
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: on the field and dictate our future. You know, in

746
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: the long run, that's that's that's just wrong, bro. But

747
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: but if I haven't having said that, Brad, uh boys,

748
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: I know you know you have the same concept about

749
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: this voting things as Cuba is, Like, what am I

750
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: getting out of it? And you're not getting my vote

751
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: unless I got something up front. We need to make

752
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: a deal right now? How do we get how do

753
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: we how do we how do we merge that gap

754
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: and and be and be able to be a part

755
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: of the process. Where you got people like Brad that's saying, yeah,

756
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: we gotta vote, we gotta be a part of the process.

757
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: But at the same time you step in and saying, yeah,

758
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: but we gotta get something out of it. And how

759
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: do you convince those people who maybe may feel like

760
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: we got to vote no matter what, how do you

761
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: convince them that you get but you gotta get something

762
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: out of it. So what what if you okay, check

763
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: this up. Let me ask a question. If you elect

764
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: an official and you don't hold their feet to the fire,

765
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: that show fault. It's not about not getting what you

766
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: asked for. It's about going in there and making them

767
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: make good on a promise. Okay, that's what. But but

768
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: but in politics, in politics, you you cut the deal

769
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: before you put them in office. You cut the deal

770
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: before you go, and then you hold the deal. The

771
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: deal gotta be cut. It's gotta be an agreement. Okay,

772
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: this is what we want and and yeah, I need

773
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: you to agree to it. Now, here's the thing. Haven't

774
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: said that. I did not give body my vote this

775
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: time around. I did not give Byden my vote because

776
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: he agreed to say, Okay, yeah, I'm gonna do this.

777
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: I gave him. I gave Biden my vote because I

778
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: can't stand Donald Trump ass. I mean, I don't care

779
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: what none of y'all Trump supporters say. I don't give

780
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: a damn about Donald Trump. I don't like him. I

781
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: got tired of looking at his ugly ass face, his

782
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: stak mouth talk. I just wanted to get rich, stop

783
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: seeing his stak ass every single second in the news

784
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: eighteen stories out of twenty Donald Trump. And he's attacking everybody.

785
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: He's attacking football, he's attacking baseball, basketball, He's attacking his constituents.

786
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: He's attacking uh with vetter veteran widows. He's you know,

787
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: he's a military he's attacking veterans. He's attacking military widows.

788
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: He's attacking his own damn colleagues, and and and and

789
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: his members of his cabinet. And I just was ready

790
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: to get rid of his ass. Nah. I knew that

791
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden would be who they are

792
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: because I know who they are. And when they said,

793
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: when they when Kamala stepped up there and said that

794
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: America is not a racist country, When Tim Scott stepped

795
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: up and said America is not a racist country, what

796
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: was your reaction. I wasn't surprised. I wasn't surprised at all.

797
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: We we know it's uh, well, you know, you gotta

798
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: remember that that Um, I think everything you said is

799
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: accurate for sure, right Trump? You know whatever, man, that

800
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: guy's not he I mean, I'm surprised he got elected. Period.

801
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: He's not a statesman. He's a talk show he's he's

802
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: he's a reality star. He's not a statesman. He's a clansman, right, right.

803
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: But but this is where what I add in, though,

804
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: is that you can't tell me that Biden, who pushed

805
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: that crime bill that locked up more black people than

806
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: any leader in American history, wasn't also claned like behavior

807
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: clan can't even pull that off, you know, so, so

808
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: so I don't I give the thinger to both of them,

809
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but I look at things

810
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: just in a practical standpoint where it's like, Okay, I'm

811
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: not really mad at white people for protecting what they got.

812
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: I just don't you know, I'm not mad at you

813
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: because because I protect what I got, I'm not mad

814
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: at you. In fact, I'm not even mad at you

815
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: if you think you're white supremacist, because that don't that

816
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: don't have to matter to me. It don't matter to

817
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: me because I believe in black excellence. You might even

818
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: call me a black supremacist. I believe that, right, No, right,

819
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: I you know, I believe that blackness is beautiful, perfect,

820
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: wonderful and extraordinary and that we can't be stopped. That's

821
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: what I believe. So you can I almost argue that

822
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I believe I'm a black supremacist because I would rather

823
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: be friends with a black person that supremacist in American right, right, right,

824
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: But but I have a preference, right, And let me

825
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: just say this too, let me say this, right, we

826
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: believe that lingering out that they'll pick it up and

827
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: start running when it is right, right, right, right right,

828
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: We're not We're not hate nobody, right right. I believe

829
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: that if you love yourself enough, you don't have to

830
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: hate anybody, and you don't really give a ship if

831
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: anybody hate you. Yeah, I get my love comes from

832
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: my people, comes from myself. Man, I don't really You

833
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: could tell me, like, if some toothless hill billy in

834
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: a grocery store decides to call me the inn word,

835
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: why do I give a funk that person? You have

836
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: no power. The time when you have is the power

837
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: I give you when I make you relevant enough to

838
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: respond to you. You know what, All that's true, But

839
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: still it wouldn't hurt to make that toothless and well

840
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: you know I'm not. I'm not gonna stop that. But

841
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Remember though, when you decide to go

842
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: out and you with your kids, they call you the

843
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: inn word. You punch the toothless hill billy out, you

844
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: go to jail. You know you might lose your you

845
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: lose your job. You know all these because think about

846
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: your butt. Let let's well, let's flip it. And let's

847
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: flip it. Right. If I went up to a white

848
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: somebody that's walking down the street. Man, here, take that

849
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: right there. But let's say I'm a black man with

850
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: no power and I go up to a white a

851
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: rich white man, and I call him, you know, some

852
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: terrible word whatever work the worst word you can think of?

853
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a mess of his rich white

854
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: man life? The worst thing that you can come? Revenge

855
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: on me? What's what's the worst thing you can call?

856
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: What do you think the worst thing you can call

857
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: a rich white man? I have no idea. Where do

858
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: you think colling? What you can call him? The worst

859
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: thing you can call collect? What? Call him collect? Good

860
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: as good assid you know the worst thing you can

861
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: come the same thing that you can call a poor

862
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: white man a nigga? Call him a nigga? What? Because

863
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: many of them they ain't been called that? So when

864
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: you call one of the racist one that they ain't

865
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: got no combat because that nigga is their power. Racism

866
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: is their power. They use that man like that's the superpower.

867
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: Like without racism, without that word there, there's nothing anyway.

868
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: But they are really enough without racism. They need those

869
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: words to survive. They need that type of mentality they

870
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: need they feel to feel relevant. Well, they need our energy.

871
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: What they their power also comes to the fact that

872
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: they can control us with their words. What type of

873
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: person would want to stand over what kind of man

874
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: would want to stand superior over another man? I don't know.

875
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a complex with no but if you

876
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: read if you read the book like Power Nomics, you

877
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: know Dr CLAUDEA. Anderson kind of breaks down racism and

878
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: race as a competition. Right, So you think about sports.

879
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: If you play basketball, you want to be you want

880
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: to stand over the other team, you want to be

881
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: the one who want to be. That's fine, that's a

882
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: that's a team sport. But you don't want to be

883
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: a man? Uh. That that's you know, overpowering another man

884
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: and stopping him from making his moves. That ship is

885
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: a game, This ship is real life. I would want

886
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: to stand over another man? You know and and be supreme,

887
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, like you're talking about like like like being

888
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: a slave master basically something like that, like even the

889
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: day Well, you know one thing, you got to realize it.

890
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: But right, I don't saying capitalism. That's what capitalism is.

891
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: You either you either the boss or you're not the boss.

892
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: I've made it. I decided that if if I'm gonna

893
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: play the game at all, I want to be the boss.

894
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, and we're not. And here's but you're not

895
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna stand on another boss and stop.

896
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: No I don't. I don't want stop people from rose.

897
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: What I do is I say, look, this is what

898
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: the agenda is gonna be, and if people try to

899
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: get in the way, then we might have a conflict

900
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: over that. But ultimately, when it comes to like certain territories,

901
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: and I think every I think every black man that

902
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: that wants power needs to find some space where you

903
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: could be the boss. I don't like like like in

904
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: my house some power like that. Well, and I don't know.

905
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want to range

906
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: supreme in my own domain. I run my fucking house.

907
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't run around my house. You know what I'm saying,

908
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the size of my dick. I'm comfortable.

909
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the car drive. You know, I'm comfortable

910
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: with the money I have. I'm good, Okay, So I

911
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: don't you know, it would be fucked up if I

912
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: went and stood over someone of another race, and and

913
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: and and kept trying to belittle them, you know, calling

914
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: them all kind of fucking names or whatever to make

915
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: myself feel good. That's just a that's just a sign

916
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: of a person with low self esteem. And you have

917
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: to stand up over somebody to make yourself look big,

918
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: you know, mother fuker. I don't have to try to

919
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: make myself look big, motherfucker. I am big. Yeah, well,

920
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I think it's big. It's

921
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: an evil kind of energy, you know, and I I

922
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: think that. You know, the way my father used to

923
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: talk to me about things is he helped me understand

924
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: early that the world is evil. You know, if you

925
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: go back and you look at a hundred thousand years

926
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: of history, evil men have always come along and said,

927
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: if you can't protect what you got, I'm gonna take it.

928
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna take take your stuff, your woman,

929
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: your children all of that. To your point, there's people

930
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: that actually take pride in that. Sometimes I'm online and

931
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: people talk about how, uh, you know Americans, you know,

932
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: white Americans just stole, rape, pillaged everything and went over

933
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: and conquered places and stuff, and and then you'll hear somebody,

934
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: somebody will comment somebody that at least act like that

935
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: they're white. Online they say something like, well, you know,

936
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: survival of the fittest, you know that type of thing,

937
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: get on your ass. Yeah, we'll see yeah, yeah, yeah,

938
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Well you know, I think that you can have I

939
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: believe you can't exist in peace, you know, like like

940
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: what's what's mine is mine, what's yours and yours? And

941
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: we ain't got a fight, like you know, like Hitler

942
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: violated that. He decided, okay, I see poland over, I won't.

943
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: I want what you got and that's when he started

944
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: his invasions and all that, right and and and so

945
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: to me, it's like where that can fall apart, though,

946
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: is what if we went into a situation where we

947
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: both feel entitled to the same thing, you know, like

948
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: like I got my woman, you got your woman, you

949
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: got your woman, or whatever case may be. What if

950
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: we both have our eyes on the same woman. At

951
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: that point there may be a competition unless one of

952
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: us says, okay, you can have I'm gonna walk away. Right. So,

953
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: I think the same thing happens with land, same thing

954
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: happens with money, that you run into this and the

955
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: other thing too. Now here's the other thing too. What

956
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: if you what if you ain't working with nobody, you're

957
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: just sitting there and chilling and somebody another man just

958
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: comes along and says, I want what you got? You

959
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna eat your corn bread? Right, what are

960
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: you gonna do? I believe you have to be prepared

961
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: to defend yourself. That's my point, right, And I think

962
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: that defense is necessary no matter who you are, because

963
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: if you if you don't you know you, you can

964
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: choose not to be evil, but that doesn't mean evil.

965
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: I believe evil people will always exist. State of defense.

966
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm always on the on the defense in my old age,

967
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: when I was in middle school, not on the offense.

968
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on defense. When I was in middle school,

969
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: that was a dude named Richard Burdon me and Richard

970
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: cool not so I could tell his story. Richard Burton

971
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: Richard Burton used to terrorize people at lunch. He would

972
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: lunch and breakfast. He'd go come up to your plate

973
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: and he stand over and said you want that, and

974
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: he put his hand right in your potatoes or on

975
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: your food or whatever. He just sticking thing right now.

976
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: They'll be like people be like, no, you can have it.

977
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: So I'm watching him doing this, like I'm watching him

978
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: bullying for about a whole month at the beginning of school.

979
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm watching him just just played after plate,

980
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: student after student. Richard finally tried and when I saw

981
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: him coming, I was ready. He stuck his uh finger

982
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: in my place, said you want this, and I had

983
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: my fucker said yeah, motherfucker I wanted. I stabbed the

984
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: ship out of his ass with that. Fun went right

985
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: through his hand, and so well, I said. I said

986
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: that to say, if you already know you're dealing with bullets,

987
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: and you see the bullet coming, you already see what

988
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: the bully is doing, it's easy to get the bullet

989
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: because the bullet is gonna underestimate you. The bully is

990
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna think you just like everybody else. You're gonna boy

991
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: down just like everybody else. You're gonna take it, just

992
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: like everybody else. And then one day the bully runs

993
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: up into somebody who ain't gonna take it. And I'm

994
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: one of those who ain't gonna take it ever, And

995
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: that's what people don't understand, Like, you know, it's it's

996
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: easier to stand up and fight than it is the coward.

997
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: You know, if you fight, then you don't have to

998
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: deal with that person or anybody else as much because

999
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: the word I get around. First of all, you taught

1000
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: that personal lesson, and then everybody else like nah, so

1001
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: what he did, I don't think I won't knowne of

1002
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: that with him. You know, bullies pick their targets. No,

1003
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: no different from the way pimp picks. He knows which

1004
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: women or make good holes and which women don't. You know,

1005
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: he's not gonna go after that woman that's empowered and

1006
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: educated and has have self esteem. He goes after the

1007
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: easy prey. Right, So the same thing is true. You know,

1008
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: we look at white supremacy. That's the type of bullying.

1009
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: And I think that black people who fight back, I

1010
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: don't think they deal with you as the same as

1011
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: they deal with black people who are gonna always accommodate

1012
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: and The hard thing about a bully is that people

1013
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: don't understand bully energy. You know, bullies are naturally greedy,

1014
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: like they're like like the schoolyard bully is the original capitalist.

1015
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Capitalism unfortunately, in its worst form, is very greedy. It's

1016
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: like it's never satisfied. Right. So if you think, oh,

1017
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the bullies five dollars because you know,

1018
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: maybe that'll make and leave me alone, No, next time

1019
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back, he's gonna ask for tim you know,

1020
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: if you've got something else, he's gonna take that too,

1021
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: because he knows the easy target, you know. So I

1022
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: think in general, that's why it's important for black men

1023
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: to always be fighters, because even if you lose the

1024
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: fight the bully, even when he wins, he's still bleeding

1025
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's still kind of like dowmn, like, Okay,

1026
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: this is not there. You go there, you go like people,

1027
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: And that's what I And then I think also just

1028
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: for the women, you know, I think that the women,

1029
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: some of the black women, when they're dealing with like

1030
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: this whiny, weak little men, I think they get so

1031
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: um disheartened because they're like, we don't expect you to

1032
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: always win, but we expect you to always fight. Man. Now,

1033
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: you can't drop that when it's attached. But anyway, man,

1034
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: you just dropped the mic on that one. Man. Yeah,

1035
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: you gotta fight. Man, you got to fight. We don't

1036
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: expect you to always win, but we expect you to

1037
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: always fight. Yeah, man, I learned. But you know, but

1038
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I have you drop jewels. I had

1039
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: you dropped the mic at his wedding up boys boys

1040
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: dropped the mic doing his during his vials. Man, I

1041
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, everybody, I guess I did it right. Yeah,

1042
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: so you mentioned Dr Claude Anderson please enlightened like a

1043
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: black economists or something, right, Dr Dr Claude? When when

1044
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: did you first hear of Dr Claude? First of all, family,

1045
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: the guy is a genius. He's he's a genius. Uh,

1046
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: and he's been putting in the work for a long

1047
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: time and he's a hero. You know, when when did

1048
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: you first hear about it? I met him for the

1049
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: first time in two thousand or six, and uh, when

1050
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: did you hear about him first? I think that might

1051
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: have been the first time I knew anything about his work? Yeah,

1052
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, and he wrote power omics. And the thing

1053
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: about about pomics, it's like he wrote two books that

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: everybody once power Omics, the other ones Black Labor White

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: Well and Black labor White wealth. Is powerful because it

1056
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: gives you all that history, that black history that you're

1057
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: not gonna get in school. Like, he will tell you

1058
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: things that you that your history teachers never gonna tell

1059
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: you about how we got to where we are right now,

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00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: Exactly how they took the wealth out of black people,

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: exactly what laws they put in place, how they structured

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: white supremacy to the core, so you'll understand how to

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00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: fight it. Uh. And so like for example, a lot

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: of people don't even know that. Actually that whole idea

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00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: of enslaving somebody for life, actually it came from a

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00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: black man. There was a black man from England who

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00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: came in. I guess he thought it was one of

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00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: the white people. Came over with all the white folks.

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00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: They gave him some slaves, and at that time, all

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: the slaves were indentured servants. They would only work for

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: the master for a certain amount of time. Well, uh,

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: he had he would he would just keep his slaves

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: for life. You know, he didn't he didn't do what

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00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: everybody else did. He would just keep him, you know,

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00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: for six years. So one white guy came over to

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Speaker 1: the plantation and he talked to one of one of

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: the guy slaves, and the uh, he said, how long

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: have you've been working there? He said, oh, I've been

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00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: here forty five years. You know. He said, you he

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let you go. He said no, He told me,

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00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: I gotta be here for life. So the white guy told, no, no,

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. You can leave like

1083
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: you you ain't gotta work here no more. So the

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00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: guy ran off. He left, and so the black guy

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00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: who owned the slaves, he sued the white guy who

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00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: told his slave that he could leave, and the black

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00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: guy won the lawsuits. I don't have the guy's name

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00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: in front of me, and since that time he dr

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00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Anderson was telling the story. He said, so at that point,

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00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: white folks said, Okay, now we know we can actually

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00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: enslave people from the time they're born to the time

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00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: they die. We don't have to let them go. So

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: it was a black man, believe it or not, that

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: started that whole trend of enslaving people for life. Like

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00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: that's the type of stuff that Dr Anderson knows and

1096
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: teachers that that they never really explained to you. It

1097
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean so you're not so now, you know, just

1098
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: like when they found out that there were black people

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: that was involved in the slave trade in Africa, you're

1100
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: giving them another excuse to say even the pole. No, no, no,

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: it's not an excuse because the primary beneficiaries of slavery

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: have been white. That the wealth in America, the number

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: one factor that tells you who benefited from slavery is

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00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: the fucking wealth. You gotta follow the money. They'll talk

1105
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: about they'll talk about everything on the table except for

1106
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: the money to tell you black lives matter. Yeah, they's

1107
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: a black lives matter. We got a new bill we're

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00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: passing through for civil rights. I don't give it. I

1109
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to none of that. I pay attention

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00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: to the wealth. When you talk about the money, that's

1111
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: when I know you're serious, because they'll give you symbolism,

1112
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: but they won't share the wealth. And basically, the vast,

1113
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the wealth is in the hands of

1114
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: people who are not black because they stole that from us. So,

1115
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: so don't get me wrong, I mean, it's it's just

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00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: a factual piece of information. It fits in what you're

1117
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: talking about. You talk about you know, you said you're

1118
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: at the wedding you're talking about you use a coon hunter, right, Well,

1119
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: you know he was one of the original coons, right,

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00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, because that's crazy. Most black people wouldn't do

1121
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I think to understand the

1122
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: system itself, we know who the beneficiaries were, we know

1123
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: who lost the most. You can trace all of this.

1124
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: They don't even have to study this. They like, they're like, oh,

1125
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: we might do a study this, and that's nothing but

1126
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: the delay tactic that they use in politics all the time.

1127
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: That's why I have no faith in the politicians, because

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: they'll they'll. What they do is two ways they keep

1129
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: the they avoid doing things for blacks. One is they

1130
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: create lots of ambiguity, like they're saying, well, we didn't

1131
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: do anything for black people because we didn't know what

1132
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: they wanted. Well, when black people showed up, when serious

1133
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: fucking people show up and say we have a list,

1134
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: they don't meet with those people. Ice Cube had the

1135
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: contract with Black America. He consulted with scholar, He talked

1136
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: to Dr Claude Anderson. He talked to me, he talked

1137
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: to the brothers and teaching Ohio State, like these were

1138
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: scholars that put this ship together. Biden was like, what,

1139
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: we might meet with you after the election. But but

1140
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Cube was smart enough to say, no, after the election

1141
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: is over, we have no leverage. And guess what. So

1142
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's so it's the ambiguity. It's like, oh, well,

1143
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: we just don't know what black people want. Well, it's

1144
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: because you're not listening to the people that are that

1145
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: have specifics that they want. Second thing is they use delay,

1146
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: like with the whole thing, like we'll talk to you

1147
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: after the action. Who false of that? That's stupid, you know,

1148
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: that's like a baby, I'll I'll take you out after

1149
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: after you give me the pussy, Like, no, you she

1150
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: has no leverage at that point and she knows that.

1151
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: So it's just it's stupid. Right. So basically they play

1152
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: us like suckers every time. Man. And that's why I'm

1153
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: really frustrated with the politician. Man. Listen, if why are

1154
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: they trying to take that part of our history away

1155
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: from us? Well, because we shouldn't be letting other people

1156
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: educate our kids anyway. And I know, you know, what

1157
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm asking is like, what what's the thing called man that? No?

1158
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: Man's something that's going on right now in government? Um?

1159
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: Were they're putting it to where they can't even teach

1160
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: it and if they can't even put it in the

1161
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: textbooks no more? Um? What is that call, y'all? Ship?

1162
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: I thought I think it was critical race there as

1163
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: you talk about they passing laws and stop it getting taught. Yeah,

1164
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: why why would they do that? Um? Because because the

1165
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: story gets told by the person who won the fight,

1166
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's it. History gets told by the victors.

1167
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: You know, like even the way they talk about World

1168
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: War Two where you can't even you can't even talk

1169
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: about Hitler and the Nazis that you know, on any

1170
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: level because they just decided, we don't want you to

1171
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: learn anything about any of this. So we we we

1172
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: we have there's no room to justify anything that differs

1173
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: from our point of view. So so what we have

1174
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: to do is control our history. Man. I mean, I

1175
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: think think about this, right, you have hundreds of thousands,

1176
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: if not over a million followers. I got hundreds of thousands,

1177
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: you got I'm sure massive following online. Add up all

1178
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: the black folks that they really care about black people.

1179
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: We can teach our own people. We do not need

1180
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: no body else to do this, right, So, so I

1181
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: think that what we do is taking upon ourselves to

1182
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: just kind of say, hey, look here, we're gonna have

1183
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: some facts and information that we are going to make

1184
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: sure our people get, you know. And I think that's

1185
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: what we do as black men, as the guardians of

1186
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: our community. Like, no, we don't need to We we

1187
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: got this. You see what I mean? How do I

1188
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: want to know? How? Like if we're not teaching um

1189
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: about black people in school, which we're not, UM, Like,

1190
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how we can get that word out. Well,

1191
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, I remember I'm saying, I'm telling you that,

1192
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, the rappers were the original listening to rapper

1193
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: listening to our rappers doct this. This is one way

1194
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: to do it too. This is another way to do

1195
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: it with this podcast, information and instructions. You know, it's

1196
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: two things that the truth to do for you. It'll

1197
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: draw you to it run you away from it, so

1198
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, I think I think I think it

1199
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: will draw people to us to it. Man. I mean,

1200
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: I really think, like you talked about with this podcast.

1201
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: That's one example you got. You have millions of listeners.

1202
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that collectively we can have more

1203
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: influence over our people in the school system. Can anyway

1204
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 1: I think about this, What what the kids know more

1205
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: when they go to school? They know more about the

1206
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: stuff they learned in school? Or do they know more

1207
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: about the lyrics of their favorite artists? You know, I

1208
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: can recite Ghetto Boys lyrics going back twenty years from

1209
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: all the songs I love you know, all my favorite

1210
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: artists I I I that was on repeat. That was

1211
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: when something is repeated in your brain. That's hitting your

1212
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: self conscious mind, like that's going that's becoming a part

1213
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: of who you are. That's my music is more powerful

1214
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: than me just saying something one time. Like if I'm

1215
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: constantly repeating a lyric or whatever, you know, then that's

1216
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: that's deep. Or if I'm hearing your podcast every day,

1217
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm watching Willie d Live every single day, well that's

1218
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of me. Like people meet you

1219
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, I feel like I know you. You You

1220
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. I go through that right,

1221
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: So I personally believe that again, this is as men,

1222
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: like we just gotta at least fight and it might

1223
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: not win, but we gotta fight, right, we just say,

1224
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna make sure this information gets

1225
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: out there. You know, I read, I'll open up I'll

1226
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: open up Powonomics and I would be like, I'm gonna

1227
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: read from page to fifty five and dont and I'll

1228
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: read it and I'll give people some facts that they

1229
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: never heard. A hundred thousand people watch that video that

1230
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: that may not be everything, but that's something, you see

1231
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like, we don't need gatekeepers anymore.

1232
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: That we don't, but it's not up to them to

1233
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: dictate what's being talked to our children. Bro. Like that,

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: to me, that's wrong, it's wrong. Man. Like you you

1235
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: you you constantly put obstacles in place for us to

1236
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 1: trip over the hurdle. You know, you're constantly putting ship

1237
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: in place to make us You know, you you'll put

1238
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: the water this you want some water for him? And

1239
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: then when I reached for the water, you move it

1240
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: out the way. But you got but we got. But

1241
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: since we know we know the history, then we know

1242
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna move the water. So what we what do

1243
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: we do snatch it before they move it. In fact,

1244
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: go and take it out of their hands and then

1245
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: take over the goddamn water plant. You did what I'm

1246
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: saying that they're not distributing. They're not They're not distributing

1247
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: the water boys. You are a financial expert. Uh. You

1248
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: you have helped a lot of people, uh become uh

1249
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: finally fiscally responsible. Uh. And you have a lot of

1250
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: people make money, you know, with your with your platform

1251
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: on on on YouTube and on your website, which is

1252
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: by the way, what's the name of your website? People

1253
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: go to dr Boys tv dot com doctor and and

1254
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: and and the YouTube channel is your world dr Boys

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01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: tv dot com. All right, okay, So what I want

1256
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: to know is this, like for people like oftentimes people

1257
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: think that you need a lot of money to become

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01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: eventually become financial financially stable, right. Uh. First and foremost,

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Speaker 1: I see what you teach is being becoming physically responsible,

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Speaker 1: because before you can really become financially stable, you have

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Speaker 1: to become fiscally responsible. Right. And so so how do

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Speaker 1: you get somebody who might be living on minimum wage

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Speaker 1: to buy into that that concept of I don't need

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of money, I just gotta be responsible

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Speaker 1: with the money that I make right now, and and

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Speaker 1: and and find an avenue to make that grow. How

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Speaker 1: do you get that person from that stage to becoming uh,

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Speaker 1: financially stable and then get to a point to where

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Speaker 1: that that they're thriving and they can eventually build generational wealth. Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I would say is that, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: none of us is born poor, meaning that everybody was

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Speaker 1: born with wealth. And the reason that you might not

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Speaker 1: think you had a new wealth like I was. You know,

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Speaker 1: my mother's sixteen when she got pregnant with me and

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Speaker 1: we didn't have shipped money was but uh, you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that are valuable. You know. That's

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Speaker 1: why you know, when you get older, people hire you

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: to come work. You know, your labor is valuable, your

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: your ideas are valuable. You know, hip hop was a

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Speaker 1: multibillion dollar idea that came from us, our athletes. We've

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: got so many things in our communities that that are

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Speaker 1: worth so much wealth, and we may not we may

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Speaker 1: look past that. If you can't identify a lot of

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Speaker 1: people when they're looking for wealth, they're looking for the

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: money in the room. But there's like there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of money in this room, even no matter how much

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Speaker 1: money we have in our pockets, like our our brands

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: are worth money, you know, all of that. Right, So

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Speaker 1: I think being able to identify the money. Think about

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Speaker 1: like hunting, you know, if I'm a hunter or trying

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Speaker 1: to survive in the wilderness. Uh, some people go in

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Speaker 1: the wilderness and starve to death, you know, because they

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. But a hunter, somebody who

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: knows how to survive in the wild, they were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of food, there's berries, there's there's animals, and

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, like they can see all of that. Right,

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: So the ability to just see it is that first

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: step to being able to say, Okay, I'm gonna go

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: when the money is that right. So I personally think,

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: for example, that every child in our community at some

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: point should go through some kind of training program to

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: just learn the different ways people make money. Right, Like

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: like like if I'm trying to be a great basketball

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: player and I never go to the basketball court and

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen a basketball, how do I can't even school?

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01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: I can't s going no points, you know, you know,

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01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: so we have to sort of look at it, like,

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody is having to struggle and figuring

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: out like what the next move should be. The question

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01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: that we want to ask ourselves is how much time

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: have we spent really study and even where the money

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Speaker 1: is at? You know. It's so for example, and I

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: grew up and we talked about making money, first thing

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Speaker 1: I heard was get a job. You want to make money,

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Speaker 1: get a job. It was until I got older that

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: I learned that the people to make the real money

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: don't even work. You know, they don't even work for

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Speaker 1: the money, right yeah, yeah, So again I started off,

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Speaker 1: what do they do for the money? Because I got

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01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 1: tell what they do boys where I can see it.

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Speaker 1: You ain't gotta work for the money. Well yeah, you

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: gotta have a plan, right, So so here I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you a couple of key key things. Number One, when

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Speaker 1: they study, like like who has the most money in

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01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: this country and stuff like that, they find that and

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Speaker 1: just investing consistently in the stock market, even small amounts

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Speaker 1: of money is the big difference, man, because that's the

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Speaker 1: divide between the rich and the poor. Uh. And I'm

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01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: talking about somebody like I put it put together, so

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01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: I did some math on it. With five dollars a day, right,

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01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: less less money than you can you you can't even

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Speaker 1: buy popfeas checking value meal for five dollars a day.

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: But with five dollars a day, if somebody invested that

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: consistently without I mean, I'm talking about no knowledge of stocks.

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 1: They did this experiment. They did it with monkeys, and

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01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: it worked with monkeys. So monkeys don't know ship, right

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: they so literally a person investing five dollars a day

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: with no experience, if they even if they're randomly picking

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: different stocks and just leave the money, don't mess with it,

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Speaker 1: don't touch it. By ten years, it grows into about

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: an average about twenty nine thousand dollars, and twenty years

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: it grows to about a hundred thousand dollars. Thirty years

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Speaker 1: it grows to a quarter million dollars. Forty years, you've

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Speaker 1: got three quarters a million dollars. That's one generation, So

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01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: you can go from one in one generation. Again, five

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01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: dollars a day, but it could be two dollars, they

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01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: could be ten dollars a day. Right, the numbers might change,

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01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: but but but the idea is the same. Uh. It's

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 1: that consistent investment, that automatic kind of activity that builds

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01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: that wealth because you already do this. We everybody already

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: does exactly what I just described, except you do it

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: in the reverse direction. You do it in a way

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: where it's making somebody else rich and not you. Like,

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Speaker 1: for example, most of the people want yeah, man, most

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Speaker 1: of the people watching right now have probably paid rent

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Speaker 1: to somebody. Right. So so if you're paying rent, let's

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 1: say you're paying you know, seven eight hundred dollars a month, right,

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: which is pretty low in Chicago. You can get ship

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Speaker 1: for the eight hundred dollars a month. Let's say it's

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Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars a month, and you're doing that consistently,

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: like every month for your landlord. And we do that

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01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: because we gotta have a place to live. Or your

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Speaker 1: landlord if he's taking that money and he's let's say

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Speaker 1: he's flipping that money, putting it into the stop market

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Speaker 1: on real estate. By the time you've done that about

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Speaker 1: maybe thirty years, you've made your landlord a millionaire. They

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: will make over, like I gotta show you the math

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Speaker 1: where they will have over a million dollars that they

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: can leave their kids because you paid your rent on

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Speaker 1: time every month. So that's why it's important at some

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Speaker 1: point all of us, especially they grew up without a

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Speaker 1: lot of money to find a place where you jump

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Speaker 1: the fence. Right, Capitalism is powerful and it's also devastating

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: if it's used in the wrong way. Right, You do

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: not want to be a victim of capitalism if it's

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01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna happen, you want to be a beneficiary. So think

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Speaker 1: of it like a horse and jockey situation. Right, you're

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01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: looking at watch the Kentucky Derby. The horses do all

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Speaker 1: the work, The horses do all the running. The jockey

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Speaker 1: gets all the credit, The jockey gets all the money. Right. Well, well,

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01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: capitalism is like that. You got the horses, you got

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Speaker 1: the jockeys. So you think about real estate, which is

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Speaker 1: another area where people make a lot of money. Well,

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Speaker 1: who are the horses? Who are the jockeys? The horses

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01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: are the renters. The renters are paying the bills, right,

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01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: the jockeys are the landlords. Like I gotta I bought

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01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: a condo with my girl not too long ago. The

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: mortgages like eight hundred a month. The tenant pays US

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred a month. And I said, this is insane.

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01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: This person is buying this house for us right now

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Speaker 1: In Chicago. Yeah, and we got other we got other property. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for those type of returns Mann. Yeah. Man.

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: But you know, if you do the same thing in

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: Houston too, though maybe maybe it's not seventeen, but it

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01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: will be some amount where the tenants rent will exceed

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01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: the amount of your mortgage, and if they pay the

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Speaker 1: rent consistently, then they really have bought that house for you.

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Speaker 1: You get the house. Where's another horse and jockey? Another example? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you look at when when most of us are trained.

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Speaker 1: This is where white supremacy gets us. A lot of

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: us are trained early to go work for other people,

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: and that we're working for other people in other communities. Right,

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01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: So the horse is the employee. The employees putting in

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01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: the work. You're sacrificing thousands of hours of your life.

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: You spend more time with your bossing on your job

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01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: than you spend with your own damn kids. Right, we

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01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 1: were trained to think that way. This is not supposed

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: to be like that. They trained us specifically to do that.

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01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: When you go to college. For the only thing they

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: teach you in college a lot of times it's how

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: to go work for somebody. That's why universities exist. That's

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: why HBCUs exists to create better employees. Right. Well, well,

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: well the horse, you are the horse. When you the

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: employ you die at your desk because you grind it

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01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: so hard. In this corporation, the jockey is the shareholders.

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: The jockeys are the people that own the company. Uh

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, like I owned stock in a lot of companies. Man,

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: I make money just because people go to work every

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: day and then the stock price goes up and I

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: make money from that. Right, so, so, so you want

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01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: to be the jock the horse, not the jockey. You

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: made the jockey, not the horse. The third area would be, um,

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: let me see it's stocks, real estate. Well sorry, when

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01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: you're talking, okay, stocks, real estate, and owning the business

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: are goo. Those are the three areas. So basically the

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Speaker 1: third ones. And let me make sure throw this out

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: there too. When you go buy stuff, right, black people

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01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: are extraordinary consumers, Like we love to buy things. Like

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: when they write research reports on how to get money

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: out of blacks, they talk about black people will buy stuff,

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: especially for celebrity endorses and if celebrity says by it,

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01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna go buy it. This is what they write

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: in their reports and the corporations. Right. So we love

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: to buy stuff. We always fly the shoes, the new iPhone, whatever. Right.

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: So the horse is the consumer who's buying things. The

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: jockey is the producer who makes the product. Right. So

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01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: in this system, it's okay to be a consumer. It's

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: okay to sometimes be a renter, it's okay to sometimes

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01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: be an employee. But you don't want to do that

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: your whole life because you spend your whole life doing

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01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: all the work and getting none of the benefit. All

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: that money is trickling up, you know. So you want

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01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: to train your kids like, look, I want you like,

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: we have a thing we tell our kids, and we

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01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: have a kids program in the Black Business School, and

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: we tell them to keep your poise and poises p

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01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: o I s E and stands for what we want

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01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: them to be. You want to be a producer, you

1449
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: want to be an owner, you want to be an investor,

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01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: you want to be a saver, and you want to

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur. If you do those things, if you

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01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: teach those things, like you look at all the kids

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: in the hood that the hustle and have all the

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01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: skill and can do all these other things. Um, if

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: We just, for example, created entrepreneurship centers for young black

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: males in every city across America. That would increase black

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: wealth by a couple of trillion dollars. Because I know

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: most brothers don't enjoy working for other people. They just

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01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: would never taught any other option. Yeah, uh, you know,

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01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: we can go all day, man, but that's our time. Man.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on, man, and you got so

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: much to you got so much more to offer, Man,

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01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: so much I would I would love to. I would

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01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: love to sit down again and pick your brain real

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Speaker 1: soon on on this show, man, because Dr Watkins is

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Speaker 1: the troop. Mind. Y'all don't understand. I appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 1: and congratulations again on on on the on the on

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Speaker 1: the wedding, you know, the marriage, the beautiful bride, y'all

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Speaker 1: look good man. In the food, damn that food was

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Speaker 1: good man. You know, I tried to get another plate. Man.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't give me another It wouldn't give you another plate. Man.

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Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, yeah, we we got a brother

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Speaker 1: brother came down from Dallas and made the food. Man.

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Speaker 1: We tried to get all black everything for like who

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Speaker 1: were hiring on man? That food man. That look, man,

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Speaker 1: I've been to a few ways and that food was

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Speaker 1: actually that that was some good food. Man. Crab cakes, Man,

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Speaker 1: crab cakes and filate me young damn it man. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had some soul food for the rehearsal dinner. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: handsome man. We had, Man, we had rehearsal dinner. Man.

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Speaker 1: We had uh what was it? Uh, let's see, um,

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Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. It was. It was some chicken. It

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Speaker 1: was some uh salmon, I can't remember. It wasn't it

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Speaker 1: wasn't salmon. It was it was cash fish, some collared greens. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's you know? And then you know, some peach coplin,

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Speaker 1: some sweet. It was on point. And in the beach

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Speaker 1: house is big old, three story beautiful beach house. Man.

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Speaker 1: Oh man. Yeah, they did it up. They did it

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Speaker 1: in the style. Man. Everything was spraying. Then they had

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Speaker 1: this chick name Victory Man that was singing. Yeah, Victory

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Speaker 1: Boy was Victory's last boy boy. Yeah, Victory Man. And

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Speaker 1: she she lives in our New Jersey. But she cold

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Speaker 1: blooded man, man. Yeah, yeah, she she's blowing up to man.

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Speaker 1: She's signed with rock Nation, killing me. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think actually she I think on Kanye's last album. She

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Speaker 1: wrote three songs. You know, so she's like every time

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Speaker 1: people see her for the first time, it's like that man,

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Speaker 1: that that voice smooth like self. Man. Yeah, man, Well

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Speaker 1: if I if I met you before, I would have

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Speaker 1: invited you. Brother. No, trust me, I'm not moving around

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Speaker 1: right now anyway. But I congratulate you on your marriage

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Speaker 1: and thank you. You know, many many years of love,

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Speaker 1: wealth and health. Enough time to spend that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, enough time to enjoy it. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming to the show you. Thank you really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And and thanks for your wisdom and your knowledge you know,

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Speaker 1: uh with with with all that you speak to us, man,

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate that. And um, thank you. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: our community, our community could really use some of those words, man,

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Speaker 1: because right now it's just a whole lot of fucking

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Speaker 1: mumble ship going on and we need sound decision makers

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Speaker 1: and sound speakers to address our community now because we

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Speaker 1: don't have any. So we appreciate you again, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: oh brother, No More, No More Talks. This episode was

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Speaker 1: produced by a King and brought to you by the

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