1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Elizabeth Dutton, Zaren Burnett, I know you, I know you. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: I had a question for you, my friend. You know 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: what's ridiculous I do? Look look at that grand you 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: do waffle. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: House in so many ways. I didn't want to leap 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: to it and make a good ridiculous. I'm not anti 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: waffle House. 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: I didn't think you were. 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: They have that whole like waffle House scale, Like they 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: stay open during hurricane Yeah exactly, God bless and like 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: I love like divy places on road trips, and then 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: you paid for it later you're like, oh god, I 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: never eating again anyway, waffle House. When you think of 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: waffle House, do you ever. 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 4: Think of beer. 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: Drunks? 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Right, there's this brewing company that a couple of years back, 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: five years back now, a Cony brewing company. They reached 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: out and they're like, hey, waffle House, I know I 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: snuck it. Hey pw you want to make a can? 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: Webeth No, this is what they're like, Hey, Ring Ring 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: waffle House, can we make a beer with you? 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 4: And they were like, I don't care what you do? 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 4: What is it? 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: So they they titled this this Beer bacon and kegs, 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: and it is a red ale and it has a 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: multi character enhanced with quote salty, savory and smoky bacon extract. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: I think like way behind on the Holy Baby. 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Well twenty twenty was still way behind them. They had 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 4: like they. 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: Were like handing out the little handlebar mustache feels. 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: Much more twenty twelve, twenty fifteen in that range. 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: So they're late to the party. They reached out. They're like, yeah, 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: it sounds all right. Then the pandemic hits and then 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: like end of. 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty and want bacon beer. 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think a lot of people would have 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: hit up bacon beer. People were desperate. So anyway, waffle 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: House is like, yeah, fine, whatever. 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: It's not like they put a lot of effort into this. 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: This brewing was like, we're all about it. 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: So they have the the artists do this can then 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: has waffle House on it, bacon and kegs. It is, 45 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: as they describe it, a red beer, a dark red 46 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: beer with like a deep bacon flavor. 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't even is it smoky, you think in smoke flavor, 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: dark riven color. 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: The beloved scent of bacon stands out from the typical 50 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: medium hop aroma of a red ale. 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: So they like ground down some baco bits. 52 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Shod in silky bacon extra so they just squeeze it 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: in advice. 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Like you think there's real bacon involved. 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: Totally and so it's not. 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: It's not this is a product of New Jersey chemicals. 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: No, it's a it's a Georgia, Greensburg, Georgia. 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: I bet their flavorings came from New Jersey. 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: Probably, so anyway you can get it from them. I 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: don't know if they're still doing this because it's back 61 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: in Twa, Twana. I just you know, I'm trying to 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember where I found it. It came 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: from a rude dude, Emily Robertson dud. She was like, 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: check this, and I checked it, So there you go. 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I do appreciate the energy, if not the result. 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: Thank you me too. 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: Last week I told you about psychic detectives. Remember how 68 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: much fun that was? Why I promise we'll be back 69 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: with more stories from the Niguard Psychic Detective Casebook. Well 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: here we are, only this time we're going to focus 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: on a victim who is a man, because last time 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: it was all women and I wanted, I said, I 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: wanted to point out the gender differences because I noticed 74 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: in reading these stories, in these news stories, that when 75 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: a phony psychic wants to count a man, they were 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: in a whole different game. 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: Oh, this is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: out rageous capers, heist and cons. 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: It's allways ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: percent ridiculous. Yes, Elizabeth, Oh, Sarah, so you seem ready 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,279 Speaker 2: for round two with Bob niger. 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: Ready hardcore into it last time around. Okay, we just 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: jump nothing but think about it and you know, waffle housepeer. 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: But like when I wasn't thinking about waffle House beer 85 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: is Bob Nigarden, I was all Niguard. 86 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: However, a week for you. 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, little Bobby Niguard. 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: Well, dateline, Manhattan, twenty fifteen. Oh okay, what's the story? 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: Great question, Elizabeth, Glad that you ask that. Well, there's 90 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: this man, this cat, this dude, Nile n I A L. L. 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Nile Rice like the food, Nile Rice falls in love. 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: But okay, we need to back up a little bit. 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: That's jumping way too far ahead. Nile Rice is from England. 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: Good for him, right, Nile was a young man doing well. 95 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: In fact, he was a good kid, Like he hoped 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: to one day buy a home for his mom and 97 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: back in England. Nice. You see, he'd been raised poor, 98 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: you know, single mom. Now he's doing well for himself. 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: He wants to share his good fortune with his mom. 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: Like I said, kid's a good egg. And also he 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: was like in his early thirties at this point when 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: the story begins, So he was hoping to find his 103 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: special person now that his life was rolling all along. 104 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: He's putting in bank by like you know, the six figures. 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: The guy's doing well, right, just stacking it away, and 106 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: he feels, I'm ready for love. I can handle that 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: kind of you know, next step in my evolution. Now, 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: he wasn't actually the ready to talk to women. That 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a problem for Nile. He was, Yeah, 110 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: it was a big hurd all right there. Yeah, he 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: was shy, he was uncomfortable in public spaces. He wasn't 112 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: very confident in himself. He suffered from anxiety. So he 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: started to drink to give himself that social lubrication that 114 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: drinking can provide. Right, But as you react, it only 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: led to problems. So because soon he was drinking so 116 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: much just to be social, he started adding in drugs 117 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: to the mix because you know, some of the people 118 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: he's hanging out with are like, hey, you want to 119 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: try this? 120 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: He's like, oh, why not have that experience of being like, 121 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: you know, I don't like the whole introvert extrovert because 122 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it exists, but. 123 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: I think spectums a little bit. 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: White people don't understand too a lot of times that 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: introvert is like, you can be on and social, it's 126 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: just draining. 127 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: It takes sure, it doesn't give you any energy. Yes, 128 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: but so if you're but if you're like awkward. 129 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: And and anxious, and then you're able to, you know, 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: become a different person with alcohol or drugs or whatever, 131 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: it's really appealing to be like, oh, well, dang, I'm 132 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: just gonna you know, a magic formula totally and you 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: become a different person. 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: So he finds that and then all of a sudden 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: it's it's there's a cost to this magic formula, right, 136 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: And so then he has to pull himself together and 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: he decides he needs to go and get treatment. So 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: he decides to go to rehab in the States, he 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: flies over to Arizona. 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: Oh, American rehab man, I. 141 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: Don't apparently often. I've had a lot of friends go 142 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: through it. There's some programs that are great. Some programs 143 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: are just money drains. 144 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of those, like oh, you're back for. 145 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: The third time, we got your room over here. 146 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: But it sounded like a really nice locale. 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Yeah it's like Malibu. No, okay, I won't pick on 148 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: that place. But the story I know about like taxi 149 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: drivers being sent there and then let's go pick and 150 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: score and then like I know about like anyway, it 151 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It promises we can't do that. But Elizabeth, 152 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: you may be like me and wondering why would anyone 153 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: from outside America want to quit drinking in Arizona? 154 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Right? 155 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's just maybe. But anyway, he wasn't moving there. 156 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: He just wanted to check himself into rehab facility in Arizona, 157 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: and I canna spend too much time. He enters treatment 158 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: for his acute anxiety as well. He doubles up for 159 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: uh yeah, exactly so, and when you know what, this 160 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: is where he finds love, right, and he's like starts 161 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: taking care of himself and then boom. No, Nile meets 162 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: this woman named Michelle. She wasn't working at the rehab facility, 163 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: she was also there for treatment, and, as Nile remembers 164 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: a quote, we had such a strong connection was unbelievable. 165 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: I'd love to deeply Now, Elizabeth, have you ever seen 166 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: the movie Speed? 167 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: Which one is that with? 168 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: It came out in nineteen ninety four? 169 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: Is that? Then? 170 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: Reeves stars friend of the show Kenna Reeves, along with 171 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: America's sweetheart of the nineties, Sondra Bulls. 172 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: That's a great movie, right, yeah. 173 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Do you remember at the end of Speed, Canna Reeves, 174 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: his character says to Sondra books character, quote, I have 175 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: to warn you, I've heard relationships based on intense experiences 176 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: never work. 177 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: That's good advice right now. 178 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Sondra Bullocks character replies, okay, well we'll have to base 179 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: it on sex then, okay. Right, So she's like kind 180 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: of like, the only way to meet this is that spirit, 181 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: which is we're going to defy the odds. So this 182 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 2: couple they're like, we meet in a traumatic experience, they 183 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: try to start a relationship. 184 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: Are you not supposed to totally. 185 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: Not supposed to date people in rehab? 186 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 4: Yes, it's pretty. 187 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: Much like ground rule number three, I think. 188 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 189 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: So basically what happens for Nila and Michelle is they 190 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: go through this speed post traumatic. Oh, we love this, 191 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: this is amazing. We both feel so alive, we feel 192 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: like new people each other. Yeah, and so they start 193 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: to think of each other's twin flame. Yeah, so Nile 194 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: and Michelle they fall in love. 195 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 6: Right. 196 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: So then they both get out of rehab, and sadly, 197 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: Michelle kept up with her drug habit, so she took 198 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: too many pills and she overdoses and after her relapse, 199 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: gets sent back to the rehab facility. Right, And that 200 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: was also the end of their burgeoning relationship because obviously, 201 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: Michelle realizes she needs to focus on herself, so she 202 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: tells him that she's not in a place where she 203 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: could be in a relationship with Nile, and perhaps thanks 204 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: to rehab and his increased sense of self confidence and 205 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: newfound perspective, Nile tells her he agrees. He's like, oh, 206 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: you know what, that's that's the best way to look 207 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: at it. We both need to focus on ourselves and 208 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: if down the road, perhaps we can make it work out. 209 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: So he tells her, focus on yourself, baby, and you know, 210 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: and your recovery now. So at this point, you know, 211 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: as he would tell it later on, I was moving 212 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: on with my life right now. At this point, also 213 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: still in his early thirties, Nile is a young professional 214 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: working as a consultant. He's doing search engine optimization. Those 215 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: of it. Don't hold that against him. I saw that face. 216 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 4: Now do you say consultant? So he set that up 217 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: to say to consultants. 218 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: Like one the things when I first got out of 219 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: college and I went to this this party for a 220 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: friend of mine on the Peninsula and most of the 221 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: people at the party had just. 222 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: Graduated from Stanford. 223 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: Oh of course, and I'm. 224 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: Talking to him and everyone's like, oh, what do you do? 225 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: What do you do? And every single person would say, 226 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: I'm a consultant. 227 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: It just means I'm self employed. 228 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you just got out of college of consulting. 229 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: Are you going to do exactly? This is the way 230 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: of saying I can be hired for anything, and I'm 231 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: self employed. I'm a jack of all trades because I 232 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: don't have a skill yet that I can tell you. 233 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: That's what I did exactly, But you know, don't let 234 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: me say anything I'm just saying that crowd, that crowd 235 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: in particular exactly. 236 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: Now, if you're a consultant and you're listening to this, 237 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: it doesn't apply to you. 238 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Oh I've been called a consultant, you know, like numerous 239 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: times because of like what I was doing. Someone referred 240 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: to me, Oh, yes, we've hired this consultant. I'm like, oh, 241 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: that's what I am in this situation. 242 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it does happen to you. 243 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: So anyway, So now he builds his life for himself 244 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn because he's in search engine optimization in twenty fifteen, 245 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: now he can just be Okay, Well he gets a 246 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: place in a cool loft building in East Williamsburg. Right, 247 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, he's one of those kids two former warehouses. 248 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: Now there they warehouse young hip people. 249 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: Right. 250 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: So maybe it's his proximity to all these other young 251 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: couples living near him around him. But Miles starts to 252 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: feel a little lonesome. Right, Nile thinks maybe back to 253 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: when he was last happy, and he thinks of Michelle, 254 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: the woman he fell in love with him rehab. Yeah, 255 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: and he keeps thinking how she's doing Maybe they could 256 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: be doing that together. He could be doing it with her. 257 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: That'd be awesome. So does he pick up the phone 258 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: and call her? Does he slide into her dms Elizabeth? 259 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Does he email her a confession of his feelings and 260 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: the fact he's still thinking about her? 261 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: Does he stalk her on social media? 262 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: No? No, and no. What does he do? Well? Instead, 263 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: he's out walking one day in New York and he 264 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: gets an idea. He's a big time walker, this kid. Right, 265 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: he walks over the Williamsburg Bridge and I'm not sure 266 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: if you know this. It takes them from Brooklyn into Manhattan, right, right, 267 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: So now he's on Delancey Street and he sees someone 268 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: he thinks might have answers about Michelle. 269 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: I want to guess who Nile saw Michelle's dad. 270 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: No, good guess though. Is a neon sign? A big 271 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: neon sign was in a. 272 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: Storefront window hot Krispy Krean. 273 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: It said psychic. It was a psychic storefront shop on 274 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: that West forty third Street. Nile opened the door, walked in. 275 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: This is the most seeking answers about Michelle. 276 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh completely, it is. So at this point, 277 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. 278 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: I went to rehab in Arizona. Then I moved to 279 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 3: Brooklyn to do some sort of computer nonsense. 280 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should clarify at this point I was wrong. 281 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: It was this is August twenty thirteen at this point. 282 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 3: Okay, well twenty thirteen. So now I'm going to go 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: to a psychic and okay. 284 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: So Nile's life is about to dramatically change, right. He 285 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: meets his young woman named Brandy. As he puts it, 286 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: she knew a lot of stuff now, Okay. For instance, 287 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: she told. 288 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: Him is she a fine girl? 289 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: Would not be so perfect if she was. So, she 290 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: tells him this is an example of how she knows things. 291 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: I see that you are connected to this girl. I mean, 292 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: like shot in the dark there. She also tells him 293 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: that he and Michelle are twin flames. He's like, that's 294 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: what we used to say, man. So yes, yes, yes, 295 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: is what Nile is thinking on the inside. So and 296 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: then you know, he tells this to Brandy and then 297 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Brandy's like, oh, yes, her spirit talks to me. And 298 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: he's like oh. So Nile tells Brandy about his long 299 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: lost love Michelle, and she seems to be moved by 300 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: their love story, like she's touched. She's like, I got 301 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: to get you two crazy kids. 302 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: Back together, like Michelle's alive. 303 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, total, yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing like 304 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: her spirit. I don't mean to like she just feel spirits. Elizabeth. 305 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: She just like she just ut. Yeah, she's like a 306 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: you know, like a radio receiver to all the spirits 307 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: on earth. She just had to get the like right setting. 308 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: And he's telling her like, yeah, try one of three five, 309 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: that's Misspelle. So at this point, he says, you know, 310 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: referring to Brandy the psychic, she said, if you could choose, 311 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: would you want to be back with her again? Yes, 312 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: Nile is all the way. So she promises, I can 313 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: help you put you two back together. I want to 314 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: see you two kids back together. And also I know 315 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: secret things, so I know to help you. 316 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: Man. 317 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: Brandy tells him, you know, it'll only take you a 318 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: deposit for my services, just a cool twenty five hundred. 319 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: We can get that set up. It's like, think of 320 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: it like a lawyer. I'm just on retainer here to 321 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: do because we're gonna need to do a lot of work. Again, 322 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: He's like yes, right, So now walks out, hikes over 323 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: to a Chase bank. He pulls out the twenty five 324 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, turns around, goes right back to Brandy hands 325 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: or the hot money, and she then promises him that 326 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: don't worry, you'll get your money back. I don't know 327 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: how that will work out from me. I don't know 328 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: if Michelle's going. 329 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: To give it back to Michelle's going to be like, 330 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: look at all this cash I have. 331 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: Somehow this money is going to come back in the 332 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: on this road to Michelle, or once he's with Michelle, are. 333 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: Found in the backyard of the rehab. No pile of cash. 334 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: He ends up, as he puts it, I ended up 335 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: giving her ten grand twelve grand in the first week. 336 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: It's hard to explain. Now. When he spoke with The 337 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: New York Times, he attempted to explain it, and he 338 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: said it wasn't like saying, give me ten grand and 339 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: I'll tay your shoe laces. There's a half truth in that. 340 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: There's something in it. This whole psychic scam is based 341 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: on them knowing what's going on in your life. They 342 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: have a gift. Now, what does he mean when he 343 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: says they have a gift. Well, she milked him like 344 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: a prize dairy cow. Oh, that's her gift right. For instance, 345 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: Brandy told him she needed diamonds to protect her energy 346 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: and his energy. Why they did this important work. So 347 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: my man Nile tramps over to Tiffany and Company. 348 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: Are you sure he's clean? 349 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's clean as far as everything I 350 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: was understanding about him. He's with somebody who's flushed with 351 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: a lot of cash, lonely man by himself in New York. 352 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: And she senses that. So she's like, you know, sends him. 353 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: Out to Tiffany Diamonds. 354 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Yes, Lux Jewelry to quote ward off evil spirits Elizabeth. 355 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: The ring from Tiffany cost forty grand forty large fort now. 356 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: In return, Brandy invites him to come spend his birthday 357 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: with her. Oh yeah, but not just her, her whole family. 358 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: Oh great. 359 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: They cooked this birthday boy a steak. It's his birthday, 360 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, I'm over hang out with us, 361 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: oh for a year y and they make a shit. 362 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: She's trying to play off like that's her fiance to 363 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: her family. 364 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: No. 365 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: I think that she's just trying to like make him. 366 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: She can tell he's alone, so I think she's like, yeah, 367 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: come I go with my family. I got a lot 368 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: of family will make your stake birthday boy, So he 369 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: feels a little special right anyway. Based off Brandy's support 370 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: of this dream to reunite with Michelle, she tells him 371 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: he needs to go to her, so he eventually buys 372 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: a plane ticket and flies out to where she is now, 373 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: which is Los Angeles. Okay, that's where Michelle's living at 374 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: the time. Okay, I'll take a little break. When we 375 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: get back, I will tell you what happens when Nile 376 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: meets back up with Michelle. I'm so scared, Elizabeth, Jaron, Hey, 377 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: are you digging this? You like a Nile and Michelle. 378 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm so fast. I'm really worried. 379 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: I you know, I think I'm going to open a 380 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: storefront that says psychic and people come in and be like, 381 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: give me five dollars. And He's like, should I find 382 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: this girl? No, move on with your life. 383 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: Someone new, find someone new. I see it in the start. So, 384 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: as I said, Nile buys himself a plane ticket to 385 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: fly to LA where Michelle is now located and living 386 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: her best life. Okay, now, does Nile contact Michelle before 387 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: he buys said plane ticket? 388 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: You're kidding me, No, he does not we have her 389 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: contact in for me. 390 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, he tells him her. He plans a surpriser. 391 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: How does he know where she lives? 392 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: In La Facebook and stuff? Man, Well, he'll contact He'll 393 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 2: contact her once he gets there. He doesn't know. He's 394 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: not going to show up at her house like knock, knock, 395 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: Hey I'm here. It's noil. 396 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know this guy. 397 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: He plans a surpriser, like, hey, I'm in town. You 398 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: know you want to link up? He does this. He 399 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: arrives in l A. He texts Michelle. He tells her, 400 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: I'm in town and you like to see me? And 401 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: she's like oh, She responds, that's a good sign. Right, 402 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: She'll texts him back, I'm on a boat, but let's 403 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: meet tomorrow. Yeah right. So Nile was beside himself, she 404 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: responded positively. He's thinking about it all. Then it's told 405 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: me to see you tomorrow. That's gonna be so amazing. So, 406 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: as he told The New York Times, I was ecstatic. 407 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: Now would you believe it? She texts him the next day, 408 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: Elizabeth look good for her and the Twin Flames. They 409 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: make a plan to meet up. They do meet up 410 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: and in person, they talk, they reconnect, and they make 411 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: plans to go out that night. Okay, but then she 412 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 2: texts him later and she la flakes on him. 413 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: Was she like, I don't go over the four or five? 414 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: Not that kind of flaking, that's true, la flaking. It 415 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: was just more like, oh, yeah, I said we were 416 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: gonna hook up over not maybe later, pretty soon, I'll 417 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: text you that kind of thing, right, Because Nile tells it, 418 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: Michelle texts him and said she felt I had been 419 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: acting strange. So, as Niles also added to the New 420 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: York Times quote, the only way I was caught up 421 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: in it, she said afterward, I was I was acting weird, strange, weird. 422 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm imagining, Yes, that's what I said. He didn't say 423 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: that explicitly, but that's what I'm guessing. 424 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And she's just she gets home and she's like, 425 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: oh big. 426 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: Even if he just said like, hey, I flew across 427 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: the country because I wanted to meet up with you, 428 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: my twin flame, that enough would do it. 429 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: So what do you do it? What brings you to 430 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: Los Angeles? 431 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: There's a high chance that's going to blow up in your. 432 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: Face, yeah, which is well, it's a lot it's intense. 433 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this person's showing up with a lot 434 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: of story. Yeah, you know, it's just so we don't know. 435 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: What's been going on in her life exactly, you know, 436 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: like we don't know how many sugar daddies she has. 437 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: Now, or sugar mama's or children. Yeah, or like maybe 438 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: a good professional gig going that's taking a lot of interest, yes, 439 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: Or maybe she's just gotten into surfing and she's like, 440 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm dancer. 441 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: Early Jane's addiction now, yeah, who knows. I can't say 442 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 4: what we used to say. 443 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: What we do know is that Nile goes back to 444 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: he flies them to New York. He's like, I only 445 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: go back to my life. So what do you think 446 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: he does next? Elizabeth goes to the psychic. No, we 447 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: got himself a new psychic. Oh, because yeah, psychic was wrong. 448 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: Those diamonds did not work. 449 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: No, So at this point, Nile's back in New York 450 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: shopping around for a new psychic. Elizabeth, I don't want 451 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: you to worry. He finds one, now, I love that. 452 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: He's like, that didn't work because the psychic told me 453 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: to do it, So I should just get a different. 454 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: A more powerful psychic and what is. 455 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: He hoping to accomplished with new psychic and. 456 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: Kind of get Michelle back? Same goal, same goal. Yeah, 457 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: this is why you give a man a different they 458 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: need quest. I'll give you a little insight into men. 459 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: Men need quests, doesn't matter straight or gay, asexual or not. 460 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: Men need quests. They love They respond to them. Yeah, 461 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: you give them a challenge, you say I'd like you 462 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: to do this. They go out there, and if they 463 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: suffer and they hate it and it sucks, they'll still 464 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: make that into a positive expression of their like how 465 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: much they care for you, because look, I suffered these 466 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: things and arrows for the quest. And the quest can 467 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: be like could you go get me hoggin DAWs And 468 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: it's like two in the morning. 469 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: Is that like your hardest quest you've ever received? 470 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: No? No, I got much harder quest. So his quest 471 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: is he needs to needs to find a powerful mage 472 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: to help him on his quest to get back the princess. 473 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: I have gotten. It's been a psychic. 474 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're understanding that the dynamic of 475 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: how much emotions shape people more than their actual rational thoughts. 476 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: You I often noticed that you were like, oh yes, 477 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: why did they do that, like I aspire and admire 478 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: how rationally you think other people are. I think that 479 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: they're emotional and then they rationalize their emotions. 480 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: That's for sure. 481 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 2: You have an overlay of a matrix of like, oh, 482 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: like this story he's telling himself, Like, like I said, 483 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: he's a knight eron going out there. Now he's gonna 484 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: get his magical his mage to help him. 485 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: Really easy for me outside of the situation, like why 486 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: would you do that? 487 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: When I've done dumb stuff like that? 488 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: Totally, I can tell you why. He's in love and 489 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: he's love with the story he's telling himself. It's still love. 490 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: So he's gonna act love strucked and dumb. But the 491 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: other person's like, what are you talking about? Because she's 492 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: in love with a story, not a person. Right anyway, 493 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: the new psychic Elizabeth, her name is Christina Dalmorrow. Okay, 494 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: now remember that name, it'll keep showing up. This is 495 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: Christina Dalmorrow, and she had an answer for why the 496 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: surprise trip to la didn't pan out for Old Nile. 497 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: Christina tells him that Niall had a dark spear there 498 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: was dooming their love. But the good news was she 499 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: knew what to do to vanquish and banish the dark Spirit. 500 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Guess how much that would cost? Oh, no, twenty eight 501 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, Elizabeth. 502 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 4: Well it's cheaper than the ring. 503 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, I can get you in the dark 504 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: Spirit out of here by twenty eight thousand dollars. And then, 505 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: but also, I'm sorry I misstated that's the opening. I 506 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: also need another twenty eight thousand dollars to close the deal. 507 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: So open the deal twenty eight grand, twenty eight grand 508 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: to close the deal. That's fifty six thousand dollars. 509 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: As a public service, I need to start doing like 510 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: an advice colin. 511 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: You really do get paid really good advice. You can 512 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: be paid a lot by people who actually might. 513 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: You need yours all their money. 514 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't actually like flee them. 515 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: You just kind of like for this, for this type 516 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: of thing. Someone needs to why didn't work when I 517 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: went out there? 518 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: All right, sit down, let's talk about why this didn't 519 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: work because you came on a real strong path. 520 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: No one likes that. 521 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 4: That was just you just like that, holding a giant 522 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: red flag above. 523 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Your head and then turned poking, and they're like, why 524 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: why don't you love me? So at this point, when 525 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: here's the fifty six thousand dollars to freedom and love, 526 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: Nile says, hmm, you're saying that Michelle, my twin flame, 527 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: and I am meant to be together, but there's this 528 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: malevolent spirit dooming them, and fifty six thousand of what 529 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: it will cost for us to beat the damon and 530 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: be together, you got a deal. 531 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: Well, he's like, what is that in pound sterling. 532 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: Yes. 533 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: From then on, as he put it, Nile led a 534 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: double life. I go back to Christina and talk about 535 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Michelle for an hour and then go back to the office, 536 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: and she wouldn't leave me alone. She was like family. 537 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 4: Wait, he goes and talks about this woman. 538 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah for a yea psycho. It's his therapist. You see 539 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, it's his He need actual I have. 540 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: Known people who came out of rehab clean, yes, but 541 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: they need other addictions. 542 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: Yes. 543 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: So a lot of them become like vegan and they're 544 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: addicted to that, just eating clear, and they're like really 545 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: into a certain like spiritual thing, like they get really 546 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: into whatever name of spiritual name of spiritual movement, and 547 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: then that becomes like the addiction because they need that focus. 548 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: So this guy's something to give you habit and focus 549 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: and then also hope in a connection to tomorrow. 550 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 4: And there's like the high of it. 551 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: So and he's like, yeah, she's willing to stoke him 552 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: with Okay, Yeah, here's how we're gonna feature twin flames 553 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: so you guys can burn brighter. 554 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: Flame. 555 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: So as we've kind of been like teasing out, even 556 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: Nile recognizes this, and he would later reflect back and 557 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: say that I needed my mom. Really, Remember, this is 558 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: this guy with a single mom. He was raised together 559 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: and now he's out in New York by himself, and 560 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: then he he needed his mom right. Well, eventually and 561 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: Ile did tell someone about this strange relationship with Michelle 562 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: and his new psychic Christina, And he tells his roommate 563 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: Lauren Horton, right, and she tries to get him to 564 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: see the light. She's like, listens, listens, and she's like, 565 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: what the absolute f As she told The New York Times, 566 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: it was insane to me. I told him how many 567 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: times he was out of his mind. He was convinced 568 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: that if he didn't pay her for the work she 569 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: was doing for him, bad things would happen to him. 570 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: Can we pause for one second and think about how 571 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: bad your life is if your roommate is telling the 572 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: New York Times how out of control you are, Like, yeah, wow, 573 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: that's a high bar classify it. 574 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: Wow. So after she, you know, she kind of pings 575 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: what we've been talking about his addictive nature. She also 576 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: compares his relationship to the psychic as this new and 577 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: much more expensive addiction. She's like, he's just make God 578 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: found himself a more expensive adare it is? But he 579 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 2: doesn't want to hear it. He wants Michelle. So he 580 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: moves out, and he doesn't cut off contact with his 581 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: now former roommate Lauren Horton. Though he wasn't that guy 582 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: wasn't so severe, right, But he moves so a new 583 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: apartment and he invites his old roommate over for Christmas dinner. 584 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, it'd be nice to see an aisle. 585 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: She pops over because you know, I guess she didn't 586 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: leave town. And trouble was Christina was invited as well. 587 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: So she gets there and the psychic is there, and 588 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: Laura is bothered by the presence, right, She's like, what 589 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: are you doing? Why is she here? I thought I 590 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: told you she's pleasing you, yeah, and he's like, yo, 591 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: be kind And as Lauren told The New York Times, 592 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: I didn't like her because I knew what was going on. 593 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: So you know that that was an icy Chris dinner. 594 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 4: Three of them, I. 595 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: Mentioned a couple of other people, just three of them, Yeah, 596 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: like a Charlie Brown, Christmas. 597 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 4: Dree eating McDonald. 598 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Christina and Nile they're they're working overtime to reconnect 599 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: him with Michelle out in la and Christina she's got 600 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: a new plan, right, She tells him they need to 601 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: have a funeral, not a real one, a lit I 602 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: don't want you worrying, but it was a fake funeral. 603 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: They need to have a fake funeral. Now. The reason why, 604 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: like why fake funerals aren't great? Question, Elizabeth. It was 605 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: because the demon. They needed to trick the demon that's 606 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: haunting Nile into believing that he's dead, so that way 607 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: the dark spirit would move on and haunt somebody else. 608 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: So I thought they were going to like trick Michelle 609 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: to come to his funeral, find out how she really 610 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: trick and then coffin. 611 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: That's a bit too much, I think, Although it's a 612 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: good play for sympathy been a dark one. Yeah. The 613 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: fake funeral that she tells them and plans to trick 614 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: the demon with is not going to be cheap. Of course, 615 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: you can't just get like a this demon understands what 616 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: kind of money he's got. He needs to have a 617 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: shit funeral for him. 618 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: Well, and the mortuary industrial complex, Oh yeah. 619 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: Good luck. Forty racket was the cost. It gave it 620 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: forty grand forty cock that's what she dropped. She's like, yeah, 621 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: it'll be forty quid or sorry, forty thousand dollars. So sadly, 622 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: the fake funeral does not do the trick with the 623 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: dark Spirit. It just keeps on stocking Niles happiness. I know, 624 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: but Christina Elizabeth has a new plan. Don't worry right now. 625 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: Can you guess what they need? Don't guess? It's ridiculous. 626 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: They need a time machine. 627 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: Wait, remember before last week? Now they needed time. 628 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember before how the phony psyekicks I told 629 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: you about. They told him they needed to go back 630 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: in time night. Yeah, so you need to go buy 631 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: an expensive watch because you want to use the best material. 632 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's so she went. 633 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: She tells them to buy uh, you know, with the 634 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: female vis it was a Cardier watch and then dunk 635 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: it in the Sacred Lake in Pennsylvania. Same plan for him. 636 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: Christina tells Nile he needs to buy a thirty thousand 637 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: dollars Rose gold Rolex watch and he does his instructed 638 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: and would you believe it is a it. It didn't work. 639 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 4: Because he didn't rub an egg all over his bad I'm. 640 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: Telling you that darn dark spirit. 641 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: It's so stubborn. But Christina the psychic dawn power shot 642 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 4: on it. 643 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh, that stuff will take evil right out of the way. 644 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: Or Irish Spring three and one. 645 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: I love when you have this good Reddit advice. So 646 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: I assume that's where you got that. 647 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: That's all I do. 648 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: So Christina the fake psychic, she's not done. She's got 649 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: a new plan. This scheme is definitely going to trick 650 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: a demon. This has tricked every demon she's ever come across. 651 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't start with this one. Yeah, right, 652 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: But they're like, you know what, we're going to need 653 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: the Golden Bridge. 654 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 4: Oh, of course, the Golden Bridge. 655 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Now I don't want you imagining like, oh, and I 656 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: was gonna fly out to San Francisco and use our 657 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: beloved Golden. 658 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: Gate bridge'st psychic battle. The rainbow bridge. 659 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. This is not a reasonable bridge. It's 660 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: not even a bridge. It exists in our physical realm. 661 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: No, No, he needs. 662 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: A literal bridge of gold, that one that exists in 663 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: the spirit realm. Apparently there's gold in the spirit run. 664 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: So in the spirit realm, you have a bridge of 665 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: gold that's going to lure the dark spirit to cross 666 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: the bridge of gold, and then it would get stuck 667 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: on the other side, and I guess they would like destroy. 668 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: The bridge real quick, Zaron. 669 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: It makes so much srapping the demon in the spirit realm. 670 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: Why didn't I think of this earlier? It was like 671 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: right there in front of you. 672 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: Totally, it's obvious. This is why she's like. So was 673 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: frustrated with herself, and I was like, okay, let's do it. 674 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: So Christina's like, cool, Cool, that'll run you eighty grand 675 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: for an eighty mile long bridge of gold. 676 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: That's cheat cost. I mean, come on, So he did. 677 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: It's shovel ready exactly. 678 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: It's the kind of project is he's turn key. I 679 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: think he called it he shovel Ready's actually you're right, yea, 680 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: So of course Nile pays because he's like, I want 681 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: a bridge of gold. I want to trick the demon. 682 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: Let's do it right, and he gets the update. This 683 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: damn dark spirit is so stubborn wouldn't cross the bridge. 684 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: He tried lourd it over with tree, totally lourded. 685 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: Over, but it wouldn't cross all the way. So what 686 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: that means is Christina and Nile would need a second bridge. 687 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: Because of course she didn't think about it. Twin Flames 688 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Elizabeth demon just hopped over onto like a Michelle's bridge 689 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 2: and then hot back. So the whole point was for 690 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: them to get free and be able to love each 691 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: other and be together in the future. They'd need a 692 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: second bridge from Michelle. 693 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: And it's obvious, well, we're all slacking not thinking of that, right, 694 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: so that. 695 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: We should get the whiteboard out and just like actually 696 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: work this out. Though by the way, it's gonna need 697 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: to be ten miles longer. You know what that meant 698 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: was the problem ten grand more? Well, yeah, so, as 699 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: Niall told The New York Times, I thought to myself, 700 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: I have the money just sitting in the bank. So 701 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: he paid. It's ninety grand for an imaginary Goldbrian. 702 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: A second, A second, goldbrit You have the money sitting 703 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: in the bank. That's a good thing, because you know, 704 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: a lot of things are gonna happen in your life 705 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: that you don't expect, aside from psychics draining your pocket book. 706 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: He wants to be with Michelle, his twin flame, Elizabeth. 707 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: It's a story he's telling himself, and he's operating according 708 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: to the rules of the story. 709 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: As someone who's like looking down the barrel of like 710 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: not having any retirement. 711 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: And I hear like, oh, well, I'll just I'll let 712 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: you know. After a year of working with Christina Delmorrow, 713 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: Nile was down in the hole for three hundred and 714 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars what one year? 715 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: What? What? How much money is he making? 716 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: I told you he was making bank. I don't know exactly, 717 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: but he had like at least like seven figures in 718 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: the back. So now I don't want you to worry, though, because, 719 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: as you know, she promised he'd get that money back eventually, 720 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: he remember. 721 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: So I don't worry about it, Elizabeth, just. 722 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: Keep a tab like I owe you spirit realm now, Elizabeth. 723 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: Reality eventually interceded. Finally, it was February twenty fourteen, Nile 724 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: went on Facebook to check on Michelle, see how she 725 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 2: was doing. That's when his whole world fell up from 726 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: underneath him. As he put it, I saw rip Elizabeth, 727 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: his twin flame, had passed. She was dead. Michelle had 728 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: died a little more than a week earlier. Oh no, 729 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: from a drug overdose. Oh totally sad. Yeah, real, absolute tragedy. 730 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 2: Now angel, He gets pissed. He contacts his psychic at 731 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: Christina and asks, what the hell happened here? 732 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: Right? 733 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: And then I will tell us the times Christina said, 734 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: don't believe it. If you believe it, it's true. 735 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: Wait, don't believe yes, so, but. 736 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: It was true. It was denying her corporeal existence. She 737 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: had passed. Now, But Nile wanted to know, how did 738 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: his psychic not see this coming? Right? Question? Pually the 739 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: money he's paying. 740 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: Down to the other end of the golden bridge, it 741 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: should be there that informations. 742 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: Like Polly Walnuts in the episode of The Sopranos, he 743 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: goes to the frase, you left me unprotected? Right, So anyway, 744 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: how did this dark spirit haunting him and his twin 745 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: flame give give no indication that Michelle gone to the 746 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: other side? You think one of the twin flames going 747 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: out suddenly, she might notice it. Christina total pro She's 748 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: got this handle. She has an answer. She tells Nile, 749 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: I told you she had evil spirits. So the phony 750 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: psychic claims it was the dark spirits that took her life, 751 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: took her, dragged her to the other side. We're doing 752 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: dangerous work dark. Yeah, but not only that. Now Christina's like, 753 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: don't worry. Don't worry. I got a new plan for 754 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: how we can get Michelle back from the other side. 755 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: They're going to resurrect. 756 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: They're gonna resurrect, They're going to reincarnator. They're gonna reincarnate Michelle. No, 757 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna pull her spirit back from the other side. 758 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: There you go, that's the question. You see boom. They 759 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: would create a new Michelle. This new Michelle would not 760 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: exactly be the old Michelle. But her plan was to 761 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: coax Michelle's body into the body of a thirty one 762 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: year old woman. 763 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: She's going to be like a robot. 764 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: She's like, you're thirty what thirty one, thirty two? O. Yeah, 765 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: we'll get you a thirty one year old woman. We'll 766 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: put Michelle's spirit into her I don't know where that 767 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: woman's spirit goes. 768 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: Name is Michelle. 769 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, she tells Nile that together we will reincarnate Michelle. Right. 770 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: So at this point, the whole story is basically the 771 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: plot of the Steve Martin movie The Man with Two Brains, Right, 772 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: if you ever seeing. 773 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: That one, that's what they're pulling. 774 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: They're like, how do we get to share it in? 775 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: I wish she would just go back to doing drugs. 776 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, So I haven't told you the wildest 777 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: part yet, but uh, I'll leave that to Nile. Rice, 778 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: as he told The New York Times, I'd slept with Christina. 779 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: Oh really, but just wants Elizabeth. They slept together just once, 780 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: and Nile recognized it was a massive mistake. Oh, changed 781 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: things between them, changed their professional relationship. Yeah, because she's 782 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: not the new Michelle. He's still waiting for the new Michelle. 783 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: This wasn't part of the transmutation magic. No. Yeah, so, 784 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: but she and she didn't do like a spirit transfusion 785 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: like I'll let Michelle rent my body for the night, 786 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 2: or like you know, I take it over. It wasn't 787 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: one of those either, right, It was just like straight 788 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: up the two of them Now, what does happen at 789 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: this point is Nile moves out of New York, right, 790 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: but where does he move Elizabeth? 791 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 4: Of course everyone. 792 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, he decides he went out there to find 793 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: his new Michelle because he's like, that's where old Michelle was. 794 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: Michelle will pick up the story, right. 795 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: There, probably a lot of Michelle. 796 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: A lot of possible Michelle's. By the way, he's still 797 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: staying in contact with his old psychic Christina. So one 798 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: day she emails him to let him know, I just 799 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: saw someone in the supermarket. It might have been her, right, 800 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: new Michelle. Yeah, because she also let him know, by 801 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: the way, I'm still working hard to reunite you, twenty 802 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: for seven round the clock. In fact, she's working so 803 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: hard on his case that she has no other time 804 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: for her other clients. Oh no, And thus Chelseon needs 805 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: a little more money. So she was telling him and 806 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: he recalled it. She was homeless, she'd lost everything for me. 807 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: I believed she'd lived in a church. 808 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 4: Wait the psychic, Yeah, grand. 809 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what she's telling him, and that she's now 810 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: living in a church. 811 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: Where's the money church? 812 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: She's homeless in living in a church, like taking shelter. 813 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: There no. 814 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 4: Nia. 815 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 2: At this point, He's given her so much. He's not flushed. 816 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: He's like, baby, I can't he'sah. 817 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: But he borrows some money because he's still he feels bad, right, 818 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: So he sent her twenty eight thousand dollars. He had 819 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: so much he borrowed. But that's not the end, Elizabeth, 820 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: because he dipped into his life savings and then he 821 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: sent her the last payment that he would ever send 822 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 2: to Christina. He called it the big one that Elizabeth. 823 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: He sent her one hundred grand. It was so much money. 824 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: His bank wanted to know he wasn't being scammed the money. 825 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: They're like, what is this forge, I plan to buy a. 826 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 4: Car, right, one hundred thousand dollars. 827 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 6: Yeah. 828 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: For a brief moment, it all seemed to be working. 829 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: Nile met a new woman in Los Angeles. 830 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 4: Was she on a boat? 831 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: No, not on a boat? And Christine of course tells 832 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: him that's new Michelle. But she was not the thirty 833 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: one year old woman that that Christina had predicted her. 834 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: You know, she wasn't set a twenty four year old woman. Oh. 835 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: Christina was like close enough, that's her, right, you know, 836 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: And you know it's not exact science, it's not anyway. 837 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: After a while, Nile came to the conclusion that Michelle's 838 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: spirit was not inside this new woman. This is not 839 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: my twin flame. Oh no, she was not the reincarnated 840 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: New Michelle. So the couple soon broke. 841 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 4: Up and poor new girl. 842 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as Nile explains it, I was being weird. 843 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: So again, you're kidding. 844 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: He still had his own story going and there was 845 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: no room for her. 846 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: She's asleep and he's whispering in her ear, like. 847 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: Michelle, are you in there? 848 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: I know you're in there. Wiggle your does of it? Yeah, 849 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: And she's just like keeping her eyes closed, pretending to 850 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 4: be asleep. Like how do I get do. 851 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 2: I need to send more money? So after his fallout 852 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: with New not Michelle or not New Michelle quote, he says, 853 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: this caused me to start thinking that tomorrow wasn't everything 854 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: she was supporting to be. 855 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 4: Oh what? 856 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: So he moves back to New York. He leaves La 857 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: and now he can't make his new life in New 858 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: York work anymore. I guess the seo engine market just 859 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: fell out. So he's in the city. He's now Also, 860 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: he's given away so much money. I mean, he's hundreds 861 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars. 862 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 4: It costs a lot to move across country. 863 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: That as well. Yeah, so he has to sell his 864 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: BMW and then he has to beg his father to 865 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: borrow some money just to afford his life. Right, but still, 866 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: as I said, he's back in New York, so you 867 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: better believe. He contacted Christina the psychic. Oh sure, and 868 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: he tells her like, oh, yeah, I sold my car, 869 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: I had to move out of my apartment. I've been 870 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: begging my family for money, but I still need your helps, right, 871 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: and so what's her response, Elizabeth? 872 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: Is this a plus you twenty five grand? 873 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 6: No? 874 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 2: Remember I said I'm out of money, but I need 875 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: your help. What's her response, Elizabeth? She ghosts him. He's 876 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: out of money, He's out of money. She can't work 877 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: the spirit realm without something. 878 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep putting the putting the cash. 879 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no free steak dinners. So Nile at this point 880 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 2: he gets pissed. He finally finally sees that he'd been scammed, 881 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: so he goes to the NYPD. Oh, and then he 882 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: contacts Bob Niguard, and Nile tells Bob Niguard that he'd 883 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: been scammed to the tune of seven hundred and thirteen thousand, 884 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 2: nine hundred and seventy five dollars. Oh my god, seven 885 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Also, by this point, Christina del Marrow 886 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: was in the wind. Nobody could find her. He's like, 887 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 2: I've been by the storefront, she's not there. So, just 888 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 2: like with the female Vick who'd hired him, Bob Niguard 889 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: didn't judge Nile. He promised him he'd get him justice. 890 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 4: Nice. 891 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: So Elizabeth, let's take a little break and after this 892 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: I will come back and get you some justice. 893 00:38:49,600 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 7: Nice, Elizabeth, we're back. 894 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: So I got a question for you. Yeah, So, do 895 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: you feel good now that Nile has figured out that 896 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: he was getting scammed and Bob Niguard has entered the picture. 897 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 3: I feel so much more comfortable now that Bob Nightguard's picture. 898 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: I mean, just like you can imagine him coming in 899 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: for door, steely eyed look, gauging the scene. Who's the 900 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: phony psychic in this past? 901 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: I cannot wait for him to put the hammer down. 902 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: Oh well, I got good news for you, Elizabeth, because 903 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: rather than me tell you more about how Bob Nigard 904 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 2: gets justice. Elizabeth, I just liked you to close your 905 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: eyes and I'd like you to picture It's a Friday 906 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 2: night in the month of May, and you are in Manhattan. 907 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: At the moment, you were a seated atop the head 908 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: of Bob Niguard's psych a Detective. The reason why you're 909 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: atop the dome of the Private Investigator isn't anything weird. 910 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: It's because that's right, Elizabeth, you are Bob Niguard's fedora. Yes, specifically, 911 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 2: you are a brown hair and rabbit fur felt snap 912 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: brim fedora made by Italian hat maker Alessandria. You are 913 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: the model called the Bogart by Borsolino, created in collaboration 914 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: with the Humphrey Boguard Estate, and you hold a secret. 915 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: In your gray satin lined interior, there is a printed 916 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: silhouette of mister Humphrey Bogart and a gold stamped quote 917 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: of his do everything, one thing may turn out right. 918 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: This could also be Bob Nigard's motto. The Psychic Detective 919 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: has that same metal and sure he styles himself like 920 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: cinema tough guys like George Raft, Jimmy Cagney and of course, 921 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: Humphrey Bogart that he also lives like him. Today, You 922 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: and Bob are on the case. He caught a break 923 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: when his phone rang, and it was a tip. You 924 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 2: spent the afternoon gum shooing around Manhattan. You're trailing after 925 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 2: the psychic who's been bleeding his latest client's bank account. 926 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: You and Bob may with the sidewalk foot traffic, that 927 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: swell of humanity that fills the avenues of Manhattan. And 928 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: since it's May, it's hot enough that you can even 929 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: smell some of that swell of humanity. These people are 930 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: right anyway. Bob follows the psychic down Broadway. Slow moving 931 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: tourists brushed shoulders with Bob as they gate at the 932 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: skyscrapers and the neon signage of Times Square. But you 933 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: and Bob are on the case. He doesn't lose sight 934 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: of the psychic as she slips streams past a family 935 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: from Minnesota and turns the corner. He sees the psychic 936 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: throw her arms open and hug a man. Bob recognizes 937 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: the man. It's the husband. He opens the door of 938 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: a steakhouse and the couple steps inside. The door closes 939 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: behind them. Bob lifts you off of his head. He 940 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: wipes sweat from his brow, well earned sweat. He thinks 941 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: a moment, and then replaces you atop his head. He 942 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: pulls his phone from his pocket dials a familiar number. 943 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: The call connects You. Hear the muffled voice of a 944 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: detective from the NYPD. Bob gives him the score. The 945 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: two make a plan for a little surprise. Bob repockets 946 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: his phone and heads for the steakhouse. You cannot wait 947 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 2: to see how this is going to play out. Inside 948 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: the steakhouse, Bob asks for a specific table. He wants 949 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: to be able to keep an eye on the psychic 950 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: and her husband at his table. Bob takes you off 951 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: sets you on the white tablecloth. It's a soft seat. 952 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: From where you are on the table, you have a 953 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 2: good view of the psychic. She and her husband enjoy 954 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: glasses of wine. They're in a celebratory mood. Why not, 955 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: Bob sighs, knowing his client is the one footing the bill. 956 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: The waiter brings a glass of ice water. You hear 957 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: Bob as he orders a prime rib medium rare, and 958 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: for a side the new potatoes. Good choice, you think 959 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: to yourself. It feels like a slow eternity passes if 960 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: Bob clocks the psychic and her husband as they drink 961 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: wine enjoy their steak dinners. But then you spot the 962 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: two NYPD detectives step into the steakhouse, and they don't hesitate. 963 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 2: They see Bob. He points out the psychic's table and 964 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: the detective's head right over. You watch the table and 965 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: see the psychic as she looks up. Her big smile 966 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: falls when she sees two of New York's finds standing 967 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: over her. The detective's turn, they look at Bob and 968 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: give him the nod. Bob picks you up, gives a 969 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: little wave to the detectives and to the psychic. Christina Delmorrow. 970 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: Her face scrunches up in a mask of anger and shock. 971 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: The face of the cat perp. 972 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 4: I the fedora. 973 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: I thought that he's done for you. You seem like 974 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: a snap brim kind of gallan you. Yeah, there you go. 975 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: You got some justice. Once old Christina Delmorrow gets busted, 976 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 2: the charges come quickly. Nile Rice and Bob Nigar and 977 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 2: they hand over their evidence financial records. The NYPD hands 978 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 2: those over to the DA. Interestingly, though Nile, the victim 979 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 2: didn't include the fact the first psychic Brandy in his 980 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: big witness, that he left that out, like, I don't 981 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: want you to know from twice you may not want 982 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 2: to get me justice. So anyway, she somehow avoids criminal proceedings. 983 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: So at this point I just wanted kind of to 984 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 2: point out something that I noticed that we've you know, 985 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: kind of talked about now that we've got in the 986 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 2: little justice for the guy. Yeah, I'll get to what 987 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: happens when she hits the criminal justice system. Just comparing 988 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 2: his story to the stories I told you last week, 989 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: What did you notice was like a big difference if 990 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: you if you don't mind me asking, I just won't 991 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 2: e anything jumped out to you. It was about how 992 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: the psychic works the victim. 993 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: I mean, well, it's interesting because you were talking about 994 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: how men need a quest and this really focuses in 995 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 3: and like feeds that. 996 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: Yes, there's the women didn't have that. 997 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: What did you notice that the psychic sold to the women? 998 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: I would describe it, I don't I don't want to 999 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 2: put work in the mouth. I can tell you my 1000 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: exact I like it. So what this seemed that the 1001 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: psychics were just selling the women, But that they needed 1002 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: to fix themselves, and the psychics. 1003 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, you're right. 1004 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: The women, you're right in this case can usually cure 1005 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: their depression. But it was still made into yeah, you 1006 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 2: have a dark spirit, will fix. 1007 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 4: You, get rid of the spirit. 1008 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 2: And then and also it came from your mother, your stepmother, somebody. 1009 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: It's always another woman, so that they made it an 1010 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 2: interesting social commentary for the guys who were vixed the psyche. 1011 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: They see them coming and they promise them, I'll give 1012 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: you whatever it is you desire. Now, not every guy 1013 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: wants a woman specifically, right, Sometimes they want wealth, yeah, 1014 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: the power, but they had that, yeah, that desire for 1015 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: wish fulfillment and a quest. 1016 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 4: They're not going in saying what's wrong with me? Fix me? 1017 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: Exactly? 1018 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 1019 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 2: And then it's also the psychics aren't reading them that way. 1020 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: So even when they just do the cold reading like 1021 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: they did with the women on the street, it's like 1022 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 2: you see a woman who looks kind of like in 1023 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: a dour mood, walk up to her and go, you 1024 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: have a dark spirit over you. Nine times out of 1025 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 2: ten she's like, I suffer for depression, Yes I do. Yeah, 1026 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: But they're like no, no, no, it's not that, and 1027 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: so the gulliblego, really something else, and you can cure 1028 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 2: this because I've never been able to get free. 1029 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 4: Yes, and I was the psychic saying to do I'll 1030 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 4: fix you. I'll fix you. 1031 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no point you notice that Also, all the advertising 1032 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: I think in our society aims at fixing women and 1033 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: then sending men on ways to go aspire to something. 1034 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 4: Exactly women's advertising. 1035 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 3: They'll tell you a problem you didn't know exactly, Like 1036 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 3: remember Dove deodorant had a thing about like your unsightly 1037 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 3: under arms. Oh yeah, like, oh, this deodorant'll make it so. 1038 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 4: That you're Wait, what I gotta worry about that too? 1039 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: Keeps growing endless? All right, Well, on a funner subject. 1040 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: Back to Bob Nigo, psychic detective. So after he arranges 1041 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: for the steakhouse arrest, he helps Nile Rice to navigate 1042 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 2: the next steps and knowing from his days as an 1043 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: NYPD detective, as he puts a quote, the thing that 1044 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: makes a person a perfect mark also makes him a 1045 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: bad witness. So Nile's case, what particularly made him a 1046 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 2: bad witness was the fact that he slept with his psychic. 1047 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 2: That's right, because that made it possible for her lawyer 1048 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 2: to argue that all of the money was a gift 1049 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: to his lover. 1050 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 1051 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: Yes, but the prosecutors managed to do their job and 1052 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: they actually did get a conviction. Well, Christina Tomorrow pleaded guilty. 1053 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 2: They got it a flip right, And by the way, 1054 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: that's not her real name. In court, Niall learned that 1055 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 2: his phony psychic's real name is Priscilla Kelly Tomorrow, and 1056 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: so also her husband, Bobby Evans, who was also a 1057 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 2: arrest did as we saw in the steakhouse. The charges 1058 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: against him were eventually dropped, which is a damn shame 1059 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: because he clearly was her criminal co conspirator, like at 1060 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: least benefited from the crime. Like there's I found on 1061 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 2: the Daily Mail, because the Daily Mail takes the classic approach, 1062 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 2: like we check social media of the husband. So the 1063 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 2: British tabloid and they found that they after scouring his 1064 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: social media, the phony psychic's husband had been posting a 1065 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: bunch just bragging on what he and his wife have 1066 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: been able to do with this money they've So they 1067 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: were a post of this married couple taking vacations paid 1068 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: forward Niles money. They're at resorts. They got cocktails in hand. 1069 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: They're like, look at Boujie. 1070 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 3: Right, So we're looking for Michelle man Elizabeth always on 1071 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: the lookout. 1072 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know they were doing working twenty 1073 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: four to seven. Sometimes she might have been at the resort. 1074 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: You don't know. She could have been at sandals. 1075 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 4: Could have been at a dolphin there, Chris spirit. 1076 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 2: It's not bound to the rules, we know. 1077 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: Feeling. 1078 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 2: So one video, this is one video of the husband, right, 1079 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: and he's laughing at the camera, just like, aha, this 1080 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 2: is look at me, right, king of the world. He's 1081 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 2: standing before a brand new Mercedes Sedan, the Silver Beauty. 1082 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 2: He's wearing a new suit and his friend, he's got 1083 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 2: friends all around him. They're all shouting. You can hear 1084 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: it on camera. One friend says he became the man, right, 1085 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: and another's like Bobby Evans is like quick to correct him. 1086 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: He's like, I did it. I became a millionaire. I 1087 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 2: did it. Kelly, Kelly did it. And that's when a 1088 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: woman in the video shouts behind him, Kelly did it. 1089 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 2: That's right, and her husband agrees, sure did So they're 1090 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: given Kelly Christina all the credit, right, and he's the 1091 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: one with the well yeah, with the Mercedes and the 1092 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: millionaire status. Now, so he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't 1093 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: catch any charges. So you see why I'm a little bothered. Yeah, Anyway, Meanwhile, 1094 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: after doing eight months behind bars, the phony psychic gets 1095 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: released back in court. She cries and promises to the 1096 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: judge that I'm very sorry for what happened. Now, interestingly, 1097 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 2: the court does not order her to pay restitution. I 1098 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 2: was wondering now Bob Nygard felt that she should. He's 1099 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: spin in a lot of his cases. He's like, there's 1100 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: clear evidence of fraud and so forth, But because he's 1101 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: slept with her, they're like, we don't know. So it's 1102 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 2: just like who knows. The prosecutors don't push for it, 1103 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 2: no restitution. So Bob and Iguard's like, well, look for 1104 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 2: other victims I can tell you about him. The prosecutors like, 1105 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 2: now we got justice, let's just move on, because once 1106 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: again they don't want to keep busting psychics. It doesn't 1107 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: make them look good as far as they're concerned. Meanwhile, 1108 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 2: Nile Rice, he returns to England and to his mum. Yeah, 1109 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: he admitted to the New York Times that he's been 1110 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 2: drinking again. So oh, Yeah, he feels like he's a 1111 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: bit of a broken man. He said, quote, I don't 1112 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 2: know if I want to make money again. I'm scared 1113 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,919 Speaker 2: to Yeah. And his victim impact statement, Nile Rice said 1114 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,919 Speaker 2: of himself and others like him, that they often feel 1115 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 2: this deep shame afterwards for being conned, like they're so 1116 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: foolish and if they tell anyone, they're going to lower 1117 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 2: themselves in that person's esteem. As he put it, quote 1118 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 2: for those that do, like myself, they face instant criticism, 1119 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: are judged as a sucker an idiot, all right, So 1120 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: he's he's dealing with that now. A little update on 1121 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: Christina and Nate, Kelly, Delmorrow and Bobby. While she was 1122 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 2: in jail, her mother in law, Bobby Evans' mom, took 1123 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 2: over the psychic shop before Christina was released from jail. 1124 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,919 Speaker 2: So in that eight month window, the mother in law 1125 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 2: also gets busted. The victim stop it. It was a 1126 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: young woman. She showed up to the storefront psychic shop, 1127 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 2: drawn in by one of the flyers. Right, She's promised 1128 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: answers to two questions for the low low price of 1129 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 2: ten bucks. So she's like, I got ten bucks. So 1130 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: of course this is just the beginning, the mother in 1131 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: law tells the young woman, you're cursed. There's a dark spirit, 1132 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 2: you know, And in fact, she tells her it's her 1133 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: mother who cursed her and the curse was passed on 1134 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: to her. Boom, boom boom, same story again. The psychic promises, 1135 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: I can fix you and fix the dark spirit. So 1136 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 2: and of course it'll come at a price. The psychic 1137 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: tells a woman just go over to Dwayne Read the 1138 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 2: drug store and pick up a three hundred dollars VISA 1139 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: gift card. And once she comes back with that gift card, 1140 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 2: the psychic mother in law we can get to work. Right. 1141 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 2: So the woman comes back the next day to the 1142 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 2: psychic storefront and the mother, the psychic mother in law 1143 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 2: tells her that they need to get a decorative water 1144 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: fountain to lift the curse. Not a time machine, a 1145 00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: decorative water. 1146 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 4: Fountain to fountains of ways in jerseys. 1147 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 2: Like, what do I mean by decorative water fountain or 1148 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: water column? 1149 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 4: In this case, it's a water feature for the yard exactly. 1150 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 2: Imagine a forty nine inch tall column made of quote, 1151 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 2: natural slate and copper that can instantly transform quote a 1152 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: small selection of garden or office into a relax and 1153 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: get away. 1154 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 4: Sounds like something in Skymall exactly. 1155 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: The cost three hundred ninety nine dollars thirty nine cents, okay, 1156 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 2: which I'll have you know includes shipping and handling. 1157 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 4: Oh it does. 1158 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: So the young woman, dutiful client that she is, she 1159 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 2: buys the decorative water fountain and also shows back up 1160 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 2: a two five hundred dollars gift cards. So that's fourteen 1161 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. She's sinking into this at this point. But 1162 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: that's not all. The psychic mother in law tells her 1163 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 2: she needs twenty three candles to perform the ritual. Remember, 1164 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 2: candles are expensive, right, Elizabeth, how much you think I 1165 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 2: mean when I say candles are expensive per candle. 1166 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: I don't know what is six hundred dollars per candle? 1167 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's expensive. You know, candle's better 1168 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: than idea. 1169 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 4: That's pretty. That's the same time, it. 1170 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 2: Seems like you're getting a big amount of candle. That's 1171 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 2: not like a tapered I mean, there's I see it 1172 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: in church kind. 1173 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 4: There's some I don't know that's that's very expense. 1174 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 2: This is a bridge of gold too far for this 1175 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 2: young woman. She's like, I don't think so, so she 1176 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 2: asked for her money back, and then the psychic mother 1177 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 2: in law is like no, So that pisses off this 1178 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 2: New York lady, so she calls Bob Niguard's psychic. He's 1179 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 2: delighted by this client because she takes matters into her 1180 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 2: own hands. Before he can even really get too involved, 1181 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 2: she goes back to the psychic storefront. She walks right 1182 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 2: in and she takes back the decorative water fountain. She 1183 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: drags it outside. She gets like it. She says, she's 1184 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 2: on the Manhattan Street. She hails down to passer by, 1185 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 2: gives this person to help her drag it back to 1186 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 2: her place, and then she eventually sends it back to 1187 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: the water fountain maker and gets her money back. Oh, 1188 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 2: thank goodness, and thanks to Bob Niguard. The n VIPD 1189 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: went down to the psychic storefront arrested the psychic mother 1190 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: in law. They're like, thanks again, Bob, So this is 1191 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 2: the family affair. Yes, so missus Evans, the mother of 1192 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: Bob gets busted. So when the New York Times stopped 1193 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: by that same psychic storefront and found there was a 1194 00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 2: new psychic working the posts totally is led Zeppelins. The 1195 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 2: song remains the same. Elizabeth Or as P. T. Barnum 1196 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 2: would say, there's a sucker barn every minute, And I 1197 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 2: would add, because we are all born suckers. You have 1198 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 2: to learn not to trust the wrong people, because we 1199 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 2: so want to believe the people who tell us exactly 1200 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 2: what we want to hear. Especially that person is ourselves, 1201 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 2: as in Nile's case, he was telling himself exactly what 1202 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: he wanted to hear. Now, just like the mafia, these 1203 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 2: storefront psychics are also a family business. I kind of 1204 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: hinted at that before. Well it's Bob Nigarden puts it. 1205 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 2: It's organized crime. That's how he sees it, right, because 1206 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: it's a you know, it's a crime family and they're 1207 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 2: doing organized crime. And as he had a fellow investigator, 1208 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: Michael Barbuck, he told the Dallas Observer, let's say you 1209 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: want to open up a psychic parlor, you would have 1210 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 2: to go to whoever controls that area and ask permission. 1211 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 2: They're very organized. You're part of the mafia, you get 1212 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 2: you get jumped in essentially like okay, you're part of 1213 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 2: this family, you're part of the genovisy or whatever the equivalent. 1214 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 2: So this essentially my point is is I do feel 1215 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: bad for the young girls who then get pressed into 1216 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 2: becoming storefront psychics and then grow up in this life. Yeah, 1217 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 2: but at the same time, you do have a choice. 1218 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 4: Everyone is always a choice. 1219 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: And unfortunately this kind of goes for the victims. I 1220 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 2: feel badly for them, but again, you do have a 1221 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: choice everyone, So please look out for the stories that 1222 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: you want to believe because it feels so good to 1223 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 2: be true, it probably is very true. And yeah, and also, 1224 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 2: as Bob Nuguard would put it, quote, if you think, well, 1225 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm just not that stupid, it's never gonna happen to me, 1226 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 2: don't be so sure of that. No, exactly, it's not 1227 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 2: too hard to trick yourself exactly. So el what's our 1228 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: ridiculous takeaway here? 1229 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 3: It makes me think of you know, my mother always 1230 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 3: has this thing that she says when she hears these 1231 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 3: kind of things, the lies we tell ourselves totally, and 1232 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 3: it's you have to constantly be checking yourself. Am I 1233 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 3: lying to myself about the situation because I'm trying to 1234 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 3: fit something into what I want? Yes, I find it fascinating, 1235 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 3: like just how dead set this guy was on Michelle 1236 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 3: and like, you know how predatory. 1237 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 4: It was, like facilitated, totally delusional. 1238 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,359 Speaker 2: He's willing to swap spirits into a new woman's body. 1239 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: We had no conversation about what happens to the spirit 1240 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 2: of that woman. 1241 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 4: No, oh, no, forget it, that's not it. 1242 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't find any quotes about that. I was like, 1243 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 2: what happens in this little Mampa Tuo brain scenario? 1244 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 4: She just goes off into the ether. 1245 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need her. I just I need the body. 1246 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put the spirit I like in the 1247 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: body I want and boom, boom boom. 1248 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 4: There's like little regard for actual people. 1249 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 2: You see why he can fall in love service. 1250 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 4: Their fantasies and delusions. Saren, what is your ridiculous? 1251 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 2: I feel so good to hear that from you. 1252 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 4: Feel nice, you feel validated. 1253 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 2: Well kind of piggybacking off what you said and your 1254 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 2: your girl, Joan Diddyon. But we tell ourselves stories in 1255 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 2: order to live. Well. You also can tell yourself stories 1256 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 2: in order to, you know, to live, but not in 1257 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 2: a way that's good for you. Just because you're telling 1258 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 2: yourself a story doesn't mean you've got to be very 1259 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 2: cautious and be very you know, in charge of the stories. 1260 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 2: Be very hands on about the stories you're telling yourself. 1261 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 2: Don't let other people get you going, and then tell 1262 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 2: that story to yourself. And then also don't let yourself, 1263 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: you know, spin you off into whole life. Oh I'm 1264 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 2: this like who? I don't really know? Who? 1265 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 3: Was times a lot about how people operate off of 1266 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 3: imagined fears, and so this has a lot to do 1267 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 3: with it. The fear of being alone and the fear 1268 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 3: of missing. 1269 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 2: And now he finally got the power that he can 1270 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 2: do it, so he'd be missing you not using that. 1271 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 2: There's a lot of like, you know, fear. 1272 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 3: I think basically again, I just need to have an 1273 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 3: advice column. 1274 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 2: You do, I would say this, Be smart about your 1275 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 2: choices and trust that you are lovable, Like maybe work 1276 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: on your social skills a little, you know, but trust 1277 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: that someone would love you. Be confident in that, and 1278 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 2: in the meantime. 1279 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 4: Love yourself exactly. 1280 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, you in the mood for a talkback. 1281 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 4: I love talkbacks. 1282 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I. 1283 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 5: Love get. 1284 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,240 Speaker 6: Elizabeth. This is oz woman in Idaho. I am wondering, 1285 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 6: how did you get Eddie Murphy on that last podcast 1286 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 6: about uh the lady who was pretending to be the 1287 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 6: singer and the uncle of Snoop Dogg. I'm just wondering, 1288 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 6: how did you do that and how much did it 1289 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 6: cost you? And did Rosie bite him? 1290 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 4: Oh? 1291 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 6: So much? Tea, so much tea, spill it, spill it. 1292 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 6: Oh and Elizabeth have a ratchet good time. 1293 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: Spirit. 1294 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 4: I will never divulge, this is true. 1295 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 2: Ask her all the time. 1296 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 4: You know she's teething, She's not necessarily biting. 1297 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, we're doing a lot of diversion tactics and 1298 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy was really good about that. He took a 1299 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 3: toy diverted. I've shared too much, too much. 1300 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for listening. 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