Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, rejoined by my trusted colleague West
Speaker 1: Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Welcome back to the show. West. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I was worried at first that maybe my pass card
Speaker 1: when I was walking back into the building wasn't gonna work,
Speaker 1: and you know, i'd be just sitting outside with all
Speaker 1: of my boxes and office supplies. But fortunately I still
Speaker 1: have a desk and obviously I still have a spot.
Speaker 1: We thank Aaron for joining you, which I thought was
Speaker 1: a pretty good episode. Yeah, it was fun. It was
Speaker 1: a good conversation. But we are certainly glad to have
Speaker 1: you back. A lot to talk about here, West, as
Speaker 1: the Packers have just finished two joint practices with the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. The preseason opener against those same Texans is
Speaker 1: coming up Thursday night at lambeau Field. But I want
Speaker 1: to start this show with some brief recollections on an
Speaker 1: all time Packers great He was back in the building
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Jordy Nelson making his retirement from the NFL
Speaker 1: official retiring as a member of the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: He didn't stand at the podium and give a speech.
Speaker 1: He just said, all right, I'll take some questions and um,
Speaker 1: but some some interesting little anecdotes that that came out
Speaker 1: from his career. Just your your memories, your recollections of
Speaker 1: number eighty seven. I want to first off mentioned I
Speaker 1: actually asked Tremon Williams about that this week, the fact
Speaker 1: that if it was kind of funny seeing Geordy have
Speaker 1: retirement pereimony, considering Jordi has never been a guy that
Speaker 1: really wants to be in the spotlight in Treman as
Speaker 1: Tremont always does, phund a phenomenal way of conceptualizing everything,
Speaker 1: where he said, you know, the one thing that he understood,
Speaker 1: Jordy understood was that even though he didn't want to
Speaker 1: be in the spotlight, the way he played on the
Speaker 1: field put him in the spotlight. And if you were
Speaker 1: going to be there, you have to be able to
Speaker 1: carry yourself in a way in which you're not only
Speaker 1: a top flight Pro Bowl receiver, but you're going to
Speaker 1: be a leader on this team. And I think, as
Speaker 1: you saw as well with guys speaking around the locker
Speaker 1: room this past week, consistency and leadership or the two
Speaker 1: you know, kind of buzzwords when it comes to Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson from a play style perspective, I haven't covered the
Speaker 1: NFL for a long time. Mike, uh, you know. I
Speaker 1: know there's been great receivers that have come before Jordy Nelson.
Speaker 1: They'll be create receivers that come after Jordy Nelson. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anyone that I've covered that's
Speaker 1: made my jaw drop as much as Nelson did with
Speaker 1: his play. And when I was asking some players in
Speaker 1: the locker room this past week, you know, when they
Speaker 1: think of Jordy Nelson, what did what comes to mind
Speaker 1: so many of them, as I think even Jordy did
Speaker 1: mention that play in San Francisco. The sports science sideline
Speaker 1: catches the things that he could do that went above
Speaker 1: and beyond what a receiver should be able to do.
Speaker 1: Maybe not biologically, but that sort of telekinesis that he
Speaker 1: had with Aaron Rodgers to be in the right place
Speaker 1: at the right time, and then, by the way, when
Speaker 1: you're in the right place at the right time, making
Speaker 1: an out of this world catch. When I think of
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson and ten fifteen years go by, those will
Speaker 1: be the memories that come to mind. First. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and to me, it definitely is the connection, the chemistry,
Speaker 1: the camaraderie every yeah, with Aaron Rodgers. As I've mentioned,
Speaker 1: I think before, on the show a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: Rogers and Nelson were the cover story for the Packers
Speaker 1: year Book, and I was fortunate enough to get about
Speaker 1: a half hour sit down in a room just the
Speaker 1: three of us, had both of them together, and I've
Speaker 1: never asked so few questions west in a half hour
Speaker 1: interview because all I had to do was bring up
Speaker 1: a play, bring up a moment, and Rogers and Nelson
Speaker 1: started talking. I mean, we all know about rogers recall
Speaker 1: of details and everything like that. Jordy Nelson's not far behind,
Speaker 1: and that's part of the reason he had that connection
Speaker 1: that he had with Rogers, because he remembered everything. And
Speaker 1: I think in some ways as disappointing as it was
Speaker 1: obviously that with the great start to seventeen and Jordi
Speaker 1: had six touchdown catches in the first five games, but
Speaker 1: then Aaron Rodgers ends up breaking his collar bone and
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson's last season doesn't finish the way it started.
Speaker 1: It's fitting in some ways that his last touchdown catch
Speaker 1: as a member of the Packers, which he second all
Speaker 1: time in touchdowns, and he and Rogers as a tandem
Speaker 1: have combined for more touchdowns than anyone else in Packer's history.
Speaker 1: It was in Dallas prior to the dramatic Davante Adams
Speaker 1: last second touchdown catch, but it was on an adjustment
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage that the two of them
Speaker 1: had talked about and that they both remembered from a
Speaker 1: game in Miami in two thousand and fourteen. That this
Speaker 1: is three years later than in ten, that they connect
Speaker 1: on a touchdown in the back of the end zone
Speaker 1: in Dallas and that ends up being his last touchdown
Speaker 1: as a Packer. It almost doesn't get more fitting than that. Well,
Speaker 1: it also is something that perfectly encapsulates their relationship, their
Speaker 1: friendship and their partnership over all those years. I remember
Speaker 1: there was a story I wrote that technically was on
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers for the Game Program, which was in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen, I believe, and I have mentioned to him,
Speaker 1: and he was almost kind of taken back by it
Speaker 1: for a moment that him and Nelson at that point
Speaker 1: in time, there was no other quarterback and receiver in
Speaker 1: the NFL that had been together for as long as
Speaker 1: they had been together. And it wasn't even close. It
Speaker 1: was by like two or three years. Because one, you
Speaker 1: just don't find receivers and quarterbacks that are that good,
Speaker 1: that are able to stick around that long together kind
Speaker 1: of in that same age vicinity. Now you start to
Speaker 1: see it more where it's the Aaron Rodgers and a
Speaker 1: younger guy like Davante Adams or you know what Drew
Speaker 1: Brees has done with the litany of receivers that he's
Speaker 1: worked with over the years, and that relationship when you
Speaker 1: can get two guys playing together for ten years, the
Speaker 1: the amount of knowledge and trust that you developed with
Speaker 1: that individual. The other thing too, about Jordy Nelson that
Speaker 1: I've always found to be really insightful into the man
Speaker 1: he is. He wasn't the kind of guy that was
Speaker 1: ever going to stand at his locker and give you
Speaker 1: this ESPN breaking news first of the broadcast type quote.
Speaker 1: But he was accountable and he always carried himself in
Speaker 1: a way in which he reflected the direction you wanted
Speaker 1: the team to go. I don't think I ever left
Speaker 1: at Jordy Nelson interview, thinking, man, this team has no shot.
Speaker 1: This this you know, this thing isn't gonna get worked out.
Speaker 1: He was a consummate professional that always stressed going back,
Speaker 1: learning from your mistakes and being able to make those
Speaker 1: adjustments and move forward. And I thought the perfect example
Speaker 1: that was two thousand sixteen, one of his last big
Speaker 1: years here in Green Bay. The fact that things were
Speaker 1: going in the direction they were, people started questioning things.
Speaker 1: Rogers utters the words around the table, and we talked
Speaker 1: so much about that moment. But if you go back
Speaker 1: and look at the locker room stuff and and listen
Speaker 1: to Geordie's interviews at that time, he was saying all along,
Speaker 1: He's like, we just gotta work at this thing. We
Speaker 1: got to get it going and practice and it'll translate
Speaker 1: to the field. It's not like they just snapped their
Speaker 1: fingers in the tide of the season change. It was
Speaker 1: a mental toughness and confidence that they were gonna be
Speaker 1: able to find a way. And again with Nelson and
Speaker 1: Rogers leading that offense for all those years, it doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me at all that they end up having the
Speaker 1: success that they did. Yeah, I mean the number of
Speaker 1: memories that have flooded back into my head over the
Speaker 1: last couple of days. I mean, whether you're talking about
Speaker 1: the nine catches for a hundred and forty yards in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which could have been twelve catches for
Speaker 1: two hundred yards. Uh, the way things were going, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately Nelson had a couple of drops. But to his credit,
Speaker 1: Um just kept battling in that game, filling in for
Speaker 1: Donald Driver, taking on a larger role in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl than the third year wide receiver at that time
Speaker 1: could have ever imagined. But with Driver leaving that game
Speaker 1: with the broken ankle. I remember two thousand fourteen, he
Speaker 1: beats derrel Rievas of the Patriots on the slant and
Speaker 1: then just outruns him all the way across the field
Speaker 1: of the pylon for a touchdown. You mentioned the the
Speaker 1: tiptoe sideline thing in San Francisco, which sort of started
Speaker 1: a sequence of those throughout the course of that season
Speaker 1: in the future seasons. With his footwork on the side
Speaker 1: that an entirely different level not to jump over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to connect on the back Shuler's another
Speaker 1: thing to do with him, and Rogers were able to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I mean he has his he has
Speaker 1: his career year in two thousand fourteen, when Rogers wins
Speaker 1: his second m v P. He Um unfortunately loses the
Speaker 1: season to an a c L, then wins NFL Comeback
Speaker 1: Player of the Year honors in and finishes that season
Speaker 1: playing with a flak jacket with broken ribs in the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game against Atlanta. I could go on and on,
Speaker 1: and like I say, it's just all the memories of
Speaker 1: everything that have that have come flooding back. Hopefully I
Speaker 1: was able to capture his sentiments and some of mine
Speaker 1: as well. In the piece that's on packers dot Com
Speaker 1: right now, under the headline of Jordy Nelson reflects on
Speaker 1: his remarkable career. But um, the memories are just endless.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are. And and it was a great story.
Speaker 1: The one thing I'll leave this section on him mentioning
Speaker 1: about when he told his son they were going to
Speaker 1: move back down to Kansas. They're gonna move home to Kansas.
Speaker 1: He's like, but Green Bay is home. And when you
Speaker 1: think about it, when he played ten years there, I
Speaker 1: think Royal now is maybe eight or nine somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: Maybe his whole life was spending Green Bay, Wisconsin. So yeah,
Speaker 1: when you think of home, when you think of where
Speaker 1: you're born, that's home. So it's a special place. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna be seeing a lot more to
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson in years to come here. Yeah, hopefully for sure.
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Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen m Bay Packers a couple of
Speaker 1: joint practices with the Houston Texans in the book leading
Speaker 1: up to Thursday Nights preseason opener. What were your general thoughts,
Speaker 1: just your overall takeaways from the two days of practice
Speaker 1: with the Texans. First time the Packers have had joint
Speaker 1: practices in training camp with another team since two thousand five.
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to watch many of the
Speaker 1: offensive line and defensive line one in one drills only
Speaker 1: a little bit, actually more more on Monday than on
Speaker 1: tu Yeah, so I watched both on both days more
Speaker 1: so the Packers defensive line against the offensive line of
Speaker 1: the Texans. And this isn't to say they don't always try.
Speaker 1: I think those are very competitive drill. When you watch them,
Speaker 1: you know, good on good, but they're just seemed to
Speaker 1: be a little extra kick and energy in those when
Speaker 1: they were going up against the Texans. I sensed that too.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like the collisions were just a little
Speaker 1: bit more forceful, and it just seemed like guys were
Speaker 1: trying a little bit harder and wanting to show them
Speaker 1: to be the superior side. And the one thing that
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from it was is Rashan Gary can play.
Speaker 1: He has the he has it in him. We want
Speaker 1: to see it in some games now, but it translates.
Speaker 1: He was going up against Matt Khalil on Monday and
Speaker 1: he looked great. He won two reps there. He had
Speaker 1: to really competitive reps on Tuesday. So Darius Smith phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I think I used him as my thing on three things.
Speaker 1: Kingsley Keekley, the rookie fifth round pick. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a starter this year, but he has
Speaker 1: some twitch in him that I think is really special
Speaker 1: for a fifth round player. So I enjoyed watching that.
Speaker 1: And then obviously you can't avoid it. I mean there
Speaker 1: were there were a couple of scuffles there. Jay Sternberger
Speaker 1: took a pretty heavy hit. It's interesting when you go
Speaker 1: back and look at it. I saw somebody on Twitter
Speaker 1: brought up the video. I didn't realize this, but Jay
Speaker 1: Sternberger had a pretty good stiff arm on Lonnie Johnson
Speaker 1: last year in a college game that led to a
Speaker 1: big touchdown. Not saying that that's where that came from,
Speaker 1: but people don't forget. You never know. You never know,
Speaker 1: but that was probably my biggest takeaway was was the
Speaker 1: one on one drills and then obviously some of the extracurriculars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Unfortunately, Ja Sternberger is being evaluated for concussion now,
Speaker 1: even though he did actually come back into practice on Monday.
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis also unfortunately took a took a hit in
Speaker 1: a special teams drill. The special teams the kickoff cover
Speaker 1: and kickoff return in particular, they were going full speed
Speaker 1: aside from actually tackling the guy with the ball, and uh. Unfortunately, Davis,
Speaker 1: who as we've talked about, has had a great camp.
Speaker 1: He had a great family night. Now he's out with
Speaker 1: a stinger. Hopefully it won't keep him out long because
Speaker 1: that's a uh, that's a young man who was definitely
Speaker 1: making a really, really strong bid to be on this team.
Speaker 1: And it had nothing to do with returns. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen much in terms of returns in this camp.
Speaker 1: The reason why Trevor Davis is making headlines and get
Speaker 1: an interview in the locker room is because what he's
Speaker 1: doing as a receiver. Yeah, this is by far, it's
Speaker 1: not even close the best camp he's had in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: He looks comfortable, he's in sync with Rogers, and he's
Speaker 1: always had game breaking speed. UM, So trying to get
Speaker 1: him on the same page with Rodgers and get him
Speaker 1: in tune with this offense. If that happens, and if
Speaker 1: he can get back from this injuries, so we can
Speaker 1: see him in the preseason. I really hope fans who
Speaker 1: aren't able to get to practice are able to see
Speaker 1: that Trevor Davis in the preseason setting because he's been
Speaker 1: exceptional so far. Yeah, hopefully he'll be back sooner than later. UM.
Speaker 1: With the preseason opener Thursday night at lambeau Field, we
Speaker 1: all know these preseason games, it's not about wins and losses.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about the number of points that are
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard. It's about individual player performance, player evaluation.
Speaker 1: And this is just the start, obviously, the first of
Speaker 1: four preseason games, the most important film, frankly, that any
Speaker 1: of these players who are fighting for roster spots are
Speaker 1: going to are going to have in terms of making
Speaker 1: their impression on the coaches, on the personnel staff. Who
Speaker 1: are Who's the first guy that comes to mind for
Speaker 1: you that you're going to be watching closely on Thursday, Timo.
Speaker 1: And the main reason why someone asked an incenter in box,
Speaker 1: and it was a fair question this past week on
Speaker 1: how the backup quarterbacks have looked. My reply was they've
Speaker 1: had their moments and they've had throws they want back.
Speaker 1: All three of them have had that. I mean even
Speaker 1: to some extent. I'm sure Aaron Rodgers has had that,
Speaker 1: but we all know he'll be the starting quarterback in
Speaker 1: Week one. But the three guys vying to back up
Speaker 1: Rogers and then make a case for that number three
Speaker 1: role on the fifty three man roster, I want to
Speaker 1: see it in games now. Deshaun Kaiser has made some
Speaker 1: exceptional throws so far early on, and he's had some
Speaker 1: you know, tough moments as well. I actually think Tim Boyle,
Speaker 1: in the reps he's had with the threes, has looked good.
Speaker 1: He's making the right reads, he's he's being able to
Speaker 1: move the ball. Trying to cut down on some of
Speaker 1: the mental errors is going to be critical for him.
Speaker 1: But this is the reason I said Boyle is we
Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to see him that much
Speaker 1: last year in the preseason. If I remember, he barely
Speaker 1: played at all those last two weeks. So if he
Speaker 1: can get the chance to get out there and getting comfortable,
Speaker 1: I really want to see if he can push Kaiser
Speaker 1: for that number two job. And Manny Wilkins is entirely
Speaker 1: different than the other two. His skill set and what
Speaker 1: we've seen in camp so far. He can make throws,
Speaker 1: he has a live arm, he's athletic, he's a scram ler,
Speaker 1: but he's just not like anyone else on this roster.
Speaker 1: So I want to see how that looks in a
Speaker 1: game too. So it's probably an easy answer for me
Speaker 1: to say the quarterbacks, but after talking, you can talk
Speaker 1: six different ways from Sunday about how guys look and
Speaker 1: practice when they're throwing the football and days are gonna
Speaker 1: be good and days are gonna be bad. Let let's
Speaker 1: see what happens in a game, because with that, there's
Speaker 1: only four of them and you have to make him calm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think this is a big game. Along those
Speaker 1: same lines, the first guy that comes to mind for
Speaker 1: me is Deshaun Kaiser because based on what we have
Speaker 1: seen in practice, Deshaun Kaiser right now, if you had
Speaker 1: to pick it, he's the number two quarterback on this team.
Speaker 1: So he has to use these preseason games to solidify
Speaker 1: that um, solidify his status there and uh and continue
Speaker 1: to generate the confidence from the coaching staff and the
Speaker 1: personnel department that he can be that guy. With what
Speaker 1: he's done so far in training camp leading up to
Speaker 1: this first preseason game, you don't want to see a
Speaker 1: step backward. You don't want to see a step back
Speaker 1: from from anybody, but certainly from Kaiser, with the way
Speaker 1: his relief appearances for Aaron Rodgers last season did not
Speaker 1: go well. As you said, he has definitely made some plays.
Speaker 1: I think he's flashed the most out of all of
Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks in camp so far. Now it's got
Speaker 1: to it's got to find another level in the preseason. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And for Kaiser, he's still credibly young, but he also
Speaker 1: is in his third season. Now you want to see
Speaker 1: those strides. I think I've said before Mechanically, his size,
Speaker 1: his prototype, he has everything you look for in a quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's trying to tie it all together and mesh with
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's scheme. And he has some good receivers that
Speaker 1: are gonna be hungry to compete with him in these
Speaker 1: games as well. And you're from two to seven, it's
Speaker 1: a wide open competition. And heck, Mike, another guy that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking at two is Darius Shepherd, the
Speaker 1: former tryout receiver from North Dakota State. Right, here's a
Speaker 1: guy that's getting reps with the number one. Daris Shepherd
Speaker 1: now needs to go out there and prove that he's
Speaker 1: not just Tye Tyrone Walker who's gonna go out and
Speaker 1: make some pressive catches in the preseason and then just
Speaker 1: come up short when it comes time to make the roster.
Speaker 1: He's trying to actually make a bit at this thing too.
Speaker 1: So seeing those young hunger receivers trying to make some
Speaker 1: place for these quarterbacks. Two is going to be a
Speaker 1: really interesting thing to watch. Yeah, And if there's another guy,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get too much more into
Speaker 1: the receiver's obviously we're gonna be watching them and we'll
Speaker 1: certainly talk about them after the game. But if there's
Speaker 1: another guy on offense that this is a big game
Speaker 1: and I'm certainly gonna be watching, I think it's worth
Speaker 1: fans watching for Number seventy Alex Light at offensive tackle
Speaker 1: because the Packers just waved injured Jason Spriggs, the fourth
Speaker 1: year backup offensive tackle. Alex Light is now the number
Speaker 1: three tackle on this roster behind David bok tr and
Speaker 1: Brian Bulaga. The coaching staff likes him, They like what
Speaker 1: they see, and it's about it's him doing it in
Speaker 1: the games now in you know, under the bright lights
Speaker 1: and in in the big setting. This is a huge
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to really cement his status and where
Speaker 1: he stands on this roster. And uh, he's going to
Speaker 1: be a guy to watch throughout the entire preseason. He's
Speaker 1: getting the reps too. I think you're going to see
Speaker 1: him play a lot this season, because I don't know
Speaker 1: how much we're gonna see Brian Bolagh. I mean, they
Speaker 1: obviously have a plan for Bolaga. They want to keep
Speaker 1: him healthy. He's in a good spot right now, He's
Speaker 1: had a full off season. They don't want any setbacks there.
Speaker 1: So Alex Light's gonna play a lot, and his biggest
Speaker 1: challenge here these next four weeks is going to be
Speaker 1: showing that, you know what, I deserve to be that
Speaker 1: number three guy, deserved to be the swing tackle. You
Speaker 1: don't have to start creating strange dominoes where if one
Speaker 1: of those guys goes out, well, then Billy Turner's kicking out,
Speaker 1: or you're having to put you know, Justin McCrae out there,
Speaker 1: or move Lane Taylor around. I'm your guy, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a pivotal thing for him. I like his disposition.
Speaker 1: This guy came out of nowhere last year, Mike. I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I've said this before an inbox
Speaker 1: that I don't make predictions on the roster. I honestly
Speaker 1: didn't have Alex Light making the roster. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't see him coming on, like I think James Camp
Speaker 1: and then some of these scouts saw him coming on,
Speaker 1: and that's because I don't have an eye for talent
Speaker 1: in that way. It's not anything against alex Light, but
Speaker 1: he came out at of Richmond. He was an undrafted
Speaker 1: free agent and he made his presence felt. And now
Speaker 1: he has a million dollar opportunity here to show that
Speaker 1: he belonged. Yeah, well quickly on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball before we run out of time. The guy
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching is Tony Brown, the young cornerback
Speaker 1: number twenty eight. Aaron Nageler and I talked about him
Speaker 1: on our previous show, but with Kevin King out right
Speaker 1: now with a hamstring injury, Tony Brown has been the
Speaker 1: guy with the starting nickel defense. As far as the
Speaker 1: three corners Jr. Alexander, Termont Williams, and Tony Brown is
Speaker 1: the third guy. He got some reps against DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: These last couple of days with the Houston Texans in town,
Speaker 1: we'll see how much the Texans play their starters. As
Speaker 1: we talked about, we're not sure how much the Packers
Speaker 1: are gonna play there's in this first game. But again,
Speaker 1: a guy who's done everything in training camp that you
Speaker 1: want to get to do up to this point, so
Speaker 1: now you get to where you want to see it
Speaker 1: at another level in a competitive game setting, you don't
Speaker 1: want to see any regression. You don't want to see
Speaker 1: a setback. Tony Brown, for me, is that guy on defense.
Speaker 1: And something I want to say about Brown two, I
Speaker 1: think this is the shift you've seen with the Packers
Speaker 1: cornerbacks for the last few years. Tony Brown has a
Speaker 1: lot of potential in him. This is a guy you're
Speaker 1: talking about here that was one of the top recruits
Speaker 1: in the country when he committed to Alabama. He ends
Speaker 1: up being an undrafted free agent. He's an undrafted free
Speaker 1: agent that is an incredibly intelligent human being, book smart,
Speaker 1: great football i Q. And he's really fast too. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't really line up that he ended up being
Speaker 1: a college free agent, but the Packers felt very strongly
Speaker 1: about him that when he came free during cutdowns, they
Speaker 1: put in that waiver claim. They got him on their roster.
Speaker 1: They've had a situation in previous years where you'd have
Speaker 1: guys step in at cornerback and they sort of were
Speaker 1: maxed out from a physical aspect. They weren't going to
Speaker 1: get faster. They weren't going to get taller, they weren't
Speaker 1: going to get quicker. Maybe they were smart, but there
Speaker 1: was athletic drawbacks there that just we're going to prevent
Speaker 1: them from being able to cover the elite receivers in
Speaker 1: this league. Tony Brown's measurables match up with anybody, So
Speaker 1: working with Jason Simmons, if he can get that turned
Speaker 1: around and figured out, this isn't a huge drop off.
Speaker 1: It isn't that if you don't have Kevin King or
Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander, there's just gonna be this big hole. Tony
Speaker 1: Brown has a lot of potential here and it's up
Speaker 1: to him to show it. Yeah, definitely. Oh with that,
Speaker 1: we're going to call it a wrap on this edition
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