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Speaker 1: Dang everyone, it is in the spring drinking and you

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Speaker 1: are listening to I up here with strengthen Comy, iHeart

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Speaker 1: or your network or where a podcast.

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Speaker 2: As always, I am enjoyed my my co host Chad

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Speaker 2: that how are you doing today, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm vibing, I'm rolling, I'm rocking.

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Speaker 2: Rocking and rolling. Clue, so excuse me if my voice

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Speaker 2: sounds a little muffled. The whole house caught it. We

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Speaker 2: we've been blaming a lady that was on the airplane

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Speaker 2: with us coming home from Florida. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it was her or not. But my son caught it first,

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Speaker 2: and then my husband, and then my daughter and now me,

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Speaker 2: So it does go through the whole house. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we have a show to do. So I am here.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy about it, and I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Call that dedication and mind actually was but you sound

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Speaker 3: terrible and I appreciate you keeping your obligations because this

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Speaker 3: could have been an easy punch out. Have we not

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think if it was just you and

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Speaker 2: I I would have been like, uh, can we like

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Speaker 2: do it tomorrow? Because I'm not feeling very well. But

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Speaker 2: I've been like sick the last three days, so I

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Speaker 2: was hoping I was on like the tail end of it.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's one of those things where like the

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Speaker 2: body aches, I had a slate fever, I have a

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Speaker 2: So I'm taking my nuds and a lot of night

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Speaker 2: will at night to knock me out. I'll kick it eventually,

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Speaker 2: but you know, these things linger, so we have to

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Speaker 3: What day are you on?

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Speaker 2: Three? I think, okay, you know, I hope it doesn't

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Speaker 2: last much longer. I talked to my sister yesterday. She

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Speaker 2: I said week or day and she's like week and

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Speaker 2: I said, holy moly, that's a very long cold. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Usually after a couple of days, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm off this weekend. So we're filming on a Thursday

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Speaker 2: today and I'm off this weekend, so I could just

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Speaker 3: You got to get these out of your system because

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Speaker 3: you got a busy March ahead of you.

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Speaker 2: I have a very busy March coming up, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: I need to be healthy. So that's a couple of

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Speaker 2: for the big shoes. We can go over them later.

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Speaker 3: When the groundhog saw his shadow, I think that meant

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Speaker 3: that it meant six more weeks until Francine has all

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Speaker 3: those bookings lined up.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's actually a couple of weeks from now,

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Speaker 2: I believe, so starting with March eighth weekend for me.

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Speaker 2: But like I said, we can go over that later on.

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Speaker 2: We could start plugging stuff. Well what's new in your world? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, you know it's uh, it's been It's been a

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Speaker 3: fun week. I can't complain, you know. Okay, the weather's

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Speaker 2: You didn't get snow, we got sleep.

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Speaker 3: We got well. So all right, it was about I

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Speaker 2: Well, we got about two to three inches, I would say.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, you know, coming up on some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so really quickly we're going to do a live

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Speaker 2: stream on YouTube. If you go to ecwdva Frean Scene,

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Speaker 2: February nineteenth. What time seven or eight?

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Speaker 3: That would be eight o'clock. But technically this is going

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Speaker 2: Oh shoot, I think about Monday for some reason.

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Speaker 3: In my last night, we had an amazing birthday live

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Speaker 3: for you on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, if you missed it, you can go watch

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Speaker 2: the replay. How about that? You can go watch the

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Speaker 2: replay and leave a comment and wish me a happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a great one.

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Speaker 3: Oh we laughed, we cried, we blew out birthday.

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Speaker 2: Candles, we did it all.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe who jumped out of the cake.

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Speaker 2: You won't believe Tiki Monday. In my head, I.

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Speaker 3: Totally keep that flu head. It's the flu head, you know,

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Speaker 2: So, I guess it's all the Nike while I've been

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Speaker 2: drinking anyway, It's like you blink and it's there.

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Speaker 3: I know stop knew you all the way back in

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Speaker 2: I can't a long, long time ago. I can't even

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Speaker 2: I keep looking to like when I was twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: just starting in wrestling, and how young I was, and

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Speaker 2: people keep posting these pictures and I'm and now I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm gonna be fifty two. Unbelievable. But

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to still be alive and to be here

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Speaker 2: and to be doing this and to contribute to the

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Speaker 2: bit every week. I'm grateful for it. So it's a

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Speaker 2: good life.

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Speaker 3: It's a very nice way to put it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't complain, you know I can, but and

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Speaker 2: I do. I don't want to hear too much.

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Speaker 3: I know I was gonna say, I'll have time for that.

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Speaker 2: Now we don't have to talk that. We have guests

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the iHeart airwaves are for complaining there now now

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Speaker 3: they aren't. But all right, and here we go joining

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Speaker 3: us now here on eyes up here. Very very happy

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Speaker 3: to have him. I'm reuniting you guys. Twenty five years later, writer, producer, director,

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Speaker 3: the man who I have to say he changed the

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Speaker 3: way fans see the wrestling business. Behind the scenes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: mister Barry Blaustein, I Barry Now are.

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Speaker 2: You I'm doing well?

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Speaker 4: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: What do you?

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Speaker 4: It's been so long, I know it's been since.

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Speaker 2: What year nineteen ninety seven? Did you?

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Speaker 4: I filmed in nineteen ninety seven, right, but it came out.

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Speaker 2: In the ninety nine nine, right, And I you know,

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Speaker 2: it's the twenty five year Anniverse this year, and that's

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Speaker 2: and and talk a little bit about the differences in

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Speaker 2: the locker rooms. But first of all, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm fine, You're fine?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Are you keeping busy?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've been became a college professor, like ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: College. What do you? What do you? What do you do?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: You know I wrote two movies during COVID I did

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Speaker 2: never showed anybody. They're in a book. Maybe one day

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Speaker 3: But what do I get? What do I get to

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Absolutely? Nothing? Better? Something? The first thing that I

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Speaker 2: Since I've watched it, and I need to sit down

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Speaker 2: and now it's dead. Nobody practices it. With social media,

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like that back then. Well, the first thing

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Speaker 2: I noticed is that Ron Howard was involved in this.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he He and Brian Grazer, who who had

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Speaker 2: Okay, see, I had no idea until like when I

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Speaker 4: Ron lived in Connecticut. Next to our neighbor was was

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll get into him, and we've got some Vince

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Speaker 2: how the boys took to you. What, in your opinion,

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Speaker 2: what were the differences in the ECW locker room compared

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Speaker 2: Did you experience any I don't want to use the

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Speaker 2: good word. What did you experience that from any of

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Speaker 2: the wrestlers And what was the difference between our locker

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Speaker 4: Well, there was some who were really ejected to me

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Speaker 4: being there, Like Boo was very much against me being there.

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Speaker 4: Years later I ran into him and an autographed thing

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Speaker 4: and he just walked by me and he said, good film.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot coming from him.

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Speaker 4: So, okay, WWE was a little more open. The rest

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Speaker 4: there was seemed to be one locker room where at

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Speaker 4: I respected, and the other locker room they were fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the one locker room that didn't want to

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Speaker 2: room you're saying was the w w F crew. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I do remember. You know, there were times when I

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Speaker 2: felt so bad for you. We would be going out

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Speaker 2: because it was a pay per view and we're going

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Speaker 2: over matches and stuff. You could just feel Barry's presence

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Speaker 2: over you, and I knew what you were doing. Honestly, God,

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Speaker 2: I knew what you were doing. But like I know,

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Speaker 2: I was just like, oh my god, I feel so

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Speaker 4: Well once through a garbage, oh my god, it's not

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Speaker 4: Oh well, thanks to Paul opened up to me as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what happens is I'm friendly with Barry Bloom managers

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Speaker 4: Right, I want to know it was interestingly effected that

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 4: No, No, you're you know. I made the movie for

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Speaker 2: What product are you watching nowadays? Are you watching both

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Speaker 2: For the better. Okay, So what were your dealings with

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Speaker 2: Oh and did you see those traits? Did you see

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Speaker 4: Didn't see it. I saw it in business dealings with him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, because you've heard about the scandal these days, correct, Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to go, uh back to Vince

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Speaker 4: Did I got to shut up this.

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Speaker 4: Well, I knew anyone who runs a business is uh,

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Speaker 4: I think most of the interview footage from ninety seven

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Speaker 2: You have to you have to be involved. Yeah, what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, you got you gotta go see these

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Speaker 2: Did you actually attend?

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Speaker 4: I tended like four shows?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what did you think, because I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 4: It was great. I thought the fans were great, and

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Speaker 4: rest of it, which is fantastic. Right my favorite place

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Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Great. I like to hear that. I'm glad you weren't

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was. I was there the night

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Speaker 2: Oh that that was no. We just did a was

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00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: it a YouTube?

439
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: Well, it was a part of We did a whole

440
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: episode about angles that hold up and angles that don't,

441
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: and one of them that don't was the crucifixion.

442
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: In my opinion, that was the worst thing that has

443
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: ever been done in wrestling. That's in my opinion. I

444
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: hated that so much and as soon as it was done,

445
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: I ran up the Paul and I like screamed in

446
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: his face. I just I it appalled. I was appalled.

447
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: It sickened me. I you know, I don't like religion

448
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: being brought into anything, whether it's something I believe in

449
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: or not. I just thought it was really really poor taste.

450
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: And that was the first time I ever saw people

451
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: walk out of the arena and want their money back.

452
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: Well, some one came out and made an apology.

453
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Raven did, and Paul had to force him to do

454
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: that because he didn't want to do it. Yes, and

455
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: we lost the deal with Kurt because of that. Kurt

456
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: was supposed to work for us, and when he saw that,

457
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: he left. So I think that was good that that

458
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: happened for Kurt's career because obviously look at him now.

459
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: But you know, when I think back to things that,

460
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: I am so glad I was not a part of that.

461
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: One is like first on my list because I would

462
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: have told them absolutely not, I wouldn't. Did it just

463
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: sickened me. I didn't like it. But I'm sorry you

464
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: had to be there for that debacle because yeah, right,

465
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: that was that was just that was terrible. But other

466
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: than that, I mean, I had a ball, We did

467
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: some crazy angles.

468
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 4: We're all crazy angles, crazy angles. Yeah, well it's called extremes.

469
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: It's true. It's true. Would you ever make it beyond

470
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: the mat too?

471
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 4: I don't think so, okay, because I covered everything I

472
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: wanted to in the first one, right, and I want

473
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 4: to rip wrestling fans off, like just putting something together

474
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: and go here's too right.

475
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Is there any chance, because it's the twenty fifth year anniversary,

476
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: would you be able to re release it in theaters

477
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: or something like that.

478
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 4: That's a universal call, universal films call.

479
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have nothing to do with that. You

480
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: should request that because I think it would do well.

481
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: I really, you know, I think it would do well

482
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: if it was like a one night, one night only, but.

483
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: You would have to do it in like all the cities.

484
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: You couldn't just do it in like New York and

485
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: LA because a lot of people wouldn't be able to

486
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: get to it right. But I think that would be

487
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: so cool to be able to say it on the

488
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: big screen like one more time, you know what I mean,

489
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: because it was groundbreaking. I'm not just kissing your ass

490
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: right now. It was so incredibly different for the time

491
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: that we were in and you did it. You, like

492
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 2: I said, broke You broke that fourth wall and you

493
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: let people into a business that was so closed off

494
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: and people always wondered what is going on? What happens

495
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: when they're you know, going over their matches, and what

496
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: does the back look like and the wrestlers traveling together,

497
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: and who's friends with who? You got to step foot

498
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: into our world and that was extremely rare and you

499
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: did that. So you should be really proud because look

500
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: at all the week all of the shows that have come.

501
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: You spawned so many reality shows that have to do

502
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: with wrestling. You did it.

503
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: First, and there's difference between the reality and film shows.

504
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: In my film, I.

505
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: Think, well, there is but you set the tone for it.

506
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: You brought people into a world that they're not supposed

507
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: to be into, and then it just evolved with the times,

508
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like back then, that

509
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: had never happened before, and it was so extraordinary and

510
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: so out of the box. And you know, as a

511
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: wrestling fan myself, seeing something like that was mind blowing

512
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: because you did not see that anywhere else. So I

513
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: mean kudos to you.

514
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vince mcmanon Gorilla Position and the Royal Rumble, you know,

515
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: Paul on the steps of the ECW Arena, the Rock

516
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: going over his promo that he's about to go stay

517
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: in front of a live pay per view audience. I mean,

518
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: it's just like, wow.

519
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: It was brilliantly done, and it was it was so rare.

520
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: That's the one where I could think it was so

521
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: rare for that time frame and such. It's so cool

522
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: that I could say I was a part of it.

523
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: So thank you for.

524
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: Including me, Thank you for let me film you.

525
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, and uh you know, I just wish that

526
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: more people could watch it, especially in today's day and age,

527
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: Like I just wish it could be released again because

528
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: I think the younger generation seeing that would get a

529
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: kick out of it, because you know, now with Vince

530
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: buying like all every tape library there is out there,

531
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: all of our old stuff is being shown and it's

532
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: like it's new. Kids for the first time are getting

533
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: to see ECW and WCW and early WWF and you know,

534
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Shane Douglas and I do all these appearances, and ten

535
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: year olds come up to us, Oh the angle where

536
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: you and Tesz did this and you went through the

537
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: table and you did it and he's ten and I'm like,

538
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: that was thirty years ago, so they're just watching it

539
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: for the first time. So I think people would get

540
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: such a kick out of seeing if we can get

541
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: this movie trending for the twenty five years, I think

542
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: people would eat it up and they would love to

543
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: watch it again or for the first time for a

544
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: lot of people.

545
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: Having support them.

546
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get a hashtag going. We gotta

547
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: get them. Trent Barry, I'm gonna try to get you trending.

548
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: Are you on Twitter?

549
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: Are you on X I'm not on Twitter? Well any

550
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: social media.

551
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: Oh geez, well, that's gonna be kind of hard. I'm

552
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: going to try to do it on my own and

553
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: I'll see what I can figure out. I'll let you know.

554
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: But I want people to see this film because it

555
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: was so well done and it just captured the magic

556
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: that wasn't out yet.

557
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: You know, It's weird. I've written films that had made

558
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: a lot more money than Beyond the Mat did. Right,

559
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: Yet I'm asked in interviews more about Beyond the.

560
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Mat what what reason do you think that is? Well,

561
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: for what reason?

562
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: It's a cults film that's only grown in stature as

563
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: time has gone on.

564
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: Same as ECW. We were that little cult company, so

565
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: we have we have a lot in common, Barry, we

566
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: really do. Well. Is there anything that you want to plug,

567
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: anything that you're doing these days besides teaching that you

568
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: would like to plug? Since you don't have social media,

569
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: we can help you promote it.

570
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: Ate the money to the Parkson's Foundation.

571
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I currently have Parkinson's Okay. And how when were

572
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: you diagnosed?

573
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen?

574
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen? Okay, how's life been?

575
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: Well, it's been different.

576
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Obviously you're teaching with it.

577
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: I'm teaching with it.

578
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

579
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: I don't drive anymore.

580
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a big difference.

581
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: Okay, and I had an operation this past summer on

582
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: my brain where they opened it up and put in

583
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: why rewired.

584
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: Some things and yeah, does that help with the tremors?

585
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

586
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a good thing.

587
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

588
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh well brilliant. Okay, that's great. So if they want

589
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: to donate, is there a specific website they can go

590
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: to or do they just look up Parkinson's.

591
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: Or American Pompson's Association, okay, or Michael J. Fox is

592
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: an organization?

593
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: They got it? Okay, all right, Well, there you go, Barry.

594
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: This has been a pleasure.

595
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: It's been a pleasure seeing you. So what are you

596
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: what's going on with you now?

597
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm well. I got married about sixteen years ago.

598
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: I had two children, and yeah, I work, you know,

599
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: I do this and we do conventions and we do

600
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: some shows here and there. You know, life is good.

601
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: I like to stay home with my kids. But if

602
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: they want to pay me, I'll get on a plane

603
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: and go somewhere. You know, I had not been to

604
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: la in I think the last time I performed there

605
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: was like twenty eighteen.

606
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

607
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while. But if I get out there,

608
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: I'd love to see you.

609
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: That's same here yeah.

610
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll try to figure something out. Somebody booked

611
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: me in California so I could see Barry. I'm putting

612
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: it out to the universe. But Barry, you're a dolph.

613
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. And do you

614
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: have anything to add before we let him go?

615
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: Just yeah, just happy to talk to Barry again. I

616
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: got the chance to interview him, and I think twenty fifteen,

617
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 3: very comprehensive, very long. He gave us a great one,

618
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: And just happy to reconnect and do it again. It

619
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: was a pleasure to set it up and a pleasure

620
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: to talk to you, and you just again, I thank

621
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: you for helping me see what it was like to

622
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: then pursue a career in wrestling and get to do it.

623
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: So thank you very.

624
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: Much, thank you, thank you for having me on.

625
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh God, bless you, Barry. You take care of yourself.

626
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: Hope to see you soon. Okay, okay, take care. It

627
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: would be so awesome to get this movie trending. You

628
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: know what I need. Do you know how many people

629
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: have not seen it and.

630
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: Would pop death? You were right on the money. Those

631
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 3: people that never saw ecw you right now. You could

632
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: basically say I went to see CW for one night

633
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: only on the big screen.

634
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would be I wish she was

635
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: online because it would be a little easier that way.

636
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: But how do I get Universal to air this? How

637
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: do we get Universal to put this off?

638
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: You want to know something. I swear to god, I

639
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: had been looking for this.

640
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that looks.

641
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: For this f and clip for like a week, scanning

642
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: the movie, not watching it fully. And the second he

643
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: gets off, I found it.

644
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, we could have played that for him.

645
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: I would have got off.

646
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: For those of you listening, it's uh. It's my little

647
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: scene in the movie where Paul is telling me I

648
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: deserve it or I earned it.

649
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: Something it.

650
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: And I was practically in tears, like I was so

651
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: freaking nervous, so nervous, I was having stomach cramps. Like

652
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 2: it was bad. It was so bad.

653
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: Give me a meme of Paul Hyman rubbing your hair.

654
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that part and then us standing watching

655
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: him say that speech gives me chills every time.

656
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: So cool, It's so.

657
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: Great, such a memorable moment for me. It meant a

658
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: lot to me, and I'm so grateful that he put

659
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: that in the movie. But what a nice man. I'm so.

660
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's like when you meet people in this sport,

661
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: in this profession, you meet them and then years and

662
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: years go by and then you like either do a

663
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: podcast with them or you do an appearance and they're

664
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: at this appearance. I'm always like apprehensive to be like,

665
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: was I nice to you back then? Because like he said,

666
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: well Saboo was mean to me or whatever, you know,

667
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: the verbions that he and I'm always afraid somebody's gonna

668
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, well you were bitch to me back then,

669
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think I was a bitch to anyone.

670
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: Like I've always tried to be like a nice person.

671
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: So it's good to hear Barry say that I was

672
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: nice to him, because I'm always worried about that for

673
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: some reason.

674
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: Think about this, Okay, just twenty five years from this

675
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: film and what it gave us, Right. It showed us

676
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: how Vince mick Manhn created Draws right and how they

677
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: put that character together. It showed us how Paul motivated

678
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: you guys, and the how the beyond behind the scenes

679
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: of the first ECW pay per view was put together. Right.

680
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: It showed us Mick Foley and his kids, and the

681
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: emotional rollercoaster that his family went through. Watching his head

682
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: get bashed in with the steel chair in really one

683
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 3: of the biggest matches of his career. Right, Like I said,

684
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: when Barry's we saw the Rock put together a promo

685
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: backstage with a writer, then bring it to life on

686
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: the screen, you know, like we saw Jake the Snake's downfall.

687
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: All those things talked about for years, basically smoking crack

688
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: on film and being in the most dismal of dismal

689
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: independent shows in like North Dakota, pissing in a garbage can,

690
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: just the worst down on his lock, falling out with

691
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: his daughter. All those things that have been talked about

692
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: for all these years. Started Dennis stamp with the weights,

693
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 3: jumping on the trampoline, right, I'm not booked, started in

694
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: this documentary. It's incredible Terry Funk the retirement match. How

695
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: many times have we talked about it covered in this movie.

696
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: Incredible it is, and it's a shame that more people

697
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: haven't been able to see it. And that's why I

698
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: wish it would be re released. You know, I just

699
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: wish I had I had an ear at Universal, because man,

700
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: I think it would do well, I know I would

701
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: go see it. Oh, look at little Spike.

702
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: This is this club is incredible. He's talking to Spike

703
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: while his head is gaping dashed, and they keep telling

704
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: him to wipe it, and he wipes it and it

705
00:39:59,360 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: keeps blo.

706
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: He's yeah, He's like that looks like a hard way

707
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: to me. That doesn't even look like a gig.

708
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: And keeps going because it's I mean, it's this. It's

709
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: so incredible.

710
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: Look how young he looks there too. We were all

711
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: so young back then. My god, amazing. I need to

712
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: sit down and I need to watch this film again.

713
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: I think I'm always saying, oh, I need something to watch.

714
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch Yeah, maybe this weekend I'll try and

715
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: watch it again. But gosh, what what a great flick,

716
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: and it did it and inspired a whole realm of

717
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: of you know, uh, behind the scenes footage that you

718
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: were able to watch after this that you know, scripted

719
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: or nonscripted. He opened the door for that, So kudos

720
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: to him. That was awesome.

721
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 3: And then if I you know, we maybe we should

722
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: have mentioned this right as the film was about to

723
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: come out, the WWF pulled back and they tried to

724
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: get it stopped.

725
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: Did they really?

726
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: And that gave Universal the ability to throw on the

727
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: screen the documentary. The WWF doesn't want you to see

728
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: what was.

729
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: The because they not to break the fourth wall.

730
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: Right all the all the But it was because of

731
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: the fact, just what Barry said, they went from down

732
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 3: on their luck business in the toilet to this mega,

733
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: mega success that they were in ninety nine.

734
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: What made them not win?

735
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: They just didn't want to expose the what they don't know.

736
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: What what made them cave and say, okay, did they

737
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: had signed a contract or something?

738
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they released the food. Yeah, they had no ground

739
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: to stand on.

740
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Huh. Interesting, Yeah, I'm glad it was. Madew was like

741
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: take it. Yeah, we didn't care. We were like, we're

742
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: going to be in a movie. Whoo, all right, well,

743
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: let's switch gears a little. There were a couple of

744
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: things we didn't discuss last week that we kind of forgot,

745
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: I suppose. But big story, Scott the Moore kicked out

746
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: a TNA impact whatever you want to call it. I

747
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: just looked online about this because his name popped up

748
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: on my feed on Twitter, and uh, people are writing letters.

749
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: People in TNA are writing letters to management that they

750
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: want Scott the more back. Everybody's upset. What is the reason?

751
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: Do we do we know a reason? He's been very quiet.

752
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything about it. I was kind of

753
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: shocked because here's a guy that kind of resurrected the

754
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: brand in what two thousand and three. He's been with

755
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: them forever, almost forever yea. And you know, he was

756
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: the rav Ram man when the name got changed, and

757
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: here he is TNA. And that passionate speech that he

758
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: gave what caused them to pull him from that position?

759
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: Well, the rumor was that he made an offer to

760
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: purchase the company from Anthem. That yeah, that he had

761
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: a private basically a private bid and a note from

762
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: a bank that he had the credit to purchase the

763
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 3: funds to purchase TNA if it was going to ever

764
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: be for sale, and Anthem declined, and that basically then

765
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: he was gone. That's that's the rumor that I heard

766
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: through the grapevine.

767
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: Why would that make somebody fire somebody?

768
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: He just don't well, I mean, I don't know. But

769
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: then I was listening to the Jim Cornett experience, and

770
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: Jim Cornett relayed a story that back two thousand and

771
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: five two thousand and six ish during the Dixie Carter era.

772
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: He did the same thing with Dixie Carter. He tried

773
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: to buy TNA during that era, and maybe I don't

774
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: know if it was a transition to Jeff to Dixie

775
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: and it did not go over well and he was

776
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: gone again during that era. So this is like his

777
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: m O. He's got such a passion for DNA, he

778
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: wants it, and he's unceremoniously shown the door. But yeah,

779
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: I mean people backstage love him, but they do. He

780
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: tells us why we have no f and clues?

781
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: What was the offer? Do we know?

782
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: I've had to be substantial if a bank was going

783
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: to back him. Wow, But it's very People were comparing

784
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: it to when Eric Bischoff tried to buy w CW

785
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: before they sold it to WWF. But I mean, TNA

786
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: is not for sale, so that's the thing where it

787
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: doesn't make Oh.

788
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was dumbfound it. I was like, wait a minute.

789
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 2: He's been there like for yeah.

790
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: And they've got such good press right now too, So

791
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: this sucks that they've got this going on because they

792
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: they've been doing so well. So this is kind of

793
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: like a dark cloud. They don't need unbelievable.

794
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: The other story that I just read about was Maurice

795
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: uh MSUs wife she was had. Now this one scares

796
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: me because I watched a video today on YouTube and

797
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: she put out a bunch of statements about what was

798
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: going on, and everything that she describes is what I'm

799
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: going through with my stomach. Every single everything that she says.

800
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: You know, she was talking about uh, she went, uh,

801
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: she got it endoscopy. She she was seeing a g

802
00:45:52,760 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: I colonoscope. You know what else did she do? She

803
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: was getting a lot of bloating to where she looks

804
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: six months pregnant. How many times have I told you

805
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: that about? You know, it hurts when I eat. I'm

806
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: still experiencing that. I've been waiting. I got it. Finally,

807
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: I got it. Yesterday I got approved for a cat scan.

808
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: Now what she was saying is, you know, they did

809
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: cat scans ultraund nothing, nothing kept coming up. But I

810
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: think she filmed a O B G Y N. And

811
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: now she's getting a full hysterectomy because she's pre cancer.

812
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

813
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: Uh. Which that's frightening to me because you know, is

814
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: that my next step? Do I need to do this?

815
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Like I don't know. I'm kind of hoping I go

816
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: on Monday, so when this airs it'll be Tuesday. But

817
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: I go Monday. That well, the girl she was cute.

818
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: She goes, well, you don't want to come on your birthday,

819
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: do you? And I go, I want to get this

820
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: over with and she says, okay, she goes, you can

821
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: come at nine point thirty in the morning. So I said,

822
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: that's fine, but this one is with contrast so they

823
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: can see, you know, what's going on. And you got

824
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: to remember, I have that mess in my stomach too,

825
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: so do I need to remove that? Like? I don't.

826
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Reading what she wrote like it gives

827
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: me kind of a sense of, you know, I could

828
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: show my doctor this, but but here's the kicker. So

829
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: I get it done on Monday. Guess when my follow

830
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: up appointment is to discuss my results? April seventeenth.

831
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: Oh geez, So I have.

832
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: To sit here for two months in pain still because

833
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: my doctor's booked up. Now I'm assuming, if you know,

834
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: God forbids something shows up on Monday, they'll call me

835
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: in to you know, fix it or whatever. But it's like, really,

836
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: I got to sit here and suffer for another two months.

837
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous, Like, yeah, but you know, I wish

838
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: her well. And it just scared me because those are

839
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: the same exact symptoms that I have.

840
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't blame I mean that, yeah,

841
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: I saw that when your your tweet went out about that,

842
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh man, that's that's terrible that

843
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: you've you've you noticed those similarities that that's yeah, that's scary.

844
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: The worst part is you go, you go to like

845
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: seventeen different doctors and no one can find anything. It's like,

846
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: what do you do? You know, who else do you

847
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: go to? So I screenshot it everything that she had

848
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: said in the interview that she did or whatever, and

849
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: I'm going to show my doctor and see if, you know,

850
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: if it comes up that there's nothing, then I'm going

851
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: to show him and I'm going to say, listen, what's

852
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: my next step? I need to get something done? Do

853
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: I need a hysterectomy? I don't know. The only saving

854
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: grace with that is I'm done having children, So I mean,

855
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm good without it. I suppose, you know,

856
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: but uh, it's scary. It's it's scary to think, Uh,

857
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: more surgery. I don't know. I don't know, but I

858
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: wish her well. I hope, you know, whatever she gets

859
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: done solves the problem and she can get back to

860
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: normal because she's a lot younger than me, I believe, well,

861
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: she's probably forty.

862
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 3: I think she's around my age.

863
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still she younger than I am. So she

864
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: got those two little girls, she's got a lot of

865
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: life to live, so hopefully she'll be okay. Hopefully I'll

866
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: be okay. And uh, you know, you just got to

867
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: take it day by day.

868
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: So absolutely, yes, did.

869
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: You see anything else in the news. Those were the

870
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: two things I saw that.

871
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean there's you know, all the

872
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: stuff with the Rock and Cody and the bloodline and

873
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: unbelievable and can't say enough good things about the Rock,

874
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: The Rock, The Rock.

875
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the Rock doesn't get the point at the

876
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: WrestleMania sign.

877
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: Huh, all he's gotta do, Here's all he's gotta do.

878
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: We always gotta just point that eyebrow up. That's true,

879
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: all right, love, I love the Rock. Well, they say

880
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the bad the Hollywood bad guy that

881
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: he was, you know, twenty years ago, and it's just

882
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: consider yourself lucky wrestling fans because it's just the greatest heel.

883
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a good heel that is gonna

884
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: get you like where you need to go enjoy.

885
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: Will you be watching WRESMA?

886
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

887
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: Just the rock stuff?

888
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: Undecided? I mean, I don't know. I'm really I'm now

889
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: I think I'm in the class of and this WrestleMania

890
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: build up is really really like killing the spirit I've

891
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: got left. My wrestling viewing is going to be exclusive

892
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: to whatever we need to cover.

893
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just want to talk about it. You

894
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: need to view it.

895
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: I know, I know, no I said, that's what I said,

896
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: whatever we need to cover. I'm not going to sit

897
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: through forty seven hours of WrestleMania, but whatever we need

898
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: to cover is now. I think the extent of my

899
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: my wrestling viewing except for that old school. God I

900
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: love that old school I I am following a gentleman

901
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: who has found some footage that is a gold mine

902
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: of classic stuff that's not really out there, and man,

903
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: I am in heaven and that is the That's the

904
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 3: wrestling that I love. It's just old school WWF, WCW,

905
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: but it's not released stuff. It's like international viewing, you

906
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: know TV tape, like raw TV taping footage that you

907
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, was only used in the truck. Oh oh,

908
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: from a production point of view, I eat that stuff up.

909
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: Well, good for you. See, I'll be busy rustling your weekend,

910
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: so I cannot view it.

911
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah. You do what you gotta do, you

912
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: to do.

913
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's plug. Let's plug my next event.

914
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me pull him up. Hold on one second.

915
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: I just posted it today. Among it's gonna be on

916
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: March ninth.

917
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, I got it right here.

918
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: Okay, great. It is the Reunion three Cavalcade of Legends.

919
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm considered a legend. How great. There's about one hundred people.

920
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, that's that's not a cavalcade. That's

921
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: like a cruise. That's a boat full of This is an.

922
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: Army of legends. That yes, me and the Sandman and

923
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: Shane will be there as well. And I believe Todd

924
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: Gordon if he gets a.

925
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: Flight, yeah, because he's not on the doesn't have a

926
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: flight yet, although he's right there, he's right next to Saboo.

927
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: Todd is yeah, oh yeah, there he is.

928
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: I say, okay, your flu eyes might not be able

929
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: to see. It's too far.

930
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: We just appeared. So that's Sunday, March ninth. In uh.

931
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to say that.

932
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: Ohiofee Ohio cha coffee? Ohio Ohio?

933
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Saturday March ninth. If you need information, please go

934
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: to my Twitter. It's on there. I drove with Sandman

935
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: and Todd Gordon to the Wrestling Universe this past weekend

936
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: and saw so many of the boys it was great.

937
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: And got to sit with just incredible at my table.

938
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

939
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: So it was myself and PJ and then Tidd and

940
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: Sandman and then RVD Oh okay did uh yeah you

941
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: know him. We did a two to five shift and

942
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: they were so great next door, you know. Off the

943
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: top of my head, I can't remember what the guy's

944
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: pizza place was, but he provided all the food and well.

945
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: You were in New York, right, yes, let me guess

946
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: Vinnie's No.

947
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: I want to say Tony's one. I could be wrong.

948
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, but he was so

949
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: nice and so personable, and he gave us all menus

950
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: and he's like, order whatever you want and told us

951
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: what the specials were and you know, brought over the

952
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: food and so we were fed and the fans were great.

953
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: So anybody who came out, thank you for coming to

954
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: see us. I love these you know, simple you're home

955
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: that evening, like I love those paydays. They're the best.

956
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: You don't have to get on an airplane, just have

957
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: to drive get there. You're with your friends. We laughed

958
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: the whole way there, the whole way back like it

959
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: was so great. I loved it. So I did say

960
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: the Sandman before I forget when his episode of Dark

961
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: Side of the Ring comes out, he's coming on, yes,

962
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: and he said only.

963
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 3: For me, Oh thank god.

964
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: Well he will make his third appearance on our show

965
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: and he will discuss the dark side.

966
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: That is appointment viewing. I have to say they are

967
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: quite uh see woever did this Poster's got to rework

968
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 3: it because they obviously have no investment in the talent here.

969
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 3: Alberto del Rio is all but the top hit it

970
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 3: in the back.

971
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: Well he's he's not really is he doing much these days?

972
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: You gotta bring up, you gotta put Alberto in the front.

973
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, you gotta bring Alberto up. That's that's bad.

974
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: Placement by this, Like, I know there's forty seven million

975
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: people on this poster.

976
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with whom I what you.

977
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: Are dead set with baby doll right behind the Mounte.

978
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 2: The Mountain, I'm not the Mounty.

979
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: That's great, Hey, you and the Mounte. That's a great

980
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: h Canadian, A great gimmick for you, Canadian turncove with

981
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: the other red that's wonderful.

982
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: It's great. But yeah, there's a lot of people on

983
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: that show, so that should be a fun time. They

984
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: falsely advertised me for being in a match. Come and uh.

985
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: The guy bringing me in, Scott, he was like, did

986
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: you okay this? And I go, no, what is this?

987
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: Because oh it's it's it's a match. And I said,

988
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: does Shane even know he's working a match? He is

989
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: probably not, I don't know. And I was like no,

990
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: I said, uh, I'm not working at all. I'm just

991
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: signing and leaving. There's me.

992
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: What the heck? Picture is this backstage?

993
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 4: Wow?

994
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: How how is this ECW? Or is this post ECW?

995
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 3: And you're young in this picture?

996
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

997
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: Great picture?

998
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 2: What's your point?

999
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: No, I just saw it. I would saw it on

1000
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: your timeline.

1001
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: He sent it to me, so I reposted it.

1002
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, looking for it. I was looking

1003
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: for more of your dates. Oh here we go, Russell Khan.

1004
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Russell Khan. But there's three in March. Let me

1005
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: see real quick. I know I'm in uh So, that's

1006
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: the first one in Ohio. Then I go to the

1007
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: big event in New York City on Saturday, March sixteenth,

1008
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: and then March twenty second, I'll be going up to Boston,

1009
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: right Massachusetts or outside of Boston. There's a big event yep, okay,

1010
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: outside of Boston. That Friday, Shane Douglas and I will

1011
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: have a virtual with Captain's Corner. I don't know the

1012
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: time yet, but we'll we'll let you know. And then

1013
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: on March twenty third is the big autograph signing that

1014
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: I don't have the name of, but it's it's in Massachusetts.

1015
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: I have no no idea. And then after that is

1016
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: is the big wrestle Coon weekend. So yeah, I'll get

1017
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: this everything. Look go to my Twitter E C w

1018
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: D for Francine. When things come closer, I put stuff up.

1019
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure Nicholson sent me the graphics for it. Yes,

1020
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: and we'll get it going. Well.

1021
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna be mad at me that I can't remember

1022
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: it either.

1023
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't have the info. I'm sorry, but uh, Friday

1024
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: and Saturday, I'll be I'll be with him Friday and

1025
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: then on the on the floor Saturday signing with she

1026
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 2: Will and Hackey Poo. So that'll be fun.

1027
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: You guys, you guys work well together. I don't know

1028
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: if anybody ever told you know.

1029
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: Some people tell me, oh, do you know Sheane Douglas? Is?

1030
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: I go, no?

1031
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: Is he did? He? Did he ever work for East

1032
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: of you? I don't know? Blows my mind. I want

1033
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: to say, duh, so stupid?

1034
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says the same thing he said. Do you

1035
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: know how many people realize that me and Francy and

1036
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: actually work together?

1037
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I like when we're both booked at a convention,

1038
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: but it's by like different vendors, but still like, use

1039
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: your brain. They put him three aisles away from me.

1040
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Here we go. I'm going to be at

1041
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: the Wrestling Classic four h fields. Lucky thirteen Promotions is

1042
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 2: bringing me in and that's Saturday, March twenty third, at

1043
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: the South End Community Center in Springfield, Massachusetts.

1044
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: There you go, so there you go.

1045
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: So I need that graphic. Please send it to me.

1046
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: Do I have it?

1047
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: You got it? Okay, it's down the timeline. I had

1048
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: to go back a little bit.

1049
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, well we'll repost that.

1050
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 3: I'll get it to you.

1051
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Thank you to Barry Blaustein for coming on.

1052
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, go check out Beyond the Mat.

1053
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't know where you can find it.

1054
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: Well, you can purchase it on YouTube, but if you

1055
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: type it in as well, there may be another option

1056
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: that you can also click and watch.

1057
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: You didn't hear that from us.

1058
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: But you can buy it as well. I'm sure Barry

1059
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: gets a kickback.

1060
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, Chatster, where are you? What are

1061
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: you doing? Where can people find you?

1062
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: You can find me here on eyes up here every week,

1063
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: but you can also get me on Twitter, at Chat,

1064
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: E and B. You can also get me Ibexclusives dot com.

1065
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: Get my go on YouTube. There should be a new

1066
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: episode coming soon, and I'll let the Queen of Extreme

1067
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: tell you all about our YouTube channel.

1068
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: Listen, guys. As of right now, this very second, we

1069
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: are at nine nine hundred and fifty six subscribers. We

1070
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: are so close to getting to ten thousand. There are

1071
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: people that watch our content that are not subscribed. It

1072
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: is free, friends, free. It doesn't cost you a dime.

1073
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: So please click that subscribe button, ring my bell so

1074
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: you get the notifications, and we'll try to go live

1075
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: more than we have been. We've been slacking on the lives.

1076
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: We have to get ourselves in gear. Yes, but if

1077
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: you missed it, there was a live last night and

1078
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: it was fantastic.

1079
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: Blew my mind.

1080
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: My birthday. It's my birthday? Yes, really are we drinking

1081
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: on my birthday?

1082
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's your birthday. We have to have a

1083
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: cotail right.

1084
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: To pod like it's my birthday. But please go to

1085
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: ECW Diva Francine on YouTube and the search bar just

1086
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: type that in and you will find my lovely face

1087
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 2: and click that bell and subscribe and yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: that's it. So I hope you're staying safe. I hope

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Speaker 2: you were saying hell see. Most of all, I hope

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Speaker 2: you are staying extrame