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Speaker 1: Paul Calbci.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: And Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 5: You know, in Hollywood they have reboots, remakes, revivals. Not

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Speaker 5: Paul, Well, there's Batman and spider Man, Star Wars and

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Speaker 5: sure is that the Cardinals have a reboot in the remaking.

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Speaker 5: the original Coaleis Campbell. Let it hang for just a

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Speaker 5: moment as I fact check. Yes, he is a member

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Speaker 5: most definitely big edition the OG, the OCC edition of

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm really looking forward to that. Paul to sit

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Speaker 5: Paul four years he was the player host. In fact,

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Speaker 5: initial reaction, because before Kalis Campbell was signed, the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: Yes, why because I think they wanted another guy into

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Speaker 2: You've got a culture. This is how a team does things.

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Speaker 2: He's got the greatest football voice of all time? Can

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just it's such a great thing. It really is

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Speaker 5: And what's remarkable is he owns the most catches by

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Speaker 5: the place to be Cardinals Draft Party. Great lawn at

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Speaker 5: What's that old mine in advertising? But wait, there's more,

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Speaker 5: There's more, Paula, And here we are, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 5: we are most definitely putting the big into Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 5: Whenever we are joined by the big Man himself, Callaleis Campbell?

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Speaker 5: Is that or you? Ai Generated? Is that really you?

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Speaker 8: I gotta pisch myself sometimes to make sure this is real.

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Speaker 5: Is we enter year twenty five here on the Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage as a host eighty six shows, eighty six

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Speaker 8: This is meant it's meant to be. Maybe this poetic.

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Speaker 5: All right, So here's where I'm gonna start. Yeah, you're eighteen.

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Speaker 5: What keeps bringing you back to the NFL the game

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Speaker 8: I gave my heart to it. It's my first love,

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Speaker 8: I don't ever want to suck. I don't ever want

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Speaker 5: So you know what's amazing is I have a sister

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Speaker 8: Yes, very much. So now I can't give you sixty

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Speaker 10: Me, is amazing, just going out there and showcasing all

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Speaker 8: and I believe if I put the record in the

435
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Speaker 8: basketball football probably could have been pretty good, you know

436
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Speaker 8: what I mean. I know that's a big debate going on.

437
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Speaker 8: I was pretty good, and I never power into power forward. Yeah,

438
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Speaker 8: and I never really trained hard basketball. Basketball was just

439
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Speaker 8: like fun, like I never like grinded football. I grind it,

440
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Speaker 8: you know, ever since before I even played basketball, like,

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Speaker 8: I love football since I was a kid, like I remember,

442
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Speaker 8: I think, really what makes football real special is that

443
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Speaker 8: you can't do it by yourself. You need a team.

444
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Speaker 8: Everybody has to be a part of it. And I

445
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Speaker 8: grew up with five brothers, two sisters, like we were

446
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Speaker 8: always like, you know, team oriented. My dad raised this

447
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Speaker 8: to be like a tight you know, And so I

448
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Speaker 8: just love the part of the game where like you

449
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Speaker 8: can't do it by yourself, you got to be able

450
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Speaker 8: to inspire and bring people together, and that's just like

451
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Speaker 8: some kind of a beauty that you can't get any

452
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Speaker 8: other sport, you know, Like I mean, I know everything

453
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Speaker 8: is a team sport, but it's not the same, you know,

454
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Speaker 8: it's completely different. And you know, I mean I've been

455
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Speaker 8: trying to, you know, shopping on my tools and figuring

456
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Speaker 8: out how to be better each and every year. And

457
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Speaker 8: I feel like this is the best I've ever been

458
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Speaker 8: from as far as a leader. And you know, and

459
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Speaker 8: you know, Arizona Cardins will get the best version of me.

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Speaker 5: I'm guessing you're gonna be good for Paris Johnson Junior.

461
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you go against him a young tackle. And

462
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Speaker 5: I bring that up partially because you went against him

463
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Speaker 5: last year and we have the audio to prove it

464
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Speaker 5: in Miami because Ris Johnson Junior was miked up rolling.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you said I was too young?

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Speaker 4: Come on?

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Speaker 8: Oh hink, come on, Oh Jake, That's what I'm talking about.

468
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Speaker 8: Oh Jake, get your.

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Speaker 5: Hands up, Get your hands up. I'm not sure. I'm

470
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Speaker 5: not sure what that's all about. But uh, you are

471
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Speaker 5: known to have a conversation with a player or two

472
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Speaker 5: during the course of a game, are you now.

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Speaker 7: I love it.

474
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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't talk a lot of trash, but

476
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Speaker 8: I love communicating. I love when somebody has enough dog

477
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Speaker 8: in them to like, you know, stand the ground and

478
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Speaker 8: compete and talk a little trash. Now you know I

479
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Speaker 8: got the best of that at the very end.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

481
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Speaker 8: But you know I was very impressed with his ability, right,

482
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Speaker 8: you know, as a defence alignment, we have to think

483
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Speaker 8: that every sign that sucks, right, I don't give. I

484
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Speaker 8: don't I don't let the else alignment. I don't care

485
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Speaker 8: who it is. You put Joe Thomas, any of the

486
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Speaker 8: Hall of Famous back on the field, and my mind

487
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Speaker 8: saying I'm aout to dominate him. They can't block me.

488
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Speaker 8: I got that mentality like it is, you know, you know,

489
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Speaker 8: that's how it is. And so like you know, I

490
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Speaker 8: try to you know, but he has potential. You know,

491
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Speaker 8: you see his potential. He's very gifted, strong, you know, smart, tough,

492
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Speaker 8: and it has that tenacity you need, like that competitive

493
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Speaker 8: edge you need. And so you know it's gonna be

494
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Speaker 8: fine going to you know, helping him develop and going

495
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Speaker 8: to battle with him, and you know your clays.

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Speaker 2: I have to ask you this matter. Why was he

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Speaker 2: saying get your hands up. Do you have any idea?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because he had clapped me down and I was

499
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Speaker 8: trying to get my hands about the ball and I

500
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Speaker 8: couldn't get him up anything like off my hands.

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Speaker 2: So he was ripping you for that.

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Speaker 8: On that play he got me, you know. I mean

503
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Speaker 8: he was a quick throw, so it wasn't much you

504
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Speaker 8: could do. But he my hands up. That's what I thought.

505
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Speaker 8: That's exactly what I thought, get your hands.

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Speaker 2: He could play some ball.

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Speaker 8: Now he was not bad.

508
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Speaker 2: He was punching you. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Now the Cardinals didn't want me because I played fairly

510
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Speaker 8: well that game too.

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Speaker 5: Now, so well, reports said they tried to go after

512
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Speaker 5: you at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 8: It was true, right, true, Rachel.

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Speaker 5: Very interesting, so cool. And I tell you what, we

515
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Speaker 5: can't look forward man, I mean I still I've been

516
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Speaker 5: smiling ever since you signed. I mean, we look forward

517
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Speaker 5: to this so very much. Think of how Falligol he's

518
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Speaker 5: going to be for Darius Robinson Lable his brand of

519
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Speaker 5: leadership and the ability to men.

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Speaker 2: Much of professional sports is about the intangibles, about the

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Speaker 2: leadership and culture of a team, and this guy is

522
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Speaker 2: going to be bearing the standard for that for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Love you Koalis. Thank you man, so good to be

524
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Speaker 2: back there once again. Ninety three different shows you've been

525
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Speaker 2: a part of. Here the Big Red Rage presented by

526
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Speaker 2: Santan Ford in Gilbert four.

527
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Speaker 5: Years as the host man of the Big Red Rage.

528
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Speaker 5: The guy Frosty Rucker once again called a demigod. We'll

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Speaker 5: be back with more of the Big Red Rage. Right

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Speaker 5: after this.

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Speaker 4: Murray takes the shotgun stat back to throw now a

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Speaker 4: lob near side. Poor McBride in the corner makes the.

533
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Speaker 6: Catch for the touchdown.

534
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Speaker 2: Ah, that's greasy good right there for Kyler Burray.

535
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Speaker 6: And that was a tear drop a dime.

536
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Speaker 4: Murray to throw a fade right side of the end

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Speaker 4: zone on the money to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown. What

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Speaker 4: a throw by furry cats his fourth touchdown pass, tying

539
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Speaker 4: a career high.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray put it out there and Marvin Harrison Junior

541
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Speaker 2: went and got it.

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Speaker 4: Tex fits and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior

543
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Speaker 4: just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches, tying

544
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Speaker 4: it with an Kwan Bolden and Larry for most touchdown

545
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Speaker 4: catches by a rookie and team Histery Hey.

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Speaker 5: Ned I think everyone would agree. There's plenty upside in

547
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Speaker 5: the game of Marvin Harrison Junior. You're Trey McBride in there.

548
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Speaker 5: First Cardinals tight end to make a Pro Bowl since

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Speaker 5: nineteen the Hall of Famer Jackie Smith. If Kyler can

550
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Speaker 5: get back to a Pro Bowl and Marvin Harrison Junior

551
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Speaker 5: can elevate in the next level, which would put him

552
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Speaker 5: flirting with a Pro Bowl, think of where this Cardinals

553
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Speaker 5: offense can be. It is a big red rage presented

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Speaker 5: by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic Ron Wolfley. We're

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Speaker 5: both still smiling. Kaleis Campbell, Yes, oh my goodness, what

556
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Speaker 5: a dude, I mean, what an absolute gift. Talk about

557
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Speaker 5: winning the offseason. Just adding Kaleis Campbell right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and once again, because he's going to be a

559
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Speaker 2: starter ball. He's going to be a starter. He's going

560
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Speaker 2: to line up and he's going to start swinging from

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Speaker 2: play one.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen him each of the last two years.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals played Atlanta two years ago, they played Miami last year.

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Speaker 5: I did not realize he started all seventeen games each

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Speaker 5: of the last two seasons.

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Speaker 2: So he said he's missed fourteen games in his career unbelievable.

567
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Speaker 5: And now maybe the best part for Kalais is he

568
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Speaker 5: doesn't have to chase Kyler Murray around, as he talked

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Speaker 5: about with the media earlier today as well. All Right,

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Speaker 5: so look, we've talked a lot about Trey brid we

571
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Speaker 5: just did. We've talked a lot about Marvin Harrison junior,

572
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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray going into year eight. Where can he get better?

573
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Speaker 5: Where can Kyler Murray elevate his game to the next level?

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Speaker 5: Where and how?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, for me, Paully, once again, it's just throwing

577
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Speaker 2: the ball from the pocket, I think is the biggest

578
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Speaker 2: thing schematically right now that Kyler Murray could actually improve on.

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Speaker 2: It's what he needs to do when he gets outside

580
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Speaker 2: of the pocket. To me, he's very very good at

581
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Speaker 2: seeing the field, looking downfield, making a play or pulling

582
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Speaker 2: it down and actually running. But to me, when you've

583
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Speaker 2: got the kind of running back that the Arizona Cardinals

584
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Speaker 2: have with James Connor, you're attacking the line of scrimmage

585
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Speaker 2: very very much. You're putting his toes at six and

586
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Speaker 2: you're gonna line up, You're gonna put Kyler Murray under center,

587
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: and you're attacking the line of scrimmage at anytime you

588
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Speaker 2: do that, the play action that comes off of that

589
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: is so important. He needs to evolve and become a

590
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Speaker 2: better thrower from the pocket, even more than what we

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Speaker 2: saw last year. Marvin Harris Junior and Kyler Murray, that

592
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: chemistry has got to improve, it's got to get better,

593
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Speaker 2: and it's got to get better from the pocket. In PAULI,

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Speaker 2: if that happens, I'm telling you right now, mark this down.

595
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Speaker 2: If that happens, it's going to set off a chain

596
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Speaker 2: reaction that will allow the Arizona Cardinals to actually win

597
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Speaker 2: the division.

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Speaker 5: Well, that sort of team improvement was something Kyler Murray

599
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 5: and self spoke about with you and Luke on your

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Speaker 5: weekly show Arizona Sports. And here he is Kyler Murray

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Speaker 5: on the twenty twenty five Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 7: We made a lot of strides. Obviously, I know we

603
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Speaker 7: didn't end the season the way we wanted to end it.

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Speaker 7: I know we felt like we should have been in

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Speaker 7: the playoffs. I believe that we should have been in

606
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Speaker 7: the playoffs. We have to be better in certain situations,

607
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Speaker 7: and I truly believe that we will be better next

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Speaker 7: season in those situations. To be able to take that

609
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Speaker 7: next step get over the hump. In this offseason, I

610
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Speaker 7: think we're on the right path adding the new editions. Josh,

611
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Speaker 7: you got Dalvin, a lot of other guys, but you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm super excited.

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Speaker 5: There you go, Kyler Murray, who, by the way, is

614
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Speaker 5: going into year seven. Little fact check on that one.

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Speaker 5: What other takeaways did you have after visiting with the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, PAULI just how much more mature he

618
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: actually sounds when you talk to him now than when

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Speaker 2: he was younger. And that makes an awful lot of sense,

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Speaker 2: of course, right going into year seven. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: But man, I just want to clarify a little bit

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Speaker 2: more on what I was talking about Pauli, because if

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Speaker 2: Kyler can improve that chemistry with Marvin Harrison Junior and

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Speaker 2: start throwing the ball down the field and doing it better,

625
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: it's going to make the Cardinals so much better. And

626
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Speaker 2: the reason why I say this is because of James Connor,

627
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Speaker 2: because of their ability to attack the line of scrimmage

628
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Speaker 2: and then use play action to take shots down the field.

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Speaker 2: When you've got teams that are sucked up to the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and run down situation because of James

631
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Speaker 2: Connor being able to run the ball so well and

632
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Speaker 2: because of having a very physical offensive line. If they

633
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Speaker 2: can do that, if they can just improve that part

634
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Speaker 2: of it, they're going to be a much better offense.

635
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Speaker 2: And a much better offense is going to score more points,

636
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Speaker 2: and a much better offense is going to have leads

637
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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. And that means that going out

638
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Speaker 2: and getting a Delvin Tomlinson, getting a Josh Sweat, getting

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Speaker 2: Kalais Campbell and Darius Robinson in his second year, having

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Speaker 2: guys that can rush the passer when you have a

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Speaker 2: lead in the fourth quarter is going to be really

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Speaker 2: really good for your odds of winning a game.

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Speaker 5: Right to your point, Remember how Jonathan Gannon always cites

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Speaker 5: explosive jump place right, So okay, last year Cardinals were

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Speaker 5: top five in explosive run plays of both ten and

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Speaker 5: twenty yards. Top five. Know where they were an explosive

647
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Speaker 5: pass plays? Yeah, bottom third.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 5: So if you can add that, add that to your arsenal,

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Speaker 5: your repertoire as an offense, you know, you get teams

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Speaker 5: out of the shell, coverage, the two high safety all

652
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, and then if you can create some

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Speaker 5: room up front because you've got to drop guys back

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Speaker 5: and respect some of those chunk throws. Boom, here's James Connor,

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Speaker 5: who's already one of the league leaders yards from scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: And so all of a sudden, you're right, that's the

657
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Speaker 5: rising tide that lists the entire offense.

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Speaker 2: And once again, Paul, if that happens, you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: more leads. You're just gonna just by the odds of

660
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Speaker 2: being a good offense, you're gonna have more leads in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Now, all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 2: depending on how much you're up, the other team's gonna

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Speaker 2: have to throw the ball. And remember, the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 2: didn't suck buttermilk at getting to the quarterback last year

665
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Speaker 2: when they had to scheme everything.

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Speaker 5: That's a difference. They had to manufacture so many of

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Speaker 5: those sacks affecting the quarterback based on scheme. Now, if

668
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Speaker 5: it's more about the players and rushing for what does

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Speaker 5: that enable Nick Rowlis and Jonathan gan and to do

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Speaker 5: schematically behind that front.

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Speaker 2: Four that's exactly right. And again you can just line

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Speaker 2: up four guys. That's the best kind of pass rush

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Speaker 2: that you can pop possibly have if you can get

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Speaker 2: pressure on the opposing quarterback. Line up four guys and

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Speaker 2: get in the quarterback's face or get to them and

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Speaker 2: knock them down. I think they're gonna have four guys

677
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Speaker 2: right now, Pauli. And again, the rotation is gonna be

678
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Speaker 2: a work in progress. But when you think of Josh

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Speaker 2: Sweat on the outside, when you think of bj Ojelai

680
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Speaker 2: and we'll see young guy looked really promising, he's got

681
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Speaker 2: to prove it. But you think of Darius Robinson, you

682
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Speaker 2: think of Kaleis Campbell, you think of Dalvin Tomlinson, you

683
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Speaker 2: think of these those five guys specifically. Man, you're gonna

684
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Speaker 2: have a nice rotation of rushing for dropping seven and

685
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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get pressure on the opposing quarterback

686
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Speaker 2: and that's great for defensive coordinator Nick Rowlins.

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Speaker 5: No mistake that Kyler Murray cited that to both you

688
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Speaker 5: and Luke on your show. In fact, you guys got

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Speaker 5: talking about Trey McBride as you should, right, the record

690
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Speaker 5: setting tight end who just reset the tight end market,

691
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Speaker 5: and Kyler talking about how the tight end a QB's

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Speaker 5: best friend.

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Speaker 7: I've never played with a tight end like cherry. You know,

694
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Speaker 7: so they say, you know, growing up, we play quarterback

695
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Speaker 7: a tight ends, you know, the quarterback's best friend, and

696
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Speaker 7: this guy right here is the true definition of that.

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Speaker 7: You know, doesn't matter if he's covered, which most of

698
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Speaker 7: the time he's not, because he runs great routes, which

699
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Speaker 7: is you know, the minority for you know, tight ends usually.

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Speaker 7: But this dude is super athletic. He loves the game.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's just great to see his maturation because coming from

703
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Speaker 7: being a wide eyed rookie to make mistakes and having

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Speaker 7: those rookie mishaps to now being a guy who can

705
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Speaker 7: correct other guys, you know, and get us in the

706
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Speaker 7: right stuff and tell people what they're doing. You know,

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Speaker 7: it's a beautiful thing to see.

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Speaker 5: He had one hundred and eleven catches Trey McBride in

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Speaker 5: sixteen games. That's more than Larry Fitzgerald ever had in

710
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Speaker 5: the season. There were three games where he had a

711
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Speaker 5: dozen or more catches. Right now, if I'm in the

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Speaker 5: rest of the division, if I'm Mike McDonald in Seattle,

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Speaker 5: Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, I'm imploring my defensive coordinators to

714
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Speaker 5: figure something out. How do we defend Trey McBride because

715
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Speaker 5: killed us in all six division games last year.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, bully, that is going to be job one.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe not job one when you look at James

718
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Speaker 2: Connor and the way he runs the ball. But having

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Speaker 2: said that, I love the fact Kyler said wide eyed

720
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Speaker 2: right there, wide eyed. You know what's so fascinating? Running

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Speaker 2: good routes and being a good route runner takes your

722
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Speaker 2: eyes as well. Watch it, Pauly. You watch receivers when

723
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Speaker 2: they want to go right, they'll look left, do you

724
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Sure, like break it down and

725
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Speaker 2: look left. Dwight Clark was the master at running those routes.

726
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Speaker 2: Trey McBride also is really really good at making the

727
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Speaker 2: dB who's trying to actually use leverage to cover him,

728
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Speaker 2: making that dB get out of leverage and all of

729
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Speaker 2: a sudden he uses his eyes to get open and

730
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Speaker 2: run routes. He's excellent at doing it. And that's something

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Speaker 2: that is innate. You either have it or you don't.

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Speaker 2: Trey does.

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Speaker 5: And he's always had the best hands on the team.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I mean you saw that from the get go.

735
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Speaker 5: The first rookie mini camp after he was drafted fifty

736
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Speaker 5: fifth overall, you just saw easily he caught the ball

737
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Speaker 5: how naturally was as a pass catcher. So now you

738
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Speaker 5: had the other elements, and you know, it's amazing down

739
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Speaker 5: on the sideline. And I've told this anecdote before. He

740
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Speaker 5: could have twelve targets, eleven catches, and he's still seething

741
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Speaker 5: about the one catch he didn't reel in, even though

742
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Speaker 5: it wasn't even reasonably in his catch radius. That's how

743
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Speaker 5: competitive he is.

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Speaker 2: He's super competitive, and it's one of the reasons why

745
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Speaker 2: he's such a good blocker. And that drives him crazy

746
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Speaker 2: too when he's missing blocks. And fortunately, this is something

747
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Speaker 2: that I think is only going to get better with him.

748
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Speaker 2: He's got to watch his weight, but hopefully it's just

749
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Speaker 2: going to get better for him in terms of blocking.

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Speaker 5: See, there are a couple of sleepers coming in this year.

751
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Speaker 5: Isaiah Adams I think is a sleeper, especially if he

752
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Speaker 5: put on weight this Aime, I agree with that. The

753
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Speaker 5: other sleeper is tip Ryman. I think if they get

754
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Speaker 5: tip Ryman involved in the past game a little bit

755
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Speaker 5: more a little bit, we'll see, but you know, get

756
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Speaker 5: that mandatory one tight end screen per game to tip Ryman.

757
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Speaker 5: Here comes two hundred and eighty pounds who wants them

758
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Speaker 5: and get him involved a little bit more. I think

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Speaker 5: that could be That could be an effective like offspeed

760
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Speaker 5: pitch compared to a Trey McBride.

761
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, don't get me started on Tip Ryman.

762
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Speaker 2: And by the way, Tip, if you're listening, Park at

763
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Speaker 2: the Moon just saying all.

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Speaker 5: Right, here we go. Draft is coming up. And guess

765
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Speaker 5: what last year's top draft pick, number four overall, Marvin

766
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Speaker 5: Errison Junior. His jersey recently dropped. You can get it

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Speaker 5: needs have they changed? Are they still building from the

772
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Speaker 5: inside out? We'll get into all that. And what a

773
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Speaker 5: former Cardinal thinks about this draft class that is next

774
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Speaker 5: in the Big Red Rage.

775
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Speaker 4: Third to sixth?

776
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Speaker 1: What is Jackson always pass again?

777
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Speaker 9: You flicking it is deck at the funny seven yard

778
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Speaker 9: line the team Davis.

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Speaker 4: Cather, Let's got to throw Flesher Hayes's Jack Dalvin Tomlinson

780
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Speaker 4: flying through the middle of a sack to start for Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: He is sad.

782
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Speaker 1: Tomlinson in trouble down he.

783
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Speaker 3: Collins down with thomainson there and the ball came out Parks.

784
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Speaker 4: In trouble he is shacks Josh Sweat with his sack

785
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Speaker 4: and he was under pressure.

786
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Speaker 1: Again, swung down Turney nine yard line. Josh Sweat here

787
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Speaker 1: is hairs again and he.

788
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Speaker 4: Gets Watt just nowhere to go, and Josh Swett was there,

789
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Speaker 4: here's my.

790
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Speaker 1: Homes Prussia, I don't in the hill is sick. Josh

791
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Speaker 1: Sweat gets.

792
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Speaker 5: Home and he got the Lombardi nearly got the Super

793
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Speaker 5: Bowl Most Valuable Player of horror as well with two

794
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Speaker 5: and a half sacks. He was a headache. He was

795
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Speaker 5: a menace. And that Eagles defense in front was the

796
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Speaker 5: difference as they got after Patrick Mahomes. And what did

797
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Speaker 5: Josh Sweat say here on the Big Red Rage and

798
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Speaker 5: in meeting the media that the way Vic Fangio used

799
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Speaker 5: him in the Super Bowl is exactly the way Jonathan

800
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Speaker 5: Gannon used him in Philadelphia. Just go, just get off

801
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Speaker 5: the ball and go and just create havoc. So when

802
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Speaker 5: you look at the addition of Joshua here on the

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Speaker 5: Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I

804
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Speaker 5: think of a team like Denver a year ago, and

805
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Speaker 5: here's why they led the NFL in sacks with sixty three.

806
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Speaker 5: And what do they do. They broke an eight year

807
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Speaker 5: playoff drought, even with the rookie quarterback. So the Eagles

808
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Speaker 5: proved it in the Super Bowl. The Broncos proved it

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Speaker 5: go into the postseason. Guess what. It's not just about quarterback.

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Speaker 5: It's about getting to the quarterback. And if you can

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Speaker 5: do that, you can be a really successful team. And

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Speaker 5: hopefully the Cardinals elevated themselves in that department.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's one of the reasons why the edge position

814
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Speaker 2: has been elevated to the degree in which it is now. Paully,

815
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Speaker 2: there are so many any edge players that get paid

816
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Speaker 2: huge money, And how important is it that you have

817
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Speaker 2: an edge rusher at least one? Man, if you got two,

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Speaker 2: that's awesome, but give me one.

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Speaker 5: If you gave me my power poll position groups. I

820
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Speaker 5: think the Cardinals are valuing right now in the draft.

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Speaker 5: I'd have corner three, edge two because they made the

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Speaker 5: d line additions, okay, And I'd have offensive guard one.

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Speaker 2: Right now, okay.

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Speaker 5: And I bring that up because look, if all these

825
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Speaker 5: teams are building up their defensive fronts, protect thy quarterback,

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Speaker 5: and there are obviously a few really marquee names and

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Speaker 5: players in this draft. When it comes to offensive line,

828
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Speaker 5: Cardinals continue to build from the inside out. One name

829
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Speaker 5: that's been attached to the Cardinals in multiple mock drafts

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Speaker 5: Calvin Banks Junior, the All American out of Texas. I

831
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Speaker 5: like them, AQ Shipley justin Pew two guys. We definitely

832
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Speaker 5: like former Cardinal offensive linemen. Great guys, great personalities, and

833
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Speaker 5: some great analysis on the Clean Pocket Podcast. When comes

834
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Speaker 5: to Calvin Banks, I.

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Speaker 11: Think he's the most physical. I think he plays with length.

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Speaker 11: I think he can handle the bull rush. I think

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Speaker 11: he's athletic as hell. There's clips that you can find

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Speaker 11: on tape of him running, you know, Ali screens and

839
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Speaker 11: speech greens, getting out in space and decleating corners. That's

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Speaker 11: exactly what you need athletically from a tackle. He's de

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Speaker 11: cleayton D tackles. He's getting to the second level. He's

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Speaker 11: getting on them guys. When he's playing on the edge

843
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Speaker 11: against the edge rushers, good pass sets. He's never given

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Speaker 11: a soft edge.

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Speaker 5: I could easily see the Cardinals going for Calvin Banks

846
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Speaker 5: Junior out of Texas first team All Americans six five

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Speaker 5: three fifteen. And here's a big reason why. Yes, he

848
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Speaker 5: was the starting tackle, but he has the ability supposedly

849
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Speaker 5: to go inside. So let's say you used him inside

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Speaker 5: as a rookie and then Jonah Williams. Depending on what

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Speaker 5: his future is the final years his contract, maybe he's

852
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Speaker 5: your franchise right tackle going forward.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, for me, Pauli, Calvin Banks Junior, if somebody

855
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Speaker 2: said that was going to be the pick at sixteen,

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Speaker 2: I'd be fine. I'd be absolutely fine with that, because

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Speaker 2: again I'm about building the interior offensive line, and if

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Speaker 2: he could ever kick out to tackle at some point

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Speaker 2: in time, I'd be absolutely fantastic. But I think the

860
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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, once again, you can't be too physical

861
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Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage. You can't. You gotta get

862
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Speaker 2: guys who play in a very physical kind of way

863
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Speaker 2: to be physical, and Calvin Banks Junior is one of

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Speaker 2: those guys.

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Speaker 5: Do you consider offensive guard interior O line at this

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Speaker 5: point in the offseason a need or a want?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I consider it to be really the

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Speaker 2: only need for the Arizona Cardinals. I think Moni's done

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Speaker 2: a great job of going out in free agency, and

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Speaker 2: he's talked about this. It was his goal. But going

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Speaker 2: out there and patching some holes in free agency, of course,

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Speaker 2: and doing it with an awful lot of money, I

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Speaker 2: might add, And then of course, you know, I would

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Speaker 2: like to see them go with an interior offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: in the first round. Now, listen, there are some people

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Speaker 2: out there talking about a scenario where Tyler Booker, somebody

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Speaker 2: you know, I really love, Tyler Booker, might drop out

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Speaker 2: of the second round. Well, I say this right here.

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Speaker 2: The only thing better than getting Tyler Booker in the

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Speaker 2: first round is getting him in the second round. And

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Speaker 2: if you're going to tell me that they can get

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Speaker 2: him in the second round, and maybe you take Matthew Golden,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, a wide receiver from Texas. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: take him at sixteen. And if you're gonna tell me

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Speaker 2: that Tyler Booker is going to be there at forty seven,

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Speaker 2: which I will believe when I see it, yeah, I'd

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Speaker 2: be okay with that because the one thing that I

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Speaker 2: do think would really help this offense is a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver who can hurt you downfield, who's running a four

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Speaker 2: to nine.

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Speaker 5: That's really interesting because there have been a number of

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Speaker 5: mock drafts that have had at least three different receivers

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Speaker 5: going to the Cardinals at number sixteen overall, and going

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Speaker 5: into this process, I never would have thought receiver in

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Speaker 5: round one, but there have been some visits as well,

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Speaker 5: and there's a lot of unknowns in this draft. Where

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Speaker 5: is shder Sanders going? Yeah, where is someone like James

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Speaker 5: Pierce Junior going? Where is Shamar Stewart going with all

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Speaker 5: that potential and little production? Tyler Booker, I mean still

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Speaker 5: mock drafts have him gone ten or thirteen to the

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Speaker 5: Bears and Dolphins, or or mel Kiper to your point,

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Speaker 5: has him gone to the Cardinals at forty seventh over

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Speaker 5: It is amazing this draft this year. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what the war room's all about, but the mock drafts

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Speaker 5: have certain players all over the first round and into

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Speaker 5: the second and so based on what the Cardinals do,

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Speaker 5: I'll throw out a name. How about Josh Simmons, the

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Speaker 5: stud offensive line for Ohio State had his season cut

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Speaker 5: short by a pateeller tendon injury. But guess what your

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Speaker 5: offensive line coach used to be Ohio State's O line

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Speaker 5: coach Justin Fry.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it's going to be interesting to see because

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Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, at least from some of the guys I've

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Speaker 2: talked to, might not have the dog mentality. That has

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Speaker 2: been a bit of a knock against Josh Simmons. Now again,

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Speaker 2: he's got all the athletic ability you could ever want.

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Speaker 2: He's an excellent offensive lineman. But is he going to

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Speaker 2: have that dog mentality? Do you want that? That has

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Speaker 2: been the question. And again these are just objections that

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing up that I have heard, PAULI.

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Speaker 5: You also have NFL dot Com their latest mock draft,

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Speaker 5: Kenneth Grant going to the Cardinals at sixteen, the d

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Speaker 5: tackle big guy. Okay, I'd be okay, And you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. Look, LJ. Colli are on a one

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Speaker 5: year in deal, Justin Jones baall Nichols after this season,

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Speaker 5: you could easily part ways in terms of the business side.

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Speaker 5: So if the Cardinals go defensive lineman at sixteen still

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Speaker 5: with all the additions, man, it could make sense.

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Speaker 2: It's it could.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, I think many loves this because

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Speaker 5: there's at least a half dozen different positions that have

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Speaker 5: been named in mock drafts. There is no real trend

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Speaker 5: for the Cardinals and a lot of these mock drafts

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Speaker 5: and we'll see what happens Draft Night two weeks from

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Speaker 5: tonight for Koalascampbell and Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvic Special

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