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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, Casey Valiers along. Rick Saratella is our

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Speaker 1: guest now talking NFL and NFL Draft. He's an analyst

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Speaker 1: for NFL Draft, Bible, and Sports Illustrated, among the many

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Speaker 1: other things you got going on. Man, you're a busy

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Speaker 1: for you. Buckle up. Yeah, all right, home base. As

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Speaker 1: so welcome to town. Are you glad that the combine

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