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Please play responsibly on behalf of boothill Casinoman 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.520 Resorting Kansas twenty one and over age varies by jurisdiction 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.520 Voyd and Ontario. Bonus bets expire one hundred and sixty 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.360 eight hours after issuans. See DKG dot co slash bball 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.520 for eligibility and depositive restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:24.959 What's up, everybody? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.520 Welcome back to the Draymond green Shaw is an honor 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.560 to have this next guest an NBA champion, And so 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.640 I've been hiding this hand because I have my twenty 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.640 twenty two championship, bring on. And the reason I have 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.880 my twenty twenty two championship, bring on is because the 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.440 only thing that I have over this guy that I 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.480 could kind of throw on his faces. I won a 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.920 championship more recently than he did. However, he was just 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.240 so kind to throw in my face. He and Jackson. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.000 You know, Jackson's riding a high. He's a Boston Celtics fan. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.800 Not sure if he told you that, but he's riding 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.480 a high as a Celtics fan right now, and so 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.080 he wants to throw that out in my face. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.040 It's good, Well he can take this. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.919 But also Coach Nurse, who I'm honored to have coach Nurse, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.440 NBA champion. He beat me in an NBA final, So 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.799 I'm gonna just get rid of this because it's embarrassing 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:23.600 and kind of ruined my final slave. However, like I said, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.000 as an honor to have this next guest, NBA champion, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.320 two time D League champion, coach Nick Nurse, what's going on, 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:30.880 my friend? 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.080 Hey, thanks for having me on, man, I've been looking 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.600 forward to it. I listen to you and watch you 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.040 a lot, so it's an honor to be on. So 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:37.800 thanks for having me. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:42.040 Oh man, thank you. I appreciate it. First off, I mean, 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.640 let's let's just get right into it. I think you know, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.079 I've watched some coaches come through the G League and 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.800 specific through our G League program. You've had Seth Cooper, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.240 You've had Aaron Miles come through it. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:54.400 And move on. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.200 Nick Nick Kerr right now is doing a great job there. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.520 Chris Weims on our staff, and I know your journey 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.720 went through the D League, starting with championships in the 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.800 D League. Can you talk to me about that process 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.240 and getting the reps in the D League and then 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.880 obviously getting your opportunity and becoming a head coach of 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.200 the Toronto Raptors. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:16.520 First. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.000 Yeah, so listen, you know I've spent a lot of years. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.519 I spent about twenty years coaching before I got to 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:24.679 the NBA. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.640 I was small college. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.000 I went to England of all places, for about ten 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.560 eleven years, and then finally landed in the D League. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.920 And you know, when anybody. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.800 Ever asked me about getting into coaching, I always say, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.880 get head coaching experience as fast as you can, because 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.480 that is, like you said, the reps of get in 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.560 front of people showing film, making substitutions, calling timeouts. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.040 You know, that's the real deal. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.880 No matter really, whatever level you're at, you're having to 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.320 make a lot of decisions. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.080 Absolutely, And just trace him back a little bit. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.040 Can you talk to me about the easiest head coaching 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.080 job that you had where you was an assistant for 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.120 four days and cash out on her seventy five grand 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.200 Talk to me, I'm looking for a gig like that. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.040 By the way, best best job I ever had. So 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.480 I was coaching at the Iowa Energy in the D League. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.880 Guy I played college basketball with at Northern i With 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:26.279 Greg McDermott was then the coach at Iowa State. He 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.640 offered me a job to be his associate head coach. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.680 I went up there on a Thursday. I literally got 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.040 on a plane on Friday and went to Europe to recruit. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.720 And on Sunday he called me. I was in London 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.800 getting ready to go to Greece. He called me said, hey, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.080 I'm going to Crayton and he said you want to 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.240 come with me to Creighton. And I was like, well, whoa, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.040 We're just happened here. We just we just moved up, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.320 you know, we just started this job. And I said, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.080 let me come home and think about that for a minute. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.640 I ended up going thank goodness, you know, all things 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.840 happened for a reason. I ended up going back to 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.280 the Iowa Energy after four days at Iowa State, and 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.480 that was when we won our first first D League 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.320 championship and then then then we went rolling from there 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:03.800 a little bit. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.120 That's that's incredible. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.560 When when you were in the Iowa Energy, I've been 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.599 trying to trace your path to the Raptors. When you 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.400 were with the Iowa Energy, were they the affiliate of 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.520 the Raptors at that time? 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.880 Like, what was how did you what was your path 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:18.640 to the Raptors? 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.200 No, so the path to the so I coached the 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.080 Iowa Energy. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.840 Then I went to Rio Grande Valley as the head 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:31.040 G League coach, which was the Rockets team, and literally. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:31.200 They just. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.760 They just kind of called me up out of nowhere. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.080 I think they'd seen the team play. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.839 We had. We had a couple. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.640 I think we had Glenn Rice Junior who was in 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.359 the draft. He was one of the first guys in 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.239 the in the D League that was in the draft 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.120 and a lot of people were coming to watch him 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:51.240 and and it was actually a Brian Colangelo who who 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.839 saw the team play and just said, let's let's talk 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.680 to this guy. And then they hired me as an 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.000 assistant after a little a lot of changeover in Turmoil. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.279 It was it was I came in and Dwayne Casey 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.240 hired me and all that stuff. But we made it 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.920 through that little change of management to get the start 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:08.480 in Toronto. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.680 What was it like as an assistant coach during those 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.240 years where you guys were having absolutely incredible seasons in 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.120 Toronto and then you kind of just run into a 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.680 bus out on Lebron James and the East Like, what 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.840 were those years like? Kind of ultimately hoping to get 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.960 over that hope. Did you I mean hoping to get 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.800 over that hump? Did you guys like not? I mean, 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.080 I don't want to say not believe, because I think 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.960 anytime we're in the locker room you want to believe. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.880 But did you guys really believe that that team could 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:40.880 have gotten over the hump? 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.440 And like, what was it with that squad? 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.599 Yeah? So in general it was awesome. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.960 It was awesome because we kind of I think don't 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.120 quote me on the exact numbers, but I think the year, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.680 the year before we started in Toronto was like a 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:56.880 thirty two win season. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.159 So the first year we went to forty eight and got. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.440 In the playoffs, which hadn't been in and I don't 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.080 know again ten years, maybe eleven, twelve years, and so 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.200 the buzz was like, oh my god, they're a playoff team. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.080 And then we kind of on fifty five maybe one 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.720 fifty eight, and and like you said, we'd run into 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.000 everybody was getting was getting chopped down by by Lebron 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.960 and the calves then, right, So it was super exciting, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.240 and then there was always that frustration of how can 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.200 we figure out how to beat this guy? And then 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.760 the last time around, I think we had the home 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.800 court advantage and we had to higher seed and they 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.880 hadn't really played that well that year. We thought, we 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.280 really did think we could we could get over the hump, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.280 and it was just like one of those one of 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.200 those I think Game one, Draymond, it was like we 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.360 had we had to lay up and it missed and 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.080 we had a tip in, and like, if we would 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.280 have just one of those bounce in, we win game 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:47.760 one and. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:48.720 Maybe the whole series. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.040 And that was like a crushing, like last second defeat, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.600 and and then that was that was it, and then 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.320 uh just never could get then. You know how how 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.400 tough it is to get any his teams? 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.280 Absolutely, I mean obviously we played against those guys for 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.760 four straight years, five straight years fifteen. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.520 Yeah, five straight years. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.360 And it's crazy because I was watching the NBA Finals. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.040 I was watching NBA Finals a few days ago with 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.320 Bron and we were actually sitting there talking about like 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.440 the different things when you watched the last couple of 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:30.360 finals that teams kind of get away with, Like it 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.559 was tougher to get away with then. And I don't 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.680 want to sound like one of those old ass dudes 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:39.760 who like in my day, they couldn't. But like I 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.120 feel like when we were like in the finals against 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.480 you guys against Lebron, like there was some guys that 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.560 just couldn't get on the floor. Like if you were 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.880 just a shooter, right and you couldn't put the ball 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.480 on the floor, you didn't have size could escape, Like 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.320 you couldn't. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:54.560 Get on the floor. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.200 And it's like now all of a sudden, teams aren't 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.800 capable of necessarily like taking the guy out, you know, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.079 like the guys that you knew you had to take out, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.240 who's like he's a shooter. We did it to Kyle 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.360 Korver when they were when he when he was with 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.720 the Cat. It's like, you take those guys out. Now 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.520 you don't see that as much. Do you think that's 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:20.400 actually a byproduct of the new NBA bylaws or salary 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.920 cap where you can't quite build out the teams how 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.960 you would, Because I've been seeing that and when I 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.560 look at it, I'm just like, man, like that stuff 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:30.319 never would. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.480 Have flew in the NBA Finals even four years ago. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:34.080 Yeah, I don't know. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.960 I think things change so fast and even even it 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:42.600 seems to me they change more rapidly sometimes during the 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.840 season and everything. I just think that you're always adjusting 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.840 to the style of play or the physicality that's being 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.840 allowed or not being allowed. It seems to be, you know, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.880 like all over the place at times. So I think, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.280 I think, you know, and again, I think some series 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.280 guys look great, those kind of guys you're talking about, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.720 than some series they don't do. And all of a sudden, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.800 you're like, what happened? You know those guys were those 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.520 guys were playing great last series? You know what happened 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.480 to them? And and you're right, they think I think 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.560 scouting different, different schemes, different personnel, some matchups are just 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.760 bad for certain players. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.160 Right, that is, that is one hundred percent correct. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.680 I think when you when you get further and further 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:27.360 into these playoffs, playoff runs, matchups are everything, like I think. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.800 I think this year in the playoffs showed that more 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.880 than ever. Right, Like the Lakers and the Nuggets. Lakers 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.079 probably could have won the series, like the series easily 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.959 could have been flipped, but a tough matchup for the Lakers. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.480 Denver moves on to Minnesota, they lose to Minnesota, Whereas 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.320 the Lakers probably were a better matchup than Minnesota, Right, 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.720 I think I think we're starting to see that even 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.280 more now where matchups, who you match. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.680 Up with is more important than ever. Do you feel 0:10:58.720 --> 0:10:59.080 that way. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.520 I think it's it's really important in the playoffs. And 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.079 here's the thing, here's the thing I dislike about how 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.079 I feel today about it's three to ohero, it's three 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.000 to oh, right, and it feels like it feels like 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.120 they've all been forty point blows. But that isn't true. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.560 I mean, it was a two point game with a 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.160 minute to go last night. Game two should have been 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.640 a three point game with a minute to go if 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.640 we get that layup or circumstances around that layup are 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.960 a little different. So like that's where Dallas has gotten 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.520 everybody too, and then figured out a way to beat them. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.360 And all of a sudden it's three oh, and you're like, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.560 well it's over now. Nobody's come back from three to zero. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.880 But I hope they do. I'm just like you and 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.679 everybody else. We want to see more games, right, We 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:39.199 don't want to. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.440 See over but yet absolutely definitely looking up with love 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.400 to watch more basketball. And before we get it, get 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.040 deeper into the basketball talk, because it is an honor 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.960 to have an NBA head coaching NBA champion on the 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.040 Draymond Green Show. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:54.720 Very thankful. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.480 But before we get further to the basketball talk, can 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.199 you join us celebrate the Grand Open to Carol National 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.000 Golf and Music. Can you talk to me more about 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:06.520 that August fifteen to sixteen. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.600 Can you talk to me more about your God. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.720 I appreciate that. Give me the shout out. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.760 So I'm from a little small town in Iowa, about 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.440 ten thousand people called Carol Golf Course. I grew up 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.559 on a little bit as a kid, and it was 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.360 kind of as at its end and we're just trying 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.200 to save it. So me and some guys are turning 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.439 around putting it together. Grand opening coming up in August 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.760 fifteenth and sixteenth, But mainly it's to raise Mais money 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.520 for the foundation as well. Draymond I've been once we 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.880 won that championship, thought I was given an amazing platform 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.040 to go out and raise money. Did a bunch in Toronto, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.320 and now we're doing some here in Philly, doing some 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.240 in Iowa, and just trying to pump that money back 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.320 to kids in the eras of sports, music and literacy. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:56.000 I'm a big pseudo musician. I love music. I'm a 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.480 music appreciator, that's for sure. And I like helping kids 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.360 buy them instruments, buy them lessons, get them up on stage, 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.760 anything we can do in music and in sports and 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.839 try to build their self esteem. Got people that wouldn't 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.199 normally get such good chances. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.960 You know, that's absolutely incredible. I respect that. 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:18.320 I think anytime, especially as a music fan, I too 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.240 love music, appreciate music, and I think anytime you get 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.040 the opportunity to combine those two it's always great. Like 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.040 they're so synonymous. They live, you know, music and sport. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.240 It's one in the same. I always say, every musician 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.079 want to be a basketball player. Every basketball player want 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.880 to be a rapper or musician, And that's just kind 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.480 of the way to cookie crumbles, you know. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.199 I was about ready to ask you that. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.200 I was wondering if you go through that too, Like 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.760 a lot of musician friends and they all want to talk. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.920 I'm trying to stop them from asking me basketball questions, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.200 and it just keeps on coming. It's really funny. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.160 Absolutely, it's like the interest right is through the roof. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.320 You know, this is always good. No, I think that's 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.120 great and for you all out there check that out. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.640 I actually would love to check it out, but I'll 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.559 be in France at that time. But I would love 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.560 to make a donation if I could. For all of 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.760 you out there, if you can make a donation, continue 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.360 to push this forward. And also we got to get 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.160 Drew Yoder out there, who's our head trainer. Always get 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.920 his guy crap coach. He's from Iowa and he always 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.480 give me crap because I'm from sacking Off, Michigan, and 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:24.920 so we got to get him back there. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.560 Let's do it, man's let's do it all. Anybody's welcome, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.960 especially anybody he can. He play golf a little bit. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:32.160 He actually can. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.120 And you know another thing which I absolutely love about, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.720 and he walks around the facility of talking shit to everybody. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.000 He does so absolutely that. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.280 Translates to the golf course too. We all know that, right, yea. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:44.720 That's a fact. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:53.040 That is a fat But moving forward, you guys start 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.560 the off season and all of a sudden, you know, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:15:00.880 going to twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season, get opportunity to 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.200 get Kawhi Leonard. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.800 How big was that? What was that like? Coaching him? 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.080 Obviously didn't get to coach him for sure, as long 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:09.760 as you would have. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.120 But what was it like getting. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.840 Kawhi him coming in and kind of taking the franchise 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:16.440 up a level? 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:23.320 Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know Kawhi, first of all, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:28.560 he's awesome. I loved his just competitiveness, his drive, his 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:33.720 smart everything. But but you know what he did, probably 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.640 more than anything Graymond was he just kind of rose 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.800 the level of everything, right. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.240 He just he got He just. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.200 Everybody played a little bit better, everybody believed a little 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.160 bit more, all those kind of things with his presence, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.720 and he was awesome to coach. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:50.880 I think that. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.840 My most fascinating things with him were, you know, when 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.040 I'd be in the fourth quarter and things and I'd 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.480 be like, you know, like nine minutes us to go, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.640 and I'd be like, let's go. You got to get 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.040 back in there, and he'd be like, I'm not quite 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.240 ready yet. I'd I'd be like, well, we better hustle 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.800 because there may not be may not be anything to 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.160 wait for. But you know, he knew he did about 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.160 the six minute mark, six and a half, he'd go 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.200 back in, but he knew and he just dominated. He 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.080 just made every play at both ends, every tough rebound, 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.080 like he really knew what he kind of had in. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.320 The tank and what he could provide. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.120 And I kind of I just admired that about him 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.200 because he really would go make, you know, plays at 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.320 both ends that were just you know, that's that's what 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.360 I love, guys making plays at both ends. And they 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:37.520 were just huge plays. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:42.080 You know, absolutely, absolutely, I think it's incredible. Obviously we 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.760 were on the wrong side of it. I must say 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.320 I was absolutely shocked. And you know, I know he's 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:54.040 an LA guy or San Diego, Southern Californian guy, wanted to. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.000 Get back closer to home. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.840 But that may be the only player in the NBA 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.720 that can win a championship with a team probably get 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.040 offered the entire country of Canada and leave and go 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:07.040 back to the Clippers. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.719 I can't, can you. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.280 I can't think of any other guy in the NBA 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:12.480 that would turn that down. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.480 I can't think of it ever happening either. I'm not 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.600 totally totally shocked Draymond because the very first meeting I 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.000 had with him, like he got traded to Toronto, I'm 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.920 not sure he was like, well, what happened here? How'd 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:25.600 I end up here? 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.800 And I'm meeting with him, and it was super cool. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.800 We were kind of going through some stuff on the 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.399 board and and just getting to you know, listen to 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.760 him feel about I like this or move here, these 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.560 kind of things, and it was a great conversation, and 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.560 he kind of said to me, listen, all right, all right, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.480 I'm gonna I'm gonna play to win. I'm gonna play. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.040 You know, I'm wanna play to win. I'm gonna play 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.960 to win at all. And they said, he said, I'm 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.640 gonna do it for one year. After that, he goes, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.640 I'm not sure what's gonna happen, right, but for one year, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.480 i'm gonna play. I'm gonna play one hundred percent. I'm 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.080 gonna play to win the title. And I was kind 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.280 of like, that's a pretty good deal. Let's let's start 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.960 with that, right. So I wasn't totally shocked, but I 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.000 thought after we'd kind of done it all and did 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.120 you know, all that stuff like you just said kind 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.480 of rolled out, I was sure hoping he was gonna 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.480 stay because that was a really really good team. It 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.800 really was, you know, in the end, it was a 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.240 really really well put together team and really had great chemistry. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.919 As you know you've been a part of them, and 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:19.840 those things are. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.480 Special, one thousand percent special. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.680 I think, I think for me and watching that team 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.920 come to like even when I when I look back 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.280 on that team, and I know a lot of people 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.399 said like, oh, it's a. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.960 Wild Enard just carrying these guys to the championship. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.600 And when I look back on that team, obviously Fred 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.119 van Vliet was not an All. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.920