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Speaker 3: What's up, everybody?
Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Draymond green Shaw is an honor
Speaker 5: to have this next guest an NBA champion, And so
Speaker 5: I've been hiding this hand because I have my twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two championship, bring on. And the reason I have
Speaker 5: my twenty twenty two championship, bring on is because the
Speaker 5: only thing that I have over this guy that I
Speaker 5: could kind of throw on his faces. I won a
Speaker 5: championship more recently than he did. However, he was just
Speaker 5: so kind to throw in my face. He and Jackson.
Speaker 5: You know, Jackson's riding a high. He's a Boston Celtics fan.
Speaker 5: Not sure if he told you that, but he's riding
Speaker 5: a high as a Celtics fan right now, and so
Speaker 5: he wants to throw that out in my face.
Speaker 3: It's good, Well he can take this.
Speaker 5: But also Coach Nurse, who I'm honored to have coach Nurse,
Speaker 5: NBA champion. He beat me in an NBA final, So
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just get rid of this because it's embarrassing
Speaker 5: and kind of ruined my final slave. However, like I said,
Speaker 5: as an honor to have this next guest, NBA champion,
Speaker 5: two time D League champion, coach Nick Nurse, what's going on,
Speaker 5: my friend?
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me on, man, I've been looking
Speaker 1: forward to it. I listen to you and watch you
Speaker 1: a lot, so it's an honor to be on. So
Speaker 1: thanks for having me.
Speaker 5: Oh man, thank you. I appreciate it. First off, I mean,
Speaker 5: let's let's just get right into it. I think you know,
Speaker 5: I've watched some coaches come through the G League and
Speaker 5: specific through our G League program. You've had Seth Cooper,
Speaker 5: You've had Aaron Miles come through it.
Speaker 3: And move on.
Speaker 5: Nick Nick Kerr right now is doing a great job there.
Speaker 5: Chris Weims on our staff, and I know your journey
Speaker 5: went through the D League, starting with championships in the
Speaker 5: D League. Can you talk to me about that process
Speaker 5: and getting the reps in the D League and then
Speaker 5: obviously getting your opportunity and becoming a head coach of
Speaker 5: the Toronto Raptors.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so listen, you know I've spent a lot of years.
Speaker 1: I spent about twenty years coaching before I got to
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 6: I was small college.
Speaker 1: I went to England of all places, for about ten
Speaker 1: eleven years, and then finally landed in the D League.
Speaker 6: And you know, when anybody.
Speaker 1: Ever asked me about getting into coaching, I always say,
Speaker 1: get head coaching experience as fast as you can, because
Speaker 1: that is, like you said, the reps of get in
Speaker 1: front of people showing film, making substitutions, calling timeouts.
Speaker 6: You know, that's the real deal.
Speaker 1: No matter really, whatever level you're at, you're having to
Speaker 1: make a lot of decisions.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And just trace him back a little bit.
Speaker 5: Can you talk to me about the easiest head coaching
Speaker 5: job that you had where you was an assistant for
Speaker 5: four days and cash out on her seventy five grand
Speaker 5: Talk to me, I'm looking for a gig like that.
Speaker 1: By the way, best best job I ever had. So
Speaker 1: I was coaching at the Iowa Energy in the D League.
Speaker 1: Guy I played college basketball with at Northern i With
Speaker 1: Greg McDermott was then the coach at Iowa State. He
Speaker 1: offered me a job to be his associate head coach.
Speaker 1: I went up there on a Thursday. I literally got
Speaker 1: on a plane on Friday and went to Europe to recruit.
Speaker 1: And on Sunday he called me. I was in London
Speaker 1: getting ready to go to Greece. He called me said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Crayton and he said you want to
Speaker 1: come with me to Creighton. And I was like, well, whoa,
Speaker 1: We're just happened here. We just we just moved up,
Speaker 1: you know, we just started this job. And I said,
Speaker 1: let me come home and think about that for a minute.
Speaker 1: I ended up going thank goodness, you know, all things
Speaker 1: happened for a reason. I ended up going back to
Speaker 1: the Iowa Energy after four days at Iowa State, and
Speaker 1: that was when we won our first first D League
Speaker 1: championship and then then then we went rolling from there
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's that's incredible.
Speaker 5: When when you were in the Iowa Energy, I've been
Speaker 5: trying to trace your path to the Raptors. When you
Speaker 5: were with the Iowa Energy, were they the affiliate of
Speaker 5: the Raptors at that time?
Speaker 3: Like, what was how did you what was your path
Speaker 3: to the Raptors?
Speaker 6: No, so the path to the so I coached the
Speaker 6: Iowa Energy.
Speaker 1: Then I went to Rio Grande Valley as the head
Speaker 1: G League coach, which was the Rockets team, and literally.
Speaker 3: They just.
Speaker 1: They just kind of called me up out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: I think they'd seen the team play.
Speaker 6: We had. We had a couple.
Speaker 1: I think we had Glenn Rice Junior who was in
Speaker 1: the draft. He was one of the first guys in
Speaker 1: the in the D League that was in the draft
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were coming to watch him
Speaker 1: and and it was actually a Brian Colangelo who who
Speaker 1: saw the team play and just said, let's let's talk
Speaker 1: to this guy. And then they hired me as an
Speaker 1: assistant after a little a lot of changeover in Turmoil.
Speaker 1: It was it was I came in and Dwayne Casey
Speaker 1: hired me and all that stuff. But we made it
Speaker 1: through that little change of management to get the start
Speaker 1: in Toronto.
Speaker 5: What was it like as an assistant coach during those
Speaker 5: years where you guys were having absolutely incredible seasons in
Speaker 5: Toronto and then you kind of just run into a
Speaker 5: bus out on Lebron James and the East Like, what
Speaker 5: were those years like? Kind of ultimately hoping to get
Speaker 5: over that hope. Did you I mean hoping to get
Speaker 5: over that hump? Did you guys like not? I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't want to say not believe, because I think
Speaker 5: anytime we're in the locker room you want to believe.
Speaker 5: But did you guys really believe that that team could
Speaker 5: have gotten over the hump?
Speaker 3: And like, what was it with that squad?
Speaker 6: Yeah? So in general it was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was awesome because we kind of I think don't
Speaker 1: quote me on the exact numbers, but I think the year,
Speaker 1: the year before we started in Toronto was like a
Speaker 1: thirty two win season.
Speaker 6: So the first year we went to forty eight and got.
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, which hadn't been in and I don't
Speaker 1: know again ten years, maybe eleven, twelve years, and so
Speaker 1: the buzz was like, oh my god, they're a playoff team.
Speaker 1: And then we kind of on fifty five maybe one
Speaker 1: fifty eight, and and like you said, we'd run into
Speaker 1: everybody was getting was getting chopped down by by Lebron
Speaker 1: and the calves then, right, So it was super exciting,
Speaker 1: and then there was always that frustration of how can
Speaker 1: we figure out how to beat this guy? And then
Speaker 1: the last time around, I think we had the home
Speaker 1: court advantage and we had to higher seed and they
Speaker 1: hadn't really played that well that year. We thought, we
Speaker 1: really did think we could we could get over the hump,
Speaker 1: and it was just like one of those one of
Speaker 1: those I think Game one, Draymond, it was like we
Speaker 1: had we had to lay up and it missed and
Speaker 1: we had a tip in, and like, if we would
Speaker 1: have just one of those bounce in, we win game
Speaker 1: one and.
Speaker 6: Maybe the whole series.
Speaker 1: And that was like a crushing, like last second defeat,
Speaker 1: and and then that was that was it, and then
Speaker 1: uh just never could get then. You know how how
Speaker 1: tough it is to get any his teams?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean obviously we played against those guys for
Speaker 5: four straight years, five straight years fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, five straight years.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy because I was watching the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5: I was watching NBA Finals a few days ago with
Speaker 5: Bron and we were actually sitting there talking about like
Speaker 5: the different things when you watched the last couple of
Speaker 5: finals that teams kind of get away with, Like it
Speaker 5: was tougher to get away with then. And I don't
Speaker 5: want to sound like one of those old ass dudes
Speaker 5: who like in my day, they couldn't. But like I
Speaker 5: feel like when we were like in the finals against
Speaker 5: you guys against Lebron, like there was some guys that
Speaker 5: just couldn't get on the floor. Like if you were
Speaker 5: just a shooter, right and you couldn't put the ball
Speaker 5: on the floor, you didn't have size could escape, Like
Speaker 5: you couldn't.
Speaker 3: Get on the floor.
Speaker 5: And it's like now all of a sudden, teams aren't
Speaker 5: capable of necessarily like taking the guy out, you know,
Speaker 5: like the guys that you knew you had to take out,
Speaker 5: who's like he's a shooter. We did it to Kyle
Speaker 5: Korver when they were when he when he was with
Speaker 5: the Cat. It's like, you take those guys out. Now
Speaker 5: you don't see that as much. Do you think that's
Speaker 5: actually a byproduct of the new NBA bylaws or salary
Speaker 5: cap where you can't quite build out the teams how
Speaker 5: you would, Because I've been seeing that and when I
Speaker 5: look at it, I'm just like, man, like that stuff
Speaker 5: never would.
Speaker 3: Have flew in the NBA Finals even four years ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think things change so fast and even even it
Speaker 1: seems to me they change more rapidly sometimes during the
Speaker 1: season and everything. I just think that you're always adjusting
Speaker 1: to the style of play or the physicality that's being
Speaker 1: allowed or not being allowed. It seems to be, you know,
Speaker 1: like all over the place at times. So I think,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, and again, I think some series
Speaker 1: guys look great, those kind of guys you're talking about,
Speaker 1: than some series they don't do. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're like, what happened? You know those guys were those
Speaker 1: guys were playing great last series? You know what happened
Speaker 1: to them? And and you're right, they think I think
Speaker 1: scouting different, different schemes, different personnel, some matchups are just
Speaker 1: bad for certain players.
Speaker 3: Right, that is, that is one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 5: I think when you when you get further and further
Speaker 5: into these playoffs, playoff runs, matchups are everything, like I think.
Speaker 5: I think this year in the playoffs showed that more
Speaker 5: than ever. Right, Like the Lakers and the Nuggets. Lakers
Speaker 5: probably could have won the series, like the series easily
Speaker 5: could have been flipped, but a tough matchup for the Lakers.
Speaker 5: Denver moves on to Minnesota, they lose to Minnesota, Whereas
Speaker 5: the Lakers probably were a better matchup than Minnesota, Right,
Speaker 5: I think I think we're starting to see that even
Speaker 5: more now where matchups, who you match.
Speaker 3: Up with is more important than ever. Do you feel
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's really important in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the thing I dislike about how
Speaker 1: I feel today about it's three to ohero, it's three
Speaker 1: to oh, right, and it feels like it feels like
Speaker 1: they've all been forty point blows. But that isn't true.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a two point game with a
Speaker 1: minute to go last night. Game two should have been
Speaker 1: a three point game with a minute to go if
Speaker 1: we get that layup or circumstances around that layup are
Speaker 1: a little different. So like that's where Dallas has gotten
Speaker 1: everybody too, and then figured out a way to beat them.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden it's three oh, and you're like,
Speaker 1: well it's over now. Nobody's come back from three to zero.
Speaker 1: But I hope they do. I'm just like you and
Speaker 1: everybody else. We want to see more games, right, We
Speaker 1: don't want to.
Speaker 5: See over but yet absolutely definitely looking up with love
Speaker 5: to watch more basketball. And before we get it, get
Speaker 5: deeper into the basketball talk, because it is an honor
Speaker 5: to have an NBA head coaching NBA champion on the
Speaker 5: Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 3: Very thankful.
Speaker 5: But before we get further to the basketball talk, can
Speaker 5: you join us celebrate the Grand Open to Carol National
Speaker 5: Golf and Music. Can you talk to me more about
Speaker 5: that August fifteen to sixteen.
Speaker 3: Can you talk to me more about your God.
Speaker 6: I appreciate that. Give me the shout out.
Speaker 1: So I'm from a little small town in Iowa, about
Speaker 1: ten thousand people called Carol Golf Course. I grew up
Speaker 1: on a little bit as a kid, and it was
Speaker 1: kind of as at its end and we're just trying
Speaker 1: to save it. So me and some guys are turning
Speaker 1: around putting it together. Grand opening coming up in August
Speaker 1: fifteenth and sixteenth, But mainly it's to raise Mais money
Speaker 1: for the foundation as well. Draymond I've been once we
Speaker 1: won that championship, thought I was given an amazing platform
Speaker 1: to go out and raise money. Did a bunch in Toronto,
Speaker 1: and now we're doing some here in Philly, doing some
Speaker 1: in Iowa, and just trying to pump that money back
Speaker 1: to kids in the eras of sports, music and literacy.
Speaker 1: I'm a big pseudo musician. I love music. I'm a
Speaker 1: music appreciator, that's for sure. And I like helping kids
Speaker 1: buy them instruments, buy them lessons, get them up on stage,
Speaker 1: anything we can do in music and in sports and
Speaker 1: try to build their self esteem. Got people that wouldn't
Speaker 1: normally get such good chances.
Speaker 3: You know, that's absolutely incredible. I respect that.
Speaker 5: I think anytime, especially as a music fan, I too
Speaker 5: love music, appreciate music, and I think anytime you get
Speaker 5: the opportunity to combine those two it's always great. Like
Speaker 5: they're so synonymous. They live, you know, music and sport.
Speaker 5: It's one in the same. I always say, every musician
Speaker 5: want to be a basketball player. Every basketball player want
Speaker 5: to be a rapper or musician, And that's just kind
Speaker 5: of the way to cookie crumbles, you know.
Speaker 6: I was about ready to ask you that.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you go through that too, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of musician friends and they all want to talk.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to stop them from asking me basketball questions,
Speaker 1: and it just keeps on coming. It's really funny.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's like the interest right is through the roof.
Speaker 5: You know, this is always good. No, I think that's
Speaker 5: great and for you all out there check that out.
Speaker 5: I actually would love to check it out, but I'll
Speaker 5: be in France at that time. But I would love
Speaker 5: to make a donation if I could. For all of
Speaker 5: you out there, if you can make a donation, continue
Speaker 5: to push this forward. And also we got to get
Speaker 5: Drew Yoder out there, who's our head trainer. Always get
Speaker 5: his guy crap coach. He's from Iowa and he always
Speaker 5: give me crap because I'm from sacking Off, Michigan, and
Speaker 5: so we got to get him back there.
Speaker 1: Let's do it, man's let's do it all. Anybody's welcome,
Speaker 1: especially anybody he can. He play golf a little bit.
Speaker 3: He actually can.
Speaker 5: And you know another thing which I absolutely love about,
Speaker 5: and he walks around the facility of talking shit to everybody.
Speaker 3: He does so absolutely that.
Speaker 6: Translates to the golf course too. We all know that, right, yea.
Speaker 3: That's a fact.
Speaker 5: That is a fat But moving forward, you guys start
Speaker 5: the off season and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 5: going to twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season, get opportunity to
Speaker 5: get Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3: How big was that? What was that like? Coaching him?
Speaker 5: Obviously didn't get to coach him for sure, as long
Speaker 5: as you would have.
Speaker 3: But what was it like getting.
Speaker 5: Kawhi him coming in and kind of taking the franchise
Speaker 5: up a level?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know Kawhi, first of all,
Speaker 1: he's awesome. I loved his just competitiveness, his drive, his
Speaker 1: smart everything. But but you know what he did, probably
Speaker 1: more than anything Graymond was he just kind of rose
Speaker 1: the level of everything, right.
Speaker 6: He just he got He just.
Speaker 1: Everybody played a little bit better, everybody believed a little
Speaker 1: bit more, all those kind of things with his presence,
Speaker 1: and he was awesome to coach.
Speaker 6: I think that.
Speaker 1: My most fascinating things with him were, you know, when
Speaker 1: I'd be in the fourth quarter and things and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, you know, like nine minutes us to go,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, let's go. You got to get
Speaker 1: back in there, and he'd be like, I'm not quite
Speaker 1: ready yet. I'd I'd be like, well, we better hustle
Speaker 1: because there may not be may not be anything to
Speaker 1: wait for. But you know, he knew he did about
Speaker 1: the six minute mark, six and a half, he'd go
Speaker 1: back in, but he knew and he just dominated. He
Speaker 1: just made every play at both ends, every tough rebound,
Speaker 1: like he really knew what he kind of had in.
Speaker 6: The tank and what he could provide.
Speaker 1: And I kind of I just admired that about him
Speaker 1: because he really would go make, you know, plays at
Speaker 1: both ends that were just you know, that's that's what
Speaker 1: I love, guys making plays at both ends. And they
Speaker 1: were just huge plays.
Speaker 5: You know, absolutely, absolutely, I think it's incredible. Obviously we
Speaker 5: were on the wrong side of it. I must say
Speaker 5: I was absolutely shocked. And you know, I know he's
Speaker 5: an LA guy or San Diego, Southern Californian guy, wanted to.
Speaker 3: Get back closer to home.
Speaker 5: But that may be the only player in the NBA
Speaker 5: that can win a championship with a team probably get
Speaker 5: offered the entire country of Canada and leave and go
Speaker 5: back to the Clippers.
Speaker 3: I can't, can you.
Speaker 5: I can't think of any other guy in the NBA
Speaker 5: that would turn that down.
Speaker 1: I can't think of it ever happening either. I'm not
Speaker 1: totally totally shocked Draymond because the very first meeting I
Speaker 1: had with him, like he got traded to Toronto, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure he was like, well, what happened here? How'd
Speaker 1: I end up here?
Speaker 6: And I'm meeting with him, and it was super cool.
Speaker 1: We were kind of going through some stuff on the
Speaker 1: board and and just getting to you know, listen to
Speaker 1: him feel about I like this or move here, these
Speaker 1: kind of things, and it was a great conversation, and
Speaker 1: he kind of said to me, listen, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna play to win. I'm gonna play.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm wanna play to win. I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: to win at all. And they said, he said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it for one year. After that, he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's gonna happen, right, but for one year,
Speaker 1: i'm gonna play. I'm gonna play one hundred percent. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play to win the title. And I was kind
Speaker 1: of like, that's a pretty good deal. Let's let's start
Speaker 1: with that, right. So I wasn't totally shocked, but I
Speaker 1: thought after we'd kind of done it all and did
Speaker 1: you know, all that stuff like you just said kind
Speaker 1: of rolled out, I was sure hoping he was gonna
Speaker 1: stay because that was a really really good team. It
Speaker 1: really was, you know, in the end, it was a
Speaker 1: really really well put together team and really had great chemistry.
Speaker 1: As you know you've been a part of them, and
Speaker 1: those things are.
Speaker 3: Special, one thousand percent special.
Speaker 5: I think, I think for me and watching that team
Speaker 5: come to like even when I when I look back
Speaker 5: on that team, and I know a lot of people
Speaker 5: said like, oh, it's a.
Speaker 3: Wild Enard just carrying these guys to the championship.
Speaker 5: And when I look back on that team, obviously Fred
Speaker 5: van Vliet was not an All.
Speaker 3: Star yet became an All Star there.
Speaker 5: Pascal Siakam hadn't really become an All Star yet became
Speaker 5: a two time All Star.
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5: I think Pascal made first team All NBA at one
Speaker 5: point this year, a second team I mean throughout those years,
Speaker 5: Kyle Laurie, Danny Green, Serge Ibaka, Marc Gasol, Like I
Speaker 5: feel like those are the championship teams that I remember, right,
Speaker 5: Like you go down to listen.
Speaker 3: This boom boom boom boom, Like what was it like
Speaker 3: coaching that team?
Speaker 5: I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think you guys
Speaker 5: had was Garrett Temple on your bench at that point?
Speaker 3: No, we had normal we had no norma pow.
Speaker 1: Yeah we had o g was was got hurt right
Speaker 1: before the playoffs, so he was on that team. Uh
Speaker 1: that was yeah, you're right, I mean, what.
Speaker 6: Was it like coaching him?
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I mean, I think we knew we
Speaker 1: had a chance from day one. You know, you go
Speaker 1: to training camp and you're looking around, You're going, holy shit,
Speaker 1: this is like we're good man like they were really
Speaker 1: good like and kind of the cool thing about it
Speaker 1: was we didn't really nobody else really was talking too
Speaker 1: much about us, you know what I mean, like kind
Speaker 1: of stayed under the radar, and and it wasn't like
Speaker 1: even when the playoffs started. I think I went back,
Speaker 1: I went back one time and looked, and I think
Speaker 1: I think one out of like sixteen reporters picked the Raptors,
Speaker 1: you know, like nobody was talking about us. So and
Speaker 1: the unique thing that I that I thought, and you've
Speaker 1: probably been through this, maybe not, but I just couldn't
Speaker 1: believe how much better we got from playoff game number one,
Speaker 1: you know, and against Orlando in the first round to
Speaker 1: two months later by the time, by the time you know,
Speaker 1: we saw you guys. I just can't believe we just
Speaker 1: kept improving, improving, improving, And that's that's also really special
Speaker 1: and really fun to be a part of absolutely.
Speaker 5: You know, obviously our teams before were a little different,
Speaker 5: maybe twenty fifteen, but we kind of got good earlier
Speaker 5: in that year. But twenty twenty two, I know exactly
Speaker 5: what you're talking about because that year, I'll kid you not,
Speaker 5: I'll be honest. So twenty twenty two is the first
Speaker 5: year of Miami Grand Prix F one Formula one and
Speaker 5: my friend and his family they owned the race and
Speaker 5: so they has laid it out all my friends was
Speaker 5: going and I think it was maybe May fifth, which, obviously,
Speaker 5: as you know, is like right at the end of
Speaker 5: the first round of the playoff, and he's like, are
Speaker 5: you coming to F one? Are you coming F one?
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, we fucking suck, Like I'll be there.
Speaker 5: We're losing the first round for sure, That's what I
Speaker 5: thought of, like the team we had, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3: We're losing the first round. I one like leave me
Speaker 3: locked in, I'll be there.
Speaker 5: And we start to we we played the first game
Speaker 5: of the playoffs and I called him after the game
Speaker 5: and he actually he had text me and he's like,
Speaker 5: you're full of shit, like you guys are great, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, we actually just looked better than I
Speaker 5: thought we did. But like, hold off, I'll still be
Speaker 5: there for f one, right, And we start playing and
Speaker 5: were going through and we got better, better, better and better.
Speaker 5: Then we get to Dallas Mavericks in the conference finals
Speaker 5: and it's like we didn't even feel like they had
Speaker 5: a chance.
Speaker 3: It's like like, oh, this this is money.
Speaker 5: And then we get to the finals and like you guys,
Speaker 5: everybody thought we'd lose to the Celtics. We weren't big enough.
Speaker 5: The Celtics were way too big. They were younger, they
Speaker 5: were more athletic, they were all of these things. However,
Speaker 5: and where you guys were different. They had guys that
Speaker 5: knew how like they had I mean, they didn't have
Speaker 5: guys that knew how, And we had guys that knew how.
Speaker 5: Were you guys different than twenty nineteens. Kawhi knew how?
Speaker 5: Danny Green knew how?
Speaker 3: Right like you.
Speaker 5: When you have those guys that know how, like do
Speaker 5: you feel out as a coach like, it makes a
Speaker 5: big difference. I felt like that was the ash for
Speaker 5: us in that finals against the Celtics. In the year
Speaker 5: where we got better and better and better. Like you
Speaker 5: just explained, I.
Speaker 1: Think I think a big part of that, don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think guys that haven't gone through it have any understanding. Ay, absolutely,
Speaker 1: how long it is, this full on and it is
Speaker 1: like and then and then I don't think they understand
Speaker 1: a lot of the intensity of it. Like like, man,
Speaker 1: when we were playing you guys, I can't tell you
Speaker 1: how many times I'd be like, God, damn, these guys
Speaker 1: are fucking fast, like and they just fucking keep on run,
Speaker 1: you know, like, and they don't ever get tired.
Speaker 6: And and I kept telling my team they're.
Speaker 1: Fast, but you run, you be fast too, You keep
Speaker 1: running fast too, right, So so again just the the
Speaker 1: you can't get tired, man, you can't.
Speaker 6: You can't succumb to the two month grind or the
Speaker 6: or how physical.
Speaker 1: It is or the pressure of it all. Like you
Speaker 1: just got to keep staying locked in and keep man.
Speaker 1: It's it's that's the thing. I think the guys that
Speaker 1: have been through it can impart on everybody else and
Speaker 1: help them get through some of that.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. That's crazy because I was in the
Speaker 5: I was in the meeting yesterday and I was talking
Speaker 5: to someone and he was just speaking about like, man,
Speaker 5: get to the NBA Finals and if you lose, like
Speaker 5: those guys just look so crushed. And I was telling him,
Speaker 5: I said, you know, you get into the NBA Finals
Speaker 5: and lose it, and I've done twice. It's actually the
Speaker 5: worst thing in the world. Because you play two extra
Speaker 5: months of basketball and you have absolutely nothing to show
Speaker 5: for it. You're expected to like you have the same
Speaker 5: summer that the champions have, but they get to party
Speaker 5: and get a pass and get a little longer to
Speaker 5: get in shape because you know they're coming off championship,
Speaker 5: whereas if you lose in the finals, no one remembers.
Speaker 3: Everybody like, oh, you.
Speaker 5: Should come into the next season and tip top shape,
Speaker 5: all these things, Like it's a totally different mindset. But
Speaker 5: what I was telling him is, I said, as much
Speaker 5: as you are, as much.
Speaker 3: As you are.
Speaker 5: Like disappointed and hurt that you lost, what really happens
Speaker 5: is you go through the NBA Finals to your point,
Speaker 5: and by the time you get to the end of it,
Speaker 5: your mind doesn't allow you to process how tired you are.
Speaker 5: Your mind doesn't allow you to process the exhaustion. But
Speaker 5: the moment, it's just like everything's just wiped out of you,
Speaker 5: like it is a grind like no other. To your point,
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone really understands that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest difference is this though, right like when
Speaker 1: you went your phone rings a lot. When you're don't,
Speaker 1: the phone stops ringing, that the whole the whole pace
Speaker 1: of everything comes to.
Speaker 6: A screeching halt.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what at least quite interesting. After a season
Speaker 1: that you don't win, it is, things get quite really quick, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's And you're like, I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it was over, and I swear to god, I
Speaker 1: just got home and I was back in this you know, like, man,
Speaker 1: that was like two weeks, you know, three weeks later
Speaker 1: you're back in.
Speaker 6: Getting ready for next season, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know you were just trying to recover, recover
Speaker 1: like crazy if you're a player, right, get your body
Speaker 1: right and just just try to heal up.
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, because you come out of those things beat up.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Coach, I got to ask you, who's the
Speaker 3: great raptor of all time? Kyle Lowry? I agree, I agree.
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable what Kyle was able to do going to Toronto,
Speaker 5: kind of finding his foot, and I think what Kyle
Speaker 5: got to Toronto and like you're seven or eight or
Speaker 5: something like that, had never been an All star, finds
Speaker 5: his footing. Can you talk to me about love low
Speaker 5: by the way, as you know, had the opportunity to
Speaker 5: win a go medal with him.
Speaker 6: Appreciate that, by the way, thank you for that.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Like, can you talk to me about just what
Speaker 5: Kyle Lowry brought to the Raptors organization?
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think I got there right at that
Speaker 1: kind of start of that he was. He was just
Speaker 1: kind of a part time starter. This would have been
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, I think, so a while ago. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know, he just he just his competitive fire. He's
Speaker 1: one of those guys, you know, I throw him in.
Speaker 1: I throw him in the same bucket as you that
Speaker 1: that they just can't help themselves when it's time to compete,
Speaker 1: Like there's no way they're not competing at something like
Speaker 1: something's gonna turn on and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 6: It's just so deeply ingrained in him.
Speaker 1: I think he brought that I never seen I mean again,
Speaker 1: the comparisons to right, Like I never seen a guy
Speaker 1: like in a flurry of four minutes like do so much,
Speaker 1: you know, like bang bang a shot, you know, come
Speaker 1: down to get charge, come down, you know, knock somebody
Speaker 1: overlay it in come steal one.
Speaker 7: Like it's just like this whirlwind of winning, you know,
Speaker 7: like a whirl wind of winning in like ninety seconds
Speaker 7: or something, right, and I just, uh, you just can't
Speaker 7: help but love.
Speaker 1: That's like, you know, I people who you know, he's
Speaker 1: number one who who you've ever seen play the hardest
Speaker 1: in your life? And for me, it's it's him, you know,
Speaker 1: like that I've coached, right, So that's it. He brought
Speaker 1: that I think he brought once he started, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: getting better, progressing, the team started winning, the success just
Speaker 1: kept expanding.
Speaker 6: On all that and and just kept riding that wave.
Speaker 6: And I think he continues to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean I think six six All Stars and two
Speaker 1: gold medals, and that's unbelievable I think for him, right,
Speaker 1: And it's just he continues to.
Speaker 3: Just do a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I mean he's like six foot tall, right, he does
Speaker 1: it all with a lot of heart and toughness.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and let's not forget NBA Champions. That's that's a
Speaker 3: big one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Man, Metal six All Stars, NBA champion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, kidding absolutely, And speaking to Kyle L coach, I
Speaker 5: got asked you you've changed something, and speaking of that
Speaker 5: NBA Finals round, I think you changed something in the
Speaker 5: NBA with a move that you made during that NBA
Speaker 5: Finals It's like something we didn't normally see an NBA
Speaker 5: game games, And I just got to ask the question
Speaker 5: because I need to know who I need to be
Speaker 5: upset at, because it absolutely crushes.
Speaker 3: You guys decided to go boxing one on us.
Speaker 5: Obviously Katie was out, and you guys go boxing one
Speaker 5: on Steph and it through the entire rhythm of our
Speaker 5: offense off And I just want to know whose fucking
Speaker 5: call was that, because no one does boxing one in
Speaker 5: the NBA, and out of nowhere you come with a
Speaker 5: boxing one in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: Whose call was that?
Speaker 6: Well, like all that.
Speaker 1: Stuff, Draymond, since we were just talking about Kyle, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna pull him into this, Like listen, I
Speaker 1: coached in a lot of funky places, right, I coached
Speaker 1: coaching Brighton, England, Ostanton, Belgium, Birmingham, England, you know you
Speaker 1: name it, uh the moy and Iowa e't at Oklahoma McCallen, Texas.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're in some of these places, you're
Speaker 1: just like, you know, this guy's all this is this.
Speaker 6: We got a let's just box one. So it isn't long.
Speaker 6: I hadn't used it before. But in saying that, I
Speaker 6: kind of grabbed Kyle.
Speaker 1: And I drew up the I said, you're gonna go here,
Speaker 1: and I put fred on, I'm going boxing one. I'm
Speaker 1: put friend nose to nose on Draymond ninety four feet
Speaker 1: and and you're going.
Speaker 6: To be in the top of the two two zone.
Speaker 6: And he goes, let's do it. So he kind of
Speaker 6: he kind of he kind of gave me the and
Speaker 6: he took it to the time out and said, we're
Speaker 6: doing this, man, watch this, you know. So you know
Speaker 6: how that goes.
Speaker 1: You need to buy in from the from the guys
Speaker 1: and uh so fifty to fifty being Kyle, maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: That's great, man.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, when we saw that bot, it's like
Speaker 5: you could have hit a shot like no one was
Speaker 5: accustomed to it. I think people have gotten a little
Speaker 5: more accustomed to it now, Like I know, we have
Speaker 5: things now to attack the boxing one, which I mean,
Speaker 5: you kind of gotta have something to attack the box
Speaker 5: and one after it cost you a championship, like the
Speaker 5: nightmare of seeing it boxing.
Speaker 3: One now you're using it now, we most definitely use it.
Speaker 5: Now I cast you a championship, you better start using
Speaker 5: it like I just like I believe. And it's like
Speaker 5: we forgot how to shoot, we forgot how to dribble,
Speaker 5: we forgot how to pass. It was unbelievable the timing
Speaker 5: of it. And I don't know to make that call.
Speaker 5: I don't think you get enough credit for it to
Speaker 5: make that call. And quite frankly, most people that'll be
Speaker 5: talking about basketball don't have a probably don't even remember
Speaker 5: you did that because they don't have a fucking clue.
Speaker 5: But to make that call in the NBA Finals, go
Speaker 5: boxing one man that took some bass, And I took
Speaker 5: my hat to you, by the way, used to wear
Speaker 5: your nick nurse hat. I'm happy to see you. It's
Speaker 5: your seventy six or hat because when you were your
Speaker 5: nick nurse hat. I just used to try to find
Speaker 5: shit to piss me off. And I'm like that coach
Speaker 5: got on the hat that says his name, like, let
Speaker 5: me just find.
Speaker 1: Something to piss me off, You ain't the only one
Speaker 1: that got bad.
Speaker 6: I just want to let you make it feel better.
Speaker 1: All that stuff from that Nick Nurse had went to
Speaker 1: the foundation, so the money was the money was channeled
Speaker 1: in a good place.
Speaker 3: All right, funny man, love it switching gears. You now
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to coach.
Speaker 5: One of the best players, best big man in our league,
Speaker 5: best best players overall. Just what's it been like now
Speaker 5: on the other side of it where a I would
Speaker 5: also love to know if you throw the shot in
Speaker 5: his face that that Kawhi hit. But what's it been
Speaker 5: like to coach Joel and bed as opposed to being
Speaker 5: on the other side.
Speaker 1: Of Well, both those guys, both him and Tyresee Draymond
Speaker 1: were I thought coaching against him was extremely difficult. And Joel,
Speaker 1: Joel has been on the end of some of that
Speaker 1: stuff we just talked about, like we used to throw.
Speaker 1: We had so many coverages for him and schemes for
Speaker 1: him because we just didn't have any art him. So
Speaker 1: but you're not just gonna say, well, we can't art
Speaker 1: him like we can somehow with four or five guys,
Speaker 1: figure out how to stop them and see if we
Speaker 1: can live with the rest, but there they were both
Speaker 1: great going against them. Now that I've been here, they're
Speaker 1: even better.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm, I'm.
Speaker 1: I thought they were really really great when I was
Speaker 1: coaching against him, and I still think they're really really great. Uh,
Speaker 1: Joelle was having the season of his life until until
Speaker 1: he got that injury. He was he was really playing
Speaker 1: great and better and all that stuff, and uh, he's awesome.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and speaking at him speaking at an injury brings
Speaker 5: me to my next question, what do you I agree
Speaker 5: Joel was playing absolutely incredible, But my question is what
Speaker 5: do you think of the sixty five game rule, Because,
Speaker 5: for instance, Joel in the midst of having the best
Speaker 5: season of his career MVP season right off coming off
Speaker 5: an MVP season, and the sixty five rule game sixty
Speaker 5: five game rule doesn't even allow him to qualify to
Speaker 5: compete for the m v P. I just wanted to
Speaker 5: know what's your thoughts on that rule. Do you agree
Speaker 5: with it?
Speaker 3: Do you like? What's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's in place to not let
Speaker 1: somebody play like half the season and still win one
Speaker 1: of the major words, right, I think that's why it's
Speaker 1: in place. I don't think that would ever happen anyway.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You you probably know more of the financial ramifications of it,
Speaker 1: because I know some of that stuff ties into max contracts,
Speaker 1: all NBA team certainly does, et cetera. But I think
Speaker 1: it's on people's minds, right, and I think it's hard.
Speaker 1: What do you What are you trying to accomplish?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Are you? Is it super important for you to to
Speaker 1: win one of those awards? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to Coach of the Year award and I
Speaker 1: certainly would much rather have a champion, But it's still
Speaker 1: pretty cool to have that Coach of the Year award. Man.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I had to coach, If I had to coach
Speaker 1: eighty of eighty two games, you know, I'd probably find
Speaker 1: a way to do it or whatever, you know, so
Speaker 1: I could be in line for that if I was
Speaker 1: lucky enough.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't I don't know if I
Speaker 6: love it or not. It's there for now.
Speaker 1: Let's see how it goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I mean, I personally, I think it sucks.
Speaker 3: I get it. I get the intentions of it.
Speaker 5: Uh, but I think, just like anything else, the unintended
Speaker 5: consequences of it.
Speaker 3: I think is wrong.
Speaker 5: You know you got you got a guy like I
Speaker 5: remember Joel getting hurt. He got hurt against us actually,
Speaker 5: and I also remember the games leading up to that,
Speaker 5: like we didn't know if he was going to play,
Speaker 5: like like what was like because he had missed a
Speaker 5: couple of games leading up to it. It didn't play
Speaker 5: in Denver, and we didn't know if he was going
Speaker 5: to play. But I also remember that he was creeping
Speaker 5: up on his game limit, and so it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: let's get out there to boom me gets hurt. And
Speaker 5: my thing is, like you just said, what are we
Speaker 5: trying to accomplish? Right? Like we can all say like, oh,
Speaker 5: like you shouldn't chase, you shouldn't chase individual wars, But
Speaker 5: the individual wars is what gets you in the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame, Like the individual wars is what gets you
Speaker 5: the max contrasts. Like you said, the individual awars is
Speaker 5: what gets you the sneaker deal.
Speaker 3: So you can't just.
Speaker 5: Say, oh, you shouldn't be chasing after that. You should
Speaker 5: only be chasing that championship. We all want the championship, right,
Speaker 5: Like I think that's that's the goal, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: Like the goal is to not have people low managing
Speaker 5: to not have people sitting out games that they could be,
Speaker 5: but like there is a reality of you play about
Speaker 5: only eighty two games, you do get hurt sometimes and
Speaker 5: to have to.
Speaker 3: Rush, like rush back out there.
Speaker 5: Tyrese Halliburton earlier this year, I thought he rushed back
Speaker 5: trying to get and he was not the same Tyrese
Speaker 5: Halliburton for the rest of the season. And so I
Speaker 5: don't know, man, I disagree. And that also, it's hard
Speaker 5: to add a rule like sixty five games to the
Speaker 5: All NBA Teams, All Defense Teams of MVP awards when
Speaker 5: that hasn't been the rule all this time, and you
Speaker 5: got people who've won awards that didn't meet that. So
Speaker 5: are you going back into history books and saying, oh,
Speaker 5: but this award really didn't meet it?
Speaker 3: Are we snatching that out?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, that's yeah. That's always tough, man, in the
Speaker 1: history part of the game, when when you change those
Speaker 1: things and looking back at had all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: think I think Draymond it is like been such tough.
Speaker 1: I would say, it seems like there's been way too
Speaker 1: many bodies missing too many games. Not just superstars superstars,
Speaker 1: the ones everybody notices, but the amount of times I
Speaker 1: would say, in the last three or four years that
Speaker 1: we've had like six seven guys out, Like, yes, that's.
Speaker 6: What's got to get that's what's got to get done better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree on how you six that,
Speaker 3: but we.
Speaker 1: Need to we need to get get healthier in general,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: And a couple couple more questions, I want to take
Speaker 5: too much of your time, but kind of kind of
Speaker 5: just staying.
Speaker 3: Along this topic.
Speaker 5: Do you think there's some truth to uh, you know,
Speaker 5: the eighty two game season, but the game being way
Speaker 5: faster now, right, Like you're probably getting up and down
Speaker 5: the court now double the amount of times that that
Speaker 5: teams were called it twenty years ago, like, and that
Speaker 5: making a difference. What's your thoughts on the eighty two
Speaker 5: game season, Like should maybe that'd be shortened a bit
Speaker 5: with the speed of the game, Like when talking about
Speaker 5: player health, player safety and all these things. Obviously we
Speaker 5: want to see Joe Ellen beat on the court, Like
Speaker 5: I didn't buy tickets to the seventy six ers to
Speaker 5: see Joell and be hurt because he was forced to
Speaker 5: play a game and not necessarily forced. But come on,
Speaker 5: he's trying to win back to back MVPs. Do you
Speaker 5: think there could be a possible adjustment in the eighty
Speaker 5: two game season.
Speaker 6: I think I would be in favor of that.
Speaker 5: Mom.
Speaker 1: I don't know how again, how it all works outistically, monetarily,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, but I certainly agree with
Speaker 1: your point. Like, here's what I would say, is you
Speaker 1: go back and say, oh, man, back in the early nineties,
Speaker 1: these guys all played eighty two games, and but but
Speaker 1: it was like they dribble down, they throw it the block,
Speaker 1: and two guys stand on and you know they there
Speaker 1: was a lot of standing around. The peace was not
Speaker 1: anywhere near what it is now. Everybody kind of can
Speaker 1: do everything now, right, everybody has to guard everybody. Everybody's
Speaker 1: got a guard on the perimeter, everybody's got a guard
Speaker 1: to three.
Speaker 6: There's a lot more transition.
Speaker 1: So I think the activity level and the and the
Speaker 1: just in general, like if the pace is twice as fast,
Speaker 1: it means we're doing twice as much probably right, so
Speaker 1: that the chances for injury and all this stuff should
Speaker 1: be twice as great.
Speaker 3: As well. Right, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: You know then sometimes and I get it right, Like
Speaker 5: everyone say, oh, you play less games, that's less money.
Speaker 5: There's ways around that, Like there's just like there's ways
Speaker 5: around anything else. We got the smartest people in the
Speaker 5: world working in the NBA. We got the best attorneys
Speaker 5: in the NBA office. Like, there's ways for people to
Speaker 5: put their heads together and figure out how you keep
Speaker 5: the money the same but maybe less than the games
Speaker 5: a little bit, because the reality is I think a
Speaker 5: few less games it was a much better product.
Speaker 3: Like a few less games you're talking about, you take.
Speaker 5: Off five or six games, that pulls back three back
Speaker 5: to backs for a team, right like, and you start
Speaker 5: pulling back all of those things when you're looking at
Speaker 5: risk injury and all of that.
Speaker 3: I think that can make a big difference.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, but in switching gears a little bit,
Speaker 5: Adam Silver said yesterday that he doesn't know if the
Speaker 5: NBA is in a place where we'll ever see a
Speaker 5: competitive All Star game anymore. And I just kind of
Speaker 5: wanted to know your thoughts on that. Do you think
Speaker 5: the All Star Game should kind of go away, maybe
Speaker 5: mix it in, like do some other things what's your
Speaker 5: thoughts on that or should players be like, you know what,
Speaker 5: it's an honor and I need to get that out there.
Speaker 3: Take it serious.
Speaker 5: When you being a coach and sitting on one side
Speaker 5: of it, you want your players to return healthy.
Speaker 3: How do you look at the All Star Game?
Speaker 1: I have really fond memories of the All Star Game
Speaker 1: very bound. First of all, the twenty twenty one I
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to be the coach of in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and I think it was the first elam.
Speaker 6: Ending one they did.
Speaker 1: Yes remember that or not, but that when that last
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes of basketball, it was like.
Speaker 6: It was Kyle Pascal and uh and they had Lebron
Speaker 6: A d. Westbrook, James Hart.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was.
Speaker 6: It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: We had Joel and Giannis, oh man, it was and
Speaker 1: they were really playing.
Speaker 6: I don't know how we can recreate that, but I'll.
Speaker 1: Never forget that fifteen minutes of basketball. But ever since then,
Speaker 1: it has been a little rough. It's hard to watch.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, the NFL one's kind of
Speaker 1: gone away. Yeah, your league baseball, they still put a
Speaker 1: little a little bit of incentive on there for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They tie it to the home team and the World
Speaker 1: Series and stuff like that. I don't know. There's just
Speaker 1: a lot of thought process going on there.
Speaker 5: I agree with one hundred percent. And you know, I
Speaker 5: kind of sat in like toy with the idea, like
Speaker 5: do you go away with it? It's such a historical
Speaker 5: thing and like, I don't know, man, I just don't know.
Speaker 5: It's so bad. Like I actually was there this past yere. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's one of the worst games I've ever seen, and
Speaker 5: I've seen like some little league games, Like it's one
Speaker 5: of the worst basketball games I've ever seen. I couldn't
Speaker 5: believe it, like I know, And there was an emphasis
Speaker 5: on it right like like everyone was talking about it.
Speaker 5: There was an emphasis. I know, Commissioner Adam met with
Speaker 5: the team. I heard Larry Bird met with the teams.
Speaker 5: Like everybody's coming in and talking about it. It's just like, oh,
Speaker 5: like nope, left hand shots shots. I don't know what
Speaker 5: you're doing.
Speaker 1: It always starts and you're like, okay, let's see if
Speaker 1: they're gonna play or not in it last about three
Speaker 1: possessions and somebody makes a full court pass and its
Speaker 1: bank off the backboard and yes.
Speaker 5: Not just before we get out of here. You you
Speaker 5: with two All Stars Joel MAXI. I love Tyrese Maxie's game.
Speaker 5: It's been incredibly fun to see his growth. And I
Speaker 5: think what most people don't know about Max he is
Speaker 5: as good of a player as he is, he's probably
Speaker 5: times better person. Just the vibe he brings to the team.
Speaker 5: And I've never been on a team with him, but
Speaker 5: I can see it, like the vibe he brings to
Speaker 5: a room, like he just brings great energy all the time.
Speaker 5: It's been great to see his growth. What do you
Speaker 5: guys have to do in order to take that next step?
Speaker 5: I know Joe hasn't been out of the second round
Speaker 5: in his career. Like, what do you guys got to
Speaker 5: do to get over that hum and take that next step?
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you one hundred percent right about Tyrese.
Speaker 1: He like he makes every room he goes into better.
Speaker 1: I still think he's got a ceiling that hasn't been
Speaker 1: hit yet. I think he's gotta He doesn't understand how
Speaker 1: good he's gonna be yet. I think I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see him keep growing and Listen, I think that
Speaker 1: as you know, man, we need we got a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of roster response. We got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: money to spend, and we gotta we gotta piece it
Speaker 1: together around those two guys, Like who compliments him, who's
Speaker 1: got some toughness, who's got some winning spirit, who's got
Speaker 1: some winning experience, you know, who's not afraid, who can
Speaker 1: accept some roles? You know, all that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that you need to build a team. But we're certainly trying.
Speaker 1: I believe in my front office and Darryl and Elton
Speaker 1: and ownership and all that stuff, and I certainly believe
Speaker 1: in those two players absolutely.
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, I think we're also starting
Speaker 5: to see that shift in the NBA of where you
Speaker 5: remember back in the day where you had a great
Speaker 5: point guard or great guard, a great one or two,
Speaker 5: and you had a great big man and y'all got
Speaker 5: that right, Like, and I'm starting to see the NBA
Speaker 5: shift back. You know, we kind of went through the
Speaker 5: small ball phase. Everybody was trying to copy your style
Speaker 5: of play, right, And I think we're starting to see
Speaker 5: the league flip back now to size and great guard,
Speaker 5: great big and you guys have those foundational pieces already,
Speaker 5: so feeling just filling the pieces in I think you
Speaker 5: know it's obviously important. But my last question before we
Speaker 5: get out of here coach as a Coach of the
Speaker 5: Year candidate or now, excuse me, a Coach of the
Speaker 5: Year winner in yourself, I just want to know what
Speaker 5: do you make the voting process for these awards? You
Speaker 5: won Coach of the Year, I've won a Defensive Player
Speaker 5: of the Year myself, But the voting process for a
Speaker 5: guy like Eric Sposcher who's never won an NBA Coach
Speaker 5: of the Year award, Like, what do you make of
Speaker 5: the voting process when it comes to the Coach of
Speaker 5: the Year, m VP, Defensive Player of Year?
Speaker 3: What do you make of the whole voting process.
Speaker 1: I just I just always want to make sure that
Speaker 1: these people that are voting are watching the games right,
Speaker 1: they really are investing the time and and I think drama.
Speaker 1: You know who the good journalists are and good good
Speaker 1: people in the media that are really knee deep into it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of games to watch, those
Speaker 1: people have a lot of work to do and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: That's that's all.
Speaker 1: I just think that's what I would say about anything
Speaker 1: like like you talk about being on the show as
Speaker 1: a champion, Like you got to make sure when when
Speaker 1: you're talking about stuff after the game that you've you've
Speaker 1: studied and you've actually watched it, you're not just kind of, hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on and taking somebody else's opinion and twisting
Speaker 1: it in your own little flavor and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely No, I think it's great.
Speaker 5: I think I think the one complaint that I would
Speaker 5: have about it is like, to your point, it's hard
Speaker 5: to get a hundred, like to think that all hundred
Speaker 5: of these people are watching.
Speaker 3: All of these games right now if you dedicate it.
Speaker 5: And by the way, maybe it flips every year, because
Speaker 5: it's so like there should be some laws in place
Speaker 5: of like, hey, we need to have proof, like maybe
Speaker 5: you're sending in notes after the game or something like
Speaker 5: we need to have proof that you've been watching these games.
Speaker 5: And so maybe it's like a twenty five person committee
Speaker 5: where you know, you're voting on the awards and they
Speaker 5: got that strenuous job this year, and then someone else
Speaker 5: take on another twenty five take on that strenuous job
Speaker 5: next year.
Speaker 3: But I think like there's no way, come on, there's
Speaker 3: no way.
Speaker 5: A lot of these journalists that are on the East
Speaker 5: coast are watching us play on the West coast when
Speaker 5: when our game start at seven thirty pm and it's
Speaker 5: ten thirty and they're watching the game the whole way through.
Speaker 6: I would say this, I do. I do have some
Speaker 6: of the people that are on there. I do have
Speaker 6: some of them reach out to me and call me.
Speaker 1: And they always, you know, they'll tell me you're talking
Speaker 1: about defensive all defensive team or something, and I'll always say, well,
Speaker 1: give me, give me what you're talking you know who
Speaker 1: you're comparing with who first, you know, like, and they
Speaker 1: do do a good job of like, here's where I
Speaker 1: got it right now?
Speaker 6: What do you think? And then I'll say, man, no way, yes, way,
Speaker 6: you're right, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So I think that's doing some homework and doing some research,
Speaker 1: asking asking some some coaches or or assistant coaches, guys
Speaker 1: that are watching the film every day, right that can
Speaker 1: give them some positive feedback and hopefully they take.
Speaker 5: It one hundred percent. Coach Man, I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 5: You'll upset you kicked our ass. You make the call
Speaker 5: of the NBA Finals and go box and one and
Speaker 5: stifi our offense. Nonetheless, I am absolutely honored and appreciate you.
Speaker 5: Appreciator of you coming on the show. It's an honor
Speaker 5: to have you on. Good luck with your journey with
Speaker 5: the seventy six is. I know you'll do great things.
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Speaker 5: coach Man, I thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Hey, Draymond, appreciate it man, And it's honored to be
Speaker 1: on the show. But it's even more of an honor
Speaker 1: to compete against your great teams and against you some times.
Speaker 1: I know, I know we have a couple right down
Speaker 1: once in a while, me and you, but we're both competitors.
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, and that and that is what happens.
Speaker 1: Don't kicks, don't kick my butt, man, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not going you know you want to jaw at me.
Speaker 6: I'm y'all back just but we're good right right.
Speaker 3: There, baby, I would never cross that line.
Speaker 6: Coach, be good man, take care of have a great summer.
Speaker 3: Thank you, coach, you too.
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