WEBVTT - Best Of Dear Chelsea: Shoshanna + Simone Handler 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:07.360 Hi Catherine, Oh, Hi Chelsea, Hi everybody. Welcome to a 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.719 new episode of Dear Chelsea. I have been getting a 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.760 lot of sister advice. I got a lot of sister 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.480 action in my life, a lot of sisters in my life, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.800 a lot of sisters asking for advice, and a lot 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.599 of sisters come to see me perform. So I thought 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.800 it would be kind of fun to have my sisters 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.960 on to dole out advice. Because my older sister Simone 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.320 is who I go to for all my advice. Shashana, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.800 I also Shawna is more of like a love like 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.240 a love seat, like you go to her for love 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.560 and warm ship. Yeah, she's a lot like my mom. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.480 And then my sister Simone is less emotional and more practical. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.600 And so I have both sides of the coin and 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.840 my sister to be Yes, I feel very, very lucky. 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.040 Notice that I'm not mentioning how lucky I feel about 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.520 my brothers. But I do have a really sweet brother 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.680 named Roy. He is so sweet. He's just a little 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.440 He's like a just a love muffin. Also, but I'm 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.920 not asking him for advice either. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.000 I'm so excited that they're joining us. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.200 I know it's a very exciting. So I want to 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.679 give a warm welcome to both of my sisters, Simone 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.400 and Shashana. Look they're both here at the same time, 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.440 so serendipitous or an appointment. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.920 Hello, Hello, Hello. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.760 Simone, you look so profresh. I love it. I am 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.080 a professional, so I know, I know, I know all 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.120 the fucking about it. Hi Catherine, Nice to meet you, Hie. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.720 Likewise, I'm so excited for today. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.640 Shauna beginning see you but not hear you yet. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.399 This is what it's like to get a phone call 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:41.960 from her. Hi. 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.560 Girls, do we not get to meet Brad? 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:45.800 Brad? 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:46.880 Come say hi, Brad. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.880 Bring the dogs. They got a brother and sister combo platter, 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.120 just like Burton Bernice pug puppies. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.720 Two pugs. Oh my god, yes, the smush face. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.160 And we have an older pug who's seven. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:01:59.480 Nice. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.800 Oh they're the two dogs, I say, Hi. Oh, look 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.240 at them. They're making out with each other. That's sweet 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:07.720 when they kiss each other like that. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:09.040 Cute. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:13.079 Okay, So to continue our family story, So Simone had 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.040 her surgery. Then I went so Shanna got the rough 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.920 of it because someone was in bad shape for the 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.560 first week. And then when I came on the scene. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.600 We turned a corner and I forced her into a 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:29.079 physical therapy regimen, a walking exercise regimen post. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.919 Spinyal boot camp is what I like to call it. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.440 And then Shashana was like, Chelsea, don't give her alcohol. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.720 You know, you can't give her alcohol. She's recovering, she's 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.079 on oxy cotton. And I was like, first of all, 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.160 oxy cotton was made to be paired with alcohol, so like, obviously, 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.480 if you know anything about a medical procedure or recovery, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.640 you want to make it as painless as possible. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.480 That first Margarita was delicious. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.880 Yes, exactly, and then she's like, and definitely don't give 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.800 her edibles. And of course, you know, three days in, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.080 I'm like, this is going to make you relax and 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.200 feel better. So we had two different experiences. But on 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.600 the last day of our trip, Simone had a goal 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.520 to walk across the Golden Gate Bridge, right, is that 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.040 the bridge we walked across mony, Yeah, which was a 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.280 lot less pleasant than we thought it was going to 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.240 be because you're basically on a bridge that feels like 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.679 it's swaying back and forth while. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.440 Hundreds of cars are zooming past you. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.480 It was like this, and you can't talk because you 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.600 can't hear anything. So it's basically it was like a 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.840 march and we got to one side. I was like, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.079 let's call an uber. She's like, let's just walk back. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.079 I'm like, but why it's so unpleasant. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:30.880 All I saw for the week. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.520 That you were there was posts of Margarita's and luncheons, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.400 and I was like, what happened? 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:37.600 I mean, what did I mean? 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.320 You did get the raw end of the field. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.640 Shawna thought they were going to boor a board together. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.920 She's like, when are we going to go paddle boarding? Anyway, 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.680 I left Simone in great stead. So Shashana is technically 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.880 a registered nurse, but I'm a medical practitioner, and I 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.520 would like to say that even though everyone advises me 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.000 against advising others of medicine, I'm going to continue to 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.680 do it because I feel like I know what I'm doing, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.360 and I can tell by Simone's progress while I was 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:04.760 there that I do know what I'm doing. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.000 You were on CNN yesterday for that. Did you see that? 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:08.880 No? 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:09.560 For what? 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.880 I don't watch CNN anymore. For ompic oh, for my ozempic. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.600 People are like Chelsea handler didn't know she was on ozempic. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.760 I was like, first of all, do you think I 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.760 would admit that I don't know the difference between the 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:25.720 sun and the moon, but then lie about ozempic. I mean, obviously, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.640 I fucking tell the truth about everything. And it's called 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.000 semaglue tide. So I did not know I was on 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:36.200 ozempic until I was on ozempic. Perfect anyway, Okay, so girls, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.719 let's talk about both of you. Oh no, Catherine, you 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:39.480 had something. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:39.680 Right, I do. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.640 I actually have an email from one of our listeners, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.920 and I wanted to get your perspective on it. Ladies. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.120 A very special flight attendant emailed us and she said, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.520 Dear Chelsea, not sure if you'll ever read this, but 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.040 I watched your special last night with a fond memory 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.400 of having you on board my flight in first class 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.840 when I was a purser on a flight we were 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.520 taxiing out when the in prints, the white businessman gentleman 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.240 next to you, rang his call button and decided to 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.760 tell me you hadn't turned off your phone. You looked 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.480 at him and said, are you fucking kidding me? Are 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.400 we in high school? You're telling on me? I was 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.800 laughing so hard I almost peed myself. Your mention of 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.600 respect for flight attendants was touching, as was the mention 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.400 of your fear of pregnancy in the forties. I am 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.760 one of those women who chose to never have children, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.520 and yes, drunk, I thought you couldn't get pregnant in 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.560 your forties and did, and yes, thank God had access 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.719 to abortion. So thank you for mentioning it, and thank 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.040 you for one of my most memorable flight stories. So 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.880 what I would love perspective on is has she always 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.159 been this way? Just able to say stuff like this 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.560 to like strangers who were trying to read her on 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:48.080 the plane. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.880 Yes, that's a really quick, easy answer. Yes, And that's 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.359 the most common question we get about Chelsea is was 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.120 she always like this? Yes, since she was probably three 0:05:59.200 --> 0:05:59.640 years old. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.000 And are you both like that as well or less direct? 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.080 We'll say no, No, we have different styles. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.520 I'm kind of a pleaser. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.799 I don't like to make waves and those confrontational type things. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.000 I mean, I will get annoyed, but it takes a 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:16.720 little bit more for. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.200 Me to get annoyed. Like I had someone on the 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.080 plane once. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.080 Who, during an eight hour flight to France, got up 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.839 six times to pee, and the fifth time I just 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.360 looked over and said, really. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.280 Well we both have the same language, because really was 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.839 the first thing I said to that guy too. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.400 I'm reasonable up to a point and then I lose it. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.680 So so Shahana. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.280 Yeah, I feel kind of the same way. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.800 I mean, you know, it takes a lot to get 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.960 me going, but it's something like that, I would definitely 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:46.840 have said something. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:47.320 Yeah, yeah. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.440 I love the idea of an adult person telling on 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.559 another adult person to a flight attendant, like you can't 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.840 settle this little kerfuffle between two people. She's not turning 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.200 off her phone, so that's like her saying her seat 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.720 tray isn't up, which I still don't understand why those 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.240 have to be up when we take off, like they're 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.000 going to fly off into our eyes. I don't understand 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.240 why we can't be reclined. And actually, with all of 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.560 my newer relationships with flight attendants and the goodwill that 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.680 I've instilled with them for me, I feel like I 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.520 should be able to ask one of them. I don't 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.559 understand why we can't be reclining when we take off. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.720 When I take a sleeping pill and then get on 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.600 a plane, I want to go straight to sleep. I 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.040 don't want to take off and go to sleep. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.200 There must be a reason. I don't know what it is. 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.600 And get those answers for you, Chelsea. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.720 Yeah, well there's yeah. And also the like turns your 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.840 phone on airplane mode. I don't believe that's true either, 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.880 that you have to do that. I do it. Do 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.520 you do it when you guys go on planes put 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:41.640 your phones on airplane mode? 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.120 We used to do it, but the last couple of 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:48.040 years I hit or miss. I just forget. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:52.440 And whether you do it, whether I. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.960 Do it, that's above our pay grade. Sorry. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.320 Okay, well, thanks for all your help you guys. That's 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.240 the end of the episode. Thank you for coming perfect. Okay, 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.800 So let's talk about Catherine. I want to talk about 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.080 sisters and the dynamic between sisters. So Simone's oldest, Sashawana's 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.440 the middle, and I'm the youngest. Even though I'm the 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.600 loudest and the most obnoxious and the most opinionated, I'm 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.080 the baby. But I also act like I run the family, right, guys, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:18.080 that's very true. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.800 She does like the boss of the family. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.760 Yeah, but I will defer to other people's opinions if 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.000 I find them of value. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.200 So kind of you. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.839 I'll defer to Simone on a lot of things because 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.160 I know Simone smarter than I am. So when I 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.720 ask her a question about how to frame something in 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.599 a more reasonable way, or how to tell somebody that 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.280 they're fucking annoying without hurting their feelings, Simone is the 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.880 person to go to. And Shashana has recently blossomed and 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.679 burst into her own stage of womanhood right with her 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.000 personal business which she's at ear Piercer, a remote ear piercer, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.000 and she's a registered nurse, so you're getting a safe 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.080 ear piercing when you You can follow her on Instagram 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.480 at Piercing's Sha Shanna. Shauna started her own business how 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:03.760 long ago Shauna two years? 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.280 One year, about a year ago. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.240 Okay, and it's thriving. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.600 Doing it about four years. 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.560 So yeah, it's a mobile concierge piercing service. We come 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.280 right to your home and make it a safe, fun experience. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.040 Everyone gets a certificate. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.720 Of bravery for pictures and it's just a really happy, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.920 fun way to do it that's comfortable and relaxed in 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:21.520 your own home. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.480 And there's a huge market of little babies and little 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.440 girls that are getting their ears piers I had no 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.520 idea that so many people do this. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.760 Oh my gosh, Yes, every little girl in Jersey. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.079 Yeah, and everybody I tell, they tell five or six friends. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.920 Do you do like birthday parties and stuff? 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:37.400 I do? 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.120 Sometimes I'm the actual present and the kid doesn't even 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:41.800 know I'm coming, but she's been begging to get her 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.080 ears pierced for months. And I walk on the door 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.200 and they say, do you know who this is? She's 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.679 going to pierce your ears? And then I pop out 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:49.319 of a cake. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.440 Topless. Everyone in our family goes topless. It's not just me, 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:59.800 it's hereditary. My point of that story, Shauna, was that, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.199 but you were working in the medical industry, not medical industry, healthcare, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.920 proper healthcare. You were a nurse. My sister was a 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.520 nurse and then she kind of got tired of that, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.959 and I guess the hours and the sense of responsibility. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.079 So you started your own business, and I think it's 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.680 given you a really big boon, right, like a boost 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.559 of self confidence, of self esteem. Tell us about that. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.320 Well, in a million years, I never thought I would 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.760 own my own business. So it's been so much fun. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.280 I kind of fell into it because I started out 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.520 with another company and then they ended up stopping the 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.840 home piercings and there was such a huge demand. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.840 So Shashana continued to moonlight. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.240 That I thought, you know, how can I keep doing this, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.360 you know, legitimately, And so I formed my own company. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.560 And I love it. It's so rewarding and fun. Everybody I 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.079 need is so nice and they're so happy. It's such 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.000 a happy occasion. Everything's good about it, and I love it. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.320 It's so cute because you're so much more social now, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.800 Like I never really thought of you as being super social, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.600 but you're out there, like meeting new people all the 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.240 time and they adore you. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.040 It's really cute. Yeah. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.840 No, I mean, I don't think I ever had a 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.360 problem being social or anything. I'm like more shy and 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.240 quiet than you guys are. But I've always give been 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.760 good with patients and patient care in the hospital and 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.920 all that, so it's just transferring it to the home. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.959 So for me, it's been easy, but I love it. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:17.760 Well. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.600 I think that Pivot is really great for our listeners 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.280 to hear because we have a ton of people who 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.000 call in or write in and they're like, well, this 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.040 is what I learned to do. This is what my 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.120 career has been for the last twenty years. I can't 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.040 really get out of it, especially when it's something really 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.760 like you had to study for a long time for healthcare, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.320 et cetera, and you pivoted into something where your background 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.800 is super relevant, but it's definitely outside the box, and 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:43.920 you know, you got creative with it, and look at 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:44.280 you now. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.240 And both of them have had big life moves. Simone 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.160 moved to San Francisco, like how many years ago? 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.240 Mony, it's been like six and a half years, I guess. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.920 Yeah, from New Jersey. Her kids were getting older, but 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.680 she still had one kid in high school, my niece, Sunny. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.200 So she was deliberating whether or not to move out west, 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.520 which was a huge culture shift really, I mean as 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.160 far as a culture shift as you can get in 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.079 like America. I guess Mississippi would be a bigger culture shift. 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.640 But you know, and you kind of did change, not careers, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.040 but in a way you did. You changed what you 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:15.480 were doing. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:15.880 Yeah. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.640 No, I mean I think in my career I've done 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.720 a lot. I've had a lot of different jobs or 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:20.559 different positions. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.000 But so it has been in healthcare law. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.000 And so I think as my kids were getting older 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.160 and I was divorced, and I was living in suburbia, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.120 and I was kind of just bored with living there 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.319 and that whole routine of taking kids of soccer and baseball, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.000 and I didn't really find my people there where I was, 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.199 And then I thought, you know, I really do need 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.920 a change. So when I found this job in California, 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.280 I was like, Oh, I could totally live in San Francisco. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:46.200 Why couldn't I. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.920 The only big stumbling block was my daughter, who was 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.360 in high school and had to move her whole life here, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.199 But even for her, for her it was probably a 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.240 huge benefit as well. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.640 So it worked out. I don't know for both of us. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.400 It's changed the venue I think is always good. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.920 I feel like those big changes are always beneficial to everybody. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.520 Because you were kind of like, this, isn't that a 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.760 far move? I remember you talking about it, and it's like, no, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.920 you got to go for it, switch things up in 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.200 a big way. And you've never looked back and regretted 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.680 that you ever moved across the country. No, not for 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.200 a second exactly. And Shashan, even when you were starting 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:18.920 your business you were like, Oh, I got to go 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.880 register as like an LLC or whatever it was, or 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.240 an escorp or whatever you were talking about, and you're like, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.120 it's just such a pain in the ass, and then 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.160 you did it and look and then you have never 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.200 looked back. Right, Like, all the little reasons that we 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.520 always have for not doing something, we don't ever even 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.800 end up remembering those reasons. So like when you're making 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.920 a big decision or a life move and you're making 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.360 it's almost like you're making excuses for why it can't 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.680 be done. And when you overcome hurdles, which you kind 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.560 of need to do to take a risk in life, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.679 you have to overcome these hurdles otherwise it's not a 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.360 risk exactly. You really rarely ever look back and be like, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.360 oh God, I wish I hadn't done that, you know, 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:57.720 when you're taking leap of faith. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.840 Oh, I mean, honestly, I'm thinking three years old, and 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.120 it's the best thing I've ever done. And I'm happier 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.280 now than I've ever been doing anything professionally. I couldn't 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.319 be happier. So I'm so glad that I did found 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:11.520 out what I had to do, and it was a 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.880 pain in the ass, and it took a while, but 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:15.319 now it's done. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.439 I also like the fact that when you do something 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.800 like that, you know you have two kids that see 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.640 that change in you, and so you're modeling this behavior 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.400 of doing something unique and different and risky. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.920 So they see that they benefit from that in their 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.680 own lives and their own decision making too. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.280 Yeah, I totally agree with that. They definitely do. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.800 I know Burt and Bernice have benefited from all of 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.520 the challenges and risks I put myself in front of. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.680 The only thing is Russell, my fourteen year old teenage 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:46.320 son tells his friends when they ask what his mother does, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.640 they say, she stabs babies for a living. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:49.720 So that's a little. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.560 Yeah, but those are babies whose parents are choosing for 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.200 them to be staffed like that's an unfair assessment. I 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.360 always used to look at like babies getting their ear 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.400 pierce as hard, so now I think it's adorable. 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.040 They look so mute, I know. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.440 And plus it's over in a second, right, It's not 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.160 like it goes on. I said to Sean, I go, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.920 what happens when you do the one ear and then 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.440 they know what's going on? How do you do the 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.400 second ear. She's like, they forget right away, way quickly. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.240 You're smiling and happy. Two minutes. It's great and they 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.280 never remember it. So everybody's happy, the parents are happy. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:23.880 Do you only do ears? 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.360 I do only do ears. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.960 You know a few months ago, Chelsea put up on 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.320 Instagram that I would pierce pretty much anything on your body, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.440 you know, anything, anything, And I got all these private 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.040 messages if I could come pierce their private parts, and 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.640 they're this and that, and I had to you know, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:43.560 I had to let them down gently that right. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.280 Now, it's it's just an ear business. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.280 So it was an area for expansion down the road. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:48.600 Don't roll it out. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:50.440 Yeah, I'll think about that. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.400 Just get some extra alcohol swabs and you'll be all set. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.800 Maybe I'll practice nibble piercing on my husband Mike. I'm 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:57.760 sure he would be thrilled. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:04.480 Nipple piercing. Can't be that bads. Oh oh yeah, copy that, Okay, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.080 got it, got it. Shashana is more virginal than I am. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.640 If you haven't picked up on that. Also, where's our 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.560 where's Roy Shashana? What's roy status? These days? Our brother 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.520 Roy was living with Shashana. He came out to visit 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.800 with Simone when we were we were tending to her back. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:19.840 Oh that's right, there was. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.200 A surprise visit. He just showed up at my doorstep. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.120 That was that was a really nice surprise. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.480 Yeah, And then he hung out with us all week. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.680 And then what we would do is each of us 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.600 had to take Simone for well, we took her for 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.840 like her geriatric walk basically every day because she wasn't 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.160 very mobile, So we would take her out for like 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.840 thirty minutes or as much as she could handle, and 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.600 then we'd get back and then Roy would go for 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.880 a real walk, and then he'd come back and I'd 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.800 go for a real walk. I was smoking a lot 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.840 of pot during this time because I had nothing going 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.080 on except the care for Simone, and that I could 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.080 barely handle. So one day and our only responsibility was 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.440 not to leave Simone alone like that was it just 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.280 don't leave her alone because in case she got herself 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.320 into a jam, she wouldn't be able to get out 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.440 of it because she had stitches up and down her back. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.800 So one day Simone was like, oh, I have a 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.160 tesla appointment at too, that's all we have today. After 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.879 we went for a walk. I said sure, okay, So 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.080 Roy went for a walk. I smoke a joint, I 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.680 go for a walk. I go for a longer walk 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.399 than expected because I'm stoned. And I get back and 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:18.200 Simone's not there, and I was like, Roy, what the fuck? 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.159