1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Semesta and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I never told you production of I Heart Radio. Ah So, 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: dear listeners, welcome again to another addition of women around 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: the world. Also, Happy International Women's Month. Everyone. Yes, I 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: keep forgetting I think it's February and then I think 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: it's like, what did I today? I was like Mother's Day. 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I need to get the day card, 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: and I was like, you're really ready. We're all over 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: the place, for sure, but you know what, I kind 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: of forget just because our job is centered around women 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: in general, so it's just every days Women's Day, International 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Women's Days for us, and specifically when it comes to 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: our segment women around the world. We tried to look 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: beyond just our small country, which is not small but 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: you know me, and look at see what's happening and 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: who are making some big changes in the world. And 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I do have a question for you today because I 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: thought about this. What is your favorite memories of your 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: grandparents or something that it stands out with as especially 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: with your grandmother, something that significantly stands out about how 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: the community saw her. My grandmother was somebody who always 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: went out of her way, like she would every Christmas, 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: we would give gifts. So I would go with her 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: and she would give out gifts to people, and she 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: would introduce me to people. And as you know, Samantha, 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: I love to travel, but no one else in my 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: family really did accept my grandparents, and so she would 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: we would deliver this fudge that was from my hometown 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: to her friends and she would sit me down with 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: them and have them talk with me about their travels. 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: It was something that I look back now and I 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: wish I had appreciated more those times because it was 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: really sweet. But I was just like a shy, insecure child, 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, don't look at me. But yeah, 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: it was really nice to have she took that time, 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and I think that's how people saw her as somebody 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: who went out of her way to remember you. Yeah. 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. I feel the same way specifically 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: with my uh we call her Mama Joyce, and she 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: was known around the community because she was a teacher, 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: and everybody knew she was called miss Joyce. Outside the family, 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: everybody knew her. Didn't matter like if we were in 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: like a hundred mile radius and I'm meaning a hundred mole, 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding. People would recognize her because she 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: had become such a staunch part of the community through 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: her teaching. And she was also a huge basketball player, 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: a swimmer, like she was an athlete through and through, 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and so for a small town, she was popular. And 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: I love the stories and people would talk about how 50 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: much they adored her, and she probably was someone that 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: I really looked up to. Of course, you have issues 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: with everyone, you can't, you know, put them on tedistol, 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: But like she truly loved her family. She truly loved people, 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: and no matter who they were, background they came from, 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: they were always hers. If you were in her classroom 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: at any point in time, no matter what, you are 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: one of hers. And she would say that. And every 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: time she would walk away from someone coming say miss Joyce, Hi, 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: how are you? And if I was with her, she 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: would be like, so and so he's one of mine. 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: He's one of mine. I love the death He's one 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: of mine. She's one of mine. And that's exactly how 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: I remember her. But I love that her legacy kind 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: of continued on with that, and the reason I was 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: thinking about this today we're talking about Bill kis Bano, 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: who is from India an eight two year old woman 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: in India who is also known as bill Kise Dotty 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: which apparently means grandmother, and she has made uh pretty 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: big significant headway and has become kind of a symbol 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: for India. Yeah, because as we've discussed on past many episodes, 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: India has been in the news a lot lately. And yeah, 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: we talked about the protest that is happening there right now, 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and we also talked about one of the biggest protests 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: that occurred last year that was led by women right 75 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: so well, one of the most again significant people of 76 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: the protests was bill Kispano or again as we're saying, 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Bill kis Dotti. She became a representative and an inspiration 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: for people all over the country as she was part 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: of the Shaheen Bog protest, which protested against the CIA 80 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: or the Citizenship Amendment Act, which was seen as suscriminatory 81 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: to specific religions in specific communities such as Muslim communities, 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: and against the police brutality that was happening in overall 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: discrimination towards different communities. And Bill Ki Studies sat with 84 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: the Shaheen Bog Dotties, our grandmothers of shaking bag who 85 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: were the part of the front line during the protests. 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: She sat for over three months from eight a m. 87 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Till midnight. Right she became a figure and a symbol 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: of peaceful resistance and led so many others to follow 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: her example and continued to protest against the system. She 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: was named by Time magazine as one of the onst 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Influential People of twenty twenty and was stated at as 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: someone who was giving quote, hope and strength to activists 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and student leaders who were being thrown behind bars for 94 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: standing up for the unpopular truth and democracy that was 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: sliding into authoritarianism, and inspired peaceful copycat protests across the country. 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: She was also recognized by the BBC as one of 97 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: the most influential and inspiring women in and when asked 98 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: about the honors, she said women should feel empowered to 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: step out of their homes and raise their voice, especially 100 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: against injustice. They don't leave their homes, how will they 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: showcase their strength? I love that. Of course. She actually 102 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: didn't stop there though, due to COVID restrictions and because 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: of the increase in cases, she did have to leave 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: the protests in March, but try to rejoin and with 105 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: the recent farmers protests, but was quickly picked up by 106 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: police and then released her family. Actually, according to one side, 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: she was detained but released the same day, and the 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: police stated they felt the protest should only be by 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: farmers since it was a farmer's protest, and that they 110 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: were concerned with the quote senior citizens safety. But she 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: was quoted as saying, quote, if I need to protest 112 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: through the night, I will. Yeah. Yeah, And though she 113 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: wasn't able to stay, she has been an adamant supporter 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of the protest and continues to encourage those who are 115 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: out protesting today. And as we talked about in that 116 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: episode we did about the Farmer's protest, it's been really 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: inspiring to see multiple generations of women show up and 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: be the faces of these protests and be yes, this 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: inspiration that spurs on copycat protest right. And she's definitely 120 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: one of the most recognized faces because she's in the 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: photos in the front and center waiting, just sitting peacefully 122 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: and sitting there making sure she's making a state but 123 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: without having to be loud essentially, And yeah, she is 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter as well, and so yeah, I don't know 125 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: if it's run by her, but she doesn't on Twitter, 126 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: Caunt and you can see her also grandsons who have 127 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: been reporting for her, so when she got arrested, they 128 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: were the ones kind of telling the details of what 129 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: was happening. And it's very interesting to see how amazing 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: it is that a group of older women can come 131 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: together and make such impact with just being present, and 132 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: I love it. So I really wanted to highlight her 133 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: because she just continues, obviously to fight as much as 134 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: she can until she gets swept away. Essentially, I'm really 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: glad she wasn't harmed or anything and she's back home. 136 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: But obviously a lot is happening in India. There's a 137 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: lugging wrong around the world as we know, as we've 138 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: been talking about, but seeing people like her continuing to 139 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: be a leader, it's inspiring absolutely, And thank you for 140 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: the chance to remember my grandmother. That was a lovely surprise. 141 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: As always, listeners, keep us posted on what's happening in 142 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: your neck of the woods. If you're in India, we 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. If you're anywhere, we 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. And who should we 145 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: highlight next for this segment. 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