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Speaker 2: Bucky on this Saturday. I don't know about you, Bucky.

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Speaker 2: First of all, missed you last week?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes those away? Yes you're away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks the last weekend because as you know,

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Speaker 4: and we'll talk about football season is upon its.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it is on. Have you been watching the Netflix

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Speaker 2: show Quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I have not watched it yet, but I'm about to

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Speaker 3: pop in tonight. Man o K.

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Speaker 2: So I'm six episodes into eight episodes. I've been watching

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Speaker 2: my son Garrett. My daughter's been watching, so she's catching up.

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Speaker 5: So we're waiting for her to catch up to where

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Speaker 5: we are.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about watching the show. So they profile

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Speaker 2: three quarterbacks. It's a Peyton Manning production. Okay, really well, done,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota, and of course

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Speaker 2: the Marcus Mariota ended early early when he probably just

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Speaker 2: did a two episode deal. Well, you know, Well, the

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Speaker 2: thing about it was it's behind the scenes stuff and

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Speaker 2: also on the field, and it was interesting because going

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Speaker 2: into the season he had three very different stories going

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Speaker 2: into the year, and it really played out beautifully, especially

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Speaker 2: with the Vikings big run and during the regular season.

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Speaker 2: All right, but here's the thing. So I'm watching the

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Speaker 2: show and they're obviously showing some of the game highlights

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Speaker 2: from this past season twenty twenty two, and buck as

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Speaker 2: you know, I sit here on Sundays with rich Orenberger

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Speaker 2: and we do our NFL show. We get on at

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock on the West coast one o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: East coast when all the morning games begin.

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Speaker 5: Is the dream job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we sit there every Sunday during the NFL

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Speaker 2: season with nine or ten games kicking off simultaneously, and

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Speaker 2: that's our job for four hours to keep you updated

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Speaker 2: on the game. So I'm reliving some of these games,

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Speaker 2: and I'm telling you, Buckie, I'm watching this with all

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Speaker 2: due respect and look, I love baseball. I love basketball,

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Speaker 2: I love all sports. I'm watching the Open Championship. Brian Harmon.

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Speaker 2: He's a tee away from being a brother of mine

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Speaker 2: right there, Harmon.

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Speaker 5: But there's nothing that beats football.

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Speaker 3: No football is king. I mean it just there.

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Speaker 2: The drama and all the behind the scenes stuff that

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Speaker 2: they talk about with the quarterbacks, all the preparation for

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Speaker 2: the games, all the physical stuff they have to go

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Speaker 2: through for the games. It's really well done and it

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Speaker 2: has really got me psyched up for football. And we

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Speaker 2: got a lot of NFL stories to get to obviously today,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: How you hang in.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the football has been your life and you've

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Speaker 2: got so many different I mean you have how many

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Speaker 2: jobs do you actually have? So you're coaching, you're writing,

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Speaker 2: you're broadcasting, both on television and radio. Am I missing anything?

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Speaker 4: I mean you have it, podcasting, it's all the same. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like yeah, I mean that's that's what it is. It's

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Speaker 3: Do you do you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because again, when we talk about preparation for

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Speaker 5: But what is your preparation right now?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm chomping at the bit right now, bucket to

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Speaker 5: Maybe more than I ever have.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm really excited. So in a way, it's wearing

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Speaker 4: there's a big kickoff. You'll see people from NFL media

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Speaker 4: But simultaneously, I am doing the preseason color for the

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Speaker 4: all the stuff, all the stuff. You know, I'm talking

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Speaker 4: on where we're at because when that game hits, I

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Speaker 4: think August twelfth is the first game against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: you gotta be ready.

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Speaker 3: You got to be able to tell stories.

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Speaker 4: And those games, as you know, are different than when

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Speaker 4: represent the team in the preseason, it's really a three

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Speaker 4: hour infomercial on the tap exactly, and so it's a

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Speaker 4: little bit about the other team, but a lot about

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Speaker 4: the team that you're representing, and you're talking about all

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Speaker 4: those storylines and this is going to be a great year.

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Speaker 3: Why you need to tune in and check out.

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Speaker 2: So here's someone to look out for. Here's a surprise

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Speaker 4: Oh man, So getting ready for that while also you know,

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Speaker 3: So it's been fun. It is.

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Speaker 5: It is going to be unbelievable a year, no doubt

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Speaker 2: A couple of things going on in the world today,

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Speaker 2: the Open Championships, I mean going on in Liverpool. Brian Harmon,

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Speaker 2: who I mentioned is a tea away from being actually

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Speaker 5: This guy's an unbelievable story.

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Speaker 2: I love stories like this because you go in and

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Speaker 3: I like, I'm a little taming to this. These are

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Speaker 4: And this is coming off of a weekend where we

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Speaker 5: By the way, I watched the new Steph Curry documentary.

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Speaker 3: Okay, look it's a much.

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Speaker 2: I sat down to you that you know what's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned this. So this say, is Steph

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Speaker 2: By the way, by the way, you mentioned that, I

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Speaker 2: I think you have a full appreciation of Steph Curry

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Speaker 5: You've got a lot of catching.

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Speaker 4: You got to assume, you know, it sounds like I

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Speaker 2: You're gonna I haven't watched a single episode of the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: let's when you were a big man on campus, Bucky, Right.

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Speaker 4: And you got to remember that North Carolina basketball was

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Speaker 2: Fox well, okay, Rick Yeah, throw Rick out, okay, Rick Fox, King,

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Speaker 2: Rice Yeah, j R. Reid, Uh, they were all on

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Speaker 4: And so let's go to the Raiders, the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Alva Kamar got paid some in fashion like the scrimmage

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Speaker 4: You have people who don't want to pay the position

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Speaker 4: on that. I'm not saying that you have to pay them,

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Speaker 4: but here's the advantage and the benefits of drafting a

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Speaker 4: running back high. So Saquon Barkley was drafted in the

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Speaker 4: first round, second overall pick, signs an original five year deal.

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Speaker 4: John's don't want to pay them a long term deal,

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Speaker 4: so now they franchise them. Then they can franchise them

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Speaker 4: again one hundred and twenty percent raise or whatever. So

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Speaker 4: in essence, if you draft a very talented player in

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Speaker 4: the first round as a running back, you have them

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Speaker 4: at team friendly costs for seven years, and guess what

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Speaker 4: happens after seven years going to open market because no

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Speaker 4: one's going to pay you big money. So it makes

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Speaker 4: more sense to me to draft an A plus running

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Speaker 4: back in the first round and operate on the debt proms.

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Speaker 4: Hey dude, I'm just letting you know you're never getting paid.

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Speaker 2: All right, So keep that thought for a moment. On

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Speaker 2: And I walk in today and I'm like, is that

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Speaker 2: is that Brian Finley who's been I don't know. You've

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Speaker 2: been jetting all over the world, haven't you? And I'm

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Speaker 2: not quite sure.

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Speaker 8: We're in a bunch of tennis broadcasting I know that.

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Speaker 8: So it's great to be back here with you guys

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Speaker 8: as we are closing in on football seasons starting and

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Speaker 8: golf is going on right now. You're talking about Brian Harmon.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was going down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had Ron you know, posts A sixty

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Speaker 2: three real early. You got to six under Harmon. Bogi's

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Speaker 2: two of the first four holes. He's at eight I'm like,

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Speaker 2: bye bye Brian. Paul Birdie's after that for him.

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Speaker 8: Having a chance to watch him in person at the

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Speaker 8: US Open here at LACC, Brian Harmon made some noise

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Speaker 8: up the leader board in the first couple of rounds

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Speaker 8: here in la this year as well.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 8: And this is the guy who earlier a couple of

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Speaker 8: years ago was a US Open runner up. It's fascinating

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Speaker 8: that in his size, how he is able to hit

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Speaker 8: the ball so straight, and as you said.

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Speaker 2: Not the power now and he's averaging I think two

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards of drive, which is by thirty

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Speaker 2: yards less. And let's say uh Roy McElroy in this tournament.

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Speaker 2: But he hits it straight. That's the thing about majors,

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Speaker 2: with all the rob and obstacles along the way, they

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Speaker 2: got out of bounds like crazy in thus course, hit

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Speaker 2: the ball straight.

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Speaker 5: That's how he's winning.

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Speaker 8: On eighteen, he didn't hit it straight off the tee,

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Speaker 8: went left in some of that rough that fescue, the

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Speaker 8: thick stuff ended up making a par saver from probably

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Speaker 8: about ten to twelve feet. You make those puts in

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Speaker 8: a major, at a tournament like that, you're gonna win.

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Speaker 5: All We still have one more round to go.

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Speaker 8: It is Brian Harmon leading at twelve under two hundred

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Speaker 8: four his day sixty nine. On the Saturday, Cameron Young

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Speaker 8: is in solo second, the fellow American and seven under collectively.

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Speaker 8: Sean Ramas mentioned he's six shots off the pace, but

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Speaker 8: an eight under a sixty three to or Low on

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Speaker 8: Saturday has sim and the thicke of things as well.

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Speaker 8: Baseball games starting to happen as well. The Rangers score

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Speaker 8: first in Texas against the Dodgers one nothing top of

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Speaker 8: the second, Cardinals and Cubs are all square at five.

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Speaker 8: Paul de Young for the Cards as zero for two

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Speaker 8: at the dish two strikeouts, Diamondbacks and the Reds just

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Speaker 8: underway scarless into the bottom of the second inning. Same

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Speaker 8: can be said between the Royals and Rays as far

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Speaker 8: as no runs to show for in the second inning.

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Speaker 5: Some finals to get to.

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Speaker 8: The Royals coming up short against the Yankees five to

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Speaker 8: two is the final there, and the Rockies are winners

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Speaker 8: against the Marlins four to three, and the Mets have

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Speaker 8: just crossed off the Red Sox five to four at

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Speaker 8: a game Bucky and Steve that actually started yesterday. Rain

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Speaker 8: halted things and so they just picked it back up

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Speaker 8: in the fourth inning and then played it out today

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Speaker 8: and then they got it done.

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Speaker 5: Why can't they do that more often?

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Speaker 8: I know it makes so much sense, but sometimes things

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Speaker 8: that make so much sense just never seem to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, in professional sports leagues, defens, good to have you back.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be here, guys, just gonna make a one

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Speaker 2: week stop with us, or I will be here next

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Speaker 2: week and then I'm going to University Kentucky for tennis events.

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Speaker 5: Are you real?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Lexington, so Bucky?

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Speaker 8: Will you you're getting ready for obviously all the Jacksonville

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Speaker 8: Jaguar stuff.

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Speaker 5: Will you be here or you're gonna be on the road.

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Speaker 4: We will be on the road for a few I

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Speaker 4: have a few. I'm trying to check out the timing

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Speaker 4: and the logistics see if we're gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: pull it off. But yeah, I'm going on the road.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do some training camp visits. I think I

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Speaker 4: have four. Did we know of I think I may

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Speaker 4: do the Vikings twice, the Niner in the Hawks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have things to share with him. Again, have

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Speaker 2: you watched any of Quarterback on Netflix?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I need to Peyton Manning's production right, phenomenal, really well done,

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Speaker 2: three very different type of quarterbacks taking you through their

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Speaker 2: entire twenty twenty two season with Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: and Marcus Mariota. But I gotta share some stuff with

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Speaker 2: this guy right here, because this guy knows the inside

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Speaker 2: of the locker and things have changed dramatically, Befn. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you a little bit later on once again,

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: with you. We're from a live from the tire rack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. All right, I want to get back

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Speaker 2: to this running back situation for a second with you, Bucky.

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Speaker 2: So you say that this zoom meeting being put together

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Speaker 2: by Austin Eckler all the big name running backs is

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Speaker 2: going to amount to nothing more than a bunch of

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Speaker 2: guys crying over spilt milk and there's nothing they can.

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Speaker 3: Do about it.

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Speaker 2: So let's go back to the idea of things are

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Speaker 2: not going to change in terms of the running back position.

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Speaker 2: So now I would think when you know, when when

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Speaker 2: you grow up, you know and you're watching the development

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Speaker 2: of football players, your two best players are your quarterback

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Speaker 2: and your running back. Look at the Heisman Trophy over

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Speaker 2: the years, which two positions have dominated, quarterback running back.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So if you're the kind of athlete to could play

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Speaker 2: running back, you're probably the kind of athlete that could

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Speaker 2: play wide receiver, cornerback. You could play a multitude of positions.

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Speaker 2: The reason you're playing running back is there's a lot

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Speaker 2: more glamour to it. You get to the ball, you

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Speaker 2: get to score touchdowns and everything else. But if if

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Speaker 2: you're told long term that it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: dead end once you get to the NFL, no matter

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Speaker 2: how good you are, you might be one of those

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Speaker 2: players entering college saying, you know, forget running back, I

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Speaker 2: want to play corner or I want to play wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's the move, and that's the move

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Speaker 3: that you make here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're seriously, if you had to move

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Speaker 2: on coming out of high school, that really could play

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Speaker 2: a multitude of positions. He's maybe was a running back

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Speaker 2: in high school. I would say, if you have designs,

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Speaker 2: if you have the talent to play at the NFL level,

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Speaker 2: don't be a running back.

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Speaker 4: No, it's harder, it's harder to get your Petty going

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Speaker 4: all the way back because I had this conversation frequently

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Speaker 4: with high school athletes about positions and positions of choice

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Speaker 4: and if you do have aspirations and if you're good enough,

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Speaker 4: what could be like the best path? And you know,

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Speaker 4: like the world we live in, particularly in southern California,

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Speaker 4: where you can.

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Speaker 3: Throw the ball all over the yard year round.

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Speaker 4: Seven on seven of those things, it's easier to develop

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Speaker 4: your skills on the perimeter because you can do that.

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Speaker 4: If you are going to be a running back, you

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Speaker 4: have to be legitimately like a capable wide receiver too

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Speaker 4: to go to become in addition to whatever you bring

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Speaker 4: as RB want. If anything, I would tell in the

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Speaker 4: spot running back, I think you need to pad in

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Speaker 4: your game. After Deebo Samuel. You need to kind of

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Speaker 4: be a guy that can kind of the versatility. You

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Speaker 4: can do it differently. You can do it like McCaffrey

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Speaker 4: and Kamara and all those guys. What is happening because

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Speaker 4: everything is about the passing game and seven on seven

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Speaker 4: is about the passing game, You're seeing more of these

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Speaker 4: guys already gravitate towards wide receiver. Running back is still

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Speaker 4: in alluring position because you do get to touch the ball,

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Speaker 4: and there's a fascination with everybody, but particularly young people.

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Speaker 4: They want to touch the ball, They wanted to be

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Speaker 4: in the hands, They want to feel like they're making

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Speaker 4: the difference each and every play. But the smarter move

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Speaker 4: when you think about long term, I would say the majority.

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Speaker 3: Of people should go play defensive back.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why is because when you look at

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Speaker 4: the wide receivers, the wide receivers, it's now coming back

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Speaker 4: where you're having guys that are five to ten to

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Speaker 4: six ' one dominated. Before a while, there was the

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Speaker 4: big receiver six three sixty four or whatever. Cornerback, if

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Speaker 4: you're over five ten and a half, you're considered a

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Speaker 4: big coin in NFL meeting rooms. And so if you're

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Speaker 4: someone who has been a long time wide receiver, if

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Speaker 4: you actually play the position in high school and are

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Speaker 4: trained at the position, you have a step ahead of

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Speaker 4: the curve.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine a guy like Saquon Barkley playing corner, Well, we.

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Speaker 4: Have to shrink some of those squads. We got you

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Speaker 4: gonna be able to play corner with those quads is

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Speaker 4: too big. But I do understand what you're saying, But

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Speaker 4: quad is quad's way too big to be out there

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Speaker 4: on the island.

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Speaker 2: I just look at physical corners play in every era now,

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Speaker 2: back in the old days before they had the five

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Speaker 2: yard rule. I mean receivers and corner Mel Blunt, Willie

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Speaker 2: Brown of the Raid. These are big men six three,

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Speaker 2: you know, and they had big bodies. I remember Lester

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Speaker 2: Hayes when he came to the Raiders. Oh man, you know,

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Speaker 2: Lester was a thick body guy, but he was super physical,

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Speaker 2: and they played up on the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 2: he would hit people, wouldn't even get them off the line.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just wonder now if you

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Speaker 2: are looking and add how this is morphine into the

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Speaker 2: future of the running back position in the NFL, why

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Speaker 2: anyone would choose to play running back.

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Speaker 4: It just makes it makes it harder, man, makes it

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Speaker 4: harder because you can't get paid. And you talk about

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Speaker 4: like a just a short I mean a short lifespan,

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Speaker 4: short career span in terms of just I mean you're

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Speaker 4: talking about two and a half three years and then

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Speaker 4: we're done. It's already fairly short for anyone else, but

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Speaker 4: at running back in particularly, it is a in and

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Speaker 4: out position. Just think about The Giants just signed James Robinson.

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Speaker 4: James Robinson was an undrafted feel good story, came out

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Speaker 4: of something annoy makes the Jaguars. It has over a

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Speaker 4: thousand yards, It gets injured, the next year bounces around,

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Speaker 4: He's traded to the Jest. The following year bounces around.

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Speaker 4: Can't get like two years. Really he has two years

658
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Speaker 4: of like practical experience and like now he's bouncing around

659
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Speaker 4: just trying to land a gig.

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Speaker 3: Think about Melvin Gordon.

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Speaker 4: Melvin Gordon probably regrets, but he sat out, turned down

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Speaker 4: a big deal, wanted more money, didn't take the deal

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Speaker 4: that was on the table, didn't get it. And look,

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Speaker 4: he went to Denver for a couple of years and

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Speaker 4: bounced around. Now he went to Kansas City on practice squad,

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Speaker 4: and now he's in the Ravens on a one year,

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Speaker 4: three million dollars deal. Like those things don't play out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't take long to go from sugar

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Speaker 4: to man being at the bottom of the food chain.

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Speaker 2: By the way, in this Netflix show Quarterback, they have

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. And of course you remember last year with

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Speaker 2: the Vikings, was that miracle year eleven to zero when

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Speaker 2: one score games until their playoff loss of the Giants,

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Speaker 2: of course, but highly featured obviously in highlights from their

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Speaker 2: games is Dalvin Cook. And I've been watching this series

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Speaker 2: with my son, who's a big NFL fan, and they're showing,

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Speaker 2: you know, Kirk Cousins dumping off a little scream pass

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Speaker 2: to Dalvin Cook and then runs to a defense sixty

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Speaker 2: yards for a touchdown. And he's like, he's like, WHOA,

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Speaker 2: why did.

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Speaker 5: They get rid of him?

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Speaker 2: They don't you're telling me they don't need Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 2: I know they got a lot of talent, they got

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Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in the league.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You're telling me that they won't miss Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing about all the stuff that is

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Speaker 4: frustrating to me. I always say, the better the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: the lesser the need of an high end running back. However,

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Speaker 4: the more the quarterback leans towards the medium the middle,

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Speaker 4: the more imperative that you have a high end running back.

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Speaker 4: And so people have to fairly evaluate the quarterback position.

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Speaker 4: And so coming back to Saquon Barkley and the New

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Speaker 4: York Giants, Daniel Jones hit well over forty five million

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Speaker 4: annually with fifteen testdowns and five interceptions. He threw some

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Speaker 4: yards with his legs and his athleticism, did a good

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Speaker 4: job cutting his turnovers. But there is no one who

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Speaker 4: prepares for the New York Giants as they're presently constructed

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Speaker 4: and says, you know what we have to do. Guys,

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Speaker 4: don't worry about Barkley. We had to stop Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: And so if you are working with them and you

702
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Speaker 4: have to really have a clear understanding of Sagwon Barkley

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Speaker 4: makes this offense go. Saquon Barkley makes life easy for

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. I'm not saying they had to meet him

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Speaker 4: at his number, but this should have been a thing

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Speaker 4: where they have him.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: They got him because he can't do anything. He's not

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Speaker 4: gonna sit out the entire year, but they have him.

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Speaker 5: But man, are you sure he's not going to do

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Speaker 5: a Leveon Bell.

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Speaker 4: I certainly hope not, because you can't get that Timy

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Speaker 4: and L's back. So I certainly hope that he elects

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Speaker 4: to come in maybe the day before the first game,

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Speaker 4: do his stuff and get his money, then be done.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what comes of the zoom call.

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Speaker 2: All right, on the other side, new ownership in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. What kind of work has to be

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Speaker 2: done to put the Washington franchise back together again? This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday. Oh we lost the legend, did

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Speaker 2: we not? Tony Bennett. Lady Gaga, she actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: she did all that stuff with Tony Bennett, recorded a

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Speaker 2: bunch of stuff. She said that this man like saved

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Speaker 2: her life. Who didn't record with Tony Bennett? Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: Ninety six.

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Speaker 3: It's a long life.

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Speaker 5: It's a long, long life.

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Speaker 3: One of the greats.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartbin Bucky Brooks were

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Speaker 2: live from the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, well,

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Speaker 2: Bucket's over the sale of the now Washing Commanders, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the possible name change again of that franchise.

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Speaker 2: It has been finalized six point zero five billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Snyder on the way out was find sixty million. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So let's take the sixty million from the six point

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Speaker 2: zero five billion that he just got for the franchise.

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Speaker 2: So instead of six point zero five billion, he gets

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Speaker 2: five point ninety nine billion. I mean, you find him

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Speaker 2: sixty million dollars. So instead of six point zero five billion,

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Speaker 2: he ends up with five point ninety nine billion. He

742
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Speaker 2: bought the franchise for eight hundred million dollars. That's that's

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Speaker 2: a tidy five billion plus profit from a franchise that

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Speaker 2: he literally ran into the ground both on and off

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Speaker 2: the field. So Josh Harris heads up this ownership group.

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Speaker 2: We know that Magic Johnson is part of that group

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Speaker 2: as well. Magic was talking about all the great things

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Speaker 2: about this franchise back in their redskin days when they

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Speaker 2: had a ten year run of making four Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: winning three of them, back in the Joe Gibbs era.

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Speaker 2: But if you are sitting down with Josh Harrison, this

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Speaker 2: ownership group that paid a record amount of money for

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Speaker 2: this franchise, and sit down with them and tell them

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Speaker 2: all the problems they have.

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Speaker 5: Let's just talk about on the field right now.

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Speaker 2: Forget the off field stuff because we know that they

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Speaker 2: got a lot of work to do to get things

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Speaker 2: under back in order. But on the field, where is

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Speaker 2: this Washington franchise right now?

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Speaker 5: Bucky?

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Speaker 4: This is tough because they have a lot of talent.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have a lot of talent that is

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Speaker 4: there and available. Like they have a team that can

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Speaker 4: contend for postseason, but the missing link is the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: and so do they have the quarterback in Sam Howell

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Speaker 4: to be able to get this team over the hump?

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Speaker 4: They're certainly they've been there, but they've just been hovering

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Speaker 4: right around five hundred and So when I look at

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Speaker 4: this team and I look at Roy river and I

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Speaker 4: think about Eric beenemy coming over. I think about a

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Speaker 4: skilled position players that they have, Terry McLaurin and some

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Speaker 4: of those guys like they have enough firepower to pop,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of it is going to hand on

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Speaker 4: a second year player in Sam Out.

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Speaker 5: Is Ron Rivera still the right guy to lead this team.

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Speaker 4: We'll see, because that's what we have to we have

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Speaker 4: to we have to see like we have to see

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Speaker 4: double digit wins, we have to see significant progress. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think this is year four the Ron Rivera Era's

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Speaker 4: time for.

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Speaker 3: Them to make a move.

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Speaker 4: And when you really look at what they've had, like

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Speaker 4: their their front line, they're front four all first round picks,

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Speaker 4: Chase Young, de Ron Payinne, Jonathan Allen Montest, we all

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Speaker 4: first rounders. So this defense should be a nightmare, should

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Speaker 4: be a headache to deal with. And so yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean it's time. I mean, when you have ownership change pressure,

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Speaker 4: it's a one year opportunity for him to continue. And

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Speaker 4: so if he wins and wins big, he stays on.

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Speaker 4: But if he doesn't, then he's subject to be gone.

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Speaker 2: Some of the players were talking. I guess they had

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Speaker 2: some kind of after the announcement of the sale. Some

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Speaker 2: fans get together and some of the players that have

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Speaker 2: been there several years of saying, we hadn't seen anything

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Speaker 2: like this before.

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Speaker 5: What about just changing.

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Speaker 2: An attitude in the clubhouse, in the dugout because I

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Speaker 2: say dugout, you know, in that locker room. Because here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, and this is the frustration of fans everywhere.

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Speaker 2: When you have a team that you root for and

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Speaker 2: your ownership sucks, there's no greater frustration because you can't

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Speaker 2: get rid of them. So this is a group of

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Speaker 2: players that has been working under a bad ownership. How

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Speaker 2: much work has to be done to just change the

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Speaker 2: mentality in that locker room.

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Speaker 4: A lot of work has to be done, and a

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Speaker 4: lot of work has to be done from top to bottom,

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Speaker 4: because it's not just what happens in the locker room,

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Speaker 4: it's the entire building and So how can you come

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Speaker 4: in and get this entire building to operate under one accord?

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Speaker 4: Who says division that will be owner? The owner has

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Speaker 4: to sit down in front of the entire building and

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Speaker 4: say here's how we going forward and that has.

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Speaker 3: To be the thing.

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Speaker 4: And then the coach and every action has to match

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Speaker 4: what those words have been said. So it's a huge challenge.

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Speaker 6: Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani is still an angel? Is he gonna stay

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Speaker 2: that way? Or is a real deal possible? This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: It's hot.

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Speaker 2: It's hot everywhere right now. I have friends of mine

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Speaker 2: in Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: They've had.

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Speaker 2: Over one hundred and ten degrees. I believe eight straight days.

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Speaker 2: I think they have another week of this. The low

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Speaker 2: at night is ninety three. That's the low. Ninety three hot,

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Speaker 2: very hot. How do you stay cool, Bucky?

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Speaker 3: What's your.

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Speaker 4: What's my secret to somehow make sure that air condition

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Speaker 4: is always working? And to sit down and be quiet.

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Speaker 4: That is the best way, because that's the way. The

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Speaker 4: That'll make you cooler.

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Speaker 3: So I've tried to master the art of doing that.

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Speaker 2: This is why I'm never cool, because I'm always talking

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Speaker 2: just about all the time. Although I tell you, Bucky,

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Speaker 2: this is pretty funny. So Rich Ornberger and his wife

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Speaker 2: Ann joined Denise, Mix and I for dinner, and the

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Speaker 2: four of us had a lot of conversation. You would

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Speaker 2: not believe this, knowing me, I am rich acknowlogists. No

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Speaker 2: one talked less than me. My my Denise was just

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Speaker 2: yapping away, Richie. No can talk all day. Even Rich's

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Speaker 2: wife Anne was talking. I was like the listener, oh,

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Speaker 2: which is rare bad the table, it's no different to

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Speaker 2: hear my voice. But you know, all right, So a

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Speaker 2: lot of noise being made in Major League Baseball surrounding

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Speaker 2: show hey, Otani.

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Speaker 3: E for good reason.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Otani he actually has a shot if he

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Speaker 2: stays hot with the long ball of breaking Aaron Judges

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Speaker 2: americanly home run record that was set last year's sixty two.

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Speaker 5: I mean he could do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean he can't do it, and it would be

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Speaker 4: great to see him do it. I think what's interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think the no more picking the MLB draft. The

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Speaker 4: picture talked about maybe wanting to hit. Now you talked

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Speaker 4: about wanting to swing to bat a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So okay, Yeah, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, look when you look at show Hey, when

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Speaker 2: we say once in a lifetime talent, we hear that

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Speaker 2: term a lot, right, he's a generational talent, or she's

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Speaker 2: a generational talent or once in a while. Otani is

876
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: a once in a lifetime. There is no one like

877
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: show Hey Otani. There never has been and there never

878
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: will be. With all due respect to George Herman, Babe Ruth,

879
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 2: we will never see anyone quite like this guy. So

880
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: I if he's a pitcher, stay a pitcher. You want

881
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: a DH, great, But I doubt as a DH while

882
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: being a starting pitcher that you have the potential to

883
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: hit sixty home runs.

884
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, we just touted versatility galore in football,

885
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: but we have someone who is aspiring to be a

886
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: versatile player. We have Shantani showing the way. Yeah, like

887
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: spawning a new generation of guys who want to be

888
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: complete players.

889
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the fact is now that we have

890
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: the universal DH. You know, I used to be only

891
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: in the mirror colleague, but now that's the universal DH.

892
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: It affords you an opportunity if you have that kind

893
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: of bat. It's just so we've never seen a picture

894
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: have this kind of bat. And we've seen good hitting pictures,

895
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: but not pictures that potentially.

896
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: Could lead the league at home runs.

897
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: As far as the Otani trade rumors are concerned, I'm

898
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: gonna say this right now. You can rest assure the

899
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: Angels are not trading show hey.

900
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 3: Hotan, you don't think they send them down the street.

901
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Just first of all, the last team they're gonna do

902
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: is trade him to the Dodgers. Think that, I promise

903
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: you one hundred percent they would not trade him to

904
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: the Dodgers.

905
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 3: Keep them in the marketplace a little bit, keep them.

906
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 5: Keep him in the marketplace.

907
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: If you were Hardy Marino, the owner of the Angels,

908
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: and you were to trade show, hey Otani the Dodgers,

909
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: you might as well just shut down Angel Stadium. Okay,

910
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean, just shut it down. But the fact is,

911
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: there's nothing that could be offered out there that would

912
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: be the equal of I mean, I've been hearing some

913
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: crazy rumors about teams, you know, gutting their farm system.

914
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, he has made it infinitely clear

915
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: that he would prefer to play for a West Coast

916
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 2: team and a team that is not necessarily in the spotlight, which,

917
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: by the way, eliminates the Dodgers. So it would either

918
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: turn to the west.

919
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: What West Coast team could he He could be with.

920
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 5: The Mariners, he could be with the Giants, or he

921
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: could be with the Podres.

922
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 3: The Giants don't have a big presence.

923
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so throw them out. Podres Mariners like the best

924
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: team money.

925
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: Well, you remember the Mariners there certainly have had some

926
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: you know, I can understand now if you're tell me

927
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 5: each row up there and it.

928
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: Had If you tell if you're telling me that, like

929
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: the demographics and all this stuff, okay, I can go

930
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: with Seattle under the radar art.

931
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: Why would he want to play for Seattle above the Angels.

932
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: The Angels, by the way I think, are right now

933
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 2: just a couple of games out of the Wildcard chase

934
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: have actually won, and four in a row. They're not

935
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: out of it by any stretch of the imagination. But

936
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: you don't trade. When the Yankees bought Babe Ruth from

937
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox, it changed the fortune of two

938
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: franchises forever. You don't know any of your baseball history.

939
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: The Red Sox had actually won four World Series in

940
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: the nineteen tens. Babe Ruth was a part of three

941
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: of those teams. They didn't win another World Series until

942
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: two thousand and four. Meanwhile, the Yankees had never been

943
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: to a World Series until Babe Ruth showed up. And

944
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: how did that work for the Yankees over the next

945
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: five decades. So no, you don't trade.

946
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: Show, Hey O TWI.

947
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: If I'm Artie Marino, I simply state this show hate.

948
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: Bring all the offers in six hundred million seven. Whatever

949
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: the offer is, we'll top it.

950
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: Period.

951
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: We are not going to allow the greatest baseball talent

952
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: this or any other generation to play for another team.

953
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: We will pay you, and we will continue to spend

954
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 2: money to get the right players.

955
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: What if he just doesn't want to be there. What

956
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 4: if he just doesn't want to be there. What if

957
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: he's like, you know what, this doesn't work for me.

958
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: Too many losses, not having enough fun. I appreciate the

959
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: opportunity for me to live out my dreams as a thrower,

960
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: hitter and all that, but I want to take my

961
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: talents elsewhere. I want to take it to the Pacific Northwest,

962
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: as you stated, like, I want to go to an

963
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: under the radar city where I can just be and

964
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: exist and have fun. And you know, until you throughout Seattle,

965
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: because I didn't know that it had to be a

966
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: West coast thing, like, it does make sense because I

967
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: was up that.

968
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember the each Row year.

969
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: Sure, remember his rookie season. They won one hundred and

970
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: sixteen games. He was Rookie of the Year and MVP.

971
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. He was huge up there.

972
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 5: Huge. I just I can't see it. I think I

973
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 5: think that show.

974
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Hey Otani, and again, does he strike you as a

975
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: guy that's motivated only by money?

976
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 3: No?

977
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: No, no, I agree with you.

978
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: He doesn't even Looking at the way he treated the

979
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 4: world baseball class and he talked about those things. Look,

980
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: I think some of it is about legacy, A lot

981
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: of it is about just as competitive inness, and he

982
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 4: understands how specially he is. He has an opportunity to really,

983
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: I mean looking inspire a generation of baseball players to

984
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: do like phenomenal stuff. His impact is significant, it's already

985
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 4: been that. Now he has an opportunity to maybe choose

986
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: where he wants to do it.

987
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: Now he's had this blister problem for the on the pitching.

988
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: And by the way, after a four and oh one

989
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 2: point eight e R a April, he's three and five

990
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: since then with an era well over four. So that's

991
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: the other thing you're gonna say, all right, how long

992
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: is he going to be this? I mean, if he's

993
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: going to have blister problems, that's a problem with pitchers.

994
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: If you got if you know pitchers have you always say,

995
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: can't you put there's something there for BLI not as

996
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: hard as he throws the ball, that's kind of problem

997
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: that's going to continue. Right, So that means is he

998
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: only gonna be a dh What if he becomes a

999
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: position player? Where's he gonna play and he isn't pitching?

1000
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 5: So then how much money are you gonna pay for

1001
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 5: the guy.

1002
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if we're gonna pay him half a

1003
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: billion dollars, we can get everything out of it. Put

1004
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 4: a little band aid on a little fingertip and throw

1005
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: the fastball. You can't pay him five anymore. I was

1006
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: just to hit four times and not do anything in

1007
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 4: the field.

1008
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 5: Well that's the point.

1009
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 3: He's gonna eat lunch all day.

1010
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean, any team that's trying to get him right

1011
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: now really needs him more as a pitcher than as

1012
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: a hitter. You know, there aren't many frontline pitchers of

1013
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: his caliber, and if you're a contender, not just to

1014
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: get to the postseason, But isn't pitching the biggest part

1015
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: of the postseason. Who's got the hot pitching staff? Remember

1016
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: the Nationals when they had Schurzer and you know, yeah, yeah,

1017
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: I mean so Strasburg they have the hot pitchers.

1018
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 5: So I I just I.

1019
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: Don't think that we're going to see any show. Hey,

1020
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: Otani trade like that can almost rest assure.

1021
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 4: There's not gonna a deal, which is okay, it sounds

1022
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 4: good though it gives us something to talk about.

1023
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, doesn't he a can you even imagine?

1024
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: What do you ever wonder sometimes when you watch the

1025
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: extreme athlete, the guy that just like a Tiger Woods

1026
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: or a Michael Jordan or a show Hey O Tommy,

1027
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: what it's like to be that talented.

1028
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 4: I mean, just the the pressure and the expectations all

1029
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: the time to have your game at that level.

1030
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: It has to be a lot.

1031
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I just can't imagine like the pressure that

1032
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods felt every time he had to walk on

1033
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 4: the course, right, he was not only expected to win,

1034
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: but expected to win and splendid fashion, dominant fashion, because

1035
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: that's how I kind of And then he set the

1036
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: table for us winning about six seven strokes and everything

1037
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: was like fantastic and flamboyant and all this other stuff. Yeah,

1038
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: it has to be like even now when we watch him,

1039
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: despite knowing we're all aware of all the injuries and

1040
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: those things, we still are kind of looking for, like, man,

1041
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: you know, I wonder if Tiger can turn it at

1042
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 4: the clock today and give us what we wanted.

1043
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1044
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: No, there's a lot of pressure on that. Those expectations

1045
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: are significant.

1046
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: That's it.

1047
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: That mentality.

1048
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: One thing about the Quarterback Show again, Kirk Cousins is

1049
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: really sort of the centerpiece.

1050
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 5: Mahomes is mahomes right.

1051
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: And you know, the Marcus Mariota thing fizzles because obviously

1052
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: he ends up losing his job. But they're all over

1053
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins this thing, like they have a team psychiatrist

1054
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: that he meets with all the time.

1055
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 5: And no disrespect to this guy.

1056
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's very qualified for the job that he has,

1057
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: But in the sessions that he has with Kirk Cousins,

1058
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: basically Kirk talks and the guy basically says, yes.

1059
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: You're right.

1060
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 5: Did you get into the mental aspect?

1061
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: I did?

1062
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 4: I did, doctor Richard Coope, really he was in North

1063
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: Carolina with me, and there was another sports psychologist, doctor

1064
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: Joseph Silva, who I took like a bunch of sports

1065
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: site classes. I was always fascinated by that for that part,

1066
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 4: trying to find a way to get into the zone.

1067
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1068
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: For me, Hartman, the hardest thing I always struggled with

1069
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 4: was moving on after a play, particularly if it was

1070
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 4: one where it dropped the pass or whatever, like being

1071
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 4: able to just turn the page. Hard hard for me

1072
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: to move beyond that. And so with sports psychologists, what

1073
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: you do is you try and find some tools and

1074
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: some tips to work through that. So for me, I

1075
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: just remember, because I'm sure you saw some of the things.

1076
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins should have been getting maybe a little more

1077
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 4: feedback from his guy. But we always discussed talking about

1078
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: having an imaginary waste basket over your left shoulder. So

1079
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 4: once you have a bad play, man, you just ball

1080
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: it up and just put it just put it in

1081
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 4: the waste basket and we'll sort it out after the

1082
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 4: game and so we can move on to the next play.

1083
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 4: Because it was the hardest thing, and a lot of people,

1084
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: a lot of thinkers like overthinkers. You worry about everything,

1085
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: you want all this stuff to be perfect.

1086
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: You have a little mess up, and then you go on.

1087
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 4: It's a challenge, and so I understand why quarterbacks need

1088
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 4: that extra that extra person to help them soar through

1089
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: some of those fieldings and things that they're dealing with

1090
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: on a daily basis.

1091
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: All right, on college football scene, there's a very big

1092
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: name on the college football scene that had some big

1093
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: boasts about what to expect in twenty twenty three. Little

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Speaker 2: college football update coming up. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the tai iraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Beginning to read on today's show, you know that Bucky

1098
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: and I are getting anxious for the start of the

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00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: football season. And it's not just the NFL, although for

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00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: some reason, I'm more excited about the start of this

1101
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: NFL season than I can remember so, but college football.

1102
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: Bucky is heading into really the final year of college

1103
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 2: football as we've known it for let's say the past decade.

1104
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: With the introduction of the playoff a decade ago. And

1105
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: by the way, I remember when the playoff was first announced,

1106
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: people said, well, this will create more opportunities for more

1107
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 2: schools to win a championship. And I said at the time,

1108
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: I think it's going to narrow the field even more

1109
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: than it's already been narrowed. Why because the playoff will

1110
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: give you added exposure. And so with that added exposure,

1111
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: the top players are going to go to the same schools,

1112
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: which is why we basically have had Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State.

1113
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Those three schools pretty much have dominated the appearances in

1114
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: the college football Playoff quote unquote over the past decade. Now,

1115
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: after this season in twenty twenty four, we get the

1116
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: twelve school playoff. Now if you are not familiar on

1117
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: how the teams will be selected for the twelve School

1118
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: Playoff starting in the twenty twenty four season. There are

1119
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: ten conferences currently in the FBS. The top six ranked

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00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 2: conference champions are in which is the Power five schools,

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00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: and then the next you know, group of five highest

1122
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: ranked and then it's the next six highest ranked schools

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: that are not conference champions. Now, the rankings will still

1124
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: be you know, handled by Oh that's right, Cuman.

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00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: Still, but at least and I'll acknowledge this because I've

1127
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 2: never bought into the idea that the four School Playoff

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: was anything other than a made for TV event. This

1129
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: is a legitimate playoff. It's also going to require players

1130
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: to play more, a lot more. We'll get into that

1131
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: in a second, but let's talk about the twenty twenty

1132
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: three season. Bucky Caleb Williams, your reigning Heisman Trophy winner,

1133
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: has already proclaimed that his USC Trojans will be in

1134
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,959
Speaker 2: that four School Playoff in twenty twenty three.

1135
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I appreciate his optimism.

1136
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 5: He's optimism. They have to be right.

1137
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: If he's going from the defensive side of the ball,

1138
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: I'd be more up.

1139
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 4: To leave them, but you don't, and then you just

1140
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: sit here and just think about the teams and get

1141
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: into twelve teams and next six teams that could come

1142
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: in there and just kind of mess it up. I like,

1143
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: just man, we have an opportunity to run the gauntlet,

1144
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: to go win it. Everyone doesn't have that.

1145
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: Bucky has been voicing behind the scenes a little frustration

1146
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: about Jordan Addison, not his recent run at one hundred

1147
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: and forty plus miles an hour on the freeway, which

1148
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: was not smart. He wasn't sighted, was he. I don't

1149
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: think he was even cited for that. They observed him

1150
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: going one forty in his Lamborghini on the freeway in

1151
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: a fifty five zone. But you you talked about this

1152
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: whole idea of the transfer portal, name, image, likeness, all

1153
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: the money that's being thrown around to these players. Here

1154
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: was Addison after his sophomore year in which he won

1155
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: the bullet Nikoff Award on the receiving of Kenny Pickett's platses,

1156
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: and he transfers the USC where he just became another guy.

1157
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, just another guy, just another guy, nud linz one,

1158
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: not even Eric Alfalton.

1159
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Ericolter. He was a Marquis leeve. It wasn't Robert Woods

1160
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: some of the All Americans at US. He's at it

1161
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: wide received. He was none of that whatever they call

1162
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: that wall. When you walk down the thing you see

1163
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: all the little decorated players and those things.

1164
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: You just don't.

1165
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one hundred percent healthy early in the year.

1166
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: But I mean it didn't hurt his draft stock all

1167
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: that night. I mean, you still won't be drafted high.

1168
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: He just won't be considering an all time great at USC,

1169
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: you know.

1170
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 5: No, he will not be. That's interesting.

1171
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: If he ever goes on the College Football Hall of Fame,

1172
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: he goes in as a Panther.

1173
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: I guess that's that was.

1174
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 5: His big year.

1175
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: I guess so.

1176
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: But would even nominate him mud he even put him

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: up for nomination?

1178
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1179
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: That's a long way down the road. All right, Let's

1180
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: let's just talk about though, all these changes on the

1181
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: college football scene.

1182
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: Next year.

1183
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: Obviously we're going to see Texas and Oklahoma move into

1184
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: the SEC. USC and UCLA are going to the Big Ten.

1185
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Duke and North Carolina moved to

1186
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: the Big Ten? I mean, that would be the comparable situation, right,

1187
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: of the usc UCLA leading the Pac twelve, would you

1188
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: be excited about your tar heels on the Big Ten.

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: It would be hard for me because I grew up

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00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: watching all the Carolina games on TV, m HM so

1191
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: Jefferson Pilot and all the other stuff. It'd be hard

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 4: for me to then come over in Washington playing in

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00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: the Big Ten against teams and from the uniforms with

1194
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: your jerseys.

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Speaker 3: It takes a while, but we figured.

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Speaker 2: Out, all right, let's ask you this because I was

1197
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: hearing our buddies LeVar Arrington and I think it was TJ.

1198
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Huschman Zad of course went to Oregon State, LA guy

1199
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, the usc UCLA going into the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten.

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Speaker 5: LeVar Arrington was just, you.

1202
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: Know, as a Big Ten guy, just going off like

1203
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: they're go ahead, they have no chance in that conference.

1204
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: But what are the challenges for these West Coast schools

1205
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: having to play several games I would imagine during the

1206
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: course of their season in the Midwest in you know, November.

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 4: Let's say, it's gonna be a huge challenge because you

1208
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: have to adjust, like you've built your team to play

1209
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: in certain stadiums against certain type teams, and now you've

1210
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: got to get ready to play big tens, smash mouth football,

1211
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: even though you're not really familiar with that, and it

1212
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: changes everything because every conference, every school that you face,

1213
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: they do have a style. And are you capable of

1214
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 4: switching your stuff up to this?

1215
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: But doesn't it work both ways? Okay?

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're going to be playing a team maybe

1218
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: with a physical style you're not used to. But they

1219
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: never seen a passing attack like yours. I don't see

1220
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: a lot of Caleb Williams throwing the ball. Now Ohio

1221
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: State's throwing the ball a lot. And obviously they've had

1222
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: some talented quarterbacks. Very few of them have translated that

1223
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: talent into the NFL. But I think that works both ways. Look,

1224
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: I always looked at it this way. In the Pac twelve,

1225
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: you know, when the southern California schools had to go

1226
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: up to play Oregon and Washington in pouring rain.

1227
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: That's that's that's.

1228
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: A different weather pattern than they have in southern California

1229
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: for sure, and they would struggle. See thatt On Eugene

1230
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: were not places you wanted to.

1231
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Speaker 3: Go a yeah, no.

1232
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Speaker 5: Bad, bad flashbacks Caleb Williams.

1233
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: The truth, it's a real deal.

1234
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 4: He's exactly what you want in a franchise quarterback in

1235
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 4: today's game. Super athletic, great arm talent, has clutch ability.

1236
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 4: We've seen him throw darts in the clutch, has ability

1237
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 4: rally his team from behind.

1238
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: We saw it how he executed.

1239
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: All those things. So I'm all for him being the

1240
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 4: number one guy. I think the one thing that he

1241
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 4: has to display is can he stay locked in and

1242
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: interested over the kind of fade because when you get

1243
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: this last season after you want it, you might kind

1244
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: of go all over the place.

1245
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: So he just wants to.

1246
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: Well, my first year impression of Lincoln Riley at USC

1247
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: was it became Oklahoma West, right, weren't they an absolute

1248
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: copy of his teams at Oklahoma where they could put up,

1249
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: you know, extraordinary offensive numbers.

1250
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 5: Where's the defense?

1251
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Same decordinator, Yeah.

1252
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: Same defensive coordinator. So if you're USC, you need to

1253
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: check he's that mentality. Yes, what do you got here, Sam?

1254
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 9: Well, it's uh Alex grinch Wright the decoordinator.

1255
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1256
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've heard it's not just an issue with him,

1257
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 9: it's also I've heard from people who follow USC closely

1258
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 9: that there's just a lack of conditioning there's a lack

1259
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 9: of physicality on the defense, there's a lack there's a

1260
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 9: lack of I mean when they come to the Big ten,

1261
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 9: there's going to be an issue with line play. I

1262
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 9: mean they're going to get pushed around because they're not

1263
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 9: conditioned enough.

1264
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: No conditioning, they're not doing enough.

1265
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 9: No, no, no, it's not that they're it's they're conditioned. They're

1266
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 9: they're great athletes, they have the talent. It's uh, maybe

1267
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 9: the I don't know, for lack of.

1268
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: A that's tough enough. That's what you sent in that tough,

1269
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: tough enough.

1270
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 9: The toughness to lack toughness sixty minutes battling.

1271
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 4: So a little backstory on this, Hartman, I don't know

1272
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: if you remember a couple of years ago in the

1273
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 4: bowl game, uh, the Iowa Hawk as I then took

1274
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 4: on the USC and then so I feel like maybe.

1275
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 9: No, this wasn't listening with Carol was running USC. They

1276
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 9: had the talent and they had the toughness.

1277
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good thing.

1278
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 4: But now because I took them to this ship and

1279
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 4: beat them up, and the only sees them as a

1280
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 4: bunch of powder puffs.

1281
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: No, I just see like, like, look at the equipped.

1282
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 9: Look at the bull game, equipped the Tulane offense them

1283
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 9: and they lost to Tulane.

1284
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 2: Here's where my Here's where Lebar lost me this morning

1285
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: because I'm listening right. So he's making this argument that

1286
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: when you play, let's say the SEC, you got a

1287
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: couple of teams to look at, like George Alabama, but

1288
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten loaded from top to bottom.

1289
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: I like, really no, I mean, by the way, you.

1290
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: Know, Pat's Pat Fitzgerald was fired partly because of obviously

1291
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: what's been going on off the field, but also the

1292
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: fact that they were, oh, I don't know, one and

1293
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: eleven this last year. I mean, if if Northwestern had

1294
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: had a nine win season, maybe they was still found

1295
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: a way around firing this guy. Don't give me that.

1296
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Ohio State, Michigan. What is the

1297
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: drop off, Bucky Brooks, don't interfere me, mister Iowa. What

1298
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 2: is the drop off talent wise in the Big Ten?

1299
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: Once you get past Ohio State and.

1300
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: Michigan, So you have I would say it's three. It's

1301
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 4: Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. Then after that you

1302
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: have you.

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: Think Penn State's at the level of Ohio State, and Michigan.

1304
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I think so. I think we look at their

1305
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: personnel and their players. Now they haven't put.

1306
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: On the field, but like quietly they they have guys.

1307
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: They have dudes, like they look at draft, they're putting

1308
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 4: putting them up there. So I think there's those three,

1309
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 4: and then after that you have your Wisconsin's, you have

1310
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 4: your Iowa's they can get down.

1311
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 3: You have Minnesota. Then people about team like they will

1312
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: push it around. You have some of those things. And

1313
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: so yes, it's it's a.

1314
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: Are you going to buy into the LeVar Arrington narrative

1315
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: that the bigger Big Ten is deeper talent wise?

1316
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: In the SEC, it's not deeper.

1317
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 4: But I would say right now confidently that they're the

1318
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: second the second best conference out there because the Big

1319
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: the Big twelve. For all the fun that we in

1320
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 4: joy looking at their games in the afternoon, Uh, their

1321
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: guys aren't going to the pros. On defense, there's a

1322
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 4: lot of guys that are just running around.

1323
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 5: Who's getting the better duo?

1324
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: The SEC with Texas and Oklahoma or the Big Ten

1325
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: with USC and u c L A SEC.

1326
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 9: Good question.

1327
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: SEC. He didn't even hesitate.

1328
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: I agree, because like we're talking about two for one,

1329
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 4: and even though we can we can sit here and

1330
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: talk about it like the Longhorns are always going to

1331
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 4: be overrated because everybody wants Texas to be back. I

1332
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: don't think they're back yet, but Sarks trying, he is tried,

1333
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 4: blessed us herd. But Oklahoma is still legitimate. They're they're

1334
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 4: well wait a minute now, because last year they were

1335
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 4: terrible undevenables.

1336
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Thevenables took a shot at and they still

1337
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 9: go eight and five?

1338
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: They did, they go six and six? I think they might.

1339
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: How does that translate into the SEC?

1340
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: See?

1341
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: The funny thing is, remember when A and M went

1342
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: to the SEC and Missouri went to the SEC. They

1343
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: had immediate's success made both of them did zoom made

1344
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: and they haven't had suc sex since. How they made

1345
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: that and they immediately had success both those schools and.

1346
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: M had some success. They still haven't wanted to go THEND.

1347
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: Johnny football, I mean, Johnny football was terrific, phenomenal. All right,

1348
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 2: let's find out what's trending right now, let's get let's

1349
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: get beefed into this conversation. All right, Fainly, you have

1350
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: some serious ties to my school, U C l A.

1351
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 5: My mom went there. Yeah, and you've done work for

1352
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 5: u c l A over the years. Sure have you

1353
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 5: wrapped your brain around this idea of.

1354
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: U c l A and USC and the Big ten.

1355
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 8: No, it's it's still a feeling of dumbness. Then it's

1356
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 8: not actually happening. And I think what's going to be

1357
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 8: the most interesting part of this is the whole traveling

1358
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 8: situation for these teams.

1359
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 5: I just literally, you're gonna blow a whole week.

1360
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 8: When you go out to the Midwest, because this is

1361
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 8: not a quick trip to the Bay Area or a

1362
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 8: quick puddle jumper, if you will, as far as a

1363
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 8: flight time to Arizona. These are going to be full

1364
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 8: on weeks that you're going to carve out there. That

1365
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 8: to me is mind boggling.

1366
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: USC's rivalry of a Notre Dame over the years, So

1367
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: they would alternate going to South Bend and coming to LA.

1368
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: The South Bend game was always in October, and then

1369
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 2: the LA game was at the end of the year

1370
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: in November. But that there was a reason why they

1371
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: didn't go to South Bend in November, and it was like, no,

1372
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: we're not. I mean it could be, you know, bad

1373
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: weather in October, but it's going to be considerably better

1374
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: than it is in November in South Bend. But yeah,

1375
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: I mean imagine scheduling, Like let's say sc has back

1376
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: to back road games now where they have to play

1377
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State in Wisconsin or you know, Michigan and Iowa.

1378
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 5: How's that gonna wink?

1379
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 8: Why would you even go back to LA I would

1380
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 8: think you would just bring a bunch of tutors.

1381
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 5: What if the weather sucks, where are you going to practice?

1382
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 8: There's enough, I would think, and Bucky would know there's

1383
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 8: probably enough indoor facilities in the Midwest, even if it's

1384
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 8: a big high school in the area, where they can

1385
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 8: find some sort of deal where they can carve out time,

1386
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 8: because it makes no sense to come back and then

1387
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 8: fly back out there, and if you're going back to

1388
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 8: back on the back.

1389
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 9: Say nice weather, they go back to the Midwest.

1390
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 3: I think. But but like, here's the thing we're still

1391
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: talking about. Students. Yeah, they have to have to say classes,

1392
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: I know have gone.

1393
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 4: You can't just have them out there just meandering around

1394
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 4: Chicago waiting for the next big ten game, you know,

1395
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it's a different thing. I mean,

1396
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 4: I know those deep pockets that Hartman is over there,

1397
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: probably willing to fund the weekend or the week staye.

1398
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 5: Rockets are dwindling by the second.

1399
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 8: You know, Well, that's why you bring the school like

1400
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 8: a travel bus. You bring a bunch of tutors, You've

1401
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 8: got a bunch of advisors with you.

1402
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 9: These schools, I think at least get the short end

1403
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 9: of the stick with this deal.

1404
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Rymond. They get a big ten money

1405
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 3: coming in. Maybe they maybe it's gonna become.

1406
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 9: At a massive inconvenience for them.

1407
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: So if they add back to back, so the second

1408
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: ones against Iowa, you think Kirk Farrence would open up

1409
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 2: their indoor practice facilities practice in there.

1410
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 9: I think they're gonna have to go up to Cedar

1411
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 9: Falls and practice in the Unidome. By the way, I'm sorry,

1412
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 9: I know this is Brian Finley's update here, but I

1413
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 9: did check. Oklahoma went six and seven last year. They

1414
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 9: lost their bowl game, so I was off off by

1415
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 9: a few games there.

1416
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 4: And they poked a bear with Dion. Venables poked the

1417
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 4: bear with Dion.

1418
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, Venables better get venerable.

1419
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: And that's another story. I mean, I tell you what,

1420
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 2: I'm a Dion Fan. I love Dion love theon. They

1421
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: got nothing in Colorado, I mean nothing, he is, he

1422
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 2: is in for a shot.

1423
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 8: Why isn't he showing up at pac told media did

1424
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 8: I understand he's got the foot thing.

1425
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 6: But the.

1426
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: Class ye had to have a procedure done.

1427
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: What's he gonna say? I mean, I hope everyone wants

1428
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: to talk to him.

1429
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean he's.

1430
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 5: Got yeah, I mean he's got health issues.

1431
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 8: But I would think that there would have to be

1432
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 8: some way for you to have I guess it's a

1433
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 8: one day event, so you have a shooting target there

1434
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 8: that you have to hit.

1435
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 5: As far as the target.

1436
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 8: As to who is going to be winning the Open Championship, well,

1437
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 8: it looks as if Brian Harmon is in great position

1438
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 8: here twelve under through three rounds at the.

1439
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 5: Royal Liverpool Golf Course.

1440
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 8: Twelve under as mentioned two hunter today, five shot lead

1441
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 8: over solo second Cameron Young. John Rahm is in the

1442
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 8: thicke of things in contention six shots behind in solo third,

1443
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 8: thanks in large part to the eight under he fired today,

1444
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 8: carded a sixty three to get himself in striking distance.

1445
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 8: Baseball games are happening, Freddie Freeman has hit home runs

1446
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 8: nineteen and twenty for the Dodgers and they are crushing

1447
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 8: the Texas Rangers. Currently ten to one is the score

1448
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 8: bottom of the fifth and Texas also announcing that they're

1449
01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 8: all start short style.

1450
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 5: Corey Seeger is going to be put on.

1451
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 8: The ten day injured list with a springed thumb. A

1452
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 8: rain delay for a second time in the Cubs Cardinals game,

1453
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 8: so that stopped things in the bottom of the seventh,

1454
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 8: eight to six favoring Chicago. The Reds just one hit

1455
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 8: into the bottom of the sixth and they're trailing the

1456
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 8: cub Or excuse me, the Diamondbacks one to nothing. Orioles

1457
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 8: have done the only scoring in their game against the

1458
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 8: Race five to nothing. Top of the sixth, Tampa with

1459
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 8: only one hit to show four and some finals. Lastly,

1460
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 8: to get to the Yankees cross off the Royals.

1461
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: Five to two.

1462
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 8: Dj Lemayhew hit a home run, so did John Carlos

1463
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,959
Speaker 8: Stanton and the Rocky slip past the Cardinals four to three,

1464
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 8: and they do it with a go ahead run in

1465
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 8: the ninth inning. With that, let's get it back to

1466
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 8: Steve Hartman and Bucky Brooks.

1467
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 5: All right, be fan, thank you very much.

1468
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: All right.

1469
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're going to well,

1470
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: I gotta have the latest on the Aaron Rodgers situation

1471
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: because now he spoke going out about his tenure coming

1472
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: up with the New York Jets, and I think it's

1473
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: time for people to take a step back and understand

1474
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: exactly what Aaron Rodgers brings or doesn't bring to the

1475
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: Jets organization that coming out.

1476
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 5: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

1477
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, Bucky Brooks, Fox Sports Saturday. We are live

1478
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: from the tiraq dot com studios. Aaron Rodgers is going

1479
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: to be a Jet? Anybody here about that? Oh, that's right.

1480
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: We're hearing NonStop about Aaron Rodgers being a Jet. And

1481
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that believe that Aaron

1482
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: Rodgers is going to do for the Jets what Tom

1483
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: Brady did for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let me, let me,

1484
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: let me remind everyone again of what Tom Brady's resume

1485
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: was going to Tampa Bay versus Aaron Rodgers to the Jets.

1486
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady when he went to Tampa Bay had been

1487
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: to nine Super Bowls and won six. Aaron Rodgers going

1488
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: into the Jets's web one Super Bowl appearance and one win.

1489
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 2: Can I just start right there, Bucky, with why it

1490
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: is that Aaron Rodgers has only been to one Super Bowl.

1491
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 4: I mean, you know a lot of people will make

1492
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 4: excuses for Aaron Rodgers and say he didn't have the

1493
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 4: support around him, he didn't have these things. But to me,

1494
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 4: when you look at Aaron Rodgers, if you are what

1495
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 4: everyone says he is, four time MVP All timer, someone

1496
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 4: worthy of being talent wise, in a goat conversation, they

1497
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 4: should have been able to get, not even win a

1498
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 4: super Bowl. They should have been able to reach another

1499
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 4: super Bowl. And then let's think about in the last

1500
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 4: three years. Two of those years they hadn't number one.

1501
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 4: See they're ready. I mean they at thirteen win teams.

1502
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: And remind me again, for the majority of that time,

1503
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: he didn't have to go through Tom Brady or Peyton

1504
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: Manning or Ben Roethlisberger to get to the super Bowl.

1505
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 4: Right, No, I'm trying to think who's the top quarterback

1506
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: in NFC outside of him?

1507
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 3: Who is his rival? Yeah?

1508
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 2: So, I mean, if anything, he had a much clearer

1509
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: path to get to the super Bowl every year because

1510
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 2: he didn't have to go up against Tom Brady, or

1511
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning during those years and he still made it

1512
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: to one Drew Brees, who also only made it to

1513
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: one Super Bowl one win. So the idea that he

1514
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: is landed with the Jets and we're ready to go,

1515
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: and they're ready to you know, punch their ticket to

1516
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: their first Super Bowl appearance in fifty five years.

1517
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: So a lot of things going to be in play

1518
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 4: with the Jets. For one, because now they're the team

1519
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 4: that is featured on Hot Knocks.

1520
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 5: Great, But the other is a great what are we

1521
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 5: going to see?

1522
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't see anything because they're limiting access.

1523
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 4: They're not given the same access other teams have had.

1524
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 4: We won't get the access that the Lions had a

1525
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 4: year ago.

1526
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, you know, if you watch Hard

1527
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: Knocks over the years, it's the same storyline over and

1528
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: over again. They pick some random guy and they basically

1529
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: follow him until the Turk shows up to tell him

1530
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 2: he's gone. Right, That's that's pretty much the storyline. The

1531
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 2: Jets have already said we're not going to do that,

1532
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: so that that storyline is out.

1533
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 3: So we're not gonna we're not gonna watch any cuts.

1534
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 4: We're not gonna have the Cameron in the office and

1535
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 4: we say, man, it might be time to get onto

1536
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 4: you know, life's next chapter for you.

1537
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you to me. The second most interesting

1538
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: guy to me behind the Jets starting quarterback is their

1539
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. H right, yeah, Zach Wilson. I mean I

1540
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,839
Speaker 2: would be interested to see the whole Zach Wilson story

1541
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: in training camp, from second overall pick to benched.

1542
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 4: And not only bench bench, to the point where your

1543
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 4: defensive teammates are wearing.

1544
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 3: Backups T shirt. His name is on their T shirt.

1545
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 3: Like that is so discussed.

1546
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: Was a young quarterback alien eate to locker room as

1547
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: quickly as Zach Wilson did?

1548
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 4: He just couldn't read the room, man, Like whatever he

1549
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: was talking about to discuss, he just couldn't read the room.

1550
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 4: Because the fact that they number two overall and we're

1551
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 4: talking about I mean, geez, backups and try out guys

1552
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 4: and everything else, and then they're gonna have to go

1553
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 4: draft another one.

1554
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: What would you say is a realistic projection of the

1555
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: Jets twenty twenty three season. What is a realistic projection

1556
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: for this team?

1557
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 3: How about ten and seven?

1558
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 4: Realistically, we can get to ten if Aaron Rodgers's healthy,

1559
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 4: do that they'll win. They'll win ten because they'll come out,

1560
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 4: they'll operate at a faster clip on offense the ball

1561
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 4: to get out of his hands.

1562
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: How much could the Jets use Dalvin Cook? You got

1563
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: Breese Hall, but he got hurt as a rookie. We

1564
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: know he has talent. He might have been offensive rookie.

1565
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: Your already not gotten hurt. Got Michael Carter there.

1566
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you certainly could use Devin Cook because when

1567
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 4: went in doubt, when you're playing these rough and breaking games,

1568
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 4: you need someone to have some experience. A couple of

1569
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 4: pelts on the wall kind of been knocked around a

1570
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 4: little bit. So yeah, I would say, hmm, yeah, I

1571
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 4: mean I couldn't.

1572
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 5: Think so Aaron Rodgers. You're saying, is he's no Mark Sanchez.

1573
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: Ooh, but fumble who got his different to the AFC

1574
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: Championship game, winning four road games in two years. The

1575
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: people have forgotten that about people after Mark Sanchez. People

1576
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 2: have forgotten that about Mark Sanchez. But what is different?

1577
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers does not step into the same defense that

1578
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 2: my god was in.

1579
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 3: So it's a little different.

1580
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no d Reeves, There, no no, no resiling.

1581
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 3: We got sauce.

1582
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: Sauce, he's the Is he not the best corner in

1583
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: the league right now, even after one season's better than him?

1584
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 8: No?

1585
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he has everything.

1586
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 4: He has the size, he has, the length, he has,

1587
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 4: the dog in him, he has the athletics and physical traits,

1588
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 4: all those things that you want. A great character kid.

1589
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: When it comes to his teammates and those things hard

1590
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: to find. Something desk, you won't say negative about him.

1591
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 4: He's really an outstanding.

1592
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 3: Clear Is Dalvin Cook going to be a Jet? It

1593
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: may be a nice fit if he's there.

1594
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 4: I mean, but you, I mean, you talk about a

1595
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: very crowded backfield breeshall that's trying to work his tail

1596
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 4: off to come back from knee injury. So now you're

1597
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 4: taking carries out of his hands.

1598
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've invested in Aaron Rodgers, who, by the way,

1599
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: said it would be a disservice for the Jets having

1600
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 2: given up as much as they did to get him

1601
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: to play just one year. He did have one little

1602
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: caveat though, He said, unless it's an incredible season, like

1603
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 2: if the Jets win the Super Bowl, then yeah, I

1604
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: did my job and I'm out of here, and I honestly,

1605
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame him if that miracle were to actually happen.

1606
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: But I think that's fair. I don't think he would

1607
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: like to see, you know, a couple of years how

1608
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: this thing would work out.

1609
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we'll see it.

1610
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 4: All sounds good now until you start getting hit and

1611
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 4: laid on and all this other stuff. So right now

1612
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 4: sounds great. Got another year to kind of chase his

1613
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: own dreams, but.

1614
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 2: He should be ready. This is going to be interesting.

1615
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: Say I'm trying to get a read on you, Bucky.

1616
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: Are you an Aaron Rodgers fan?

1617
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 3: Respect to talent? I think he's great.

1618
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of him and what he did

1619
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 4: in Green Bay because I felt like he tore up

1620
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 4: that organization with this antics and stuff.

1621
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 5: But he'll be a different guy in New York.

1622
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 4: Right He's already proven to be a little bit of

1623
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 4: a different guy. He's taking his teammates out and doing

1624
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 4: all the things that you would like to do with

1625
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: your teammates to build camaraderie. So he has shown a

1626
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 4: willingness to do that, but he has navigated some things.

1627
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 2: We're four weeks into the season. Buffalo's four and Oh,

1628
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: Miami is three and one. New England's two and two.

1629
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: The Jets are one and three. How's he going to react?

1630
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh, he's gonna have a tough time. It's gonna be

1631
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: hard on him. And then he's gonna have the ground

1632
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: because New York is different.

1633
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 5: And the media will be all over him. All right,

1634
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 5: we'll continue on.

1635
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: By the way, Adam Kaplan, our Fox Sports Radio NFL

1636
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1637
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1653
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 5: Going to find out about his.

1654
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: Route that he's going to be taking through NFL training camps.

1655
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: You don't know your schedule yet, do you.

1656
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 4: Bucky, No, still putting it together, but I know I

1657
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 4: have a few visits to Minnesota. Minneapolis, I'll see the

1658
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 4: vikingsh your guy, Kirk Cousins and yeah, kind of figured out.

1659
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love you need to see quarterback, Okay,

1660
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: I'll make sure because when you see quarterback. Kirk Cousins

1661
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 2: is a big part of this because of that miracle

1662
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: season they had last year. You know, eleven to zero

1663
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: and one score games never been done in the history

1664
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: of the NFL. They were thirteen and four last year

1665
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: and got outscored over the course of the season, which

1666
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: seems impossible if you do the math, but they actually

1667
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: gave up more points than they scored last year and

1668
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: still ended up thirteen and four.

1669
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you are just trying to get

1670
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 4: the dub and it doesn't matter when you lose and

1671
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 4: just say this, they blow us all the way out,

1672
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: and maybe that has something to do it.

1673
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 3: They had so many miracle wins, no question about it.

1674
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh they did.

1675
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 4: That's why we expect them to come back to the

1676
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 4: back this year. That's what that would be the natural expectation.

1677
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 5: Hey, Chris has jumped on the board.

1678
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: Gives us an opportunity to do a little football update.

1679
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 2: As you know, the Women's World Cup is underway. The

1680
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: United States is trying to become the first country, either

1681
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: men or women, to win three consecutive World Cups. No

1682
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: men's team has ever done it. Brazil won three out

1683
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: of four fifty eight to sixty two and seventy, but

1684
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: not three in a row. Chris, I'm trying to get

1685
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: a read here on the United States opening match against Vietnam.

1686
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: They won by a score three to nil. But here's

1687
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: here's the stat that really got to me. Shots on goal.

1688
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: Listen to this one, Bucky. The United States had twenty

1689
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: eight shots on goal. Vietnam had zero, zero, zero. So

1690
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out this defense. Either it's the

1691
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: most incredible defense ever or the question is how did

1692
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: Vietnam qualify to be in the World Cup if they

1693
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: can and even generate a single shot on goal in

1694
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: an entire match.

1695
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 10: Well, very carefully, it's my usual joke for that, but

1696
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 10: I will say this like, I don't know how it

1697
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 10: is for the women's side, but I do know that

1698
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 10: because you have to take X number of countries from

1699
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 10: individual regions. Asia tends to be very it's not a

1700
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 10: deep region outside of Japan, who is wonderful in the

1701
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 10: women's game. I don't think a lot of them really

1702
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 10: perform at a very high level, and Vietnam certainly doesn't.

1703
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 10: Before they came into this as well, they also had

1704
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 10: a game where they got shot on I think it

1705
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 10: was like nine to Nihli. So they've been coming in

1706
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 10: on the bad side of this. Now you mentioned those

1707
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 10: was it twenty six shots on goal twenty eight for

1708
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 10: the Unities, zero for Vietnam. Now I believe only eight

1709
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 10: of those were quality shots on goal as well. So

1710
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 10: this has always been described as kind of the tune

1711
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 10: up game for the women's team, especially they got to

1712
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 10: get their older, their veteran parts working with some of

1713
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 10: the younger women like Alyssa Thompson, Sophia Smith who had

1714
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 10: two goals, and Trinity Ben's Trinity Rodman, who is the

1715
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 10: daughter of Dennis Rodman. So like they they have the Netherlands,

1716
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 10: and they fought the Netherlands four years ago in the

1717
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 10: Women's World Cup final that time, so this is absolutely

1718
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 10: too not for them.

1719
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: But yeah.

1720
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so no, it's not a great country.

1721
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,839
Speaker 2: So actually, when I say shots, that's twenty eight shots,

1722
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 2: seven on.

1723
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 5: Goal for the United States. Yes, does that sound right?

1724
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: Yes, So that means twenty twenty five percent of their

1725
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: shots were actually shots on goal.

1726
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 5: Here's the thing about Vietnam. One hundred percent of their

1727
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 5: shots were on goal.

1728
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: Zero for zero, so that was zero percent. And then

1729
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: we had the Messy goal in his MLS debut. So

1730
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about this and I don't want to just

1731
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: take shots at Major League Soccer. But I think that

1732
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: most football fans recognize that Major League soccer is not

1733
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: of anywhere near the caliber of what we see in Europe.

1734
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: And we understand that. So when you get a guy

1735
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: like Messy, and we've obviously had major stars, usually at

1736
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 2: the back end of their careers, come in the mlscap

1737
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 2: paid a huge amount of money. It gives us an

1738
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: opportunity to see these superstars. How much, Chris, I'm asking

1739
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: the you of this again, what do we gain on

1740
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: this whole Messy thing. I mean, he makes a lot

1741
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: of money. It's exciting to see this guy play. But

1742
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: I remember when Beckham came to the United States. You

1743
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 2: know it was sort of a hit and miss situation

1744
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: where there was a lot of excitement initially, but then

1745
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: the reality that you know he was he was more

1746
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: of a setup guy than he was a goal scorer.

1747
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: That it didn't ultimately have as great an impact as

1748
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought it was going to have.

1749
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 10: So I would say the impact is going to be

1750
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 10: bigger number one, because Lionel Messi is a far bigger

1751
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 10: star than Beckham number two in that he I believe

1752
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 10: he could have signed another contract somewhere in Europe at

1753
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 10: the place, at the pace he was playing. Sure he's

1754
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 10: not one of these guys who are on their last

1755
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 10: contract who come over here.

1756
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1757
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 10: Absolutely, And I believe that beca I mean Messi, excuse me,

1758
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 10: being a Spanish speaking individual, being someone from South America

1759
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 10: and going to a city like Miami has a much

1760
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 10: greater impact in that regard.

1761
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 5: There there is almost.

1762
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 10: Half a billion people who follow Leonel Messi on Instagram,

1763
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 10: and the man's walking around into Publix last week in

1764
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 10: Miami to get himself a chicken tender, bub sub or whatever.

1765
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 10: So like he's already endeared himself in a very fantastic

1766
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 10: way in this goal. I don't usually see things break

1767
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 10: into the Women's World Cup, but a lot of the

1768
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 10: soccer counts I followed stopped and looked over and saw it. Wait,

1769
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 10: Leonel Messi scored what was basically a buzzer beater game

1770
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 10: winning goal against Cruz Azul in the League's Cup, just

1771
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 10: on a free kick, but it was he just the

1772
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 10: way he did it, that light touch, tapping over the

1773
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 10: head right to the corner where the keeper can't get it, Like,

1774
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 10: that's prime messy, that's prime messy to see him do it.

1775
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna be doing against.

1776
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 10: MLS and he's going to be doing in the League's

1777
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 10: Cup against Mexican teams as well. But it's messy and

1778
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 10: messy itself carries a lot of power, especially in this

1779
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 10: age where him and Rinaldo both have staying power. But

1780
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 10: we're not really putting on Rinaldo's games unless it's for

1781
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 10: unless it's for the highlights on Sports Center. We're putting

1782
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 10: on Messi's games though, and Apple TV has a vast

1783
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 10: interest in pushing Lionel Messi as well, and the streaming.

1784
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: Bark when you talk about MLS and look, the MLS

1785
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 2: is here to stay. We know that I also know this.

1786
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 2: Their constant expansion in the league in a lot of

1787
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: ways shows you it's a house of cards. They need

1788
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: constant infusion of money through expansion teams to sort of

1789
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 2: keep everything together.

1790
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 5: At the rate they're going, they're gonna have about one hundred.

1791
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: Teams in the MLS at some point here. But that

1792
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: being set because we've been hearing that. I've been hearing

1793
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 2: this my whole life. Really, well, let's go back to

1794
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: the seventies for those of us to remember the seventies,

1795
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 2: the hype for soccer, when Pele joined the Cosmos and

1796
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, they've got sixty thousand fans, you thought, all right,

1797
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: here we go, and that league ultimately folded, And the

1798
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 2: MLS is not going to fold because well, at least yet.

1799
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 5: But I just wonder, do you believe but that we're

1800
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 5: ever going.

1801
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: To see soccer football ray rise to the level in

1802
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 2: this country anywhere near where.

1803
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 3: It is the rest of the world.

1804
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I don't think we will because our best athletes

1805
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 4: aren't participating in soccer, and so our best athletes here

1806
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 4: are playing basketball, they're playing football, they're playing other sports.

1807
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 4: And whether it's access, whether it's maybe a cultural thing.

1808
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 4: Soccer hasn't clicked with that faction of folks and was unfortunate,

1809
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 4: like Odell Beckham Junior was in the soccer pipeline before

1810
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 4: we decided to become a football player. Like imagine seeing

1811
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: that kind of athlete where you could celebrate and watch them.

1812
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 4: And so as much as the young people love playing

1813
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 4: FIFA and doing all these things video games and how

1814
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 4: they get excited about it, it still hasn't translated into

1815
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 4: direct participation with I would call our a level class

1816
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 4: of athletes.

1817
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 10: I would agree with that, and I think again part

1818
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 10: of that is is that a lot of this is

1819
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 10: funneled through travel soccer, which has as you said, it's

1820
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 10: a massive overcost sometimes thousands a month for families to

1821
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 10: participate in that. And yeah, I think a lot of

1822
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 10: the hope for soccer has always leaned on the Latin

1823
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 10: population growing. But as you say, like this, this is

1824
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 10: a sport that is supposed to be the world's game

1825
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 10: because it's easy to access and in this country we've

1826
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 10: kind of financially paywallted, which and combine that with college

1827
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 10: soccer being what it is, which is it's not a

1828
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 10: terrible thing. But I've always heard complaints about you know,

1829
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 10: we don't really have the academy system like they have

1830
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 10: in Europe and ultimate lead college soccer funnels a lot

1831
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 10: of kids through these schemes, schemes rather than actual play

1832
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 10: athletic ability, which wealthy hampers them long term.

1833
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: As Bucky said, in most of these countries, when you

1834
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: identify your great young athletes, they're steered into soccer. And

1835
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: if we had our best athletes playing this sport, we

1836
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 2: would dominate. Simple, we would dominate. Imagine like a young

1837
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Reggie Bush, you know that kind of

1838
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: an athlete instead of playing football if he had played.

1839
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 4: So it has to be an effort to bring those

1840
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 4: athletes to the table and access is everything?

1841
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 3: All right?

1842
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 5: Coming up on the other side, we're going to get

1843
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 5: back to some NFL news. We are just weeks away.

1844
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 5: When is training camp actually open?

1845
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: What do we get?

1846
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 4: What would give me a timetable here, Buck, I mean

1847
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 4: it was open now we got people going in.

1848
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 5: All right, So there already the doors are open.

1849
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: That means it's time to catch up with our Fox

1850
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan Up next, Steve Harvin

1851
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 2: and Bucky Brooks. Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming in live

1852
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, we

1853
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 2: are seeing bodies drift into training camps. It is that time,

1854
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen to get a read on what's going

1855
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 2: to transpire over the course of the twenty twenty three

1856
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: NFL season. Joining us right now as our Fox Sports

1857
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. All right, Adam, have you

1858
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 2: been watching the Netflix series Quarterback.

1859
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 6: No, I've heard of it. Now, I've not gone through yet,

1860
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 6: but I've heard a lot of good things.

1861
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: About all Right, so I've been watching it. I've seen

1862
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 2: six of the first well there's eight episodes. I've seen six.

1863
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 2: It's a Peyton Manning production. It focuses on the quarterback.

1864
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 5: By the way.

1865
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 2: He makes sure to tell you that quarterback is the

1866
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 2: most challenging position in the entire world, talking about all

1867
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: the studies and the physical breakdown everything else. I get

1868
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 2: that part of it. Here's the thing, though, I'm watching

1869
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: this and ah, you talk about reving me up for

1870
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 2: this NFL season.

1871
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just.

1872
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 2: A reminder again, not just the game, the nature of

1873
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 2: the sport, but everything around the sport and the great

1874
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: thing about working in the NFL. Is that idea that

1875
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: you had a week to prepare for each game, and

1876
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: whether you were a player or a media relations guy

1877
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 2: like me putting together game brokens, whatever, it is, that

1878
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 2: week of preparation for the game. The build up every

1879
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 2: single week to me is what sets football apart from

1880
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 2: every other sport.

1881
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's eighteen one week seasons. You're right, there's the

1882
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 6: anticipation for each game is even for the regular season,

1883
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 6: it's pretty high, and obviously depending on which fan base

1884
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 6: and what the rivalry is, it even takes it up

1885
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 6: a notch. Yeah, there's no question about in fact that

1886
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 6: you could see it when you go to training camp

1887
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 6: when there's a new head coach or there's a big

1888
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 6: time free agent. I remember two thousand and four being

1889
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 6: at Charle Owen's first practice at Lehigh University with Eagles.

1890
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 6: Ten thousand people, folks, ten thousand folks were there, guys,

1891
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 6: and it was incredible. The atmosphere I've been to, I've

1892
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 6: been to training camps and there was a trade going on.

1893
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,839
Speaker 6: The NFL is unlike any everything else because they're only

1894
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 6: eighteen weeks and your seventeen game season, whereas you got

1895
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty two in baseball. It's a much different.

1896
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Story, much different story.

1897
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 4: But let's stay with that because this kind of takes

1898
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 4: me to the news of the week, which has been

1899
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 4: the conversation about the running backs and the devaluation, or

1900
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 4: maybe the reported devaluation. What was really going on with

1901
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs. Why couldn't they get long term

1902
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 4: deals done?

1903
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 6: The problem that I gather from looking into this situation

1904
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 6: like you could no matter what team you talk to.

1905
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 6: It's like, Okay, well, we're going to meet you at

1906
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 6: your average per season that you want or that you'll

1907
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 6: accept that both sides could agree on. But we're not

1908
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 6: going to guarantee you fully two years. Like the first

1909
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 6: year is going to be fully guaranteed because it's it's

1910
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 6: off the tag. The second year, yeah, we'll give you

1911
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 6: a partial guarantee, but we're not going to guarantee you

1912
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 6: another fourteen million to give you anywhere between twenty two

1913
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 6: and twenty four million at signing. We're not going to

1914
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 6: guarantee that type of money and give you the average

1915
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 6: per year you want. But yet, Christian McCaffrey does a

1916
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 6: deal a while back that average is sixteen and a

1917
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 6: half million, which was seeing I could tell you around

1918
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 6: the league was seeing as an outlier. Was it was

1919
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 6: definitely shocking at the time, but hey, he got a

1920
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 6: great deal. No one's got close to that now. By

1921
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 6: the way, that deal was over three years ago, and

1922
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 6: that deal averaged just over sixteen million. The guarantee was

1923
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 6: just over thirty million. That's that's how bad things are now, BUCkies,

1924
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 6: is you'd bring this up. No one's come close to

1925
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 6: that contract. I get he's a great player, but no

1926
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 6: one's gotten close to it, and it's not a good sign.

1927
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: So, Adam, now that we have officially closed the book

1928
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 2: on the Daniel Snyder era in Washington, and by the way,

1929
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: after that sixty million dollar fine, instead of six point

1930
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: zero five billion, he has to settle for five point

1931
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,520
Speaker 2: nine to nine billion on the deal for a franchise

1932
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 2: that he bought for eight hundred million dollars. But to me,

1933
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: the bigger question is has the NFL learned a lesson

1934
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 2: from the ownership of a Daniel Snyder who ruined at

1935
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 2: the time one of the proud franchises in the National

1936
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 2: Football League. Is there any change in the vetting of

1937
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: these potential owners or is it still just whoever throws

1938
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 2: the most money on the table ultimately is going to

1939
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: end up with the prize.

1940
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 6: That's a good question. In fact, part of the delay

1941
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 6: here was the NFL want to be comfortable with the

1942
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 6: minority ownership in terms of their net worth. That was

1943
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 6: part of this. That was part of the delay here.

1944
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 6: And obviously it just got done. And Josh Harrison his

1945
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 6: group knew. I was told I think money or Tuesday

1946
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 6: sent a contingent to Minneapolis. They knew this. People closed

1947
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 6: him from media standpoint, who were going to handle some

1948
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 6: puk relations stuff. They were with them. They knew this

1949
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 6: was going to happen. But I could tell you that

1950
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 6: back in the late nineties when this went on, no

1951
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 6: one really knew they're vetting Steve. To be honest with

1952
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 6: it was so much different. It's never easy, but it's

1953
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 6: easier to get information about people in their background. It's

1954
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 6: a lot easier. And that's that's kind of what went

1955
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 6: on here.

1956
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Now.

1957
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 6: Josh remember Josh Harrison his group, they're one of the

1958
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 6: finalists for the Broncos ownership group to buy it. That

1959
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 6: went to Walmart, the Walmart family. So the league already

1960
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 6: knew him. But I think it also helps that he's

1961
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 6: a guy that his group owns the Devils of the

1962
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 6: NHL and the Sixers in the NBA. And that also

1963
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 6: is good because the league is able to talk to

1964
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 6: other owners and vet him and other leagues. That that's

1965
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 6: actually really important.

1966
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 4: You know, when thinking about this, it was impossible not

1967
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 4: to miss Madge Johnson's presence, even though he's a minority owner,

1968
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 4: like a small percentage of ownership. Could he play a

1969
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,480
Speaker 4: prominent role in some of the things that the Washington commanders.

1970
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 4: I guess they stay with the name what they're going

1971
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 4: to do in that area.

1972
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 6: See, you remember with the Dodgers, he was the front

1973
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 6: man and he gave a great public face of the club.

1974
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 6: I would see that market. It's huge here. No, I

1975
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 6: don't see it. This is a football deal here. This

1976
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 6: is not now as a minority owner. Yeah, he could.

1977
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 6: You may see him around every once in a while.

1978
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 6: I don't see anything big here.

1979
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 3: No.

1980
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 6: The bigger story here is, guys going forward, is the

1981
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 6: status of Ron River. He's certainly going to be the

1982
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 6: head coach through the season, but the question is what

1983
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 6: will happen if they don't make the playoffs. Now, the

1984
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 6: NFCAS was the only division of football as much as

1985
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 6: people criticize it to not have a losing record. The Commanders,

1986
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 6: who might change their name in a year or so,

1987
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 6: and Magic talked about that. They were eight eight and one.

1988
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 6: They pulled up the rear there in that division. But

1989
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 6: that's the thing. Talking to people who've worked for Josh Harris,

1990
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 6: I wouldn't call him in patient, but he's demanding and

1991
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 6: not a bad way, in a good way. He wants

1992
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 6: to win badly. It means a lot to him. He

1993
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 6: knows the way you got to go about it.

1994
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1995
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, with the Sixers, the NBA team, they have not

1996
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,600
Speaker 6: gotten past the second round really in a couple of

1997
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 6: decades here. So that's certainly troubling if you're a Sixer

1998
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 6: fan like I. But the fact of the matter is

1999
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 6: Josh Harris is a guy that will spend money. That's

2000
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 6: another thing. You're not going to have one thing we

2001
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 6: should mention, You're not gonna have the embarrassment off the field.

2002
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 6: He's going to run it a specific way. He's also

2003
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 6: from there, and he has a way of doing things.

2004
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 6: Talking to people or who've worked for him and it's

2005
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 6: going to be the culture shock is going to be

2006
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 6: different in a good way, but people are going to

2007
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 6: know there are going to be some expectations there.

2008
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: So I'm just curious because obviously I've seen a long

2009
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 2: evolution in terms of training camps that used to start

2010
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: after the fourth of July holiday with twoa days and

2011
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: has been reduced obviously dramatically over the years, but not

2012
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 2: just in terms of the length of training camps. What

2013
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: actually gets accomplished in training camps. You've been following this

2014
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 2: league for a long time, Adam, what are some of

2015
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 2: the more significant changes you've seen in the way teams

2016
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 2: get prepared during training camp for the season.

2017
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna sit My first training camp was in

2018
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 6: ninety nine and they still had two days. Then two

2019
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 6: days like the young people like, what does that mean?

2020
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 6: So basically then they changed it to okay, if you

2021
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 6: practice in the morning, you can only have special teams

2022
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 6: in the afternoon. Now there is no second practice, there's nothing.

2023
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 6: Now what happens is teams will have what's called a

2024
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 6: pre practice walk through maybe for half an hour, then

2025
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 6: they'll practice, and then what they do for special teams

2026
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 6: is they shoehorn maybe two or three periods of it. Now,

2027
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 6: Chiff Kelly, the former Eagles and Niners coach, No one

2028
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 6: spent more time on special teams than Chip Kelly in practice.

2029
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 6: It was easily twenty five percent practice and it showed

2030
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 6: on the fields. The Eagles had pretty good special teams

2031
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 6: when he was in Philly, so that that would be

2032
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 6: that was a big thing, the left of practices. Although,

2033
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 6: although I should say, because I'm going to be there,

2034
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 6: I was talking. I was talking to someone who works

2035
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 6: for the Ravens lately recently, and he goes, look, our

2036
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 6: practice aren't going to change you. No, harps is going

2037
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 6: to go too and alf for three hours. I was

2038
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 6: out of two practices last summer, no joke, folks. One

2039
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 6: was forty seven minutes. The other was like fifty five minutes.

2040
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

2041
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:26,679
Speaker 6: Not with the Ravens.

2042
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 5: Of course, you remember that, Bucky, and you're playing days,

2043
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 5: don't you ridiculous?

2044
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 3: So that's so no, what's funny about that?

2045
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 4: When I broke into the league the Buffalo Bills in

2046
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four, they were coming off four straight Super Bowls.

2047
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 4: They only practiced an hour and fifteen a hour twenty minutes,

2048
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 4: which really yeah, back then, Marv leaving those guys they

2049
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 4: barely put on paths.

2050
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 3: It was in and out. By the time you kind

2051
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 3: of got leathered up, they were done.

2052
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 6: So I've never heard of that before.

2053
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 2: Real.

2054
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's a different it's a different deal. Speaking

2055
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 4: of a different deal, Like, we have these quarterbacks coming in.

2056
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 4: There's a lot of excitement in jackson Mille about Trevor Lawrence,

2057
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 4: like maybe kind of cracking the top five. What have

2058
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 4: you heard when you've talked to people down in Jacksonville

2059
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 4: about this progress?

2060
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 6: They love them. I mean it's I think what happened, Bucky,

2061
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 6: I know you're you know, you know you You've covered them,

2062
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 6: so you know the people there. What happened was the

2063
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 6: culture change with Doug Petersen brought in. I think that

2064
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 6: that's probably the one thing. And Doug knows how to

2065
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 6: coach quarterbacks. He has a system that's extremely quarterback friendly.

2066
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 6: He runs a eleven personnel offense. They're going to go heavy,

2067
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 6: three receivers. He's just a common influence.

2068
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 8: Now.

2069
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 6: I could tell you when I was there last summer,

2070
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 6: I couldn't see that I was. I was only there

2071
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 6: for one day and all the other things. You know,

2072
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 6: they have their new training camp, their new practice facility

2073
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 6: open for training camp. This is the first time they

2074
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 6: ever had their facility. Is you know, they've always they've

2075
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 6: they've always worked at the stadium and the grounds there,

2076
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 6: so this is a big deal. H. No, they love him.

2077
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 6: The Trevor Lawrence wants to be great. He was incredible.

2078
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 6: It's telling how bad he was in year one. He

2079
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 6: did one eighty degree turn. No, they love him. They

2080
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 6: think they've surrounded him. I know that they're very excited

2081
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 6: about the rookie class. And the big thing is, by

2082
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 6: the way, Calvin Ridley, though I am told he did

2083
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 6: have a hamsterring issue in OTAs, they'll be fine for

2084
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 6: training camp. They're pretty excited about him because he just

2085
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 6: this is one of the before his issues and he

2086
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 6: hasn't played football almost two years. You talk about one

2087
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 6: of the top five to seven receivers in the league,

2088
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 6: and they gave him a decent amount of competition to

2089
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 6: get him. So you put Ridley with Christian Kirk and

2090
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 6: Evan Ingram besigns his extension and you know, a pretty

2091
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 6: good scheme and a good young defense. There's a reason

2092
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 6: why the Jaguars are the clear favorite the Division of

2093
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 6: the eight divisions.

2094
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 2: Of all coaching hires, and the only were five, But

2095
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,520
Speaker 2: all the coaching hires, the one that I'm absolutely transfixed

2096
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 2: on is the Sean Payton hiring.

2097
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, by the Denver Broncos.

2098
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 2: And by the way, there were a lot of reports

2099
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 2: he was not their first choice, that they had actually

2100
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 2: tried to get Harbaugh and even Dominico Ryans. But let's

2101
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 2: this whole idea of Sean Payton Russell Wilson. I people say,

2102
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 2: where would you like to see? Like, what room would

2103
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 2: you like to be in? I would love to be

2104
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 2: in a room where Sean Payton and Russell Wilson are

2105
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 2: sort of trying to find common ground to get everything

2106
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: on track. Just I mean, we're obviously we haven't even

2107
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 2: gotten started. But what's your gut feeling in your crystal

2108
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 2: ball about this Sean Payton Russell Wilson matchup in Denver.

2109
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 6: Well, I could tell you Russell Wilson has never been

2110
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 6: coach starred in his career. Yeah, now, he had clashes

2111
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 6: with Pete Carroll over offensive philosophy, but he's not had

2112
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 6: an in your face type of coach like Sean Payton.

2113
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 6: And I think this is actually gonna be really good

2114
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 6: for him. It was Camp Cupcake last summer under Nate Hackett,

2115
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 6: their former head coach. Talking to people there, there's a

2116
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 6: lack of disciplp I'm calling it like it I missus

2117
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 6: straight from people with there. It was embarrassing. I mean

2118
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 6: it was too soft. He needs hard coaching. Folks. What

2119
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 6: that means is you're gonna be held accountable. You know

2120
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 6: what's coming. You know, you got to bring your a

2121
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 6: game and you can't take a practice off or you

2122
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 6: can't do it your way. They're gonna do it Sean

2123
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 6: Payne's way. He needed discipline. Steve. I'm glad you brought

2124
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 6: this up. This is it would have been kind of

2125
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,600
Speaker 6: cool if they would have gotten hard knocks. But you know,

2126
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 6: having Aaron Rodgers with hard knocks with the Jets obviously

2127
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 6: really good. But you're right so much so, you know,

2128
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 6: that's the camp that I was not looking to go to.

2129
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 6: But they have a joint practice. They're going to host

2130
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 6: the RAM for two days at twenty third and twenty

2131
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 6: fourth of August. You know, obviously at the tail end

2132
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 6: of this thing at the complex in Denver, I wasn't

2133
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 6: thinking about doing it. But depending on what I hear?

2134
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 6: What's coming out of there? If it's got your popcorn ready,

2135
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 6: I'll probably go oh.

2136
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 3: I would love it. I love it?

2137
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 5: All right, Well, Adam, you got an edible football?

2138
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 6: No, we got stuff next week, y'all. I've been to

2139
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,839
Speaker 6: three or four camps, guys, and I think next Saturday,

2140
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 6: where am I going to be coming from? Let me

2141
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 6: check real quick, next Saturday. I fall goes, well, I'll

2142
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 6: call you from Steelers camp. I should be there next one.

2143
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 2: Nice and by the way, sent our best to Mike Tomlin.

2144
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: Congratulate him on his elections to the Pro Football Hall

2145
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 2: of Fame, because if whatever he did before last year

2146
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 2: had not been enough, what he did last year was

2147
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: one of the greatest coaching jobs that I've ever seen, Adam.

2148
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 2: Great stuff is always. We'll talk to you next week.

2149
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 2: Thank you, Adam Kaplan. I still cannot believe Pittsburgh had

2150
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 2: a winning record last year.

2151
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, unbelievable job.

2152
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 5: How is that even possible?

2153
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 7: Man?

2154
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Is coaching?

2155
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: Aspectation coaching, coaching, coaching. Yes, one of the greatst Mike Tomlin.

2156
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is oh. Before we

2157
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 2: do that, I do want to remind everyone Can I

2158
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2161
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Speaker 5: At the idea that football is right around the corner.

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Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, you have football coming up, and you were

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Speaker 8: That is Brian Harmon right now, considering the elements of

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Speaker 8: the course, he held it together today. He held it

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Speaker 8: together today. He is your leader twelve under at the

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Speaker 8: Open Championship through three rounds, so one more round to

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Speaker 8: go out of sixty nine today. And he had to

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Speaker 8: really work to make that sixty nine happen at the

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Speaker 8: Big par Saver the long put on eighteen, but found

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Speaker 8: but was able to salvage things and come out two

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Speaker 8: hundred today in a five shot lead over Camberony Young

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Speaker 8: to fellow American six under is where John Rahm stands

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Speaker 8: three off the excuse me, tied or solo third that is,

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Speaker 8: and an eight under for him today. That is the

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Speaker 8: low round score of a sixty three. One more round

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Speaker 8: to go, and Brian Harmon, who had a nice start

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Speaker 8: to his couple of rounds at the US Open at LACC,

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Speaker 8: we'll try to finish things off in his pursuit of

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Speaker 8: his first major in what is the years first or

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Speaker 8: rather last major Major League baseball is going on right now.

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Speaker 8: We do have the Dodgers up thirteen to three against

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Speaker 8: the Rangers as they work the way to the bottom

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Speaker 8: of the eighth. Freddie Freeman has two home runs. Speaking

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Speaker 8: of the Rangers, they're all star in shortstop. Corey Seeger

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Speaker 8: is going to be out at least ten days. Is

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Speaker 8: being put on the ten day injured list for a

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Speaker 8: sprained right thumb. Orioles have lost to lead. Here come

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Speaker 8: the Rays five to five. They've tied things up in

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Speaker 8: the bottom of the eighth, and Tampa has a runner

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Speaker 8: on first of two outs in that frame. The Mariners

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Speaker 8: are outlasting the Blue Jays nine to seven behind nine hits.

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Speaker 8: Bottom of the seventh, Padres and Tiger just got underway.

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Speaker 5: No score. Bottom of the second.

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Speaker 8: A rain delay has a holding pattern in place for

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Speaker 8: the Cubs Cardinals game.

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Speaker 5: That's the second rain delay that that game has had

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Speaker 5: a deal with.

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Speaker 8: Eight to six is where we stand in favor of

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Speaker 8: Chicago bottom of the seventh, and the game that actually

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Speaker 8: stopped yesterday, and it was a continuation of yesterday from

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Speaker 8: rain was this Mets Red Sox game that got done

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Speaker 8: today five to four in favor of New York. A

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Speaker 8: win for that other team in New York. The Yankees

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Speaker 8: five to two as they finish off the Royals as

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Speaker 8: DJ Lemayho hit a home run. The Rockies cross off

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Speaker 8: the Marlins four to three, and the Reds four to

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Speaker 8: two winners against the Diamondbacks, and that would be a

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Speaker 8: final score. With that, let's get it back to two

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Speaker 8: guys who are bursting in excitement because of the looming

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Speaker 8: NFL season coming up.

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Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks, Steve Parker. There's no continions, none, zero zip ideas.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much as always, Befen.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we're coming you alive from the tyrack

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Speaker 2: dot com studios now along with the new coach, Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton there.

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Speaker 5: With Russell Wilson. That's a veteran coach, veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 2: How about the rookie coach, rookie quarterback in Indianapolis Stikeen

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Speaker 2: and Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 5: What is the early buzz on exactly?

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Speaker 2: The Colts who have been desperate for a quarterback since

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Speaker 2: the sudden retirement of Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 5: They've gone through one quarterback after another.

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Speaker 2: They take Richardson as raw as he is completing less

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Speaker 2: than fifty four percent of his passes at Florida last

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Speaker 2: year athlete extraordinaire, and he got Shane sdike In, who

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Speaker 2: obviously is recognized as one of the rising superstars on

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Speaker 2: the offensive side of the football. From a coaching standpoint,

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Speaker 2: rookie head coach, rookie quarterback, how's that going to play

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Speaker 2: out an end?

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Speaker 3: So this would be interesting.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of eyes on Indianapolis, not only

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Speaker 4: because of Anthony Richardson and Shane Stinking their pairing, but

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Speaker 4: because of what the Colts have done the last two years.

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Speaker 4: When you look at the drafts of the last two years,

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Speaker 4: the Colts have taken the prototypes. They've opted to go

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Speaker 4: for the guys that had the heighthweight, speed, evaluate ratios

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Speaker 4: that you look for, the guys that traditionally played for

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Speaker 4: a long time in the league. They've opted to go

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Speaker 4: more that route than the guys that might have been

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Speaker 4: the best performers and those things. And so what you

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Speaker 4: have is a big, fast and physical football team that

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Speaker 4: is ready to go, but it hinges on the performers

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Speaker 4: of the quarterback. And we assuming that Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 4: going to be that quarterback. If it works for Anthony Richison,

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Speaker 4: it then opens up a little bit of Pandora's box.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to evaluating quarterbacks, it would be one

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Speaker 4: of the first times that we would have seen a

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Speaker 4: quarterback who has been able to really play at a

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Speaker 4: high level off potential more so than performance and production.

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Speaker 4: This was a guy that was a i mean, a

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Speaker 4: mid level quarterback in the SEC. But yet he's a

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Speaker 4: top five pick in the draft. And so I kind

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Speaker 4: of equate this to when Giannis was drafted by the

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Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks. You see the frame, you see the size,

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Speaker 4: and you have the imagination to think, well, what if

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Speaker 4: we get all these things right. That's what the Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: Colts are doing with Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: What should be a warning to Stikeen taking over this shop,

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Speaker 2: because I remember Shane Stikeen was, you know, sort of

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Speaker 2: a low level assistant with the Chargers organization way back

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Speaker 2: in the day. By the way, it's amazing how many

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Speaker 2: of those Charger coaches are now head coaches around the

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01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: National Football League, but a group, by the way, they

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01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:51,759
Speaker 2: didn't produce a lot of wins.

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Speaker 3: Back in those days.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I mean, Shane Stikeen is a pretty serious

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Speaker 2: minded guy. Obviously, a guy who's got a lot in

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Speaker 2: his head in terms of what he wants to do

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01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 2: offensively with this team, but he's also a head coach. Now,

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01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 2: you've seen head coaches that have been immediate hits, and

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01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: you've seen head coaches that may have been brilliant offensive

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01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 2: or defensive minds that didn't translate into being a head coach. So,

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Speaker 2: especially when you have an owner anxious to see that

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Speaker 2: guy Anthony Richardson out on the field as quickly as

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01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 2: possible to show what he drafted, how do you handle that?

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: What advice would you give Shane Steichen?

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Speaker 4: Well, he doesn't need my advice, but I think he's

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01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 4: going to follow through on the plan, even though ownership

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01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 4: has said they want Anthony Rigson on the field right away.

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Speaker 4: Your job is a head coach and to make sure

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Speaker 4: that you take care of the players and what's in

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01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 4: the best interests of the team. And so if Anthony

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Speaker 4: Richardson displays kind of some uneven stuff where he's not

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Speaker 4: ready to be the game one starter, then what you

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01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 4: have to do is you have to have that hard

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01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 4: conversation with ownership and say, hey, we're going to bring

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Speaker 4: him along. He will start games, but he needs maybe

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Speaker 4: the first month to kind of ease into it. Going

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01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 4: to Minchew the ball of yours. But I'm just letting

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01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 4: you know there's a short expiration date on this, and

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01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 4: so you probably have two weeks three weeks to kind

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01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 4: of live out your fantasy as a franchise quarterback. But

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01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 4: eventually Anthony Bridson is going to step in and take over.

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01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: Well, with all the buzz and Anthony Richardson had out

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01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: of the combines and then heading into the draft, I

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01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 2: think he's start of flying under the radar because all

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01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 2: the folks has been like on Aaron Rodgers and everything else.

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01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 2: But I think once we get into the season, people

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01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 2: are going to be reminded that this is a specially

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01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 2: young man. The question is is that going to translate

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Speaker 2: into being successful NFL quarterback?

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Speaker 5: We got our player of the day. Much more coming up.

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Speaker 5: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Here's a three two swung on Andrell to deep right.

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Speaker 3: That bull is high.

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Speaker 11: That is far that us gone. DJ le May who

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Speaker 11: breaks the tide? That is a old time love May

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Speaker 11: who stroke to right center? Veil Home's ready for the

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Speaker 11: two to Drew.

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Speaker 6: Shahi.

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Speaker 5: Three is called the ball game Over. Yankees win, Yankees

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Speaker 5: when and the final and the Yankees five in Kansas

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Speaker 5: City two. Yeah, that's Yankees Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about John Sterling, of course, longtime voice of

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01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 2: the Yankees. Not only is he not in the announcers

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01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 2: wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame, he's never.

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Speaker 5: Even been nominated. Doesn't that seem unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's such a recognizable voice. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Harbin Bucket Brooks with you here from the tai Iraq

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Speaker 2: dot com studio. I want to thank our crew today. Obviously,

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01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 2: we got Chris on the board here taking over for

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01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 2: Iowa Sam as he does every single week, giving us

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01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 2: a little knowledge here, a little taste of football which.

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Speaker 3: We always need.

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01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 2: Our well, Bfen was here, Brian Finley doing all the updates.

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01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 2: By the way, our producer Brandon I finally posted a

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01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 2: tweet which I have not done in months, and I

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01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 2: decided to post one that just caught my attention at

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 2: the moment. This was the tweet I had a new

2354
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 2: plan for the Podres trade deadline fire, AJ Preller. So

2355
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:45,839
Speaker 2: AJ Preller to me sort of like Tom te Lasco,

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01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 2: two guys. I got to know him my years in

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01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 2: San Diego. I'm trying to figure out how if you're

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01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: a general manager and you've been at the job for

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01:55:55,440 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 2: more than a decade and have never produced a division championship.

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Speaker 5: I'm not champion. I'm like, you've never won a division.

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01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 2: Title in over a decade of being on the job,

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01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 2: how do you keep that job as a general manager,

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 2: as a director of player personnel. He's on manager number three, Yeah,

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01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean he's on his third manager that he has hired.

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01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 2: He has an owner that decided to spend, you know,

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01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 2: as much money as you possibly need. They obviously have talent,

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Speaker 2: the Podres. Except the stat that you're saying, how is this?

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01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 2: I mean, so Doo's numbers look okay, Tatisa's numbers look okay.

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01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 2: Blake Snell's been a hot pitcher, Muscrove's been hot. Why

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01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 2: aren't they winning?

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01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 5: Look at their batting average, runners in scoring position depth too.

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Speaker 2: It's not good, But I mean, I just I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, and this is nothing

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01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: personal with Preller. I know he's a savon in baseball.

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01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 2: You know, curious love this guy because he makes a

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01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 2: lot of deals. He also are announced. Yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: pretty much stand pat. Okay, Well that's great, except that

2378
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 2: you're still quite a ways out of.

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01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 5: Even being a wildcard team this year.

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01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, Bucky, I mean you you know, I

2381
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: was talking about a situation with Tom Telesco.

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01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 5: No, the great guy. I love Tom personally.

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01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 2: He has a friendship with John Spanos, who is the

2384
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 2: owner's son, that's the director of football personnel. I like John,

2385
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 2: But I mean, at some point, if you're in that

2386
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 2: kind of position, don't you got to produce something?

2387
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 3: Yes, at some point.

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01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 4: I mean maybe Padre's fans are cool with like having

2389
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 4: the buzz around them, but they want a champions But yeah, no,

2390
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 4: it's time.

2391
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 3: It's time to win games.

2392
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 4: And when you look up the road and you talk

2393
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 4: about the rival, like the Padre's rival, the Dodgers, they're

2394
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 4: they're always in the mix. They've won a title, they've

2395
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 4: kind of been in the hunt. Like the Padres should

2396
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 4: do it. And when you look at the names, man

2397
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 4: they have a series of names that they should be

2398
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 4: winning at a high level. And so yeahs apointment has

2399
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 4: to go there. And if you've gotten rid of a

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01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 4: few managers, you've changed the furniture around the diamond in

2401
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 4: terms of the personnel.

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01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 3: The next stop is the general manager.

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01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned the padres Tom tellasco This is

2404
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 2: his third coach. And by the way, his first two

2405
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 2: coaches had winning seasons their first two years, just like

2406
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: this coach year three. Right off the there's a team.

2407
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: I could talk all.

2408
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 3: Day about a lot of charges.

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01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 2: You can talk about the anonymous team in LA that

2410
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 2: no one knows exists in LA. Still a lot of

2411
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: LA fans wish they had never moved out of San Diego,

2412
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 2: that team blogging and said, but the NFL stadium's gone

2413
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 2: in San Diego.

2414
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 5: They're they're here in LA to stay.

2415
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 3: So I mean, I felt like just started right now.

2416
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 4: But I felt like they should have moved to Orange

2417
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 4: County if they were gonna move, because that could have

2418
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 4: been the best of both for us.

2419
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 2: But they didn't want to spending money. Don't you understand?

2420
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 2: The school bids goes back to the frustration of fans

2421
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 2: with bad ownership. You know, ownership that's not one hundred

2422
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 2: percent invested in winning. I mean, that's what you want.

2423
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 2: What every fan dreams of is ownership that's one hundred

2424
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 2: percent invested into winning.

2425
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2426
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:12,440
Speaker 4: And if you're not, then and it's becoming increasingly apparent

2427
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 4: that the money is escalating where you're gonna have the

2428
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 4: conglomerates that've taking over these teams because they have the

2429
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 4: money with the evaluation of the franchise going up, they

2430
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 4: have the money to spend on the personnel that you

2431
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 4: have to have in place to win at a high level.

2432
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 4: And so we'll see, Man, the clock is ticking on

2433
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 4: a bunch of people involved when it comes to the charge.

2434
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean explain that very quickly here because everyone says, well,

2435
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 2: you have a salary cap So how is it an advantage.

2436
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 5: That you have an owner with deep pockets?

2437
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 4: Because the cash that you can spend, you talk about

2438
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 4: guaranteed contracts, That money goes immediately into escro.

2439
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 3: So if you have deep pockets like.

2440
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 4: The Rams have and some of the other teams Jimmy Haslam,

2441
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 4: they can put those exorbitant contracts on the table because

2442
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 4: they fund it cinda estro.

2443
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 5: All right, Well, you're just wedding our appetite right now.

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01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, next week when we return, we're going to have

2445
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 2: just a whole lo more NFL to talk about it.

2446
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 2: In the meanwhile, keep it right here, much more coming

2447
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 2: up here on Fox Sports Radio