1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of I HOW Radio. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we're 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about october Fest beer and specifically the classic styles 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: or Marsin or Miasen. I heard like Marsin Marson. Okay, well, okay, 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: we never really got to the bottom of it. I 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: never took German. Fogelbaum is pretty much all that I know. Well, 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: I did take German, four years of it, and I 8 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: worked in a German office for a whole semester, and 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: so I have no excuse. As per usual, I will say, surprisingly, 10 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: beer didn't come up that much in my office. You know, 11 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: it did come up a lot fries, French fries. We'll 12 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: see you had priorities, and that's fine. I couldn't tell 13 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: you how to say that either, though it suit mere live. 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I remember, sorry because I apologized a lot of bad pronunciation. 15 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, yeah, I suppose the time is right. 16 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: This was a Lauren Lauren's suggestion. I actually really don't 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: know much about this beer. I've never really heard that 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: name before. I've heard like october Fest beers, but Malsden 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: or Marson, however you pronounce it I had not really 20 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: heard of Uh, yeah, I don't think. I don't think 21 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: that I was very aware of it. I think that 22 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: I've consumed a certain amount of it. Um during october 23 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Fest season around around town. Here in Atlanta, we're very 24 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: lucky to have a number of beer bars and local 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: breweries that do some super interesting stuff. Um. And I 26 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: was thinking about it because one new one called Halfway 27 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Crooks just released this entire october Fest lineup and they're 28 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: serving all of this delicious looking Bavarian food and I 29 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: really want to go over there. Um. So this is 30 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: this is why I was thinking about it. See, I'd 31 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: almost totally forgotten about it, since time is essentially meaningless 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: these days. But I did, um, I did. When I 33 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: was in my youth, I went to many a bad 34 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: october Fest at one Helen, Georgia. Yeah, such a shall 35 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: we say, very interesting kind of German Dutch themed town. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 36 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: My dad was a professor at the local college, so 37 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: all these people would come up and ask me questions 38 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: about how to pass this class, and then it would 39 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: inevitably get back to my dad that I was out 40 00:02:53,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: drinking late or whatever. It was small tone. Yeah, I 41 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: don't well, they were fun, but I'm sure they weren't 42 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: very uh authentic october Fest celebration. Oh yeah, I somehow 43 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: doubted as well, knowing, you know, the little bit or 44 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: or having spent a little bit of time that I 45 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: have in Helen Um. But I'm sure it was enthusiastic, 46 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: and that's that's part of what counts. Yes, Yes, enthusiasm 47 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: was there for sure. Um. So we have done a 48 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: few episodes on beer types of beer. We've done sour beers. 49 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Unless I'm mistaken, we did pills and r It's quite possible. 50 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we did, did we. I think it's 51 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: just come up in so many because it really changed 52 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: the whole beer landscape that I just feel like we have. Yeah, 53 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: we definitely talked about it in Stouts and Porters. Oh 54 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: U p a s. We did think that's what you're 55 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: thinking of, right, yet I knew there was another one 56 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: in there. Um and Yeah. I also wanted to announce 57 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: that if you're looking for something to watch on Netflix, uh, 58 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: their Halloween lineup includes a new film called october Fest, 59 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Beer and Blood. That's an option. I can't tell you 60 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: more than that. I feel like, like everything that you 61 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: need to know, it says right there on the tent, 62 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I agree, and the thumbnail image gives me a pretty 63 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: big clue that it's tourists gone wrong. Sure, but you know, 64 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. And as always with these alcohol episodes, 65 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: drink responsibly, yes, yes, always yes. But okay, that brings 66 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: us to our question. Mm hmm october Fest beers in Marson, 67 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: what are they? Well? Uh, okay these days as October 68 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: Fast or mouse un might mean I'm just gonna say 69 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: mars And like an American, y'all, I'm sure I'm pronouncing 70 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: it wrong anyway, So I'm just gonna go with mars And. Um. Yeah, 71 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: it might mean a variety of things, depending on the 72 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: brewer who's making it and their their interpretation of the style. 73 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: But um, the essence perhaps of mars And is that 74 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: it's a It's a pale lagger um amber to golden 75 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: in color, rich with toasty malt flavors, a little bit 76 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: creamy in the mouth feel, but pretty crisp lighting alcohol 77 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: around five to six a b v, maybe up to 78 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: six point five. Um. That's alcohol bi volume, by the way. Um, 79 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: And if I may get a little bit poetical about 80 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: this style, um, it should remind you of of fall 81 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: leaves and in the weather turning. Oh that is a 82 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: little poetical, and I love it. I do have a 83 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: tradition on I like to get a summer beer and 84 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: a fall beer. I have I would say goodbye to 85 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: summer and then hello to fall. So I get what 86 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, yeah, just just just crisp and and 87 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: sort of the color of fall leaves. UM And for 88 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: a long time, UM the mars and was synonymous with 89 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: october Fest in Germany, so the style is sometimes called 90 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: october Fest. However, the way that we make october Fest 91 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: here in America, it's sort of like a time capsule um, 92 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: like a window to what the style was in Germany 93 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: around the turn of the twentieth century. Um, a little 94 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: sweet and biscuity, a little bit spicy from hops um 95 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: amber in color. But but the styles of beers brewed 96 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: for october Fest continued developing over in Germany. And so 97 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: these days and october Fest beer enjoyed there is going 98 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: to be golden and cleaner. UM, still a little bit sweet, 99 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: more bready than biscuity, which I know is like a 100 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: really in the weeds beer nerd kind of distinction. But 101 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: but I guess, I guess bretty is a little bit 102 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: like fresher, almost like the smell of fresh baked bread, 103 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: whereas biscuity is a little bit toastier and and maybe 104 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: a little bit heavier. Mm hmm. I feel like it's 105 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: something that I couldn't really described very well, but I 106 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: can just feel it. I know what youah, Yeah, it's yeah, 107 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: it's that biscuit feeling. Yes, yes, we in the South 108 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: absolutely know about that. Um. But so so this um, 109 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: this this more golden, cleaner bready style that was developed 110 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: in Germany. Um. This style is now sometimes called fest 111 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: beer or vissn, which means meadow and refers to the 112 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: fields where october Fest takes place. And yeah, so that's 113 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: going to be the dominant style of october Fest in Germany, 114 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: whereas ours is the mars in Um. But okay, I 115 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: just threw like a lot of words at y'all, um, 116 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: and my cats savas throwing some words at me. Goodness, 117 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: little buddy. We'll see if about this as well. So 118 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: so yes, um. Octoberfest it is an annual autumn festival 119 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: that is held in Munich, Germany, UM, which is an 120 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: area known for its breweries, so so part of the 121 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: festivities have always included local beers, and it also includes 122 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: celebrations of the local folk culture of Bavaria with a 123 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: music and dance and puppetry and costumes, parades, food games, 124 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: shooting displays, and rides. Yes, like one that is apparently 125 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: called the Pendulum of Chaos. No, I'm shocked that this 126 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: is not a thing that you personally designed for us 127 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: in Dungeons and Dragons, but shocked as well. Apparently I 128 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: had to read up on this after Annie just entered 129 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: a note in the outline that said the Pendulum of Chaos. Yeah, 130 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: no explanation, no explanation. I was like, what pendulum and 131 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: what chaos? But yeah, this is a ride that was 132 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: new as and is apparently a swing and sling shot 133 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: ride with two cabins fitting eight passengers each, which can 134 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: both go in all possible directions according to the Telegraph. 135 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: So I'm like, is this a wankavad or what's happening? 136 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. M hm. Also, 137 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: I feel like beer plus of chaos. I mean, that's 138 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: part of the chaos element that you're introducing. It works 139 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: on us. Yeah it does. But anyway, we're a food show. 140 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: The beer um okay, so so so before we get 141 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: into these specific styles of beer, very brief beer overview. 142 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: But beer is what you get when you make a 143 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: thin soup out of grains and then encourage yeasts to 144 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: eat the sugars in that soup and poop carbon dioxide, 145 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: bubbles and alcohol and flavor yeast food. And now I 146 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: said that a marsin is a lagger, and and that 147 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: refers to the type of yeast that's used to brew it. 148 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: Laggers are made with with yeasts that thrive at relatively 149 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: cool temperatures about forty to fifty fahrenheit or five to 150 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: ten celsius um. These are sometimes called bottom fermenting yeasts 151 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: because because they easily sink to the bottom of the 152 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: fermenting vessel and were traditionally collected from the bottom when 153 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: making the next batch of beer. The yeasts that make 154 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: ales in comparison thrive at warmer temperatures, like a twenty 155 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: fahrenheit or fifteen celsius warmer um, and those are top fermenting, 156 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: meaning that they kick up more foam at the top 157 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: of the vessel while they're doing that fermentation and are 158 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: then collected from the top when they're done now in 159 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: a lagger um. Those lower temperatures mean that the fermentation 160 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: process happens more slowly and the resulting beers really benefit 161 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: from being aged a little bit like a few months 162 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: at least um in cool conditions, and this process is 163 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: known as loggering um. That the yeasts used our varieties 164 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: of a species called sacramics pastorianis Um in honor of 165 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Louis Pasteur's contributions to brewing um, including his early recognition 166 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: the top dwelling and bottom dwelling yeasts were inherently distinct. Oh, 167 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: I have a quick like related note that I want 168 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: to share. Um. So, my mom's birthday was the weekend, 169 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: and I meant to text you this, Lauren, but I 170 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: thought this might be too weird to text to send 171 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: to a friend and co worker on the weekend. Okay, 172 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: she said what she wanted for her birthday was a 173 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: documentary on Louis Pasteur, was about one of the sweetest things. 174 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, so great, this is where I good. Bro, 175 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Did you find her one? No, I'm I'm 176 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: looking for it. But yeah, that's what she You know, 177 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: I was just imagining she loves guarding something with that 178 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: or I don't know. I was never in my wildest dreams, 179 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: and I think she was going to say that was 180 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: a very past story. That's great, that is that is 181 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: so sweet? Oh no, all right, Well, if anyone has 182 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: a good one, please right in. Yes, yes, please, my 183 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: mom is your my mom's only hope? Yeah, okay, okay, okay, 184 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: but but but loggers yeah so um. So the flavors 185 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: and colors that you get in any given logger once 186 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: it's finished are going to depend heavily on the ingredients 187 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: that you put into it, your your malts, your hops. Um. 188 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: But a unifying trait tends to be a crisp, clean 189 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: taste because a those yeasts have had a little bit 190 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: longer to eat the sugars in the grain soup. Um 191 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: and be because logger yeasts don't produce as many um, 192 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: floral or fruity flavors as ale yeasts do. UM. So 193 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: therefore logger yeasts let the flavors of the malts really shine. Um. 194 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: And that grain soup, by the way that it's it's 195 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: called wart um. Don't go to your local brewer and say, hey, 196 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: this podcast, or Lauren vogel Baum told me to call 197 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: it grain soup or I mean do I guess I 198 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: can't stop you now that I put that out into 199 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the universe. But it's how it goes. Oh jeez, oh, brewers, 200 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, are you though? Um? But but but 201 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: mars in in particular, Okay, So those malts in marsin 202 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: um Okay. Backing up from that, a malt is a 203 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: grain that's been germinated and then dried, and the germination 204 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: makes the sugars and the grains more accessible to your 205 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: yeasts and how you dry them or kiln them as 206 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: it's called. Um, we'll give you a range of flavors 207 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: and colors in your final beer. Pale beers use very 208 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: lightly killed malts, and darker beers use malts that have 209 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: been a toasted creating caramelization and or roasted creating the 210 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: mayard reaction. And mars in is is usually going to 211 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: be a blend of a few different styles of traditional malt. 212 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Um Pilsner, Vienna, and Munich, named for the cities where 213 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: they were developed. Um Pilsner is a very light malt, 214 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Munich is caramelized, and Vienna is roasted so how much 215 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: of each you use will depend on what you want 216 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the final product to be like. And hops. Hops are 217 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: added to beer partially because they helped control the growth 218 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: of unwanted microbes um, and sometimes to add their own 219 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: strong flavors like in an I p A. And sometimes 220 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: more to just balance the sweetness of the malts with 221 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: a touch of bitterness and um. And that ladder flavor 222 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: gig is the gig in Mars and and other laggers 223 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: like the Pilsner. Because yeah, you shouldn't even really notice 224 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: that the hops are there in the final product. M 225 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: m I guess that's true. M hmm. All right, Well 226 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: what about the nutrition? Drink responsibly? Yeah, um, I will 227 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: say in general, um, the lower the A b V 228 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: or alcohol BI volume, um, the fewer calories of beer 229 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: typically will have UM. So that puts Mars in in 230 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: like the load amid range calorically speaking. But you know, yeah, yeah, um, 231 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: we do have some numbers for you, we do. Okay, 232 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: So october Fest the festival attracts around six million festival 233 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: goers every year, but not this one because of covid 234 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: um in Germany and only six breweries, all located in Munich, 235 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: served beer at the fest. According to an article Dana 236 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: Hattic at Eater wrote, festivalgoers in twenty seventeen drank quote 237 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: seven point seven million liters of beer, along with four 238 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: hundred sixty six thousand, seven forty seven roast chickens, two 239 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,479 Speaker 1: hundred and six thousand, five hundred and thirty five pairs 240 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: of pork sausages, and close to forty five thousand kilograms 241 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: of roasted almonds. Yeah. I didn't know about this roast 242 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: chicken aspect. That was no, No, me neither, and it 243 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,239 Speaker 1: came up in a couple of different notes it did. Indeed. Um, 244 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: twelve thousand hecto liters of beer was poured for the 245 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: one hundredth anniversary of october Fest in nineteen ten. Yeah, yeah, 246 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: so lots of lots of beer being sampled, lots of 247 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and uh, for sure, we'll have to do 248 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: further episodes about some of the other stuff that goes 249 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: on october Fest at a later day in time. The 250 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: very inquisine is amazing, um so, but but yeah, yeah, 251 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: for for now, that's what we've got, um and we 252 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: do have some history for you, we do. But first 253 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: we have a quick break for word from our sponsor 254 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsor. Yes, thank you. So 255 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: beer is old, very old, that's what I have to say. Yes, 256 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: beer is like Neolithic. Both wine and beer existed long 257 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: before the wheel um, probably some nine thousand years ago. 258 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: And and humans are still untangling evidence about when beer 259 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: really became a thing. But I'm going to say like 260 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: five thousand to nine thousand years ago um. And beer 261 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: brewing was tied to breadmaking UM because both have used 262 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: sacro mices sarah vic a yeasts in order to make 263 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: the stuff happen. Mm hmmm, so old old not new. Yeah, 264 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: jumping just a little bit ahead. UM. The refinement of 265 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: beer into the beginnings of a few different styles that 266 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: we would recognize today began right around the beginning of 267 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: the Renaissance. UM. Sometime in the fourteen hundreds, brewers in 268 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: the German state of Bavaria began making what's now known 269 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: as loggers. Yes, and before refrigeration beer, brewers in Germany 270 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: couldn't brew after the weather warmed up in March because 271 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: the higher temperatures would allow for the introduction of airborne 272 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: bacteria into the fermentation tanks. Those last beers of winter 273 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: were aged through spring and summer and once cooler weather 274 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: rolled around again in September or October, they tapped the beers, 275 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: and these beers tasted a bit fuller, smoother, and people 276 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: called them Marson beer, sometimes shortened to Marson or March 277 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: in German. Makes sense. I don't know how I didn't 278 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: pick up on that, but yeah, I know, right, huh. 279 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: In anticipation of this aging process, mars and started as 280 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: strong and dark bruise with either caramelized Munich malls and 281 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: or roasted Vienna malts, and they were sometimes stored in 282 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: caves and cellars. And what was happening here was that 283 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: these brewers were unwittingly domesticating a whole new species of yeast, 284 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: the aforementioned U. S. Pastorianis. And this is actually a 285 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: hybrid of the standard brewers East M. S. Sarah viz 286 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: A and s U. Beianness I think, um uh. And 287 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: and we only figured that out in like two thousand eleven, 288 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: so this is exciting new science. But at any rate, yes, um, 289 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: this happened as those brewers selected those bottom dwelling yeasts 290 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: after each batch and then used them to ferment their 291 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: next batch. Um. Extra interestingly, though, um, the thing that 292 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Sarah Vizier blended with that, you be honest. UM doesn't 293 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: seem to be native to Europe at all, but it's 294 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: thought to have come in via trade with East Asia. M. Yeah, 295 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: very interesting. The first october Fest festival took place to 296 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: celebrate the wedding of Crown Prince later King Ludwig the 297 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: First of Bavaria to Princess Terisa in eighteen ten as 298 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: a way to foster sense of unity in Bavaria after 299 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: a rebellion. It was a five day event attended by 300 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: forty thousand citizens, held on terisy and Visa or Terraisa's meadow, 301 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: or perhaps it's ters and Visa one of those, or 302 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: maybe neither I tried um. There was a huge shorts 303 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: race uh the idea of a member of the Bavarian 304 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: National Guard and Dre s. Michael doll Army UM and 305 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: the style of beer served at this first fest was 306 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: probably what's known today as dunkle Um, which is a 307 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: darker logger m. This festival was apparently so successful that 308 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: people decided to make it an annual thing at the 309 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: same venue, a celebration of fall harvest and of course 310 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: beer that was perfectly timed for the tapping of Marsin. 311 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: Not only that, the City of Munich awarded doll Army 312 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: the very first citizens Gold Medal for inventing october Fest. 313 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: It did get canceled in thirteen due to the Napoleonic Wars. 314 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: When the wars came to an end, the event was 315 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: brought back with private funding until eighteen nineteen when the 316 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: City of Munich stepped in. They decided it was a 317 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: big enough deal and it was a way to show 318 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: off kind of the culture of the area. Um Over 319 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: the years, things like cholera dampened the festival spirit, so 320 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: it took a few decades before october Fest solidified into 321 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: the event we know it as today. The statue of Bavaria, 322 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: the Guardian of october Fest, was unveiled in eighteen fifty. 323 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: ROAs style chicken debut in eighteen eighty one, and yes 324 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: it still served to this day. A carousel and swings 325 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: went up in eighteen eighteen, and starting in the eighteen seventies, 326 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: more and more rides went up as part of this festival. 327 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: Beer stands were replaced by tents in eighteen ninety six. 328 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: The first known instance of Broadwurst was in eighteen eighty 329 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: one in eighteen eighty seven. Later, Hosen and Derndill were 330 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: named the official attire of october Fest to further promote 331 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Bavarian culture. These were traditional work attire outfits. Mm hmm. 332 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: And now there was some cross pollination of brewing trends 333 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: and technologies going on in the area. At the time. 334 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Um Munich was really heavy into loggers, these things like 335 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: the duncle that were um that were cellared away starting 336 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: in March um Vienna meanwhile was really into ales um. 337 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: And as the marsin that we know today developed, it 338 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: was influenced by both of these processes. Yes, over time 339 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: these processes met some of the beer brewing practices in England. 340 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Gabrielle sadal Meyer, the first of Munich's spot in brewery, 341 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: a brewer known for his knowledge and yeast management and 342 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: bottom fermentation, sent his son, Gabriel the second, his son 343 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: and apprentice to learn the methods from breweries in London Edinburgh, 344 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: where pale ales were all the rage and uh. Gabriel 345 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: was occasionally accompanied by a brewer out of Vienna. They 346 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: went and studied at a lot of these breweries together 347 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: and as they were learning from UK brewers there was 348 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: simultaneously a lot of innovation in beer brewing, including malt kilns. Yeah, 349 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: and we talked about this in our Stout and or 350 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: Porter episode, so see that for a little bit more 351 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: about this development of killing. Yes, when Gabriel returned and 352 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: took over his family's brewery in the eighteen thirties, he 353 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: incorporated some of these techniques and methods that he picked up, 354 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: including and proving how he made Munich style malts. Meanwhile, 355 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: his accomplice Anton Dreyer returned to Vienna with the idea 356 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: of making lagger beers the color of pale ales by 357 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: using pale malts. This resulted in a beer that was 358 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: lighter than traditional Munich style beers. In eighteen forty one, 359 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: he debuted this amber colored lager beer, and amber beers 360 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: that came after largely were inspired by this one. Yeah. Meanwhile, 361 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: the bright golden Pilsner Lagger debuted a year later in 362 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: eighteen forty two, named for the malts that were being 363 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: produced in nearby pills in Bohemia, and it didn't take 364 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: long for the pilsner to sweep through the rest of year. 365 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Up again, I thought we'd already done an episode, because 366 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: you have to talk about this beer in every beer episode. Um. Meanwhile, 367 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Bianna style Amber Lagger remained pretty local and over in 368 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Munich they were really focused on improving that dunkle. In 369 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: eighteen seventies, Gabriel's brother Joseph was experimenting with increasingly popular 370 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: lighter colored beers at his own brewery in modern day spots, 371 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: and he brewed one he was pleased with in March 372 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy two. It was called Original Mars and had 373 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: a much longer name but essentially shortened down to Original 374 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah um, and it was served at that year's 375 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: october Fest. It was expensive, but people loved it like 376 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: it's sold out um. And that of course other brewers 377 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: took note of that and made their own in that style, 378 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: and it became the signature style of october Fest. And 379 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: that Original Marson is still served at october Fest in Munich. 380 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: The structure in fact that it was originally served from, 381 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: which is this little barn built by one Michael Schottenhammel 382 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: back in eighteen sixty seven. That that barn still stands 383 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: and and it is still serving beer to this well, 384 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: not not to this day, because october Fest isn't happening 385 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: but yes, every october Fest it happens. Yes. Oh, And 386 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: beginning of the eighteen nineties, officials shifted the festival to 387 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: the end of September, but it lasted into October. M hmm. 388 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: This coincided with the advent of refrigeration, which allowed for 389 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: beer of any style to be brewed year round, which 390 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: made Marson's name sort of antiquated, but beers kept it 391 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: to describe a particular style of beer, and through this 392 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: it became tied to the amber Logger beer, now symbolic 393 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: of october Fest. The Mayor of Munich tapped the first 394 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: october Fest keig in nineteen fifty and that has since 395 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: become a tradition. The horse races came to an end 396 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, and yeah, that barn, the aforementioned 397 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: barn is where that first ceremonial keg is tapped. October 398 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: Fest came to the US with German immigrants and Lacrosse, 399 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Wisconsin through an october Fest in nineteen sixty one. For example, 400 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: um Cincinnati falls suit in nineteen at seventy six with 401 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: october Fest Zincinnati with Z's in twenties seventeen six d 402 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand people attended. Yeah, I believe it's the 403 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: largest one in the United States. It's definitely one of 404 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: the largest ones in the United States. UM, there's a 405 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: running of the Wieners a huge chicken dance. Sounds like 406 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: a right hoot, and several listeners have written in about it. 407 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: So when travelast thing, we will have to go well. 408 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Added to our ever growing list of field trips. UH. Meanwhile, 409 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, back over in Germany, Munich Brewery 410 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: Polliner developed the Golden Fest beer style as a lighter 411 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: and quote I I quote the head brewer, they're more 412 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: poundable alternative to to the traditional marson um. By the 413 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties it became the dominant style at october Fest. UM. 414 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Tragedy struck october Fest in journey in when an attack 415 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: at the festival's entrance left thirteen people dead and two 416 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: hundred injured. In the case actually reopened in UM. A 417 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: more low key october Fest with the intent of attracting 418 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: families was introduced in two thousand five for the two 419 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: hundred anniversary in historical october Fest was held, and it 420 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: was so popular it too became an annual event. UM. 421 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Barring the every four years that the Bavarian Agricultural Festival 422 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: is held, in which case it is not held that year, 423 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: but every other instance. Yes, okay, so many october Fest 424 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: options to be had, oh, there really are. Yeah, and 425 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know through you know pretty much. I 426 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: would say wherever German immigrants have settled, you probably have 427 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: some kind of october Fest celebration to to be to 428 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: be enjoyed. Um. You know, maybe maybe we're we're all 429 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: kind of hunkered down this year, but but hopefully in 430 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: future years we can all get out and enjoy some 431 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: of them. Yes, cheers to that, m prost ah. Yes, um, 432 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: but we do have some listener mail for you in 433 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: the meantime. We do. But first we've got one more 434 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 435 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, thank you, and we're back with Snow. Snow. 436 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: It's got a big tankard of beer. It's like that 437 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: is a Beauty and the Beast where they all singing 438 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: about Gaston that the listeners can't see, but I bet 439 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: you can picture it. I bet you can. That song 440 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: is some of my favorite lines of any Disney song, 441 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: because he's so stuck up. Yeah. Um, it's it's it's 442 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: the one about spitting that gets me every time. Um, 443 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: what is it? Um? I'm exceptionally good at expectorating. Ye. Yes, yes, yeah, 444 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: it's good stuff, good stuff. It is I and bad 445 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: stuff at the same time. It's both, but in a 446 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: very catchy song and very catchily. Yes. I also wrote 447 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: about box wine. Colloquially, it's known as goon here so 448 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: a writer another writer from Australia um and the interplastic 449 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: layer is known as a goon bag. It lends its 450 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: name to what I think is the best drinking game 451 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: of all time, Goon of Fortune. This is where a 452 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: group of friends gather in a circle around a clothesline 453 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: which has the full bags from box wine peg to it, 454 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: and then the clothes line is spun in a circle 455 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: to see who it stops over, with the wine then 456 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: being chugged by the player. I've also seen examples of 457 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: college students inflating the bags after use and taping them 458 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: together to form footstools and pillows. One of my friends 459 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: also made the National Papers for creating a sailor Moon 460 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: themed costume entirely out of boxed wine bladders, which she 461 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: dubbed Sailor Goon. There is a BuzzFeed article on it. Everyone, 462 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so good. Um all is to say, 463 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 1: it's a baffling cultural phenomenon and in my mind one 464 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: of the most entertaining parts of being Australian. That's that's wonderful. Again. 465 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't encounter this, We didn't encounter 466 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: it in a research but I'm so glad the listeners 467 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: and also, yes, Sailor Goon, Sailor Goon. Oh see, I 468 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: thought I already had a favorite Sailor moon Pun outfit 469 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: and it's Sailor Mercury, but it's Freddie Mercury from Queen 470 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: Sailor Gone Might. I don't know. That's pretty good. That 471 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: is that is it is a you know, it's a 472 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: thing of beauty. It's it's it's a thing of absolute beauty. 473 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: She is truly on the forefront of a Sailor moon 474 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: Pun costume. Marie. Yeah, a beautiful soldiery of love and justice. Yes. Uh. 475 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: Bob wrote I'm walking back to my room here in 476 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: London just after eleven pm now and found that I 477 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: needed to write in because as I was listening to 478 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: Lauren describing how her snails would do what she called 479 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: her favorite thing to watch them do, how they would 480 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: climb up the side of the tank just to push 481 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: off and float back down. But she didn't know a 482 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: name for the activity. A name for it immediately came 483 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: to my mind. I couldn't believe that neither one of 484 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: you thought of it. Of course they were abb snailing. Sorry, 485 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: but I just couldn't help myself. This is one of 486 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: my very favorite things about our listeners is when they 487 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: write in for like puns, like puns that we missed. 488 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: That's yes, like that's the best type of correction we 489 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: can get. Oh, dear editor, you may believe you missed 490 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: this pun us neither. Thank you for sharing your brilliance 491 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: all of you. Yes, yes, yes, and uh. Thanks to 492 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: both of them for writing. If you would like to 493 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: write to us, you can. Our email is hello at 494 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: savor pod dot com. We're also on social media. 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