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Speaker 1: Sounds like we're in the lounge. Man, got our guys here.

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Speaker 1: Man's fucking Daniel. Man, fucking it's solent Assassin. I really

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you. YouTube this quiet ship. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna cut this ship out today.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know how the

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Speaker 3: quiet ones.

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Speaker 1: But I was once quiet too, until they showed me

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Speaker 1: a contract with all this money to talk and I

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Speaker 1: started being louder.

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Speaker 4: Is that the intro?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to be a quiet assassin. I know

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Speaker 3: a quiet assassin. What I see one?

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Speaker 1: Somebody that's fresh home from Nam, get right back.

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Speaker 4: I know, y'all, I don't know the history of division.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you guys were so mysterious and mystique

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Speaker 4: for your first three projects. No one really knew who

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Speaker 4: you guys were personally, or if it was two people.

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Speaker 4: They knew eighty five was doing hotline blinking. And then

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Speaker 4: there was this guy Daniel who was just an assassin

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Speaker 4: in the club.

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Speaker 3: Who was just crooned into all the unsuspecting ladies.

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Speaker 2: They know they were getting crooned too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the morning after September eighteen, What is September eighteen?

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Speaker 2: December fifth?

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Speaker 6: There's some day September fifth is the name. Actually, it's

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Speaker 6: the day that he made a beat.

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Speaker 2: Right, What was you named it? The day he made

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Speaker 2: the beat?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: So he made a beat, and that was the first

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Speaker 6: beat that I said, Look, I don't care who calls.

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Speaker 6: I don't care if Drake calls, I don't care who

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Speaker 6: it is. I'm keeping this. And so essentially that became

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Speaker 6: the first actual Division record that we actually made, because

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Speaker 6: he was already my producer.

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Speaker 2: So the history is.

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Speaker 6: We met through music, became really what year was this

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Speaker 6: really close? I don't know, two thousands, early, two thousands, late,

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Speaker 6: two thousands.

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Speaker 2: Not late.

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Speaker 6: That became like Division, Oh no, became Division right before

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Speaker 6: you guys heard us.

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Speaker 2: But we met. We met years before, years before that,

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Speaker 2: so we were already working.

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Speaker 6: He uh, you know, he got on before before I did.

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Speaker 6: He like you just said, hotline, blame hold on, We're

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Speaker 6: going home. One dance actually one this came later on,

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Speaker 6: came just for free, uh too much? All these records

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Speaker 6: he he kind of got on. I was still in

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Speaker 6: Toronto feeling like every nigga around me is popping off.

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Speaker 6: I guess this ship wasn't meant to happen for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so I kind of let it I kind of just

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Speaker 6: was in a space where I was like I was

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Speaker 6: at my I was at my what I thought was

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Speaker 6: like my my cliff of my end. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 6: like you know, I'll let you go. Maybe part of

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Speaker 6: where you got. And he was the one that kind

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Speaker 6: of just said, listen those records that we were working on,

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Speaker 6: and he's like, Yo, I'm telling you this is something like, Bro,

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Speaker 6: you're uploading this shit to SoundCloud, Like, h go ahead,

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Speaker 6: you know, what do you really think is gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: Talk about talk about that moment when you felt like

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Speaker 1: kind of being I guess, stagnant and no emotional movement. Like,

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Speaker 1: what was some of the things besides eighty five saying nah,

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Speaker 1: listen and putting these these records out that we did, Like,

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Speaker 1: what was some things that you pulled from to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta keep going.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't that I really pulled at anything. It was

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Speaker 6: him saying for dropping this and prepare for your life

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Speaker 6: to change, and I just said, okay, cool, let me

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Speaker 6: put it on SoundCloud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, I was.

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Speaker 6: We I was living a completely different life at that time,

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Speaker 6: you know, like I was. I was definitely mentally in

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Speaker 6: I was like a guy at that time and I

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Speaker 6: were done by nine eighty five, so we just never

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Speaker 2: So we already had this kind of reputation.

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Speaker 6: In the city like no, like that's he's one of

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Speaker 6: I stepped back. I started trying to write records. We

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Speaker 6: the you know a few things worked, but not a

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Speaker 4: Well, the Toronto sound was very monotone at that time,

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Speaker 4: and I don't mean that a bad way. It's changed

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Speaker 4: music for the better, I feel like, but singing. Singing

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Speaker 4: wasn't really a thing in that sound. Did you try

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Speaker 6: And no, to be honest, at that time, because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was making.

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Speaker 6: Records that I'm like, oh, Usher's gonna kill this, Oh

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Speaker 6: That's where I was. And then you know, it just

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Speaker 6: and he kind of was the push to be like,

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Speaker 6: look we're gonna put this out.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna change, and after it did, it was Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting that now that I know that story,

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Speaker 1: I understand like eighty five's energy, Like your your role

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Speaker 1: in this is you don't seem like you get rattled.

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Speaker 1: You don't seem like you worry. You don't seem like I.

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Speaker 7: Just seem too much. I've seen too much, I've been

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Speaker 7: through too much. So honestly, I think one of the

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Speaker 7: first times we had a conversation where I was just like, Yo,

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Speaker 7: this is going to work. I was in Vegas for

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Speaker 4: You would take a nap in Vegas for Drake's birthday?

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Speaker 7: Were going I took a nap, I woke up and

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Speaker 7: some song lyrics hit me, and they were the lyrics

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Speaker 7: that became the hook of Into Deep.

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Speaker 5: So I literally record a voice note on my.

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Speaker 7: Phone classic I send it to him. He's like, Yo,

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Speaker 7: what is this? And I called him. I'm like, Yo,

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Speaker 7: I don't know why, but something's telling me. I got

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Speaker 5: He's like, bro, what does that even mean.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm like, yo, I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 4: He in Vegas, he on Coke.

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Speaker 5: It was a vegan weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was a veganbout eighty five is taking a nap

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Speaker 1: and just like creative genius lyrics are just coming to

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Speaker 6: The wake up and mind you, this is this is,

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Speaker 6: this is at this point, this is my super successful

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Speaker 2: I'm in trenches Toronto. You know what I mean. I'm like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: my nigga, like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: That sounds great?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, spinning right.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, we lit, We're about to be up.

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Speaker 5: He's like, yo, go back to the party.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, I'm at the Scarborough Mall food court.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the eating center holding it down. Practice move,

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Speaker 1: paxte move. So you take a nap and these lyrics

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Speaker 1: come to you and then you're you have to tell

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Speaker 1: Daniels like basically you didn't know what it was.

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Speaker 3: He just sent you some voice note like figure this.

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Speaker 2: I think this could be adult hook. Figure out the

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Speaker 2: versus do whatever. My work is not too deep.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna run that. He's like, what does that even mean?

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Speaker 7: I was like, like we're gonna be big, Like we're

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Speaker 5: He's like, Yo, you're talking crazy right now. I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, like I think my feelings have

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Speaker 7: saying it was never from a place of like arrogance

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Speaker 7: And it's tough, you know, like I understand, like you're

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Speaker 5: Don't worry, baby, we god yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: People don't realize those like tiny little steps that keep

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Speaker 4: eighty five just got displacement. I have an opportunity now

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Speaker 4: to write. If you don't look at that as a

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Speaker 2: A little win over the same thing. I think we've

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Speaker 7: I think we've all had that shit when boy Wonder

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Speaker 7: and as he's saying minus and forty and all, like

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Speaker 7: my closest friends in the music industry, Yeah, the biggest

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Speaker 7: and I can see where he's going. So I always

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Speaker 7: this was going to be. If you don't see it

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Speaker 7: right now, just yo, just please just stay on that path.

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting with that vision of them of having

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Speaker 4: so much success finally with Hotline Bling and just hold on,

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Speaker 4: We're going home, which is clearly in the pop realm

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Speaker 4: to tell your man's that's not on yet, like no,

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Speaker 4: we staying full R and B. Fuck this because a

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Speaker 4: lot of producers be like, all right, I caught my

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Speaker 3: This is just what I do so now.

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Speaker 1: Toronto has always been a city with a lot of talent,

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Speaker 1: a lot of culture. I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 6: But to know that there's people like Deborah Cox or

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Speaker 6: I like that people are noticing the art and the

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Speaker 3: What has life been like since then?

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Speaker 7: based on seeing how personal becomes. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, it's really personal with the fans.

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Speaker 3: This amazing man of the people. You know, you got

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Speaker 4: Just quickly so we could we could wrap up the

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Speaker 7: They didn't get pitched we were already we were both

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Speaker 7: the labels, all the execs, do whatever. But if you

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Speaker 6: And that Yeah, it was very it's very old solid

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Speaker 2: Is it is it? Is it him? Is he does

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 6: I remember with that, right, So that turned into literally

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Speaker 2: So we didn't even open them.

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Speaker 6: We just literally left it there and we're like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 6: we know who's in there, Forty, what should we do?

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Speaker 6: And forty is like, look, I'll ride with you and

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Speaker 6: we're like, well, we're gonna fuck with the nigga that

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Speaker 6: The only thing that he came really told us was yo,

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Speaker 6: when you know Drake started coming to me and saying

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Speaker 2: Them about division and stuff like that, little things like that.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, Drake didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know where Drake was, Like, Yo, going to.

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Speaker 4: That's why, that's why women are the best in ours.

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Speaker 4: That's that's usually how men find I've had three girls

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Speaker 2: This how I found it about about Gunna.

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Speaker 6: It's definitely like a girl being like, Yo, there's this

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Speaker 2: All right? You know you hate because we're just.

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Speaker 3: What women tell us to Just like all right, like

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Speaker 4: Like, what's so trash is it's the complete opposite with podcasts. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, let me put you heard this pod?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, women put you on the podcast when they're trying

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Speaker 3: To heal you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you should listen to this is a great

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Speaker 1: like financial podcast, like you should listen to him. You

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Speaker 4: I want to ask, since you guys said, you were

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Speaker 3: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: No, because that was.

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Speaker 4: A big thing on the internet for very much.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys remember where that started?

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Speaker 3: Drake got Mexicans working in the studio.

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Speaker 6: No, that started because people were talking about how they

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Speaker 4: Around the just so on We're coming home ship because

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Speaker 7: What happened is he was explaining that people were sleeping

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Speaker 4: See that turns to everyone's just working at this camp

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with the internet, said how much much how

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Speaker 6: Hotline Blink from your producer? Oh my god, to be honest,

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Speaker 6: I'll be honest. First listen to Hotline Blank, I was like, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Did you hate before Drake got it? No, okay, I

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Speaker 4: I said, you think you could out sing Sampa on it?

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Speaker 2: Off the first listening Hotline Blank my first listen, I

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Speaker 3: Didn't he put out hotline Blink around the meat beef.

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Speaker 7: it's like similar vibes. But it wasn't you know, there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys, twitters kind of ask things from twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 6: Twitter's not real, guys, Yeah, but it's just it's it's

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Speaker 6: We just was in the studio where and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: like I'm not going home till it's finished.

442
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to go home.

443
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 6: Yeah you know, so if there's no beds in the studio,

444
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 6: fucking bring a mattress.

445
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know, it was that. So it is

446
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: what it is. It's just you know, the internet kind

447
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: of Internet.

448
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 4: Well I think that's probably a good segue into the

449
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: recent two weeks.

450
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Speaker 5: Oh man, the Internet. Internet.

451
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Speaker 4: Did you say Twitter is not a real place because

452
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Speaker 4: of some of the recent backlash of what's been going

453
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Speaker 4: on with.

454
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Speaker 6: The No, Twitter's not a real place. I say that

455
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 6: because I've seen so many things on Twitter.

456
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: That we're not really that's just it's just like where

457
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: is where does this come from?

458
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 6: Where does this stuff come from, and then you you

459
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 6: trace it back. And the crazy thing about Twitter, what

460
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 6: I will say, in reference to the recent uh outrage,

461
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 6: which we're going to get into, the reason why I

462
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 6: say it's not a real place is because I've read

463
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 6: some of the things, and then in two days, that

464
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 6: same account is saying the opposite.

465
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: Of course, it turns from how could you to nah,

466
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: this I ain't gonna lie, it's a bop, and I'm like, okay,

467
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: come on, what are we doing?

468
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 6: Which is just whoever thinks whatever they can say will

469
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 6: get liked or retweeted more.

470
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: It's because people, you know, people don't understand just human nature. Yes,

471
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: you hear something, you may not like it at first,

472
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: but you live with it. Feelings change, opinions changed. But

473
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: because you already put it out there when you first

474
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: heard it, and your reaction now it's like a week

475
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: later you're like, nah, this is all right, but now it's.

476
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: Like, yo, but you just killed the record. Well, you

477
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: have the ability you scroll back a week ago, you

478
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: was killing us, right, You.

479
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: Have the ability to say your first thought to everybody,

480
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: setting stone.

481
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's and that's what it is. It's setting stone.

482
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: We've seen it. We read it.

483
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: We can't unread it. But now it's like, okay, we

484
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: get it. Now you finally turned the corner and you

485
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: like the record.

486
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 4: Well, I feel like I have to be the moderator

487
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: for this because I was the only one not.

488
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 6: Involved, and if I get caught cheating, I mean the

489
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 6: stories about you.

490
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: Look at that look it looks so he started, he

491
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: got flushed. Look out all the blood breast from his face.

492
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: Now that's my natural complexion. First of all, that was

493
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 4: the That was when Twitter said that, and that was

494
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 4: a lie. I'm stealing your answer. Media is full of ship.

495
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: Since I was the only person at the stable not

496
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 4: involved with the record or the video, I feel like

497
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: I have to ask the questions about the video the

498
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: entire thing, because it stirred up and shout out to

499
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: l v r N for creating such a commotion before

500
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: the record came out with the rollout.

501
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: Great job.

502
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 4: I feel like something's derived from my rollout. But it's cool.

503
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: It's fine, justice you.

504
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: That's the white privilege talk. They steal from my culture

505
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: and they say you.

506
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Took my culture.

507
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: That's cool. I get I get it. People record and understand.

508
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: I was the first one to ever do that. I

509
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: was the first person to put someone on camera to

510
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: talk about the record. Absolutely, So you guys do the

511
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: rollout cause a lot of commotion. Every single Instagram account

512
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: pulls it up, and then the record drops with more

513
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: on the video. And it was the most split decision

514
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 4: I've ever seen on a record in my entire life,

515
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: which is which is what I think in a way

516
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: way the vision is about.

517
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's where I think y'all try to

518
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: like divide because that is gonna keep the that's what

519
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: you want.

520
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: Like what are the women saying? What are the fellas saying?

521
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll let you finish. I must say something my first.

522
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: I mean just from my point of view when that

523
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: commotion happened and people were asking me like, oh, I mean,

524
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm not really feeling the record, Like why would they

525
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: do all that ship around that record. I'm like, I'm

526
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 4: gonna take you that's the point of a rollout, right,

527
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: which is why it was great.

528
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what it wasn't looking at it.

529
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: The promo clip, the JD textan hole about the sample.

530
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: People were expecting an entirely different sample from Jay. They

531
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: weren't just expecting the bar of the line. They was

532
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: expecting like a whole thing, setting the song cry beat

533
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: to come and back me to be pouring my heart

534
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: out back. I think that's what they were, which is

535
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: like okay, but no, you went the more blues route

536
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: with the three count.

537
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: That is like it's easy on the air, you catch

538
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: as soon as you hear it.

539
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: And it made people like like whoa. And now they

540
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: listened like if you get caught cheating like that, don't

541
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: mean you don't love me?

542
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: Like what you made the talk? Do what I mean?

543
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: And they're hearing and because that clip, right, that clip is.

544
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 6: A gang of regular ass niggas singing right, so they're like,

545
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 6: division what you usually sound like an angel and now

546
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 6: you sound like this And it's like, no, that's the

547
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 6: you're not getting the song context. But again, purposeful things count,

548
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 6: Justice and lvr N. Because I thought them about that clip,

549
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 6: I said, Yo, why don't we give them a little

550
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 6: bit more of the you know, the early spots, so

551
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 6: this just they can get the song context.

552
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 3: Before I think it was great.

553
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 6: He's like, nah, hit him with this, because that hook

554
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 6: is the catchiest thing in twenty twenty two.

555
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: It is going to catch everybody. And on top of that,

556
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: it is.

557
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 6: Going to shock people because they're going to have to

558
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 6: say something.

559
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 4: And start the convers So and start this conversation, I

560
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 4: will ask, was the purpose of it for everyone to

561
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: like it? Because how music is put out now you

562
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: have to start a conversation. I know he's saying social

563
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: media not real, but as far as promotion, it very

564
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 4: much is to put out music now to start a buzz.

565
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: The best way is a split decision. I feel like

566
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: those certain records that you want to start a project

567
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: out with can't be the unanimous this is the one

568
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: that everyone's going to go to because the Internet is

569
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: fueled so much on debate and dislike. That's the way

570
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: things spread. So was that intentional to make a record

571
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 4: that was probably outside of the traditional division sound and

572
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: with the context.

573
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 7: It was intentional to be outside of the exact things

574
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 7: we've done, But the context and even just the thought

575
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 7: going into it is very similar to we've always been.

576
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 4: I know that, you know, but sometimes when things are

577
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: sung beautifully, people don't pay attention to the writing and

578
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: it may sound like a very beautiful things like no,

579
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: this is a really fucked up guy.

580
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 6: What I'll say is what I will say is definitely

581
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 6: wasn't the thought going into the record, but definitely the

582
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 6: thought going into let's.

583
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: Put this out first.

584
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, because even what you're saying about, like the focus

585
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 6: group with the rollout, that didn't come from us having

586
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 6: an idea for a rollout, that came from what was

587
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 6: actually happening in real life. And that study you've walked

588
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 6: into for sure. Right, So, what we used to we

589
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 6: were piling people in the rooms and playing records.

590
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: We used to do that, Me and JD.

591
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 6: We go to the club, go to magic, go to here,

592
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 6: go wherever, bring people eighty five day, let's bring these

593
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 6: people bow house here, tell bow to bring these girls,

594
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 6: come to the studio, pilm in. We're gonna play stuff,

595
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: just see what happens. And every time we played that record,

596
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 6: the room would burst into argument. Every single time we

597
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 6: come back in half an hour, the room is still arguing.

598
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: What is happening?

599
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've never five minutes later, still, we've never seen

600
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 6: that with an R and B record. We've never seen

601
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 6: that with a record that almost men unanimously.

602
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 5: I've never seen any record.

603
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: We've never seen that.

604
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think.

605
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 6: I've seen that where it forces you to have to

606
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 6: like take a stance. So we're like, okay, cool. We

607
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 6: thought we just went in here and said some really

608
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 6: honest ship. But it's having this reaction.

609
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 5: I get what.

610
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it now that I'm hearing the perspectives.

611
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: I get what you guys are hearing versus what I'm

612
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: actually saying. And that's another thing. I'm gonna break that

613
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: down in a second.

614
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 6: But that alone made us say, you know what, this

615
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 6: is a great place for us to start the story

616
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 6: of the album because this particular place, you know, mainly

617
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 6: deals with you know, the ego, and it mainly deals with,

618
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 6: you know, something that's going to cause a converse people

619
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 6: to have to talk about some real things that they're

620
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 6: not used to talking about.

621
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: Well, then let me ask, as actual by the way

622
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: musicians for First Records in twenty twenty two, what's more

623
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: important replay value.

624
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Or conversation.

625
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: Both?

626
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: I think both, well, of course both.

627
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 6: But I think if I had to have to pick one,

628
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 6: I think if I had to pick a song that

629
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 6: people played a million times versus people talked about a

630
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 6: million times, I mean, I guess I guess the plays

631
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: because the place is what pay pays you at.

632
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: The end of the day.

633
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: It gets you in the algorithms.

634
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 6: But I think, I think conversations incite more plays. Yeah,

635
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: because now we have a conversation, So now I got

636
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 6: to go back here, and now I got to debate it.

637
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 6: Now I got to tell somebody else this, And that's

638
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 6: what creates this spiral, Like this record is already playing

639
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 6: on radio station. We haven't sent it to the radio yet.

640
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 6: Today is actually the day, like, oh wow, it goes

641
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 6: to green right, so it's already been playing, It's already

642
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 6: been in certain people's countdowns already.

643
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: We haven't we haven't even sent it yet, right, you

644
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: know when that I know that's.

645
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 6: Because of the conversation and also obviously the hook is

646
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 6: super catchy. But sure, aside from that conversation, yeah, shut

647
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: it from off, making up singing on.

648
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Thank you.

649
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 6: I appreciate it, but yeah, sorry, where are you at

650
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: with this?

651
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: I think also what started the conversation goodbye Justice?

652
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah am?

653
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: I also think the timing of it when it came

654
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: out with Brent's album just dropping and everyone around Brent

655
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: the conversation is always toxic, toxic, toxic. He's toxic and

656
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: now R and B I feel like, which I don't

657
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: feel like, it's a fact, is very much toxic than

658
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: it is love. I think a lot of the feedback was,

659
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: all right, we've known division to make real R and

660
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: B traditional ship and again they don't really read the lyrics.

661
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: They just it feels like real R and B love shit.

662
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: I think people were like, how far are we going

663
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: to go with this toxic shit? Is R and B

664
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: ever going to come back to actual love?

665
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: But R and B has always been a little toxic,

666
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's rhythm and blues. Blues I think is

667
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: a toxic thing. Like when you really think about.

668
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: It, well, the I think the psychology of it, if

669
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: you get into it. Yes, there's love songs that we

670
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: deem this is a love. R and B song can

671
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: be very toxic, but it feels like love. It feels

672
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: like something you play around your partner when you guys

673
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: are in love, not beefing. R and B now, for

674
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: the most part, is just straight toxic from the women's

675
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: side and the man's side. Yeah, which, as we've even

676
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: seen went over into the female RAAP side. Everything is

677
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: toxic with the chicks are saying and the dudes are

678
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: replying with just toxic shit as well. Is R and

679
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: be in a place where it can come back to love?

680
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: And is that something you guys focused on at all?

681
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 4: I think or it felt like you contributed to the

682
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: toxic side and just leaned into it with the first record.

683
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 7: I think this record is a great example of people

684
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 7: will pay attention to what they want to pay attention to,

685
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 7: and a lot of times that's the more negative stuff.

686
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 7: There's a lot of great positive R and B out there,

687
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 7: nobody's talking about it, nobody cares. So there's a lot

688
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 7: of smooth stuff.

689
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of other people drop the day that

690
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: we dropped.

691
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of real central R and B happening.

692
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Neo dropped the same.

693
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people dropped.

694
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 7: There's so much out there, but there's no reason for

695
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 7: people to have the conversation about that.

696
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: Why, you know, like why.

697
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: We know that part? Yeah we know what, Yeah we

698
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: get that. Yeah.

699
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: So we didn't do it with that intention, but we

700
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 7: knew the way people were reacting. The reaction is going

701
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 7: to be different than the other songs we've had that

702
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 7: are fully love songs.

703
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 6: You know, been one of the truest to that form.

704
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 6: I would say in the past five years of this

705
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 6: new generation, I don't think it's debatable that division has

706
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 6: been probably the truest, if not if not if not

707
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 6: one of the truest, the absolute truest to that traditional sound,

708
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 6: feeling and aesthetic of the R and B and the

709
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 6: love song and.

710
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: The get your girl back, the heartbreak, and that that's

711
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: been our for sure, our thing.

712
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: Right.

713
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: So the fact that this record alone is the most

714
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: talked about one song we've ever had says something about

715
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: the thing, says something about you guys us right right.

716
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 6: So what I will say is this, I don't think

717
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: the record is toxic, and I've been saying this from

718
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 6: Dump Jump. I think the record is honest. And the

719
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 6: reason the difference that I have with that is toxic

720
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 6: to me sounds like.

721
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a bunch of things that have no

722
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: they almost have no.

723
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 6: It's almost like I'm going to go out of my

724
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 6: way to try to incite something negative or something that's

725
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 6: going to bring out.

726
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: Of you.

727
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 6: A pettiness or like a deviousness, or just to prove

728
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: I'm a slimeball.

729
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: Right, this bait, this song, this song.

730
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 6: When I heard first time we walked in the studio,

731
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 6: Jermaine starts singing this literally on the door open. You've

732
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 6: been in the studio, you know, on the first door,

733
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 6: first door boom. He's going, I mean I don't love you.

734
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that should have been on Confessions one.

735
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: As soon as he said that. As soon as he

736
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: said that, I was like, oh my god, what is that?

737
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: What is that like?

738
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: I want to say that because I felt that before,

739
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: as a man that has done some wrong things while

740
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 6: being in love, I related to that.

741
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: Right, My cheating had nothing to do with our love.

742
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 6: I get it, Yeah, because that's how I wired it

743
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 6: in my brain. I just went out and did some

744
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 6: dumb ass, selfish funck shit.

745
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: And and because of that, I've hurt the person.

746
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 6: Or maybe she doesn't know, but either way, it didn't

747
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: mean I stopped loving you. I stopped loving you the

748
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 6: moment I did it, right, So, I thought that was

749
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 6: an interesting conversation. So, but what I actually sat down

750
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: and wrote about wasn't even that. What I sat down

751
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 6: and wrote about was being in a relationship with someone

752
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 6: that thinks you might be cheating on them.

753
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: I thought you about to say that things, she loved them.

754
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: No, he's crazy.

755
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: You might be cheating on so reality.

756
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: Thank god damn.

757
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 6: So I'm writing this like, yo, everything that attracted you

758
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 6: to me has now turned into your insecurities in this relationship.

759
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: Sure, which happened.

760
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: That's why when I.

761
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 6: Said I'm a fly nigga when you got here, charismatic

762
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 6: when you got here, some people heard that and they thought, oh,

763
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 6: i was flys charismatic, So you know I'm going to

764
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 6: be out here with these hoes.

765
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: It's not No, it was I was all these things.

766
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 6: And that's why I say, and now you got my

767
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 6: phone in your hands, questions, not again, why do we

768
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 6: do this?

769
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Really? The truth is because I'm trying to say.

770
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 6: Look, hey, you liked me because I dress well, I

771
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 6: look good. I can have a girl's funny guy, I'm

772
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 6: cool to be around.

773
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Well blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

774
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: We all know women love you for your characteristics, and

775
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: then once you're in a relationship, no one else is

776
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: allowed to learn. That's if I make you laugh, I'm

777
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: funny and all that. You laughed at all my jokes.

778
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: Now I'm not funny.

779
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: Why you got to be so funny.

780
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: So now you're going out, You're going funny.

781
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: Oh you want to be all on the people's faces.

782
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Knew that I did. I'm a party promoter, I'm you know,

783
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm an artist. These are fans.

784
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what.

785
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm writing the song from the perspective of. And then

786
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do we do this? Really?

787
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 6: The truth is because I'm like, hey, listen, nothing is

788
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 6: going on first and foremost. But even if it was,

789
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 6: if the hypothetical, if I was doing this, don't think

790
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 6: for a second that.

791
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: That meant that all of a sudden I fell out

792
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: of love.

793
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 6: With you and did that. Like you're looking for stuff

794
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 6: to do? What to upset yourself or to lead? Because

795
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 6: if you're looking for stuff, you're.

796
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: Digging through phones, you're checking the laptops. Are you looking

797
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: for a reason to lead?

798
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 6: So if the answer is yes, why do you want

799
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 6: to leave here when you're in a relationship with someone

800
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: that actually.

801
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: Loves you and actually whatever? Yeah, I might do something.

802
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 6: I might have fucked up if I want to do that,

803
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 6: but that wasn't because I didn't love you.

804
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: Like, my.

805
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 6: Theory on cheating is it's more of an ego thing

806
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 6: than it is a love thing more of an emotional thing.

807
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: People do that when they want to stroke their own ego.

808
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 6: People do that when they don't give care enough about

809
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 6: the person's egos that they're dealing right. People do that

810
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 6: when they are having a moment of self indulgence, a

811
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 6: moment of selfishness, and they're just like, I'm doing this

812
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 6: for me. That's why every guy can understand why certain guys,

813
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 6: even though they might have a high profile woman or

814
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: a beautiful woman, a person that the world looks at

815
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: is beautiful, steps out and the guy cheats. Every guy

816
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 6: knows exactly what's going on. It had nothing to do

817
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 6: with the girl. Every girl's like, how could you cheat

818
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 6: on her? It's so beautiful, amazing? She has the bad

819
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 6: and we're like, yo, it has nothing to do with her.

820
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: And a lot of and a lot of male minds

821
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 6: commonly is what you hear now?

822
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Mind you, women some of them do the same thing.

823
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 6: Sure, some of them more commonly we hear women do

824
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 6: when they cheat.

825
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: They would never women would never cheat.

826
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, they they We hear more about them that

827
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 6: they motionally check out before they do this. There's some void,

828
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 6: there's some lack of something here. So I went out

829
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 6: and and and did this.

830
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: Somebody gets blamed on men, and when men, it gets

831
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: blamed on men doesn't get or.

832
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 6: Doesn't get caught, it doesn't get caught.

833
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 4: But if they do get caught or even talking with

834
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: their homegirls. I did it because he made me.

835
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: Here.

836
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 3: Mind you, but there is girls that.

837
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: Just want some dick, just wanted to which I could

838
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: respect more than trying to be like, oh I just

839
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: didn't do enough.

840
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 1: I don't respect those heathens. Women just want get away

841
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: from me.

842
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 4: I take that over the bullshit of just like you

843
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: just weren't doing enough at home.

844
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 3: No, that is you're probably not got Wait, that's why.

845
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 4: You cast him in the video which you're talking about.

846
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm just he just I thought he's my man.

847
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: Why the casting director was amazing?

848
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm wait, okay, So my thing is, so let's let's

849
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about it from the woman's perspective, right, as

850
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: four men, Yeah, as four men, let's talk about it

851
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: from the woman's of course. Uh So, if your girl cheats,

852
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: if your girl gets caught cheated, right, do you forgive her?

853
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 2: And do you stay?

854
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: Are you asking Daniel, I'm asking Daniel me what I've

855
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 6: realized about where I'm at right now, oh ship, No,

856
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: because yo, whenever niggas realize where they at and like

857
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 6: to talk about this.

858
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm with Daniel already. I know where you're going.

859
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: I feel the same way sight ahead, my bad, where

860
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: you're at your life right now?

861
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: Right now?

862
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

863
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I know how I'm going to

864
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: enter a relationship.

865
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: Okay, with with hose.

866
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 6: With the know how I'm going to enter a relationship. Yeah,

867
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have that in my current parameters. That's something

868
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 6: that's okay. Did you just say in your current parameters? Yeah,

869
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 6: his boundary, No, because I've done that.

870
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: Okay, what I can say, what I can say its parameters.

871
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: I can say I've done that. I've done that.

872
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: You done what I've been in a relationship where I

873
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 6: was ninety something percent sure.

874
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: This girl cheated on my mind. You we went on

875
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: a break, shifty ship.

876
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: The break loock.

877
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, I used to but in my mind that's

878
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 6: just fat In my mind, the break happened because you

879
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 6: probably already were.

880
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, right right right, Oh.

881
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: That's where my head was.

882
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and no, I didn't go back immediately, but I

883
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 6: left the space open for her to like, let me see,

884
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 6: let me see how hard you go?

885
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah. I've also been the guy where

886
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: it's like you cheat on me? Are you? Are you

887
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: out of your mind?

888
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: Right? Right?

889
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: Are you think I'm gonna stay with it? I've been

890
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: on both sides of the fence.

891
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: Okay.

892
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 6: So where i I'm at right now, I'm like, listen,

893
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 6: I want a situation where me and the person that

894
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: I'm with we can set are like, Okay, look, what's okay,

895
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 6: what's not okay?

896
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: What can you accept? What can you not accept? All

897
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 2: that stuff?

898
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: And let's just iron out our own situation. So if

899
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 6: in that you violate, No, I'm not going to say.

900
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 7: What if What if you're getting to know a certain someone,

901
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 7: you know that you're not completely exclusive to her, and

902
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 7: she tells.

903
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 5: You that she has other things happening, but what we're

904
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 5: not dating it? Yeah? Are you immediately like?

905
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: Eh, am I fucking raw?

906
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 6: WHOA yes, came in a little, he came in in

907
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 6: a little.

908
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, right to it.

909
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Let's let's say let's say let's say you fucked

910
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 6: thirty times.

911
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: You fucked thirty.

912
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 4: Times, counting how much you fucked is crazy.

913
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 6: Fuck you fucked thirty times and imagine put it four

914
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 6: of those times have been raw.

915
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not believing that if you tell

916
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: me you had sex with a chick thirty times and

917
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: you only smell the.

918
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: First, the first twenty times, twenty six, one, thirty times,

919
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 6: twenty six.

920
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: Times, jimmied up four times.

921
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't think no nigga has put on twenty six

922
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: condoms with chick. I have for twenty six condoms.

923
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: I have no kids today.

924
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: How do you think put on twenty six condoms in

925
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: your life?

926
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: No? Twenty six one girl? Thousand percent? I am sick.

927
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 6: And when does trust for Jimmy General trust Jimmy General.

928
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: Girl.

929
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 3: No, I'm Jimmy General as well. But I'm just saying,

930
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: with one.

931
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 5: Girl control, is that a trust?

932
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: Twenty six twenty six rubbish?

933
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: Especially if I'm hitting a couple of times.

934
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: With inflation right now too?

935
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: How much I'm gonna get twenty six condoms and just

936
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: open them and throw them on the floor.

937
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: Just look at them.

938
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: You gotta get you gotta How do you feel like that?

939
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 6: You like that's two that's that's two twelve packs.

940
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: It's not that big.

941
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: Wow, you go through twelve packs with a chick.

942
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: Bro, that's a good time amount of time.

943
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 4: What about the four? Though that she was raw?

944
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: The the four happened after that, So let's say you

945
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: want to start amount twenty.

946
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: Six is your time to whatever? We have trust the

947
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: quarter century mark?

948
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, will I stay? If a girl was to say, hey, you,

949
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

950
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 5: You know you're talking to other people, but this might

951
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: be the one you're trying to.

952
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm trying to get there with her. Yeah, she's

953
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 6: she's kind of like she's leading the pack. Yeah okay,

954
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 6: and then she's still.

955
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: She has other guys that she's there.

956
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: She is the guy.

957
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, am I leading the pack?

958
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: Okay?

959
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're her favorite guys? You're leading, she tells you.

960
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: Then you cat, but you're not hitting it roll.

961
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: So you can't be leading the pack because the nigga

962
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: that's leading the pack is not wearing a condom.

963
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you that right now.

964
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: That might be a fact.

965
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: That's a fact the nigga that she loves. You can't

966
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: love a nigga.

967
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: You can't love a condoms. I'm leading.

968
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: You can't fall in love through a condom.

969
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 6: Bro, it's not bro, You can't fall in love with

970
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 6: a girl. Why that's the one barrier love can't break?

971
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: Does the body? The body even count with a rubber one?

972
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: No, I count you individual.

973
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: Am I staying in the situation or are you saying

974
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 6: am I you?

975
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: Are you continuing to pursue it with the same level.

976
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: Same vigor.

977
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I gotta feel like eighty five is asking you this.

978
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: He has the answers already. He does like his energy

979
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: is like, Yo, you're talking to me.

980
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: I think that, Okay, I think that people want to

981
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: hear these Yeah, you're right.

982
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 6: I think that if if she is actively seeing and

983
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 6: sleeping with other people and I am active sleeping with

984
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: other people at the same time, I'm gonna definitely have

985
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 6: to take us stop and take a real good.

986
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: Look at this whole situation because a monkey pop.

987
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 6: No, because I'd be like, yo, we're both on this,

988
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 6: We're both you already were Yeah, because.

989
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, let's let's cut.

990
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

991
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Listen, as men, we can never tolerate that.

992
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is

993
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: that knowing that knowing.

994
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 5: That you don't want to know.

995
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: That's where I was going to go with what I

996
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: know not knowing.

997
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is that means me knowing that, me

998
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: knowing that, and me doing it at the same time.

999
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 6: I think that the two of them together because I'm

1000
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: already dealing with my own Concentay, let me ask you

1001
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: a question for me dealing with my own men. Yeah,

1002
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 6: you start to get to know her and that's the

1003
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 6: only woman you're talking to the last time in your life.

1004
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: That's the only girl at the time.

1005
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 6: There's no hang, there's no you've never done that, there's

1006
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 6: no there's nothing.

1007
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: Some limited texting for a reason.

1008
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: Why walking to no, no, No. I can't remember exactly why.

1009
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: It's been a while.

1010
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 5: So what I'm saying is if that's talking to.

1011
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 6: Seriously or talking to try to find a semantics, don't

1012
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 6: play the semantics.

1013
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: Yes, and you're dated somebody and you you're dating other women,

1014
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: and then you know she's dating other guys.

1015
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: I know I've done that.

1016
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: That's something I could I can talk to women are

1017
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: talking to other.

1018
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Men one thousand.

1019
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying it I could deal with knowing

1020
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 6: you talk to other guys, yes.

1021
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 5: But you can't deal with knowing which part I'm.

1022
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: Saying what I would.

1023
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, you said you could deal with it.

1024
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: I could deal with if.

1025
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 6: It's just a gross her, I start talking to Okay,

1026
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: you could deal with that. The reason I'm saying I could,

1027
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 6: The reason I'm saying that, where it becomes a problem

1028
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 6: is when it's like, Okay, now I'm going to be

1029
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 6: actively doing this, you're actively doing this. I would probably

1030
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 6: stop and be like, Okay, look where are we actually headed?

1031
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 5: Oh, you're gonna hit her with what I w are we? Wow?

1032
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a very that's a very no.

1033
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: I would. I would.

1034
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 6: I would, especially just the girl that I'm trying to

1035
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 6: promote to the like you're the only ones status. I'm

1036
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 6: one hundred percent gonna be like, hey, where are we at?

1037
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 6: But that's the question I'm gonna have with myself first,

1038
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 6: and then I'm gonna go probably have that with her.

1039
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: We're like, yo, what if she tells you we are

1040
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: wherever you want it to be?

1041
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 6: So basically like, if I'm still dating women, so if

1042
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: you promote me, if you promote me to that spot,

1043
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 6: all these niggas are gone. If you don't, I'm gonna

1044
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 6: keep letting letting homies smash that's sad.

1045
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: Let homie smash. No, she's letting him.

1046
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1047
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 6: I'm saying, So if she doesn't, she's gonna keep She's

1048
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 6: gonna keep talking to the other guys.

1049
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: So you're saying, yeah, if you don't promote you, so

1050
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: what if I don't put it. If I don't put her,

1051
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: don't make her wife. Yeah, she's gonna keep dating other guys.

1052
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: I hate when women answer that, Oh, I'll just meet

1053
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 4: you where you're at. I'm a dirt bag. If you

1054
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: want to meet me where I'm at to be, I'm

1055
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: judging honest.

1056
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: To be honest, I have to I have to respect.

1057
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: I'd have to respect that.

1058
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: I'd have to respect it. But I tell her, you

1059
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: shouldn't live that, be yourself, And that's what I'm saying.

1060
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: That's who I'm trying to say.

1061
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 7: This is themselves. They just don't show it. They they're

1062
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 7: being themselves. They're just not telling you. So now you're

1063
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 7: getting the girls.

1064
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: But it hurts more when you find out, Like if

1065
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: you if you feel like you're dating somebody and you

1066
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: don't know that she's dating other guys, if you find

1067
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: out that ship does like affect you it affects the relationship.

1068
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all don't have to be serious. You cant, because

1069
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: I'll be honest.

1070
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: If I'm with a girl and I'm already thinking I

1071
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: know that she has other things going on, I want

1072
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: to know everything. Yes, I do.

1073
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: Oh so you don't enjoy sleep?

1074
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: No, I want to know?

1075
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, wonder he was sleep on a mattress, was

1076
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 4: doing if I've got great sleep?

1077
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: He woke up new lyrics to them.

1078
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: Do ragoed in the mirror, Like I'm trying to like, like,

1079
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: I want to know what she's doing right now.

1080
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: If I'm going to.

1081
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 6: Promote somebody to that spot and I'm already seeing other people,

1082
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 6: I'm still kind of seeing other random little things here

1083
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 6: and there. Yeah, I'm probably having the debate with my

1084
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 6: conscience already for.

1085
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 7: Where you do what you want to do because you

1086
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 7: want to do it and not because of what she's doing.

1087
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 8: Why do you have to give the woman the option

1088
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 8: if you don't like the women's general answer of like

1089
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 8: whatever you want to do. Instead of giving them the option,

1090
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 8: just be straightforward and say, hey, I'm ready to be

1091
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 8: with you. What do you want to do? Okay, versus

1092
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 8: saying like well, whatever you want to do.

1093
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: I want to do.

1094
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: So you don't know how the male ego works, because

1095
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: God forbid, I say yo, I want to do this,

1096
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: and she goes.

1097
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: No, no, to be honest, to be honest, to be honest.

1098
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: I could do that. I could do that.

1099
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 6: And that's kind of what I was talking about when

1100
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 6: I'm saying what are we I mean, like, yo, listen,

1101
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 6: I see you like this. This is kind of this

1102
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 6: is kind of where I'm trying to go, but it

1103
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 6: kind of seems like you might still have this and

1104
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 6: this and this.

1105
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: And so where trying to.

1106
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 5: Don't you just come out and say like, yo, it's

1107
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 5: us right now.

1108
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 6: No, because I'm not. I'm that's different. That's I'm not

1109
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 6: going to come out and be like, yo, it's us. No, nigga,

1110
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 6: it's not.

1111
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1112
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: It's the point.

1113
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: Because women are also the master manipulators. They'll say like, oh,

1114
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: he's suffocating me.

1115
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I would like that.

1116
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 6: Not yes me personally, I wouldn't do that. I would

1117
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 6: come at her and say, look, this is what I

1118
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 6: want to do. Is what I want to do.

1119
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 7: Obviously, if you're coming out a girl like that is

1120
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 7: because you already know I'm not going to.

1121
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 6: Say, hey, yo, it's you and me now, because she'd

1122
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: be like, okay, okay, cut him up to due not

1123
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 6: but you can say, listen, look, I want to do this.

1124
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 6: I'm feeling you like i've seen you, like just you

1125
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 6: want to be you and me. That's where are you

1126
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 6: trying to go with this? Yeah, that's the conversation that

1127
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 6: I would have.

1128
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: On the other side of that as a woman ever

1129
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: came to y'all and said, we can no longer do

1130
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 4: this because I'm taking it's serious with another guy.

1131
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 5: No, I've heard that before.

1132
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 4: Wait what because because we're saying all this and like,

1133
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell this girl, yo, I want.

1134
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 5: To just be you and I.

1135
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm not okay, that's different.

1136
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: Like if you give it to already, like yo, listen,

1137
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm on some other ship right now. We

1138
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: could just have fun dy you know what I'm saying,

1139
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: see each other from time to time. Then if she's like, yo, listen,

1140
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: there's somebody else I've been seeing, like you know, things

1141
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: are getting kind of ship.

1142
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: I think women are holier than that because there's been

1143
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: plenty of times that I've gotten ghosted after a chick

1144
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: that I was just fucking like, she doesn't answer my

1145
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: two am text anymore, and I'm like, oh, yeah, all right,

1146
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: she probably just found the guy that she actually likes.

1147
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: But a woman has never maturely sat me down and like, hey,

1148
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: we can no longer do this because.

1149
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not the sit down.

1150
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 4: But I had a situation women just want all this

1151
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: direct ship and never do it themselves.

1152
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 5: You guys direct before that?

1153
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: Sure, come through?

1154
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: Come through? It's sick.

1155
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're doing to?

1156
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 5: All right?

1157
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: Hit me when you done? Direct?

1158
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: Not direct?

1159
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 5: We are directly gonna have sex?

1160
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, direct someone direct as far as we know

1161
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: what tom it is. We text each other on Saturdays

1162
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: and you know where you're at, all right, if you're

1163
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: not doing nothing, come.

1164
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 7: Through, I mean directors. And she would be like, yo,

1165
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 7: how many other girls you got? You're like, I have

1166
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 7: time to this girl to like that type of wrecked

1167
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 7: be comfortable to it.

1168
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I've had that conversation before, like, hey,

1169
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: fuck with someone else, like I had.

1170
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: I had a situation where where I was with I was, we.

1171
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: Haven't rought sex with someone. You need to have those

1172
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 4: conversations for sure. I had so I'm not even trying

1173
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 4: to be responsible.

1174
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 5: I'm having a bunch of.

1175
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: I had a situation with a girl.

1176
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm not having sex with anyone.

1177
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 6: I had a situation when a girl that was my

1178
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 6: one of my old things, and we we linked back

1179
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 6: up and we uh, I don't know why I was

1180
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 6: in a hotel because I was definitely in Toronto, but

1181
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 6: we went to a hotel.

1182
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: Theas I don't know why.

1183
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 6: I was trying to think why, But anyways, we went

1184
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 6: to a hotel and you know, she was kind of like,

1185
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 6: I have I have a man, and she's like, I

1186
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: guess I'm about to go cheat on my man. She

1187
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 6: literally said this out loud. It's happened to me too,

1188
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: and we you know, we did whatever. And the next

1189
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 6: morning she just kind of was like, look, so what

1190
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 6: are we gonna do because this nigga is ready to

1191
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 6: straight up marrying me, Like he's ready to propose.

1192
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: So either you step up or I'm gonna just but.

1193
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: See that eighty five.

1194
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: So that what is hurtful because it's like she's basically saying,

1195
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: like he's ready to propose, I don't really want to

1196
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: be with him.

1197
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: That's how I'm interpreted that ship him.

1198
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, not to him, but it's like the other guy.

1199
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't ever want to be the I.

1200
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 7: Feel like a lot of women choose the stability for

1201
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 7: sure and the thing that makes more.

1202
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: Stable at that time.

1203
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 5: So I get it.

1204
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: I understand. If you got to go with go with

1205
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: where s the for sure?

1206
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: Go with the for sure. Let's go with the for

1207
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: sure you can.

1208
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: If you can afford a Lamborghini in New York City, great,

1209
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: but there's potholes. It's not a stable car. You're gonna

1210
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: have to get it fixed every time. Go get the

1211
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: s u V and something. The rest of your pay cool.

1212
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 6: If I'm about if I'm about to if I'm about

1213
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 6: to promote my girl, if I'm.

1214
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was hoping you keep changing the adjective.

1215
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 6: But if I want to take my if I want

1216
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 6: to take a girl that I'm just kind of talking

1217
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 6: to and and I like her, and I want to

1218
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 6: make her the girl that I really fully invest in,

1219
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 6: and I'm seeing other people my conscience, my conscience is

1220
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 6: already going to be playing with me at that point.

1221
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 6: So that that's what I was trying to say before,

1222
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 6: where it's like, if my conscience is playing with me

1223
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 6: with myself and then her and then now I'm at

1224
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 6: it in with oh and.

1225
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: She has X y Z on the side.

1226
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 6: That's what will make me stop and be like, Okay,

1227
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 6: what are we really going to do? And that's a

1228
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 6: conversation I have with myself and then I have it

1229
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 6: with her. I might come to her and be like,

1230
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 6: this is what I want to do? Are you down

1231
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 6: to do this? But I'm definitely I want to be

1232
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 6: your boyfriend?

1233
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 5: Are you to be my girlfriend? Yeah?

1234
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like, listen, you're I want to I

1235
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 6: want I want us to go with I want us

1236
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 6: to go here?

1237
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: What's going on over there?

1238
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: And what needs to be said for you to be

1239
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: like all right?

1240
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 4: Reluctant and in twenty twenty two? Is that something you're

1241
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 4: capable of period right now?

1242
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 2: Daniel?

1243
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah?

1244
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: Not division, Daniel?

1245
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it? Am I capable of?

1246
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 4: What?

1247
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1248
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: Being in a relationship doing the Hey I'm your could.

1249
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 7: I have been there doing a faithful monogamous relationship.

1250
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: With nobody with a girl that's not with a girl

1251
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 4: that's not by sexual What do.

1252
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: You mean nobody else?

1253
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: Like a faithful I can't even breathe that nobody else like, no.

1254
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: A faithful monogamous situation does not being one right now?

1255
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes you could.

1256
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could do it.

1257
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: I believe that. I believe it could. I believe it could.

1258
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, his partner and man has just laughed.

1259
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1260
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: I could.

1261
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 7: When do you ask a question and somebody's like, so,

1262
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 7: what do you mean by that, it normally means there's.

1263
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 6: Some stipulation because you just the way you presented it.

1264
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: I was like, mad, say like, you're going to put

1265
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 2: more and more confidence just just faithful. Yeah, yeah I could.

1266
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: I could do it. I couldn't do for sure.

1267
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: Means could Jo have created this album that's coming out

1268
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 4: if everyone was faithful and monogamous? Does the content suffer

1269
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 4: in the music?

1270
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: I think that if we didn't.

1271
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 6: I think that if we were guys that have never

1272
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 6: been on the other side of the fence, we wouldn't

1273
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 6: be able to talk about certain things the side where

1274
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 6: we've done things that we can look Yeah.

1275
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

1276
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: I've definitely been somebody that's been in.

1277
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 6: A long parks of no tax money, long term faithful relationship,

1278
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 6: and I've also been somebody that's been in shorter term

1279
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 6: relationships where I stepped out.

1280
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: I've done both. You know, I understand what it takes

1281
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: to do one.

1282
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 6: That's why that's why I say I can, because I've

1283
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 6: successfully done it in my life.

1284
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: I know where that meant in space is.

1285
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 5: You would do that right now? Yeah?

1286
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: I could do that?

1287
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: But would I do that?

1288
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 5: Everybody can?

1289
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: But did it end for non monogamous reasons? Did it

1290
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: end because of non monogamous reasons? You know that's the word.

1291
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 6: You know what you honest? I've never a girl's never

1292
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 6: left me. So even when a girl never left me,

1293
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 6: I have fucked up and it's created terrible situation. But

1294
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 6: we worked through it and let her leave.

1295
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 5: Because it's a difference. The difference is still never left.

1296
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,959
Speaker 7: I'm not holding them physically like that because every guy

1297
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 7: knows there's a point of relationship where they might come

1298
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 7: at coming to you with certain ultimatums and you're like, okay,

1299
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 7: I'll fix that.

1300
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 5: Okay, So you mean that has happened.

1301
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: I love the fact that this has turned into like

1302
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: y'all to like, that's why I'm trying to like, didn't

1303
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: know Daniel a little more?

1304
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. So you're saying that did she

1305
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: put new stipulations on me that I have to meet.

1306
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, don't cheat. M hm.

1307
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 7: So I feel like when you say it like that,

1308
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, anybody can kind of say this is

1309
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

1310
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 6: I over the same girl.

1311
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: Once who for first, thank you.

1312
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked that I'm messy.

1313
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 5: Did I understand?

1314
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: I did you know? Back? So I'm mad. I this

1315
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: is the you did it?

1316
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 5: No, no, no, this is weird. That's weird. But I literally

1317
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 5: to yo, you got a problem with Yeah, that's me.

1318
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 5: Here's what happened.

1319
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me what happened?

1320
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 4: Who was she to you?

1321
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1322
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: She was a ting See this is my point.

1323
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: That's just what I want to ask you.

1324
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: I know, I need to get.

1325
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 6: Consolutely a great friend. That we crossed the line. It

1326
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 6: wasn't I wasn't super emotionally involved.

1327
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: You intended for friendship and then it just got friend Okay.

1328
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 7: So I already knew it wasn't somebody that was super special.

1329
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 7: Whatever she starts throwing, he just.

1330
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: Said that it was his besting.

1331
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 7: She starts throwing me a certain vibe. So I hit him,

1332
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 7: and I'm like, yo, what's over you? And so and

1333
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 7: so he's like, not nothing. I'm like you sure, He's like,

1334
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 7: not nothing. Why I'm like, because she's throwing it at

1335
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 7: me and I'm just wondering before I even think of

1336
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 7: going down that road.

1337
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 5: He's like, no, it's cool. She's not gonna do it anyways.

1338
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh not, I.

1339
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: Hope you don't do that. Is that what you said?

1340
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: Now I know where the name division came on.

1341
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 7: Now we're gonna have the real division.

1342
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: Division just happened. Okay, so she is the line anytime

1343
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: says I.

1344
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 7: Don't recall, I don't cause he said you said she's

1345
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 7: not gonna do it.

1346
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: No, I think I think no, for you know what,

1347
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: we have to talk.

1348
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: Because the reason why, the reason why I was, I remember,

1349
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 6: and the reason why I stopped. We all remember why

1350
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 6: you stopped where I stopped. I only mind you that

1351
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 6: is someone that this happened. This is like ten no,

1352
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 6: no one halftime, So like I didn't, I didn't.

1353
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: Really what was the half?

1354
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: Was the half?

1355
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 6: Like I just I think I understand, matter of fact,

1356
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 6: halfway barely barely.

1357
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: I can't even say one time, like literally both times.

1358
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 6: I stopped okay, didn't even finish Okay, okay, why.

1359
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: Cut I just I do want to end the rest

1360
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 4: of the story though.

1361
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, to continue. He literally says to me.

1362
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: You did.

1363
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 4: Let's agree to disagree and move on with the story.

1364
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 7: He's like, she's not gonna do it anyway, she's just

1365
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: playing around. I'm like, oh, cool, but I think she is.

1366
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1367
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: I just said that.

1368
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: Eighty five don't have lion eyes like I gotta.

1369
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I said maybe.

1370
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 6: I said, like, she's she stays like that, she stays flirting,

1371
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 6: and I was like, I don't.

1372
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: I said, she's not gonna do it.

1373
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 6: I think I was probably like playing it off, like

1374
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 6: mind you, I wasn't messing around with it for months.

1375
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 4: Which and we all know the girls that have just

1376
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 4: flirt said will flirt. It does exist. And I was

1377
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: like trying to give him some bail for a little bit.

1378
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 5: I was like, nah, she's she's thrown in a different way.

1379
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: And she sent me some news.

1380
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 7: No in my head, yeah, in my head, I'm like

1381
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 7: I can tell this is more than her just playing around.

1382
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 5: So I said to him, you sure, He's like whatever,

1383
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 5: Literally he's.

1384
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: Adding sauce right now. It wasn't you sure? Are you sure?

1385
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: My nigga? Are you sure?

1386
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 5: Said you sure you're good with this? What if I

1387
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 5: do what I'm going.

1388
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: To do if I rearranged you?

1389
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: You said, if I do, it's a completion.

1390
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: You asked Roy finish all you you didn't.

1391
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 6: All you asked me was if I'm still talking to her,

1392
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 6: you might have mentioned that she was being whatever?

1393
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: And I said, I might have mentioned he was. I

1394
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: didn't know you were going to do that. You did?

1395
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 5: Why am I asking?

1396
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: Anyway?

1397
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: It does matter?

1398
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: Moving forward, it's moving forward.

1399
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 5: It happens.

1400
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 7: And then later on he's like, oh, whatever happened with that?

1401
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, I did that. He's like, what you

1402
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 7: didn't tell me? You didn't tell about you?

1403
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 2: Tell me what I understand?

1404
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: What I understand?

1405
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: Why he feels like you you you you could have

1406
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: or you should have told him because it's like we

1407
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: spoke about.

1408
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: It, so you should at least tell him like when

1409
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: it went through.

1410
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what. But eighty five say, you just told

1411
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: me you didn't care.

1412
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, not that I don't think it was care, but

1413
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you didn't even tell me, like

1414
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: you didn't even like yo, like yo, you're not like

1415
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we linked up.

1416
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 6: Why are you making me it's so far after like

1417
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 6: the girl came back tried to spend the block on me.

1418
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: After she was with eighty five. Oh see, that's why

1419
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: you gotta tell him.

1420
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: So that's what I didn't know that she swung the

1421
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 5: block on him.

1422
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: No, but that's that's why you gotta tell him.

1423
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 5: Me telling him was me asking him.

1424
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 7: I wasn't asking him that I was gonna do it, Okay,

1425
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 7: I said me asking you.

1426
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 6: Hen I'm saying, like me asking what was up?

1427
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Is me basically telling you going to do this?

1428
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 4: Did write same girl?

1429
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: If you had told me, I.

1430
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: Think eighty five wrote the same girl?

1431
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 7: If you had told me there was an issue, I

1432
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 7: would have left it alone like it was.

1433
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: There would have been.

1434
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 7: It would have been if he came up to me

1435
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 7: and it was like, Yo, how do you feel about

1436
01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 7: so and so whatever?

1437
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, not schools whatever. In my head, I'd be like, yeah,

1438
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 5: he did it.

1439
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh, so you would assume that he already that type.

1440
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 3: I'm not that way that I would.

1441
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: I tell you, I'll be like, I want to see

1442
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 4: how foul this got. At any point during your interactions

1443
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 4: with the young lady before after was Daniel's name ever

1444
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: brought up no.

1445
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 5: With that lady. Yes, nout that did.

1446
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: She at any point be like, hey, just can you

1447
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: just not tell Daniel about this?

1448
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 5: No, okay, I.

1449
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: Didn't ask that question.

1450
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: That was good because because we don't want no division

1451
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: between the.

1452
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like because then it gets fat.

1453
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 5: I feel like it would have got weird, like it

1454
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: definitely would have been.

1455
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 6: Absolutely was it was it multiple times.

1456
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 5: It was a couple of times.

1457
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: Look at Danny Dan like, I got a new record

1458
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: about to write.

1459
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 5: But here's the weird part. Me and the girl were

1460
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 5: really cool too. She actually ended up geeting me a

1461
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 5: job a friend before mine. Maybe I don't know the

1462
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 5: plot thickens.

1463
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Yeah, I know what you mean.

1464
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 5: So it wasn't like it wasn't a big deal.

1465
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't anything that I can you. I didn't care.

1466
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 5: So I needed to do photography downtown. On my way back,

1467
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 5: I would just slide through.

1468
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm get it gets yeah, yeah, long day holding a camera.

1469
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 4: We'll ask because, uh, because we're gossiping like men in

1470
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 4: the rap world, I see all these rappers fuck the

1471
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 4: same girls. Not to say y'all know, but you guys

1472
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 4: hang out with R and B singers. Is that the

1473
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 4: same way in the army world? Because I judge these rappers. Yeah,

1474
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 4: it's the only judgment I think I have my life. Yeah,

1475
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 4: why are y'all all fucking the same?

1476
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 7: Girl?

1477
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 6: Only that we're doing that with the R and B guys,

1478
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 6: girls and the rappers girls.

1479
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: I was great to say.

1480
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: I think women now are just you know, the ones

1481
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: that the star chasers.

1482
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 5: I don't think they have anybody that's been with an

1483
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 5: ARMB guy.

1484
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: You don't know what single girls with you?

1485
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 4: Guys are eskimo brothers. What are you talking about? We

1486
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 4: just we just talked about. No, you do, No one

1487
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 4: he's in your group.

1488
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: I mean like other R and B guys.

1489
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I know him like you mean girls

1490
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: that you're talking to, Yeah, with an arm.

1491
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 7: Like they were with so and so. Yeah, I've never talked.

1492
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 7: I don't not that I know of. I'm not saying

1493
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 7: it hasn't happened. You seem to know who's who.

1494
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: See Toronto is known for me is one of my

1495
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: cities where it's known for the women, just beautiful women

1496
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: in Toronto. As an R and B group, producer, singer,

1497
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: songwriter in your city, the success of the group. How

1498
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: has it changed with the women that you used to

1499
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: see around the city that were like the hot girls,

1500
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: like damn, she's she's beautiful, Like where is it at now?

1501
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: These girls like friends? Now you have better relationships. You

1502
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: hang out more with the girls that the hot girls

1503
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: in Toronto. Yeah, like the pretty girls in Toronto. So

1504
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: what you ask the question? I'm just saying, like, since

1505
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: the success of Divisions, are they Toronto cooler? You're like,

1506
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: but the ones that you know, like back in like

1507
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: five years ago, ten years ago, there wasn't a conversations.

1508
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah no, he said in the song I was lit

1509
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: when you met me.

1510
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I'm not okay, no me, I'm gonna say

1511
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 6: it like that. But in my life in history, and

1512
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 6: I think anyways, in my life in history, usually the

1513
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 6: girl that I actually wanted was the girl that I got. Okay,

1514
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 6: there are other all R and B, there are other women. No,

1515
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 6: I'm being honest. I'm just being honest. But obviously there's

1516
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 6: plenty of beautiful women to say that I don't know

1517
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 6: or do you have anything to do with? But do

1518
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 6: they all of a sudden now become like, oh we

1519
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 6: want to hang around now?

1520
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: You know what?

1521
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: I guess.

1522
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 6: I guess that's hard to tell because I think before

1523
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 6: there was nothing really to hang around, you know what

1524
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 6: I mean, Like the city's changed in general. So now

1525
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 6: people know, like those are Divisions guys, that's the Division

1526
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 6: crew whatever. So it's kind of like they kind of

1527
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 6: know now, whereas before, if you're talking about five six

1528
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 6: years ago in Toronto, that wasn't even a thing.

1529
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: There wasn't any of that. There was the Toronto Raptors

1530
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: and that's.

1531
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: It, you know, true, there was Ovo and XO. Drake's

1532
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 5: been out here.

1533
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 6: I'm saying besides that, besides Ovo, it's been like they

1534
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 6: monopolized kind of right. So I think now people there's

1535
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 6: a lot more things going on. People know, oh, those

1536
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 6: are tories guys, those are SO and So's people.

1537
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: That's parties people, that's oh they hang.

1538
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 6: With the weekend XO guys, and you know, all those

1539
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 6: things are happening. So I think that that's created it

1540
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 6: now being a way more like oh, the girl that's

1541
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 6: at the Exos things are now wanting to come over

1542
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 6: to Divisions Health Party.

1543
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: You think we're getting that kind of vibe.

1544
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 6: We're getting that kind of vibe a little bit more

1545
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 6: but to be honest, I think the women in the city,

1546
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 6: we're having a different experience than a lot of other

1547
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 6: cities because what it is is like you guys feel

1548
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 6: like and I feel like I feel I've even heard

1549
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 6: you guys say this, like you know, Toronto was discovered

1550
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 6: with Drake.

1551
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 4: No I think Drake. I mean people think Drake ruined

1552
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: Toronto because there was a gem. It was a fucking

1553
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: gem and everyone knows about it.

1554
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: So now that everybody knows, the women have changed. Yeah,

1555
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: they have access now they realize, oh yeah.

1556
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 5: They know that.

1557
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 4: As someone that loved Toronto pre Drake, I felt like, fuck, man,

1558
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 4: why'd you have to tell everyone about the greatest city

1559
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 4: in the world.

1560
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: So it's it's different. They know now and that's I mean.

1561
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 6: If you go back to our September fifth album, that's

1562
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 6: actually what we're writing the song Angela about the song

1563
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 6: on there called Angela.

1564
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 4: Is that her name? The girl between the two of you?

1565
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: No, that's actually the city of Toronto, gotcha.

1566
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 4: That was a metaphor for.

1567
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 6: The girl, the girl that was a pretty girl in

1568
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 6: class that no one ever recognized.

1569
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: That's what I feel like Toronto has been. Okay, I

1570
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: feel like the women feel like that where now but

1571
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: now that they recognize their whole vibe is different.

1572
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, to be honest with you, like they moved completely

1573
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 6: different than they did five years ago. They're now completely

1574
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 6: aware like I can get flown out by whoever at

1575
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 6: any getting time.

1576
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 1: So how many how much of an influence does Drake

1577
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: have in the creative process for Division as far as

1578
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: like if you record a project and you feel like

1579
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: your project is done, and is he somebody that you

1580
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: want to hear the project and get his feedback from.

1581
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 2: We always would want him to hear it.

1582
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 6: I think that we were pretty internal with our process,

1583
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 6: like most of the part. The only person we've ever

1584
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 6: let into this process like in any kind of real way,

1585
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 6: to be honest, it is Jermaine. This been on this album.

1586
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 6: Usually we go in the studio, it's just me and him.

1587
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 6: We do what we feel, you.

1588
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: Know, we let we pass it around whoever. Okay cool.

1589
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: You know forties got it so and so it's got

1590
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: it okay cool.

1591
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 6: But we're already like we're all right, Which is the

1592
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 6: beauty I think of Division is like we're pretty self contained.

1593
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 6: You know, I have the hit making platinum super producer

1594
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 6: and you know, I'm out here trying to be the

1595
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 6: king R and B right, So I don't really we

1596
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 6: don't really need much else now. People have brought things

1597
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 6: to the table that I'm super thankful for, Like Jermaine

1598
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 6: has brought things to the table that I'm super super

1599
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,520
Speaker 6: thankful for. A lot of other people that we've collaborated

1600
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 6: with bring things to the table that we're super thankful for.

1601
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 6: But I think that our formula and our process we've

1602
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 6: always kept internal. It's not just whether it's Drake or

1603
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 6: forty or anybody. It's like literally anybody, like the grieving,

1604
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 6: the girls around us, the friends, the family. No one

1605
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: hears our stuff. We kind of just lock in, do

1606
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 6: it and put it out and then we'll see what happens.

1607
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: Is that kind of how the label runs with OVO.

1608
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: I think it was about different relationships.

1609
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 5: It's all different, you know, like.

1610
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 4: Because it's been a very interesting label to watch from

1611
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: the outside looking at just as a consumer. Again, I

1612
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 4: don't really know too much, but you know, I loved

1613
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 4: Majid when they came out. Obviously we love party, we.

1614
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: See I love that.

1615
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 4: Like it's just been it's been weird ups and downs.

1616
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 4: I feel like with the artists that have been signed

1617
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 4: to OVO and as far as the involvement Ovio has had,

1618
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 4: and I don't want to say care, because I'm sure

1619
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 4: they care, but it has felt more so a stepping

1620
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: stone for an artist just to get to another place

1621
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 4: rather than to build the label that is Ovio.

1622
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 7: I think the thing that the outside outside world can't

1623
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 7: see is it's a very freedom and creative based label.

1624
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 7: So it's always been about, like, you have the freedom

1625
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 7: to do what you want to do creatively, make those decisions.

1626
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 5: If you want us to weigh in, we'll weigh in.

1627
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 5: If you don't, we won't.

1628
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 7: Like our first album was completely done before we even

1629
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 7: signed to Ovio forties, all right, cool, we want to

1630
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,480
Speaker 7: mix it and put it out. That was the conversation.

1631
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 7: So there's never really been that type of influence on

1632
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 7: our albums. But for instance, I was just at Roy

1633
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 7: Woods listening party on the weekend. I spoke to him

1634
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 7: and he's like, yo, me and me and Drake been

1635
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 7: going back and forth on this album so much. I

1636
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 7: really love like his direction he's given me.

1637
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 4: On this And what's funny outside looking in people would

1638
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 4: think Drake forgot about Roy Woods yeah, I'm saying consumer last.

1639
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,440
Speaker 4: I'm not people's sensitive.

1640
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 5: But.

1641
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 7: I think each artist has their own relationships with different

1642
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 7: people within the label.

1643
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1644
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 7: Magic Jordan's really close with Forty, so Forty is always

1645
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 7: super involved with their stuff. Parties super tight with Drake

1646
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 7: when it comes to his albums and how they share

1647
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 7: music and how they go back and forth with us.

1648
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 7: We're cool with everybody, but we sort of just did

1649
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 7: our own thing and then afterwards, oh, yoh, the album's done.

1650
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 5: Do you hear yet?

1651
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: Okay?

1652
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 5: You know, like that's yeah, because we're just in our

1653
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 5: own bubble.

1654
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: What process do y'all enjoy more with JD being more

1655
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: hands on, more involved or Drake being more laid back.

1656
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: If y'all want me to give my opinion or y'all

1657
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: want me to hear it and give you some, you know, guidance, whatever,

1658
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm here for it.

1659
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: If not, I totally trust y'all do what y'all are doing.

1660
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 7: I'm down for both, you know, because I do see

1661
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 7: the benefits of both. Like I see how there's certain

1662
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 7: things that just the two of us have to just

1663
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 7: be the two of us to get to. But there's

1664
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 7: certain things that as just the two of us. We're

1665
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 7: not going to get there, Okay, got you.

1666
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 6: One thing about this album is again which I guess

1667
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 6: plays into if I get caught, is the album isn't

1668
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 6: story for him, right, And so a big part of

1669
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 6: that is the idea of being able to take people

1670
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 6: on an actual like point A to point Z or

1671
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 6: at least point A to point F if that's what

1672
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 6: it's going to be journey, which Jermaine really helped understand

1673
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 6: and cultivate that, which is why why we started off

1674
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 6: with that record. Because that it's like people like, oh,

1675
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 6: division they give us the crying in the rain R

1676
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 6: and B, or they do it you know, where's the begging?

1677
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: And we wanted this or used to this, whatever it

1678
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: might be.

1679
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 6: It's like, how do you want me to get to

1680
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 6: the crying and the rain part of the story without

1681
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 6: showing you?

1682
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: Why cry till I cheat until I get it, until

1683
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 2: you see some bullshit?

1684
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 5: Right?

1685
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 6: And so the chapter one is that, which is if

1686
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 6: I had caught like that whole that the reason we

1687
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 6: started with that is because that is that is the

1688
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 6: hyph climatic moment of the ego. Yeah you know this

1689
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 6: is how it feels. Mind you I'm not saying I'm cheating.

1690
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 6: I cheat on you deal with that. That's not which

1691
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 6: is how I think people sometimes hear it because they're

1692
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 6: hearing the chanting and it's but what it is is

1693
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:08,480
Speaker 6: because it's people. It's people's triggers to certain words, inability

1694
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 6: to actually go through conversation. That just makes you lash

1695
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 6: out against it. But after it starts to really catch

1696
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 6: you and you're like, I kind of like the song, though,

1697
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 6: let me see what he's saying, that's when the song

1698
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 6: actually really gets to hit. And I think it's hitting

1699
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 6: with the quote unquote city boys and the you know

1700
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 6: that that demographic of people and even the city girls,

1701
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 6: because as a record that is mainly about the ego.

1702
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 6: When you're in your ego, the most chances are is

1703
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 6: when you know you're with the squad, you're dressed up,

1704
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 6: you got the bottle, that's what you see singing in

1705
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 6: the clubs or doing whatever, because that's when you feel

1706
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 6: the most. That's when you feel that way, you're feeling

1707
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 6: yourself the most. And I think that cheating is more

1708
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 6: of an act of.

1709
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: Trying to prove that.

1710
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 6: It proves almost to yourself how much you're feeling yourself

1711
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 6: or give yourself a reason to feel yourself, to feel

1712
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 6: coveted it, to feel desired, feel whatever. One and she

1713
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 6: because I, you know, he made me feel wanted. After

1714
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 6: we dropped the record, a girl DM, I love this

1715
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 6: relationship with my fans, everybody out there, division fans. If

1716
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 6: you guys, when you guys messages, understand like, we love

1717
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 6: that we have this connection, so keep it up. But no,

1718
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 6: I rather tell I like to no real, real real,

1719
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 6: because they say some stuff that's super vulnerable.

1720
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: They they feel that they can just talk to us

1721
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: like that. Right, So that's what the space thing was.

1722
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 6: Was was great right because it was because it was

1723
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 6: ready to get really crazy. But after we dropped the record,

1724
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 6: I had a girl DM me and say, hey, look

1725
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 6: I love this song super Banger sounds like a hit,

1726
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 6: but I can't play it in the house.

1727
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: I cheated on my husband.

1728
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 4: Wow, look how insensitive women.

1729
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's faithful.

1730
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 4: By the way, baby, I was gonna ask if it

1731
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: was her that d M you.

1732
01:16:58,640 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 5: That's you?

1733
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 6: So yeah, she said I cheated on my husband and

1734
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 6: he took me back and just out of curiosity said, yo,

1735
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 6: could you mind if I ask, like, you know why

1736
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 6: why did you cheat?

1737
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: And she was like, you know, I.

1738
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 6: I had I just finished having kids, and you know,

1739
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 6: I wanted to feel sexy and I wanted to feel desired.

1740
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 6: And one of my old flings he started, you know,

1741
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 6: messaging me and asking for selfies and things that made

1742
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 6: me feel attractive and sexy, and I, you know, I

1743
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 6: knew I was going back to my old town and

1744
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 6: I knew I was going to do it, and I did.

1745
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 6: And the moment I did it, I didn't feel no better.

1746
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 6: But I totally understand because I didn't stop loving my husband.

1747
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 2: I just need. I just did something to make me.

1748
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 4: Feel good in a moment impulse.

1749
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 6: And I was like, wow, like that that That's exactly

1750
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 6: what I'm talking.

1751
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: Can you direct those dms to me so I could

1752
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: like respond, Yeah, no problem, I got you.

1753
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 2: What is it? Mall at AOL or something like that.

1754
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 4: Hotmail dot com?

1755
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: Like you dirty scoundrels?

1756
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 4: On the JD question of both of you, with adding

1757
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 4: JD and Brian Michael Cox to this entire mix, what

1758
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 4: has that balance been like as far as dealing with

1759
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 4: two legends but also knowing your music and.

1760
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: Two very humble legends too, for sure, And I love

1761
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: the fact that JD still actually goes to the club

1762
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: and goes into DJ Booth with the record, like with

1763
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: all that he's accomplished.

1764
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 4: It and not living in yesteryear, like yeah, I did Confessions,

1765
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to fuck with the young ship right

1766
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: now and keeping pushing in the studio. Has that been

1767
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 4: a weird balance going like, all right, these are two

1768
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 4: legends that I should take advice, but sometimes I know

1769
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 4: I'm right. How has that been as far as working

1770
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 4: with the two of them?

1771
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 5: I should take advice? But sometimes I.

1772
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: Know know that that that balance that you know, you

1773
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 4: guys are division. We've been by ourselves, and at this

1774
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 4: point you're dealing with two legends that I know both

1775
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 4: of you looked up till we all have, and I'm

1776
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: sure there's been cases where you felt both of you

1777
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 4: guys were right and they were like, nah, do it

1778
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: this way, and you're like, all right, that's a legend,

1779
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 4: but I know this, this is my group that y'all.

1780
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: Know pretty good with that.

1781
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, we got to a place where there's a mutual like.

1782
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you could do it like that. Okay, I kind

1783
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: of see what you're saying. He's good with that.

1784
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 6: That's what I think makes it so that way he

1785
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 6: fits into what we're doing on this album so right,

1786
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 6: because besides the fact, besides the actual music part, there's

1787
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 6: like a there's a legitimate brotherhood now, like this is

1788
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 6: literally like my big bro now, you know, we feel

1789
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 6: a different level of connection and and a level of trust.

1790
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 6: There's times where he's in there writing a record for

1791
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 6: somebody else and he'll be like, hey, don't come here,

1792
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 6: like I don't fix this part, you know, and it's

1793
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 6: like he trusts me with that.

1794
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: Jamine has never sat down and just penned the record

1795
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: for me and handed to me.

1796
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: Okay.

1797
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 6: You know he's never done that because he's like, no,

1798
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 6: you got it. I know what you o.

1799
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: That line right there is that the hook it ain't

1800
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: hockey enough. Yeah, he might do that.

1801
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 6: What if it's like this, you know that kind of

1802
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 6: stuff which eighty five has always done with me. You know,

1803
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 6: he'll be like, oh, I don't know, the hook feels

1804
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 6: like it needs something bigger.

1805
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: You know. He's a great.

1806
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 6: Assistance in the writing game because of his perspective as

1807
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 6: as a producer as a song creator. So I think

1808
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 6: JD kind of takes that same approach to why he

1809
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 6: probably has as many hits as he does is because

1810
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 6: he probably fits into so many different whatever the situation is,

1811
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 6: and is able to like adjust to what's going on,

1812
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 6: adjust the maneuver. We've never kind of butt heads were

1813
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 6: working like no, I gotta say, ooh baby, you drive

1814
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 6: me crazy.

1815
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 5: Think we've had.

1816
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 7: I think we've also had the comfort in the studio

1817
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 7: where we all have been wrong and can come back

1818
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 7: and be like, yeah, and remember that thing I told

1819
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 7: you to switch?

1820
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 5: I listened to it again.

1821
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and we've all done that.

1822
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 3: A creative though, yeah, for sure, because you.

1823
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 7: Have to each Even in his position where you know,

1824
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 7: he's been the hit maker for thirty plus years, there's

1825
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 7: times he'll come back and be like, nah, I remember

1826
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 7: that thing I said to do.

1827
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: With the drums so stupid?

1828
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 5: That shit sucks. Yeah, you know that.

1829
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 7: Takes a lot to creative to like get a whole

1830
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 7: different level of understanding yourself in like that studio space.

1831
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 4: That's why outside the studio is so important with like

1832
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 4: leaving with bounces, because it's something about the studio that

1833
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 4: creates an environment where you feel like you's playing music

1834
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 4: so loud.

1835
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just everything sounds good, and everything sounds go home.

1836
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 5: You played in your car and your phone the stupidest idea.

1837
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: I haven't had straight track exactly. I heard Eminem still

1838
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: walks around like after he records. He walks around with

1839
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: like a walkman and like those type not no special

1840
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: like the regular bullshit cushion to see if it had

1841
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: phones and listen to it.

1842
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 7: Because our biggest thing has always been the phone test. Yeah,

1843
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 7: we'll always be able to pass the phone test.

1844
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:52,759
Speaker 5: It does, then.

1845
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 4: I'll do that macbooking phone.

1846
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 7: The average person is listening on the phone, right, So

1847
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter how big the studio is. Right, you

1848
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 7: in there sounds amazing. They play on their phone. It

1849
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 7: sounds like ass and doesn't really matter what you did

1850
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 7: in the studio.

1851
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 5: Oh.

1852
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 4: I only got to think with cars because so many

1853
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 4: people that make some of the bigger records have cars

1854
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 4: that have great sound systems that it's almost like the

1855
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 4: studio to some degree. I take my mother's twenty fourteen

1856
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 4: Mazda drive around the block. Is can this work in

1857
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 4: an average car? Because it doesn't sound the same.

1858
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 5: What's the.

1859
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: Out of all the projects that y'all have done and

1860
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: put out, what is the one that y'all didn't y'all

1861
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: thought it would be received differently than it was.

1862
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 6: I mean, it was in their feelings. The last one,

1863
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 6: which is actually the one I called them in on

1864
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 6: the pod about, Yeah, because of the pandemic, it kind

1865
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 6: of just changed everything. We made a whole bunch of

1866
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 6: music that we felt like, Okay, this is perfect. We've toured,

1867
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 6: we know what people want, We're going to be outside.

1868
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 6: It's summertime and the world was locked up in the house.

1869
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 4: Definitely got out of your or comfort zone, yeah, and

1870
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 4: started doing different things at showing you the different spots

1871
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 4: and different rooms that we had things that we could do.

1872
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 6: But I think it was a bad time for that.

1873
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 6: Even though people still love the album, I.

1874
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 4: Was going to say, I think that album is pretty

1875
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 4: revered even with the pandemic, especially as it's it's aged

1876
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 4: really well.

1877
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 6: I guess I just feel like without the Pandemicneundexposed.

1878
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 7: Definitely could have reached way more places. But I'll say

1879
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 7: the same thing about the Tie album. I think that

1880
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 7: album was also received extremely well, but the.

1881
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 4: Mix, well, I think you got I think it was

1882
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 4: just a weird place too, coming out of the pandemic.

1883
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 4: Just having to get music out, and I understood it.

1884
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: It was it's all timing with that.

1885
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 6: What I love about what we're doing right now is

1886
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 6: because the first song has caused this much of a conversation.

1887
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 6: It's like, and we know everything else that we have

1888
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 6: is like exactly everything you guys have been like dying

1889
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 6: for from R and B.

1890
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 4: It's like, that's why I was laughing at all the

1891
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 4: reactions to this, like this fucking toxic.

1892
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: R and B. The disition did it.

1893
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've heard the album what.

1894
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 3: You guys want?

1895
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: I like, I liked the video that you posted the

1896
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: other day at the studio in the in the gym

1897
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: and you were singing the lyrics if I Get Caught,

1898
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: and one girl commented it said, Okay, now this is

1899
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: the type of R and B. I'm talking about the

1900
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: first joint you just y'all just put out. Me and

1901
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: my husband was kind of like and everybody was like.

1902
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 3: It's include you, like, it's the same record.

1903
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 6: It's just I just sang a cockapella, like now you

1904
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 6: can hear what the lyrics I went to.

1905
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 4: What's so funny? You mentioned that it's a really weird

1906
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 4: tangent like five or six years ago. I went to

1907
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 4: a Fornick Shane show the same weekend as Summer Jam,

1908
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,879
Speaker 4: and they're like a neo soul band and they attract

1909
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 4: that type of crowd, and they did the same experiment.

1910
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 4: In the middle of their set. They did every single

1911
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 4: that would have been popping at Summer Jam in a

1912
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 4: neo soul singing way, like ignorant f Soldier Boy type records,

1913
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 4: and everyone was like, this is amazing. It was like,

1914
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 4: you realize I just did the top ten billboard. So

1915
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 4: people just want to hear ship the way they want

1916
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 4: to hear. It's not really the com It.

1917
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: Was like you said, people were caught up in the sample.

1918
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Then when they heard the beat, you know, it was

1919
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: that and it kind of just turned into something else.

1920
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: But then when they hear the lyrics, it's like, Okay,

1921
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: then now I see uh. Some some artists have put

1922
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: out some responses, some responses.

1923
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 4: Every day every day.

1924
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 6: Every day, every day, we see people literally online just

1925
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 6: pulling back their comments now. And that's why I'm like,

1926
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 6: I'm extra sure that like Twitter is not in real space,

1927
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 6: in real place, because like everybody, people, so many people

1928
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 6: are like I tried to fight.

1929
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: It as long as I could. Guys, I love this song.

1930
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 2: I don't tell you.

1931
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Guys, super it's a good record. So when is the

1932
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: When is the album coming? Are we going with another

1933
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: single before the album?

1934
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 2: We're definitely going another single.

1935
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 6: We're rolling out the story and people just you know,

1936
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 6: gotta gotta have fun with this one while we're while

1937
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 6: it's you know, it's hot and it's it's moving the

1938
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 6: topic of the conversation. But chapter two is definitely.

1939
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Already.

1940
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: They're ready to go.

1941
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 6: We're about to shoot the video and it's it picks up.

1942
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 6: We know where where sometimes your ego leaves you.

1943
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 4: I think because Daniel Maul were dirt bags in the

1944
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 4: first video, I think eighty five and nine for the

1945
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 4: second one should show like married, raising our children. You know,

1946
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:46,879
Speaker 4: going into church means baisly relaxed.

1947
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 2: Is that the idea? That's the treatment?

1948
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to church with our wives and kids.

1949
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 6: That ain't going that ain't still something else?

1950
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 3: But behind that treatment? Who are some of the features

1951
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: on the album?

1952
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, that's the last that's one

1953
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 6: of the last pieces before we actually tie this whole album.

1954
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 6: We're going to see what features we can get on

1955
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 6: a couple of records that we have the only one

1956
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 6: I can give you, guys what.

1957
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: You told you guys before we told you last time.

1958
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 6: I think at the the h.

1959
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 2: The BT radio room, we got we got.

1960
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 6: We do have Jagged Edge already on one of the records,

1961
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 6: which is.

1962
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: One of my one of my favorites. And crazy enough,

1963
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: they're like pretty sure.

1964
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 6: Them and Usher are like the only two artists that

1965
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 6: I like ever sang like in a talent show, like

1966
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 6: their songs Jagged Edge and Usher are now like you know.

1967
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: And whatever just dope.

1968
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 6: But no, they the only other features are are to

1969
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 6: be determined. You know, we have who we want in mind,

1970
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 6: but hopefully they do it. But you know, we got

1971
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 6: seeing all the music businesses.

1972
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, I love the fact that

1973
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: we did this, but like I think we need to

1974
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: like have like an off mic.

1975
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: Talk around. Yeah, you gotta have an off mic talk

1976
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: about this project.

1977
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: But I am happy that you put out the record

1978
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: that you put out and everybody reacted to it, whether

1979
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: it was negative or positive.

1980
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: I just love the fact that they reacted.

1981
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: I love the division that y'all caused, uh for for

1982
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: the what seemed like a.

1983
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 3: Week, Right, that was all over twit everybody like.

1984
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 6: It's still going because what crazy thing too about it

1985
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 6: is we're seeing the hypocrisy and a lot of people too,

1986
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 6: We're going to see the double standards and men.

1987
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to see the hypocrisy because.

1988
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 6: Women are now like yeah, as soon as they hear

1989
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 6: the woman response, there's the women saying ten ten times

1990
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 6: more toxic things than I'm saying. Sure, and they're like

1991
01:28:55,000 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 6: yes and this right, oh wow, okay, Okay, I get

1992
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 6: I get what's going on, which is great because I

1993
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 6: think that all of this is bringing parts of ourselves

1994
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 6: to the table that we need to actually have some

1995
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 6: real conversations about if we're ever going to progress.

1996
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: So it's forced the culture to have a conversation. It's

1997
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: ringing out in.

1998
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 6: These these clubs and these parties, and you know, radios

1999
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 6: already picked it up.

2000
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: So it's great that it's it started.

2001
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 6: Off the way that it did, and you know it

2002
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 6: it sets the tone for a good story for sure.

2003
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 4: All right, well, there's any other ship y'all want to

2004
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 4: get off before we do part two and the album

2005
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 4: comes out?

2006
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2007
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 3: Ah you R and b Nick just somebody.

2008
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: In m y'all was at the verses? I saw we

2009
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: were all in la. We weren't there, but you did

2010
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: you go to the versess? Well, like, honestly, how did

2011
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: y'all feel hearing some of them dudes live like that?

2012
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 1: We used to really think was like, Yo, this was

2013
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: the ship, this.

2014
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: Is my thing.

2015
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 6: In all of the verses, I feel like in all

2016
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 6: of the verses, I feel like we know who is

2017
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 6: who and what what we should prior to the verses.

2018
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 6: Some of the people that I see people killing for

2019
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 6: certain things, I'm like, did you really believe ever that

2020
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 6: this was something different prior to That's the brother confuses me.

2021
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 5: You make music, they don't.

2022
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, So for me, it wasn't. It's not shocked.

2023
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: It's not shocking because different even.

2024
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: I knew, like some people hit me. Was like, yo,

2025
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that so and so couldn't really sing.

2026
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know that so and so, And I'm like,

2027
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: how did you not know that? How did you not

2028
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 1: hear that?

2029
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm saying so and.

2030
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: So who Well, I won't say because I didn't. I'm

2031
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: not the one that said it.

2032
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 5: But what I.

2033
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 6: Will say is those four guys uh r v p

2034
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 6: R s V, p ray J, Sammy Pleasure by Valentino.

2035
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 6: Like those guys one all have records that we love

2036
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 6: for sure, and they all contributed to a great night

2037
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:50,440
Speaker 6: in the culture.

2038
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 3: Great night of entertainment, great great night.

2039
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 2: Salute to all of them.

2040
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 3: And they they need a reality show after.

2041
01:30:56,240 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: That, Well they have one. They definitely have one coming today.

2042
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 4: They need to whack one.

2043
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 3: That sounds great.

2044
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 9: It sounds at first, but then you did you she

2045
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 9: ray J's thing where he's trying to sell everything, Uh

2046
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 9: was an ice cream or a burger something something something

2047
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 9: fries something against that he did.

2048
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 6: A whole after Yeah, this is after the verses. So

2049
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 6: ray J, I already know what it is with him,

2050
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 6: Like he's he got to play marketing. G of course

2051
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 6: he's an entrepreneur and he knows that he has a

2052
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 6: personality and a vibe and you know, music.

2053
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Running through his bone. So he's just gonna make it,

2054
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: make it do what it does, make it work, you

2055
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

2056
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 6: I'm not expecting him to go up there and be

2057
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson every day.

2058
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 2: You know why we why why are we doing that?

2059
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 4: You know?

2060
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 6: Shout out Shout out to ray J, Shout out to

2061
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 6: Pleasure p Sammy, Bobby all the Water came to our

2062
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,879
Speaker 6: single release party other day in Atlanta.

2063
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 5: Looked.

2064
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 6: I looked across the the club and I saw a

2065
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 6: Pleasure Pee, Bobby Valentino and Ray J.

2066
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the versus is here?

2067
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 3: You should have said we're Sammy.

2068
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

2069
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 3: The versus is here.

2070
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 4: I don't know what hard to get the mic.

2071
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't know where Sammy was. Actually, Sammy, where are

2072
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: you at?

2073
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 3: All?

2074
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 6: Right?

2075
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Man?

2076
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Well, look we're gonna we're gonna definitely make sure we

2077
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: sit down and chop it up again once the album drops.

2078
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we come to Toronto. Maybe wherever we are

2079
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 3: at the time.

2080
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, wherever y'all might be, who knows. Miami having a

2081
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: very consistent week.

2082
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 3: I want to go.

2083
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: I want to go where ever eighty five is going,

2084
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: because I want to be pretty consistent, pretty consistent. All right, Chad,

2085
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: that was the vision. We'll check you out another time.

2086
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: This has been another episode of New Rory and Mall.

2087
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga.

2088
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 3: He's just ginger peace.

2089
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, this