WEBVTT - The Idiot Box

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<v Speaker 1>The Idiot Box. It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. One more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched so much television in my life. Lots and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of television. I don't watch any anymore. Almost none.

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<v Speaker 1>And haven't for quite a few years since I had kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'll come back to it someday

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<v Speaker 1>or not. There's more good TV now than there's ever been.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 3>The quality. You got everything archived. I mean, it's like music.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to listen to a great new band? Great.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to hear a Hendrix live track? You want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear Louis Armstrong? And so, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My youngest and I are going through Seinfeld season

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<v Speaker 1>by season. My oldest and I are going through The

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<v Speaker 1>Sopranos season by season. And there's just so much good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out there that I haven't gotten to yet. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I ever will. But the Emmys

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<v Speaker 1>were last night. They still do the Emmy Awards. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they on television?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they aired? They aired on NBC, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>could stream it live on Peacock. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we got a couple of the speeches. The big

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<v Speaker 1>winner was Widow's Bay, which I had never even heard

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<v Speaker 1>the name of. They call it a comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about a man who recently lost his wife, finding

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<v Speaker 3>his way back to joy and love through the affection

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<v Speaker 3>of his golden retriever and his new bakery.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a guy who lost his wife

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<v Speaker 1>who keeps his boat safe. and a little inlet protected

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<v Speaker 1>from the wind and waves. Widow's Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're thinking of something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. What is it about, Katie? Brief version? It won

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<v Speaker 1>the most Emmys any comedy's ever won.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a freaking comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what? On the actual cover image that

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<v Speaker 1>was released before the show came out, it says drama, horror,

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<v Speaker 1>and mystery across the bottom. Comedy is not even mentioned in.

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<v Speaker 1>So is there some politicking that happens where you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's more likely we win awards if we call this

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<v Speaker 1>a comedy and who's to tell us it's not? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what's going on there? If we compete in the

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<v Speaker 1>drama category, it'll be harder to win?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea. That's an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>Winning those awards is huge. Huge, huge, huge, huge, huge.

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<v Speaker 1>To the likelihood me or lots of like just random

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<v Speaker 1>regular people, you hear it won best this, I'll at

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<v Speaker 1>least give that a look.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually a Stephen King-esque story that does have elements

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<v Speaker 3>of quirkiness and humor to it where you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>well-meaning mayor who's trying to turn his crappy little island

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<v Speaker 3>into the next Martha's Vineyard, but there's an evil spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cursed.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's trying to convince people, hey, hey, it's not cursed.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like Emmy nominated or Emmy winner is such a draw.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really like tires because I'm that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>The comedy. Now that's a comedy. There's no doubt they're

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<v Speaker 1>going for laughs. But it says Emmy nominated. And I thought, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what they won for, because I think it's really,

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<v Speaker 1>really good. They got nominated for lighting in one episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's their Emmy nominated comedy. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>you should get to call yourself that for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched several episodes and I could certainly see the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>It was well lit.

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<v Speaker 3>It was daytime. It looked brighter than the nighttime scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't strike me as particularly well lit.

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<v Speaker 1>So first we're going to hear from, and the skipper too,

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Gilligan. he won his first writing Emmy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he brings, talks about that here. This has

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<v Speaker 1>got to be one of those, they feel bad that

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<v Speaker 1>he's never won one, they got to give him one, right?

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever his current show is. Because he is the

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<v Speaker 1>guy behind Breaking Bad, one of the most popular, critically

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<v Speaker 1>acclaimed shows ever made in the history of looking at

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<v Speaker 1>things on video, followed by Better Call Saul. He never

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<v Speaker 1>won a writing Emmy?

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that even possible? Anyway, here he is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 4>A world in which everybody gets along. It's so sci-fi.

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<v Speaker 4>But think about it. There's nothing weirder than our current reality.

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<v Speaker 4>These past 10 years, you can't write this stuff. I

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<v Speaker 4>submit to you that a real world in which people

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<v Speaker 4>get along is just as believable as what we've got now.

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<v Speaker 3>And achievable.

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<v Speaker 4>We will never agree on everything, but we can show

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<v Speaker 4>respect to one another, maybe even kindness. And we can

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<v Speaker 4>stop listening to a relative few who tell us that

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<v Speaker 4>that is for suckers and who get their power from

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<v Speaker 4>dividing us. My two cents. And I do want to

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<v Speaker 4>thank Apple TV, Sony Pictures Television, and the magnificent Ray Sehorne.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I love that. I love that. If in

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<v Speaker 1>his mind, he's not only picturing one side, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm taking them at face value. I hope so. Seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be calling out both sides. Now the people cheering

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<v Speaker 3>in the audience, they're thinking, yes, those evil conservatives need

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<v Speaker 3>to stop being so evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we could all come together.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. If you just would agree with everything we think,

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<v Speaker 3>we could get along.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the funniest people who's ever lived is comedian

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<v Speaker 1>John Mulaney, and he was the host of the Emmys.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have watched a little of if I had

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<v Speaker 1>known that, but here's some of him doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the creation of television, men have been historically unrepresented.

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<v Speaker 2>For the first three years TV existed, there were no

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<v Speaker 2>men on it. It was just beauty contests and children

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<v Speaker 2>talking to hand puppets until the early 60s, until a

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<v Speaker 2>man walked out and said, enough, my name is Fonzie

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<v Speaker 2>and the president's been shot. But let's talk about these

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<v Speaker 2>bros tonight, these sweat hogs. Some of the men in

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<v Speaker 2>this category do method acting, and some do regular, less

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<v Speaker 2>annoying acting. But no matter what, when these fellas hit

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<v Speaker 2>their mark, they know all their lines. Why? Because they

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<v Speaker 2>started looking at their sides earlier that morning. These men,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, these men give it all in every single take,

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<v Speaker 2>unless the coverage is on the other actor and then

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<v Speaker 2>they might bounce early, but that's okay. And they can

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<v Speaker 2>play anything, these nominees, not just doctors. They can play

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<v Speaker 2>a cop or an FBI agent or a secret agent,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that's it, no other examples. I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was DJ Khaled who said, real men don't go down

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<v Speaker 2>on their wives, but... But these nominees know that that

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<v Speaker 2>is BS. They know there's often less pressure on them

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<v Speaker 2>if they do that first.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. What the hell? Oh, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Took an unfortunate turn there.

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<v Speaker 1>He really is one of the funniest people ever. His

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<v Speaker 1>delivery on things.

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<v Speaker 3>No other examples. Exactly. there's a horse in the hospital. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>He, when he talks about television and movie shows a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really liked the, like I'll give an example.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked the sound of music because I was

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<v Speaker 1>not good at sports. Reminds me of one other thing

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<v Speaker 1>as maybe going to bring to the air. I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I have a mental blank on this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>He was can in the Barbie movie. That's Ryan Gosling?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that his name?

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<v Speaker 1>I get him mixed up with another.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds right-ish. I don't know actors.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, there's nobody on this show that knows off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of their head who Ken was in the Ken

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<v Speaker 1>and Barbie movie. That's interesting. We'll go with that. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not a pop culture show. Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's really good, and he is hilarious, and

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<v Speaker 1>every time he hosts Saturday Night Live, it's a must-see.

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<v Speaker 1>But I saw an interview with him the other day

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<v Speaker 1>about becoming a movie star, TV star, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about when you're up and coming. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really interesting about Because he, like most people, went

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<v Speaker 1>there and took a long, long, long time to catch on.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, you drive clear across town for an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half in traffic, park a half a

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<v Speaker 1>mile away, go in and see a giant room full

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<v Speaker 1>of people who look exactly like you. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and

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<v Speaker 1>wait and know that they've already picked the person because

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<v Speaker 1>you saw one famous person that's going to get the part.

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<v Speaker 1>but you think I better go in there and do

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. And you go in and in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of your crying scene, the person that's watching you making

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions gets a phone call. So you have to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they take their phone call and then they

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<v Speaker 1>come back and say, pick up where you left off.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you try to get back into it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you didn't get the park and you

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<v Speaker 1>go back out to your car and you got a

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<v Speaker 1>ticket because it's LA and you got your parking ticket

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<v Speaker 1>and you drive two and a half hours to another

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<v Speaker 1>place to do it again. That's what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>try to make it in Hollywood. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was so good. Ah, Especially that you go, because he

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<v Speaker 1>is breathtakingly, you know, perfectly attractive. He's like an AI

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<v Speaker 1>creation of good looking. You walk into a room full

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<v Speaker 1>of people that look exactly like you do. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>shocking the first time it happens to you when you're

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<v Speaker 1>a man or a woman. Your whole life, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>the best looking person in every room you've ever been in.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden, wait a second, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people here that look exactly like me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. Just listening to that, I feel... A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of us have had experiences like that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah. Yeah, just hearing it, never mind living it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how many people would give up after doing that, like, twice?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a good little, you know, bitty through,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you walk all the way out to your car,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got a parking ticket under the windshield, whatever. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>after the humiliating experience of nobody giving a crap.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a lottery ticket, but to get in the lottery...

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<v Speaker 3>You have to, you know, try to outshine them. If

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<v Speaker 3>you can't outshine them, outwork them. If you can't outwork them,

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<v Speaker 3>outlast them, and then get crazy lucky. That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the reasons I gave up on the music business,

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<v Speaker 3>that lack of talent. I saw a couple of bands

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<v Speaker 3>get major label deals, then get dropped for the most

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<v Speaker 3>idiotic of reasons. And it just went ker-bluey. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>standing there looking around like, what the hell just happened?

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, no freaking way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was friends with the guys that got— That

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<v Speaker 1>and the lack of talent, yes. I was friends with

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that got booked by a major label, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the music changed. They got booked while music was

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<v Speaker 1>a certain thing. Like the next Nirvana Pearl Jam that

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<v Speaker 1>hit in, I don't know, 94, 95. They're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're done with that. We're moving on to something else.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, we want kind of a Weezer sign. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, you're done. Back when we decided that we were

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<v Speaker 3>going to do what we wanted to do no matter

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<v Speaker 3>what any executive or consultant told us to do, which

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<v Speaker 3>made us so many friends. I remember we talked about music.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what band it was. It might have

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<v Speaker 3>been some of the guys in REM or something. We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about how if you try to figure out what's

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<v Speaker 3>popular and become that band, 19 times out of 20,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be too late. And just as you're getting known

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<v Speaker 3>as a hair metal band, hair metal's out. And you've

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<v Speaker 3>wasted all that time. So you might as well just

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<v Speaker 3>do what you want to do and hope the world

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<v Speaker 3>comes around to you or people decide they like you

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. The chasing what's hot thing, it just does

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<v Speaker 3>not work, usually. Well, I guess that's it.