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Speaker 1: Oh man, I just I had a hard time today.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear why in the brand new episode of

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Speaker 1: our Second Date podcast.

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Speaker 2: It starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here at the official

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Speaker 1: podcast center of the world. It's Brook and Jeffreys Second

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Speaker 1: Day Podcast. Yeah, that's that's all I'm gonna say about it.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Today it's a little just like rage bait this man.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of comments probably fore

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Speaker 1: and against him, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah's true. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So what do we got in our comments section? Todate

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Speaker 4: We have Banana said what our name? Every morning I

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Speaker 4: listen to your podcast on my way to Costco. I

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Speaker 4: getting me through the day. As I hear whether or

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Speaker 4: not what box is right?

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Speaker 2: Question marks? Oh no, Costco? Yeah, Costco? All right, here

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Speaker 2: we go in bulk y Second Date update starts right now.

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Speaker 4: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Updates.

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Speaker 5: You know, Brooke was just commiserating with me the other

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Speaker 5: day about how hard it is for men on the

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Speaker 5: dating apps. Man, she just feels every day terrible.

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Speaker 2: I just can't imagine how hard it is to be

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she was saying it's not fair that men are

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've just had such a rough go throughout

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Speaker 5: I'm like reliving the conversation all over again. And because

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Speaker 5: that's kind of a widely known fact that men are

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Speaker 5: struggling on the apps right now, all these different new

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Speaker 5: strategies are emerging from dudes about how to deal with it,

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Speaker 5: how to beat it and win the dating game, just

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Speaker 5: like our listener today, Enrique, who says he is a

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Speaker 5: very specific strategy that's been working like no other time

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Speaker 1: And I am sure if he is on our show

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Speaker 1: that means he is winning.

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Speaker 5: I agree, Enrique. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, thanks for having me guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I really picked up jess sarcasm today,

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Speaker 1: like I took it on.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're glow. It's amazing on Brook right, Yeah

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Speaker 5: it is. She's blushing a little bit. Enrique. So you

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Speaker 5: mentioned in your email that you have a particular dating

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Speaker 5: strategy that you claim works really well, and you're willing

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Speaker 6: Man to rule number one, I never ask a woman

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Speaker 6: so many pathetic guys, man, you know, like questions like

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Speaker 6: how's your day? What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Why? Why is that pathetic to care about how someone's doing?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: How do you keep the combo going?

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Speaker 2: You just don't Okay, it's not.

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Speaker 1: The best question in the world. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that asking questions is a bad thing. That means you're interested,

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Speaker 5: Enrique Telbrook, why she's wrong?

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, all right, all right, So I'm going to

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 6: So, psychologically an attractive woman, weach questions, and I think

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Speaker 5: If you ask a woman a question, she thinks your

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Speaker 6: Well, it was just like that, very genetic, you know.

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Speaker 6: So just happened to the girl that I asked out

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Speaker 6: the other days. You know, I was like, I'm going

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Speaker 6: I gave her the location and she did.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think that piece is a bad strategy

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Speaker 2: Excisiveness is nice.

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Speaker 5: Well, he didn't ask you what you thought about his strategy, Brooks,

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Speaker 5: So guess.

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Speaker 2: What I'm going to give my opinion anyway, Je.

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Speaker 5: You and might get along. Yes, but is this the

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Indeed, what's her name?

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Speaker 6: And Amie's Kinsley?

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Speaker 5: Does your philosophy about no questions change once you're in person,

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Speaker 6: Well, when I'm with the person in person, right, I

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 5: You What do you mean you go full narcissist?

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Speaker 6: I just talked about myself again, just the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: If you present yourself as the best option, she will

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Speaker 2: So you're like the best froyo flavor in the in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Bro? What do you what do you think makes you

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Speaker 2: What do you brag about when you're with Kensley?

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Speaker 6: And like I said, again, you know, I don't ask

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, basically that's the whole line. I don't send pump

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Speaker 5: Okay, and by your strategy, she thinks you're so great.

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Speaker 5: From that conversation, she's going to want to pursue you

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Speaker 5: and never failed, buddy, except for right now, because you've

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Speaker 6: Well, Kinsley is the first one. That's why I'm reaching

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Speaker 2: Can I ask how long is this froyo date with Kinsley?

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Speaker 2: How much of it does she have to How long

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 6: I mean, look put it this week, we had our froyo,

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Speaker 6: too long because I had another day lined up like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, did you even do that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you had back to back dates on the

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Speaker 6: I don't think she found out because I didn't tell

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Speaker 5: He was like, oh I told her about it because

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Speaker 2: It would fit the philosophy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice to you leave a little mystery for

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Speaker 5: I think that's pretty cool. So have you since that

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't do the texting thing. Man's well,

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Speaker 6: lo low value you.

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Speaker 2: Guys do Wait?

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Speaker 1: Wait, if you haven't texted her or called her or anything,

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Speaker 1: how do you know she doesn't want to go out

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Speaker 6: That's why I'm calling you, guys. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 6: get paid to help us out, don't you, Not by

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Speaker 6: you but one? You know. So if you don't have me,

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Speaker 6: you don't have a job.

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Speaker 2: Oh so we should be grateful towards you.

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Speaker 5: I hey, thank you so much. We just want to

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Speaker 5: thank you. Yeah, yeah, we're very welcome.

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Speaker 6: I just to make sure everybody has a job. At

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Speaker 5: We'll be nice. He's paying all of our bills, you know.

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Speaker 2: I will say.

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes behavior like this is just masking insecurity, and so

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Speaker 1: I am sure that you are a lovely person who

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Speaker 6: Brooke, Brooke, I just got a reminder, you're married. You

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Speaker 6: can't do nothing with me. I respect married women.

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Speaker 5: Okay, maybe shocking, but.

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Speaker 2: That is not a concertive mind right now.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but real quick, it's been how many days since

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Speaker 5: you haven't texted Kinsley there are They was three days ago, three.

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Speaker 2: Days and she hasn't reached out to you. You're in

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Speaker 6: Know, Usually they reached out like in between four maybe

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Speaker 6: that's why I'm calling you, guys, if not only bothering

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, well.

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Speaker 2: He does have another radio show book two hours later.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but even still, it is a privilege that we

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Speaker 5: get to do this on your behalf. Thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for giving us the honor of Kinsley and asking

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Speaker 2: Willing to and teaching us such life lessons.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. We're going to continue this journey together when

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Speaker 5: we demonstrate what a high value man you are with

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Speaker 5: your second date update. Right after this hold on man

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey in the morning second date updates, We're on.

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Speaker 5: The phone with a very unique, self confident individual named

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Speaker 5: Enrique who's adopted a dating strategy that involves one main rule.

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Speaker 5: Never ask a woman any questions ever, because that demonstrates

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Speaker 5: low value as a man. Wait.

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Speaker 1: I don't know there's a rule or not, but you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's a question kind of implying there except

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Speaker 5: for one recent date with a woman named Kinsley where

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Speaker 5: they went to fro Yo and made out passionately, but

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Speaker 5: it has been three days. She has not texted him since,

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Speaker 5: and also he hasn't texted her either, because again it

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Speaker 2: A radio station not low value yea.

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Speaker 5: And since he can't ask the question, why aren't you

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Speaker 5: calling me for another date? Because remember, he doesn't ask questions,

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Speaker 5: he's getting us to ask it for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're grateful for that.

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Speaker 5: Remember that's also the Brook could not be more thrilled

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Speaker 5: that we are doing this on your behalf in Regay.

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Speaker 5: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: No, you're very very welcome.

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Speaker 2: I did not say that and ask your questions.

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Speaker 5: Why don't you just tell her like call me back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he's the one reaching out first. Sorry pathetic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, talk about you desperate and Brooke.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you're learning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta tell you your play is not that complicated.

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Speaker 1: I think that he took that as a compliment.

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Speaker 5: Simple and easy, breezy works every time.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be kind of quiet on this one,

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Speaker 2: all right, no problem.

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Speaker 5: Before we actually call her, let's just like remind everyone

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Speaker 5: not to blow in Rique's cover, because I'm sure he's

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Speaker 5: saying all this stuff to us. It probably didn't come

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Speaker 5: out on his date to Kinsley.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say, I can't ask you any questions because

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Speaker 1: it's against my moral dating code.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's keep that between us.

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Speaker 1: If she just noticed, I actually would love to not

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Speaker 5: Perfect, We are ready to go. Let's dial her right now.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 5: Hey is this Kinsley? Yes, Hey Kinsley. We're a radio show.

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Speaker 5: We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning and Oka, Hi,

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Speaker 5: good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Why are you calling me so happy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Sound very positive. We're calling because we do a segment

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Speaker 5: on this show called the Second Date Update. Okay, and

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Speaker 5: if you're familiar with that, but basically, it's where we

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Speaker 5: can help out listeners who've been out on a date

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Speaker 5: with somebody recently, but they're not getting a chance to

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Speaker 5: meet up a second time. We can try and reach

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Speaker 5: out and figure it out if there's a reason for it.

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Speaker 5: That's so free. Yeah, thank you for saying that. I

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Speaker 5: do think it's kind of sweet. We do kind of

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Speaker 5: God's work over here. Well, bottom line is a guy

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Speaker 5: named Enrique has asked us to reach out to you.

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Speaker 3: Enrique.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you're excited.

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Speaker 3: What did he say say about me?

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Speaker 2: Did you always know.

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Speaker 1: When someone goes up at the end of every question,

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He told us about your date to the Froyio shop

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Speaker 5: and said it went really well.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, you guys did have a really good makeout session.

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Speaker 3: He did tell us that it was really good.

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Speaker 5: So he did mention to us that the date was

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear what you have to say

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Speaker 2: about Enrique and the date.

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Speaker 3: He seems really nice, like a really busy guy, you know,

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay. So the reason that we're doing this call

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do that because the gate was kind

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Speaker 1: The Froio day I'm with you, like you get those

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Speaker 1: way station and you're like, whoa, but did we just

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Speaker 5: Of frozen but you didn't your h scream?

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Speaker 2: I tell you if you get those strawberries, it's like

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Speaker 2: any sure?

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Speaker 5: Why are you saying it's expensive?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: It was expensive because I had to pay for both

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and wait, you didn't you offer to pay?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I don't really remember how it went, but I did

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, fine, if you offered and he took you

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Speaker 1: aren't you calling him? What does that have to I

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just that he said that next time he

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Speaker 3: that right now? For it?

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Speaker 1: Are you sure you would be the one that paid

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he's the next time you meet that I

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Speaker 3: he said you.

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Speaker 5: Would cover it, and you're okay, So you said it,

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Speaker 5: so you're open to that total concept. It's just you

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Speaker 5: date within mercy for a date.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so I didn't want to call him until I

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Speaker 5: Oh awful, I see what's happened. Yeah, fix it? Fix

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Speaker 5: what I mean, it's all pretty much fixed. She just

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Speaker 5: understanding if he had just known that upfront, because I

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Speaker 5: need to tell you Kinsley. Enrique is on the other

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Speaker 3: He is, yeah, and he'd better be embarrassed.

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Speaker 5: Enrique.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, Enrique, I'm so sorry I haven't called you.

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Speaker 2: You're apologizing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I paid for the kid, and I left that tip.

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Speaker 3: You know, I said clip regular and then you said

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Speaker 3: they had really really good service, so I tipped extra. Well,

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Speaker 3: I just really wasn't budgeting for that.

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Speaker 5: Did you just say that he asked you to tip

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he could be really really good service for us.

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Speaker 5: That's a self.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, we need to take care of the

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Speaker 2: There's no we in that she paid for it. That's

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Speaker 2: not a wee situation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but we were together.

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Speaker 2: No, no, Enrique, Why aren't you going to pay for Ruth?

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Speaker 1: Chris? If it's your idea and it's where you want

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Speaker 1: to go, then it's just kind of an unwritten rule

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Speaker 3: You know, Hey, guys, you haven't given him a really

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Speaker 3: hard time. He has a different opinion and these he

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Speaker 1: Her voice got so high at the end that I

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Speaker 5: Well, she doesn't appreciate you coming after her, man Like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: she's got to stand up for her. Guy.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Kensley. You don't want to be with

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Speaker 2: go on a date with them, you know what.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm saving though, so I can ford it later.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, yes, okay, the date money behind it. I'm

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Speaker 5: just happy we were able to open up a channel

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Speaker 2: Just ask him about the date. Oh, let's get through this.

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Speaker 5: At the risk of sounding low value as a man,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to ask a question.

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Speaker 6: One second. Can I just say one thing though?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Wait, if not to you guys, okay, okay, another statement, Ley,

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Speaker 5: I love your lip. Okay, oh wow? All right, Well

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Speaker 5: this is perfect. So at this point we'd officially like

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Speaker 5: to ask. I mean, normally i'd ask Kinsley, but I

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Speaker 5: you go out on a date with Kinsley to Ruth

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Speaker 5: Chris Steakhouse. Kinsley will pay for it?

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Speaker 2: We pay for it. Yeah, don't you dare? Don't you dare?

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Speaker 2: We are paying for it.

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Speaker 6: Wait one second? Wait wait, wait, wait, wait one second,

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Speaker 6: hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 5: I'm the one who has to agree.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, ye, we're paying for it. I don't care

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Speaker 2: what Jeff said.

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Speaker 6: We'll pay for no, no, no, no, Brook for the date.

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Speaker 5: Then I say, yes, okay, Brooke, out of her own

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Speaker 2: And Brook oh hell no, I won't.

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Speaker 5: I mean Kinsley won't stay.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Brooks so much. This will go really long

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Speaker 3: way because I'm only working part time right now, but

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate you helping us out.

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Speaker 5: Brook is so nice. That's what I love about her.

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Speaker 2: Kensley email me.

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Speaker 5: We've broken Brook officially. Second date update, total success.

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Speaker 6: Wow, jeff did you guys learn something today?

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Speaker 2: Did we learn the guys?

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Speaker 5: That sounded like a question to me, bro Are you

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Speaker 6: No, no, I'm just saying that you guys learn Look

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Speaker 6: who's paying for the date at the end?

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Speaker 1: Did they?

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Speaker 5: Brooke? You are the master?

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Speaker 2: After I email Kinsley, there's not going to be another date,

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Speaker 2: that's what you think. Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 5: Text in seventy five nine to two says why wouldn't

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Speaker 5: Brooks stand up for that lady? More? Another says not cool?

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Speaker 5: Brook just lost respect.

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Speaker 2: On listen, here's the thing. Some people don't want to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, I'm gonna come to Brooks

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Speaker 5: defense here. I think Brooke tried and maybe she just

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Speaker 5: in these types of situations. But please, if you want

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Speaker 5: to blame anybody for what just happened, put it on me.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought you're gonna put it on Kinsley again.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, it was my fault for listening to what

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Speaker 5: Kinsley said she wanted.

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Speaker 2: It was your fault for choosing this guy's email that

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Speaker 2: was producer boy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's not my choice. But we try to live

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Speaker 5: by a rule on this show that we don't force

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Speaker 2: I don't live by that rule.

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Speaker 5: Well, what we want isn't necessarily what the listeners.

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Speaker 2: Want, and it might be what's best for them, Jack,

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Speaker 2: it might be, but.

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Speaker 5: If they want to choose their own path in life,

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Speaker 5: that's their choice to do it.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes we want drama.

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Speaker 2: We don't come crying to us, Okay, And so.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not even gonna force you to go find

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Speaker 5: our podcast and hit subscribe.

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Speaker 6: I am not like that.

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Speaker 5: It's your life. You subscribe to whatever podcast you want to,

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Speaker 5: hopefully it's ours Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. You

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Speaker 5: stop asking questions. Yeah, so you can't even ask people.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Just do it. Stop talking.

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Speaker 5: You got it.