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Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: bring it on. Slam the ground by foot a baker

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Speaker 1: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I

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Speaker 1: scared and nobody here's Paul Calvc. What what's that saying about?

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Speaker 1: There really is no offseason in the NFL? We've heard that.

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Speaker 1: What about the one that apparently there's trickeration though in

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Speaker 1: the offseason as well. I'm gonna explain this here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground. Paul Calvc, Darren Rman calotter guard effect. I'm

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Speaker 1: very glad that you two are here. It couldn't be

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Speaker 1: any two more qualified people to address the following gentleman.

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Speaker 1: Because when it comes to misinformation, disinformation, oh, I don't know, evasion,

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Speaker 1: I expect it. When it comes to the offseason and

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Speaker 1: player acquisition, I get it. I just did not expect

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Speaker 1: it when I clicked on Acy Cardinals dot com, or

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Speaker 1: at least that's what I thought. As I've been reading

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Speaker 1: these primer stories and I see the players listed at

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Speaker 1: each position group, and I'm like, okay, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: there's as safety. As I consult my little post it

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Speaker 1: note that I've written down here over the last week,

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Speaker 1: there's a safety on the roster named Chris Miller, not

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Speaker 1: the former quarterback, but I had no idea, and he

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Speaker 1: actually has a cap hit A six hundred sixty thousand.

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Speaker 1: By the way, there are two receivers on the roster

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Speaker 1: I'd never heard of, by the name of Rico Gafford

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Speaker 1: and Isaac Whitney. Show a hands Cardinals underground nation. Who

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Speaker 1: has heard of either one of those players? Who's actually

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Speaker 1: there's this was this was truly humiliating. Is when I

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Speaker 1: saw there's a tight end by the name of Ian Bunting.

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Speaker 1: And when I clicked on his name for further information,

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Speaker 1: because I never heard of him before, I realized he

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Speaker 1: actually played for my alma mater. So that was embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Oh this thing. We have guys like Picasso Nelson at corner.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw that name actually, just because you know,

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Speaker 1: not many guys in the NFL are named Picasso. And

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Speaker 1: then there's Kalfani Muhammad or running back who's counting on

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Speaker 1: the cap. I had no idea that some of these

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Speaker 1: first of all, they aren't because most of those guys

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned signed futures deals, so their contract doesn't

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Speaker 1: even kick in until March seventeenth. That's number one. It's

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Speaker 1: good to know you're paying attention to the transactions in

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Speaker 1: the off season, Paul. But the other part two, don't

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Speaker 1: forget in the off season, it's only the top fifty

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Speaker 1: one cap numbers, so most of these lower, lower salary

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Speaker 1: get to the end of the preseason. You can't call

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Speaker 1: it misinformation when it's actual premium information, like deep die

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Speaker 1: of information. This is the stuff that you should know.

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Speaker 1: As the Residents sideline guy. Week four of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: you need to know who Califanni Muhammad is. He was

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad last year. I'm like, it's not

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Speaker 1: like he's coming out of nowhere, Paul. Maybe it's the

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Speaker 1: twenty years of sleep deprivation. And you know my recall

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Speaker 1: has been corrupted and compromised. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: I won't call a misinformation. I just thought, like, for

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Speaker 1: a minute there, I'm like, you know, hashtag wth is

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Speaker 1: like Kyle messing with us here? What's going on? But Darren,

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Speaker 1: you're right on the fifty one only count against a cap.

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Speaker 1: That was a refresher when I read your article asy

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Speaker 1: Cordels dot com that until we get to later in

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Speaker 1: that's good. We're all learning together here on Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 1: or at least yours Trulius. Apparently, I will say this

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Speaker 1: that I did like the use of the word cannonball

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Speaker 1: then I think of JJ one. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: the offseason and the Cardinals. I don't know about that,

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Speaker 1: but Darren, we do know it will not be Hassan Reddick. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not completely ruling out a Son Reddick. All we

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Speaker 1: this point. Now, do we think that there's a good

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Speaker 1: one was Patrick Peterson, which I thought was interesting. Look,

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Speaker 1: we've talked a lot of times about Hassan Reddick and

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Speaker 1: what he brings to the table. He's twenty six years old,

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Speaker 1: he's got a double digit sack gear. But again, the

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Speaker 1: still don't feel a one hundred percent sure. Any other

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Speaker 1: So if they would have tagged him, that would have

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Speaker 1: not knowing exactly how much they're going to count. But

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Speaker 1: a Son Reddick. Weve a son Reddick. Thoroughly enjoyed watching

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Speaker 1: him PLAYEE last year, but it's one year. And within

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and rightfully so. But nobody should be

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Speaker 1: shocked right now that he wasn't franchise tagged or they

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Speaker 1: I think he's got that value. It's definitely an interesting

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Speaker 1: can continue to do it. I personally am very high

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Speaker 1: on what I saw from Hassan Reddick because he has

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Speaker 1: the natural speed, and it seemed like as the season

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Speaker 1: So I think he can get to the get to

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Speaker 1: which to me is such an important trait for some

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Speaker 1: edge rushers can catch up to a quarterback, and Hassan

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals would have been well served or

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Speaker 1: would be well served to bring him back. With that

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, You're spending a lot of money on your

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Speaker 1: I mean, you already put a lot of resources there

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Speaker 1: and you have to allocate them in different ways. You're

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Speaker 1: what Hassan Reddick did against the Giants against Seattle in

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Speaker 1: that home game, he did some special stuff, and these

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Speaker 1: that's what he tweeted out, isn't it? Right after him

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Speaker 1: was reported, he tweeted out, Darren, what's next? Is Son Reddick?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of reminded me a little bit. No,

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Speaker 1: you get drafted, it's not quite the same thing. So

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Speaker 1: let's face it, the difference between JJ Watt and Hassan

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Speaker 1: level of play, whereas Hassan Reddick felt the wrath a

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Speaker 1: better than anyone. If you go into a season, you

428
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Speaker 1: go into a game and you don't have a capable quarterback,

429
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Speaker 1: forget it. The bottom's gonna fall out. Guys won't believe

430
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Speaker 1: and it's the easiest way to submarine your season before

431
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Speaker 1: it even begins. So and yeah, we lived it not

432
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: too long ago, in between franchise Pro Bowl caliber quarterbacks.

433
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Speaker 1: So there's a poignant reminder. And Kyle, think about it.

434
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Speaker 1: Over the first half of last season, Kyler Murray was

435
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Speaker 1: a legitimate candidate in the MVP race. Do you think

436
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Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott and numbers and big money does eniting

437
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: to him? Knowing what Darren just said, coming off year

438
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Speaker 1: number three is his initial time to launch into long

439
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: term negotiations. Do you think that sort of news and

440
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: happening here in the offseason impacts is twenty twenty one

441
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Speaker 1: regular season at all? Before Before you answer this, Kyle,

442
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Speaker 1: because I do want to know your answer to this,

443
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: but I also have to this is a dual question

444
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 1: here because I don't want to get too far off

445
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: the topic. I want to know how disappointed you are

446
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: that you didn't get to live through some of those

447
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: times covering the Cardinals, because you got here when Carson

448
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: Palmer was like just ramping up, So it was I

449
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: mean for a while there the Cardinals were playing like

450
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: eight fifty football percentage wise when you're around or whatever

451
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: crazy number it was. So you know you didn't get

452
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 1: to see any of that. Did you miss any of that?

453
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Speaker 1: And then answer the question about Kyler and I'm head, Darren,

454
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Speaker 1: what in the same name of Rich Bartell are you

455
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: talking about? And are you asking Kyle ordregard to comment

456
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Speaker 1: on go kind I got a taste of it in

457
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Granted it wasn't seven years or whatever you

458
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: guys had in a row between between Curt and Carson.

459
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: I had an abbreviated taste of it, which the Sam

460
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: Bradford and Josh Rosen year didn't go so well. I

461
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: think you know, Tyler Murray, the mental picture of Sam

462
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: Bradford on the ground in the Bears game and not

463
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: getting up with his face masks buried at the thirteen

464
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Speaker 1: yard line. Just think of back for that whole stretch anyway.

465
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Speaker 1: To be honest, it just seemed like seven years for us.

466
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Speaker 1: It was only three. It was twenty eleven, twenty twelve,

467
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: so it was only three seasons. It just felt a

468
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: lot longer. And this really reinforces the fact that Steve

469
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Speaker 1: Kim and Michael Bidwill did make that decision to draft

470
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, which I know we've kind of talked about

471
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Speaker 1: many many times. But now that they're back and they

472
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Speaker 1: turned it around pretty quickly. I know twenty nineteen the

473
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Speaker 1: record wasn't good, but that was probably the smoothest five

474
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Speaker 1: win team of all time. There was like all good

475
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Speaker 1: vibes with that twenty nineteen, and now the pressure is on,

476
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Speaker 1: and I think, I think if you're Kyler Murray, it's

477
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Speaker 1: certainly a reminder of how important this season is. He's

478
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Speaker 1: the type of personality where he's very confident in himself.

479
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: He's very cool, even in like pressure situations. It never

480
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: feels like he is nervous. They're certainly players and coaches

481
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: that might be nervous about certain things, but Kyler Murray

482
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: never gives off that vibe and I believe it. I

483
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: don't think he gets rattled by much. So I feel

484
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: like he knows the type of contracts that are out there.

485
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Speaker 1: He knows what he'll get if he has another good season.

486
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Speaker 1: I think if he progresses from the numbers he did

487
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Speaker 1: in season two in season three, it'll be a no brainer.

488
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Speaker 1: Like Darren said that he's gonna get that type of extension,

489
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't rattle him. I mean, we've seen him.

490
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Speaker 1: He's he was a number one overall pick, and I

491
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: remember flying back with him from Nashville to Phoenix and

492
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Speaker 1: talking to his dad, and his dad's like, all right,

493
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: what's next. Now, We're ready to take the NFL by storm.

494
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Speaker 1: And they weren't like excited about being the number one pick.

495
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Speaker 1: They weren't worried about what it means with the pressure.

496
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: It's just that family and Kyler himself just have complete,

497
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: utmost confidence what he can do. So I think he's

498
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna be ready and he's gonna want to perform well,

499
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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's gonna be any pressure knowing that, yeah,

500
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be eligible for that Mammoth extension next offseason,

501
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: and look, picking Kyler Murray number one in twenty nineteen,

502
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: training for DeAndre Hopkins in two twenty, now signing JJ

503
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: Watt in twenty twenty one. Yes, the Cardinals are tracking

504
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: to win the offseason for the third straight year. I'll

505
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Speaker 1: leave it. But at the same time, going back to

506
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Speaker 1: what sam Acho told us in the Big Red Rage

507
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: not too long ago, about a month ago, defenses did

508
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: adjust to Kyler Murray. I would be spending a lot

509
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: of time here in the offseason studying a lot of

510
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: game film as to what he faced, especially in this

511
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: second half of the season, and especially against the Belichick

512
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: disciples that are out there. The defensive schemes they gave

513
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: the card offense issues at times, because Taren, we all

514
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: know this. If it gave you problems once, you're gonna

515
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 1: see it again until you prove it. And here, and

516
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: whether it's a virtual offseason or not, you know, defensive coordinators,

517
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: especially within the division are studying that game film and said, oh,

518
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: this seemed to be pretty effective against the Cardinals and

519
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. You know, clearly the Cardinals have a handful

520
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: of things that when you go into the season, we're

521
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: all going to be watching closely on both sides of

522
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: the ball and in the coaching staff, to be honest,

523
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's any question that the main

524
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: thing that's going to be under the spotlight is going

525
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: to be what this offense looks like, how Kyler Murray

526
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Speaker 1: operates within it, and the kind of adjustments that you're

527
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: talking about, Paul, and how they try and fix some

528
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: of the issues that they had down the stretch. When

529
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: you talk about being quote unquote figured out and where

530
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: that can go, I think that's absolutely going to be

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Speaker 1: the first thing. Ever, he looks sad, all right, and

532
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: we know what Kyla Murray's looking at to a certain degree,

533
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: and that's the offensive line. And look, quick thought, quick

534
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: shout out to big d You got Dak Prescott, you

535
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: better fix your offensive line. They got issues the Cowboys

536
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: right now up front. We talked about it a little

537
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: bit earlier. It could be anywhere from three to four

538
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: potentially new starters on that offensive line for the Arizona

539
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals if we're looking at where they are right now

540
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: tracking TikTok towards the league year. Let's just start with

541
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Speaker 1: right tackle and Kelvin Beecham. Guys, Kyle, give me your

542
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: expectation there. Do you think that's a realistic possibility. Is

543
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Gilbert in the mix. We've got nothing from Cliff Kingsbury.

544
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: He didn't want to or didn't know enough to comment

545
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: on that. Josh Jones, it seems like most of the

546
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: chatter seems to be leaning towards guard. That seems to

547
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: be pretty wide open right now. Yeah, and I think

548
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: it wants to go once again goes back to the

549
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: allocation of resources. Where would you like to have a young,

550
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: talented right tackle a pair with DJ Humphreys. Definitely, And

551
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: maybe you do think that's Josh Jones down the line,

552
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you're just slow playing it, but you still

553
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: believe in his ability to play there. And if so,

554
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: then Kelvin Beacham makes a lot of sense to bring

555
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: back if the price is right, and then you just

556
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: eventually shift to Josh Jones. But if you think Jones

557
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: is a guard longer term and you want somebody young

558
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: or somebody super talented and you want to make a

559
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: splash there, it's not out of the question that the

560
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals sign a right tackle, but they're expensive, so to me,

561
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Beacham makes sense if he's willing to play for a

562
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: pretty low cost deal. Last year you got him super cheap.

563
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: He was a great value. Does he have a bigger market?

564
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: He's a year older, but he just showed you he'll

565
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: play sixteen games again and be solid. So I think

566
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Speaker 1: it all depends on how much he wants and how

567
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: much he's he gets in the open market. But I

568
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: think it's a smart idea to bring him back. I

569
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: think what you had on the book ends last year

570
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: was solid. I think the interior struggled at times, especially

571
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: center and right guard, so maybe that's the upgrade area.

572
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: But if you can bring Beacham back at this point,

573
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a pretty good idea. And as

574
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Speaker 1: much as I've been a proponent of the Cardinals going

575
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: corner one of those three corners at sixteen in Round

576
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: one since basically the end of last season, there are

577
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: plenty of mock drafts Darren and at the Cardinals go

578
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: on offensive line and tackle at number sixteen, And I'm

579
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Speaker 1: guessing if there's a scenario where you think there's a

580
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: guy sitting there at sixteen who can give you what

581
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Tristan Worse gave Tampa at thirteen last year, he absolutely

582
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: crushed it. If the Cardinals somehow, some way could find

583
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: that guy at that spot, I'd run that card up

584
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: to the ponium and submit my pick instantly. I'm not

585
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: arguing with that at all. And I think that's where

586
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: when we talk about mock drafts and we talk about

587
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: predicting what could happen, I mean, it just it's so hard.

588
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean, can we narrow it down like I do?

589
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: I think they're going to go out and and draft

590
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: a safety at sixteen. No, I don't think they're going

591
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: to draft a safety. I don't think they're gonna draft

592
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: the running back. But do I think it could be

593
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or a cornerback, or an offensive lineman

594
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: or still a defensive lineman or an edge rusher. I

595
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: think all those are in play. And then, because I

596
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: think when you start talking about the first round, especially,

597
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: it's a very case by case kind of basis. You know,

598
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: you start veering into the needs after you get through

599
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: the first round, especially where they're going to be picking

600
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: in the second round middle of the way, Then you

601
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: can start saying, Okay, what do we got out there?

602
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: Because everybody's going to kind of settle, but you're only

603
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: going to have twenty to twenty five guys that you're

604
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: going to see is and maybe less, but only twenty

605
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: to twenty five guys that you see as a first

606
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: round caliber player. So there's only gonna be so many

607
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: choices you're going to have. And so I agree, if

608
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: you're looking at your owner back, you think could be

609
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: okay and certainly a starter, but nothing unbelievable. But you

610
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: see a warfs light worfs like offensive lineman, I'm absolutely

611
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: sy drafting the offensive lineman. I think that makes all

612
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: the sense in the world, right, So, Kelvin Beecham, let's

613
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: stick with offense. Kyle, what do you think about Kenyan Drake?

614
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: Any chance he's an Arizona Cardinal in twenty twenty one.

615
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: I think the only chance would be if he goes

616
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: to the open market and just doesn't get any multi

617
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: year offer or anything that looks good. I mean, I

618
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals would like to have him back. I

619
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: think they enjoyed the tandem of Kenyan Drake and Chase Edmonds.

620
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: But knowing that you've got these other holes and knowing

621
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: what Chase Edmonds showed you last year and his price,

622
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so cheap, and if you can get

623
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: good production for low salary. That's that's the name of

624
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: the game. So I don't think they want to pay

625
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: a king's ransom for Kenyan Drake. But we don't know

626
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: what this market is going to look like. I mean,

627
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: there have been times to me. Andre Ellington comes to

628
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: mind a few years ago where it seemed like he

629
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: was out the door and no market really developed and

630
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: he resigned. So I think that would be the scenario,

631
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be for the minimum. I mean, Kenyan

632
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Drake would still get some money, but if it's not

633
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: what he desires, maybe he likes this fit and this

634
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: team and this scheme, and if that's the case, you

635
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: could run it back with those two. I think it

636
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: just all depends on if Kenyan Drake has suitors in

637
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: free agency. And I'm with you, Darren, there are plenty

638
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: of mockdress would also have Travis Etn going to the

639
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals at sixteen. I'm not buying that, even though Etn

640
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: actually said in a podcast that would be his under

641
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: the radar dream scenario going to the Cardinals at sixteen,

642
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: and he's dynamic. I just don't see that position in

643
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: the middle of the first round. What do you make

644
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: of that? Position, how the Cardinals might address it, whether

645
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: it's Kenyan, Drake are otherwise, well, I mean, I agree

646
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: with Kyle that I don't think the Cardinals would mind

647
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: having Drake back. I do think Kenyan was really hoping

648
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: that he would get the big money, longer term deal

649
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: this offseason. Now, whether he was ever realistically going to

650
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: get it anyways, I don't know whether he was ever

651
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: going to realistically get it in an offseason that where

652
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: the cap got hacked, I don't know. I think with

653
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: a guy like Drake, I agree with Kyle in terms

654
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: of I think you look at the market and I don't.

655
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the Cardinals own guys, and

656
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: I think this will go true with a lot of

657
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: guys around the league, especially if you were in a

658
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: good spot. And this is why I wouldn't completely close

659
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: the door on Reddick, because if you think you're in

660
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: a good spot now and the reason you're leaving is

661
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: because of the money, and the money doesn't come, and

662
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: all things being equal, why wouldn't you want to stay?

663
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: If you're a son Reddick, why wouldn't you want to

664
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: have a fifteen potentially fifteen SAX season while everybody's worried

665
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: about J. G. Watt and Chandler Jones on a one

666
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: year deal in Arizona. If you can get five million

667
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: dollars year and no one else is offering you much

668
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: more than that because of all the constraints. Now again,

669
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Reddick is a special thing, and I do think he'll

670
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: be offered more somewhere. But I think a lot of

671
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: these guys the door will be open, relatively speaking, and

672
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be conversations with a lot of

673
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: them saying, Okay, hit the market and then see what

674
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: you got. And so I think there's gonna be more

675
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: guys resigning with teams this year than previous years, just

676
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: because it makes more sense to tread water for a

677
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: year with the team you're already on. Look, let's just

678
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: go down the line, let's switch sides. And Kyle Patrick Peterson,

679
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: I know he made some comments it was USA today.

680
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Not much to say in terms of, you know, an indication,

681
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: just said, look, I'm going to be playing I'm not

682
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: exactly sure where. If you're reading between the lines, you're

683
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: in the off season. Do you think he's coming to

684
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: grips with the reality that more and more it's looking

685
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: like he might apt to go elsewhere. Did you read

686
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: between the lines and that one was there enough there?

687
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't see it, but I'll read between the

688
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: lines anyways and give you my opinion. I think at

689
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: this point in where you're at in free agency, it

690
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: does feel like it's it's more likely than not for

691
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys to leave. And you just

692
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: look at the pure mathematical probabilities where there's thirty one

693
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: other places you can go in one place you can stay.

694
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: So I think there's gonna be teams that are going

695
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: to offer him a contract, and Patrick Peterson will obviously

696
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: get offers. Are they going to be exactly what he wants?

697
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: We'll see, but there will be suitors for his services.

698
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of these guys a Son, Reddick, Kenyan, Drake,

699
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, like if they if they make it to Monday,

700
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: the tampering period, and they haven't resigned with the Cardinals,

701
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: it's going to be more likely than not that they leave,

702
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, because they're gonna have this big open

703
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: dialogue with a lot of different teams and then and

704
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: then the reason they come back is because they just

705
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the market they wanted, And I mean, there's

706
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: not gonna be like a feeding frenzy this year for

707
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: most guys, but a lot of them will still get

708
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: solid deals and go elsewhere. So I feel like the

709
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: closer will you get, the less the likelihood is that

710
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: these guys come back. Here's the quote Patrick Peterson says

711
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: his potential return to the Cardinals is quote out of

712
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: my control. I know that I will be playing football

713
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: for someone, So that's something we don't know what exactly there.

714
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: How rich is the free agent market if not Pat P?

715
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Do you expect a free agent signing just at the

716
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: position period? And by that I don't mean just I

717
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: don't mean just a guy, but established, reliable, potential number

718
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: one corner? Is that? Do you think almost priority number one?

719
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: Right now? Darren Well, I'm gonna let this one go

720
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to Coyle because he looked like he was about to

721
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: jump out of his seat to say, I mean, I

722
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: think you have to write like, if you don't bring

723
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson back, what's the plan if you don't get

724
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: a number one cornerback in free agency? I don't think

725
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: you can go to the draft and say, hey, at

726
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: number sixteen, we're gonna take a guy that we believe

727
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: is going to be the number one corner which what

728
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: if the three or four cornerbacks you like, suddenly going

729
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen for some strange reason and you're

730
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: out of luck. I mean, you have to have a

731
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: backup plan. And seeing Steve kimes blueprint every single year,

732
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: he always tries to fill the big needs in free

733
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: agency so he doesn't have to reach in the draft.

734
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: So I think, whether it's Patrick Peterson or somebody else's

735
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna put some of this salary cap money to

736
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: a solid cornerback to kind of head that group. And

737
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: don't I mean, we just went through this last year,

738
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Paul with Devondre Campbell. I mean all I heard all

739
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: year was why aren't the Cardinals starting Isaiah Simmons? Why

740
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: aren't they starting Isaiah Simmons? And there were multiple reasons

741
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: for that, but one of the biggest was they signed

742
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Vandre Campbell, who had the experience, and they didn't know

743
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: they were going to be able to draft Isaiah Simmons.

744
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: And once they did, had they and not had tove

745
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: Andre Campbell, would they have probably plugged in Isaiah Simmons

746
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: and just dealt with it. Probably, but they didn't because

747
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure that that position was covered

748
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: no matter what happened in the draft. And so I

749
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: agree with Kyle. I think there's going to be a

750
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: cornerback sign And the bottom line is, if Patrick Peterson

751
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: leaves and you draft the guy high, even in the

752
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: first round, then all of a sudden you have the

753
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: solid guy you signed and Byron Murphy and this first

754
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: round pick, and then all of a sudden you feel

755
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: a little bit better about your cornerbacks than you did

756
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: two months ago. And you guys are right. You can't

757
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: go into draft with such a gaping, glaring hole and

758
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: need that. It's a tell. And then all of a sudden,

759
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: other teams, we'll look at you on the board and deduce, oh,

760
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Colonels is sitting there at sixteen. We want a corner.

761
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: They definitely want a corner. Now, all of a sudden

762
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: they trade up to fifteen or fourteen and they take

763
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: your guy. Well, why do you got to bring up

764
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahome like that? You say that may or may

765
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: not have happened one year. Oh, the year that Patrick

766
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Deshaun Watson went. So I think that's something

767
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: any general manager has to consider and as he had

768
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: another reason, why, yes, they're gonna have to fill that

769
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: on the Jeb Shart, no doubt about it, whether you

770
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: know it's Patrick Peterson or someone else, Darren, Where else

771
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: are you thinking in terms of names? What about tight End?

772
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean, is that feasible? Dan? I'm not quite on

773
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: the Dan Arnold well as a hype train last offseason.

774
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: And I love Dan and he was great on the

775
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, but I really do wonder what the

776
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: front office is thinking about a guy who had a

777
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: number of key drops a number of key penalties. Does

778
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: that combine to keep his number down? And do you

779
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: expect him to remain a cardinal for that or any

780
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: other reason? Darren? What do you think on a Dan

781
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: Arnold and tight End? Well? The first thing I think

782
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: of Dan Arnold is I think, having talked to him

783
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: a few times, I think he's very appreciative of the

784
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: opportunity that he got with Cliff Kingsbury. I think he

785
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: feels like he's a really good fit in this offense. Now,

786
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: does that mean he's going to take a lot less

787
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: money if somebody else comes along and says, we really

788
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: like you when we're gonna pay this No, I don't think,

789
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: and I don't think he should, but I don't know

790
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: how much his market is really going to be there.

791
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: It's not like he posted huge numbers. I don't think

792
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: anybody's going to be chasing down Dan Arnold and there's

793
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: going to be this big feeding frenzy. I do think

794
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: he's somebody that they can bring back at a reasonable deal,

795
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and I think they would probably like to have him,

796
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: so that Mike Gut says that, But we'll see what happens.

797
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting. You know. Steve Kim said

798
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: he would like to resign some of his guys before

799
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: free agency actually happens. And since the tampering thing starts

800
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: on Monday, two days ahead of the real free agency,

801
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: and that's when guys can talk to anybody anyways, you're

802
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: running out of time quickly to get somebody under contract

803
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: before they start talking to other teams. So if anything

804
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: is going to happen, it's going to be this week.

805
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: And I'm curious. I mean, if you're Dan Arnold, unless

806
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are saying this is a take it or

807
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: leave it offer, and if you hit the open market,

808
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: this has gone and we don't can't promise it'll be back.

809
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't test it now. I mean,

810
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: if you're Hassan Reddick, if you're Patrick Peterson, if you're anybody,

811
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: you're so close to it, why would you not look

812
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: on the open market unless you're like one of these

813
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: guys down the list a little bit where you're like,

814
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable here. I know my market's not going to

815
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: be much different anywhere else, so I might as well

816
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: take it if they want to offer it here unless

817
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: there's a standing offer from their current team and right,

818
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: and then and then all of a sudden they hit

819
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: the open market and there's not nearly what they expected

820
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: and that evaporates. Then all of a sudden, guess what

821
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: that's standing offer or the team knows it, and you

822
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: lose your leverage. So yeah, you know, it's always part

823
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: of the game if you're a player and trying to

824
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: figure that out. Look, if Dan Arnold doesn't get the

825
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: deal right before free agency, I could see him lasting

826
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: well into the off season and then still remaining a

827
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: car And I could see that same with Corey Peters

828
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: coming off the injury. Kyle, you can talk about one

829
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: or the other or both. But you know, Corey Peters

830
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: think we all have respect for that guy. He's very

831
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: well respect in that locker room. He's still very stout

832
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: against the run. Now he's coming off a knee injury.

833
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: At his above thirty years old and counting, I could see,

834
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, based on his health, he could be a

835
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: guy kind time signed at the variant. Yeah, I think

836
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: both sides kind of would would like to see that happen.

837
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Corey Peters, we know, has great affinity for the Cardinals,

838
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: and he's been very no nonsense about extensions. He's just

839
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: kind of signed them quietly. He's obviously not a dramatic

840
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: guy or he's not gonna make any noise. He just

841
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: keeps on signing him and keeps on coming back. And

842
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: the injury and the age complicate things a little bit.

843
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: Whereas he physically will he be ready to play for

844
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: the start of the season. So you're right, maybe it's

845
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: later in the off season, but he's a He's a

846
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: great guy to have in the locker room on the

847
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: defensive line for cheap, So it makes sense to me.

848
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: I think Dan Arnold and his situation is very intriguing

849
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: to me, Like he could be a guy who has

850
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: suitors because he has a rare athletic ability for a

851
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: tight end, where I mean he didn't put up humongous numbers,

852
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: but having around five hundred receiving yards as a tight end,

853
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: it's it's something that's going to keep you in the

854
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: top what fifteen or twenty tight ends in the NFL,

855
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: So it's not like it was nothing. But you mentioned

856
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: the penalties and some of the concentration issues. So he

857
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: might have an interesting market to me where I could

858
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: see somebody given him a few million dollars, or I

859
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: could see him having to play for the minimum and

860
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: or maybe coming back to the Cardinals at a team

861
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: friendly deal. But that to me is one guy who

862
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to be intrigued to see what his market

863
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: looks like when free agency begins. I'm also intrigued to

864
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: see what the Cardinals have in mind or a backup quarterback.

865
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: You know, nobody is a love struggle or more than

866
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: yours truly and manage for a level and all that,

867
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: but well chronicled, you know, And I get instant last

868
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: right on that one. But at the same time, you know,

869
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: get a grip over here, a CALVC I never expected

870
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: him to be the backup quarterback. I never expected him

871
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: to get this sort of meaningful playing time he did

872
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: obviously at the end of the year and be in

873
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: position to run the team with a playoff spot on

874
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the line. Darren, what do you think when it comes

875
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: to backup quarterback this season? I think that's an excellent question.

876
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: I just did a a streaming radio show in Canada

877
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: this past week or so, a week or two weeks,

878
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: and they asked me about Struggler and I basically said, look,

879
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: he struggled and they might need to go in a

880
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: different direction. And I think a lot of people thought

881
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: he was gonna, you know, be the Taysom Hall Center

882
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: center all the things we've talked about, and they posted

883
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: that on that clip on social media and I heard

884
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: from some people in Canada and they won't happen. I

885
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: did open up the phone lines and all the listeners

886
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: blasted you. So I know how the Canadians feel. Look,

887
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: I don't know Chris very well. I've talked to him

888
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: once extended on the phone when he first signed, and

889
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: then we had a couple of zooms with him. I

890
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: think he could be good in the locker room. I

891
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: still think there's a possibility of using him in some

892
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: different ways, and maybe who knows, at some point he

893
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: is ready to be a backup quarterback in this league.

894
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ready last year. And I

895
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: when I think of a backup quarterback, and they've been

896
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have been fortunate that Kyler Murray at this

897
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: point has not missed any starts. He's missed some time,

898
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: but he hasn't missed any starts, and I think of

899
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: a long term situation. I don't think of just getting

900
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: me out of a game. I'm also thinking about if

901
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 1: he if Kyler Murray goes down for two or three games,

902
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: can't is there somebody there that can step in? And

903
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I just right now I have big questions about that

904
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: for this team. So yeah, I think it's something they

905
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: got to consider largely, all right, which brings us a

906
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: full circle to Larry and so anybody had anything of

907
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: any value, any merit on the Larry fish Gerald front, Kyle,

908
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: are we hearing anything? I just appreciate that, Like every

909
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: single person that the Cardinals put on Zoom, they just

910
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: get asked like, have you talked to Larry Fitzgerald? Do

911
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: you know the decision. It's like, yeah, DJ Humphreeze is

912
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: gonna break break the news to the world in our

913
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: zoom press conference that Larry's retiring. I think Larry is

914
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: keeping it well under wraps, and if anybody does know,

915
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: they've been sworn to secrecy on what he's gonna do.

916
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: But that being said, I mean, Steve Kime said he

917
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily need to know Larry's decision before free agency.

918
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: To me, that would be very surprising if we don't know.

919
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: And what does that mean for the team building aspect?

920
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a big domino that needs

921
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: to fall to figure out a couple of other things

922
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: with the cap, with the offense, and so I feel like,

923
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, we've got it here soon. But I've thought

924
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: that for several weeks now and nothing yet. So so

925
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Once again, I bolsters our theory.

926
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: There's another cannon ball coming. He's waiting. He's waiting for

927
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: the other cannonball to drop. We'll see. We'll see about that.

928
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: I will say this. I mean, I don't know if

929
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: this happened to you guys. I had a buddy I

930
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: hadn't heard from in a while. And he sent me

931
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: two words in a text, fits question mark, retire question mark.

932
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: And it's like whoa, whoa. And then you know, you start,

933
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: you pick up your phone, you start strolling through Twitter.

934
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: One am I missing? Is this the moment? You know?

935
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: You're like an expectant father, what the water broke? What

936
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: you know? You're like, what's going on around here? And

937
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: and then and he's like, no, I was just asking

938
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: what you think. I'm like, don't do that to me, Okay,

939
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's U at this point. No,

940
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: if that's me, I imagine you, Darren. I mean, I mean,

941
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: do you do you literally find yourself checking your phone

942
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: more than ever just to see if there's anything out there.

943
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: I do. I find myself carrying around my computer more

944
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: than ever. I remember one of the years. It was

945
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: the year that I think Jim Trotter broke the news.

946
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly something happened, and maybe it wasn't Fits,

947
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure it was Fits. And my son

948
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: was in the room and he goes, hey, dad, ESPN

949
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: just tweeted that Fitz is coming back or something like that.

950
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I forget what it was, but your

951
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: stomach drops and you're like, how the heck didn't I

952
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: know about this ahead of time? Come on, somebody's got

953
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: to loop me in here. I will say, I agree

954
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: with Kyle. I would have thought we would have known

955
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: by now, Love Larry. Do feel like there's a certain

956
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: amount of walking on eggshells on a daily basis as

957
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: we wait to see exactly what's going to happen, especially

958
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: with all the other news that could potentially happen over

959
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: the next week. I'm what's really interesting, and you guys

960
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: know this, and I'm not really telling the world anything exciting,

961
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: but our department is having a retreat next week, and

962
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: there's like a X number of hours in the day

963
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: that we're going to be out in a retreat. And

964
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh God, please don't let it happen that day.

965
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: Please don't let it happen that day. Do not reveal

966
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: the date. I mean, just like, like, you know, just

967
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: like Steve Kime said, you know, Larry could be messing

968
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: with us, you know, don't don't don't reveal the date.

969
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: We're not putting it beneath him. Okay to pull something

970
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, come on, now, by the way, that's

971
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: A great strategy is apparently you you've outsourced Larry Watch

972
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: to your kids. Is that right, Darren? So Dad, Dad

973
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: needs some dad time over here, and so you assign

974
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: your kids to monitor all social platforms. That's well done.

975
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I might have to incorporate that. Well, I got I

976
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: got one kid who's got every alert known to man,

977
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: sports wise that comes to his phone, So I don't

978
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: really have to do much work. I mean, it's just

979
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: it's a natural thing. There are so many times where

980
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, did you hear this? And he goes, yeah,

981
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be able to look

982
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: out for a co buy line when fits decides. Right. Yeah,

983
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: try and beat a teenager these days with real time news.

984
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: It's it's not really gonna happen. Technically, he's not a

985
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: teenager anymore. He's a full blown adult twenty one years old.

986
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: So maybe I can get him a job. He needs

987
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: a freaking job, so well, you never know. I mean,

988
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be a kid time sign at some point here,

989
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, on the on the job market.

990
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: That's good. Um, is he getting a stimulus check? I mean,

991
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, dudelet jerk, he'll map more disposable cash than

992
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: you rule soon. That's how that's gonna work. How do

993
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: you want to wrap this one up? You know, Kyle,

994
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: did we disagree on another another piece of content about

995
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: what position the Cardinals should target in free agency. Let's

996
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: just come full circle and if you add your druthers

997
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: and as you near the legal tampering and then March seventeenth,

998
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: if there was one position you could go ahead and

999
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 1: make that cannonballs splash, which position room would it be? Kyle?

1000
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you could say anything but cornerback

1001
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: at this point. I think I mean wide receiver would

1002
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: be nice for sure, Like if you can add one

1003
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: of these big names to your wide receiver crew, that's awesome,

1004
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: But you have DeAndre Hopkins already and you got Christian

1005
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: Kirk under contract. It would be nice because of the

1006
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: passing game struggles last year to add to it. And

1007
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a necessity at some point this offseason

1008
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: to either at a free agent, add a draft pick,

1009
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: do something to try to bring the ceiling up for

1010
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: that overall group. But if you go splash at wide

1011
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: receiver and you spend a lot of your cap and

1012
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: then you don't have a lot of money at corner

1013
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: I think that could be a dangerous game to play.

1014
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: So I feel like cornerback is going to be a

1015
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: main option. It would have to be like these top

1016
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: guys just get obscene deals for the Cardinals not to

1017
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: be in the hunt for those guys just because of

1018
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: the way the roster composition sits. I just feel like

1019
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: you have to be strong at cornerback in the present

1020
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: day NFL, and right now the Cardinals just don't have

1021
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: a lot of very good options, and I get it,

1022
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: it's a serious risk. The rub for me is that

1023
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I feel so much better about getting an established wide

1024
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: receiver and free agency versus compared to the draft to

1025
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: meet more than ever. For whatever reason, these rookie wide

1026
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: receivers are just unreliable. It just it's hard to forecast.

1027
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: Thirteen wide receivers went in the first two rounds of

1028
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: last year's draft, a record in the NFL, and I

1029
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: think two of them really had an impact. And so

1030
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: if you want to count on a rookie to have

1031
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: an impact in year one, round one, I'm much more

1032
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: comfortable with a corner coming in and being that guy

1033
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: than a receiver these days. Hence that would lead me

1034
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: to try and to target a receiver in free agency.

1035
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: But I get it the way this particular roster is.

1036
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you could be minus. You could be in

1037
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: need of three corners going into this off season. And

1038
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: for me, that's where it comes down to. Is I

1039
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, Paul in terms of that, but

1040
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like even if you drafted a receiver,

1041
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: if he doesn't end up number two, if maybe Christian

1042
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: Kirk ups his game a little bit and some guy

1043
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: gives you a three, I mean, the difference when you've

1044
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: already got don DeAndre Hopkins. The difference to me between

1045
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: taking a first round pick and saying you might be

1046
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: my number two or number three receiver in this offense

1047
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: just take some pressure off and taking a cornerback and

1048
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: saying you're the number one guy and we have a

1049
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: big drop off to number two. That's awful scary to

1050
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: me and to me if you were going to push

1051
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: your chips in and sign a guy like JJ Way,

1052
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why you'd want to like skimp on

1053
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense to a certain extent. And again,

1054
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of needs here and they

1055
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: are in a tougher position. It would have been nice

1056
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: to have some of these cornerbacks they've drafted, and they

1057
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: haven't drafted many high, but it would have been nice

1058
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: to have some of them pan out over the years.

1059
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: I get that. But you you know, even if you

1060
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: keep Patrick Peterson, whether he leaves an how or later,

1061
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: he was eventually going to leave. And you've done a

1062
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Speaker 1: nice job of having him be the superstar cornerback for

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Speaker 1: all these years. He wasn't gonna do it for forty years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that just wasn't gonna happen. Eventually, you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go in that direction. So I

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Speaker 1: just I agree with Kyle right now, the way it's

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Speaker 1: all set up. I don't know how you do anything

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Speaker 1: but look for cornerbacks and if you get one solid

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Speaker 1: guy that changes the dynamic. And it doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be an Antonio Cromarti, per se, But I mean, how

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Speaker 1: great would that be, depending on what the market is

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Speaker 1: is if you've got a guy like Antonio Crimarti even

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Speaker 1: a little bit later because he wants to play with

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Speaker 1: Kyler and j. J. Watt and Chandler Jones and do

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of that which goes back to

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Speaker 1: what we've been talking about these last couple of podcast

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Speaker 1: which is maybe you get a name that is willing

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Speaker 1: to come here one year just because these other names

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Speaker 1: are here. I think you can time time sign the

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Speaker 1: number two cornerback, or look for the first round and

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Speaker 1: get a number two cornerback in the first round. I

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Speaker 1: just wouldn't want to do it with that number one.

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Speaker 1: I think you need an established guy to be your

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Speaker 1: top cornerback. If it's Patrick Peterson, fine, I think playing

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Speaker 1: that game and being a little bit risky with the

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Speaker 1: number two cornerback, I could live with that. If I'm

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Speaker 1: Steve Kainin because you've seen it before. We're last year

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Speaker 1: Drake Kirkpatrick came in in training camp and he was fine.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't phenomenal, but the Cardinals past defense was a

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Speaker 1: decent group. So I think number two cornerback, you can

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Speaker 1: take a risk. Number one, I think it's just too

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Speaker 1: risky to do so. And as ridiculously talented as Patrick

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Speaker 1: Peterson was as a rookie, he made the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: that year as a punt return, not as a corner.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of growing pains his rookie year

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Speaker 1: as a corner. So you know, I don't disagree, Um,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm so dubious on a rookie receiver, you know,

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Speaker 1: coming in and making an instant impact. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: it just seems to be riskier than ever. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea why. And it's one of the reasons that

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Speaker 1: Cardinals even we're even posing this question because a pair

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Speaker 1: of second round picks haven't quite proven themselves as of yet.

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Speaker 1: So that's my only you know, go ahead, and you can.

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Speaker 1: You can do both. You can get a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and a cornerback in free agency. There you go, two

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Speaker 1: cannon balls, two more to come. There you go. That's

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Speaker 1: you know, no no splash, yep, there you go. You

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Speaker 1: gotta you have to change your intro intro to the primers, okay,

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Speaker 1: along along with providing a little fact check note there

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Speaker 1: that these are real players who exist on the roster.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, you know, on Cardinals Underground, brought

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Speaker 1: Aris under Cardinals. Uh, there you go. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: those would be a few amendments you make to the

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Speaker 1: price versus free agency begins. Darren's gonna get hate mail.

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Speaker 1: From Canadians this week, and Paul's gonna get hate mail

1117
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Speaker 1: from Califani Muhammad, you know, just just so everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd smoothed everything out because at the end

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Speaker 1: it was it was the day after Walter Gretzky passed away.

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Speaker 1: I was able to tell this audience about how my

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Speaker 1: wife has taken a sip out of the Stanley Cup

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Speaker 1: and an Edmonton bar at the night they won a

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup, and that she grew up in Edmonton, and

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Speaker 1: yet nothing. So you're married to a Canadian and she

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Speaker 1: is a she's an American citizen. She moved and grew

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Speaker 1: up in Edmonton. So it's a little bit different. But

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Speaker 1: I got you, okay. But I got no slack. None

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Speaker 1: of that taps the fact that did you or did

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Speaker 1: you not get an email or a letter in the

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Speaker 1: mail bag this week? Wait for it on Darryl Washington.

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Speaker 1: It was a tweet tweet. You gotta know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: know the audience, and I love my audience, and and

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Speaker 1: that was a sarcastic tweet, and I action not everybody

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Speaker 1: understands it because we've been around a long time, but

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Speaker 1: we got the quality. Daryl Washington Donovan McNabb lives in

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Speaker 1: in Chandler, and a couple other mentions. At the time,

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Speaker 1: it was good, that's good, all right. I'm glad we

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Speaker 1: got to that because I wasn't sure was that legit

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Speaker 1: or was that snark? So that it was snark these

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Speaker 1: guys there, you go, Okay, well, you know what, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be at least now. Once in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: d wash came up on our Cardinals Underground and that

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