1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: The World's of pigeon podcasts. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking, like, of all the teams 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: that have never been or won, aren't the Vikings like 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: a sneaky, sad story. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they were the Satisacs of the seventies. The 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 4: Bills took her over for them in the nineties, but 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 4: they've been and never won. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 5: Four the Vikings, Browns, Bills, Lions. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: Yep, Chargers have never won Houston, never even to the 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 4: conference championship. 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 6: You know, well, screw them. We're going to Patriots are 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 6: going for how many times, Brad? 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: This is our twelfth Super Bowl. 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: We're going to be live from media Row at the 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco, starting on Tuesday through Friday, 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: four hours a day, four hours of day Tuesday through 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: Friday next week. So of course we're still gonna have 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: to break for lunch. This piece of time delivered, I think. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 2: So I'm working that out. I'm working that out West Coast. 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna be frizz dride, but you know it's It's okay. 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: This is Patriots Unfiltered. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 7: Presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, buy a Toyota 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 7: dot com. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: Here at Jillette Stadium, and we're no less excited than 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: we were yesterday, even if we don't sound it because 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: we're a little tired. That's okay, that's all right. We're 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: we're ready to go. We all we got we all. 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 8: We need yep, yeah, yeah, yeah. 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: It's it's Paul Evan. Will he be by lighter. 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 6: He's enjoying some turkey. 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 8: You need to break. 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: Oh he just did two hours with Barth. He needs 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: a break. 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 6: He's got to smoke a cigarette afre. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Hey, now do you have to dark breaking it down? 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 9: All right? 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: So we got a lot to talk about with the Patriots, 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: and top of mind, I've got a lot of people 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: ask me what do I think about the news that 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick didn't get into the Hall of Fame. 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: I think it's ridiculous. 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: I think anything that he's done the last couple of 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: years here or after he left here, short of murdering somebody, 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: he should be in the Hall of Fame. First ballot, 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: no questions asked. I don't know what they're doing. I 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: think this fifty person room is, you know, playing games 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: with people's lives. And I'll include Robert Craft in that 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: too in pastimes. I don't know if he's going to 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: get in this year or not. I know he's eligible, 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: but not getting in, Like, what is the criteria that 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: you're saying they can't get in. It's just it's just ridiculous. 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: The whole Billpoleon thing. I don't know if I voted 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: for him. I can't remember. I mean, come on, if 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: you have somebody on your panel that can't remember who 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: he voted for, it's time to replace that person, you know. 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: Come on, Either that or he's just lying, which Pa 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: Lion would be my guest, you know, So what are 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: we doing here? I mean, and I don't even care 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: if these things are public knowledge. I don't care to 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: know who voted on who. I just want to know 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: that the people who are doing the voting are on 66 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: the up and up and are not doing anything based 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: on politics, past grievances, all that bs. As long as 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: I know that they're doing it based on their accomplishments 69 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: in pro football, then I'm good with it, but it 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like that's what they're doing, and that's what 71 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: pisses me off. Whether it's you know, people players from 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: the Dynasty, Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick, come on, come on, 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: what are we doing? And you know what, until they 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: fix it, fans should say I'm not watching your ceremony, 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to your ceremony, and then maybe they'll 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: wake up because now it's money. Now it's money, and 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: until it's money, they'll never do anything. 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: So there rant over. 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: So I have a couple of questions when I was fourteen, 80 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: and I don't know if you have any of the 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: answers to that. 82 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: I think Fred was more fired up than Bart, which 83 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 5: I think is hard to do it. 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: It's not just a Bill Belichick thing, which I think 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: is stupid. It's just overall, this thing keeps happening over 86 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: and over again. 87 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: Well, I do think that it's a very flawed process. 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 4: And you know, just I'll state I'm with Fred everything 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: you said. It's ridiculous that he wouldn't be a first 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer. If there's a definition of a 91 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famer, it should. 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 6: Be Bill Belichick. So I get that out of the way. 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: A couple of questions. Number one, how does this leak out? 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: How do we know this? 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: That's a good question, because you usually don't. 96 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 9: I think it leaked out. 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 5: My feeling is that it leaked out because they knew 98 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 5: how controversial it was going to be, and they wanted 99 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: to kind of let it leak so that next week 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 5: when the guys at act, the guys who got in 101 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: right let it pass like her maintenance could be. 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: That's a good theory, but that kind of annoyed me 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: that they leaked it out. And the second part of 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: it is, and I don't know how you feel about this, 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: I feel like the reasoning was about sort of the 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: scandals yea, more so than his personality. 107 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: That's what they say. 108 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what they're saying because no one's 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: fessing up as to who it was that didn't vote 110 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: for him. Right as far as I know, I don't. 111 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. Like the hue and cry 112 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 4: over the transparency, I don't. I couldn't care less about. 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: I don't. 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: I can't stand really the whole Hall of Fame talk, 115 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: the discussion, the debate. 116 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 6: It bores me. But this is just silly. 117 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: I mean, the guy won six Super Bowls and he's 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: not in the Hall of Fame, and I mean that's 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: just silliness. I mean, I think anybody that can rationally 120 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: look at that objectively would say that he's a Hall 121 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 4: of Fame coach, right, So there's no argument against it. 122 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 4: I just don't think it has as much to do 123 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: with the writers sticking it to them because he was 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: mean to them in press conferences, as much as it 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 4: is all the cloud around him with the scandals. 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 127 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: I think either way, I think it's just as silly. 128 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to defend one over the other. I 129 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: just a lot of people are saying, well, this is 130 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: what happens when you. 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 6: Treat people like that. I don't think that's why. 132 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 10: Well, I wouldn't put it past them, no, I mean 133 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 10: in the league, it's filled with overly competitive and petty 134 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 10: people across all ranks, and I'm sure it's filled with 135 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 10: people in that voting block and whatever their reasons might 136 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 10: have been, but it's just been resounding. I've never seen 137 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 10: so much support for Bill Belichick. I don't I remember 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 10: the last time with everyone coming out to. 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: See Like I said, it doesn't matter what happened the 140 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: last few years here or post being here. 141 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 6: No, you should be judged on the entirety of his career. 142 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: So like, yeah, it's crazy what's going on with him 143 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: after with the girlfriend and everything, and the last few 144 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: years here weren't good, but that doesn't take anything away 145 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: from what he accomplished here, and that's why he should 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: go in. I have two conspiracy theories that I know 147 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: both are wrong. One is that at least ten people 148 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 2: got together and said, you know what, without Brady, Craft 149 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: or Belichick wouldn't even be sniffing this place. So until 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: Brady gets in, we'll wait for them to get in. 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: So that was one, Yeah, that was one. 152 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: The second one was the Hall itself got to at 153 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: least ten people and said, we'd really like to get 154 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: them all in together. Let's wait for Brady to be 155 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: available and then we'll put them and then you can 156 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: vote them all in together. 157 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 6: For in other words, for money for money. 158 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, but I see that one your money, and I don't. 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: I hear both those arguments, or both those potential conspiracy theories, 160 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: but I don't think that that's like really fair. 161 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: No, it isn't. None of it's fair and you're playing 162 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: with people's lives. 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 5: And I'm also not talking about just which ballot you 164 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: get on. But now it's like, you know, like I 165 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: think Brady should have his own moment, like you know, 166 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: and like now you have to like split it up 167 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 5: by three people, and like just like thinking about it, 168 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 5: like from our perspective, Oh my goodness, Like you know, 169 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 5: like so you have our owner, our head, the coach, 170 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 5: and the greatest quarterback of all time all going into 171 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame on the same weekend, right like 172 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: that that, I just think all three of those people 173 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 5: kind of deserve their own sort of day. 174 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, regardless they're not, none of they're all going to 175 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: have to know, yes, regardless of when they get in, 176 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to share it with some other people. 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 9: But it's not gonna like no offense. 178 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 5: But like when Tom Brady gets in, it's going to 179 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: be the Tom Brady show. 180 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 9: It's not going to be about the other four people. 181 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying. 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: He's going to be the big ticket item. Yeah, I 183 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 5: would you know that. That was just I don't know 184 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 5: this whole thing. The reason why I'm big on the 185 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 5: names thing because I am is like, I think that 186 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 5: a lot of these Hall of Fame voters shouldn't have 187 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 5: a vote anymore. 188 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 9: And I think we need to No, I mean like, 189 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 9: I want to know who's voting. 190 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: I don't see. I don't agree with that because I 191 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 6: think that it's. 192 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 5: One it's really easy to hide behind, and it. 193 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 6: You're not going to you know, that's my point. 194 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 9: What am I going to do? 195 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: Now? 196 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 6: What do you do? 197 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: You hold their feet to their fire? Like what they mean, 198 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 5: how you're gonna say how public works? 199 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: Okay, but they care, but they exactly they disagree with you. 200 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 6: I don't think you should. 201 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: I have long thought that the people that are voting 202 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: for this are like just I don't think they're very compay. 203 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: I don't think they're very argument. The fifty names are online. 204 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 6: You can go out at them on Twitter. 205 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: You don't know who they voted for, but think this. 206 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 9: I don't I want to know who doesn't. 207 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: But think of it this way. We know who voted 208 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: on baseball, it doesn't matter. You can agree, disagree, or 209 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: agree with that. They don't have to tell you what 210 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: but they do in baseball they tell you why they 211 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: voted or not voted. 212 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: But we've known in baseball who votes for it and 213 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: it's no big deal. 214 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 5: So I just feel differently. I feel as though, you know, 215 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: this is a very prestigious honor. It's a very prestigious 216 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 5: hall of fame. Uh, it's not basketball who lets every 217 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: single like two time All Star into its Hall of Fame. 218 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: And it does have some strict barriers in terms of 219 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 5: who gets to get in and who doesn't. And I 220 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 5: think that it should be brought into question these people's 221 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 5: knowledge and these people's grasp of football. 222 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 9: And I mean that from a. 223 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 5: Historical perspective and in an next is a nose perspective, 224 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: And so I just don't I think there's not enough 225 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 5: people that actually are as we like to say ball knowers, 226 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 5: that are voting on these. 227 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 8: Do you really think it's football is? I think it's more. 228 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 11: They don't. 229 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: There's nobody that thinks that he didn't win. 230 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: I think other people that haven't gotten in or have 231 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: struggled to get in, ties to the fact that they 232 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: don't really understand what a defensive end in a three 233 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: four does. 234 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 9: They don't really understand what a nose tackle does. 235 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: I don't think that they fully understand, you know what 236 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: goes into all those individual things and it usually gets 237 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: voted upon as like a resume thing of he went 238 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 5: to five Pro Bowls and six all first team All 239 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: pros and this that the other thing. You know, just 240 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: read the box score, read his Pro Football reference page, 241 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 5: and that's not how every single player made an impact 242 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: of In. 243 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: All due respect, I hear what you're saying, and. 244 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 6: Uh, you know such thing as a Hall of Fame, 245 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 6: Like a guy. 246 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: Like Troy Brown is probably the smartest football player I've 247 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: ever seen, and ball knowers would recognize that. 248 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 5: But I don't think you should go in the Hall 249 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: of Fame. I don't think you should either. I wouldn't 250 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: vote for him for the Hall of Fame. 251 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 4: But there's a like, based on your criteria, no one's 252 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: qualified to vote in the Hall of Fame. 253 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if a lot of media people are 254 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 5: no one. I mean, I'm not saying a lot of 255 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 5: I don't know. 256 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: One, no one. 257 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 9: Like I think that there's a lot of would. 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: They should find like you know, sorry, but no, not 259 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 4: based on that criteria. Maybe you could get some kind 260 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: kind of a panel of coaches, right, it have to 261 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: be coaches, But I don't think they're qualified because they're 262 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: not as up to speed on what's going on in 263 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: the game currently. 264 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 5: Right well, at least liked them to have be able 265 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 5: to explain better. We can all read their Pro Football 266 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: Reference page and look at their stats and look at 267 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: their career accolades and decide whether this guy's had you know, 268 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: enough yards, enough receptions, enough touchdowns to be a Hall 269 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: of Fame wide receiver. Everybody can do that. 270 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: I kind of like the criteria they have now if 271 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: they stuck to it, which is, how did they compare 272 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: to other players that they're positioned in their era. 273 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 5: I just don't think that. I don't think they do 274 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 5: a good job. I just think it's it's a flawed process. 275 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 9: They didn't do a good. 276 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: Job, you know, last year, like that class was ridiculous, 277 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 5: Like Luke Eakley didn't make the Hall of Fame, Adam 278 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: Vitti didn't make the Hall of Fame. Trell Owens they 279 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: kept out for three years because of some personal vandetta 280 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: against him. 281 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 9: Just kind of like this thing with Bill and I think. 282 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: Clear ad him in my ran. If he's not in 283 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: this year, that's another This isn't. 284 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 9: Just my point is that this is not just a 285 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 9: one time thing. 286 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: I think it's a very flawed process. They continue to 287 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 5: get this wrong and they've lost the trust they've lost. 288 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: That's what I don't care about how in any sport, right, 289 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: I don't. I just Fred and I like did far 290 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: too many people in halls of fame period in all sports. 291 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 4: And it's not the way I would do it. It's 292 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: a very flawed process. 293 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: Don't watch, don't go. Even if you're not a Patriots fan. 294 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: Today it was Bill Belichick. Tomorrow it could be your 295 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: player or huge or owner. So send the message. Until 296 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: it affects them in the pocket, nothing will change I. 297 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 5: Feel, I mean, I feel this way, like I mentioned, like, 298 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 5: it's not just Patriots. Oh no, they left spots open 299 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,239 Speaker 5: last year, and they left one of the best linebackers 300 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: of his year, maybe the best linebacker of his ear, 301 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: off the ballot. 302 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: But that makes no sense it and I hear you 303 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: that's but that's debatable, right. 304 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 9: I don't think it's. 305 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 5: Really with Belichick, but it is. It is debatable candidate, 306 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 5: not Bill Belichick. But I do not I don't think 307 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 5: that it's very debatable, right, And you. 308 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 6: Said in your opinion and your opinion that's and anybody 309 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 6: that's watched. 310 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: Getting like, I can't, you can't, and and that's fine, Eavan, 311 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: but like and you should stick to your guns. But 312 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that we should burn the house down 313 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: because of differing opinions. 314 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 9: Okay, I mean I think you guys are misunderstanding what 315 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 9: I'm saying. 316 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 6: No, no, you're saying that you're the only one who 317 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 6: knows enough to know that. 318 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 9: I didn't say that. I didn't say that. 319 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 6: It's a very I think Fred just put it perfectly. 320 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: It's a very subjective thing. 321 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 9: Let's move. I didn't say that, no words in my mouth. 322 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no. But you are saying that you believe it's 323 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: it's a no brainer. 324 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 6: You said, it's not debatable. That's what you said. It's 325 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 6: not debatable. 326 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 9: It's it's very hard to make a case. 327 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: He's not just because with you on, Luke doesn't mean 328 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: Mike cast do or maybe I don't agree with what 329 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: Mike does, like I. 330 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: Think No, I think these things are actually more black 331 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 5: and white than you guys do. 332 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 9: Okay, I think it's a yes or no, and I 333 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 9: think that. 334 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: But I would have a very small hall. 335 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: That's but I think that part of the issue with 336 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: this whole thing. And you know, some people put this 337 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 5: out there last night. It's like there's five candidates for 338 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: three spots and you put three on your ballot. 339 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 9: That's credit. 340 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: It's like it's now now, like it was. 341 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: A year, and I'm just if there was a year 342 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: that was on the ballot, Curtis Martin, Jerry Rice, you know, 343 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: Dan Marino, name name, the illuminatory course should be twenty 344 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: in that class. 345 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: If those people happen to be on the. 346 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: Same That's sort of what I think is a better 347 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 5: way of trying to say what I'm trying to say. 348 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: Guys that are Hall of Fame caliber players, it's are 349 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: they or are they not? It's yes or no, And 350 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 5: we can debate whether or not they are or not 351 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 5: based on off the credit, you know, our personal feelings. 352 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: But my point is is like this should not be 353 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 5: a situation where like it's so technical about how exactly 354 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: it comes. 355 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 9: Did you ruin it? We all think he's a Hall 356 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 9: of Famer, Yes, he should be in the Hall of Fame. 357 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: No, I agree with that way of doing it, like 358 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: it should be if you have to think about it. 359 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: No, the did you guys see the Mike Sando tweet 360 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: last night about what may have happened. 361 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: With the vote. 362 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 9: That's what i'm. 363 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 6: That's what i'm and that's that's what made me think 364 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 6: of it. 365 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: Now, I'm totally with you, but it was and I 366 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: want to call it up because I want to give 367 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: There's no way I could possibly explain it, okay, you know, 368 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: maybe for some, but not for all, because obviously eleven 369 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: or more had to vote not not put him on 370 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: their ballot. 371 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: Right because he needed forty. 372 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: And this is according to Mike Sydy says, in my opinion, 373 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: I think some voters just think about all the finalists 374 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: should get in and then favorite candidates who have been 375 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: eating longer when forced against their will to choose by 376 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: a system that is trying to push them in another direction. 377 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 6: That is not me. 378 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: I believe in picking the best candidates every year, and 379 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: if some worthy but lesser guys fall by the wayside, 380 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: that's the way it goes. 381 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 6: And I want to get to how can I find this? Okay, 382 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: here it is. 383 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: I'm a Hall of Fame voter who saw his sort 384 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: of hypothetical as to how this may have happened. I'm 385 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame voter who saw Belichick as a 386 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: slam dunk. I don't know anything about the voting results, 387 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 4: but if this is true, and we'll find out officially 388 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: next week, the question is how good this happen? Before 389 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: I list possibilities, understand this. Belichick, Craft, Craig Anderson in 390 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 4: Greenwood are competing for the one to three spots as Evan. 391 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 4: This is why when Evan started down this road, I 392 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: totally understand where he's coming from. And this is separate 393 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: from the fifteen modern era finalists, which obviously Adam Vinteri is. 394 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: Among fifty voters each pick three of the five between 395 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: one to three make it forty plus votes needed for 396 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: anyone besides the top vote get. 397 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 6: Or to make it. It's a zero sum game. 398 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: Huge change made in twenty twenty five, two hundred and 399 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 4: fifty total votes to go around for five candidates with 400 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: a high bar for clearance. Now we count the potential 401 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: ways Belichick might get fewer than forty votes, even when 402 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: forty plus on the committee think he's a Hall of Famer. 403 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: Let's say four or five voters who were strong advocates, 404 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: were specific senior players, figured Belichick was going to make 405 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: it in regardless, so they funneled voters to competing candidates 406 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: in hopes of boosting them over the forty vote threshold. 407 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: Let's say a few voters prioritize senior players in their 408 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: thinking that Belichick will be back in the room next year, 409 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 4: while players on the ballot this year might disappear into 410 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: the senior pool forever. Let's say a few voters found 411 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 4: Spygate cheating disqualifying. Let's say a few voters protested the 412 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 4: new rules making coaches elible one year after retiring instead 413 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: of five years after retiring. Whatever the case, I would 414 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: see this as a repeat mudiation of the new voting 415 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: rules implemented for twenty twenty five, not of Belichick or 416 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: any candidate not making it. There will be changes in 417 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 4: this process, I predict. So I would just say that 418 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: whole long confliction, and Mike Sando is as thorough as 419 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: they come when it comes to this kind of stuff. 420 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: This is not a shot at Mike Sando. Matter of fact, 421 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: I applaud him because I think this is a very 422 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: plausible thing. Does that sound like any kind of a 423 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: rational way to decide? Evan Lazarre is a Hall of Famer, 424 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: Mike Dessau is not. Now that's absurd, That's absolutely absurd, 425 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: because you think that Bill's going to get in any way, 426 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: but the senior guy is probably going to fall into 427 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: the pool next year and he'll go by the wayside. 428 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna or I'm going to try to make 429 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: sure that I bump up that senior guy with extra 430 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: votes because Bill's getting in any way. Like they should 431 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: have to vote for who they think is a Hall 432 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: of Famer and there should be no cap This whole 433 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: one to three of these guys, like Evan just said. 434 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 6: Is absurd. 435 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 9: And I think that that's what's this. It's like. 436 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 5: It's it's like an electoral college situation where you're not. 437 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 9: Winning, you know what I mean. 438 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 5: And it's like, I don't know, this is a hall 439 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: of fame. It's a yes or no question. Is he 440 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer or is he not? And like 441 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: I said, we can argue or debate if he is 442 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: or isn't not Bill, but like other people, but it's 443 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 5: it should be black and white. It shouldn't have to 444 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 5: be all this other nonsense that goes into it. And 445 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 5: you know, I stand by what I said. I I 446 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: just feel as though that they get this so wrong 447 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 5: so many times that now I'm like questioning the entire 448 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 5: voting body and like questioning whether or not some of 449 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: these people should be losing their vote. 450 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: Some people just don't be able to They don't know 451 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: what to do with power. And this is power that 452 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: these people have. They have power over people's lives and 453 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: they just don't know how to handle it. 454 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: If they were getting it right, I wouldn't be sitting 455 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 5: here saying, you know, questioning their like you know, knowledge 456 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 5: or ability or whatever to vote on it. But every 457 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 5: single year there's something crazy that happens that you're like, 458 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 5: what do you mean, Like, what are you guys doing? 459 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 10: Yeah, and this is the biggest one though, But I 460 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 10: still were you guys surprised? 461 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 8: Like I mean, I think we all kind of talked 462 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 8: about potentially being an. 463 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: Issue every year that Craft doesn't get out of surprised. 464 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: And I'm surprised at this as well. 465 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: If if Craft and Belichick don't meet the criteria. 466 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 8: For who does. 467 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 468 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, But to your point, Mike, I remember when because 469 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: we talked about came out and I went back and forth. 470 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 6: And I said I could see it. Yeah, but I 471 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 6: could see it because of the pettiness. 472 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 8: Yeah right, and that might. 473 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 10: Driving a guy of Bill Belichick, who is, let's face it, 474 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 10: polarizing across the league. And I'm sure there are plenty 475 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 10: of people in that committee that have very strong feelings 476 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 10: both ways towards him, that it took something like this 477 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 10: to really shine the light. I've never seen an outpouring 478 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 10: like this of people being like this is absolutely ridiculous, 479 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 10: Like this guy is, by most accounts of the greatest 480 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 10: coach of all time, certainly most accomplished head coach. 481 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 8: But this might be what it takes. 482 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 12: I was. 483 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: I was surprised last night when I saw that. To 484 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: answer the question, I was even though I. 485 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 13: Thought there was a chance it could happen, but I 486 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 13: didn't really think because these kinds of things I always think, 487 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 13: and I kind of think like how I would feel, 488 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 13: and I'd be like, I'll be damned if I'm going 489 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 13: to let them say that I let any kind. 490 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: Of personal bias get into this. I'm going to go 491 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: out of my way to make sure I vote for him, 492 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's kind of what 493 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: I thought would end up happening. And you know, maybe 494 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: they maybe ten or twelve of them had to hold 495 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 4: their nose to vote for him. 496 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: But I figured, yeah, he would, he would walk walk in. 497 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 6: I really did. 498 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 5: I also think that, you know the whole, Oh, we're 499 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 5: gonna keep them off this year as punishment, but next 500 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 5: year he's a Hall of Famer, right like that, Now, 501 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: now you're just being petty. And then on top of it, 502 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 5: like he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer 503 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 5: and you just took that from him. 504 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: That is not you to be the arbiter of punishment, 505 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: right you know, So. 506 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 5: If you're gonna put him in next year, that makes 507 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 5: it even worse because like now, and you're also taking 508 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 5: a spot from somebody that might be worthy next year 509 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 5: because he goes back into the coaches committee. 510 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 6: That's a good point too. 511 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 9: And so all these. 512 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 5: Other coaches that are still going to be waiting, they 513 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 5: get bumped again for another year because Bill still isn't in. 514 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 8: And does Bill if he goes in next year, does 515 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 8: he say, you know what, I'm not coming this summer. 516 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 8: I'm not going to do a speech here. 517 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 6: Because to be there the whole, like. 518 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: These all these varying criteria, to me, the problem just 519 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: Fred's has it perfect If if you have thirty guys 520 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: that are no brain or Hall of famers all at once. 521 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 6: They all should go in at once. If you have none, 522 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 6: the next year you have none. 523 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: Like this shouldn't be like you need to have five 524 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: to seven modern era finalists and one to three of 525 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: the coach, contributor whatever senior categories. Like what if the 526 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 4: senior guy is just a guy who's a no brainer 527 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer and somehow just fell through the cracks, 528 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: you know, and then the coach is Bill Belichick and 529 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: the contributor is Robert Kraft, Like, so we have three 530 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 4: locks for the Hall of Fame. 531 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 6: They can't go in because you can't have them all. 532 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 6: Like that's dominant. 533 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: It's stupid, you know what, Damn you because we should 534 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: be talking Super Bowl and the Patriots and now you 535 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: got us talking about this Craft's arguing with each other. 536 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: We're no, it's the whole that was like a picky 537 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: owing thing. The whole process is so flawed. It's just 538 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: and I think it's like that for all the sports. 539 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 4: Jeff Kent in the Baseball Hall of Fame. 540 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 10: But Devn's point, I mean, Torell Owens was the last 541 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 10: big player to kind of get hosed and to go 542 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 10: through this drama with the Hall of Fame and now 543 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 10: with Bill doing it hopefully that I mean, I just 544 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 10: I've never seen anything like it. 545 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 8: That was just everything all of football Twitter last night. 546 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 6: YE had nothing. 547 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 4: I had to put my phone down. I was like, 548 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to read about this anymore, and like. 549 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 5: Send any tweets regret. 550 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 9: I got back to the film. 551 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 8: I thought, I thought. I was like, is this is 552 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 8: this overwhelming? 553 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 5: Or now? 554 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 10: Then next al Fourier tweeted like, is there a way 555 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 10: I can adjust my algorithm to stop seeing all the outpours? 556 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 5: I mean, even Mike Florio is on his side, like 557 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 5: you know, like even people that we know I've had 558 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 5: bones to pick with him in the past, you know, 559 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: players like you know, I saw Jonas Gray, who all 560 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: the reason in the world to not like Bill, even 561 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: he said, what the heck are we doing? 562 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 9: You know, like it just everybody. It was everybody. 563 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what's happening. 564 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 8: That's what's happened. So who's gonna get in. 565 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be nothings leaked out about vinetaria craft, 566 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: So maybe that's good. 567 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 568 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 6: I find it weird that that leaked out. 569 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 14: I do. 570 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 8: I like Evan Singer though. 571 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 6: That's a goodd that's gonna be on Thursday night next week. 572 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 9: And I think I think they knew the pr was 573 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 9: going to be so. 574 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 10: Bad it would have overshadowed everything. And that's all of 575 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 10: NFL Honors Nights. 576 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 8: NFL Honors MVP might be Drake Mays the MVP, but 577 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 8: we're going to spend the next forty minutes talking about 578 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 8: how Bill Elichick I got something. 579 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: Telling you folks, don't support the sham, don't do it, 580 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: don't do it? All right, what do we got Patriots wise? 581 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: This whole thing with with Drake May and his shoulder 582 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, you know, uh, it. 583 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 10: Might be a little it might be a little rusty 584 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 10: and little banged ups. Hoping he gets better. 585 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. 586 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 8: It seems it seems like it's kind. 587 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 10: Of sucking the air out of the room, this story 588 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 10: right now, where it's like, you know, I get it, 589 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 10: he might be hurt, but it's all signs sound like 590 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 10: he's gonna play, and he doesn't seem like he came 591 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 10: out of the game. And it wouldn't be a super 592 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 10: Bowl if our quarterback wasn't question, just like the Brady 593 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 10: ankle thing from Super Bowl forty two when he got 594 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 10: hurt against the Chargers and you know, was then. 595 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 8: In a boot, and so this is he's heard thirty six. 596 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty six was ankle. 597 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was in a boot in right shoulder. 598 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 9: Every week. 599 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 5: I think, you know, there's a lot of it's a 600 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: combination of you know, Doc Chow and all these people 601 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: saying that they saw something on the thing on the video, 602 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 5: and then also I think, you know he hasn't played 603 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 5: well yeah, and you know he's missing throws that. 604 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 8: This is why he's just he's been hurt. Obviously, this 605 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 8: is what it is. 606 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 9: But I think that that's pace of it, right. 607 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: I not to like absolve it, but like I think 608 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 5: that you know, there's throws on film that he's made 609 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 5: all year long that he's not making in the playoffs, 610 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 5: and you're just kind of like, what's going on here, 611 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 5: and especially in this last game against the Broncos. And 612 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 5: I think now all of a sudden, you know, he's 613 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 5: missing short like guy that has a great arm is 614 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: it can't get the ball there all of a sudden, 615 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: So people are wondering, you know what what's going on? 616 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: Hard to judge anything from that second half on Sunday. 617 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I know that when he ran for 618 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: that first down, he pumped his right arm. 619 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 9: Fist, so he stiffed armed the guy. 620 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: I think with today's therapy and all that stuff, he'll 621 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: be ready to go. 622 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 10: I'm not worry three too. I mean, you guys remember 623 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 10: getting hurt at twenty three. I was like, oh, I 624 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 10: feel crappy for a day and a half. 625 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 3: Not like I'd be profen tonight, I'd be playing tomorrow. 626 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 10: Right right now, It's like I'm gonna be feeling like 627 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 10: crap for the next week. 628 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 629 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: When he said on the radio yesterday with EEI I 630 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: thought was interesting, which was more he was talking less 631 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 5: about like structural damage and more about. 632 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 9: Like fatigue, wearing like like arm fatigue. 633 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: He said, he's been throwing, you know, going back to 634 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 5: training camp thirty thirty five weeks now, and that's a 635 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 5: lot longer than he normally ever has or ever would. 636 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: You have to put him on a pitch count? 637 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I do wonder about that a little bit, 638 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 5: but especially the practices here this week, Like, is really 639 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 5: any reason for him to go out there and throw 640 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: thirty five times in tomorrow's practice, Like maybe that would 641 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: take it a little easy. 642 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: So is this the first practice of the week. 643 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 10: No, no practice today, doing a lot of media stuff. 644 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 10: We've seen, right the guy's walking through the tunnel. We 645 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 10: saw that, you know, the set and everything they're getting 646 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 10: ready to to. 647 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 648 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: So NBC is in the house today and they're getting 649 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: all their stuff ready for the game because they're the 650 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: network doing the game, and so they get all the 651 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, Ramandre Stevenson, you know, and all that stuff, 652 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: and they look at the camp. They have their uniforms 653 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 2: with the Super Bowl patch. So they had to redo 654 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: all the stuff that they had during the season. 655 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 10: I like the patch patches got a little flavored now 656 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 10: to it. It's yeah, for a while it was just 657 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 10: the silver numbers. 658 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 659 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 8: Like I like when they go back to they all. 660 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 10: Had a little bit of design and in the city 661 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 10: and remember that. 662 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 9: Miami. 663 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: I guess they were like, it's a palm tree. 664 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, I don't know. 665 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: It's not California enough for you. 666 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 6: We have to be like Arnold California, like California. 667 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 9: Do you understand what I'm saying? Right, it looks kind 668 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 9: of like Hawaii Fi or something. 669 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: Tropical. 670 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think if San Francisco is even if 671 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: it was l A, I would think it would be 672 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 4: more appropriate than for San Francisco. 673 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 9: As you know, as you know, mister. 674 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So Mike has promised to guide me to the 675 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: best in and out burger. 676 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 8: I find there's an our local. 677 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 10: Uh, it's not gonna be like me and have been 678 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 10: trudging through the desert of Las Vegas to uh we 679 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 10: were like, but ye looking forward to getting some maybe 680 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 10: some Mexican food out there. 681 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 8: They got real good Mexican food in California. 682 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 9: To Chinatown, maybe northern California. 683 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think even there, I think Okay, I don't know. 684 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: I know it is more you know, it. 685 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 8: Sneaks out afterwards. There's no sneaking about it. 686 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 5: I just know in San Francisco, Chinatown's like like very 687 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: big there. 688 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as well, you. 689 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 10: Go to Gia Deli get some chocolate, okay, Deuce, Marcus 690 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 10: cool Marcus. 691 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little concerned about the traffic. I'm hearing 692 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: all this. So if you have to go forty. 693 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: Miles, you need two hours and a boy, oh. 694 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 8: Boy, that'll be fun. Traffic in California. 695 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, we promised we wouldn't complain about so 696 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: we're not gonna We're not. 697 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 6: We're not even there yet. We're broke our own rule. 698 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: We're not gonna do that. No, I just back to 699 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: the Mexican food. 700 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 6: No. 701 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 10: I just the weather's killing me right now with this 702 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 10: projected Sunday weather. Of you know, I know, we're trying to. 703 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 8: Get out and maybe there's a rally. 704 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 6: The weather here. 705 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 10: You're out and it's like there might be a no 706 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 10: o'easter coming back in, and that's just kind of you 707 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 10: start to get angry. 708 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: Can you just get the snow stop it? 709 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 8: I know, I know, but the. 710 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: City right now is a mess. So I can't imagine 711 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 5: if we get hitt of another storm. 712 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 9: Right, I mean, there's like. 713 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 5: Where do you put it because the roads are so narrow, 714 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: and there's so many little side streets and half of 715 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 5: them aren't plowed, and it's now it's just like getting 716 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 5: padded down by the cars going over it. 717 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 9: And it's a mess. It's a mess. There's a car 718 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 9: stuck in every corner like you. 719 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, buried? 720 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 9: Yeah? Not good? 721 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: Not good? All right? 722 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast 723 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com. 724 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: Is the email address? 725 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: Anything else we need to go over before we start 726 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: opening it up to everybody. 727 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 8: No immediate news. I mean, and they will practice tomorrow 728 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 8: and Friday, so he'll get a couple of days. 729 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 5: I have an injury report and estimated don't practice today, 730 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 5: but they have to give an estimated injury report. So technically, 731 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: if there's something going on with Drake May then he 732 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: would be on. 733 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 9: He doesn't have to be. 734 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: No, it's estimated. 735 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 5: Well he should be if there's something going on, he 736 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 5: should be based off the rules, Does he have to 737 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: be No, I don't. 738 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the rules for estimations. 739 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: It was like, it's isn't it based on the last 740 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: time that he practiced or played? 741 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 5: No, it's based off of if they were to have 742 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 5: practice today, would he have participated in the practice. 743 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: Based on the last time they practiced or played? Right? 744 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 15: No? 745 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, but if he has an injury, then he today. 746 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 6: I mean, you understand it, Okay, all right? I mean 747 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 6: I don't. 748 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: I don't expect him to be on any injury reports 749 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: over the next two weeks. I don't expect to see him. 750 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: But Devan's right, if he got hurt in the game 751 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 4: or aggravated something that he was already dealing with in 752 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: the game, then. 753 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 6: By the letter of the law, he would be on 754 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 6: the injury report. 755 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think it's significant enough to 756 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: land him on the injury report, even if there was 757 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: something that happened, all right, I got In other words, 758 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be missing any snaps, you know, 759 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: so I think you can get away with it, get 760 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: around it whatever, even maybe he's listed as a full participant, yeah, 761 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: you know, but I don't know. 762 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: Doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that plays 763 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: games with this, you know, let him think that he's 764 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: more hurt than he is. I don't think that he 765 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: has the time, no, but maybe maybe he does. 766 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 767 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 9: Maybe today might not be the day for it. 768 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 5: But the only thing I was potentially thinking was maybe 769 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: like a pitch count and practice, you know, just to 770 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 5: take it easy, a little bit on the arm. 771 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 9: They should during the bye week. That was the only thing. 772 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 6: If he's banged up, absolutely, if he's fine, then no, 773 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 6: like that that would And I don't have any idea 774 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 6: either way. 775 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 9: The only reason why I. 776 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 5: Said, because of what he said on the radio yesterday, 777 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 5: which is that this is a lot longer football season 778 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 5: than he's ever played. 779 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 6: Right, you know, go to the twenty first game. 780 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 5: Right, and he's you know, whether it was college or 781 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 5: last year, he was not playing twenty one games of 782 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 5: NFL football, you know. So it's just a lot he's 783 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 5: been throwing, you know? Is it just in terms of me? 784 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 10: They track everything like how much are you run? How 785 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 10: many steps you take in practice? I would imagine how 786 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 10: many throws you take is also something that they measure 787 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 10: and are cognizant of not overdoing it. 788 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: Yep. 789 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the phones. We'll start with Alex 790 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: in San Diego. What's up, Alex? 791 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 16: I think, guys, I have to agree with everything with 792 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 16: this whole Belichick thing. I think it's absolutely absurd and 793 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 16: as one of you said, it's straight ignorance. But anyway, 794 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 16: in a lighter note, we're back, do congrats on finally 795 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 16: making it. 796 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 8: It was a fun Did you have fun? 797 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 11: You having fun? 798 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 16: What's up? 799 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 8: Do you have fun? Are you having fun? 800 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 17: Oh? 801 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 16: Of course of course. But really the reason I called 802 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 16: in I just wanted to keep your guys opinion on 803 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 16: really what's going on here with Will Campbell. I really 804 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 16: don't like excuses. 805 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 15: Maybe he's hurt. 806 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 16: Let's just say, for example, he's not, though he wasn't 807 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 16: hurt against Miles Garrett and Grant. Miles Garrett had an 808 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 16: all time season, but Khalil Mack, Will Andrews and Nick Benito, like, 809 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 16: he didn't look good. And I don't know if this 810 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 16: is a strengthening that over time maybe he can get 811 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 16: stronger and improve on. But I just believed with the 812 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 16: intangibles for someone that you picked at number four, like, 813 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 16: I have hope for this. But granted, I don't think 814 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 16: Seattle has one of those elite guys as well. But 815 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 16: you know, I'm still hopeful here. But you know, Drake 816 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 16: May just really hasn't looked settled in the pocket all 817 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 16: playoffs here, and I think it's really affected some of 818 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 16: these throws that he's just made all year long. 819 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 8: But yeah, I'll take it off the air, Okay, Yeah, 820 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 8: it's a fair question. 821 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 5: I would just push back a little bit on the 822 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 5: Beanino side of it, Like outside of the cup block, 823 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 5: he was fine against Nick Banino in the game on Sunday. 824 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 5: I didn't have him with any pressures allowed the Banino 825 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 5: outside of the cup block. So that's an ugly rep 826 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 5: there's no there's no running from that. But was that 827 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 5: like a true wasn't a one on one lot like 828 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: he tried to cut him and he missed, you know, 829 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 5: like it's not like a situation where he got you know, 830 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 5: blown by like we have seen a little bit. So 831 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: I thought he was better in this game. But the 832 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 5: long term question of whether or not he's a left 833 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 5: tackle I think remains. 834 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 9: But you know, he's he's a rookie. 835 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 5: It's his first year going up against really highly elite 836 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 5: skilled rushers like you just mentioned Will Anderson and Khalil 837 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: Maccleil Maxicin. Well, I don't know anymore, but he should 838 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 5: be in the Hall of Fame someday. And Will Anderson 839 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 5: is currently one of the best players in the league. 840 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 5: So you're talking about the elite of the elite guys 841 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 5: giving him problem. 842 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 10: With the body types, they give him problems too, And yeah, 843 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 10: it's hard. I just I wonder what the approaches this 844 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 10: offseason with the offensive line because it's just I think 845 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 10: almost every spot has questions. Morgan Moses is old, Mike 846 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 10: One is going to make a ton of money, Garret 847 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 10: Bradberry is also a little bit older. 848 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 8: Jared Wilson. 849 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 10: People talk about him maybe going to center, Will Campbell 850 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 10: talk about him maybe going a left guard. I just 851 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 10: think the thing that hangs over it that I don't 852 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 10: want to subscribe to is that if by acknowledging he 853 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 10: might have to move to guard, that you blew the pick, 854 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 10: you know, and and yeah, maybe you wish that you 855 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 10: had gotten more out of the fourth overall pick, But 856 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 10: you know, if Will Campbell ultimately ends up being a 857 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 10: really good guard, I'm not gonna sit here in lament like, well, 858 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 10: they drafted a guard fourth overall. 859 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 8: If it works out, it works out. 860 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 10: But I think that's what's hanging over this whole conversation 861 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 10: is that people don't want to get into that nitty 862 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 10: gritty because they feel. 863 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 8: Like it's a bust. He's a bust if he ends 864 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 8: up at left guard, right. 865 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 5: I would also say, if he ends up moving in 866 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 5: guard in the future, but they win a Super Bowl 867 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: with him at left tackle, yeah right, Yeah, I don't know, right, 868 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 5: So you know, isn't. 869 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 10: That the funny thing though, of like how much time 870 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 10: we spend talking about like needing a number one or 871 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 10: k needing depth or you know, k needing x Y 872 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 10: or z or this is a flaw and then one 873 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 10: year it all just kind of lines up. And that's 874 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 10: why if I was like a Jets fan or a 875 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 10: Bills fan, I'm like, how has this never happened for 876 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 10: us in like fifty years? Never once did we just 877 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 10: happen to kind of like get a favorable draw, had 878 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 10: a good injury luck, and despite perceived roster weaknesses, we 879 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 10: were able to make it. 880 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: Why Why did the Patriots. 881 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 8: Get to do this again? 882 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 6: It's the number one thing that I push back on 883 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 6: after the Super Bowl every year when whoever wins. 884 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 8: Right, that's what you need, that's what you have to do. 885 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 4: You know, last year it was all about you have 886 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 4: to like dominate on the line, like both sides of 887 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 4: the line. Philadelphia dominated, So that's the only way you 888 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: can do it. And I just think there's a lot 889 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: of different ways to do it. And every year it 890 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 4: seems like there's a difference in the in the way 891 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 4: the teams are structured. 892 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 5: And you know, now it's all interior defensive line, right, 893 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: you know, because the Patriots have Barboard Williams and the 894 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 5: Seahawks have Murphy and and you know there are guys 895 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 5: Leonard Williams, so like now everybody's like saying, oh, got 896 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: to have a line. 897 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 4: We've had years where, you know, don't you don't need 898 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: any running back, and then there's been years like last 899 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 4: year you have to have the stud running like it 900 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 4: just there's no one way to do it. There's a 901 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 4: lot of different ways to make good football teams and 902 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 4: they're not all built the same way. 903 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 6: And let's face it, Mike, you kind of hit on something. 904 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: You didn't use the. 905 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 4: Word, but I'll use it for you, is there's a 906 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 4: lot of luck involved too. You know, Buffalo is one 907 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 4: of those teams, like you're saying, how did that not 908 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 4: ever happen for us? So they had all these really 909 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 4: really good teams and then they would have to go 910 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 4: and play Mahomes when they were really really good and 911 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: they fell short. They couldn't have been a really really 912 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 4: good team this year when they wouldn't have had to 913 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: face them. No, they would kind of average at best 914 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: this year, and they had a road where the Patriots 915 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: took the division from them and they had to go 916 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 4: on the road and they fell short. Yeah, you know 917 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: without Mahomes that like it's just, yeah, one of those 918 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: luck of the drawer, right. 919 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 8: I know your point. There wasn't a lot of AFC 920 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 8: teams getting lucky when Tom Brady was years you know, like. 921 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 4: It was, you you know, like people would say, like 922 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 4: the Colts can't win because they're too soft, they're for nests, 923 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 4: and then they won, you know, with the same style. 924 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 4: You know, but the road was a little different that 925 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 4: year the Patriots. The Patriots were wounded. They they weren't 926 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 4: as good offensively as they had been in the past. 927 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: When they let the receivers go and six they were 928 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 4: able to play the game at home instead of on 929 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: the road in the snowstorm. They were not lucky. They 930 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 4: felt things fell into place for them. 931 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 10: And I will say this though, having said all that, 932 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 10: there's a good chance we're going to get to any 933 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 10: of the Super Bowl and we're going to be revisiting 934 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 10: all the flaws that we pointed out on this team 935 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 10: going into the season. 936 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 8: During the season, you know, those things could all come 937 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 8: up in the Super Bowl and we come out. 938 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 10: And we say the offensive line has got to be better, 939 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 10: or they really need a dude on the outside. 940 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 8: And that's the case. 941 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: You're saying it now. 942 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm starting to come around on the dude on 943 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 5: the outside thing. I think that the passing game and 944 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 5: the playoffs you've seen, you know, when Diggs gets doubled 945 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: on it on the inside on third down, there's just 946 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: not a lot going on elsewhere. 947 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 6: I was thinking the defensive team in the outside. 948 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 5: Like I you know that I think is you know, 949 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 5: then you're asking Drake made to like basically they were 950 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 5: on Sunday they were asking Kaysehwan Boody to win contest 951 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 5: catches against Patrick Surtan, which is like, you know, like 952 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's really how you want to 953 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 5: live and that's how you get, you know, the performance 954 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 5: that they had passing Lise, it wouldn't surprise me if 955 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 5: you know a year from now, two years from now, 956 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 5: you know, Wilson and Campbell both bump over to the 957 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 5: right one spot. But I think when you do that, 958 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 5: like who's playing left tackle? And where are you getting 959 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 5: that left tackle? From picking thirty second in the draft. 960 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 10: Yeah, and you already have people saying you got a draft. 961 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 10: I mean I've seen a couple of mock drafts with 962 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 10: them taking a right tackle and you know, Sam Morgan Moses. 963 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 10: So you know, are you really going to go into 964 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 10: this offseason saying nice year from Will, but we're gonna 965 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 10: need to get two tackles this year. 966 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 9: I think you have to give them a lot. 967 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 4: Yes, it will be two years, not one, if it 968 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 4: happens at all. Yeah, he might solidify it. 969 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Francisco is a North Carol. Oh I hit the 970 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: wrong button. Sorry, Francisco, call back my bad. Uh, Sam's 971 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: in North Carolina. 972 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 8: What's up, Sam, Sam? 973 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 15: I have pretty quick thing. 974 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 975 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 15: The thing is the absolute ridiculous flight. There could never 976 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 15: be another first male head coach. Like if he's not 977 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 15: first beel head coach, there can never be another too, 978 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 15: Like if if we don't like drafted eckle to developing whatever, 979 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 15: Will kempbll is gonna be the left tackle for the 980 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 15: foreseeable future. I don't think there's any question. And when 981 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 15: did Seattle become this some beautiful force? Like the way 982 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 15: they're talking now on TV and things, just like the 983 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 15: Patriots have no shot. Like I know Seattle is a 984 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 15: good team, but we're a good thing too. I just 985 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 15: don't see him dominating the game the way that everybody's seeing. 986 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 15: And Okay, all right in the Super Bowl. 987 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: Thanks Sam. 988 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we I mean we really haven't dove too deep 989 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: yet into Seattle in the specific matchups and all that, 990 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: but you know, early looks like, of course the Patriots 991 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 2: have a chance, you know, but Seattle's a good team. 992 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 2: They emerged from the NFC, which a lot of people 993 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 2: believe you had the best teams in football this year. 994 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's debatable. I'd like to know 995 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: what was the AFC record versus NFC this. 996 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 3: Year in games played? We know that if he should 997 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 3: be easy to look up, right, I. 998 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 4: Don't know, but I don't think that really is an 999 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 4: indication of the strength of the com. 1000 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 2: I remember the Charges played. Was it the forty nine 1001 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: ers and beat them pretty handily? Or what was it 1002 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: this year? 1003 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 9: The forty nine ers beat the Chargers. 1004 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: Jacksonville belt Oh, jackson Jacksonville beat the forty nine ers. 1005 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I don't. 1006 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 10: Know, Yeah yeah, I mean, don't you feel like you've 1007 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 10: seen enough Super Bowls to know that, like you think 1008 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 10: you know what's going to happen when these games. 1009 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 8: Get a little weird. 1010 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 1011 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 10: I just I have confidence in the Patriots defense. You know, 1012 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 10: it's a huge challenge in Seattle's got a lot of talent. 1013 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 10: I think they are just across the board just an excellent, 1014 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 10: solid football team. 1015 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 3: So are we. 1016 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 10: I Just my biggest wish for the game at this 1017 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 10: point is that we see the Patriots offense that we 1018 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 10: watched for the majority of the season and that they 1019 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 10: can get back into that mode of you know, seeing 1020 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 10: Drake make the plays that made him an MVP candidate 1021 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 10: in front of a worldwide audience to oh you know, 1022 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 10: yes it was a struggle through three playoff games, but 1023 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 10: he got to the super Bowl and shows us why 1024 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 10: he's here, right. 1025 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my I mean, that's the game to me. 1026 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 5: Like if they if they can't, if they play offense 1027 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 5: the way they've been playing offense, they're gonna lose. 1028 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 14: Yep. 1029 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 5: So they have to find a way again discore some 1030 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: points because they're not going to hold Seattle to seven points. 1031 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 4: That's not happening seven. Yeah, But like what if they 1032 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 4: play defense the way they've been playing defense. 1033 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 3: I think if they play he is still gonna need 1034 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 3: to score. 1035 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 9: I think they still get to twenty. 1036 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say seventeen or twenty for the Seattle 1037 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 5: gets to seventeen or twenty. 1038 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 9: You know, I think, but. 1039 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 6: Would that I think that'd be enough to win. 1040 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 3: Could be if the defense plays lights out. 1041 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 5: I could see like if if to me, like the 1042 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: most likely Patriots score victories like twenty three to twenty, 1043 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 5: you know, a game that has some scoring but is 1044 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 5: you know, low twenties. 1045 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 8: That was Super Bowl forty nine. 1046 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a really good team. They're a really good team. 1047 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 6: I think they're so cute. 1048 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 5: They deserve to be favored, and they deserve like I 1049 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 5: understand why the national media is all picking Seattle in 1050 00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 5: the game. 1051 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 9: I get it. 1052 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 8: It just feels weird to be in this position with 1053 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 8: the Patriots. 1054 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 10: Kind of being underdogs and acknowledging it, like I mean, 1055 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 10: go back to thirty six of the last time that 1056 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 10: it felt like this. 1057 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 2: Francisco's in North Carolina. I hate Francisco. 1058 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 14: Hey, what's going on, guys? 1059 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: So Francisco? 1060 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 8: All right? 1061 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 14: So first I just want to start off. I was saying, 1062 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 14: you know, I got I got the T shirts and 1063 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 14: I can't I can't thank y'all enough for you know, 1064 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 14: just to send me that and then going above beyond 1065 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 14: and you know, sending me the other one as well. 1066 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 18: And you know, so first of all, I just. 1067 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 14: Want to thank y'all for that, because you know, I've 1068 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 14: got I've got a lot of memories with the Patriots, 1069 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 14: and uh, it really struck a chord with me. You know, 1070 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 14: y'all going above and beyond. But so like when I 1071 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 14: became a Patriots fan, I was five years old and 1072 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 14: my grandfather passed away and that's the first time I 1073 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 14: ever went to Massachusetts. But when we got there for 1074 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 14: a funeral, they gave me one of his Patriots hat 1075 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 14: and then from that point on, I was locked in. 1076 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 14: But you know, it's i'll know, seeing the ups and 1077 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 14: like before, like when Jermaine curs Compact pime, Like I 1078 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 14: turned off the TV. I went in my bedroom. You know, 1079 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 14: I'm I'm human, and then my stepfather from another room 1080 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 14: turns it back on and I hear, oh he has 1081 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 14: and picked it, and then you know, I run back in. 1082 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 14: You know, after I was just like quickest mood change. 1083 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 14: And then like me and my girlfriend, we've been together 1084 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 14: for three years and so this year I came so 1085 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 14: you know, the three and fourteen or you know whatever, 1086 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 14: to where like I was watching games and I'm like, 1087 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 14: I'm expecting us to play bad, so I'm not getting 1088 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 14: upset and this year she's like, I didn't know you 1089 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 14: acted like this when you watch games, and I'm like, 1090 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 14: I was like, oh no, when we're great, like like 1091 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 14: I'm screaming at the TV, I'm upset with something bad. 1092 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 14: And she's like, you know, because the past couple of 1093 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 14: years have been terrible. So I just want to I 1094 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 14: just want to start off by all right, memories I've 1095 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 14: had with. 1096 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: All right, but before you go, do we have any 1097 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 2: predictions from the Great Francisco as to the game? 1098 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 4: Uh? 1099 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 14: I've got a couple, but I'm holding off on. 1100 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: A Okay, all right, next you hold off the radio 1101 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: or save it from radio? 1102 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, fair enough. 1103 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a quick break here of 1104 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: Vrabel one ten today. 1105 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: No Vrabel today, Okay, no, no nothing. 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It's the one and only Bill Parcells and coach. 1147 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: It's just a treat to see you again. 1148 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 20: Thank you very much, and it's good to be back here. 1149 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 20: Yeah in New England. 1150 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: Man, obviously very humbled by the honor. 1151 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me move this a little closer. Yes, 1152 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: have you been back? When's the last time you were here? 1153 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 20: Well, I was here with the Dallas Cowboys playing against 1154 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 20: right Okay, Yeah, yeah, I've. 1155 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: Been here just a couple of times to play. But no, 1156 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: I haven't been. 1157 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: Back because I remember, you know, when the Border war 1158 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: ended and you did that phone call with the New 1159 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: England Media and you said, yeah, you know, I'd love 1160 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 2: to come up sometime and just see a game. 1161 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 3: Still. Wait, I love, We'd love to have you anytime 1162 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 3: you want, you know. 1163 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 21: You know. 1164 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 20: So I'm in Florida in the winter, late season and 1165 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 20: in the winter, and uh, I'm racing horses in the 1166 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 20: summer most of the time. Yeah, but I do like 1167 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,919 Speaker 20: it here, and I feel good enough to come back 1168 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,479 Speaker 20: and see what's going. 1169 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: That'd be great. 1170 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 3: That were great. I know that. 1171 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 2: I know everyone would treat you, you know, like a 1172 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: king if you came back. I can tell you. You know, 1173 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: I know Julian Edelman's going in today, but I. 1174 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 22: Think Fred and I both believe that this is Bill 1175 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 22: Parcell's dad. 1176 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was great. 1177 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: And Matt Smith is here too. Matt is our executive coach. 1178 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 22: You don't you would never remember this, which I wouldn't 1179 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 22: wouldn't blame you. But wait, back when in ninety five 1180 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 22: when you were doing the TV show I was doing 1181 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 22: the TV show Lynch, Mike Lynch, Mike. 1182 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: Clinch, Yeah, you remember that. I got it. 1183 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 22: Yeah, coach, you'd want two super Bowls. You had some 1184 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 22: health concerns. I think people scratch your heads. Why did 1185 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 22: you come back? What was it about coming back that 1186 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 22: you wanted to come back? 1187 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: And White here, Well, I just loved the profession. 1188 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 20: And you know, it's if you see yourself as something, 1189 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 20: which is what I do, and it's all I ever did. 1190 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 20: And you know, those health concerns completely disappeared, and I said, 1191 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 20: why not? And so I still enjoy it and that's 1192 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,959 Speaker 20: what I want to do, and so I did it. 1193 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 20: But you were picky. 1194 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 2: How did James Orthwine convince you to come to the 1195 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 2: Patriots because you probably had options. 1196 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure I did have two options. 1197 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 20: I remember, mister Orthwe wasn't the one that really talked 1198 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 20: me into it. I can't remember the name of the 1199 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 20: fella that came down. I was in Florida. They flew 1200 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 20: down and we talked down there. That then general manager 1201 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 20: was Patrick Forte. Yeah, he came on the plane playing 1202 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 20: with us. We talked back forth, got a few things 1203 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 20: straight and I said, I'll let you know tomorrow. And 1204 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 20: I knew I was going to do it, I think, 1205 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 20: and so we got back to it. 1206 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1207 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: So Mickey Corkran was your high school coach, and I 1208 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: know he was an environmentor to you for a long time. 1209 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 3: Did you talk to him before you came here? 1210 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1211 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 20: But he you know, he's a coach at art. He 1212 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 20: wants to see his boy coaching, right so because that 1213 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 20: gives him something to do on Sunday. So he was 1214 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 20: all for it. You know, I always liked this area. 1215 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 20: I live very close to here now and it's been 1216 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 20: it's been fun. I've always liked to hear and it's 1217 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 20: a special place for me. 1218 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,720 Speaker 22: So when the when the when the draft was coming around, 1219 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 22: to coach Parcels, you know, I think the alleged prognosticators 1220 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 22: it's bled Somyer bleds Omayra. Was that a tough decision 1221 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 22: for you at the time? 1222 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: Not for me. I had a little. 1223 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 20: Contenson with the personnel director at the time named Charlie Army. 1224 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 20: He was he felt like Meyer was a safer pick. 1225 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 20: But I watched every pass that Drew Blessoe through on 1226 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 20: film for two years. I watched every pass he threw, 1227 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 20: and when I was done with that reel, I was 1228 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 20: convinced that's who I wanted. 1229 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it about that reel that. 1230 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 20: Well, he's a big, strong guy, six' five or six 1231 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 20: whatever it, is and he had a good arm they 1232 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 20: were playing in a passing offense At Washington, state and 1233 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 20: he had a lot of experience in the passing. 1234 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: Game and. 1235 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 20: You, know you never know when you. Pick you don't 1236 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 20: know to ever know exactly what you're. Getting, yeah BUT 1237 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 20: i thought there was a good chance to be. Successful 1238 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 20: he did a good. 1239 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 1: Job he sure. 1240 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 22: Did the end of the ninety three, Season coach parcels 1241 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 22: when you ran off those wins at the, END i 1242 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 22: think a lot of people here remember The miami game 1243 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 22: here at the end Of. December he Hits timpson down 1244 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 22: the seine with that long past at that point in. 1245 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 22: TIME i know it doesn't necessarily carry, over but did 1246 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 22: you where you think of? 1247 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 8: Yourself you know what we might be onto something? 1248 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: Here you? 1249 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 20: KNOW I i was fairly confident in, team even though 1250 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 20: the record wasn't showing that. YET i KNEW i had 1251 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 20: enough good, players and. 1252 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: We were getting them every year more and. 1253 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 20: More SO i felt like if we could just keep 1254 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 20: a good attitude and develop a good toughness and general 1255 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 20: overall expecting to. 1256 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: Win kind of, thing that we might have a. Shot 1257 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: and fair. 1258 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 22: Enough one of my crosses to beer coach is working 1259 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 22: With Scott zolac. TODAY i Love, Zoe But zoe tells, 1260 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 22: me SO i want to know what's accurate or what's not. 1261 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 3: Accurate, okay the. 1262 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: First of, all he's a slight. 1263 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 22: Exaggerator this is where to find out if he's really 1264 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 22: exaggerating or. Not so the way he tells the story 1265 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 22: is The minnesota game in ninety. Four you guys are 1266 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 22: down a, bunch and he said that he went up 1267 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 22: to you at halftime in the locker room and, said you. 1268 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 8: Gotta let the kid call his own. 1269 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,840 Speaker 22: PLAYS i think he tells it you looked at him and, 1270 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 22: said you know, what you want to coach the team, 1271 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 22: now and you turn on the hill and walked. 1272 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 8: Away he then says that after you, meeting you And. 1273 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,479 Speaker 22: Ray are talking about you know what's going on the second, 1274 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 22: half that you, said all, right, everybody here's the, Deal, 1275 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 22: drew you're calling your own, plays and that you looked 1276 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 22: At zoe and. 1277 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 3: Said good. 1278 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: Idea now That's zoe's. Interns that's pretty. Close here's what. 1279 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: Happened but. 1280 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 20: First of, ALL i had a little Visual prior to, 1281 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,439 Speaker 20: halftime we had been in a two minute offense for 1282 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 20: six or seven, minutes SO i had seen That minnesota 1283 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 20: was just playing one standard defense against, it AND i 1284 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 20: didn't know. 1285 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: Whether they had anything. 1286 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 20: Else so that's really WHY i agreed to do, it 1287 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 20: BECAUSE i knew we could hurt that one standard defense 1288 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 20: because we'd already heard it. 1289 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: Before they have right and now great moments in. 1290 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 4: HISTORY i don't think That Matthew stafford's a sure thing right. 1291 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 4: Now and you, KNOW i Like Matthew stafford And fred's 1292 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 4: gonna make fun of, me BUT i love. HIM i 1293 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 4: think if you get him, in you can find out 1294 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 4: exactly what you have. 1295 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 6: With With Baker. 1296 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 4: MAYFIE i guess in the last five weeks this is 1297 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 4: a GUY i think could really thrive in my. 1298 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 6: Offense, oh this is a guy that he's not a. 1299 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,879 Speaker 2: FIT i guess if you're saying That stafford's not a sure, 1300 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 2: thing then, okay, yeah. 1301 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,439 Speaker 6: BUT i, mean how can you Say stafford's a sure. 1302 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: THING i didn't know the injury was that like he 1303 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 2: was out for possibly out for twenty twenty. 1304 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 4: Three oh, no, no, no he's not going to be out 1305 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty. Three he may Decide i'm not playing. Anymore, Okay, 1306 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 4: well either, way like that a sure, Thing Like i'm 1307 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 4: just Like i'm not saying that there's any reports that 1308 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 4: say That Matthew stafford might not play next. Year i'm 1309 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 4: saying the guys in his late thirties and has a spinal. 1310 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 4: CONTUSION i think he might, say you know, WHAT i got, 1311 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 4: Lucky i'm getting. 1312 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 3: Out so he's not a sure. 1313 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 2: Thing so in, mcveiy's In Nick bay's, mind he's not. 1314 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 6: Sure just making a. Report i'm NOT. 1315 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 8: Mca that's another great moment from. 1316 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: All. 1317 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 2: Right welcome back To Patriots unfiltered at eighty five to. 1318 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 2: FIVE pats five hundred is the hotline podcast At patriots 1319 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 2: dot com. 1320 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 3: Is the email. 1321 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 2: Address people are a little concerned for. You oh, Yeah, deuce, 1322 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: uh Particularly rob In San diego Via. 1323 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 3: Connecticut he Got. 1324 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: Rob he, SAYS i love the show And i'm excited 1325 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 2: FOR pepsi fueled our discussions about what ties are and 1326 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: the definition of. Words but can someone please get do some? 1327 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 2: Help evan doesn't need internet. Trolls when the guy on 1328 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 2: The patriots podcast seemingly only talks about How drake may needs, 1329 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 2: confidence how vrabel cannot provide that in two weeks second 1330 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 2: year concerns, Emerging How drake is gaining experience insta build 1331 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 2: off of next. Year it's Like Paul, shows but instead 1332 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 2: of rage, bait it's anxiety. Induced we are in the 1333 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 2: Super bowl because we are a good. TEAM i wanted 1334 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 2: The seattle matchup BECAUSE i thought it was better for 1335 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 2: us than The. 1336 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 5: Rams, Yeah i'm not so sure about that. ONE i 1337 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 5: keep everyone keeps saying, that AND i, get like the stand. 1338 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 3: That's all because Of. 1339 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 8: DONALD i get, that but like The donald needs to 1340 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 8: be a pump. 1341 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 5: Dad rams secondary was leaking towards the you, know the 1342 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 5: back half of the, season and it leaked On sunday 1343 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 5: against The. 1344 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 9: Seahawks like did they run leak on? 1345 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 5: THEM i would really, know but The rams did run 1346 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 5: leak On, seattle and that definitely made the cut. 1347 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 9: Up that definitely made they had to check it. 1348 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 10: DOWN i Think i've learned a lot about myself over 1349 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 10: the course of, This, like you, know its people pointing 1350 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 10: out my style of watching games and HOW i. 1351 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 8: Know and everybody's one hundred percent. 1352 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 10: RIGHT i talk myself into anxiety and into LIKE i don't. 1353 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 8: Know about this and all my fall. APART i don't. 1354 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 8: Know that's HOW i enjoyed the, games that fatalist. 1355 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 6: APPROACH i just. 1356 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 5: Wonder HOW i, like you're gonna do with this one 1357 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 5: because like it's not hard to talk yourself Into, seattle so, 1358 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 5: like you, know this isn't like when you would talk 1359 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 5: yourself into like The saints and. 1360 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 20: Some. 1361 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 10: Plays it's also THAT i, say, Like i'm generally a pretty, 1362 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 10: upbeat positive, person AND i think if you get too 1363 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 10: much of, that it gets super, Annoying like nobody wants 1364 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 10: to hear, me just like you, know in a. PARADE i, 1365 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 10: think you, KNOW i try to maintain a level playing, Field. 1366 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 3: Mike In South Dakota's, paul you were right once, again. 1367 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 6: Oh, no last year and could come out of. 1368 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 2: That last, year when there was a debate about how 1369 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 2: The patriots get back to The Super, bowl a lot 1370 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: of people talked about how we need to build the 1371 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: offensive line and protect the quarterback at all. Costs, paul 1372 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 2: you always said that as long as the quarterback was, 1373 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 2: right that the old line didn't, matter Citing Joe burrow 1374 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 2: and The Bengal Super bowl run with. 1375 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 3: The WORST o line in the. 1376 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 2: League now that we're back in The Super, BOWL i 1377 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 2: think it's fair to say it's not because of how 1378 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 2: good OUR o line. Was in, fact some might say 1379 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 2: we are winning in spite of OUR o. Line it's 1380 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 2: not to say they've been terrible all, season but just 1381 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: proves that teams can win in a lot of different. Ways, So, 1382 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 2: paul have fun with this victory. Lap you will write. 1383 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 2: Again so let me get this. Straight The patriots are 1384 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 2: here because they didn't fix the. Trenches, oh they're here 1385 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: because Of drake. 1386 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 6: May in short of the, playoffs because of the DEFENSE mvp. 1387 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 9: Candidate did the defensive. 1388 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 5: Line but to sit here and say that the offensive 1389 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 5: line didn't, Improve, NO. 1390 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 6: I don't think he said. 1391 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 5: That and they also have four new starters on the offensive, 1392 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 5: line so it's NOT. 1393 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 4: I don't think he said the offensive line didn't. Improve, 1394 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 4: yeah BUT i THINK i don't think it's. 1395 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 9: GREAT i think. 1396 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 5: That it's marketably better than anything that they've had, recently 1397 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 5: to the point where like that to say that like 1398 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 5: that would be a feather in no offense in your 1399 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 5: cap that it was like that's they won a different, Way, 1400 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 5: LIKE i don't know about. 1401 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 6: THAT i don't think they won because of the offensive. 1402 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 5: Line they certainly did, not but they won the offensive 1403 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 5: line was functional for the majority of the season for 1404 01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 5: them where they, are. 1405 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 4: Which which has basically been my argument as that email just, said, 1406 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 4: like you don't need to have The eagles offensive line to, 1407 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 4: Win like you can just be functional like a lot 1408 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 4: of other teams that, win Like Kansas. 1409 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 10: City but that's the weird. Thing and like to your, Point, 1410 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 10: paul is that is exactly what Happened Drake. MAY i, mean, 1411 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 10: yes offensive line is, good pieces were solid around, him 1412 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 10: but he played at AN mvp level and that's why 1413 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 10: The patriots won a lot of. Games but you've gotten 1414 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 10: in the playoffs and that hasn't been the. Case now 1415 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 10: it's something. Different it's the. Defense it's it's. 1416 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 3: Strange, well you know it's playoff, time so it's defense. 1417 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Time. 1418 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 8: Right defense wins. 1419 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 2: Championships, Right i've heard, Right and it travels iron AND 1420 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 2: i would. 1421 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 5: Just like just the way the emailer was phrasing the 1422 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 5: email was like they didn't rebuild the entire offensive line 1423 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 5: in one. 1424 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 9: Offseason. Thing, no they. Did they. 1425 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 4: DID i, Mean i'm not going to get into a 1426 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 4: semantic argument as to how much better it, is but they. 1427 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Did they Have i'll tell you about the offensive, line the, 1428 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: coaching AND i think that's part of. 1429 01:01:59,000 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 3: It that's the key. 1430 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 2: Thing when you see, breakdowns it's not because of communication 1431 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 2: and guys standing there like. 1432 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 6: Not revisit this in the, office not knowing who. 1433 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 2: To, block which we saw a lot last. Year the 1434 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 2: coaching has been much better this, year a big. 1435 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 6: Time for my argument THAT i gabbled earlier. AGO i 1436 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 6: can have a good one With evan And fred for, 1437 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 6: THIS i. 1438 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 9: Just have to stand up from you, Know i'm an offensive. 1439 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 5: LINE i got a stand up for my, guys like you, 1440 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 5: know they they've done a great job and you know 1441 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 5: the playoffs hasn't been as good by any. Means BUT 1442 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 5: i think a large reason why they are here is 1443 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 5: because the offensive line hasn't. 1444 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 3: Proved that's one of my favorite players right, there. 1445 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 4: And because they didn't Have drake may Or Tom brady 1446 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 4: playing behind, him they never did. 1447 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 9: ANYTHING i think both things can be, true. 1448 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 2: BUT i Love that's my. Point BUT i love My 1449 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 2: hogs and you Know i'm A Will campbell. 1450 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 3: Guy excuse? 1451 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 8: Me is that what you call us? 1452 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 4: Now SO i would just, say like in a, nutshell 1453 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 4: LIKE i think what the email is trying to give 1454 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 4: me props, for and maybe he overstated it is just 1455 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 4: THAT i think they did improve the offensive. Line They it's, 1456 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 4: inarguable AS i, said you have four new. STARTERS i 1457 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 4: think all of that would be. True and if you 1458 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 4: didn't Have Drake, may it wouldn't. Matter they wouldn't have 1459 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 4: gone fourteen and. Three they wouldn't have been in the 1460 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 4: situation that they were. IN i think that a lot 1461 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 4: of people sort of insist that you need to build 1462 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 4: that line and have, this you, know impenetrable. Force it 1463 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 4: doesn't matter if the quarterback Like Drake may is the 1464 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 4: reason why they won a lot of the games they 1465 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 4: won in the regular. 1466 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 6: Season now the defense is the reason why they're winning 1467 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 6: in the. 1468 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 4: Playoffs so if you want to say that's like defense 1469 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,439 Speaker 4: championships all that, STUFF i mean they won three games 1470 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 4: in the playoffs because the defense was dominant all three. 1471 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 5: Games, Yeah and my only point, WAS i think we're 1472 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 5: on the same. Page it's just THAT i think you 1473 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 5: need to be functional. 1474 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 9: Upfront. 1475 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 5: YEAH i think if you're a disaster on the offensive, line. 1476 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 6: That's hard to. 1477 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 9: Overcome they just sent two teams. 1478 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 5: Home that are a disaster on the offensive line with 1479 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 5: The chargers and The, texans, Right so that's it's hard to, 1480 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 5: overcome even for the great quarterbacks unless you have like 1481 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 5: A Burrow mahomes level great it's hard to. 1482 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 3: Overcome, ye go To joe In. Chicago what's? 1483 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Up? 1484 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 3: Joe, Yo, Joe, Joe joe At, joe you're In, Chicago. 1485 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 2: Joe, Okay joe is. Gone let's go To danny And. Daytona, Hey, Danny, hey. 1486 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 9: Guys can you hear? 1487 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Me? 1488 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Paul? 1489 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:30,919 Speaker 6: Fred, yeah what's going? 1490 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 2: On? 1491 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 6: Danny? 1492 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 23: Hey what's going? 1493 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 20: On? 1494 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 15: Uh, PAUL i got a time IN. 1495 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 23: A couple of things to you And uh and you 1496 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 23: Two fred And, EVAN a couple of these, Takes BUT 1497 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 23: i want to start off with. 1498 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 11: Uh Brace. 1499 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 23: BERENGER i called in about this all season. Long you remember, This. 1500 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 23: Paul that guy's got to go after the. Offseason he is. 1501 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 23: Horrendous he's been horrendous Since bill draft. Him he's so 1502 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 23: inconsistent and we all saw on prime time how horrendous 1503 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 23: he cannot stand on the. Roster so that's number, one 1504 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 23: you gotta. 1505 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 16: Go number. 1506 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 23: TWO i don't know if you guys saw the the 1507 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 23: interview With rabel And Bill. Kauer if you, haven't go 1508 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 23: watched That they showed him before the. Game rabel showing 1509 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 23: him has often to see as a. Coach it was 1510 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 23: a really good uh, Talk abel talks about how he 1511 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 23: didn't start for four years and The steelers and then 1512 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 23: coming here and playing for eight years and then going 1513 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 23: To Kansas. 1514 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 16: City it was a really good. 1515 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 15: Interview the other. 1516 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 23: Thing Bill belichick getting. Stubbed Even Patrick mahomes chimed in 1517 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 23: On twitter and, whatnot and he, said that's. 1518 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 7: Ridiculous. 1519 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 23: Uh and even the long time the long Time hed 1520 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 23: coach And Fox sports analysts that was With, johnson that 1521 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 23: was with The. Cowboys he chimes in games That Jimmy. 1522 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 2: Johnson, YEAH i mean that's the thing players that went 1523 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 2: up against him you heard. 1524 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 3: From that's The marcos and that. That you, know come, on. Everybody. 1525 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 23: Yeah and then the last THING i have for you. 1526 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 23: GUYS i don't know if you guys saw this ON. 1527 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 23: Espn they put In greeney put his top five. Recognitions, 1528 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 23: paul you And fred would probably remember. This do you 1529 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 23: guys remember the it? Was it was The Jimmy. Blunkett 1530 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 23: he was drafted by The, patriots was terrible with The, 1531 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 23: patriots went to the Forty, niners was terrible with the Forty, 1532 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 23: niners goes to The raiders and win Two Super bowls with. 1533 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 23: Them and then they were making that comparison with Damn, 1534 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 23: donald how he flamed out in all those. Locations and 1535 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 23: then the same thing with oh what's his? 1536 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Name that was with The, yeah do you see any 1537 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Similarities donald And plunkett's, CAREER. 1538 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 4: I mean not, really BUT i will say that he 1539 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 4: was not good and then he went To oakland and won. 1540 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 4: GAMES i would Say donald has been much better the 1541 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 4: last two years Than Jim plunkett ever played for The, 1542 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 4: raiders LIKE i Think donald, PLAYED. 1543 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 3: I mean a different. 1544 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 4: Era, yeah But i'm just talking about He donald has 1545 01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 4: had more to do with the team winning the last 1546 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 4: two years Than plunkett did In. 1547 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 3: Oakland they had a lot of, Talent, yeah and they. 1548 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 23: Just, yeah and they basically gave that a scenario that 1549 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 23: there's two ways to do. It you don't always need you. 1550 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 23: Know they gave good. Examples The patriots put together a 1551 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 23: good roster and they're winning young with you, know, manity 1552 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 23: the sullarcraft With Drake may and then they, said look 1553 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 23: How siatle's doing. It so there's, like there's not two. 1554 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 23: Ways everyone thinks that's, oh. 1555 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 6: Just there's a lot of. 1556 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 4: Similarities The patriots spent a ton of money in the off. 1557 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 4: Season that WAS i read they. 1558 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 9: Got their cornerbacks who wrote. 1559 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 6: THAT i THINK i might have been another. One you boy, 1560 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 6: There solac just sort of. 1561 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 4: Talking about, how you, know like the whole thankstanding free 1562 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 4: agent thing that everybody poo poos, Like, no like they 1563 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 4: showed you spend, money you be, aggressive and you can 1564 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 4: you can win doing. 1565 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 6: That they over they overhuled the. Roster it's changing a 1566 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 6: fifty turnover. 1567 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,919 Speaker 5: Rate that's changing a, LOT i would, say in terms 1568 01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 5: of free, agency especially just like improving like the floor 1569 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 5: of the, roster the talent, floor because you, know you, 1570 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 5: know some of these guys that they sign aren't superstar, 1571 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 5: players but there's they're at least you, know above league 1572 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 5: average starters or out you, know so much better than 1573 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 5: the guys they're, replacing. Too and just getting that back 1574 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 5: to even back to average can really help a team a. 1575 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 5: Lot AND i think that's where free agency comes. In 1576 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 5: but you, KNOW i think that With, darnold you, KNOW i, 1577 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 5: remember you, KNOW i was living out IN la at 1578 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 5: the time when he was AT usc SO i saw 1579 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,680 Speaker 5: him four or five. GAMES i saw him Against Penn 1580 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 5: state in That bowl. GAME i think it's like The Rose. 1581 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 5: BOWL i was at that, game AND i would have 1582 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 5: sworn to the moon that he was going to be 1583 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback based off of how he looked AT 1584 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 5: usc and he goes To jets and they kind of ruined. 1585 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 9: Him LIKE i called for what it was. 1586 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 10: LIKE i give him a lot of credit to finally 1587 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,839 Speaker 10: break through In minnesota and then to have the courage 1588 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 10: to leave there AND i, know you, know similar offenses and, 1589 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 10: stuff but you, know we been to a few different. 1590 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 10: Stops you feel like you get To, minnesota it feels 1591 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 10: like it. WORKS i don't did they offer to bring 1592 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 10: him back or was that just we KNOW jj. 1593 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:07,679 Speaker 8: McCarty, yeah they, did. 1594 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 5: They, did but he knew that McCarthy was waiting in 1595 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 5: the wings and didn't want. 1596 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 10: To so IT'S i, mean it's another leap of faith 1597 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 10: for him a little bit to go To seattle and 1598 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 10: it's worked, out AND i know we're saving his, career Right. 1599 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:24,559 Speaker 5: Vin you, See Oh Kyle, Shanahan, yeah. 1600 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 4: He already spent as the backup In San. Francisco, yeah 1601 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 4: credits that with with sort of resurrecting his. 1602 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 5: Career it's really interesting AND i, think you, know The 1603 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 5: patriots are kind of a little bit of a of 1604 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,599 Speaker 5: a foil to, this but you, Know Sam darnold's been 1605 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 5: in A West coast offense since the forty nine, ers 1606 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 5: so he goes From Kyle shanahan to koc To Clint, 1607 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 5: kubiak so he's been in the same. System on the 1608 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 5: other side of the, ball With seattle's, defense Like mike, 1609 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 5: McDonald Jesse, minter like those guys are now like the 1610 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 5: bells of the ball in terms of how to scheme, 1611 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 5: defense and so everybody's trying to replicate the schemes That 1612 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 5: seattle is running on both sides of the, ball The 1613 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 5: West coast offense scheme and then the way that they play. 1614 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 5: Defense The patriots are kind of the, Opposite like The 1615 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 5: patriots are running still THE ep system With josh. 1616 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 9: McDaniels i don't even know what to call what they 1617 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 9: do on. 1618 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 5: Defense it's like kind of a combination Of Bill belichick's 1619 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 5: you know defense with what he, learned you, know what 1620 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 5: vrabel has learned in other. Stops it's kind of like 1621 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 5: a you, know melting pot of like different. Concepts so it's, 1622 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,759 Speaker 5: interesting Like seattle is like the way that everybody wants 1623 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 5: to like play, now like the way they structure. 1624 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 9: Everything It's Cody. 1625 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 10: ALEXANDER i Just i'll be interested one of these real 1626 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,799 Speaker 10: in the, weeds nerdy defensive film types if they had 1627 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 10: a write up of what are the roots of this? 1628 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 8: Defense. 1629 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 5: YEAH i was just talking To cody yesterday AND i asked, him, 1630 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 5: like you, know point me in the direction of some 1631 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 5: of the things you've written or said About mike, McDonald teach. 1632 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 5: Me and so he, did AND i can share those. 1633 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 5: Links but his coach a is His twitter. Handle he's 1634 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 5: really really well first and defensive football and terminology and 1635 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 5: all that kind of. Stuff AND i think one of 1636 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 5: the things THAT i was reading in his that really 1637 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 5: stood out was they don't blitz a, lot but when they, 1638 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 5: do it's really. Good, Yeah seattle doesn't have a high blitz, 1639 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 5: rate but when they do, blitz they are extremely effective at. 1640 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 10: IT i saw one up AND i saw like they 1641 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 10: plits both. Corners, yeah it blits both corners At, yeah it's. 1642 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,719 Speaker 9: Called like chucky or something like. That they call it crazy. Clown, 1643 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 9: yeah you, Know. 1644 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 3: Rick And louisville question For evan or anyone can ask it. 1645 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Answer i've heard. 1646 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,639 Speaker 2: More than one guru comment That Sam darnold's numbers drop 1647 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,799 Speaker 2: a ton when being pressured more than, most like towards 1648 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 2: the bottom of the. 1649 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 3: League is this? 1650 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 5: True Uh, NO i, mean like they drop like every quarterback, 1651 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 5: does and Like I'M i definitely think that that's that's 1652 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 5: what you gotta could do against any quarterback is you 1653 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 5: can't let ANY nfl quarterbacks sit in clean pockets all. 1654 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 5: Day but you, know he's more like middle of THE 1655 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 5: i would say in terms of like you, know whether 1656 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 5: you want to go passer RATING epa against, pressure which 1657 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 5: you know is where you this time of, year you're 1658 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 5: playing in the Super. Bowl it's not going to be Cam, 1659 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 5: ward who's thirty second in the league in passer rating under. 1660 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 5: Pressure it's going to, be, oh, well he's only sixteenth 1661 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 5: in passer rating under, pressure but when he's, clean he's. 1662 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 5: Second you, Know so those are the splits that you look. 1663 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 5: At you, know he does turn the ball over that 1664 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 5: that hasn't been as much of a problem in the 1665 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,719 Speaker 5: postseason as. 1666 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,640 Speaker 6: The regular clean in the. 1667 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 5: Postseason but, yeah, yeah and you, know but they've played 1668 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 5: maybe not this last game as, much but you, know 1669 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 5: the divisional round game was on their. Term so like 1670 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,720 Speaker 5: he's you, know when you play a blowout like, that 1671 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 5: you're not necessarily going to turn it. 1672 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 4: Down i'll say THAT i thought The rams GOT i 1673 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 4: don't know what the numbers. WERE i didn't look in 1674 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 4: the pressure, rate BUT i thought there were a number 1675 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 4: of plays that he made in The rams game that 1676 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 4: he was under. Pressure he was able, to you, know 1677 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 4: get off script and make. Plays now he is you, 1678 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 4: Know evan just talked about him coming out OF. Usc 1679 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,600 Speaker 4: he could do it all AT. Us see he's he 1680 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 4: was a big athletic quarterback in. College now you mentioned 1681 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 4: That Penn state. GAME i think that was the end 1682 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 4: of his junior. Whatever the second to last, year he 1683 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 4: had another whole year that he played. 1684 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 9: Again that was one of the most fun that he 1685 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 9: didn't play as. 1686 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 6: Well yeah that last. 1687 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 5: Year, yeah they lost SOME i Think juju went to THE. 1688 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,679 Speaker 5: Nfl they lost some guys to THE nfl on. Offense 1689 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 5: but Adri jackson was, like you, know a gadget player 1690 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 5: cornerback for. Them and that Was Sam darneld Versus Saquon 1691 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 5: Barkley's Penn. 1692 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 9: State that was a great game at The Rose. Bowl 1693 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 9: one of the best football Games i've ever been. To 1694 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 9: it was. 1695 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 6: Awesome wasn't that like a really high scoring? 1696 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 5: GAME yea And darnald just lit Up Penn state's defense 1697 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 5: just right down the, Field. 1698 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 3: Steven And ireland right. 1699 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,720 Speaker 2: Sin the reason everyone hates The patriots Hates we're back 1700 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 2: in The Super, bowl back being the evil empire in 1701 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 2: all of that rubbish is because Of. Bill it's so 1702 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 2: clear everything we achieved goes back to what he, built 1703 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 2: including Drafting brady and sticking with. HIM i love all 1704 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 2: our players and, coaches AND i don't like to say 1705 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,679 Speaker 2: who gets what credit because this is the ultimate team. 1706 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Sport but the root cause analysis of our success Is 1707 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,799 Speaker 2: Robert kraft Giving bill the keys to build something. Special 1708 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 2: the players won all our, games And brady is the 1709 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 2: biggest reason for. That but good players cannot overcome bad. 1710 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Coaching and for twenty, years our good players were developed 1711 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 2: into better, players and we're able to go out and 1712 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 2: become Multiple Super bowl champions because they had the best 1713 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 2: coaching you will ever. See, finally what bugs me the 1714 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 2: most is we are now going into our First Super 1715 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 2: bowl in a while where the focus isn't on well 1716 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 2: are the coaching quarterback? 1717 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 3: Speaking it should be a week to enjoy and be. 1718 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 2: Optimistic it's now ruined AND i feel for all the, 1719 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 2: fans current, players and. 1720 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 3: STAFF i don't think that's. TRUE i don't think it's 1721 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,679 Speaker 3: ruined ruined. 1722 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 2: YA i, HOPE i Hope Robert kraft addresses this matter 1723 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 2: also as it is an indictment of his team and 1724 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 2: his success a win next. WEEK i hope he comes 1725 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 2: out saying f you to the voters and pushes to 1726 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Induct bill to Our hall Of fame so we can 1727 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 2: get the, love, respect and deserving praise from the fans worship. 1728 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 3: Him Bill belichick is a patriot for. Life, YEAH i, 1729 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 3: THINK i, THINK i don't think. 1730 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,880 Speaker 5: Anything to get this is today's story by the time 1731 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 5: we get To Santa clara next. 1732 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 9: WEEK i totally. Agree BUT i was thinking about this 1733 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 9: last night with Mister. Kraft. 1734 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 5: Uh you, know if he doesn't get into, uh he's 1735 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 5: now made The Super bowl with three different head coaches 1736 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 5: and three different, quarterbacks you, know parcels and Bloodsoe Brady 1737 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 5: belichick and Now Verbele May and LIKE i Don't i'm 1738 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 5: not a football, historian BUT i can't imagine that that's 1739 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 5: happened very, often that he's basically rebuilt it three separate, 1740 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 5: times you, know with three different architects that you know 1741 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 5: in terms of head. 1742 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 10: COACH i, mean and now they've gone to a Super 1743 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 10: bowl in every decade since the, eighties which is kind 1744 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 10: of crazy to think. 1745 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 8: About it that way. TOO i, was you, know hearing. 1746 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 10: THAT i was thinking a little bit back to That 1747 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 10: bill's press conference last week that was a kind of 1748 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 10: a train. Wreck and you realize how hard it is 1749 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 10: for these kind of guys to work together for so, 1750 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 10: long you, know and and just how difficult it is 1751 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,800 Speaker 10: to manage those. Relationships and you, know you could see 1752 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 10: the tension Between bill And robert like in THE o nine, 1753 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,719 Speaker 10: documentary and you, KNOW i look. 1754 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 8: At robert being able to kind of put up With. 1755 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 10: Bill you saw the owner with you, know the guy 1756 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 10: that the owner of The bills is, like you, know 1757 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 10: someone's got to take the fall. Here this isn't going, 1758 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,600 Speaker 10: right you. Know and how easy would it have, been you, 1759 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 10: KNOW i, Mean robert didn't come to that point because 1760 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 10: he was always able to have a successful season pretty, much, Right, 1761 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 10: like was there ever a point where there was any 1762 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 10: doubt that you would want to Bring Bill belichick? 1763 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 6: BACK i don't think. 1764 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 10: So but it is hard to keep those kind of 1765 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,040 Speaker 10: relationships in a high profile industry like. 1766 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 8: This for twenty. Years twenty, YEARS i didn't think of each. 1767 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 8: Other everybody. 1768 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 5: DOES i just feel like you kind of hear a 1769 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 5: lot about How bill And brady are obviously tied together 1770 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 5: and what Did bill do? Without brady is often hoiled against. Him, 1771 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 5: well Mister kraft's done him with three different people, now, 1772 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,640 Speaker 5: Right like you know you can't like, that ISN'T i 1773 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,599 Speaker 5: know he's only won his Six Super bowls With Bill 1774 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 5: Belichick Tom, brady but if they win in ten, days 1775 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 5: and that's not even true. Anymore so at some point it's, 1776 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 5: like how many more times does he have to do? 1777 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 5: It like this is eleventh Super bowl that he's gotten 1778 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 5: his franchise. 1779 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 6: To. 1780 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 3: Uh back to the, phone s eight five to, five 1781 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,760 Speaker 3: pass five. Hundred melvin's In. Utah what's, Up? 1782 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 8: Melvin you're on your way To? California? 1783 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,760 Speaker 21: Melvin, No i'm out, here can you guys hear? 1784 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 10: Me? 1785 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 8: Yeah that's not our. Melon, no it's a new. 1786 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 3: Melon other people can be named. 1787 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,760 Speaker 8: MELON I i. 1788 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 21: Want to just SAY i one quick thing and THEN 1789 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 21: i want to give you guys my predictions. 1790 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 3: Quick the first. 1791 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,640 Speaker 21: Thing is That, paul you're the reason that we That 1792 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 21: Bill botchik's not going To hall Of. Fame when they 1793 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 21: did the finalist, announcement you were complaining and trying to 1794 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 21: play doubles out of the kid and saying all this. 1795 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 21: Crap and now he's not going To hall Of. Fame 1796 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 21: SO i hope you're. Happy the, reason, WELL. 1797 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with. YOU i couldn't care less 1798 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 4: about The hall Of. Fame So i'm not happy And 1799 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 4: i'm not. 1800 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 21: Upset and then My Super bowl prediction way too, early 1801 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 21: thirty one to. 1802 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 15: Seventeen just want to let you. 1803 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 2: Guys know that Wins, okay thirty one, SEVENTEEN i love. 1804 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 2: It i'm you know WHAT i know in The Andy 1805 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 2: hart school of, entertainment he's looking for a close game and. 1806 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,680 Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i would be just as entertained with an Easy patriots. Win, 1807 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 2: PLEASE i would love. That CAN i just relax and 1808 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 2: enjoy the. 1809 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 10: Game and not have to even the Greatest patriots teams 1810 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 10: in history that you've, watched the Worst patriots seem in 1811 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,600 Speaker 10: The Super bowl are the? Best even that they are 1812 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 10: always it's always. 1813 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 16: You. 1814 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,559 Speaker 9: Didn't, YEAH i could be. 1815 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 5: Wrong but very wrong about, this BUT i don't if 1816 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 5: it's going to be a blow AND i don't see 1817 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 5: it going to blow out towards the pageot. 1818 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 9: If it's going to be a, BLOWOUT i don't THINK 1819 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 9: i would thinking. 1820 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 2: The same thing the other, day and THEN i was, thinking, 1821 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 2: well you, know another really good team in the, league The. 1822 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,599 Speaker 2: Bills we were up twenty, one twenty four to, three 1823 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 2: and that could have been a blowout if we had 1824 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 2: just did what we needed to do in the second. 1825 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 2: Half AND i think that they're, well they're probably not 1826 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,640 Speaker 2: as good as The, seahawks but in terms, OFFENSIVELY i 1827 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 2: think they have just as much. 1828 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 9: POWER i think they're better Than seattle. 1829 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 2: Offensively, Right so like if we did it against, them 1830 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,640 Speaker 2: maybe we could do that against The, seahawks and at 1831 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 2: this time we take care of business in the second. 1832 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 5: Half it does help, that you, KNOW i think That 1833 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 5: seattle team playing at home is a totally different animal The. Twelves, 1834 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 5: yeah that stadium is you want to talk about home field, 1835 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,760 Speaker 5: advantages that that is a legit home field, advantage and you, 1836 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,280 Speaker 5: know it's closer To seattle certainly than it is To. 1837 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,599 Speaker 3: Boston they're going to have an. ADVANTAGE i think. 1838 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 5: They're gonna have an, advantage but it's not going to 1839 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 5: be like playing it in front of the. 1840 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 9: Twelves and, yeah. 1841 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 4: CAN i just ask, you, guys if you had to, 1842 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 4: Say bills against The seahawks on a neutral, field who 1843 01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 4: do you think Wins. 1844 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Seahawks it's a good. GAME i think it's a. 1845 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 6: BLOWOUT i Think seattle would kill. HIM i Think seattle 1846 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 6: would kill. HIM i think they would do enough defensively 1847 01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 6: to slow Down James. 1848 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 8: Cook and, yeah. 1849 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 6: You pick your wide receiver you want to try to 1850 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 6: try to throw the ball. 1851 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 8: To and that's that's one of the silver. 1852 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 6: Lines you don't run on. 1853 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 8: Him, YEAH i mean it's not just Hoping donald turns 1854 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 8: into a. 1855 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 10: Pumpkin it's just That donald isn't one of those guys 1856 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 10: that you feel like you got to be eight. Seconds 1857 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 10: he's a fish and he's still GONNA i, mean you, 1858 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 10: know it's maybe he maybe he plays that. 1859 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 4: That to be would be the only pan victory for 1860 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 4: The bills is If donald had one of those games 1861 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 4: and he did. IT i mean he had the First rams. 1862 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 4: Game he threw four, picks so he can do. It 1863 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 4: he's STILL i, mean it's that's still in him a little. 1864 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 4: Bit but but even just THE i don't want to 1865 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 4: have to rely on that of you, know. 1866 01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 10: Getting down to the end of the game and feeling 1867 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 10: like you have a, lead and not to SAY i 1868 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 10: would be, relaxed because you all know. 1869 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 8: Me Now i'm gonna be littered from anxiety during the. 1870 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 8: Game but you, know it's just not have that feeling 1871 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 8: With Josh allen where it's like until the clock hits. 1872 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 6: Zero it would all depends on what the score. 1873 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,640 Speaker 4: Was if it was like a game Like, SUNDAY i 1874 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 4: wouldn't think That Sam donalds all of a, Sudden you're 1875 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 4: gonna put a drive together now and win fourteen to. 1876 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 4: Ten but you, know if it's a game like, That 1877 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 4: bill's game was thirty five thirty. 1878 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,040 Speaker 6: One, Yeah i'll take the offense and then the other. 1879 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 8: Side how do they deal with WITH? Jsn you, know 1880 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 8: and and Is gonzo get on? Him and you, Know 1881 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 8: gonzo is just so. 1882 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 10: Athletic And i've been so impressed WITH jsn this year 1883 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 10: of how athletic he. 1884 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 8: Is like that's a really fun matchup to. 1885 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 10: Watch and you, know we said it all season, Long we're, 1886 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 10: like wait till we get to the, playoffs then you're 1887 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 10: gonna be glad you Got Christian. Gonzalez i'm not saying 1888 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,440 Speaker 10: that he's going to follow. 1889 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 6: The, playoffs but he's been. 1890 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 8: Good and when you go. 1891 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,719 Speaker 3: To one of their, availabilities remember. 1892 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 6: HIM i Remember. Galule It's jeff, Right Jeff Jef. 1893 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,839 Speaker 5: HARDING i worry about how much they MOVE jsn. Around, 1894 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 5: YEAH i. 1895 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 6: Don't and you don't think they'll travel. 1896 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:53,720 Speaker 3: THEM i. 1897 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 9: Don't it's it's. 1898 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 5: Hard it's, hard and, like you know what they'll do 1899 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 5: a lot is you, know like in the game on 1900 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 5: in THE Nfc champions of, game they had him run 1901 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 5: around out of the, backfield and it's, like, okay so 1902 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 5: what do you. Do you're gonna Put gonzo in the 1903 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 5: box and have him cover him out of the, backfield 1904 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 5: out of the, box you, know and then you kind 1905 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 5: of get into the whole thing that we have talked 1906 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 5: about With Zach korr a couple of times of, well 1907 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 5: if you're shadowing or you're, traveling now you're tipping. Coverage 1908 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 5: so now they know it's man to man because you're 1909 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 5: not going to Put gonzales in the thought or in 1910 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 5: the box and then fall into his Own it just 1911 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,639 Speaker 5: doesn't make a lot of. Sense so like it then 1912 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 5: you kind of lose your element of disguise a little. 1913 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 5: Bit and so they do a really nice job With 1914 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 5: jaysn of kind of undressing coverage by moving him around 1915 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 5: and putting him in different, spots and so now you 1916 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 5: kind of have to dictate, coverage and then he gets 1917 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 5: matched up on a linebacker and it's. 1918 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 10: Hard to do the Old bill thing of double the, 1919 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 10: one put your number one corner on the. 1920 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 8: TWO i, mean some of. 1921 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 5: THAT i think it's A i think it's hard the 1922 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 5: way they play offense to truly double a player out 1923 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 5: of the game because of the they, were the way 1924 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 5: that they line him, up the way that they use condensed. 1925 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,679 Speaker 5: Formations you, know it's just not it's not an offense 1926 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 5: that's conducive to like you know The colts where it 1927 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,680 Speaker 5: was Like Marvin harrison's going to be over, here, right 1928 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 5: and you know every play he's going to be over 1929 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 5: here like this. Time and you, know so now if 1930 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 5: you have a bracket ON, jsn, well now if he 1931 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 5: motions or he, shifts now you have to communicate, like, 1932 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 5: okay are we like how are we doing it? 1933 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:23,679 Speaker 3: Now? 1934 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 9: Right, like, well who's on him? Now you, know and 1935 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 9: and it starts to get. 1936 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,639 Speaker 5: Complicated SO i think that's the biggest problem with him 1937 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 5: is that he's not a traditional OUTSIDE x. Receiver he 1938 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 5: is a true chess, piece like he could literally Run 1939 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 5: hero out from. 1940 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 4: Anywhere SO i know it's a whole different coaching staff, 1941 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,240 Speaker 4: obviously but when you're the way you're talking about how 1942 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 4: well they do in moving him, Around i'm thinking of 1943 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 4: The rams game In Gillette stadium last. 1944 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,600 Speaker 9: Year, similarly it's exactly the. 1945 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,519 Speaker 4: Same when you, know you're, like all they got is 1946 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 4: Like nicoua and like why can't they cover? Him and 1947 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 4: Like Cooper cup was kind of, uh you, know kind of. Washed, 1948 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 4: yeah like how are they getting these guys wide? Open Where's? 1949 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 4: Gonzo why Is gonzo not? 1950 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:07,600 Speaker 6: On you? 1951 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 4: Know and that's What i'm kind of thinking. Of they 1952 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 4: just do a good job of scheming it up to 1953 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 4: make sure that you can't do. 1954 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 5: That it's exactly the same. THING i think that him 1955 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,639 Speaker 5: And nikula played close to identical roles and it's a similar, 1956 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 5: offense and you know the way that they move those guys, 1957 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 5: around and you know. 1958 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 9: They Don't these aren't. 1959 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 5: You, know teams that really play a lot of stagnant 1960 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 5: formations where you just are going to sit in the 1961 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,120 Speaker 5: same formation and know exactly what you're gonna get. It 1962 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 5: that's the hardest part about their. OFFENSE i don't think 1963 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 5: their offense is overwhelmingly. TALENTED i don't. KNOW i think 1964 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 5: It's nikula OR, Jsn Kenneth. 1965 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 9: Walker that's how good is A J? 1966 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 6: Barner really good? 1967 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 5: BLOCKER i Mean i'm not like worried about him like 1968 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,839 Speaker 5: having a big passing, game but he's a good. Blocker Elijah, 1969 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 5: royo their, rookie is more of like a pass catching tight, 1970 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:58,439 Speaker 5: end but he doesn't play very. 1971 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 9: Much it's really sober So. 1972 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 2: Barner i'm just curious going down there wide receiver or 1973 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,840 Speaker 2: past catching. Roster jsen has probably the most, Volume but 1974 01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 2: what what does it look? 1975 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 6: Like do we Know Cooper? 1976 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 4: CUP i think, YEAH i thought in terms of, volume Like, 1977 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 4: BARNER i thought was the next Leading you might have 1978 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,280 Speaker 4: that in front of, You, PAUL i. 1979 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 6: DO i can look it up for. 1980 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 4: You you don't have to print for me. 1981 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,880 Speaker 6: ANYMORE i found that. 1982 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 4: Out, Yeah barner is the second leading receiver in terms 1983 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 4: of volume fifty two Catches cup with forty, seven and 1984 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 4: then there's a huge. 1985 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 6: Job yeah you know that's not. 1986 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,640 Speaker 5: A, lie, Right that's What i'm trying to, say is 1987 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,599 Speaker 5: like it's not a Very, uh it's a diverse scheme 1988 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 5: and like they kind of hit you in a bunch 1989 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,639 Speaker 5: of different, ways but it's not a very deep roster 1990 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 5: in terms of skill player. 1991 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,080 Speaker 6: Talent The patriots are pretty pretty much the. 1992 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 2: Same, well we all say think that The patriots need 1993 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,599 Speaker 2: to upgrade their wide. 1994 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 4: Receiver, Right, yeah and The seahawks absolutely don's. Right it's 1995 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 4: one great play and then kind of a lot of. 1996 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 5: Afterthoughts, YEAH i Mean cup is, like you, KNOW i 1997 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,719 Speaker 5: have no issues like Whatever cup does Against Carlton, davis 1998 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 5: he does, like you, know Like i'm okay with living 1999 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 5: with with those. YARDS i got to stop the. Run, 2000 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,360 Speaker 5: yeah and you got to take them out to play. 2001 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 10: Action but would you say it's fair then to say 2002 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 10: you can't really just Take jason out of the game 2003 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 10: make them beat. 2004 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:23,719 Speaker 8: Us with somebody. 2005 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,160 Speaker 10: Else it seems really hard to execute that with the 2006 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 10: way that they move him. 2007 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,599 Speaker 5: Around and, YEAH i think, so AND i think we'll 2008 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 5: hear a lot about that and over the next ten 2009 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 5: days as. Well if you just Take, jason, okay, well 2010 01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,640 Speaker 5: if anybody could just Take, jason. 2011 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,760 Speaker 6: My guesses every, TEAM i mean they went fourteen and. 2012 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 6: Three my guesses every team in The league tried to 2013 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 6: do that and he had one hundred and nineteen. 2014 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 9: Catches, yeah, YEAH i mean there was. 2015 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,600 Speaker 5: One you, know the same thing With, Puka like you, 2016 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 5: know you watch The rams tape and you're, like how's 2017 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 5: he opened so wide open all the? Time, Yeah and 2018 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 5: you know it's just good. Offense it's good. 2019 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,440 Speaker 3: Scheme, Yep. 2020 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 2: Nick And ohio were being disrespected And i'm tired of. 2021 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: It have they've been watching our? Defense do we not 2022 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 2: have two elite tight ends about? That do we not 2023 01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 2: have massive, meccollins one thousand yard Motivated Stefan. Diggs i'm 2024 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,479 Speaker 2: frustrated with the, media and this happens Every patriots Super. 2025 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 2: Bowl let them talk because if there is one franchise 2026 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,879 Speaker 2: fueled by denial from the, haters it's The New England Patriots. 2027 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 3: Warriors we all we. 2028 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 2: Got we all we need in ps big Super bowl 2029 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 2: party at local posts in The cincinnati it's a. 2030 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 3: Bar we're also fueled By duncan there you. 2031 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,600 Speaker 4: GO i would just question for those of you in, 2032 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 4: there what was the Last Super bowl The patriots appeared 2033 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,360 Speaker 4: in that they were not expected to? 2034 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 6: Win thank, you no further. 2035 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 3: Questions that's all, Right, Paul it works for, us but. 2036 01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 6: Like this happens Every Super bowl to disrespect like. 2037 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 3: Maybe like well, no and they do. 2038 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 5: Disrespect maybe in fourteen because The legion Of boom had 2039 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 5: so much, respect there was people picking The seattle but. 2040 01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,640 Speaker 4: Like i'm not telling you, That i'm not telling you 2041 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,760 Speaker 4: The Super bowl a lot of. PEOPLE i actually heard 2042 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 4: someone before The Eagle Super bowl, say if you matched 2043 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 4: up player for, player you would probably take twenty one 2044 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 4: of The eagle starters over The. Patriots but The Brady 2045 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 4: foles matchup is leading me to pick The. Patriots that's 2046 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 4: what a lot that. Was it was one, guy but 2047 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that Thought philadelphia could win that. 2048 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 4: Game there's a lot of people that Thought seattle. 2049 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 6: Could win that. 2050 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 4: Game Last, yeah not a lot of people thought The 2051 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,639 Speaker 4: rams are going to win that game Without, cooper cup 2052 01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,959 Speaker 4: And gurley and the guys they were. Missing and nobody 2053 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 4: thought The. Falcons nobody thought The falcons were beating The. 2054 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 4: Patriots nobody thought The giants were beating The patriots in either, 2055 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 4: game even though the even though The patriots the Second 2056 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 4: Patriots giants, GAME i think The giants may have been, 2057 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 4: favored but no one thought The patriots are going to 2058 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,200 Speaker 4: lose that game BECAUSE i thought it was going to 2059 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 4: be all revenge for the last, time so like the 2060 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,840 Speaker 4: whole disrespect when really. 2061 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,599 Speaker 10: SAD i would have bet my life on that game 2062 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 10: that they were gotten The giants the second, Time. 2063 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 4: Carolina, please people didn't even Think carolina should have boably 2064 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:05,759 Speaker 4: showing up to that game. 2065 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 6: Was one of those and that was a great, game great. 2066 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:16,559 Speaker 2: Game, Yeah mike's In Puerto. Rico what's, Up, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. 2067 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,040 Speaker 8: Mike it's a Big Super bowl for. 2068 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 3: Us are you? 2069 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 14: There? 2070 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:25,439 Speaker 17: Hello give me, guys, Yep, Okay, oh you're coming in really. 2071 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 17: Low REMEMBER i believe it Was peter In. Houston they 2072 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:35,559 Speaker 17: called yesterday asking about the person In california that plays 2073 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,600 Speaker 17: the bed in order to go to the. 2074 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,920 Speaker 11: Game, yeah it was, you that's. 2075 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 9: Me what do you what do you? 2076 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 17: GO i am, WELL i put two hundred down on 2077 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 17: fifty to. One this was in the first week Of, 2078 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,640 Speaker 17: october And i'm finding out that that might not be 2079 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:56,960 Speaker 17: enough to get the two dickens wow to go to 2080 01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,679 Speaker 17: go with my. Girl BUT i am standing exactly. Five 2081 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 17: i'm at work right now AND i am five miles 2082 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 17: away From levi's AND i leave AND i live ten 2083 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,719 Speaker 17: miles away From. Levi's ticket nice excited about. 2084 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:14,120 Speaker 3: It, yeah all, right, well good. Luck to keep your eye. 2085 01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 8: Out you got to keep that, money just keep. 2086 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 3: It sometimes the prices come down just before the. 2087 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 1: Game. 2088 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah a good. 2089 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,679 Speaker 2: Thing you don't have to, travel so it's just ticket. 2090 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 2: Money yeah all, Right so what so what was the final? 2091 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,559 Speaker 2: Tally you've got two hundred and fifty to, One. 2092 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,880 Speaker 8: So is that twenty? TIMES i don't know how so. 2093 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 9: Correct. 2094 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 17: It's fifty ten, thousand two. 2095 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:36,679 Speaker 15: Hundred you can get. 2096 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,000 Speaker 3: Two tickets for ten thousand dollars four. 2097 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,759 Speaker 17: Grant you might want to check the they're right, NOW 2098 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 17: i mean the lowest that you can find out. There 2099 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 17: it's probably like sixty five. 2100 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 15: Hundred But i've heard, this that's what you're. 2101 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,800 Speaker 17: Saying i'm, monitoring, hoping hoping they come. Down i'm willing 2102 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 17: to go a little bit out of. Pocket BUT i 2103 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 17: genuinely thought that that would get me, it but it. Didn't, okay, 2104 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 17: again getting to See Green day as one of the opening, 2105 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,760 Speaker 17: acts and then getting to see That bunny and My 2106 01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,679 Speaker 17: patriots in such a great, SEASON i, MEAN i couldn't 2107 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:08,040 Speaker 17: ask for. 2108 01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 3: More all, Right, yeah a little out of pocket won't kill. 2109 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:10,760 Speaker 9: You green. 2110 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:16,160 Speaker 3: Day all, right Thanks. Mike let's go To joe In. 2111 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,960 Speaker 3: Chicago joe is. Back what's? 2112 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Up? 2113 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 3: Job hey, guys. 2114 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:25,200 Speaker 21: Can you hear me. 2115 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:30,000 Speaker 3: My mail route and? Service you're on your mail? Route? 2116 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,240 Speaker 3: Now do you do you walk your? Route did you? Drive? 2117 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 14: No i'm not driving, route But i'm made one of those. 2118 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 3: Trucks that have like very no. 2119 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,880 Speaker 15: Heat, no it's cold. 2120 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 2: Here, yeah and your steering wheel on the right hand. Side, yep, 2121 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,360 Speaker 2: yep that's pretty. Cool. 2122 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:55,679 Speaker 8: COOL i want to See fred driving into work and he's, like. 2123 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 3: Which is pretty? 2124 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,880 Speaker 8: Cool, RIGHT i got it. 2125 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,200 Speaker 3: Switched why is? 2126 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:00,280 Speaker 1: That? 2127 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 2: Why why do the right to the mailbox right up 2128 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:04,560 Speaker 2: to the? 2129 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:04,920 Speaker 1: Maka? 2130 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 15: YEAH i guess. 2131 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 4: WELL i don't have that kind of a mailbox that's 2132 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:12,640 Speaker 4: on the. 2133 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,679 Speaker 3: House paul has like a. TRANSOM i don't. 2134 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 6: KNOW i DON'T i don't have, land so. 2135 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:25,479 Speaker 4: There's not this stretch of expanse between the mailbox in my. 2136 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 3: House you can make fun of. ME i literally it's 2137 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:28,200 Speaker 3: like Green. 2138 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 2: ACRES i have to go across the street to my, 2139 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 2: mailbox of. 2140 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 9: Course. 2141 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2142 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,439 Speaker 6: No and my, neighborhood all the mailboxes are on the. 2143 01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,320 Speaker 4: House they, walk they walk out the walk away and 2144 01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,160 Speaker 4: they put the mail in the. 2145 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 5: Mailbox he's still if he goes down the street on 2146 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 5: the right hand, side then he can just pop out 2147 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,600 Speaker 5: and not have to go in the. 2148 01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 14: Middle. 2149 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:55,680 Speaker 4: Boom all, right Sorry joe studio football question because he 2150 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:56,599 Speaker 4: just mail. 2151 01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 3: TALK i just wanted, to you, know thank. 2152 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,640 Speaker 15: You first of, all you guys get me through my. 2153 01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 23: Route SO i love, you and you Know i'm new 2154 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 23: to listening to you guys in my first time. 2155 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,439 Speaker 15: Column but, yeah you guys get make it your route every. 2156 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,880 Speaker 3: Day so thanks a. Lot, Okay, hey appreciate all you 2157 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,240 Speaker 3: do on your mail. Route thank, You. Joe appreciate. 2158 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,000 Speaker 7: THAT i have A Super bowl Ticket i'm seeing is 2159 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 7: sixty nine hundred dollars and it's in section four hundred 2160 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 7: and one four. 2161 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,320 Speaker 8: Hundred that's going to come. 2162 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,200 Speaker 6: Down that's REALLY i want to come down to six 2163 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 6: and even six for game. 2164 01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 3: Day i'll bet you want to. 2165 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 2: Bargain you'll get that ticket for half in ten. Days 2166 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 2: Haf let's go to chat IN. 2167 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 3: La what's? 2168 01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:39,599 Speaker 1: Up? 2169 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 18: Chat, hey, guys how are you? DOING i was going 2170 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 18: to ask you about, WELL i want to make one, 2171 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,719 Speaker 18: statement SO i think there's gotta be one playoff game 2172 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:59,400 Speaker 18: where we see the regular season offense, play And i'm 2173 01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 18: curious because of how well the team has been managed 2174 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:11,599 Speaker 18: for the. Playoffs If, paul do you feel that your 2175 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,760 Speaker 18: credit To Drake may throughout the regular season because of 2176 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 18: his performance being so? 2177 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 15: Great are you. 2178 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,639 Speaker 23: Kind of changing your feeling about that now that we're in. 2179 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 18: The Super bowl with his poor performance? 2180 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 6: Potentially, YEAH i actually talked about this a little bit. 2181 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,559 Speaker 6: YESTERDAY i would feel better. 2182 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 4: About the overall team itself in that they've been able 2183 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 4: to find different ways to. 2184 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:40,840 Speaker 6: WIN i. DON'T i think it's a very fine. 2185 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:42,920 Speaker 4: LINE i, think LIKE i, SAID i THINK i mentioned 2186 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 4: on the postgame show When mike AND i you could 2187 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 4: be having very different conversations if not for a couple 2188 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:53,040 Speaker 4: of very fortunate things that have. Happened AND i know 2189 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,600 Speaker 4: people don't want to hear, it so it's probably not 2190 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,280 Speaker 4: the time it's been the ot, like you, know, Like i'm, 2191 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 4: sorry if plays you're not sitting there, saying, oh maybe 2192 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 4: it wasn't all About Drake. May, no it probably would 2193 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,080 Speaker 4: have all been About Drake may because you probably would 2194 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 4: have lost the game if you only scored ten points in. 2195 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,639 Speaker 4: It you, know, Again i'm not saying the game unfolds 2196 01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 4: the same. Way i'm just, saying if that game unfolds 2197 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,639 Speaker 4: And drake in Bow nick's, Plays denver probably scores more 2198 01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:22,040 Speaker 4: than seven, points and then we're not necessarily, saying you, 2199 01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 4: know the defense was, great you, know but like they 2200 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,280 Speaker 4: might have scored fourteen points and you might have. Lost 2201 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,439 Speaker 4: the defense was no less great if that had. Happened you, 2202 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 4: know If Sean payton kicks a couple of field, goals 2203 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 4: we're having a different. Conversation the defense was, phenomenal AND 2204 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 4: i do think that that's a positive sign for the 2205 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,680 Speaker 4: team that it wasn't Just Drake may carrying them in 2206 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 4: the three playoff. Wins that's a positive for the for the, 2207 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:49,679 Speaker 4: defense for the team. Itself it speaks better for the entire. 2208 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,960 Speaker 4: OPERATION i do agree. 2209 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,879 Speaker 9: With with check and more complete team than we thought. 2210 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 4: They, are AND i did say that. YESTERDAY i think 2211 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,679 Speaker 4: that's probably the best thing that went. ON i don't 2212 01:35:58,720 --> 01:35:59,679 Speaker 4: know about the deep thing. 2213 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:00,160 Speaker 14: You say a. 2214 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 6: LOT i don't necessarily agree with. 2215 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,840 Speaker 8: That but, well, yeah, guys that did okay when they 2216 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,680 Speaker 8: got in. There that's. ALL i just don't think you 2217 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,200 Speaker 8: can underestimate the weather. 2218 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,360 Speaker 3: Either, oh the weather had a big part in. 2219 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 14: It. 2220 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah for the other team. 2221 01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,280 Speaker 17: Too no blowing in your, eyes there's nothing you can. 2222 01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,599 Speaker 6: Do, Yeah, no SHOULD i not credit the defense, then 2223 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,519 Speaker 6: well that's WHAT i thought they. 2224 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:25,320 Speaker 17: Did they did. 2225 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,720 Speaker 18: It they did absolutely the maximum they could possibly do 2226 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 18: under the. 2227 01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 15: CIRCUMSTANCES i. 2228 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,599 Speaker 4: GUESS i think the defense has been phenomenal in all three. 2229 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,240 Speaker 4: Games did the weather help, them of course it, Did 2230 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,880 Speaker 4: BUT i think the defense played really well in all three. 2231 01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:38,240 Speaker 6: Games. 2232 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,160 Speaker 3: YEAH i mean they had. 2233 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 5: To, win whether it was because whether impacted or, not 2234 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 5: they had to win a defensive, game and absolutely three. 2235 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 10: Times would you say these three playoff games have altered 2236 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,960 Speaker 10: how you view the offseason and you now think things 2237 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:53,760 Speaker 10: need to be done that you might not have thought 2238 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 10: going into. 2239 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 6: This that's a great. QUESTION i don't know the. Answer, 2240 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:56,680 Speaker 6: no it's a great. 2241 01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 5: QUESTION a little bit, OFFENSIVELY i, think you, KNOW i 2242 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:00,640 Speaker 5: think they need another guy at. 2243 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 4: RECEIVER i thought that BEFORE i, did BUT i might 2244 01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 4: think strongly more. 2245 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 6: Strongly, YEAH i don't know that sports. 2246 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,599 Speaker 5: SPREAD i think that you, know whether it's a tight 2247 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,400 Speaker 5: end or it's a it's a, receipt it doesn't. Matter 2248 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,680 Speaker 5: just they need another impact playmaker on, offense. 2249 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:15,840 Speaker 3: BUT i think this game might. 2250 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,240 Speaker 4: Have BUT i felt that before this, game dude brought 2251 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,320 Speaker 4: up the tight. End yesterday along With evan you were 2252 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 4: talking about that they need the dude on the. 2253 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,360 Speaker 8: Outside, yeah either, Way. 2254 01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 5: I'm Not i'm not picky in terms of like if 2255 01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 5: it's you, Know gronk or if It's Randy, Moss, like you, 2256 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,800 Speaker 5: know it doesn't like both are you build it? 2257 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,080 Speaker 9: Different but it's both. GREAT i think. 2258 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,920 Speaker 5: Defensively the one guy that's changed my mind is Calebon, Chason, 2259 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,600 Speaker 5: like you, know what are you going to do with? 2260 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,560 Speaker 5: Him he's a free agent at the end of the. 2261 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 5: Year with this playoff, run he's going to get The 2262 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,080 Speaker 5: Milton williams. Treatment probably of it's gonna he became. 2263 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:48,280 Speaker 6: Harder, YEAH i. 2264 01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,479 Speaker 5: Me you, know he's a former first round pick that's 2265 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,200 Speaker 5: kind of realizing his potential under a good coaching, staff 2266 01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,800 Speaker 5: and it's having the run of his life right. 2267 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 6: NOW i, MEAN i have to hope that he just 2268 01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:57,720 Speaker 6: love it. 2269 01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,120 Speaker 10: Here so that's What i'm so interested in is is 2270 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,080 Speaker 10: does he really love it? 2271 01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:02,720 Speaker 8: Here and you, know it does seem like he's got 2272 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 8: a good. 2273 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:04,599 Speaker 6: Relationship either, way you got to give him a lot 2274 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:05,280 Speaker 6: of money either, way you. 2275 01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,000 Speaker 8: Got to give him a lot of. 2276 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,719 Speaker 10: Money and you Know landry falling off due to, injury 2277 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:10,800 Speaker 10: is he going to suddenly find the fountain of? Youth 2278 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,160 Speaker 10: the edge is a huge, need and it's you've already 2279 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 10: had a guy in house that can do. IT i 2280 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,800 Speaker 10: think that they'd be smart to make Him Chase on a. 2281 01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,600 Speaker 10: FOCUS i don't think there's anybody else out there on 2282 01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,000 Speaker 10: the market, that's you, know super. 2283 01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,560 Speaker 8: Pealing But i'd pair him and Then i'd have a 2284 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,200 Speaker 8: high round drop pick too at that. 2285 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,960 Speaker 5: Position, like even if he's not the player that he's 2286 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,760 Speaker 5: been in the playoffs and he's closer to what he 2287 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 5: was in the regular, season that's still a starting caliber edge. 2288 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,240 Speaker 5: Rusher AND i feel like it's a little bit like 2289 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 5: what they did with the offensive line a couple of years. 2290 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,840 Speaker 5: Ago if he, walks, well now you need to starting 2291 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,280 Speaker 5: edge rushers and you've kind of created, this you, know 2292 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,439 Speaker 5: another hole in the. Boat so, Right, so LIKE i 2293 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 5: feel like With Chase, on even if you overpay him 2294 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,479 Speaker 5: a little bit for the player he was in the regular, 2295 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,439 Speaker 5: season if you know he's capable of this in the, 2296 01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 5: playoffs that's where you're going to be hopefully a, lot you, 2297 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 5: know moving. 2298 01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,400 Speaker 10: Forward SO i think one thing that's changed for me 2299 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,880 Speaker 10: this season too was Just i'm probably gonna lean more 2300 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,280 Speaker 10: towards bigger receivers BECAUSE i think that's What drake like. 2301 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,519 Speaker 10: Agreed you, Know i'm saying away from, small, shifty you, 2302 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,559 Speaker 10: know no offense To Bob, douglas but it just it 2303 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,599 Speaker 10: doesn't seem like he think he has. 2304 01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:13,360 Speaker 6: A good okay with. 2305 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:17,280 Speaker 2: That, NO i would much Prefer drake get more used 2306 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 2: to smaller, receivers like not have to say there's a. 2307 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:21,640 Speaker 6: Happy don't waste that kind of. 2308 01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 5: Talent there's a happy medium between five foot eight and six, four, 2309 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,800 Speaker 5: Right like it doesn't as you, Know Kashan boodie is 2310 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,600 Speaker 5: not not six, four he's six'. One but you, KNOW i, 2311 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 5: AGREE i think watching him throw the ball To Mac collins, 2312 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,559 Speaker 5: specifically you see how comfortable he is because he does 2313 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,400 Speaker 5: have that catch radious that he doesn't have to be. 2314 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:39,879 Speaker 9: Perfect. 2315 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,960 Speaker 10: YEAH i also JUST i wonder about and this is 2316 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,360 Speaker 10: definitely Something paul will laugh, about but the fullback position 2317 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,439 Speaker 10: of like you just kind of Had Jack west over 2318 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,599 Speaker 10: here and he filled in and. 2319 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 3: He you, know can you get that? 2320 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,760 Speaker 9: Cover, well, yeah is coming Back brock. Lamp he is coming. 2321 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,599 Speaker 8: BACK i know that there's only there's only. 2322 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,639 Speaker 4: One they had a true, fullback they may have gone 2323 01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,080 Speaker 4: fifteen in two instead of fourteen. 2324 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,640 Speaker 10: THREE i know there's only One Kyle, Uschek but is 2325 01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 10: it too much to ask to find a guy who 2326 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,360 Speaker 10: can make some plays at that. 2327 01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,720 Speaker 3: Full back or improve the answer your? 2328 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,080 Speaker 8: Question oh, yeah, yeah the offensive, line you have a full. 2329 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:12,800 Speaker 9: Back they're. 2330 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,200 Speaker 8: Fine he'll be. Back he'll be. 2331 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,240 Speaker 9: Back is he any? 2332 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:16,760 Speaker 8: GOOD i don't. 2333 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:21,920 Speaker 9: Know it's a it's don't. Listen your tea didn't say. 2334 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 8: Anything you're a Second titan. 2335 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:24,719 Speaker 3: Too laras And Boston. 2336 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,719 Speaker 2: Rights paul predicted The patriots in the Super bowl During 2337 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,760 Speaker 2: week one of the. Preseason at the one minute twenty 2338 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,520 Speaker 2: second mark into the postgame podcast after The commander's preseason, 2339 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,800 Speaker 2: Game paul interrupts dus and, DECLARES i don't want to 2340 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,280 Speaker 2: get lost with the preseason, game BUT i think they're 2341 01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 2: going to the Super. Bowl check the, archives Given, Flowers, Bravo, 2342 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 2: matt dig it. 2343 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,320 Speaker 6: Out see every once in a, while smite Ask paul comes. 2344 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 8: THROUGH i wasn't being snarky at all on that. 2345 01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:53,799 Speaker 6: One not snarky at, All. 2346 01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,719 Speaker 2: Chris writes In yesterday you Mentioned Matt collins talking about 2347 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,960 Speaker 2: warriors come out to, play and it reminded me of 2348 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,599 Speaker 2: a military tribute song that fits perfectly with The patriots warrior. 2349 01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,680 Speaker 2: Ethos i'd love to see someone rework it into The 2350 01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,400 Speaker 2: patriots entrance song At foxborough talk about psyching the other team. 2351 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 2: OUT i don't know what it. Is he's got a YouTube. 2352 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,600 Speaker 2: Blank we're not going to go to. That as we 2353 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,400 Speaker 2: head into The Super, bowl which matchup or position battle 2354 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,640 Speaker 2: is going to keep you up at night until the 2355 01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:22,719 Speaker 2: game finally decides? 2356 01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 9: It, yeah. 2357 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:30,200 Speaker 5: Defensive line against The patriots offensive lines the. GAME i, 2358 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 5: mean the one thing THAT i find that's a little 2359 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,720 Speaker 5: bit comforting about it is that they win a lot 2360 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,479 Speaker 5: with scheme and a lot with games or stunts up. 2361 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:43,040 Speaker 5: Front and usually not, always but usually when you have 2362 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 5: as much line movement as they do against mobile, quarterbacks 2363 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,120 Speaker 5: it can be problematic because it's aggressive and you can 2364 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,559 Speaker 5: lose your gaps and you can get out of, position 2365 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,280 Speaker 5: and you, KNOW i think there are opportunities that you 2366 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,000 Speaker 5: see on film with you, Know stafford is not exactly 2367 01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 5: the guy that's going to do that that maybe he 2368 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,560 Speaker 5: can get out of the hocket AND i don't know 2369 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,160 Speaker 5: if he's gonna be able to, throw but you, know 2370 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,479 Speaker 5: at least the running rushing that we've, seen you, know 2371 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,679 Speaker 5: in the playoffs maybe can continue at a high. Level 2372 01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,680 Speaker 5: and maybe he does hit, one you know as a 2373 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 5: thrower out of, structure which you know could be. 2374 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:16,280 Speaker 9: Big you, Know. 2375 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,439 Speaker 10: I'd love to see him get back to that. Play 2376 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,880 Speaker 10: just make this a great Super bowl to. Watch get 2377 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,680 Speaker 10: the WHOLE nfl world excited about this kid and his 2378 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,880 Speaker 10: potential and his. Skill but it ain't gonna be. Easy 2379 01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,880 Speaker 10: this IS i JUST i love all these. Defenses they're all, 2380 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,160 Speaker 10: different and you, know they all have different talent in different. 2381 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,880 Speaker 10: Spots and you, know this one is funny BECAUSE i 2382 01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,680 Speaker 10: don't think it's the most, talented but it's the. 2383 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 8: Best it's the one that plays the best. Together it's the. 2384 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 5: Deepest you, know they're seven eight deep on the defensive. 2385 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,519 Speaker 5: Line they have a deep, secondary like THEY i think 2386 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:52,800 Speaker 5: it's probably the most complete personnel. Wise but, they LIKE i, 2387 01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,360 Speaker 5: said they they're. Aggressive you know they're gonna come after. 2388 01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,920 Speaker 2: Them their their turnaround was pretty. Remarkable you, know they 2389 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:04,120 Speaker 2: Fire carol to get rid of, uh what's His Nameino? 2390 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 2: Smith and so people didn't know what they were going to. 2391 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,880 Speaker 2: Do they they brought In, donald you, know first time head, 2392 01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 2: coach and they turned it around just as much as 2393 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:13,400 Speaker 2: The patriots. 2394 01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,080 Speaker 4: Did mike McDonald's what did they do last? Year the 2395 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,639 Speaker 4: nine and, eight ten and seven and didn't they didn't 2396 01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,479 Speaker 4: make the? Playoffs ten, wins but they, were you, know really. 2397 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 4: Tough it was a good job by The Pete. 2398 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:25,200 Speaker 9: Carroll you know they were. 2399 01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:29,120 Speaker 5: Bad they were actually pretty good, offensively would you know 2400 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,280 Speaker 5: at the, end you know they had j s and 2401 01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,920 Speaker 5: they HAD Dk metcalfe. 2402 01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,360 Speaker 9: Toward The Patriots Tyler lockett at the. 2403 01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 6: End that was the first time that their defense fell 2404 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 6: apart That that's really why what led to all the coaching. 2405 01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:47,280 Speaker 3: Changes eldred's In North. Carolina what's Up? Eldred hey doing? 2406 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:47,439 Speaker 14: It? 2407 01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 3: Okay did you lose your truck and? Job we don't 2408 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:50,799 Speaker 3: hear the horn. 2409 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 14: They? 2410 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,559 Speaker 3: Now are? You you're not in the truck? 2411 01:43:54,640 --> 01:44:02,640 Speaker 11: Lately, No i've been off for a couple of. Days, okay, yeah. 2412 01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,599 Speaker 11: Uh evan About Christmas elly out Of tennesse seat stuck 2413 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,479 Speaker 11: and round or Maybe chris bailed out a little. Bit 2414 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:09,320 Speaker 11: but he's going in the. 2415 01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:12,639 Speaker 5: First i've heard of the kid From louisville seeing him 2416 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,360 Speaker 5: a little. BIT i gotta be honest with The. Aldred 2417 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:17,960 Speaker 5: we're in Super bowl. 2418 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,680 Speaker 9: Mode, yeah where's your? 2419 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:26,800 Speaker 5: Head i'm very very behind. It And bart brought it 2420 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,519 Speaker 5: up to me today and they started to stress me 2421 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,960 Speaker 5: out a little. Behind we're both very behind on The 2422 01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:33,840 Speaker 5: it's not. 2423 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,400 Speaker 3: Good, yeah that's a. 2424 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,240 Speaker 11: Know where at The Super. Bowl two things that scares, me, 2425 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:45,400 Speaker 11: Okay one lying back against walking out in the past 2426 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:49,679 Speaker 11: and them tied. In and two they secondary against our 2427 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,720 Speaker 11: wide receivers that they all call lean pass you, know 2428 01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,400 Speaker 11: and can, cover but The rams scheme the way to 2429 01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:01,600 Speaker 11: get him open, open my boy. Can't so this is 2430 01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:02,240 Speaker 11: What i'm worrying. 2431 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:02,559 Speaker 3: About. 2432 01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 11: Okay IF i think it will be a one wide receiver, thing, 2433 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,680 Speaker 11: No jase and is this volume. Guy but he had 2434 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,360 Speaker 11: no problem to on to nobody. Else and where he 2435 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,840 Speaker 11: looked at in that championship. GAME i think he got 2436 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:20,120 Speaker 11: a chip on his Uh Donald. Donald the way he 2437 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:21,800 Speaker 11: looked at the championship, GAME i think he got something 2438 01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,080 Speaker 11: to prove, too you, know because everybody doubted. Him, also, yeah. 2439 01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:29,160 Speaker 5: Even doing a touchdown the deuces, Guy Jake bobo, All it's, 2440 01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,000 Speaker 5: like what is happening? 2441 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,559 Speaker 10: HERE i gotta get over this table at media AND i, Somehow, 2442 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,880 Speaker 10: yeah The bobo took some dumb on hill, hockey. 2443 01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,000 Speaker 5: You, know THE Nfc championship game. Table The rams offense 2444 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,920 Speaker 5: against The seahawks defense was. DEPRESSING i was, like oh, 2445 01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,320 Speaker 5: Cool i'll just Get pookingakua and like, YOU i won't be. 2446 01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,120 Speaker 5: Good Uh SO I i was like kind of like 2447 01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,639 Speaker 5: in a dark place after watching that one BECAUSE i can't. 2448 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,519 Speaker 5: WIN i was, LIKE i don't you can't Replicate Matthew 2449 01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 5: stafford throwing a dime To pooking the coula Who moss 2450 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:56,360 Speaker 5: is a? 2451 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:57,240 Speaker 9: Guy and then like. 2452 01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:02,160 Speaker 5: Sick but the regular season game Again Rams, seahawks the 2453 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,200 Speaker 5: one that went to overtime In seattle towards the end 2454 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,679 Speaker 5: of the. Season there was a lot of open receivers 2455 01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 5: on that, tab like wide open receiver And. 2456 01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 6: Tampa must have done something against him because they had 2457 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:11,760 Speaker 6: a high school that was. 2458 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:12,160 Speaker 9: A long time. 2459 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:16,200 Speaker 5: Ago but, YEAH i, Agree, yeah but The seattle, one, 2460 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,240 Speaker 5: see The rams won during the regular. SEASON i think 2461 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,400 Speaker 5: it Was week sixteen that went to. OVERTIME i was, like, 2462 01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,840 Speaker 5: okay all, right here's some. Things here's some. 2463 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 4: Right it's seventeen, seventeen, thirteen twenty thirty eight Against tampa 2464 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 4: twelve nineteen, fourteen twenty, two twenty, one twenty four zero 2465 01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,920 Speaker 4: nine sixteen thirty seven against The rams ten and. 2466 01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,479 Speaker 6: Three it's like two bad games all. 2467 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,280 Speaker 9: Year, yeah, yeah The. Rams that game was LIKE i 2468 01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:43,720 Speaker 9: found some peace in that. 2469 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:47,640 Speaker 3: Game Was paulette is in? Quinsy what's, Up? 2470 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,840 Speaker 24: PAULETTE i just want to talk a little bit ABOUT 2471 01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:55,920 Speaker 24: Thefc championship. Gig The pakers must be in great chase 2472 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,680 Speaker 24: because you see everybody else In. Denver they're on the, 2473 01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,520 Speaker 24: sideline second, off and The patriots. 2474 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:07,559 Speaker 3: Just sat there right. Agreed, absolutely we must be in great. 2475 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:07,960 Speaker 1: Shape. 2476 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 5: YEAH i heard you couldn't win. THAT i heard the 2477 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,720 Speaker 5: altitude WAS i haven't even done this this. WEEK i 2478 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,280 Speaker 5: heard the altitude was too, much too much to. Overcome 2479 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:17,600 Speaker 5: what do. 2480 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,720 Speaker 2: You think about The patriots killing another offensive coordinator or? 2481 01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:21,960 Speaker 3: Coordinator was that? 2482 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 9: WORTHY i went on a little bit of a rant about, that, RIGHT. 2483 01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 8: I, mean it seems like they Were, okay it's that's my. 2484 01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,920 Speaker 5: Right it's you call the, plays, dude like this is your, 2485 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,160 Speaker 5: Offense like you scapeged your offensive coordinator when. 2486 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 4: It's a coordinator didn't decide not to go up to. 2487 01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,280 Speaker 4: SCHOOLS i thought it was that was your. 2488 01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:42,760 Speaker 5: Call and he also fired the wide receivers coach, too 2489 01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,080 Speaker 5: because he claimed that they were dropping too many. Passes 2490 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 5: AND i was, like, dude this is this is your, 2491 01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,040 Speaker 5: Offense like this is you Are Sean. Payton you call the. 2492 01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:52,280 Speaker 8: Plays you have to. 2493 01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,479 Speaker 4: Play rant last week About Sean payton AND i, said, 2494 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,200 Speaker 4: like it's one of the things that LIKE i thought 2495 01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 4: was an intangible that kind of flipped was because he 2496 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,439 Speaker 4: was without his. Quarterback, now maybe he didn't have any 2497 01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 4: pressure on, him BECAUSE i Think Sean payton has a 2498 01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,519 Speaker 4: little choker in. HIM i think he's a really good, 2499 01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,960 Speaker 4: coach BUT i think he has some choker in. Him 2500 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,680 Speaker 4: you saw the choker he choked a little bit in that. 2501 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:16,880 Speaker 4: Game that was some bad decision making in critical. Situations 2502 01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,519 Speaker 4: and he did the same thing with The. Saints AND i, 2503 01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,240 Speaker 4: Know i'll just give you one example that no one 2504 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,439 Speaker 4: ever talks about because it was such an egregiously bad 2505 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,599 Speaker 4: call on that pass and appearance that put The rams 2506 01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,320 Speaker 4: in The Super. Bowl the last time The patriots were 2507 01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,759 Speaker 4: in The Super, bowl do you remember that blatant miscall 2508 01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,559 Speaker 4: on the passing. Apperance no one remembers that The rams 2509 01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,680 Speaker 4: had no timeouts, left and if The saints had just 2510 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,120 Speaker 4: run the ball on second and third, down they could 2511 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,439 Speaker 4: have called time out and kicked the field goal as 2512 01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:46,599 Speaker 4: time expired to win the. Game but for some, reason 2513 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,280 Speaker 4: he decided to throw the ball got screwed when they 2514 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,600 Speaker 4: didn't call passing, Appearance and everybody says that he you, 2515 01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:57,240 Speaker 4: know he did everything. Right that's losing track of the, 2516 01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:01,639 Speaker 4: game losing track of a situation at a mike at 2517 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,880 Speaker 4: a critical juncture of the. 2518 01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,479 Speaker 5: Game AND i just thought it WAS i, mean he 2519 01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,840 Speaker 5: said it, all but like he got beat By Zach 2520 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,800 Speaker 5: korran multiple times in key, spots like he admitted. It, 2521 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,680 Speaker 5: yeah and he admitted, it and then he comes out 2522 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,519 Speaker 5: the next day and Fires Joe, lombardi, like so it 2523 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,840 Speaker 5: was his fault that you called a boot on fod 2524 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 5: down and didn't Block Milton. Williams LIKE i Just i'm 2525 01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 5: With paula As Sean. PAYNE i THINK i. 2526 01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,280 Speaker 4: Like Sean payton as a. COACH i think he's a good. 2527 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,880 Speaker 4: Coach i'm not telling you he's a. STIFF i think 2528 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:33,479 Speaker 4: he's a little. 2529 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:38,760 Speaker 2: Overrated chad From, Schenectady, schenectady, right sin CAN i just 2530 01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,680 Speaker 2: say that If stafford was dealing with a shoulder thing 2531 01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:43,880 Speaker 2: Like may, is the media would be talking about it 2532 01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 2: like he's playing through an injury that requires surgery and 2533 01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,240 Speaker 2: could threaten his. Career With, may it's mild to no 2534 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,200 Speaker 2: concern from national media and will get brushed off the 2535 01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,559 Speaker 2: one eighty from national darlings to public enemy number. One 2536 01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,639 Speaker 2: that has happened since people realize The patriots might actually 2537 01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,320 Speaker 2: be good again and make Another Super bowl a few weeks, 2538 01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,599 Speaker 2: ago should be. Studied whatever feels good to be us 2539 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:06,040 Speaker 2: against the world, Again. 2540 01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:11,120 Speaker 6: So they're Not CAN i ask a question, NOW i 2541 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:12,160 Speaker 6: guess you. 2542 01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:17,400 Speaker 4: Can't do you want them to talk About Drake may's 2543 01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,200 Speaker 4: shoulder or do you not want him to actually? 2544 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:20,720 Speaker 9: Try the whole conversation? 2545 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,759 Speaker 4: Nauseating, okay, so So evan doesn't want to talk about. 2546 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,400 Speaker 9: The shoulder at, all like he's gonna, Play SO i would. 2547 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,439 Speaker 4: Agree i'm not that this is not a refermendum on 2548 01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,800 Speaker 4: what your opinion. Is i'm saying this guy wants them 2549 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,599 Speaker 4: to talk more about the shoulder. Injury other people think 2550 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,559 Speaker 4: they're talking too much about the shoulder. Injury, okay when 2551 01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,240 Speaker 4: was the last time you heard anybody talk About Matthew 2552 01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:44,320 Speaker 4: stafford's back injury that kept him out of the entire 2553 01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:48,439 Speaker 4: summer and threatened his. Season when was the last time 2554 01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:50,680 Speaker 4: you heard anybody talk about? That well in the region Of, 2555 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,080 Speaker 4: august is the last time that that was talked? 2556 01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:53,400 Speaker 3: About? 2557 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:56,559 Speaker 6: Correct did anybody talk about? 2558 01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,800 Speaker 4: That in THE Afc championship Game we're watching and he's 2559 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,320 Speaker 4: doing all of this with this, problem like his his 2560 01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:05,439 Speaker 4: career almost ended In. August there was questions of whether 2561 01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,280 Speaker 4: or not he was going to be able to play 2562 01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:08,280 Speaker 4: this season at. 2563 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,800 Speaker 6: All, yeah was on. IT i just like to you, 2564 01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:12,680 Speaker 6: know present the. 2565 01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:16,240 Speaker 9: Facts did you hear yesterday The Big boy on with. 2566 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:17,760 Speaker 6: Oh Oh, god an? 2567 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,600 Speaker 9: Embarrassment that was fantastic. 2568 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 20: RADIO i. 2569 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,120 Speaker 4: Have the audacity to ask him what he knew About 2570 01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:27,160 Speaker 4: Drake may's shoulder, injury and basically The Big boy told, 2571 01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,160 Speaker 4: him we're not talking about, that and shut, Up. Felger 2572 01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:33,400 Speaker 4: this is a non. STORY I i already told you 2573 01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,000 Speaker 4: this is a non. Story like like he broke the story. 2574 01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 1: Good. 2575 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 3: LIKE i just enjoyed his recording for people he. 2576 01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,480 Speaker 6: Trusts what an, unbelievable unbelievable. 2577 01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,479 Speaker 5: BABY i just love when, people you, know yell At. 2578 01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 5: Felger it Just felga just. Laughs it's so. 2579 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,400 Speaker 2: Funny alex And lowell not able to listen, live so 2580 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,120 Speaker 2: apologies if this has been. Discussed thinking about how the 2581 01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,639 Speaker 2: offense has been in a lull this, postseason it got 2582 01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,000 Speaker 2: me wondering If josh McDaniels says any tricks up his 2583 01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,160 Speaker 2: sleeve For Marcus jones in The Super. BOWL i think 2584 01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,000 Speaker 2: the offense will turn things around regardless in two, weeks 2585 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,320 Speaker 2: but if we get desperate Against, seattle up might be 2586 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,360 Speaker 2: worth to have a play or two in hand For. 2587 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:11,840 Speaker 3: Jones. 2588 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,720 Speaker 4: Wrinkle you don't have to save anything right last. Game 2589 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,240 Speaker 4: you're not worried about keeping him healthy. 2590 01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:17,639 Speaker 8: Anymore gonna have he's. 2591 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,120 Speaker 2: Got you get him out there and it's, like, Okay Marcus, 2592 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:21,320 Speaker 2: JOSEPH i don't feel. 2593 01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,479 Speaker 4: Hasn't that happened every time he's been on the field, 2594 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,439 Speaker 4: OFFENSIVELY i, Guess and he seems to make a. 2595 01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:26,360 Speaker 6: Play they've used. 2596 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:27,400 Speaker 9: Him as a decoy before. 2597 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 5: TOO i MEAN i think that is, true, Though, Fred, 2598 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,160 Speaker 5: like if you're only going to do it once and 2599 01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,360 Speaker 5: you're gonna throw him the, ball it's pretty, predictable whereas 2600 01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,320 Speaker 5: if you've shown it on tape, before where you have gadget, 2601 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,280 Speaker 5: plays and sometimes he's a decoy and sometimes he. Isn't 2602 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,800 Speaker 5: then it becomes a little bit more. USEFUL I i two, 2603 01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,600 Speaker 5: PLAYS i would say, that you, Know i'd more be 2604 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,759 Speaker 5: interested In Travon henderson returning kickoffs and seeing if. 2605 01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:55,760 Speaker 4: He i've been wondering when that was going to happen to, 2606 01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,960 Speaker 4: me maybe especially with his workload really being cut back 2607 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,760 Speaker 4: because it's Been he. 2608 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,680 Speaker 5: Played four snaps in The Apes championship game AND i 2609 01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,320 Speaker 5: didn't kick off a, Lot so you know that obviously 2610 01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,120 Speaker 5: played a. Role but you can't tell me that he 2611 01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,840 Speaker 5: couldn't be a better option than dearness From. 2612 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:15,880 Speaker 2: WICHITA i think one positive takeaway from playing three consecutive, 2613 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,080 Speaker 2: messy find a way to win type games is that 2614 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,000 Speaker 2: McDaniels hasn't had to get too deep into the. PLAYBOOK 2615 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,360 Speaker 2: i bet there are eight or more plays in the 2616 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,439 Speaker 2: Super bowl that we haven't seen. Before i'm excited to 2617 01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:27,759 Speaker 2: see anything they can scheme. 2618 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,920 Speaker 4: Up, Also i'm going to accept that challenge on behalf Of. 2619 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,639 Speaker 4: EVAN i want you to tell me if there's any 2620 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,080 Speaker 4: place that you haven't Seen i've actually AND i got 2621 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:36,960 Speaker 4: to tell you there's a laundry list of trick plays 2622 01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,479 Speaker 4: that they're running every game they ran a flee Flicker Marcus. 2623 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,960 Speaker 5: Jones YET i do uh you, KNOW i do think 2624 01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:47,720 Speaker 5: that some of their core concepts that they've ran all 2625 01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:51,680 Speaker 5: year could use like a left, hook you, know like, 2626 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,680 Speaker 5: okay you we love, Stick so like now we're going 2627 01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,400 Speaker 5: to run like, stick, no and you're going to jump 2628 01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,680 Speaker 5: the stick and then he's going to go up thee you. 2629 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,640 Speaker 5: Know and LIKE i haven't really done a lot of 2630 01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,600 Speaker 5: that because they didn't really have, to you, know but 2631 01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:07,320 Speaker 5: as a time they. 2632 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,800 Speaker 4: Might have some adjustments and, whatnot because there always are 2633 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:13,040 Speaker 4: AND i think That josh is pretty, creative but they're 2634 01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:14,040 Speaker 4: empty in the book every. 2635 01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 2: Week, yeah this is more about like we should run 2636 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:23,879 Speaker 2: quad post quad post. Four it's a commis it's a nuclear, 2637 01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:28,040 Speaker 2: quad right you hit the, button nuclear war four guys 2638 01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:28,960 Speaker 2: goes straight. 2639 01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:34,600 Speaker 6: And just so if you have so for you could 2640 01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:36,280 Speaker 6: take all four guys out with one one. 2641 01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:40,480 Speaker 5: Defender so so for vert ye best player in sports 2642 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,360 Speaker 5: is it? Fours, WELL i personally am a fan Of 2643 01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,320 Speaker 5: I'll Go, Special all Go, Special i'll Go, special which 2644 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,680 Speaker 5: is like four, verts but the inside receiver runs like 2645 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,840 Speaker 5: more of like a post than a go and it 2646 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,800 Speaker 5: kind of occupies the safety. 2647 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:53,000 Speaker 9: A little bit. 2648 01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:59,120 Speaker 5: Better but that's like about everybody this. 2649 01:54:59,200 --> 01:54:59,880 Speaker 6: Year what about the st. 2650 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:04,160 Speaker 5: Liberty i'm less interested in all these little trick plays 2651 01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,760 Speaker 5: and more interested in like everybody kind of knows what 2652 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,640 Speaker 5: you run, Now so like what is the compliment off 2653 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,800 Speaker 5: of that thing you've been running all year that maybe 2654 01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,680 Speaker 5: they don't haven't seen on film, yet you, Know like 2655 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 5: they know that you're going to Run stefan digs on 2656 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 5: a little option route over the middle of the, Field so, 2657 01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,080 Speaker 5: like is there another thing that they can do off of? 2658 01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 9: That like maybe he goes vertical instead of. 2659 01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:25,960 Speaker 3: You, know what about mesh rub. 2660 01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:30,080 Speaker 9: Closer that's a real. Thing mesh mess is a real. 2661 01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:34,880 Speaker 5: THING i, mean mesh rub is kind of. 2662 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,480 Speaker 9: Redundant it's kind of like atm. 2663 01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,760 Speaker 2: Machine but you get to the mesh you, know you 2664 01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,320 Speaker 2: get to the mesh point and they give them a little. 2665 01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,760 Speaker 8: RUB i don't want to know. What you're, relaxed and 2666 01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,040 Speaker 8: then you get away. 2667 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,280 Speaker 3: One other thing From matt before you go. 2668 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,760 Speaker 2: On hold that, thought, deuce what does this defense have 2669 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:54,360 Speaker 2: to do to get national media? Attention after every game 2670 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,560 Speaker 2: the narrative is the other team screwed. 2671 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:59,640 Speaker 4: Up there might be some truth to that one THE 2672 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 4: us because they not that its, us. 2673 01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:04,840 Speaker 6: They're jealous of. 2674 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,200 Speaker 5: Us if you're going to go with THE hata Single 2675 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,840 Speaker 5: Bill belichick not being a first Ballot hall Of famer 2676 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:14,360 Speaker 5: is definitely more than the defense getting. Disrespected, NO i was. 2677 01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:15,800 Speaker 10: Just, SAY i think it'd be a good question For 2678 01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,320 Speaker 10: josh of just what have you learned over the course 2679 01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,360 Speaker 10: of going to so Many Super bowls about what you 2680 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:22,440 Speaker 10: need in your game? Plan, like you, know what would 2681 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,360 Speaker 10: you take into your game plan now that maybe those 2682 01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,760 Speaker 10: first couple of times you were, like, SHOOT i, mean you, 2683 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,480 Speaker 10: know a class example was having like a. 2684 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:30,880 Speaker 8: Bunch of two point. PLAYS i think they, said, oh 2685 01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:32,240 Speaker 8: we had a bunch of two point plays in or. 2686 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,200 Speaker 6: Whatever but, no, no, no, no, knowing, no, no you got it. 2687 01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:36,240 Speaker 9: Wrong you got it. 2688 01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 6: Wrong it's because they, knew. 2689 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,040 Speaker 4: You think it was going to be a high scoring 2690 01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,120 Speaker 4: game and they were going to need extra. 2691 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:44,400 Speaker 3: Two point plays at, least you know, What. 2692 01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,400 Speaker 6: That's another whole argument all in. 2693 01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,880 Speaker 5: Itself you also like fourth, down you know NOW i 2694 01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,560 Speaker 5: think THAT i find that so fascinating now that teams 2695 01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 5: are going for, It i'm more on fourth. 2696 01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:55,720 Speaker 9: Down you need more fourth down. 2697 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,200 Speaker 5: Plays like you need you, needed like you might go 2698 01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,120 Speaker 5: into a game with like one or two four in 2699 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,360 Speaker 5: one place for like a got to have a Dry but, 2700 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,960 Speaker 5: now If Mike rabel Says josh in the first, half 2701 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:06,840 Speaker 5: you know it's fourth and, one we're going for. 2702 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,720 Speaker 2: It something we probably we're coming to the end. Today 2703 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,440 Speaker 2: but Something i've been meaning to meaning to bring. 2704 01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:15,839 Speaker 3: Up we need to Teach Drake may how to. Sneak 2705 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,680 Speaker 3: he's not a good sneaker. Yet, no you know he's 2706 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 3: not a good. Sneaker. 2707 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,600 Speaker 5: Good, no these are the things that you, know you 2708 01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,760 Speaker 5: wish that situation was a little bit. 2709 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,720 Speaker 3: Different reminded me of the fourth and. One it's just With, 2710 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:29,040 Speaker 3: brady he's got to be a better. 2711 01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,200 Speaker 5: Sneaker teach him how to play in the, cold teach 2712 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,360 Speaker 5: him how to put how to, sneak like these little 2713 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,320 Speaker 5: things that if he wasn't a part owner of The. 2714 01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 3: Raiders all, right, listen we gotta. Go we got a 2715 01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:40,400 Speaker 3: lot to. 2716 01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,800 Speaker 2: Do we'll be back tomorrow with Our thursday, edition no, 2717 01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,360 Speaker 2: picks so we don't have to. Hurry you, know we'll 2718 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:51,200 Speaker 2: think of something good to. Do we'll do the autopilot yet. 2719 01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,560 Speaker 6: Question, pilot the autopilot. 2720 01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,920 Speaker 3: Question we'll find a good one for all, right we'll 2721 01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:59,320 Speaker 3: see it. 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