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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything. So don't don't don't. It's the end

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Speaker 1: of the election, as we note it, and Cody shaved

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Speaker 1: his beard. It's the that's that's how we're starting the

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Speaker 1: episode today. Some hard truths, hard truth up top. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people who watch your show will understand why you've shaved

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Speaker 1: your beard. They will, hope, hopefully they forgive me. Katie.

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Speaker 1: Are you as unsettled by clean shaven Cody as i am?

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Speaker 1: I think that I'm more familiar with clean shaven Cody. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it is always jarring, but I adj Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I've dispatched some of my death squads from El Salvador

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Speaker 1: to deal with already, but I consider to be a problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've had him on a or trigger for

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Speaker 1: a while now, so cut you've been warned. Are they

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Speaker 1: going to be able to recognize him without his hair?

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be entirely honest, once they, I mean

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Speaker 1: they just kind of start firing. They're not a very

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Speaker 1: precise death squad. But you know what they say about

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Speaker 1: death squads, if you don't use them, you lose them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's squad that squads don't need to be precise. They

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Speaker 1: don't need to be precise. They just if they're about death,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter who,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, why, it doesn't matter where death squads. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the election. Excellent, you know what, that's a

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Speaker 1: solid transition, thank you. Yeah, so ums everybody feeling about

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Speaker 1: the potential of a civil war unnerved, I'm anxious. I'm anxious.

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Speaker 1: I'm anxious about a lot of things, and that's one

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Speaker 1: unnerved is pretty accurate. I'm also up theistic weirdly because

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Speaker 1: the election, I just have to be. I am also

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Speaker 1: optimistic about the election. I'm not optimistic about the potential

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Speaker 1: fallout of the election. Whatever that may be. Well, right,

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Speaker 1: the results, no matter what they are, will not be

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Speaker 1: taken well by some people. Yeah, I'm not sure who necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but no matter what happens, a lot of heavily armed

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Speaker 1: some of those heavily armed people don't even care about

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Speaker 1: the election. They just care about the opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: angry and armed. Yep. That's the real X factor to me. Here. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: like obviously the elephant in the room is that, like

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Speaker 1: I've been shouting about this for I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: four ish years now. Um, And I guess I should

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Speaker 1: start by pointing out two things, one of which is

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Speaker 1: that the last like week, there's been a fucking avalanche

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Speaker 1: of we're heading towards the civil war articles. And I'm

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Speaker 1: oddly enough cautiously optimistic, more so than I was this summer,

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Speaker 1: when if you can recall, I was falling apart, uh

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Speaker 1: and certain that we're all going to be murdered in

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Speaker 1: like I just my brain has just been shattered by

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Speaker 1: exposure to anxiety, and so I've I've tended towards unreasonable optimism. Um.

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Speaker 1: The reason because one of the articles that came out

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Speaker 1: It's it's because, yeah, that he he interviewed me during

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Speaker 1: actually do still stand by what I'm saying. Is what

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Speaker 1: that there are a lot of the preconditions you would

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Speaker 1: guy named David Kilcolin. He used to be the head

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Speaker 1: strategist for the U. S. State Department. He was one

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Speaker 1: of the architects of the surge in Iraq. Um. He

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Speaker 1: an orderly fashion, when I wrote an article on what

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Speaker 1: a civil war would look like in the US in

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Speaker 1: the modern day in a UM, I reached out to

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Speaker 1: And there's a number of good reasons why, including the

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Speaker 1: like that level of unrest um and thirty officers get

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Speaker 1: oh wait what yep, yeah, it's not trending on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: so they're not giving that ship oxygen. And I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: more with political differences murdering each other with fucking weapons.

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Speaker 1: possibility to step back from the ledge, be prepared. As

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Speaker 1: Scar would say, exactly, Um, follow scars advice. I just

428
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: realized they had all the little hyaenas being Nazis, didn't

429
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: he Yeah, I would argue that the lions were Nazis.

430
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: And the Hyenas were the heroic guerrilla insurgents. But we digress,

431
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: much like our friends the muja Hadeen's Sorry, what a

432
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: lot of victims in the Kingdom of Offasa um during

433
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: that time. But yeah, but I think it's uh, it

434
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: could be fine because most people, most people don't want

435
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: a civil war. Yeah right, yeah, right, I mean I

436
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: could take it or leave it. You know, I don't

437
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: have strong feelings I do. You do own that very

438
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: nice technical katie that you've been You've been waiting for

439
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: a chance to use. Um, it's a new gun girl

440
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: in town. Yeah. The bet that I made with it

441
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: could happen here was that the vast majority of people

442
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: didn't want a fucking civil war. Um. And so if

443
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: you could get larger numbers of people to believe, like, hey,

444
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: this is a real problem that we might have, then

445
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: folks would pull back from the brink once they saw

446
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: where they were headed. Um. And again, like, the reason

447
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I did that is because like this, like this much

448
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: more experienced war journalist notes in the medium article I

449
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: cover civil wars in the State of America right now

450
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: makes me anxious. Um, that's the title of the article.

451
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Like he notes, I went to like Ukraine, and the

452
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: thing people kept saying is like I had no idea

453
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: this was coming, Like it took us completely by fucking surprise. Yeah, yeah, right,

454
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And that seems to be a through line

455
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: of like I didn't know this was gonna Oh, it's

456
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: actually happening. I think that talk humans. Yeah, well humans,

457
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: just there's something in a sort of like it's not

458
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: going to happen, because maybe maybe it's a coping mechanism

459
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: of bearing through all the possibilities of the world of

460
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: being able to just say no, shut that out. But

461
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: we have to, we have to be prepared for it. Yeah,

462
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: And that's and that's how you really shout it out

463
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: is being aware of it, being prepared, but like being

464
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: aware that it's a possibility and that we generally don't

465
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: want it to happen. Um. And it's been I mean,

466
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: we've talked about it for years and years. More and

467
00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: more people are saying I think I think that's generally good.

468
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: Aside from a few actors I can think of who

469
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: um talk about it in a way that seems like

470
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: they would like it to happen. Yeah, And when we

471
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: talk about things that make me optimistic more so than

472
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I was earlier. This year, you know, the threat that

473
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: had a lot of basically every single person who's competent

474
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: in in the field of extremism research was warning about.

475
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: What has been warning about for a while but finally

476
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: got listened to this year is accelerationism. Right, that term

477
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: has gone mainstream, UM. And accelerationists are, for those of

478
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: you who are just tuning in, people who want to

479
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: accelerate the breakdown of society in this country. And they

480
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: can be left or right or not easily categorizeable as either.

481
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: There's a variety of reasons. A lot of hardcore Nazis

482
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: or accelerationists because they think that a collapse of the

483
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: country will allow them to usher in, you know, a

484
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: racial state. UM. But accelerationists are like like Adam Woffin,

485
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: like the base, these groups who try to and like

486
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: a lot of the Boogaloo boys, um, who try to

487
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: bring a out violence in order to cause a civil

488
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: war and collapse the country. And one thing that's been

489
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: good about this year is that a funckload of those

490
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: people have gotten arrested and caught attempting to carry out attacks. Now,

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00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: the thing that worries me, like, obviously we we had

492
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Speaker 1: the FBI catched that um, that boogaloo boy, who was

493
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: a small part of burning the Third Precinct down, a

494
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: small part. I want to know that was a mass action,

495
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: But who who was the guy who like shot into

496
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the precinct with any and had had been at other

497
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: protests around the country and had been in communication with

498
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Courio, who was the the the Air Force military

499
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: guy who killed like two or three cops and scrawled

500
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: like the word boogaloo and blood on the hood of

501
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: his car. And they were actively attempting to cause the

502
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: civil war with a number with a cell of other

503
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: boogaloo type actors around the country. And they got busted

504
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: and their op seck was fucking terrible, Like they were

505
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: like texting each other like gonna go commit federal felonies

506
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: now l O L I shot some cop like it was.

507
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: And so the good thing about that is that a

508
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are very dumb and they've been

509
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: caught as a result of it, and it's scared the others.

510
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: The bad thing is that there's a decent chance there's

511
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: someone really smart out there with the same goal someone

512
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: like Tim McVeigh, Right, that's always the nightmare. Tim McVeigh

513
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: was exceptionally competent at what he did, and like that's

514
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the fucking the horror, right, is that someone there's someone

515
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: who is too smart to have been caught that the

516
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: FBI won't get you know. Yeah, it's the same thing

517
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: with when we talk about Trump and Trump is um

518
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and stuff, where it's like, well, he's an idiot and

519
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: he's incompetent. Um. There are candidates out there who won't

520
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: be that stupid and incompetent, and there are people out

521
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: there who want these kinds of things that yeah, could

522
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: be just really really um not you know, filming themselves

523
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: in a pt cruiser practicing kidnapping a governor. M hm

524
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And it's so that that is one reason

525
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: I would say that I'm a bit more optimistic. Another

526
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: reason that i've I've I've gained some optimism recently, um,

527
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: is that I think the right. And again, you can

528
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: make fun of me if I wind up being wrong,

529
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: but I'll probably be dead, so the jokes on you.

530
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: I think the right, um moved the far right right,

531
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: not not to say that like most people on the right,

532
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: are are up for this ship. But like the the

533
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: the insurgent right move jumped early this year, UM, and

534
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: their their security was bad that I did. I had

535
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: a Belling Cat article, you know, a month or so

536
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: ago about some of the stuff we were seeing, and

537
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: they got exposed for some of their their their planning,

538
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: and they got in trouble, a number of them got arrested. UM,

539
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: and I think they may have jumped the gun in

540
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: a way that has reduced the odds that they will

541
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: move in a cohesive way to take violent action. Now.

542
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: I would be very surprised if Biden wins. I'd be

543
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: very surprised if there are not a lead one and

544
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: probably several terrorist attacks around the country right as as

545
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: a result of that, inspired by the at least attempted

546
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: attacks that I would be surprised if it didn't happen,

547
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: and not necessarily like the day after the election, but

548
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: like within the next you know year. I suspect we'll

549
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: see several UM. But that's different from concerted armed action

550
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: to overthrow the government to stop a transition of power.

551
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm less worried about that right now, although obviously we

552
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: still have a lot of questions about the Trump administration

553
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: potentially stealing the election, you know, not just voter suppression,

554
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: but like faithless elector's yeah anyway, yeah, and like what

555
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: happens if it's close and ends up going to the

556
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Things like that make me nervous. Um, that'll

557
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: leads like both sides protesting each other, Like yeah, that's

558
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: where that's where like the conflicts come together. To me,

559
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: that's the real thing. But right now, I'm feeling positive

560
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: about the election and that the results will be such

561
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: that some of this stuff doesn't happen. Um that it's

562
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: more clear, But I mean, Trump just seems on the

563
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: back foot right now. And I say this again, knock

564
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: on wood, fuck me if I'm wrong, And I'm cursing

565
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: our whole country right now with these words that I'm uttering.

566
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Because the truth is is that right now we're seeing

567
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: massive amounts of people early voting, but everyone ever, I

568
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people anyway, are mentioning a potential

569
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: red wave that comes on actual in person voting. That's

570
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: what people are warning of. And we'll see, we'll see

571
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: what happens on election day. But I don't know, I

572
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, nobody does know, you know, I'll be

573
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: surprised if that was. If that's what happens. UM, just

574
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: there there's a I UM, I don't buy the thing

575
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: that like a bunch of Trump supporters are all lying.

576
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: There's not hard evidence to state that, and it it

577
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: comes very close to, you know, the ship that fucking UM.

578
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Nixon always said about the silent majority and ship UM,

579
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: and there's just there's never been evidence to suggest that

580
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: UM voter suppression or somebody fucking with the electors. Like absolutely,

581
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: I could see, Yeah, there's legal factory that can happen UM,

582
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: and obviously voter suppression UM and ways in which they

583
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: cannot count certain votes, Uh come in like that, long

584
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: long lines, if there is like a huge way people

585
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: might not be able to vote. I'm I'm mostly pointed

586
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: to that as right now it feels like those assholes

587
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: are losing and that's encouraging, and I believe that is

588
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: what will happen. I want to you know, I have to,

589
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: I have to be but let's not underestimate the fact

590
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: that people will show up in person that if it

591
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: does become close, if there's weird UM, you know, yes,

592
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: electorate ship that happens. We we just don't know. And

593
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: there definitely will be more votes for Donald Trump happening

594
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: on election day, Oh yeah, for sure. And uh and

595
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: just like you know, let's say, uh we there is

596
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: hope for this country and uh yeah, let's say that

597
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: there is. Let's say there is and the country overwhelmingly

598
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: rejects Donald Trump this time around. Think about Trump is

599
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: in particular, is not like they're sore winners. I can't

600
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: imagine what they're going to be doing when they lose. Yeah,

601
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: the time from when the results are announced and if

602
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: he loses in the time he still has so much

603
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: power is pretty scary. Yeah that right. You have you

604
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: have a couple of months, um between him allegedly leaving

605
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: or not. Yeah. Um, And it's his home, Cody. Why

606
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: should he have to leave his home? That's fair? Doesn't

607
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: he want to go back his thing year old Golden Tower? Uh? Yeah,

608
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he has been making more sentiments

609
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: statements lately that have been instead of like the election

610
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: will be legitimate, like I guess I'll have to leave

611
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: the country if I lose, and so embarrassing, which who

612
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: knows what he means by literally anything he says. But

613
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's also he's adjusted to be it to

614
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: be like if I win, not when I win. Yeah,

615
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: there is some uncertainty and the way he talks about it, well, yeah,

616
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: and you have to think he got pushed back from

617
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: the military this year, which is why you know, there's

618
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: already been reporting that he promises to kick you know,

619
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: the his his current the people who have pushed back

620
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: against him, the military and like Ray and the FBI

621
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: out as soon as he if he wins the second term,

622
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: who consolidate power. Like yeah, but you do have to

623
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: think that there's word from the military that like, I

624
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: don't know, like if he got pushed back on deploying

625
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: troops to crush protests, you would hope it's been made

626
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: clear to him that like if Biden wins a very

627
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: clear and undeniable victory, like you're going to leave um

628
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: because that's our only potential job in the military. Now

629
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: he does have like one of the things that concerns me,

630
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: like where we will do I will promise you all

631
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: now so you can hold us to it after the

632
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: election if Biden wins and we're not you know, uh,

633
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: like things don't go off the fucking deep end even

634
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: more than they already have. UM, we'll do an episode

635
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: on the things that will be worse under Biden than

636
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: we're under Trump, and like the things that will be better,

637
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: and try to break that all down to you as

638
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: best as we can. UM. One of the things that

639
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: will still be a problem is that what we've seen

640
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Speaker 1: during this unrest this year is the increasing federalization of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. It started in Portland. I expect we'll see

642
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: it in Pennsylvania soon as a result of the protests

643
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, where because like in Philly, or in Philly,

644
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: like in Portland, you have a very progressive d a

645
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: district at who's agreed to drop a lot of charges

646
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: against protesters that he considers to be like excessive or

647
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: not very valid. And what we had happened in Portland

648
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: is the FED step in. Officers get deputized, FED start

649
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: charging people who had their state charges dropped with the

650
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: same charges. You will see stuff like that happening, because

651
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: the federalization of local law enforcement is a thing that

652
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: has to be confronted directly and turned back in order

653
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: to stop it. Um, Biden will happily let it continue.

654
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: Look at Standing Rock, you know, like the Obama administration,

655
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: look at Ferguson. The Obama administration had no problem using

656
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: like unbelievable military militarized police force against protesters. Um, there's

657
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: no way Biden would want to give up that that

658
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: card unless he's forced to give it up. That said,

659
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: I think he could be forced to give it whereas

660
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: can chime in. I think that there's much more leverage there.

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00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah under that administration. Yeah, so yeah, do you know

662
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: what we'll do? Then have to take a quick break. Oh,

663
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: thank you guys. Let's take a quick I'll have time

664
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: to get into Quimby. I haven't checked Quimby in several weeks,

665
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see the new Quibbies everything. We

666
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: are back, and I have some terrible news about Quimby.

667
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: It appears someone has deleted the app from my phone.

668
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Speaker 1: How will I ever catch up on fine Quimby shows? Like? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Daniel here, just um just include you know, uh, just

670
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Speaker 1: just cut me vamping here out and include a list

671
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: of the great Quimby shows. Once you figure out what

672
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: those are, I'm sure there will be many. Okay, oh

673
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: that was you did the list. You did the list

674
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: of all all of the great Quimby shows. Heart goes

675
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: out to anyone who lost their jobs at Quick, which

676
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: was a bad company, have existed. I mean, I I

677
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: sincerely mean that because it's sucks when people loser jobs,

678
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: but like, yes, I also sincerely mean like if you're

679
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Speaker 1: like a working person, like there are a lot of

680
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: talented people working on it, but like if you're not,

681
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: if you're not Catzenberg, I'm sorry. Sorry that mag Witman

682
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: is being vetted, not being vetted, is apparently on a

683
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: been thrown around as a Melani cabinet what cabinet position? Again,

684
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Katie not specific heard that. God, you know, if there's

685
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Speaker 1: anyone who's fit to be the Secretary of State, it's

686
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: the person who led Quimby to such incredible heights of

687
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: success as the show. Yeah, I told my friends my

688
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: my girl text group, they were making fun of Quimby,

689
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: and I said that, and my friend sort of defended.

690
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: She's like, well, she's done other stuff too, And I

691
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: was like, I don't care. I don't care what others

692
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Speaker 1: up she's done. She thought Quimby was a good idea. Yeah,

693
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: if you thought Quimby was a good idea, perhaps you

694
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: ought to reevaluate how you would think about the world

695
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: because you were drastically wrong, and it's not the coronavirus.

696
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: Quimby would be in the same position it is now.

697
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: If the virus hadn't, it should be thriving online streaming media.

698
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: People are stuck at home with nothing to do, and

699
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: that's why Quimby failed. Okay, Uh, you know what else

700
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Speaker 1: is a quick biteum, the odds of death squads in

701
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Speaker 1: your neighborhood, that that one fell apart in the last

702
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Speaker 1: in the last leg there, I'm sorry, bite out of crime.

703
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's talk about that though. Let's talk

704
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: about more of this more, okay, Cody, Well, so I

705
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring up a little bit about, um,

706
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: the potentiality of the stealing of the election. Yeah, let's

707
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: talk about that. It's a possibility. And I have more

708
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: and more articles, more and more articles are saying this

709
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: um and talking about the two thousand election and how

710
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Speaker 1: that went. Um. Well, right, that's very when we got

711
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: eight years of President Gore. That's why climate change isn't

712
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: probably was not. God dammit, if only he hadn't just

713
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: rolled over and died if I mean, I mean, I

714
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Speaker 1: don't know, man, just just I'm just thinking about climate

715
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: change of how we all should have listened to al Gore. Yeah, yeah,

716
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean he was wrong about specific things. She's a

717
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: big climate change, but he was right about Oh, we

718
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: should have started doing something then about it. Maybe look

719
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: into it a little bit, learn on the job. He

720
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: would have wanted to learn on the job. Anyway, he

721
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: should have been slightly less boring. Yeah, what if he

722
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: had a skateboard? Oh, I just invented Beto. You jumped

723
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: a couple of decades to to our good, our good

724
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: buddy Betto. Uh to it is, I don't know allis

725
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: but interesting thing so aside from Bush's legal team during

726
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: that whole debacle. Uh, one of the people who helped

727
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: pick that legal team Ted Cruz. Yeah. It's also one

728
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: of the people responsible was Roger Stone, who just got pardoned. Yeah.

729
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: So so there's a lot of it's interesting how just

730
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: everything is. Um just it feels like a cycle of

731
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: just like a repetition. It's just over and over and

732
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: over again, and here all the all the greats are

733
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: coming back, all the all the all star characters. Three

734
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: of the people on that legal team that gave Bush

735
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Speaker 1: that election and said that recounting the votes was violation

736
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: of his rights. Three of those people are currently on

737
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Um, Kavanaugh and Roberts and Barrett. Um,

738
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: we're all on that legal team. Um And yeah, wow right,

739
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: almost purposeful. Almost like that was pretty purposeful. Ha Um,

740
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: she was on that legal team. She really practiced law

741
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: for like a year before becoming a professor. Yeah, it's wild.

742
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: They're all blatant frauds. Um. It's it's all on purpose,

743
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: and it's all just upsetting and points to what they're doing,

744
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: what their plan is. Um. They rushed this appointment through

745
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: um in thirty days, uh, eight days before the actual

746
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: election day because they know where this is headed, or

747
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: at least they know where it might be headed. Yeah,

748
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: eight days, eight days, eight days. And then they rule

749
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: old yesterday was it Wisconsin? That is, they are not

750
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Speaker 1: extending the deadline for mail in ballots again eight days

751
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: before the election. It is for the election. Yeah, So

752
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: it seems like they're heading towards a situation where they're

753
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: going to decide that if you're mail in ballot, um,

754
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: even though it was postmarked before election day or on

755
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: an election day, if they didn't receive it by election day,

756
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: then it doesn't count they will not count that vote. Um.

757
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: They're really pushing for not counting any votes after election day.

758
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: I just want to interrupt right now and say, if

759
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Speaker 1: you haven't sent in your ballot, don't mail it. Go

760
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: find a dropping go do a dropbox. Do not mail

761
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: your ballot at this point. Um. Yeah. And so that

762
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: is a lot of the signals like that being made

763
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: by our beautiful president and his crack team of lawyer's.

764
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: I guess maybe a better word, Uh, it's so bland rapists,

765
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: thieves and rapists. Also a side note, um, George W.

766
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Bush's two thousand election legal team, again who included three

767
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: of the current Supreme Court justices unbelieved, argued um during

768
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: that election in uh in uh two thousands that ballots

769
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: arriving late and without and without postmarks, which were thought

770
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: to benefit Bush, must be counted in Florida. They're all

771
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: frauds and liars. They do not care. They just do

772
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: not care. Um, and they're gonna do it. They're just

773
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 1: gonna They're just gonna do exactly that. Yeah. They will

774
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: steal everything from you and leave you choking to death

775
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: in an uninhabitable world to make their own lives modestly

776
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: more comfortable. Um yeah, they need more. They need an

777
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: extra chair in their bunker. Um put there to put

778
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: their feet up, not to have somebody else sit in it,

779
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: but to put their own feet up. Yeah. Um. And

780
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: that I mean that goes back to the kind of

781
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: what we were talking about earlier of this. Uh you know,

782
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: you have all this intense uh inequal wealth, inequality, and um,

783
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: all this anxiety. And they know, they know, all these

784
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: people know, and they've been hoarding for years because they

785
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: know they know where it's headed. That's why they were

786
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: building all their bunkers to hide from the thing that

787
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: they know is possible. And it's just disgusting and obvious.

788
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: And who knows what will happen. I you know, maybe

789
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: Texas will turn blue actually this year and it won't

790
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: be an issue because their scenarios where they can't contest it.

791
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: McConnell's hand exactly turn yellow like his face and his

792
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: upper lips. Something is wrong with that man. This is

793
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: like my grandpa was. His hands looked similar when he

794
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: was near the end. You know. It's it's a thing

795
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: that happens when you take blood. Yeah, he's old, he's well,

796
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't he's got to make fun of serious conditions.

797
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: But I hope that Mitch McConnell is not capable of

798
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: doing anything very soon. UM. I will not make fun of,

799
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, people who are on blood thinners because the

800
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: things happened. Yeah, but I do hope bad things happened

801
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: to Mitch McConnell because he's trash actively toxic. Things happened

802
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: to human bodies all the time, a lot of different things,

803
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: and no shame on that. But McDonald McConnell, he did

804
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: this thing at the last hour, push this woman through UH,

805
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: and the funk that guy. Um, but who knows. UM.

806
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, if it's an overwhelming victory, this won't be

807
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: an issue. Hopefully, maybe they'll still try some some facory.

808
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: But another thing I wanted to just briefly talk about,

809
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: UM is some things that happened after that UH fiasco

810
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: or during the fiasco, basically during the recount UM. Specifically

811
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: UH something referred to as the Brooks Brothers Riot Yeah, UM,

812
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: which was a fake riot organized by a bunch of

813
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: rat fucking Republicans including Roger stone Stone Again all the

814
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: all the classic characters are coming back for for a

815
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: for a sequel. UM. It was a complete fraud. They

816
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: did it for publicity is a pr thing. They claim

817
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't violent. Uh, it was a little violent. Um,

818
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't like what we would describe as violent these

819
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: days probably in terms of protests. UM, because America has

820
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: I guess upgraded their violence. I'm proud of us for one.

821
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, Brooke Brother Brooks Brother riot was coordinated effort

822
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: by um, the GOP to sort of make what happened happen,

823
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: and it partly worked. Roger Stone was involved, and I

824
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: don't see why he wouldn't try to do something similar

825
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: this time around. And Roger Stone uh is uh, I

826
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: don't know these days, UM, but communicates with the crowd

827
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: boys he's he sure does. UM. And the idea of

828
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: because it was like Brooks Brothers ride was a bunch

829
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: of guys in suits basically just like, no, we don't

830
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: don't do the thing that you should do because the democracy.

831
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: But if it happens again again, America upgraded their violent

832
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: protests and if it gets to this place where it's uncertain,

833
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: Roger Stone and it's I don't know, I'm just uh,

834
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: that's worrisome to me that they'll do similar tactics, similar tactics, uh, legally,

835
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: but also with the protest stuff. Um, but amped up. Uh,

836
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: We're we're all hopped up on goofballs, you know. Um

837
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: and uh, riding pandemic anxiety and just twenty years of

838
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: America continuing and getting us to this point doing those

839
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: same tactics but on steroids is something that is a possibility. Um,

840
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: and I have no hopeful thought to end this on.

841
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: You know what a hopeful note to end this on

842
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: is if you're taking gunfire right, if someone is shooting

843
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: at you. It's very important to know the difference between

844
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: cover and concealment. For example, hiding behind a car might

845
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: seem like a good idea, but handgun rounds will pierce

846
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: most parts of a car with lethal force to hit

847
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: someone behind them, and rifle rounds will pierce basically everything

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Speaker 1: but an engine block. Hardcover is more things like large trees.

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Speaker 1: For example, getting behind a large tree can provide a

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Speaker 1: lot of cover getting behind if there happened to be

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Speaker 1: sandbags or a concrete barricade. You know, that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: That's what cover is. Now. Concealment is something that will

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Speaker 1: not stop bullets, or not reliably stop bullets, but will

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Speaker 1: conceal you. And obviously being concealed as preferable to being

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Speaker 1: in the open, being behind hardcover is the best of all.

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Speaker 1: So whatever happens next week, keep all that in mind.

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Speaker 1: Great positive advice. What yeah, to end on? But we

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Speaker 1: are hopeful? Yeah, back and forth, seven days, seven days,

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Speaker 1: seven days. Like that lady in that horrible Japanese horror

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Speaker 1: movie said, yep, the Ring, the Ring, But America, good times.

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Speaker 1: We started at the bottom and now we're here. We

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Speaker 1: started with the genocide, and boy, howdy that might be

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Speaker 1: how it ends. I'm feeling anxious. Yeah, it's great, that's

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Speaker 1: how I am hopeful. But yeah, young people are voting

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Speaker 1: early in droves in in key states, in key states. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you want to place a tourniquet above a bleeding

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Speaker 1: wound from gunshow trapneler knife and then tighten the tourniquet

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Speaker 1: and then you twist the windlass in order to stop

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Speaker 1: the bleeding. Um. If you don't have a tourniquet, a

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Speaker 1: belt can work in most situations. Exactly that. That British

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Speaker 1: heart throb Harry Styles told everyone to vote with kindness

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Speaker 1: and endorsed Joe Biden. That should move the needle into

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Speaker 1: England has a whole Hairy Style section exactly. Yeah, they've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for that endorsement. Everyone's Trump just conceded based

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Speaker 1: on the Harry Styles endorsements. There we go. I guess

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Speaker 1: we can drop this episode. Oh man, what a relief. Guys.

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Speaker 1: You can check us out online at Worst Year Pond

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter and you'll find us there as

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Speaker 1: well for more hot takes like this. I guess, but guys,

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Speaker 1: we've done it. We didn't. If there's another kind of tape, cool,

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Speaker 1: hang in there, guys, check out. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: so we'll see you on the other side. Bye bye, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good luck, pod Speed America, everything, everything, So dat. I tried.

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