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Speaker 2: Oh is this coach just getting started? Well, that's coming

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Speaker 3: He's Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm Indy froman And by the way, tweet us your

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. And welcome everybody, and welcome my partner, my friend,

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Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Andy. What's going on? Well?

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Speaker 3: I tell you why. I got a big question for

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Speaker 3: everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever wipe with a piece of dry toilet

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Speaker 2: paper and wondered?

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Speaker 3: Is this as good as it gets? Really?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not switched to life changing wet extra large

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Speaker 2: flushable Dude wipes because weather just cleans better. Available Amazon

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try those. I'm gonna get to Amazon as

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Speaker 2: soon as the show is over today. All right, we

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Speaker 2: move on to something else. I wonder if the NFL,

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Speaker 2: the players in their locker rooms will be locked up

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Speaker 2: now with dude wipes beginning next year, the official I

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Speaker 2: guess piece of dry toilet paper of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be the next thing. You'll see it, promise.

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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe I didn't know where you were going

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Speaker 5: with this initially when you started the show talking about

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Speaker 5: getting wipes and wipes and those things. So it kind

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Speaker 5: of have you heard Yes, Yes, because a bunch of

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Speaker 5: the high schoolers around me they use them when they're

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Speaker 5: making changes and stuff like that, kind of body wiping down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I know we do wipe.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, huh.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll be getting myself up here now.

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Speaker 2: The question of the day, at least in my mind

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Speaker 2: answer it for me.

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Speaker 3: I know, the hiring of a college football coach.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to know what makes a good

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Speaker 2: coach because there's several factors. I think maybe age, experience,

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Speaker 2: prior success, the school that he coached that did he

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Speaker 2: have a winning program? Because I'm looking all I think

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Speaker 2: of Kurt Signetti at Indiana University. What makes him head

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Speaker 3: I want to know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if like in terms of head and shoulders,

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Speaker 5: I would say what Kirk Signetti does is has an

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Speaker 5: unbelievable confidence in himself in this process and in his process.

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Speaker 4: And what he believes to be true our own school staples.

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Speaker 5: They don't turn the ball over, they don't beat themselves,

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Speaker 5: But they're simplicity by design because it allows their players

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm watched that game Monday night. They beat up

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Speaker 2: then I said to myself, do you realize I don't

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Speaker 3: Last year they were a flesh in the pan. Then

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Speaker 2: I don't think people realized that that Old Dominion was

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Speaker 5: And what you saw was the team that consistently got

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Speaker 4: With Miami, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a great game, and I felt like Miami

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Speaker 5: But in the end, when it came down to make

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Now, one of the categories I threw out there, well, well,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, the oldest first time championship winning coach in

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Speaker 2: the Title Game era. He beat Miami, as we know,

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Speaker 2: on Monday night. He This guy started at Division two

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Speaker 2: and say, well, I mean, come on, he's like a

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Speaker 3: He did it on the cheap.

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Speaker 2: He won't tell you how much they spent on nil money,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, regardless of what it is, here's what

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Speaker 4: In those things.

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Speaker 5: think there's certainly an advantage to having an experienced team.

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Speaker 5: And it doesn't mean that they're twenty five to twenty

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Speaker 5: And look, experience begets expertise, and when you have those

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Speaker 5: best thing that we can say about Indiana is they

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Speaker 4: They're not coming there for what Indiana can do for them.

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Speaker 5: They're coming there for what they can do for Indiana,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I would think his first year, maybe somewhat in the

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Speaker 2: the possibility of saying thanks, but no thanks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: people are going to be knocking on their door and say,

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Speaker 2: I want to play for you. Because he's already replaced

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, the Heisman quarterback, with TCUs quarterback Josh Hoover.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if Hoover contacted him or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The deal was.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Indiana looked at him, but Hoover said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind playing for a team that won the

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Speaker 2: national championship. So this guy's twenty seven and two and

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Speaker 2: two years And I ask you, because you coached you, scout,

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Speaker 2: you know everything about the game of football.

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Speaker 3: You played in the NFL. Is it his good eye

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Speaker 2: Does he have an exceptional eye for talent or is

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Speaker 3: Is it coaching skill?

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Speaker 2: I look at him and I live in the Cincinnati region,

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Speaker 2: and Duke Tobin's getting a lot of heat as the

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Speaker 2: he can't pick a player.

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Speaker 3: No, And they say, well, we've had some picks.

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Speaker 2: Look, I could have picked Joe Borrow. There's the first

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking about players in the second, third, fourth,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetty does well.

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Speaker 5: I would say some of it is you have to

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Speaker 4: And it is.

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Speaker 5: Clear to me that Kurt signetic because he's been doing

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Speaker 4: And when you have. They kind of know how.

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Speaker 5: It allows you to understand clearly which kind of players

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Speaker 4: And that's what they've been able to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now we got past the background and the

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Speaker 2: Now I want to tell about age because he was

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Speaker 2: sixty four. Are we're going to see a trend now

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Speaker 2: in college football for older coaches? Because I looked up

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's good, better and different,

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Speaker 2: but maybe you know it's a copycat league. You know,

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Speaker 2: everything in sports somewhat as copycat.

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Speaker 3: That's what they do.

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Speaker 2: If they say, well, Indiana was successful with a guy

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Speaker 2: was sixty four, Let's try a guy who has been

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I look at the Steelers. Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what his claim to fame

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Speaker 3: That's why the Steelers maybe hired him. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think for Mike McCarthy, he won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: I think if you look at his record, his record

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Speaker 5: he is successful. They also have some previous experience with

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy, not the Stealers, but Omar Con, Andy Whitehel

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Speaker 5: They were all together in New Orleans when Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 5: terms of relationships. And I know Rogers connection well maybe,

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Speaker 5: But no, I think it's I think what we're getting to,

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Speaker 4: They should have an opportunity to play.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, And now I'm hearing people talk. I'm

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Speaker 3: Authority over the program. I mean, the athletic threator.

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Speaker 2: May be his boss, but believe me, Kurt Signetty's more

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Digress isn't always greener, that's for sure. But oh, you

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Speaker 2: know you're gonna have a comment on this. Duke University

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Speaker 2: they're suing their quarterback Darien Menemnia to prevent it from

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Speaker 2: and this grounds for the little Shelle table is breach

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Speaker 2: There's an opening obviously in Miami right now with Beccone.

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Speaker 3: So Duke's could assume him. This is ugly, this has

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Speaker 4: I mean it is crazy.

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Speaker 5: But let's fully bake out what he got from the

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Speaker 4: What led him to change his mind.

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Speaker 5: He not only got a ten million dollar deal, but

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Speaker 4: She plays a sport.

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Speaker 5: I forgot what sports she plays, and there were some

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Speaker 5: other things that went along with it, like penthouse apartments and.

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Speaker 4: All of that. So we talked about four million, ten million.

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Speaker 4: To honor the terms of the contract.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting because of the play in court. Do we

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Speaker 4: Athletes and pro teams?

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Speaker 5: And the only way you can do that is to

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Speaker 5: They're professionals and this is a job. That is what

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy you mentioned the student athlete athletes student

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that in years? What made you?

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, it's embarrassing, don't you think? And

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Speaker 2: I mean, I saw the story just the other day.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna go down for his eighth year of eligibility.

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Speaker 2: when guys used to transfer, they used to have to

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Speaker 2: I don't know why and when this happened or how

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Speaker 3: It's three days. It makes the college situation.

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Speaker 5: Ugly, it does. But here's what you can't do. You

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Speaker 5: can't have restrict movement for players. If you don't restrict

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Speaker 5: and restrict the players. Now, what John Calipari is trying

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Speaker 4: You have to sit out.

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Speaker 5: But if you're not doing that for coaches, you can't

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Speaker 5: do that for players. Players should not be held to

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Speaker 5: want loyalty one sided. You want the players to be lawyer,

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Speaker 5: but the coaches are not held responsible for chasing bags

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Speaker 5: and moving around. It can't be both ways. You can't

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Speaker 5: you can't do anything, and then allow Lane Kiffen and

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Speaker 4: That is unfair. That's not a right system.

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Speaker 5: And that is why it's opened up because the course

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Speaker 5: And before that, Andy, they weren't paying them, you know,

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Speaker 5: they were just everything was all one sided. University coaches,

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Speaker 4: So now they threw money at them, and because.

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Speaker 5: They're afraid that if they go to court, court is

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Speaker 2: Okay, but my thing is that I think the coaches

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Speaker 2: any university, you're free to run. You could go to

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Speaker 2: another school. Really, I mean you could go from school

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Street professor?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So if I'm a regular student, I can transfer

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Speaker 4: I can go to Miami this year, transferre toside. I

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Speaker 5: Year because I want to pursue something that they offer

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Speaker 5: athletes to a different standard than what you're talking about

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Speaker 5: your university professors and coaches. It can't be that way.

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Speaker 5: It can't be oh, you can't go, but we can.

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Speaker 5: It's good for the goose, is good for the game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I don't know exactly the inner workings of this,

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Speaker 2: I don't hear anything about that. I don't hear about

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Speaker 3: I'll give you example.

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Speaker 2: A school like Marquette, a school like Xavier of Cincinnati

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean there is some truth to what you're

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Speaker 4: When it comes to TV and the allotments that they're

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Speaker 5: Presidents would say football is king and the basketball is

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this much.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing what Indiana did because obviously the NAL money

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what's even more amazing.

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Speaker 2: Oh stop, Oh that way, Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Indiana has the second largest alumni base of any university

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Speaker 4: The NIO package is under the.

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Speaker 5: Radar because Mark Cuban made significant contributions to Indiana along

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Speaker 5: the way. He didn't disclose those, but everyone around the

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Speaker 5: college football world knows.

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Speaker 4: That Indiana are now players.

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Speaker 5: Not players to the degree of Ohio State or whatever,

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Speaker 5: but they have money, and they have enough people pitching

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Speaker 5: in their nickels and dimes to make a pretty penny.

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Speaker 2: Well, that I understand, But I don't think they pitched

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Speaker 2: in when Cooks Signetti first got there because they so

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Speaker 2: same old Indiana, we can't win. Now they're going to

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Speaker 2: come out of the woodwork. Now they'll pitch in. But

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Speaker 2: I find even more amazing is Miami University of Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio is twenty and oh in basketball as

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Speaker 2: we speak. I don't think those kids are getting a

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Speaker 2: lot of money that I find them amazing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, they're not commanding to kind of cash

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Speaker 5: that they are a duke in North Carolina and Texas

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Speaker 5: and some of those other schools. But without I knew

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Speaker 5: they were undefeated because I remember they were nineteen to

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Speaker 5: nine and then they one over the weekend. I don't

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Speaker 5: know the composition of the team. Yeah, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 5: know the composition of their team, but take the money aside.

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Speaker 4: I am sure that they're winning with a bunch.

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Speaker 5: Of older players, a bunch of fourth and fifth year

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Speaker 5: seniors that are playing. And this has been the common

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Speaker 5: denominator in college basketball. The older team wins, with the

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Speaker 5: exception of Duke and then for Kentucky. While on the

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Speaker 5: color PARTI it is rare that teams with a bunch

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Speaker 5: of young guys are winning, and winning significantly when it

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Speaker 5: comes to the tournament. Teams are investing in the older guys,

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Speaker 5: whether they pluck them for mid majors and bring them

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Speaker 5: to power forwards, or they just find a way to

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Speaker 5: develop their own experience matters and more people are buying

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Speaker 5: into that experience.

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Speaker 3: I got you, I got your idea. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: very much. He's Bucky Broks.

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Speaker 2: Get him on X at Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman FSR.

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Speaker 2: stupid to figure that out, I'll help you eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Who got

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Speaker 2: to ask Bucket in this hour? Get some questions ready

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Speaker 2: if you want? And the blame game in our number two?

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Speaker 3: Now? How can this team really be confident today?

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Speaker 2: I know that's Santana, right, Tell me Mark, tell me

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Speaker 3: Right. You're correct, sir.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. A right, here we go. Hey,

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Speaker 2: your screen. All right, Today Championship Sunday, and we have

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Speaker 2: the Patriots Broncos today three pm Eastern time. And we

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Speaker 2: also have asked Bucky in about twelve minutes. But here's

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Speaker 2: a question for the Denver Broncos, a big question. Jared

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Speaker 2: Stinham gets to start for Denver after their quarterback bow

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Speaker 2: Nix fractioned his right ankle in the closing moments that

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Speaker 2: Denver thirty three thirty overtime win of a Buffalo in

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Speaker 2: the divisional round. Okay, this is a question because this

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Speaker 2: guy Stindent doesn't have a lot of game experience. You

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Speaker 2: have always told me that you gotta have the snaps.

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Speaker 2: You have to have the experience. This guy has played

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Speaker 2: in only twenty games since he was drafted by the

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Speaker 2: Patriots in the fourth round in twenty nineteen. All Right,

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Speaker 2: how is Denver going to adapt to Jared Stenham? Although

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Speaker 2: what you hear out of Denver, obviously you're going to

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Speaker 2: hear this, that confident, that excited, that full faith in him.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of it is how Sean Payton

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Speaker 5: approaches the situation.

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Speaker 4: I think when Sean Payton put out.

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Speaker 5: There repeatedly that they have a lot of confidence in Stitty,

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Speaker 5: that he's sending a message to his team that regardless

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Speaker 5: of who's playing quarterback, the standard and the expectation remains

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Speaker 5: the same.

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Speaker 4: He expects the defense.

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Speaker 5: To probably carry a little more of the load this game.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna put a little more pressure on the offensive

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Speaker 5: line and the running backs to be able to make

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Speaker 5: it go, and then they're going to try and get

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Speaker 5: everyone around the quarterback to play at a high level

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Speaker 5: while putting together a game plan that is loaded with

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Speaker 5: high completion percentage passes and a handful of plays that

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Speaker 5: played to his strengths as a playmaker. I'll say this,

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton spent a lot of time working under Bill

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Speaker 5: par Sales. Bill par Sales had a similar situation that

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Speaker 5: resulted in a Super Bowl win when Jeff Hosteler had

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Speaker 5: to step in for Phil Simms.

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Speaker 4: Hostedler led.

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Speaker 5: This team managed a game, They found a way to

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Speaker 5: knock off a couple of heavyweights and including the Buffalo

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Speaker 5: Bills to win the Super Bowl twenty to nineteen. So

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Speaker 5: this is something that Sean Payton might feel confident in

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Speaker 5: being able to get done based on the experience of

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Speaker 5: his mentor and in talking to his mentor about how

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Speaker 5: to put together this team where they can do it well.

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Speaker 2: The good news is this team probably was built on

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Speaker 2: defense more so than an offense. So I think that's

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Speaker 2: a good thing. So that's a plus for Denver. And

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Speaker 2: I think the other plus is the game is in Denver.

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Speaker 2: That's got to help as well. But I read this

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Speaker 2: the other day and this to me, maybe it's hype,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's true. Maybe they send it out now to

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Speaker 2: let the media know that, hey, we're ready to rock

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Speaker 2: and roll. Everything's to be good. But they say shortly

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Speaker 2: after Sean Payton was hired as the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos, In the twenty twenty three off season,

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Speaker 2: they signed three players during the initial hours of free agency.

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Speaker 3: Peyton went to build inside out.

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Speaker 2: He got offensive tackle Mike McGlinchey, he guart Ben Powers,

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Speaker 2: and the third player that was picked in that first

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Speaker 2: wave of a free agent's quarterback, Jared's Didham. So obviously

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Speaker 2: Peyton knew something. He saw something in him, and I

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Speaker 2: guess he realized the importance of a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think the fact that he handpicked him,

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Speaker 5: he's wanted the pick speaks volumes about his confidence in

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Speaker 5: Jerious Didham.

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Speaker 4: Jared Didham has shown flash. He was a fourth round

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Speaker 4: pick out of Baylor.

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Speaker 5: Spent some time with the Patriots, didn't necessarily get the

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Speaker 5: opportunity to take advantge of the opportunities that it had there,

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Speaker 5: makes his way to the Raiders. The first game with

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Speaker 5: the Raiders, he tows for over three hundred yards and

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Speaker 5: so he has shown own the potential to be able

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Speaker 5: to make things happen. With the Denver Broncos, he took

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Speaker 5: over down the stretch after they bench Russell Wilson. So

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Speaker 5: he understands the system and if you go and it

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter because it's preseason. But during the preseason when

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Speaker 5: he had a chance to run the offense, he completed

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Speaker 5: almost seventy nine percent of his passes had four touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: He understands how to.

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Speaker 5: Play within this scheme that Sean Payton has installed in Denver.

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Speaker 5: Now it's about can he manage his emotions, handle the

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Speaker 5: pressure of the moment and the pressure created from the

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Speaker 5: Patriots to be able.

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Speaker 4: To get it done.

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Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by how this he's going to play out.

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Speaker 5: But to me, there's a path for them to win.

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Speaker 5: They have to play defense at a high level, they

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Speaker 5: have to run the football, and somewhere in the game

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Speaker 5: they're gonna have to be able to get something out

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Speaker 5: of their special teams units that give them a cushion

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Speaker 5: or in every extra possession that's going to be needed

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Speaker 5: to win the game.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say this.

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Speaker 2: I think going into the game, even with bo Nicks,

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Speaker 2: I think I would have taken the Patriots, even though

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Speaker 2: the game is in Denver. Now, I certainly take the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I don't look at lines, I don't gamble, I don't

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Speaker 2: bet on these games, but in my mind, I think

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Speaker 2: the Patriots are a favorite, not a large favorite, but

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Speaker 2: at least four or five point favor in this game

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Speaker 2: over Denver, even though the game is in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Now, who do you like in this game?

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Speaker 4: And why?

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Speaker 5: Despite outlying all those things about the Broncos, there's so

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Speaker 5: many things they have to go right. I'm be honest

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Speaker 5: with you, man, I think the Patriots are a really

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Speaker 5: good team. Mike Groboley has done one of the best

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Speaker 5: coaching jobs I've seen in terms of taking over a situation, rebuilding,

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Speaker 5: repairing the confidence, infusing a bunch of veterans that understand

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Speaker 5: how to play and that have been thriving within their

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Speaker 5: roles to get it done. To me, this is about

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Speaker 5: them playing away where they just a conservative.

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Speaker 4: Don't lose the game.

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Speaker 5: Make the Broncos show you that they can score points

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Speaker 5: for Stidham. I just think the Patriots have too many things.

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Speaker 4: Going in their favor. They will represent the AFC the

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Speaker 4: AFC in Super Bowl Fit.

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Speaker 2: Well, we talk about the quarterback situation. I think the

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Speaker 2: world of Drake may has developed in the year number two.

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Speaker 2: But he has full both six times in two postseason games,

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Speaker 2: and he had a league high ten playoff sacks. So

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Speaker 2: Denver is gonna be chopping at the big going after

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Speaker 2: Drake made today. They're gonna go after him with everything they.

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Speaker 4: Got, oh one undred percent, and they should.

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Speaker 5: Now he's gotten away with some things now, being careless

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Speaker 5: with the football and all of that. He has to

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Speaker 5: figure out how to do those things like take care

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Speaker 5: of the ball, get the ball to the playmakers, be

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Speaker 5: aggressive but not reckless, all of those things that he

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Speaker 5: has shown the capacity to do throughout the regular season.

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Speaker 5: Now he just has to do it at a higher

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Speaker 5: level in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: And that Patriot defense, I mean, Mike Rabe, I mean

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Speaker 2: you say a team takes after his coach and whatever,

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Speaker 2: and you laugh about that, but it's true. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this guy, Mike Vrabel, I mean, he demands a lot,

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Speaker 2: and that team plays for him.

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Speaker 3: They really do.

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Speaker 2: Patriots have allowed an average like nine and a half

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Speaker 2: points a game and their wins over the Chargers and

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Speaker 2: the Texans, and they forced six turnovers and nine sacks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's Rabel. I mean it really is.

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Speaker 2: Now, you play for various coaches, and can you tell

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Speaker 2: me how your team that you played for or on

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Speaker 2: basically took after the maybe the personality of the coach.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking of Buffalo Bills because that guy that

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Speaker 2: you played for was such a mild manned guy, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. I mean he was a

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Speaker 2: college he was a college professor, Marveley College professor. So

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Speaker 2: how do you take after a guy like that who

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Speaker 2: basically I don't think raised his voice, probably never cussed.

663
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Speaker 5: Really, I mean, you take after him because he's the

664
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Speaker 5: consistent presence in your life as the leader of the team.

665
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: And as he goes, we go.

666
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: And what he does is what a good coach does,

667
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: is they implement those lessons every day.

668
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: They're consistent in their approach.

669
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: They're consistent in how they show up, meaning they don't

670
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 5: get too high or too low. When things are going

671
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 5: well or when things are going poorly, they remained the

672
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: same and they don't deviate a waiver from their core beliefs.

673
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 5: In building the team, you begin to respect those people

674
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 5: that are consistent in your presence, and that's why those

675
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 5: teams take on those characteristics. If a coach which is

676
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 5: highly emotional, highly volad on the sideline, you can best.

677
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: Believe it's team is going to be like that.

678
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: They emulate how you act as a leader, and that's

679
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: why as a leader, you have to understand that, and

680
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: you have to carry yourself a certain way at all times.

681
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: I look at Marv Levy and I kind of look

682
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: at Tony Dungee as similar. Am I correct on that

683
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: that two of the same successful coaches, but kind of

684
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Speaker 2: like low key?

685
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: I would say, maybe not low key. I would say

686
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: there's an intensity about them that burns. But outwardly they're

687
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 5: not out of control, Like you don't see them going

688
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 5: really nearly going crazy on the sideline. They have a

689
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: calm demeanor about themselves because they're ultimately confident in how

690
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 5: they go about doing their business. To me, when I

691
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 5: think about leib they both are similar in terms of

692
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: their demeanor, but maybe a little different in how they

693
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: approach the game and those things. But there's no doubt

694
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 5: that both were successful in their own right, and there

695
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 5: are a lot of lessons that young coaches or any

696
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: coaches can learn from how they approached it, how they

697
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: attacked the game, and how consistent they were in their

698
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: behaviors to get that consistency out of their team.

699
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: When I think of out of control, I have to

700
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: think of my late great friend Sam Wish that guy.

701
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: He may have been a master, money, may have been

702
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: an offensive genius with the sugar huddle and whatever it

703
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: may be.

704
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: But he was out of control.

705
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: And I remember there was a game you probably heard

706
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: of it when the Cleveland Browns played in Cincinnati and

707
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: the crowd was throwing snowballs, they cussing, going crazy. He

708
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: stopped the game, picked up a mic on the field,

709
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: he says, cut it out. If you see anybody doing that,

710
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: report him. Get him out of here. You don't live

711
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. They went nuts, the fans went crazy. That

712
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: was Sam Wis. I mean, he was wonderful. I loved

713
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: him to death. I really did.

714
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 3: He was nuts.

715
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn nutty. He is a bit of an

716
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: institution there. I think about the level of success that

717
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: he had. The offensive mind, but he's a little quirky,

718
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 5: a little quirky, out of his mind, and his team

719
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: took on some of those mannerisms, some of the quirks.

720
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: But he was a very, very successful head coach in.

721
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: This league, no doubt about that.

722
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: Now.

723
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to down the Denver Broncos because the

724
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, their opponent's average like one hundred and eighteen

725
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: rushing yards a game in the playoff games and the

726
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: games that they lost. Obviously, in the team's fifteen wins,

727
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: and when fifteen wins this year, and this includes the postseason,

728
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: their opponent's averaged ninety eight point eight rushing yards a game.

729
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: All right, that's pretty darn good. That's pretty darn good.

730
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: So I look at the game. I don't like picking

731
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: win is because I can't. I realized that, but I

732
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: almost did. In the Fox Contest, I finished second, so

733
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: that wasn't too big. With the college football, however, I

734
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: would say there's going to be a low scoring game.

735
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be wrong on that, but I think

736
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 2: it's a low scoring game, and I think that the

737
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: Patriots win, maybe on a field goal, both something like that.

738
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: Low scoring, It's gonna be a defensive battle.

739
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: Look, most of these games are going to be decided

740
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: about one score. That's just kind of how the league

741
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: has always operated. That's just what it is. There will

742
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: be a tough end. Look, it's gonna be tough I

743
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: think for the Patriots and the Broncos to be able

744
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: to move the ball up and down the field. Even

745
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: though we saw the Buffalo Bills go up and down

746
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: the field against the Broncos. In fact, we saw the

747
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills dominate the Broncos defense for most of the

748
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 5: game until Josh Allen's turnovers robbed him and cost him

749
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: the game. Yeah, look, this would be fun, it'd be fascinating.

750
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: The Patriots should win it. I expect them to move on,

751
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: but you never know. Any given Sunday, Right, and I'll

752
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: leave you with this. This is the big question of

753
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 5: the day.

754
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham has not thrown a pass in a regular

755
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: season game since the final game of the twenty twenty

756
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: three season. All right, so whatever that means. I don't

757
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: think it's a good thing. But again, the game is

758
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: in Denver, so we'll see what happens. He's Bucky Brooks,

759
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean de Furman. We're live from the Fox Sports

760
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: Radio studios, and of course you can call them the

761
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: answer man.

762
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: We call him Bucky. Ask Bucky. Fox Sports Radio has

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Speaker 3: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

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766
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: All right, asked Bucky. Coming right up about thirteen minutes,

767
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Speaker 2: not before the top of the hour. This is Fox

768
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Speaker 2: Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. We're live for the

769
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman

770
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, got to ask this, So have

771
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Speaker 2: you ever wipe with a piece of dry toilet paper?

772
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: And you wondered? Is this as good as it gets?

773
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's not switched to life changing wet extra large

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776
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Speaker 2: Is that right, Brandon?

777
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Speaker 3: Is that right? Dude Wipes?

778
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta love dude wipes.

779
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: You love your dude wipes. Okay, let's get it done.

780
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: It's time to ask Bucky.

781
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

782
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 7: Alrighty the first the first question I have is how

783
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 7: much of a drop off do you think there is

784
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 7: between Bonex and Jared's Didham considering the fact not just

785
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 7: talent aside, considering the fact that Jared's Didham hasn't started

786
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 7: a game and it seems like forever.

787
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: Look, I would say a significant drop off.

788
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: Obviously, both Nicks's first round pick Bo Knicks has played

789
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 5: at a level they'd be worthy of being that Pro

790
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 5: Bowl consideration.

791
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

792
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 5: With Stidham as an unknown, he's a backup quarterback. He's

793
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 5: a backup for a reason. We hope that he can

794
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 5: play at a high level. We don't know.

795
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 4: Bow Knicks has proven that he can play a high

796
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 4: level within this system.

797
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: All right, I got I got one, all right, bring

798
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: I got one here. It seems to me, Bucky Brooks,

799
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: there's a death of black NFL head coaches since the

800
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: retiment of Mike Tomlin. And you got remaining Aaron Glenn

801
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: with the Jets, DeMarco Ryans with the Texans, Todd Bowls

802
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. They remain. Now the league is sixty seven

803
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: percent black black players. Why in the hell will they

804
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: have more black head coaches. You talk about building culture

805
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: and relatability. I don't get it. Look, I understand the

806
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: percentage of players after they finished playing, they didn't want

807
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: to coach. They want to just go fishing. I get it,

808
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: But I don't understand why there's no more black coaches

809
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: in the National Football.

810
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: League systemic issue.

811
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: Most head coaches hired have come from the offensive side

812
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 5: of late. Most offensive coordinators overwhelmingly, I mean think they

813
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 5: all are white, with exception of now Eric b Enemy.

814
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 5: And so if we think about the pipeline in the pool.

815
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 5: Most of the coaches are coming from the offenside the ball,

816
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: and when you don't have black assistance in prominent positions,

817
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: you're not going to get black head coaches.

818
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: That's where it's stemming from right now.

819
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 5: Typically the black head coaches, the guys that you mentioned,

820
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 5: all come from defense, and in our ecosystem, most people

821
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: view defensive guys as Robert guys, not X's and O's

822
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 5: tacticians smart guys, and so that's kind of where we've

823
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 5: been cast and that's kind of where it's at right now.

824
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: You know what it's like.

825
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: It's like in the fifties and sixties, they didn't think

826
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: blacks are small enough to become quarterbacks.

827
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: Now they don't think they're small enough to become head coaches.

828
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: Right, well, it all goes back today.

829
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: If you talk about the Doctor, Harry Beovers talked about

830
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 5: positions of centrality, Blacks were excluded from those positions, which

831
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 5: were quarterback, center, mike, linebacker, free safety. And because coaches

832
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 5: come from those positions, if you don't play those positions,

833
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 5: you're not often given opportunities to later coach those positions.

834
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 7: Right all right, Brandon, you I have another one, Yeah,

835
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 7: with the increased number of quarterback injuries this season and

836
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 7: just injuries in general.

837
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: Why is there not.

838
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 7: More of a pushback on the proposed eighteen game schedule.

839
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 5: Because money ruis everything around us, and it's a big

840
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 5: money maker, and you're going to see more people continue

841
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 5: to turn a blind eye to that. So eighteen games

842
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: is gonna be a significant raise in the money for

843
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 5: the players, and so it's gonna happen regardless of what

844
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: we talk about health and safety and all that other stuff.

845
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: Got any more?

846
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 7: God, I want more Green Bay as offensive lineman Rashid

847
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 7: Walker was arrested Friday at New York Slaghardi Airport for

848
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 7: carrying a gun. Explain to me why anyone, especially a

849
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 7: visible athlete, would do something like that.

850
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: And correct me if I'm wrong.

851
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 7: I think Rashid Walker is a free agent, isn't he.

852
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: Not?

853
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: That I can't remember, I can't tell you his status,

854
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: But I will say this, sometimes with guys like packing

855
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 5: guns or guns being in their bag, they simply forget

856
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 5: about it, like they get careless, and they simply forget.

857
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: It's unacceptable.

858
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: You should have to know when you put a firearm away,

859
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: like what you're potentially carrying but sometimes guys get careless

860
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 5: and tend to forget.

861
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: Let me add to that.

862
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I hear what you're saying, and I could agree

863
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: to some extent. Yeah, I packed it in. I forgot.

864
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: First of all, why would you pack it in? What

865
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: you're traveling with a team? Does a coach carry a gun?

866
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

867
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 4: Well, you need no. But he wasn't traveling with a team.

868
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: He was traveling on personal business, right.

869
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So.

870
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Don't know who he is, right, I mean, if you're

871
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, maybe you want to carry a gun. Maybe

872
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. If you're highly visible Aaron Rodgers,

873
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know. Ninety nine percent of people in

874
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: America don't know who rash Sheiet Walker is in a lineup.

875
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: They don't know him. Why would you carry a gun?

876
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Did you ot to carry a gun?

877
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: No?

878
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 5: I'm not a gun total, but there are people that

879
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 5: believe in the Second Amendment, and there are people that

880
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Speaker 5: believe in carrying guns. So just because you're an athlete

881
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: doesn't preclude you from being able to adhere to the

882
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: Second Amendment. If that is you're right and you want

883
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 5: to do it. Like there are a bunch of people

884
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: run around the country who aren't quote unquote prominent celebrities,

885
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 5: but they're packing. They're packing pistols and openly carry I

886
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 5: mean that's where we are in this country. If it's

887
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 5: something that is something that you can legally do, then

888
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 5: athletes can participate in it.

889
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: No, you're right.

890
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: The nurse may arrest his soulda who's shot in Minneapolis yesterday.

891
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: He was carrying a gun and they claim that he

892
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: had it, but I don't think that was the story.

893
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: But it's another deal. But he was carrying a gun

894
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: and he was allowed to do that, all right. Last one,

895
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: I got one for you. Mike Tomlin a the biggest

896
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: surprise who lost their job?

897
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 5: Well, I think there are two different ones. Mike Mike

898
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 5: Tomlin willingly left, John Harbrough was fired.

899
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: I would say, I'm I would.

900
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 5: Say equally because both were really, really good in their

901
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 5: desired roles. I think the bigger surprise would probably be

902
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin finally walking away. I think John Harbor had

903
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: kind of been on the hot seat if they didn't

904
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 5: get in and because they lost, But Mike Tomlin was

905
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 5: probably the bigger surprise because they won his success.

906
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: Two Hall of Fame coaches, they get both both get

907
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame.

908
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: M I think Mike Tomlin gets into the Hall of

909
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: Fame before John Harbrough. Now it changes because John Harbor

910
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 5: will have an opportunity to kind of do some more

911
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 5: stuff in New York, bigger profile, bigger stage.

912
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 4: But right now, I'll say Mike Tomlin over Harbor.

913
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: There we go.

914
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: All right, He's Bucket Brooks and Andy froman And by

915
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 2: the way, the question is is defense their best ever?

916
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: That is so much more aware on Fox Football Sunday next,

917
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: all right, what job is the best? Well, that's right

918
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: around the corner.

919
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: Good morning.

920
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: We'll let you know all about that and so much more.

921
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's

922
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we're broadcasting live from

923
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And obviously before we get rolling,

924
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,040
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925
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926
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927
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928
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929
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931
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: that everybody likes. His name is Bucky Brooks.

932
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: Buck. How you doing. We're rolling today? How you doing?

933
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: I'm good man, We're rolling rolling bigs Football Senate.

934
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: Yes, we certainly are.

935
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Speaker 2: And I got a kind of a basketball question for you,

936
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: because yesterday kind of a milestone in Cincinnati, Saint John's

937
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: played Xavier. So Rick Patino's Saint John's Storm team came

938
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati played Xavier's Musketeers. So it is Rick Patino

939
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: coaching against his son, Richard Patino sat and Rick one.

940
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: It was his nine hundredth career win. And now all

941
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: of a talk, all the talk out there say he's

942
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: the best college coach ever. And I have a hard

943
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: time with that tremendous college coach. You know, he went

944
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: to NCAA tournaments and four different teams, But I don't

945
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: think he's the best ever.

946
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: I mean, what's your take on that.

947
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: If I were to name five coaches, he'd be in there,

948
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: perhaps with Bobby Knight coach k John Wooden, But I

949
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: don't think he's the best ever.

950
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: Wow, you didn't even mention Dean Smith. Wow, he's amazing. Yeah.

951
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: I mean he's in the conversation somewhere in the time too,

952
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: and I don't know about there, but I think nine

953
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 5: hundred wins, a torrendous accomptsment, multiple national titles, doing four

954
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: different schools in terms of getting to the tournament, all

955
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: those things are terrific. But I think you can't talk

956
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 5: about Rick Patino without talking about the scandals that have

957
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 5: kind of been around him, and that's just part of

958
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 5: the entire picture. You have to talk about those things

959
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: or whatever. But yeah, you can consider consider him as

960
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: one of the best to ever do it. But those

961
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 5: other guys have been free from scandal, so I think

962
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: they would have to go to the front of the line.

963
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm with you right there.

964
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: And I think there was one hundred and fifteen wins

965
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: taken away from him when he was at Louisville, so

966
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: he would have had over one thousand. So you're right

967
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: about that, right about the scandals. Okay, that's one thing.

968
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: The next thing is we talked about the Denver fans

969
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: probably a little upset, the little worry now where the

970
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Jared did him? Who has not throwing a pass the

971
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: regular season games since the final game of twenty twenty three.

972
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: But there's some hope there because there have been some

973
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: backups that have really really done the job for their teams.

974
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at back in nineteen ninety nine, Kurt Warner,

975
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Kurt Wonner took over. He ended up leaving one of

976
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: the greatest offenses in the league when Isaac Bruce was there.

977
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: I think Marshall Faulk was on that team too, So

978
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: he came back with the Rams, the Saint Louis Rams.

979
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: So that he did it.

980
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: So it can be done right, it can be done.

981
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Tom Brady did it in one

982
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: right when.

983
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, the only difference is that many guys have been

984
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 5: thrust in this situation where you're talking about in the

985
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 5: postseason doing it. Nick Foles did it, he had a

986
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: regular season game or two to kind of get acclimated

987
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: to the postseason push.

988
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: Jared Siddams is going.

989
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: To be asked to do it right from the jump

990
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: in the most intense game that he can play in.

991
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: He's gonna be asked to play and perform at a

992
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 5: high level. Those are the differences. They don't have a

993
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: chance to kind of build him up to get ready

994
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: for it. But he's a professional and at QB two

995
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 5: always needs to be ready. So was he how ready

996
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 5: can be a good thing for the Broncos. He got

997
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: a four week of work as the number one. It

998
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 5: wasn't like an in game situation where he hadn't practiced.

999
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: He didn't have an opportunity. He has had an.

1000
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 5: Opportunity to learn the game plan for them to build

1001
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: a game plan around him.

1002
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 4: So this would be the best that he has to offer.

1003
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: Well, Colin Kaepernick did it, and he didn't have much

1004
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: time either because he came in like in Game ten

1005
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: when Alex Smith got hurt in San Francisco. So I

1006
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: then when Smith was healthy, I think John Hobba or

1007
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Jim Habber was the coach. Jim Habber just stuck with Kaepernick.

1008
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: He stayed with him.

1009
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was high down to stretch.

1010
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 5: So that's the thing about like the regular season, you

1011
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to build around the strengths of the player.

1012
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 5: In this moment, Sean Payton is speculating what Jeros diidam

1013
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 5: strengths will be, but he won't know until he actually plays,

1014
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 5: and so there'll be some adjusting that he'll have to

1015
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 5: do in game, and then if they're lucky enough to advance,

1016
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: he'll have to continue to tweak and adjust the game

1017
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: plan as Jeredstidam shows what he can and what he

1018
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 5: can't do as a player.

1019
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: Okay, now we move to the second game, which is

1020
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: six thirty Eastern Time Division Championship. This game is on

1021
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: Fox Rams at Seahawks, and believe me, this is one

1022
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: thing that irks me.

1023
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: They play. This is going to be their third meeting.

1024
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: They played twice November sixteenth and La Rams win twenty

1025
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: one nineteen, December eighteenth and overtime at Seattle. Seattle wins

1026
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty seven.

1027
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: This game's in Seattle right away.

1028
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: If he happened before, if history repeats itself, Seattle's to

1029
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: win this game. And the key obviously Rams quarterback Matthew

1030
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: Stafford against that horrendous the tremendous, not horrendous, tremendous Seattle

1031
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: passed USh which you wrote about. You wrote about that

1032
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: at NFL dot com saying that this defense in Seattle

1033
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: is better than the Legion of Boom. Okay, the Legion

1034
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: of Boom, I remember that very well. And what do

1035
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: they call this one. Now they call this one dark side,

1036
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: dark side, Okay, the dark Well, why is this one better?

1037
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: And what makes it better?

1038
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: If it is.

1039
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: Better one, I'm gonna say this, and I'm not being disrespectful.

1040
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: They're more talented than the Legion of Boom. And when

1041
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 5: you look at the way this team is constructed from

1042
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 5: front of bad they don't have any glaring witnesses. They

1043
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 5: have dominant people up front on the interior Leonard Williams

1044
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 5: and Byron Murphy. You think about what they have at

1045
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: the second level. They have good players. Ernest Jones is

1046
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 5: a good player, Drake Thomas is a good player. But

1047
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: in the back end, they have interchangeable parts, guys that

1048
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 5: are versatile.

1049
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: Nick Emmon Worry can.

1050
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: Play hybrid linebacker safety. You have Devin Witherspoon who can

1051
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 5: play outside corner, inside corner. They can throw a lot

1052
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 5: of different things at you. And then their scheme is

1053
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 5: a little more diverse than what the Seahawks did back

1054
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 5: in the day with the lob that's it. You can't

1055
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 5: crown this team better than that team until they accomplished

1056
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: some of the things that that previous version accomplished.

1057
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 4: The LB went to two super Bowls, they won one.

1058
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 5: They had four straight years of winning this defensive scoring title.

1059
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: So while the dark side has been great this year,

1060
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 5: until they're able to sustain that level of success, I

1061
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: can say that they're better than the LB despite being

1062
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 5: a more talented team.

1063
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: Well, you answered my question because I want to know

1064
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: I who was personnel or coaching, And obviously you're leading

1065
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: towards the personnel side of it. But I love at personnel.

1066
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: And you look at their run defense right now, and

1067
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: I think that it's not the coaching as much. It's

1068
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 2: like the Ingrain. The Ingrain want them to be good.

1069
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's in your system. You

1070
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: want to be the best. And I see the way

1071
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: those guys tackle. Most of the guys in the National

1072
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: Football League of pushing guys.

1073
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: Around, they're grabbing them around the shoulder.

1074
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: These guys tackle the way tackling should be at the ankle.

1075
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: They're physical, they're tough, they want to be number one,

1076
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: and they're proud to be number one, and they play

1077
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: hard like that, and they'll be playing hard today, There's

1078
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. And Matthew Stafford better be on

1079
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: the lookout on the blind side.

1080
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, here's me on the lookout like. They're

1081
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: very physical and violent.

1082
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: They that's to their brand, that's who they are, that's

1083
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 5: who Mike McDonald wants them to be.

1084
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: And they've embraced that.

1085
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 5: They are simplistic in design on early downs, but they

1086
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 5: are very creative on third down.

1087
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: Their subpackages. They come at with you with a bunch

1088
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: of different things. I will say it's not only just

1089
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: a TWN.

1090
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: I will say the coaching and the tackles are terrific.

1091
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 5: Mike mcdonna's an excellent, outstanding defensive coordinator who throws.

1092
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: A lot at opponents.

1093
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 5: And you know you're talking about coaches and those things,

1094
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 5: and what is interesting if you notice in this cycle

1095
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 5: a lot of defensive coaches getting jobs, a lot of

1096
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: guys getting jobs from.

1097
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: Defense side of the ball.

1098
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: All we've heard about is offense, offense, offense, quarterback, offense, offense, offense.

1099
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: But when you're looking at what's happening, a lot of

1100
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 5: defensive guys getting the done, young defensive guy and Jesse

1101
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: mennering those things because I think people are having a

1102
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 5: greater appreciation for how a young defensive mind can build

1103
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 5: a team while also having a plan for the offense.

1104
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: It can be done. For so long, we heard all

1105
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: the people don't tell youv talk about.

1106
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 5: You got to get an offensive coordinator because it's the

1107
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: building around the quarterback, and that's not true.

1108
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: You need the best.

1109
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: Leader and you need someone that is an expert in

1110
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 5: whatever side of the ball they are, and we're seeing that.

1111
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: So I'm happy to see that.

1112
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: Even though you haven't seen many minorities get hiding, Robert

1113
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: solid would qualify though as a minority.

1114
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 3: Well, I would say this. I think that it's quite

1115
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: easy to see the results.

1116
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: You've got a team like Seattle and you've got a

1117
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: team like Denver that are thriving on their success really

1118
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: is based on defense, and they have quarterbacks. If the

1119
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are just not turning the ball over, they're going

1120
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: to win. They're not franchise quarterback. Sam donald'sranchise quarterback. You

1121
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: don't know what you're gonna get from week to week.

1122
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: And Boon Knicks he's all right, but he's not a

1123
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. I mean, Matthew Staffords, if he wins this

1124
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, he's got his ticket to the

1125
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

1126
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: He's a franchise quarterback.

1127
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: But these other teams that have been really, really good

1128
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: this year made it on defense with average quarterbacks that

1129
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: were functionable. They're functionable quarterbacks, not franchise quarterbacks.

1130
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean it's hard now.

1131
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 5: I think there's the thing, right, So there's a difference

1132
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 5: between franchise quarterback and elite quarterback. Franchise quarterback, we'll talk

1133
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 5: about an upper echelon. I would say maybe a fifteen.

1134
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 5: It's our fifteen quarterback, Like that's what we're talking about.

1135
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 5: We want middle roll or better. You can win with them,

1136
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: but you have to have the pieces around there the

1137
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 5: elite category. You're talking about five or six if we're

1138
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: being honest, And they're not many elite quarterbacks around the league.

1139
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: And everyone's not gonna find the an elite quarterback because

1140
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 5: college doesn't produce them at that level.

1141
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: So you have to build a team in.

1142
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 5: Anticipation of having more of a managerial quarterback than a

1143
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: game changer. And that's okay, but the best of the

1144
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: team has to be constructed correctly. And that is why

1145
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 5: when you hear things like the Pagoulas and the Buffalo

1146
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 5: Bills talk about, like Josh Allen, how Josh Allen's could

1147
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 5: be so heavily factored into the head coaching thing. I

1148
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: think that's a mistake because it's building a team.

1149
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: It's not building a good quarterback in the offense.

1150
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 5: It's the team and the leader has to be able

1151
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: to understand the ins and outs of what makes a

1152
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 5: good team. And I don't know that everyone that comes

1153
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 5: strictly from the offenseide the ball understands how to balance

1154
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: out the team.

1155
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: Well.

1156
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: The perfect example is the Cincinnati Bengals. Eighty five percent

1157
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: of that roster is built on offense. The coaching staff offense,

1158
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow basically is telling the front office at times

1159
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: that it's just signed T Higgins and Jamar Chase and

1160
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: you know it's offensive heavy, it really is. And you

1161
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 2: see what happened. They have made the playoffs in three years.

1162
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 5: No they haven't. They have made the playoffs in three years.

1163
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 5: And there's a softness about the team that you don't like.

1164
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 5: But some of that is what you get when you

1165
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 5: make those decisions strictly based on offense and the quarterback.

1166
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: You got to have the whole team in mind.

1167
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: And they blamed lou Ana Romo last year for he

1168
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: was a scapegoat. They blamed him for not making the playoffs.

1169
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: So he goes to Indianapolis, did fairly well, and he's

1170
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: being interviewed right now for various head coaching jobs, which

1171
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: is great because I remember when Louis was coaching high

1172
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: school football in Staten Island, New York.

1173
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: So it's a great story for him, and I hope

1174
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: he does get that.

1175
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny because I often wonder when

1176
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: I see all these head coaches getting fired, all right,

1177
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: what do you think Zach Taylor does? And he goes

1178
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: home and talks to his wife. He says, man, I

1179
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: better go to church someday. I'm kind of lucky. I'm really,

1180
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. In that division. I mean,

1181
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: he's the only remaining coach who has not been fired.

1182
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: It's amazing, it really is. And he didn't make the

1183
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: playoffs in three years, So is it luck? I mean, obviously,

1184
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: I think it's all contract because I gotta believe even

1185
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: if he doesn't make the playoff in twenty twenty six,

1186
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: he'll still be around for twenty twenty seven because his

1187
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: contract is through twenty twenty seven.

1188
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, the Mingos don't fire

1189
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 5: anybody like they're gonna they're gonna get all their money

1190
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: out of the person. So that's just what it is,

1191
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: and people have to be willing to accept that part

1192
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: of it. But I don't know, man, the league is

1193
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 5: in a weird spot only because of the patient the

1194
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 5: lack of patients for Sun in terms of what they

1195
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 5: want and everyone, every fan base believes their team should

1196
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 5: be able to compete at a super Bowl level.

1197
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: And that is true.

1198
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 5: That's a reasonable expectation, but it takes time, and then

1199
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 5: it takes consistently. And so when you have a team

1200
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 5: like Buffalo who fires a coach who had gone to

1201
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 5: a straight playoffs, six straight seasons with ten.

1202
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: Plus wins, Man, I just think you have to be careful.

1203
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: You just have to be careful being so obsessed with

1204
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 5: the one thing, which is a super Bowl as opposed

1205
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 5: to really understanding consistent success typically leads to championship hardware.

1206
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, here's the key for this game. I gotta

1207
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: believe and I kind of like the Seahawks a lot.

1208
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: In this game.

1209
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: When Matthew Stafford is clean, when he's kept clean, he's

1210
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: not sacked, he's completed his almost seventy one percent of

1211
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: his passes over four thousand yards this year, forty one touchdowns,

1212
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: eights and a passer rating almost one seventeen.

1213
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: All right, this is like per Pro Football Focus.

1214
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: Okay, and the Seahawks rank fourth in the NFL in

1215
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 2: pressure rate for the NFL's Next Gen Stats.

1216
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: This is officials, so I looked that up too.

1217
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: But it is notable that the Seahawks did not sack

1218
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford in either of their two regular season games,

1219
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: and the Rams have a three to one record in

1220
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: games where Matthew Stafford was not sacked. So that's the key.

1221
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Keep and clean and you'll win. Easier said than done,

1222
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: but that's the name of the game.

1223
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean I think that's a big part

1224
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 5: of it. If you can avoid the negative plays, that's huge.

1225
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 5: And for the Seattle Seahawks, they have to find a

1226
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: way to disrupt the rhythm of the Rams passing game,

1227
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 5: and they have to do it while also dealing with

1228
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 5: the run. But let's be clear, the last time these

1229
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 5: two's team played, the Rams had their weight with the

1230
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks. They're moving up and down the field.

1231
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: It took some iracular stuff to happen.

1232
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 5: It took a kickoff return and then it took a

1233
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 5: late drive to be able to get this.

1234
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying this.

1235
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 5: I would not be surprised to see the Rams going

1236
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: to row and knock around the Seattle Seahawks. Even though

1237
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: I love how the Seahawks get down.

1238
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: I'd like to see the Seahawks really well.

1239
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: Now, we talk about coaches, and we talked about obviously

1240
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: the defensive end of it, and defensive.

1241
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: Coaches getting head coaching jobs.

1242
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: There's a couple of openings right now, and we want

1243
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: to do this because you have the mind, you have

1244
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: the football mind. They were going to rank the head

1245
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: coaching vacancies and which are the four remaining jaws may

1246
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: be the most desirable. And we got these guys that

1247
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: have been fired, and the openings right now, I'll throw

1248
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: them with you. I think the number one job obviously

1249
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: is the Buffalo Bills. Okay, you got Josh Allen, who

1250
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: may think he's the best player in the league. I

1251
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: can't leave. Sean McDermott was fired. That's unbelievable. I mean,

1252
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: what do you got to do to keep a job.

1253
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: But maybe they want to change. I'm thinking maybe they

1254
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: just wanted to clean change because they're moving into the

1255
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: new stadium, right, Maybe that's the reason. But to me,

1256
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: outside of the quarterback, Buffalo has a couple of other

1257
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: things going for James Cook come a great season at

1258
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, let the NFL and rushing. So I

1259
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: think this is a pretty pretty attractive job for any coach.

1260
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: Would they go offensive or defensive coach for that? And

1261
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: I read recently that Philip Rivers there's going to be

1262
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: interview for that job. That to me blows me away.

1263
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why I say that. You know,

1264
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: in any other sport except the NFL, you would have

1265
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: to have some sort of experience as a coach to

1266
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: get a job, but not in the NFL. Philip Rivers

1267
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: is coaching like a Catholic high school somewhere in California,

1268
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: and now he's going to coach an NFL team. It

1269
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. It was almost like when Jerry

1270
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: Fouss was coaching Mola High School in Cincinnati. He was

1271
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: hired by Notre Dame and everybody went nuts, all right,

1272
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: and it didn't work out. I love Jerry thus, but

1273
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out. And I talked to Jerry

1274
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: about that, and I said, well, what was wrong? You know,

1275
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: he had a plus five hundred record. He says he

1276
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: didn't delegate. He didn't know how to delegate because in

1277
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: high school you got to do everything. You got to

1278
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: get to towels, you got to do this, you got

1279
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: to do that, you got to get the transportation, you

1280
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 2: got to do it all.

1281
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: And he didn't delegate it. Notre Dame. Where Notre Dame,

1282
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: they do it all for you.

1283
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1284
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 5: Look, so here's what I say about Philip Rivers. And

1285
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 5: I know there are people that are throwing their support

1286
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 5: behind them, and I love the prospect of former players

1287
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 5: getting opportunities in those things. And I can understand where

1288
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 5: Philip would have their chance because I was an advocate

1289
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 5: of Jeff's Saturday.

1290
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: Having an opportunity. That's it. I'm gonna say.

1291
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 5: It's a big job and it's hard, and there's nothing

1292
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 5: that can prepare you for it, you know when you

1293
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 5: step into that thing, and Buffalo being a win now situation, man,

1294
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: that's extremely difficult for Philip Rivers despite his experience and

1295
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: expertise as a high level quarterback.

1296
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: It'd be a tough job. Man. If he gets it.

1297
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 5: It's all about the people that he have that he

1298
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: has around him to allow him to grow into the role,

1299
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: into the position. But I know if he does get it,

1300
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: and it's gonna be a lot of people that are

1301
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 5: really don't have the knickers in a bunch because they

1302
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 5: feel like he jumped to the front of the line.

1303
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: Well, I think if he does get it, I think

1304
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of input from Josh Allen. Of course,

1305
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: they say Josh Allen's involved in the hiring. I don't

1306
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: think that's such a good idea, do you. I don't

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Speaker 2: think nothing.

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Speaker 4: That's a horror. I think that's a horrible idea.

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Speaker 5: I think you can ask their opinion on certain things,

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 5: but they cannot be hired because ultimately, here's what happens.

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Speaker 4: I need a leader. I don't need a friend.

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00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 5: I need someone that can hold everybody accountable. And you

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00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 5: can't treat seventeen differently.

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Speaker 4: Than you treat the rest of the guys.

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Speaker 5: Even though he's a quarterback in the franchise quarterback, you

1316
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 5: have to be able to hold him accountable. And if

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00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 5: he plays a heavy a big part of you getting hired, man,

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00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: can you coach him the same way or do you

1319
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 5: feel obligated to go easy on him because he did

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 5: so much for you to get you the position.

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Speaker 4: I just think it muddies the waters. You don't want

1322
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 4: to hire friends.

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Speaker 5: You want to make sure that a person is the

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Speaker 5: leader and he can hold everybody to the standard.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of the Buffalo but which I think it's

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: the number one job that's open right now that a

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00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: coach would want. But whoever is hired, they got to

1328
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: improve that horrid run defense. That's the name of the game.

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00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: They got about the offensive side of the ball. They

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Speaker 2: don't need Philip Rivers or anybody else for the offense.

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00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: They need a defensive mind to stop the running game

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00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: that's killing them. That's the problem. Offensively, they're fine.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they're foind on offense either. I

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00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 5: don't know how talented the Buffalo Bills are, Like I

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: feel like this was the weakers version of the Buffalo

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Speaker 5: Bills that we've seen in of the postseason. When I

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 5: look at them, they talk about three blue chair players

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00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 5: James Cook, Josh Allen, Dion Dawkins, and that's not gonna

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00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: be enough to win it. And you can talk about

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Speaker 5: the run defense being.

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Speaker 4: Horrible.

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00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 5: I would say they were number one in pass defense

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00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 5: and sometimes what people are doing.

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Speaker 4: And today they're willing to.

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Speaker 5: Concede rushing yards to take away big plays in the

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Speaker 5: passing game, meaning it takes a longer time for the

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Speaker 5: offense to drive the length of the field running the ball,

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Speaker 5: and most offensive coaches aren't patient enough or persistent enough

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Speaker 5: with the running game to stay with it. So maybe

1350
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 5: as we dig deeper into those numbers in those things,

1351
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 5: understanding the tactics behind why they're willing to conceive rushing

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 5: yards but they're really good against the pass. Passing yards

1353
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 5: lead to explosive plays. Explosive plays lead to points hard

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Speaker 5: to generate explosive plays on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll leave you with this.

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Speaker 2: I'm picking Seattle to win this game, shouldly because that

1357
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: place is ridiculous and I don't think that the Rams

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: will even be able to hit themselves talk. I've seen

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01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: a lot of off sides, and you know, you just can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't hit yourself. I mean, I don't understand how

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Speaker 2: that is. But you've been there, You've been on the

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Speaker 2: field and things like that. But is it that much

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Speaker 2: of a fact that when the crowd noise is nuts.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's loud, you can't you can't think.

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Speaker 5: And it's not nuts on the perimeter guys, it's nuts

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Speaker 5: on the interior lineman because you can't hear the signals,

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 5: you can't hear the adjustments, and you're laid off the count,

1368
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 5: meaning to snap count. So the offensive lineman, the left tackle,

1369
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 5: can't see when the ball is really snapped in. So

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Speaker 5: the edge rusher gets a step or two just by

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Speaker 5: being able to see it. So it's a huge advantage

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Speaker 5: for the home home team, and it's a big advantage

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01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 5: for the home team when they are on defense and

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Speaker 5: the opponent's on offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, he's Bucket Brooks and Andy Firman. We're broadcasting

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, which translates I'll

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Speaker 2: make it easy for you eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 2: game at the end of this hour. But you won't

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Speaker 2: believe who wants to be a head coach?

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Speaker 3: You really won't. We're gonna tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Now a little bit of closure on this Buffalo Bill's

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Speaker 2: coaching situation and the coaching searchers reported that Josh Allen

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: not only has some input, he's reportedly sitting in on

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Speaker 2: the interviews and we'll have a voice and who the

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Speaker 2: next coach is and obviously.

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Speaker 3: What's not gonna do.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna benefit Philip Rivers because they're buddies and he's

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01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: a quarterback.

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: Not good, not good at all.

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01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: No, I mean a few other people like I think

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 5: you got to keep an eye on Davis Web. Davis

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Speaker 5: Web is the quarterback coach office coordinator for Denver Broncos.

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01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 5: He's someone who's played up in Buffalo. He and Josh

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01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 5: Allen kind of have common links and so that's someone

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: that could be of interest in terms of paying attention.

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01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 5: Then you have Joe Brady, who is also in the build,

1428
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 5: Philip Rivers sitting in on the interviews, Philip Rivers being

1429
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 5: have the involved is a little different than most coaching searches.

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 5: But when the owner made an emotional decision to fire

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01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 5: Sean McDermott because of what he says to be a

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 5: down and despondent Josh Allen, you're gonna get some of those.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say that is right. I just don't

1434
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 5: think is right to involve him to that degree because

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01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 5: I think it puts them on a different plane than

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 5: the rest of the players. But that's something that the

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01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 5: new coach will have to do when he does the

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01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 5: team building process and they try and create the coach

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Speaker 5: in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: And I said it before, I'll say it again.

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Speaker 2: High schools in college will never hire a guy without

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: coaching experience, just just the way it is. Now, Why

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: is as Why would the NFL hire a coach without

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: any coaching experience.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't understand the logic.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, look, I'm gonna say this because I'm not

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 5: going to take away from what he did at the

1449
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 5: high school level. Because he's coached for a few years

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 5: at the high school level, I would say it's unusual

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 5: to go about this course of action. Now, people say

1452
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 5: he's played almost twenty years in the league, like he

1453
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 5: knows the league in those things, And that is a

1454
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 5: lot of truth to it, because I hate when former

1455
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 5: players are dismissed as potential coaching candidates or front office

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01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 5: candidates because they don't have experience, even though they've done

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Speaker 5: a lot in between the lines. Doesn't mean that they're

1458
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 5: not fully prepare for everything that the roles require. But

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 5: he has a unique perspective and if you're going to

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Speaker 5: do this with him, you have to set them up

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Speaker 5: for success, but making you have an experienced coaching staff

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Speaker 5: that can kind of teach him as he's growing into

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Speaker 5: the job. They can kind of coach him along the

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Speaker 5: way as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So speaking of experience, here's a guy with the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, Jesse Minter. Okay, and you're spot on with

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Speaker 2: that because he's a defensive guy. He's had a lot

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Speaker 2: of success at Michigan and with Harvard in LA with

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Speaker 2: the Charges. He's the new head coach of the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: He's a kid, forty two years of age. What problems

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Speaker 2: is he going to expect and accept? And again, no experience,

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Speaker 2: I mean to me that that's a isn't it getting

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Speaker 2: jesse Minter as a head coach.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's always risk like I mean, it's never

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01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 5: guaranteed that it's going to turn out successfully. But what

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Speaker 5: you're banking on is he has the right temperament, personality,

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Speaker 5: and experience to be able to do this at a

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Speaker 5: high level. Jesse Mentor is someone that they know because

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Speaker 5: he used to work in the building, so he definitely

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Speaker 5: understands the culture of the Baltimore Ravens went on to

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Speaker 5: be the defensive coordinator for Jim Harbaugh and Michigan helped

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Speaker 5: him win the national title his two years there, and

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01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 5: they did a great job turning around a charge his

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 5: defense the last couple of years. So this guy is

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Speaker 5: a great defensive mind. His dad, Rick Mentor, longtime coach.

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Speaker 5: Mentor understands it.

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Speaker 4: Knows what to do.

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Speaker 5: I am very bullish on the higher with jesse Mentor,

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Speaker 5: but I'm gonna say this is the first thing that

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Speaker 5: he has to do. He has to get Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 5: on the same page and he has to hold him accountable.

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Speaker 5: I believe Lamar Jackson entering the year nine this is

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Speaker 5: a critical year for him because as the athleticism begins

1494
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 5: to wane, we got to see his pocket presence, his

1495
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 5: pocket ability go up. Can he successfully make that transition,

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Speaker 5: because that will determine how long he can remain the

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Speaker 5: Ravens number one quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt that Jesse's got the football teams.

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Speaker 2: I remember when Rick was the head coach at the

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati good Man and I still keep in

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Speaker 2: touch with him. And this is a great story about

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Speaker 2: Jesse mint It because who knew, I guess in his

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: heart of hearts, that's basically what he wanted to do

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: coach one day, and maybe not in the NFL, but

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Speaker 2: Jesse Mintler played football at Cincinnati's Division III Mount Saint

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01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: Joseph University.

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Speaker 3: Who knew?

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Speaker 2: Who knew a kid from Mount Saint Joe and Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: would end up as an NFL coach. That to me

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Speaker 2: is one heck of a story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it is a great story.

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Speaker 5: And I would say the story this even better is

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 5: how good he's become as a defensive play caller. He

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 5: is terrific as a play caller. And some of this

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01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 5: is the Baltimore Ravens probably having a little regret that

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 5: they let Mike McDonald out the building because Mike McDonald's

1517
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Speaker 5: had a tremendous amount of success in two seasons in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: But Jesse mentioned knows the lay of the land. He's

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 5: able to take the good parts of what John Harbaugh

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Speaker 5: and others established within that culture and then add his

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 5: own flavor to it.

1522
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 4: And the key for Mentor is he has to be

1523
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 4: his own man.

1524
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 5: He can't be his dad, he can't be John Harbor.

1525
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 5: He has to be who he is. He has to

1526
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 5: be authentic when it comes to that. And then he

1527
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 5: has to put his stamp on this team, particularly on

1528
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 5: the defenseid of the ball, in terms of how they play,

1529
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 5: how they want to get down, what they want to

1530
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 5: do to maximize Lamar Jackson and that offense. So there's

1531
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 5: a lot of work to be done. But man, I

1532
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 5: think this is really solid higher for them.

1533
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: I think it's great. If I'm not mistaken. I think

1534
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: the first year the Harbor was in San Diego with

1535
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: the charges, I think Dad Rick was working with Harbor

1536
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: as well. Maybe not in a full time capacity, but

1537
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 2: I think he was on the staff doing something.

1538
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 3: I think Rick was there.

1539
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 5: I mean always want to help out, like there's nothing

1540
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 5: wrong with having your dad involved. Good move, and maybe

1541
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 5: the dad can kind of help him along the way

1542
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 5: navigate some of the pitfalls of being a head coach.

1543
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I was never a coach. I never will be

1544
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: a coach. I don't want to be a coach. But

1545
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I've been a fan and when

1546
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: I saw what happened in Buffalo this week, I loved it.

1547
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't go this far because I'm not a

1548
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: nuts but maybe some people think I am. But it

1549
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: was great because during nine years on the job, Sean

1550
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: McDermott led the Buffalo Bills to the playoffs eight times.

1551
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: I had two playoff appearances in the AFC Championship game,

1552
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: but he got the pink slip.

1553
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: He got a copy of the home game, which I

1554
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: think was wrong.

1555
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: But they had a petition this week in Buffalo, and

1556
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: the petition was change dot org.

1557
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 3: It was on change dot org. This is big. I mean,

1558
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 3: you don't normally.

1559
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: See that most of the people want to see the

1560
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: coach get fired. This is like the other side of

1561
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: the coin. And I love this really And here's what

1562
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 2: a fan. One fan said this on Themitt Dermot's leadership

1563
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,480
Speaker 2: and the Bills. I've experienced a remarkable transformation. He revitalized

1564
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: the team's performance and reunited the passion of the fans.

1565
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: This is what he wrote. Quote. Notably, he led the.

1566
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills to the playoffs multiple time after a lengthy drought,

1567
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 2: bringing a renewed sense of hope and excitement to a

1568
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: community that lives and brees football. His coaching style and

1569
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: strategic insight have been pivotal and shading a competitive, a

1570
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: spirited team that made us proud. So I gotta believe

1571
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott was the reason and the formation really of

1572
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: the Bill's Mafia. I don't think I heard of Bill's

1573
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: Mafia prior to Sean McDermott.

1574
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 4: I don't know that.

1575
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, and I want to give him all

1576
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 5: the credit for Bill's Mafia or whatever like that might

1577
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 5: be something to exist. I just know that they've always

1578
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 5: been a team that strongly supports their squad. But look

1579
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 5: he did in the drought. The drought was significant and

1580
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 5: he ended it, So give him credit for that. I

1581
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,480
Speaker 5: think he'll be appreciated after he's gone when people realize

1582
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 5: how tough it is to win at the highest level.

1583
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: No doubt, you know, when he was hot in twenty seventeen.

1584
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: The Bill's hadn't made the playoffs in seventeen years. That's amazing.

1585
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 2: And this guy's a tough coach. I like his style.

1586
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: He's a little bit he's like old school. He's an

1587
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 2: old school kind of guy.

1588
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 8: I like that.

1589
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: I think it's like Ben Johnson a little bit that

1590
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: kind of style, you know, tough, tough, but fair.

1591
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, look, I think, I mean maybe. I

1592
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 5: mean you never really know until you kind of are

1593
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 5: around it.

1594
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 4: And see it.

1595
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 5: So we're just we're just going to see all of

1596
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 5: it like play out the good, the bad, the ugly.

1597
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 5: I think we have a great appreciated, great, great opinion

1598
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 5: down the road.

1599
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: Even Terrell Owens spoke out. I think he was on

1600
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: social media. He thought that there was a bizarre move

1601
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,839
Speaker 2: that the Bill's fire McDermott. He says, I don't understand

1602
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: the rationale behind this firing, even hearing the owner's position,

1603
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: And I heard the owner the other day talking about it,

1604
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: and it just didn't make any sense.

1605
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 3: He said, they reached it.

1606
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't McDermott's fault that it dropped past

1607
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: a miss field goal. You know, really, Josh Allen was

1608
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: the guy who stunk up the joint and that loss.

1609
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 2: They had nothing to do with Sean McDermott. But I

1610
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: guess he takes the heat. You're the CEO, you know,

1611
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: in a business that goes bad, the stock goes down,

1612
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: who gets fired the CEO?

1613
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: He's the CEO or the organization. That's the way it goes.

1614
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 5: Who knows, Yeah, I mean, look, it is the way

1615
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 5: it goes, and it happens. But look, owners own the

1616
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 5: squad for a reason, and they have a chance to

1617
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 5: do whatever it is that they want to do. And

1618
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 5: those are the decisions that were made.

1619
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: Whether we are except in Cincinnati. Except in Cincinnati, you're

1620
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: hired for life. You can't get out.

1621
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, you can't get out because ownership is cheap.

1622
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: The way it is, I mean, I don't get it.

1623
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, and really and truly, if the fans, you know,

1624
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna stay away. I mean, the Bengals start the

1625
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: season on three, you'll be able to pick your seat

1626
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: in that stadium next year. That's the way it was

1627
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: and that's the way it will be. It really will be.

1628
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think fans should have some sort of

1629
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: a say. I mean, don't you think fans deserve an

1630
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: ownership group that wants to go out there and have

1631
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 2: a winning season and win. I mean, I think most

1632
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: owners and people who own ball clubs want to win.

1633
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: They don't know how to win the right way to win.

1634
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: I think that if you own the New Orleans Saints,

1635
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: you want to win. If you own the Arizona Coninells,

1636
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 2: you want to win. They're just not getting it right.

1637
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: You own the Bengals, you really want to win. I'd

1638
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: love to see Mike Brown get a championship super Bowl

1639
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: ring before he passes on. He's ninety years old. I'd

1640
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: love to see him get that.

1641
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: Really. But you know, I don't think they're committed to winning.

1642
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 3: That's the key.

1643
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, commitment and interests are a big thing. Now.

1644
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 5: You have to be all the way committed. And it's

1645
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 5: a mom and pop business. It's a family business and

1646
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 5: not run by a corporation.

1647
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: So what the Steelers, I say, the Steelers for mom

1648
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: and pop and they won.

1649
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have. And the Bengals had a chance to

1650
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 5: win it. They didn't get it done when they were

1651
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 5: right there. The super Bowl was different than the winner.

1652
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 5: They didn't they didn't win it. And it's unfortunate. And

1653
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 5: I think we can talk about Joe Burrow and his

1654
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 5: prime and are they wasting his prime years?

1655
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 4: Probably so, But I don't know.

1656
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: This is weird, I really And there's another job that's

1657
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 2: opening the National Football League, which I question. Look, I

1658
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: think anybody offered a job and the National Football League

1659
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: as a coach, you'd be a fool to turn it

1660
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: down because there's only thirty two jobs, and I think

1661
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 2: everybody wants to be a head coach. So that's that's

1662
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: the reason right there. Because someone's gonna say, oh, I

1663
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: don't want that job. I don't want the Raiders' job. Well,

1664
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, I'd rather go to a team that has

1665
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: not been successful and try to turn it around. And

1666
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: there's two good reasons at least on the on the

1667
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: LA and the Las Vegas Raiders that you can win.

1668
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers and Ariston Genty, I think they got a

1669
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: shot and maybe Max Crosby. Maybe these are guys that

1670
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: can help you go to the next level if they

1671
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: bring the right guy in.

1672
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: That's the key.

1673
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, the right Getting the right guy is always

1674
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 5: the key because with the right guy comes to the

1675
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 5: right culture. So it's about finding the right person to

1676
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 5: implement that and make it happen.

1677
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: But I think that Raider's job might be the second

1678
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: best opening right there, right behind Buffalo.

1679
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of potential there rounds.

1680
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, I don't know.

1681
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 5: They've turned over coaches and arming rate with the Raiders.

1682
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 5: You just have to be careful to make sure you're

1683
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 5: going in. There's no such thing, as some would say,

1684
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 5: there's no such thing as a bad job. You have

1685
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 5: to know what the risk and the pitfalls are going

1686
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 5: in so you navigate around it. Because it's only they're

1687
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: only thirty two of them, So there's no such thing

1688
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 5: as a bad when you have to know how to

1689
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 5: leverage it and make it happen.

1690
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: Well, Yo, Guyan Jacksonville, he turned it around. I mean

1691
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: he did one heck of a job, right, I mean,

1692
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: he did a wonderful job. I really did. And it's

1693
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 2: a shamed the way it went out. But next year

1694
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: and that you know, Lawrence came around and came into

1695
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 2: his own finally. He's had so many different coordinators for

1696
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: several years, so I think right now he's settled in.

1697
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: They'll be they'll be the team to reckon with next year.

1698
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: They really will, but we'll see. We've got time now.

1699
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman and new you are

1700
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio.

1701
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 3: Let it all out, Let it rip, Why the blame Game?

1702
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,680
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1703
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,679
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1704
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,120
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1705
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,080
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1706
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: All right, the blame game right around the corner. It's

1707
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: about maybe eleven minutes before the top of the hour.

1708
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 2: That would be eight a m. On the East Coast,

1709
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: and you'll have the wonderful golden tones of Greg Cosel

1710
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 2: and the Swollen Dome himself, Mike Harmon right here on

1711
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and Many Furman. This

1712
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: is Fox Football Sunday. We're broadcasting live from the Fox

1713
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Now, before we get into the blame game,

1714
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: we want to thank Anthony Albert. Anthony Albert says that

1715
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia was coined on Twitter by fan del Reed

1716
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: in twenty ten in response to Adam Schefter's report on

1717
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: a loss to the Steelers. He would hash ted Bill's

1718
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: mafia and guess what it caught on. So, Anthony, thank

1719
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: you for listening to more than that, thank you for

1720
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 2: responding and give us that information.

1721
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: Right now, it's time for the blame game. You ruin me.

1722
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault.

1723
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 3: What is all your Maybe it's everyone's.

1724
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: Fault, the liar. That's why there's the blame game.

1725
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: Let's figure out who to blame. All right, my game.

1726
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna blame you, Brandon. It's on you, baby, let's go.

1727
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1728
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 4: Who do you blame?

1729
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 7: The Buffalo Bills came close again but fell to Denver

1730
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 7: thirty three to thirty. Last week, the owner blame Sean McDermott.

1731
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 7: Then the Keon Coleman debacle press conference happened with the

1732
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 7: owner and Brandon Bean the GM Who do you blame

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01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 7: for the loss?

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Speaker 3: Let's go with Bucky first.

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01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 4: Oh look, man, I blame it in the entire team.

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: But really, Josh Allen didn't play great.

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Speaker 5: I think if you look at the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, James,

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01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 5: two of their best players turned the ball over. Josh

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 5: Allen turned it over four times. You just can't win

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01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 5: in the playoffs when your guys turn it over, so

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01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 5: in the postseason, when your stars are supposed to carry

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01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 5: over the threshold, I blame the Buffalo bill Stars, namely

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's easy to say josh a because he certainly

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: didn't play well. If he played like Josh Allen, nor

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01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: when he plays, they probably would have won. I'm blaming

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: this clown Pegula, who owns the team, all right, because

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01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: if he's that stupid enough to fire Sean McDermott on

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01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: something McDermott didn't do, then I'm blaming him because obviously

1750
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: there's no a game of football. He owns the hockey

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: team too. She's probably screwing that thing up as well.

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01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: So you know what, I hate to say this to

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: the fans because I enjoy fans. I'm a fan myself,

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: But really, and truly really, Pegoula, go away. Don't get

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: involved with the football operation at all. Hire the people,

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: let them do what they gotta do. It's on you. You're

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01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: the problem.

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01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that whole press conference was ridiculous. What about the Texans?

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01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 7: They got eliminated by the Patriots. Drake May, like you

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01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 7: guys mentioned earlier, didn't play that well for the Patriots,

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 7: but CJ. Stroud played worse. I'm sure that's the direction

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 7: both of you will probably go in. But is there

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01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 7: anybody else to blame besides CJ. Stroud in the Texans life.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: He was He was terrible, terrible that game. It was embarrassing.

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01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: I bet he never looked at that tape again after

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: that game.

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 3: It was bad. He's the goat.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind it was him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I would say that c J.

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Speaker 5: Strow didn't play well and his turnovers really crushed him.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna talk about c J. Stro We talked

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01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 5: about star on the offense coordinator.

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01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: Because I felt like the offensive coordinator couldn't lighten the

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 4: load on him.

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 5: There's no way he should have passed as much as

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01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 5: he passed with a quarterback struggling. So we can talk

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01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 5: about Straw, but I'm gonna blame the offensive coordinator as well.

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01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 7: All right, let's look at the NFL coaches that are

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01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 7: now fired. Why have so many been fired? And who

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01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 7: do you blame for this?

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 5: Bucky impatient owners and fan bases, unrealistic expectations.

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01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 4: In terms of how hard it is.

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01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 5: We heard in the blurb in terms of the number

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Speaker 5: of great coaches, Kyle Shanahan, who has not won a

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, Jim Harbaugh having won Super Bowl. It's hard

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01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 5: to win Super Bowl, so we wouldn't make it a

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01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. A bus situation, it's just hard to live

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 5: up to those expectations.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Normally, I was say fan pressure, fan and media pressure,

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: but that's not the case with Buffalo because they got

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01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: that petition going on in Buffalo right now with Sean McDermott.

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 2: Fifty thousand people signed that thing. So I think it's

1795
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: the owners. The owners have to they want their finger,

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01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: Like like Jerry Jones goes into the locker room after

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: the game, Are you kidding me? What the hell is

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01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: he doing down there? Get out of there. You don't

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01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: belong there. Stay up in the owner's box.

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Speaker 3: That's what you belong. Owners are too involved. Get out

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 3: of there.

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Speaker 7: Drake may was not the first team PF BWA. I

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01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 7: think it's how you say it.

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01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: Well football, yeah, association.

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, the acronym. I was like, wait, which one is

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01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,839
Speaker 7: the F for the B first? But who do you blame?

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01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 7: He probably should win the MVP. It's unlikely he does

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01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 7: because Stafford was first team here, Bucky.

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I just think it's a sentimental vote for

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01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford. He's been terrific and I'm okay with getting him.

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Speaker 5: I just think the sentiment is that it's time for

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Speaker 5: him to get it.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm a great with you right now

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01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: because I think these writers right now, it's a sympathy

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01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: vote for a thirty seven year old who's injured at

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01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: someone's back, his finger. That's basically it. It really is,

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01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: and really, Drake made should have got it. But we

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Speaker 2: want to thank everybody here and stay tuned because